I'm 33. Woo.
So far, I've received cat puke and the death of net neutrality. Somebody please give me some good news.
~Neshomeh
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Happy birthday to me! by
on 2018-06-11 13:48:00 UTC
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Present: a bottomless journal and matching bottomless pen. by
on 2018-06-17 23:05:00 UTC
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No need to explain why that's great. ;) Happy birthday.
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HereÂ’s my present: a Black Cloak of Swirly Awesomeness! (nm) by
on 2018-06-13 17:07:00 UTC
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Thanks, everyone! (nm) by
on 2018-06-13 04:05:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2018-06-12 19:32:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2018-06-12 17:07:00 UTC
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Happy belated birthday! by
on 2018-06-12 13:02:00 UTC
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I know it's not a fire lizard, but this little smasher is Draco volans, a species of gliding lizard from Southeast Asia.
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Now see, that looks like a space gecko. ^. ~ (nm) by
on 2018-06-13 04:09:00 UTC
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Happy late birthday! by
on 2018-06-12 07:52:00 UTC
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Because you don't just require cheers on the big day itself. Have a black-hole chocolate cake, with optional red berries coating.
Also, quick question: In the interest of keeping the Pern flavor here, how would you like some shooter where you dispatch Threads, except there's... that bill written all over them? -
If I can use a flamethrower, yes. by
on 2018-06-13 04:12:00 UTC
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Also, I will have the red berry coating on my cake, thanks!
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Pern continuum, and Threads. by
on 2018-06-13 23:02:00 UTC
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Think of it as exercise on the problem 'How many different weaponscan we create on the theme of setting things on fire'?
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2018-06-12 05:10:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday (nm) by
on 2018-06-12 03:47:00 UTC
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Happy orbit anniversary! by
on 2018-06-12 01:46:00 UTC
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I hope you'll have a good day, and some good food.
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I did! Sushi is best birthday food. (nm) by
on 2018-06-13 04:13:00 UTC
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Happy birthday by
on 2018-06-12 01:06:00 UTC
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Iloilo, the fabled "brown-out capital of the Philippines," has finally gotten 24-hour electricity thanks to new solar farms.
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Ooh, that is good. Yay for them! (nm) by
on 2018-06-13 04:06:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! *blows noisemaker* (nm) by
on 2018-06-11 23:25:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2018-06-11 20:25:00 UTC
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Thanks! *optional!hugs* (nm) by
on 2018-06-11 22:55:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! *tosses Spikes* by
on 2018-06-11 19:12:00 UTC
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And if it's any compensation, the FCC would probably have to get past over half the states to have its way and they've still gotta defend their new rules in court. So it's not the end of the world and even though we do have a way to go before the 2015 rulings can be reinstated, I guess it's better than nothing.
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That's true. by
on 2018-06-11 22:55:00 UTC
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The Internet's not going to burn down overnight, and if companies do start taking advantage of people and hurting small business, there'll be that much more fuel for the fire, I guess.
Hugs? If they come without Spikes in them? {= )
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I used up my daily Spikes quota, so yes. xD by
on 2018-06-11 23:13:00 UTC
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And while I'm at it, have a Night Fury plushie! I'm sure we could all use something to hug in times as troubled as this one. ^^;
(Also, sorry I haven't been able to get us started on our co-write. I've been so busy with so many other things and it may take a while longer for me to get them squared away. I'll see if I can send a starting document once I'm able though and we can start from there, mmmmmmaybe later this week if my schedule permits...?) -
Zomg, too many dorbs. by
on 2018-06-11 23:26:00 UTC
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A fire-lizard and a Toothless plush now? Too many dorbs, can't handle. *ded*
Okay, better now!
Funny story: I was poking through my GDrive the other day, went "what the heck is this?", and opened up the copy of the fic we were gonna spork. And remembered that was a thing. ^_^;
"The Lost Blade," it is. Apparently I started making comments on it, but only got through the first few chapters. If you wanna go add your own, I find it helps for figuring out the direction of the story, picking what jokes to include, and deciding where to stop. It's shared with you, but I'll send the link again, since it's been so long. I don't really know how long.
And whenever is fine. I've got other stuff going on and I'm not going anywhere, so no rush.
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Hap birf! by
on 2018-06-11 17:01:00 UTC
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I'd offer you klah, but it looks like Thoth got there first. Have a plush fire-lizard instead!
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Yay! by
on 2018-06-11 22:49:00 UTC
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*snuggles plushie* Is best plushie.
... I'm hugging everyone else, so hugs?
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*hugs back* (nm) by
on 2018-06-12 02:42:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! by
on 2018-06-11 16:37:00 UTC
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Take a steaming mug of klah. It certainly can't hurt.
I can't give you anything substantive for your birthday. But I can at least say thank you. If it weren't for you, I wouldn't have Permission, wouldn't be busy procrastinating from writing by playing Skyrim (I'd just be playing Skyrim instead), wouldn't have spent my last few weeks of school reading Pern novels in class, and wouldn't have met a pretty awesome person. Because you wouldn't be there.
I think most of those are good things? Hey, at least you've made a difference. :-P -
'Scuse me, got something in my eye. by
on 2018-06-11 22:45:00 UTC
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I'm... squinting at you critically for not paying attention in class. Yes. That is certainly in character for me, because I definitely haven't been enabling that sort of thing at all, and I was such a model student myself. >.>
C'mere, you. You and your darn warm fuzzies. *hugs*
I was going to play Skyrim today—I started a cool Khajiit character last night (and yes he does like to sneak)—but I've been dealing with cat puke and laundry instead. Alas.
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Aww... *hugs.* by
on 2018-06-12 01:21:00 UTC
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It seems like I'm good at warm fuzzies. Somehow. I dunno how.
I have a boring Nord because I'm boring. He was half-naked once (I installed SoS for the lulz. The removed it once the humor wore off). Now he is not.
Thing is, I've never played Skyrim before... like, a few months ago. I did play Daggerfall before. That is not an experience I would recommend. -
By saying nice stuff, I guess? by
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I dunno what mod SoS is. You can definitely run around in just a breech cloth in the vanilla game. People tend to be very displeased with you, though.
I went Breton with my first character to take advantage of the magic resistance, because I planned to be a melee fighter (axes are cool!) and figured it would be useful to keep mages from owning me until I could get close enough to wreck them. Success was limited. Ice magic is the worst.
Nords have cold resistance, though, so maybe your guy doesn't mind it so much.
If Khajiit is Khajiiting properly, he will be putting holes in the squishy mages before they even know he is there. {= 3
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I'm playing an Everything Hybrid by
on 2018-06-14 01:38:00 UTC
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I mean, I meant to be melee, but Skyrim really pushes you to try and be good at everything. It's a classic CRPG problem.
Skyrim is basically a nature walk where occasionally people try to kill you. Anyways, I got to Riften. Which is a fun town and... why is this theme playing? :-P
So yeah. I've heard the Thives' Guild questline is good. So I'm gonna do that. I felt really bad about stealing from that Argonian, though. That was his *wedding ring*. Q.Q
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That music is far too cheerful for Riften. by
on 2018-06-14 03:48:00 UTC
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Sure, it's a beautiful hold with all those pretty late-summer aspens and everything, but the capitol is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. And don't trust that sly git Brynjolf! Even if he calls you "lad" in that sexy voice of his!
Nah, I'm totally joining the Thieves' Guild this time. Brynjolf can call me "lad" all he wants. He's a tease, though—not a marriage option, to the annoyance of a great many fanbeings.
Wound up with the Companions the first time through, of course, and while you can technically join all the factions on the same save file (and they make you kick, kiss, or cry your way into the College at Winterhold whether you want to or not; never upping my magicka made that VERY interesting), it just feels wrong to me. Role-playing! Role-playing makes the game loads better. But also slightly frustrating when the options presented are not the ones you want. ... Fanfic!
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'Course he's a Tease! by
on 2018-06-14 12:00:00 UTC
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He's absolutely the sort for it.
Anycase, yeah... I don't think I can RP wel in Skyrim. Or in most CRPGs, for that matter. Maybe FNV or a Bioware game (when I play them, we'll see)? But not a TES game.
Why? Lack of meaningful choice. Sure, your choices change some stuff, but for the most part, the world just keeps spinning regardless of your decisions. No options ever get closed off to you, no matter how much it feels like one should be.
Oh, and as to why that theme... it's because Rogueport is a lot like Riften. Except more cartoony, obviously.
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True, there's just the one major choice. by
on 2018-06-14 19:30:00 UTC
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Well, maybe two.
First, Imperial or Stormcloak (or neither). It doesn't make a huge difference gameplay-wise, but picking one does exclude the other, it does alter the political landscape, and it will make a difference to the ultimate fate of Skyrim and Tamriel. And picking either, bringing an end to the war, is better than neither. Keeping the land in chaos is what the Aldmeri want, and they're bearing a super-old grudge against all mankind, so giving them what they want is a bad idea.
Second, not to give anything away, but what happens in Cidna Mine has some fairly major consequences for the Reach. Again, not a HUGE difference to gameplay, but pretty big ramifications for the overall stability of Skyrim.
Oh, and the culmination of the Dark Brotherhood questline is actually kind of a big deal. So, if you don't mind their whole murder schtick, that's a good one.
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I'll keep that in mind by
on 2018-06-14 21:30:00 UTC
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But yeah, Mass Effect or a half-decent dating sim, this isn't.
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Umm... by
on 2018-06-11 16:22:00 UTC
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Would a triple chocolate cupcake (chocolate with chocolate chips and chocolate icing) help? And maybe a hug too? I'm kinda frazzled myself...
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Ooh, yes. by
on 2018-06-11 22:31:00 UTC
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That will go very well with my klah. Thank you! I'll split it with you, too, cuz that's a lot of sugar. *hugs*
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No problem! (nm) by
on 2018-06-12 23:28:00 UTC
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/reaches for, offers hugs (nm) by
on 2018-06-11 14:38:00 UTC
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*hugs* (nm) by
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Speed-Dating RP! by
on 2018-06-11 23:41:58 UTC
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Because apparently watching Jacques Bonnefoy flirt with people in RP format is entertaining enough to spawn this!
Essentially: some
madbrave soul has set up a speed-dating event in HQ.No, it was not Jacques, what are these lies. Everyone is welcome, whether they've wandered in for the free food and drinks or are actually looking to meet people (whether for platonic or non-platonic purposes. Hey, you can make friends in the strangest of places!)At one of the tables is one Jacques Bonnefoy, ESAS. Being a former Jack Harkness character replacement, he's quite used to getting attention--and he loves it. He's here to make as many friends, acquaintances, and everything in between as possible, and will talk to absolutely anyone who cares to approach him.
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Essentially, this started up when, in the middle of a Discord roleplay, I mentioned it would be amusing to write something for the badfic games about Jacques going around and trying to flirt with as many agents as he could find. Then it became 'well, it would be interesting to get lists of how all different agents would react and then write based on that...' which in turn became 'there could be a thread somewhere to get IC lists?' which Thoth then said should be a roleplay thread. So, after a bit of convincing, here we are.
(There was a speed-dating roleplay thread in the past. I have not tracked it down to check exactly how it worked, and am not the one who ran it. If anyone remembers something from it that would make this one run smoother, feel free to mention!)
While this did start because of Jacques and he is mentioned above, he's by no means the only person around! He's just the agent I'm immediately throwing out there, because, let's face it, this is exactly his scene. He will cheerfully flirt and/or make friends with anyone who's open to it.
Please do start many subthreads that have nothing to do with him. Multiple conversations with the same characters are quite fine as well--speed-dating is built for it!
And, as always, Permission is unnecessary for RP participation. All are welcome!
Enjoy, I hope?
~Z
PS: Should you wish to, perhaps, mention how even characters you don't want to actually throw in here would react to being flirted with by Jacques...well, you may see that (perhaps deliberately poorly) fictionalized come the next Badfic Games in September ;) The more amusing the better!
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Farah Tahar came into the room and started wandering around, looking for people to talk to. by
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She'd gotten the invitation to this "speed dating" event, and she'd thought it was a good idea to come. She wasn't really looking for romance, but she'd only been in HQ for a few weeks now, and thought she'd come and get to know some people. Before heading down, she'd given her mane a more careful trim than usual.
(( Now, being flirted with by Jacques: - Once Peregrin had realized what was happening, it'd set him to reminiscing about his youth and also explaining he's not that interested. - Taq would be kinda weirded out by this - Kk'kttak's reaction would be along the lines of "crazy humans" and being pretty uninterested if/when he noticed the attempt - Farah would likely flirt back a bit, though it probably wouldn't go too far. - Florian is Not Interested. They're also basically a Dalek with a bunch of fire hoses and water canons and such attached, and so probably not prime flirting material. ))
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Dax entered the room, looking around. by
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He'd changed out of his usual things into a black silk tunic and boots that weren't scuffed and dusty, and his hair was braided even more elaborately than usual. He spotted Jacques at one of the tables and waved, but decided to sit elsewhere. He and Jacques had seen each other plenty of times in the past; no need to hog his favorite partner at a speed dating event.
He took a seat and looked around interestedly.
((As for how my characters would react to Jacques:
The Aviator would flirt back with heavy sarcasm Zeb would be like "Oh, are we on another date? :D" Charlotte and Ix: Well, you know, Dax flirts back Lorson sits there stony-faced Farilan laughs derisively Alex just grins And Olivine gives him a puzzled look and goes "Hang on, are you flirting, Squishy?"
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Dawn approached him, mainly drawn by how closely he resembled a Tolkien Elf. by
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Well, more the movieverse sort, but Elves were Elves, to some extent...
"Hi," she said cheerfully. She'd worn the same thing she'd worn on a short, easy mission earlier that day, which was to say her skirt was colorful, her shirt was black and had a potted cactus flashpatch on the shoulder, and her hair was in its usual very long braid. She'd redone the latter for neatness and added a ribbon into the braiding as her sole concession to being at an event. "Do you mind if I sit? I thought I'd start with someone I don't know, and while I do think I've seen you around a few times, I'm pretty sure we've never actually met."
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Dax's face lit up at her approach. by
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"No, please, do sit!" he said, hurriedly getting up from his seat to pull the other chair out for her. "You look familiar too, but I couldn't say where from..." He shook his head and held out a hand. "Dax, DIC. May I say it's lovely to meet you, miss...?"
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"Dawn. Oh, in DMS." by
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She shook his hand, smiling. "You've probably seen me around, too--I've been an agent for ages, and there's only so long you can be here before half of HQ's passed you in the hallways."
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"Dawn... Dawn..." Dax snapped his fingers. by
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"Dawn McKenna? I've heard a lot about you from Jacques Bonnefoy, if you're her. Either way—" He returned to his seat, steepling his fingers and smiling. "I look forward to getting to know you better."
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Dawn blinked. "You know Jacques?" by
on 2018-06-13 20:39:56 UTC
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"Wait...Dax." She frowned, eyeing him. "If that isn't your only face, and believe me, I don't mean to suggest you have a lot of them at once, but if it isn't, then I've heard about you too." Including some things I wish I hadn't, especially now I'm probably sitting across from you.
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"I mean, who doesn't know Jacques?" by
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Dax's smile widened and his features morphed into Jacques' likeness. "Tall, handsome, with a jawline that could cut steel..." He smiled at Dawn. "And yes—you'd be very correct that I've got a lot of faces. Comes with being a shapeshifter." He leaned back as he returned to his first, elven body. "I find potential partners sometimes like to make requests, if that's your thing."
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To her annoyance, Dawn could feel her face going red. by
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She almost wished he'd stuck with Jacques' face--odd as that was, hearing Jacques-but-not-Jacques (and not Jack, either) speak, she was at least used to him by now. This was new.
Still, shapeshifting? That was pretty cool, even if she could technically do it herself with the disguise generator. Maybe just trying to pretend he was Jacques would help with talking, too.
She smiled. "I don't know about the potential partners thing, unless you mean temporary agent partners, but...do you know the Chronicles of Prydain? They get almost no badfic, so I hardly ever get to go there, but it's been a favorite series of mine for years. I'd love to see characters from it face to face again."
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"Hang on, let me think..." by
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Dax looked up at the ceiling, rubbing his chin. "Ah! Princess Eilonwy work for you?" she asked as she morphed. "Sorry, I haven't heard about that series since, oh, three years ago in Intelligence?" She brushed her hair over her shoulder, smiling.
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Dawn smiled. by
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"Aw, lovely," she said. "I always liked Eilonwy. You should read--reread?--the series, if you don't mind a recommendation. It's really good, and it holds up really well."
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Dax grinned back at her. by
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"I'll definitely keep that in mind," she said, shifting back. "These days, it's all the big stuff—Avengers, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings—I actually kind of miss my smaller fandoms. Not that I like seeing badfic for them," he added hurriedly. "Though that does remind me, where are you from? I come from Dungeons and Dragons. Tabletop RPG, if you haven't heard of it."
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"No, I've heard of it," Dawn said. by
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"I'm just from World One, though--Canada, if you have any idea where that is. My family's still living there--well, my biological family. I've definitely got a few people here who couldn't be anything but family by now."
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"That's the one in the north that isn't Russia, right?" by
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Dax grinned. "I kid, I kid—I know my World One geography. Now, me, I was raised in an orc tribe in the northern wilds of Faerûn. Cross my heart, that's the truth."
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Dawn raised her eyebrows. by
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"Are you sure that's not just an excuse?" she said. "Like, if someone asks 'were you raised by orcs', as an equivalent of 'were you raised in a barn'--and then you say that actually, you were, and you find that offensive? Or, like, they just go 'oh, you poor dear', and excuse whatever manners they thought were bad to begin with because they think you actually were raised by orcs?"
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"Excuuuuse me." by
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"I can belch and hunt with my bare hands as well as the rest of them," Dax said, holding up a sassy finger, "but I like to think my manners can be quite nice, when I want them to be." He leaned forward and conspiratorially whispered, "You haven't seen me eating with my hands, have you?"
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"I haven't seen you eating at all. You can really hunt with your bare hands, though? Because if you can, that's pretty impressive."
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"Alright, I might have embellished the truth a little bit," he confessed. "I know how to do that in theory, but in practice? Give me a longbow any day, please. I've got the strength score of a mealworm." He gave Dawn an easy smile. "Now, doing a backflip off a dragon and onto the skyship below? Been there, done that."
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"You what? Off a dragon? On a skyship?"
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"Mmm-hmm." by
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Dax spread his hands. "What can I say? I was an adventurer. Crazy stunts like that happened every day for me."
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"That's amazing," Dawn said. by
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"No wonder Jacques likes you. Well," she added, "I know it's not the only reason, but an adventurer? That's really cool."
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Dax grinned. "You bet." by
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"I've lived a pretty long life—seen a lot of stuff, too. Skyship guard, lover of dragons, killer of demons, delver of the Elemental Planes..." Conspiratorially, he added, "It all sounds very impressive, but that's pretty typical of Dungeons and Dragons games. Still, if you'd like me to, I could share some more stories... maybe over dinner?"
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Dawn opened her mouth to reply, and then closed it when her brain caught up to the implications. by
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Annoyingly, her cheeks were heating up again. It was the suddenness of the invitation that had done it; she wasn't used to people flirting with her at random, and especially not with dinner offers. Definitely not dinner offers within half an hour of meeting her.
Then again, could this really be called random? It was technically a speed-dating event, and she had chosen to sit down here...
"I do like stories," she said cautiously, "and that really does sound pretty interesting--and, well, food is always great, I like food, everyone likes food--but I'm not, uh, really looking for...well, I came here mostly to make friends. Or maybe find someone to date, but that'd be more by chance, I think--I'm not really, seriously, actively looking. And, um, feel free to prove me wrong, but from the little bit I know about you, I don't really think we'd be looking for the same things there?"
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"Fling or friends, it doesn't matter to me," he said. "So long as the food is good and the company better. And so far, you've been excellent company, Dawn." He smiled at her. "I wouldn't mind getting to know you better, no strings attached."
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"That sounds good, then," she said. "Have you tried the pizza in New Cal?" She paused. "You have tried pizza at all, right? I'm pretty sure you've been here at least...three years? Something like that? Because if you haven't, it's a crying shame and we're definitely getting some. Unless you have something against any of the ingredients."
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Dax somehow managed to keep a straight face as he responded. by
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"To be completely frank, I find pizza an absolutely horrid invention. Cheese makes me sick, and tomatoes? Absolutely disgusting. I'll accept nothing less than raw boar's meat."
He held it for another second before cracking up. "Nah, pizza's great. You like olives?"
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"Green, though, especially on pizza. Or kalamata. Kalamata are delicious. I stopped liking black olives sometime after childhood, though--I'll eat them if they're around, I guess, but I definitely don't go looking for them."
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"Green olives it is!" by
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"And don't worry about New Cal—I've been there dozens of times. It's a nice place. Weather should be starting to cool off a bit, too," Dax added. "Make a day of it, maybe?"
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Dawn smiled. by
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"That sounds lovely. Do you know when you'll be free, or should we just set it up by ICEP?"
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"I think ICEP." by
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Dax pulled a small notebook out of his tunic and scribbled a number before tearing out the page and handing it to Dawn. "RC 1337—send me a message whenever you're free, and I'll make time for you."
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Dawn bit her lip, trying not to laugh at the RC number. by
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"Thanks," she said when she felt she had it down to a smile. "I'm in RC 18, if you...actually, I don't know why you'd need to know that, especially since you can look up my ICEP without it if you have to, but I'm used to reciprocating."
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"Excellent." by
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Dax rose from his seat and gave Dawn a small bow. "I think our time together is up, but Miss Dawn, it was wonderful meeting you. I look forward to that pizza."
((What? It is speed-dating, after all.))
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Dawn smiled. by
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"Same here," she said. "It was really nice to meet you! I'm going to have to ask Jacques why he never bothered introducing us--it's a real shame this didn't happen sooner."
((:D Quite true!))
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"...So anyways, that's why systemd is the worst."
"Tom," said Talia, rolling her eyes, "you're acting like I don't know all of this already. Or like he cares."
"I don't", Dagger was quick to opine. "In case you thought I did." The surly Dragonborn trailed slightly, as if trying to distance himself.
"Fiiine... I'll just leave my fascinating technical trivia by the wayside, then." Tom sighed. "With my winning personality, I'm sure people will be throwing themselves at me..."
Talia grinned. "Oh, don't worry so much. I'm sure someone will want to hang with an absolute doofus."
"Well, I'm not that bad." Tom frowned. "No, my real question is, what the hell is Dagger doing here?"
"That's easy," said Dagger. "Free food. I got recruited out of college. Never broke the habit of not turning down a free meal."
((Yes, everyone but Thoth. I wanted to give them all a bit of time to shine, because he's the one who gets all the focus usually. :-(.
Anyways, responses to flirting:
Thoth - Depending on the mood, explain he's not interested, brush it off (possibly with a side of condescention), or find some way to mess with whoever's throwing it at him.
Tom - Seeing as we're talking about a guy, he's be horrifyingly embarrassed, awkward, and uncomfortable.
Talia - Go along with it. Possibly with some snark on the side. Unlikely to take it any further than that.
Dagger - Most likely, outright hostility, sarcasm, and general bitterness (contrast his usual apathetic grumpiness—wait, you haven't seen enough of him to do that yet). Even if he finds the guy attractive. Yes, he is into guys. Is this surprising? :-P))
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Farah came over to the bipedal reptilian fellow in the group. by
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"Hi!" she said to them excitedly.
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"What'cha want?"
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"I'm pretty new," Farah said. by
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"and the message said this was a place to get to know people, so here I am."
She looked around the room. "Uh, this is the speed dating event, right?"
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"Something like that." by
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Dagger gave a noncomittal shrug. "And to what great personage do I owe the pleasure?"
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"I would be Farah Tahar." she said, nodding her head slightly. by
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"Who are you?" she asked. "And is there some title or greeting gesture or something you use I should know about? I don't think I've met anyone from your species before."
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"Dagger." by
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"That's what everyone calls me anyways. Can't be bothered to change that."
He shrugged. "If there are cutural traditions of my people, I wouldn't know. Most Dragonborn don't go to college. Or get recruited to play tech support in an interdimensional conflict with the forces of darkness, where darkness is represented by some of the most eye-gouging writing I have ever read, and given the imbeciles that I have met over the years, believe me, that is saying something."
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"Most hani don't fall through plotholes while their ship's exploding either," Farah said. by
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"but here I am, and here you are."
"I'm think I'm going to be in one of the action departments, but I'm still in training, which apparently involves reading books and watching movies a bunch."
"What'd you study in college, Dagger?"
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"EE" by
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"And thus, it is my eternal destiny to deal with problems caused by the kind of dolts who live in a magical dreamworld where the laws of physics don't apply. Like my partner." He grimaced. "Programmers, the lot of them..."
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"I don't know much aobut programmers." by
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"I did run the radios back on the Ambition, though, so I know a little bit about engineering. Got pretty good at dealing with aliens, bureaucrats, and alien bureaucrats." Farah sighed. "It was good practice for here, turns out."
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"Hell yes." by
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"And here I thought humanity was bad. The flowers are even worse... Still beats my home, though."
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"Humans don't seem that bad." Farah said, noncomitally waving a paw. by
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"Then again, maybe I just haven't met the sort of humans who'd be running station offices yet." she added. "But, uh, what happened back home, if you don't mind sharing?"
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Dagger's eyes narrowed. by
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"That would be none of your business, Farah," he spat. "Believe me, I don't need your help digging up painful memories."
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Farah's ears lowered. by
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"Sorry." she said.
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"Think nothing of it," he muttered. by
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"Most people certainly don't. And 's nothing personal against you."
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Farah nodded and her ears moved closer to their usual position. by
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"Want to go grab some food?" she offered, hoping to change the subject. "I'm a bit hungry."
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Dagger shrugged. "'s what I'm here for." (nm) by
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Farah started walking towards one of the food tables at the leisurely pace.
"Thought you were here to meet folks too."
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Jacques sat at one of the tables, scanning the room. by
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He was dressed far more casually than usual, in dark jeans and a deep purple t-shirt of a soft fabric that clung pleasantly. His favored black military jacket was draped over the back of his chair.
He was glad this event was happening, even if not too many people had shown up yet. It felt nice, having a break from missions which was specifically set aside to talk to people. Who knew how many strangers would show up? He'd been an agent for five years, but that (unfortunately) didn't mean he'd managed to meet the whole of HQ's population. For one thing, HQ was big; for another, not everyone frequented the same places, or any places outside their own RCs. Moreover, new people were coming in all the time...
This was going to be fun. He could already tell. Who knew how many friends (and 'friends') he'd manage to make here? And he could get to know people he already knew a bit better--he could see a few of them in the room...
Yes, this was definitely going to be fun.
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She was carrying a rather fruity drink.
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Jacques smiled warmly. by
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"Pull up a chair," he said, and offered his hand. "Jacques Bonnefoy, ESAS, and may I say, you look lovely?"
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"Farah Tahar, I don't know yet." she said, lightly grasping and shaking Jacques's hand. by
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"And thanks." Farah continued, pulling out a chair to sit down in. "You look pretty good too."
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New Prompts! by
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Because no, I couldn't think up a better title.
Anyway, onto the prompts for this fornight, in honour of Nesh's birthday post below and Matt Cipher's Ficlet Response (that I loved), the two prompts for this one are:
Prompt 1: It's your character's birthday.
Prompt 2: One of your characters is trying to cook something.
Hope you have fun with these.
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Practical Skills by
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Gall thunked her third glass of mead down on the table and stared across it at her partner. “You’ve never cooked for yourself? Not once?”
“Why would I?” Derik glowered at her, taking umbrage at her extreme disbelief. “More to the point: when would I? My time was thoroughly occupied with studying, then raising a dragonet, then being a dragonrider.”
Frowning in skepticism, she held out her hands as though to encompass a simple object. “But it’s, like, a basic life skill.”
He snorted. “It’s called division of labor. I sing, they cook; I fly, they cook; I mission, they cook.” He indicated Rudi’s kitchen with a gesture.
“But . . . you never even cooked out or anything? You know, meat on a stick, fire, something even the biggest, dumbest idiot should be able to do without totally screwing it up?”
“With that attitude, I suppose you’re some sort of culinary expert.” He chuckled, plainly very amused with the notion.
Gall regarded him quite seriously. “My father and I lived in exile for eight years. You met my father. Who do you think made that whole thing work?”
That gave him pause. “Well, all right, but feeding yourself isn’t the same as cooking. Like you said, any idiot can roast meat on a stick, right?”
She rolled her eyes. “Freya’s tits. That’s it. You. Me. General Store. Now.”
“What? But—” He gestured to the half-finished food and drinks on the table, but Gall was already up and tugging on his arm.
“Now!”
“All right, all right!” He downed the last half of his ale as he rose and just managed to get the glass back on the table upright as he was dragged out of the pub.
Twenty minutes later, Derik found himself sitting in the moon-lit Courtyard with his sleeves rolled up and his fingers sunk into a mound of barley and wheat flour on a flat, freshly scrubbed rock. A small fire, courtesy of Fellrazer, gave additional light. Occasionally, a horse or a wolf would wander by to see what was going on, but the presence of the dragon, curled up on a patch of ground he’d toasted to a comfortable warmth, discouraged them from getting too close.
Gall hovered at Derik’s elbow, watching his progress. “Okay, you’ve got your flax, your lard, and my personal very secret ingredients that you will not share with anyone on pain of asskicking. Now just work it until it comes together—carefully! If you mess up that well, your bread is screwed. Here, look. Like this.”
She pushed up her own sleeves and slid her fingers in with his. Derik followed her guidance, and together they pulled the dry ingredients into the wet, first mixing, then kneading. Their hands got slick with the grease and flax, and slid easily over each other. After a few minutes, they had a uniform round of dough.
“There. That’s good.” Gall nodded, then gave him one of those looks, like she expected or hoped for something from him.
After a moment spent deciding how to respond, Derik folded his hands in his lap and said, “So now what?”
Gall shrugged. “It rests overnight, and we get fresh, hot bread in the morning.”
“Really.” Derik raised an eyebrow. “I don’t see an oven.”
“You don’t lug an oven around on a raid, genius.” She punched his shoulder for his quibble. “It bakes on a rack over the fire, or you wrap it around a stick. In this case, stick-bread. Only one rack to be had around here, and it ain’t for baking.” She grinned.
Derik’s mind resolutely sidled around the come-on. “In the meantime, we’ve got a lump of dough sitting on a rock in the middle of the Courtyard. What’s the plan for that?”
“Wanna camp out?”
“You don’t get enough of that on missions?”
“That’s because we have to. This is because we want to. It’s totally different.”
Try as he might, Derik couldn’t fault her logic. And it was nice to be safe from Suvians or rogue time skips under a wide, starry sky, even if it was fake. He couldn’t think why he didn’t come here more often.
“You don’t think it’ll get too cold?” he said.
“Well, if it does,” Gall started eagerly, and then, with a visible effort, turned the remark in a different direction. She’d tried the spooning for warmth tactic before, to no avail. “I’ve got Fellrazer,” she finished. “Anyway, it’s not like we’re in the Archipelago or somewhere it gets proper cold. This is nothing.”
“True enough. All right, I suppose I don’t mind. And in the morning, we’ll see if this recipe of yours actually turns out edible.” He got up to go wash off in the nearby stream.
Gall sprang up after him and gave him a shove, setting him off-balance for a step. “No, we’ll see if you aren’t a completely pathetic waste of space when it comes to practical skills.”
Once recovered, he shoved back. “I have many practical skills.”
“Oh yeah? Name one.”
“Functional literacy?”
“Nah, that’s a fancy-pants Harper skill. Try again.”
This continued while they scrubbed the fat off their hands and while Gall wrapped the bread dough in the empty barley flour package. Finally, they settled down on the grass under a large elm tree and went to sleep.
In the morning, there was fresh, hot stick-bread, it was indeed edible, and both partners considered it time well spent.
Viking flatbread recipe yoinked from a YouTube video I've since lost track of, based on findings from this study.
The stick-bread comes from commenters on the video, who remarked that the recipe sounds similar to something still made in Scandinavian countries today.
I kinda want to try this myself... we'll see.
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More Gall and Derik! Wooo! by
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Have I made it quite clear enough that I like these two yet? I like these two.
I kinda just skimmed this piece because jeez is it 10:40 already? But yeah. I like Gall and Derik, and they have a good thing going.
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*shipping goggles: activate* by
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This was a really cute fluff piece! Poor Gall, throwing out hints left and right and Derik resolutely not noticing them.
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Whaaat, they work! by
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Y'know, when the banter is just banter and not actual fighting...
Actually, in all seriousness, the more I play with the ship, the more I see how it can be nearly stable. Not totally stable, cuz look who we're dealing with, but considering Gall settling down a bit as she gets older and Derik getting more of a grip with help from his bro Thoth? There will certainly be bumps in the road, but the ship won't totally derail and fall out of the sky because of them.
... I think I have lost track of what kind of vehicle this actually is.
In any case, I'm having a lot of fun using these prompts to set it up. Much easier than trying to do it in missions alone. I'm glad you enjoyed this one. Thanks!
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Another year by
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The morning, like all other mornings in RC 112358 over the last few years, began with the sound of bells. Peregrin woke up and read the (Arban) date off the clock tower he'd built in the RC. Two hundred and forty six years now, he thought, plus or minus a day. It was, unless HQ had been messing with time to excess, his birthday.
I wonder if I should make an announcement. Peregrin thought, as he was sitting up and getting out of bed. Back home, a birthday generally passed with a remark at a meal with an accompanying toast, or possibly during Proventer. Headquarters, however, was much too large for these types of communal gatherings. So, his last three birthdays had been quite small affairs. Last year, his now-former partner Tomash had taken him to a rather nice restaurant in New Caledionia, for example.
Or I could organize a party. he continued thinking as he wound the tower. This wasn't something he ever needed to do, as the clock had to be able to keep itself running when he was on missions, but the mechanism made the RC a bit closer to just another extremely remote math. But who would I invite? he wondered. And the organization would take significant energy so that is a bad idea.
Pondering potential birthday plans and wondering what the giggling child a fewt doors down was up to got Peregrin through to lifting the weight on the clock all the way up to the top of the tower. I suppose I could simply go to Rudi's, maybe invite Tomash or Taq. he concluded as he walked towards a chair. Yes, that is a reasonable way to mark the year. Yes.
"Taq?" he asked his partner, who was also waking up.
"Sir?"
An annoyed look crossed Peregrin's face. "Would you be interested in—"
[BEEEEEEEEEEEEP!/Dong, dong....]
The console went off, along with the bell sequence for Voco that was meant to replace the beeping.
"Thought he'd fixed..." Peregrin muttered as he shut off the alarm.
"What'd you want, boss?" Taq asked once the noise had died down.
"Birthday plans." Peregrin replied. "Not important at the moment." I should have seen this coming.
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(This review is offered as part of my new standing pledge, in response to this post of yours. Aura was actually written by Kaitlyn - I've passed your comments on - but I'll take it anyway. :))
I'm going to jump right in and say it: I love the framing of a story by way of clock maintenance. It does a good job of keeping the writing contained, while also telling us a little about Peregrin. Metaphorically, it also casts Peregrin as a 'clockwork' figure himself: his stream of consciousness comes over as even more structured and logic-focussed than it perhaps already would. The repeated "Yes... yes." in his final thought takes on overtones of a tick... tick... tick. It's good use of the frame to enhance the narrative.
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I'm glad you enjoyed reading this.
A lot of the overtones you noticed (like the structure of the final thought) weren't things I set out to do when writing, so yay for accidentally doing cool stuff?
And Peregrin's stream of consciousness being logic-focused is a character trait of his, mainly arising from his being a theoretical physicist/mathematician from a cross between a monastery and a university. It sounds like I might need to work on better ways to represent his thought process, though, since it certainly isn't as systematic as a computer or clock (it's the usual jumping to possibilities and pruning out things that look like they wouldn't work).
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Cooking by the book by
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Loosely based off a true story.
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In a moment of pure and utter shame, Jordan picked up his phone, and called Harris.
"Oh hey Jordan, wait just a moment so I can put you on speakerphone. I'm in the car right now."
As he listened to Harris' fumbling in the car, Jordan grimaced.
"All good now. What's up?"
"So, I tried making pasta, and it came out horrible. Got any advice or special tips I should know? I know you don't cook a lot, but you gotta know something."
"I mean yeah, sure there's ways to cook well, but pasta? You just take a pot of water and boil it, and shove some spaghetti or something in. It can't be that bad."
"It really, really was that bad. Can you please please please just give me some instructions? I'm making penne for Aaron tonight."
"How can you mess up pasta terribly? It's two ingredients. Pasta and water."
"The pasta caught fire; just tell me what to do."
"Wo-HAH WAIT HAHH WHAT HOW HAH HAH HAA-"
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Not bad - I still generally got a sense of the story - just short. I would've liked to actually see the pasta fire, but that might be me.
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...Whoever this true story is based off of... by
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...wouldn't happen to be my best friend, would it? When I first went over to her house, we were going to make dinner, just the two of us, and she assured me she knew how to cook pasta. We ended up having to scrub the pot out and I showed her how to do it from step one.
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Culinary Experiments by
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Ce’rana of Borune glared at the pan as yet another of these thin shells tore and muttered irritably as she was forced to scrape it into the filling garbage can. “Ridiculous thing,” she grumbled, reaching for her bowl of batter to begin the process once more. “How is it that you are so fragile and people can still make you work?”
She sighed as she ladeled it into the pan. “The only reason I bother with you is that someone refused to share. If he wanted it all for himself, he could easily have waited for me to leave - but no, he had to show off how well he could do this. On that note, how is it that he makes it seem effortless to keep you in one piece? Is there some mysterious technique that I have failed to discover yet?”
The Dryad managed to become more and more irritated as she spread the batter around, perhaps a bit thicker than was strictly necessary this time. “And if I were to ask him how it is that he makes it seem so easy, all he would say is that he has more practice than I do. So if there is some secret that I am unaware of, he would not tell me, merely leave me to figure it out on my own, infuriating thing that he is.”
She glanced over at the tub of Nutella, which had been locked up and covered in chains until Alex came back. “And this. I am not that bad with chocolate, Alex. There really is no need to take such measures with it whenever you leave the room. As though I could not get past something so simple.” She chuckled to herself at that; he had no idea of her past hobbies, obviously, or he would have taken measures a bit less flimsy than a pair of two-pin locks.
Of course, that was just too tempting to the IO. The container fell from its shelf, popping open when it hit the floor, dragged by the weight of the chains she had left around its base. The resulting mess spattered all across the floor.
Ce’rana simply stared, first at the goopy brown mess, then at the garbage can full of failed crepes, then the shell that was presently trying to burn.
“What smells like burning crepes?” Alex stepped into the room, a cheerful grin on his face which faded immediately as he beheld the absolute mess on his side of the room. “Ce’rana. What did you do?”
She looked up at him helplessly. “I…” Words failed for her for a moment before she came up with a simple, effective answer. “I have no idea.”
Alex walked over and sighed. “If I make you a crepe, will you clean up your mess? I was hoping to get sleep at some point today.”
The tiny agent looked around for a moment, taking stock of exactly how much cleaning she would have to do. Well, I suppose this is mostly just scrubbing the floor, she decided. “That sounds like a very good idea. Though would you be offended if I ask how it is you manage to make them not fall apart?”
“Sì, certo.” He moved in to carefully pour and spread the next crepe. “It is all about being gentle and slow. You just have to wait until it’s nice and ready, then carefully slide the rod under the delicate batter. Get it nice and loose, then pull it up and quickly flip it over. Then, it’s finally time to fill it.” He began to spoon the leftover nutella onto the crepe, getting it ready.
Ce’rana close to ignore the massive pile of hopefully-accidental innuendo (though she couldn’t avoid what she hoped was a small smirk) in favor of leaning a little closer to make sure she could see exactly how Alex was going about getting the shell ready to be flipped.
Once the nutella was in the shell, Alex folded it over and easily scooped it onto a plate. “Merda,now I want one.” He poured out another shell’s worth of batter as he offered the plate to Ce’rana.
She took it with a smile, then stepped away to grab a pair of forks and a second plate. “Thank you, Alex,” she said sweetly.
“Va Bene.” He started to get the shell ready to flip, smiling softly. “Don’t feel bad about not knowing how to do it easily. I’ve been learning how to do it properly since I was six years old. With that much practice, it was bound to get easier.”
And just like that, the shell tore. Ce’rana couldn’t keep herself from breaking into laughter at his expression.
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The shells tore and muttered irritably? by
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Sorry, that was my first thought when I read the first line.
But then you built up a terrible tension until I realized, nearly halfway through the story, what Ce’rana was doing. Hmm, crepes.
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"Make a wish!" by
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Elanor looked up at her mother, tiny brow furrowed in confusion.
"You blow out the candle and you make a wish," the Aviator repeated. "It's a—ELANOR, NO—"
Elanor licked her hand while her mother was talking and smashed her palm down on top of the candle wick, extinguishing it. She giggled and clapped her hands together. "Again!"
"Maybe we should just eat the cake," Zeb suggested hurriedly, and Elanor nodded in agreement.
"Cake," she crooned, and grabbed a handful of cake. Her mouth was soon covered in sticky blue frosting.
The Aviator grinned and shook her head. "Here you go, kiddo," she said, cutting a slice around the missing fistful of cake and setting it on Elanor's high chair tray. "All for you. Just don't get any in your..." She trailed off as Elanor promptly mashed a handful of cake on top of her head. "...Hair."
Zeb laughed and accepted a slice for himself. "You're going to miss her doing that," he said, elbowing the Aviator gently.
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Short and sweet. by
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With all that frosting, how could it not be? {= )
One good point I noticed: I like that you tell us it's her first birthday simply by mentioning the single candle and having Elanor act like a one-year-old (albeit one that clearly comprehends exactly what the adults around her are saying because Time Tot). It's subtle, and it tells us exactly what we need to know without taking time from a very short scene to spell it out. Excellent technique!
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Writing Elanor getting older has been... interesting, to say the least. Trying to balance normal baby antics with Time Tot intelligence without her coming off as an overly-creepy child is hard. I'm glad it works out well here!
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This is cute by
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Sorry I can't really provide more detailed concrit.
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Speed-Dating RP! by
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For both platonic and non-platonic intent, despite the name. All welcome (regardless of Permission status). Of my characters, Jacques Bonnefoy (who kind of spawned this whole thing) is quite available to talk to, by anyone who wishes to show up.
This RP is happening over at the T-Board! The link is here. Come check it out! A more complete explanation of both the RP setting and how it came about is there as well.
And one more thing: I'm interested in collecting, for the Badfic Games, descriptions of how agents would react to being flirted with by a wandering Jacques. A little more detail on that is on T-Board as well. If you'd like to potentially see your agents show up in a badfic to be flirted with, leave me a post! Unsuccessful reactions definitely welcome as well! My goal here is to get a sampling of HQ (and probably amuse us all with the responses in the process).
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Threw up a post. :) (nm) by
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My Immortal question by
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Would this fic be another Valcentica, as in the fic is so in-name-only it becomes original fiction? If not, name an example of this in any fandom.
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You'd have to ask Ix, as that's who claimed it. =] (nm) by
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Elevator pitches - a novel-editing survey by
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You know what I'm rubbish at? Editing. For some reason, while I can churn out a novel-length story (on five occasions, in under 30 days), I have a nightmare of a time trying to sit down and edit it into something worth having - or, for instance, worth publishing (that long-time dream of any writer).
Part of the reason is that, well, publishing a novel sounds hard. If I plunge myself into editing (which often = completely rewriting), only for no-one to ever read it... what's the point?
So we come to this thread, a neat weaponisation of elevator pitches in the war against apathy. Below are titles, first lines, and five-second summaries of each of my four candidate novels (they're all NaNos, so they all exist as ~50K-word stories). What I'm hoping you will do is read through them, click on the link to the survey, and select which of the four you'd be most likely to read if it was published. :) (It's literally just the one question - no name or anything. Takes about ten seconds.)
And then what I'm hoping you'll do is write up your own title-firstline-elevatorpitch post, scrape together a Google Form, and post it so that I (and everyone else) can say what we think of your ideas. And maybe that'll inspire you, too, to get down to some heavy editing, and eventually seeing your name on the cover of a paperback down at the local bookshop. :)
The Next Great Wizard
The world is a mirror – you only get out what you put in, it's prone to deceiving the unwary eye, and sometimes you can walk straight through it. Or is that just me?
Portal fantasy. A young man falls into a fantasy world behind the mirrors, where he is hailed as the Next Great Wizard of prophecy. Or possibly as the new Dark Lord. Only time will tell.
The Kraken-Knights of Wintertide
The sky-farms lay blue under the sun, waiting for the harvest.
Fantasy. Magical war with flying giant squid, medieval warlord Santa, and lots of puns.
The Words of the Voice
Out of nothing, the Voice spoke Itself.
Science-based creation myth written in pseudo-scriptural style, with commentary by one member of an extremely fractious fictional academic community.
Gravity's Embrace
She sauntered towards me, wearing nothing but a smile and three thousand tonnes of warship.
Soft sci-fi. The pilot of an experimental spaceship is kidnapped, and then he and his abductor are both kidnapped again - but no-one seems to know precisely what experiments his ship was running. Least of all himself.
The Survey - Which one do you like the look of?
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Another PPC Edition! by
on 2018-06-26 12:00:00 UTC
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Though in a different vein from Delta's. For the most part, I'm not planning new spin-offs--I'm planning to go back and develop and write for characters I already created who may have gotten a little sidelined, or just plain had their stories delayed. I also have ideas for arcs, and partially finished stories lying around. This is a combination of all that. I do already have a sense of what I’ll be working on first, but I’d love to know what people are interested in!
Without Me (You'll Be Cold in Summer)
"[...] To say that a Klingon has no honor is to provoke a fight to the death."
Allison was gaping at him. "That--that's--"
"We are a very warlike people," Kozar said helpfully. When his new partner continued to gape he grinned at her, sharp and amused. "I have had a Terran partner before, Allison. I know how to make allowance for innocent mistakes."
This is a planned set of interludes, with probably a couple of missions as well. The focus?The epic tale ofKozar's first DIC partnership (in 2013-14), with a human named Allison Brown. She and her character arc actually predate Kozar; even so, I'm glad I didn't start off with her, because she's now had the chance to develop a lot, and I like how she's turned out. She's been mentioned here and there without a name, and recently got her first appearance in this interlude, where Kozar dreams of her.
Essentially: Allison Brown, a mostly comics- and parody musicals-oriented young American woman, wakes up in the PPC and soon finds herself partnered with an alien from a series she knows nothing about. Kozar, meanwhile, has finally gotten repartnered after his move to the DIC (following a tribble incident. Of the sort where his human partner refused to get rid of one). This new partner? Another human. Somehow, it works. Unfortunately, tragedy is waiting in the offing...
Mission: 'Partially Kissed Hero,' or It Gets Worse
Dawn McKenna whistled to herself as she wandered through the grey hallways of the Headquarters of the Protectors of the Plot Continuum. Had anyone she knew been in earshot, they would have been unsurprised to recognize the Pirates of the Caribbean theme; as it was, only the walls bore witness.
Dawn McKenna and Jacques Bonnefoy go on a mission to a Legendary Badfic. It is quite possibly the weirdest mission either of them has ever faced. In short? It’s Partially Kissed Hero.
(Yup. This is happening. It’s going to be fun, y’all. And I’m not even being completely sarcastic.)
Mission: 'Blade,' or "...and razed you from hobbition"
"Give me a new partner,” Brenda insisted. "One that wasn't a Suethor two days ago."
No.
“Why not?”
It’s DMS policy not to switch partners before the first mission.
“You made that up.”
The SO shifted some paperwork around on the table and didn’t reply.
Once upon a time, I got Permission with agents Brenda Loringham and Charlie Shoe. They, uh, fell to the wayside somewhat, appearing primarily in an April Fool's Day mission, the comments section of several Multiverse Monitor theater reviews, and quite a few unpublished (or unfinished and unpublished) interludes and missions. One of these unfinished and unpublished missions was their first, to a badfic called "Blade."
Now, I want to rewrite and finish that first mission of theirs.
Senior agent Brenda Loringham and recent OFUM graduate Charlie Shoe try their best not to kill each other while taking on Laiqualassiel, Grelvish-speaking half-elven healer and last of the nymphs of Middle-earth.
Untitled Jacques-Calaquendi Interlude (2014)
Jacques Bonnefoy stood on a grassy Rohirric hill, swaying slightly in the wind. Faint glittery smears on the grass were the only sign of the Sue he’d just pushed through a portal to the current location of a pack of Wargs.
In 2014, Jacques Bonnefoy ends up accidentally visiting the pair of First Age Elves he did a mission with earlier on in the same year. A friendship continues to unfurl between Gurnirel and Naergondir and the human they spent days with in Hobbit disguise, who turns out to be a weirdly immortal human with a still-settling personality.
The ’Verses Aim to Misbehave (Blackout Interlude)
“Sherlock? Sherlock!”
“Ssshh!” A. J. Crowley rounded on the flatmate of the consulting detective in question. “There’s a meatloaf monster running around! Sstop yelling!”
Yup, this is the Blackout Interlude, as I started calling it ages before giving it a proper title. Set during the 2013 HQ Blackout, this is the ongoing, ever-growing “interlude” that, uh, isn’t finished yet. Involved in it are a large cadre of characters, as one might expect: it begins with Dawn, involves the author getting thrown into the mix, featured the original first appearance of Kozar and the Reader (as written by me, anyway, the Reader may have already shown up in the Continuity Council planning?) and just plain has a whole bunch of canon characters in there as well (from Supernatural, Sherlock, Good Omens…) And that’s not all! Tune in for more parts (the first three were posted, and at some point I started overhauling it…?) to find out where Castiel wandered off to, why exactly Kozar, the Reader, and Sherlock are finding people hanging upside down from lampposts in HQ, how Jack Harkness knew the Doctor had been in the PPC (see the end of Lily Winterwood’s interlude for reference), and where in the world Jacques came into this mess…and even more!
…in short? A Blackout romp, featuring many canon characters, the recruitment of an agent pair, the first meeting of future friends (also agents), and a mystery or three. Also, a nice little handful of meta. The original versions of the first three parts can be found here; the ‘first lines’ above are technically from the beginning of one of the scenes in the fourth part.
The Wandering Baron
Eshakhar sat in a nicely, if simply, carved wooden chair in her study at the Castle of Dawn.
A Plort story, in which newly-minted Baron Eshakhar reflects on her new status and the fate of her old friend. Set about a year ago.
Untitled Reader/Naya Piece (Interlude)
It was a nice day, probably, the Reader thought.
The Reader tries to come up with and perfect a gift for Naya. There is poetry. It is bad. Kozar makes an appearance.
Dawn's LotR Nightmare (tentative title)
Jacques woke up, oddly enough, to a familiar voice telling him to get up. Or, well, it seemed to be talking to him...it was a little hard to tell.
“Ardir,” the voice said. A gentle hand squeezed his shoulder. “Ardir, you must awaken. We will soon have guests, and I will have need of your help. Make haste.”
“Listen,” Jacques said, and began to open his eyes, wondering as he did so why no one else was in his bed, “I think you might have the--”
Here he stopped, and stared.
An old, about half-written idea that I think was meant for April Fool's Day (and semi-canonical at best), in which Dawn and a small handful of other agents wake up to find themselves acting out the Fellowship of the Ring events (with some additions)...in disguise...and without any PPC technology. Follow along as they try to figure out how they got there and what they can do to stop the story and get home!
(Aka, the one in which many, many people for some reason resemble Dawn, only a handful of people are real, there are First Age Elves playing Hobbits, bookverse characters exist, there are some suspiciously Sueish characters floating around, and it's very possible the whole thing started with a bit too much fun with a LotR dollmaker on dolldivine.)
(This isn't currently that high on my list of stories to finish, but...I'm curious to see if there's interest in it).
Untitled Reader/Naya alternate meeting (short AU)
Naya had been looking forward to the party, in a way that was really partly just about getting to see her partners in a party setting.
An alternate universe story in which Naya didn't attend a TARDIS repair session and the Guardsman and the Reader never resolved their differences. Instead, Naya meets an awkward young Time Lady at a social event and has a sharp discussion with her partner to finally set the record straight. (Not co-written, characters used with permission).
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Twice over the years, I've had dreams that were basically fully plotted stories. I wrote down everything I could remember immediately after waking up . . . unfortunately, I was unable to find the paper with the notes tonight, so they may be dead in the water. But just for the sake of sharing the ideas with you folks:
[the one where zookepers secretly worship an ancient nature deity]
After discovering something primal and powerful buried underneath their land, the higher-up zookeepers begin to follow a dark path, and the lives of neither the animals they once cared about, nor their own human coworkers, hold much value to their rapidly slipping consciences. But then again, their new god holds their lives in equally low regard.
[the one that I barely remember but basically looked at a haunted property from a historical perspective throughout many decades]
Before it was restored and remodeled into the modern-day community center, that building has been many things over the years. The warm, safe home of a broken family. A hideout for Prohibition-dodgers. An ostensible dormitory that morphed into a college party house. A sanctuary for the homeless. But two things have always been constant: the deaths, and the black cat.
So yeah. If I don't find those notes, I'll need to do some serious focused thought on these to be able to recreate all the details from the original dreams. And I'm more focused on my PPC fiction anyway, so. Probably don't count on seeing these published ever? But here's a just-for-fun poll, all the same.
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And some pitches, PPC edition! by
on 2018-06-18 21:07:00 UTC
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Because I've got a bunch of different spin-off ideas running around, and no clue which one I want to write most. Here's my favorites!
Friday the Thirteenth
Grace Trouble Hopper Byron Null knew it was going to be a bad day when she found the first note. It simply read Sorry, in her own handwriting.
(Time shenanigans. Grace Null is many things: slacker, bartender, HQ kid, time traveler… and she and her TARDIS are often the thin line between HQ and Emergencies. This is made slightly more complicated by the nature of HQ, time, fandom, and the part where her moms are around in the present.)
Fish and Feathers
“Talia,” Sarah said, oddly calmly, without looking up from the shattered display case that a tense shift had thrown her into. “I am probably going to burst into flames in the near future.”
(Department of Redundancy Department - who are now very overworked by the load of time-loop fics. Sarah thought she was from World One. She thought she was human. And then she got chucked into a magical artifact from her homeworld, and now she's trying to balance being an Agent, being the partner of a very polyamorous Trekkie, and being a phoenix, too.)
Procedural Codes
“You should just kill her,” Nala said, not breaking eye contact with the black-clad figure in the interview cell, as her fingers itched to hold the lightsaber at her hip. “She’s Sith, it’d be a kindness.”
On the contrary, the Tiger Lily said. We’ve recruited her. Nala Sage, meet Beshaura Kell. Your new partner.
(Department of Internal Affairs - Nala Sage was a Jedi. Then she was a fugitive, then she was a DIA Agent. Now she just has to worry about not murdering her partner. Or getting murdered by her. A procedural, with lightsabers.)
Duct Tape
“I’m sorry,” Julia said, pointing across the lab, “I’m actually over there right now.” The agent turned, saw Agent Dann in profile - and in that moment, Julia ducked and scuttled under the workbench. Out of sight, out of mind, and she breathed a quiet “sorry” in the direction of her doppleganger as the agent who had been bothering her set off across the Lab in pursuit of Dann.
(Department of Sufficiently Advanced Technology! Newbie Julia takes on the multiverse, asking fun questions like “why is this broken?” and “how does that work?” and “why does this ‘Dann’ guy look just like me?”)
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So, let's see. by
on 2018-06-19 12:57:00 UTC
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I voted for Procedural Codes. It's been a long time since we had a decent look at the DIA, and with the loss of Black and Irvine's spinoff their canon is mostly appearances where they're causing way more trouble than they should for people. (I take my share of the blame in this, since Selene was I think the very first recipient of DIA harassment.) So I think this would be excellent to see - and the characters sound like a good sparking point.
For the second question, I also ticked Fish and Feathers. As (I think) the only writer for the DRD (no, I take it back; apparently someone did it way back in '05), I'd be excited to see more of it. And, again, the characters sound fun.
For the final question, I'm afraid I ticked Friday the Thirteenth as a potential problem. Time travel in HQ is... a tricky prospect, and again, I say this as culprit number one. I feel like it can work as a one-off incident (Morgan's little accident, for instance), but sustained, deliberate time travel in HQ has been wisely kept away until now. It just has too many ways to break everything - and, more to the point, too many ways that it should break everything, and would need the story to be unreasonably warped to prevent it. (A solitary example: technology which can impersonate a living being is ridiculously common across the multiverse. Therefore, if time travel is possible in HQ, someone should by now have gone back and replaced all of DAVD with holo-androids before their deaths in Crashing Down, and snuck the real agents off to hide somewhere until the present.)
I also don't like that 'thin line between HQ and Emergencies' part. 'One person protects [compact setting] from disaster every week' doesn't work very well even in more coherent settings; in the PPC, there are hundreds of people (starting with the Flowers, and running down through all the Time Lords and anyone else with temporal sensitivity) who should notice this. Would the Notary let some kid muck around in time? Would Morgan let a child do what she sees as her job, protecting HQ? Would the Flowers tolerate meddling in the PPC's already-fractured internal timeline?
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Thank you for the comments! by
on 2018-06-19 15:10:00 UTC
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I could quibble over some of your concerns with Friday, but it's also the series I have the least sense of how it should go - I like Grace as a character, but I couldn't pitch the story for the first character arc there the way I could with the others.
(It also... kinda bugs me that you, having written Morgan, are saying (paraphrased) "I don't think you should write a character who protects the PPC like Morgan"? So I'm trying to avoid responding to that bugging.)
Perhaps I've mis-pitched: I wasn't picturing the story as saving the multiverse every week, that seems like it would get old quickly. Rather, I've been thinking of Grace as a vaguely Doctorly figure; albeit one whose bailwick is centered on extradimensional and interdimensional spaces. (And in the PPC, limited by some sort of understanding/policy/Department creation at ~2008 HQST, when the hiatus on Emergencies began- Grace is one of the answers to "wait, why did things stop going terribly badly all of a sudden?")
(Additional quibbling: I guess I don't think the PPC is that small of a setting, if you think of it as a fandom rather than a single world? It seems to me that there's lots of spaces for AUs and other alternate timelines and thanks to plothole shenanigans, they probably interfere with each other far more than most more settled 'verses. I could see a mess there in need of a minder or three.)
Bleh. Please understand that I really appreciate your feedback? You've written in vaguely this space before, and I deeply respect your experience- my desire to quibble is driven far more by my feeling like I've miscommunicated the idea than that I disagree with your feedback.
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Oh, no, I wasn't saying that. by
on 2018-06-19 15:48:00 UTC
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Morgan doesn't have a monopoly on protecting the PPC - she just feels like she should. So anyone who started doing 'her job' for her would, in fairly short order, have to deal with an official visit from the Tigereye Castellan.
Which is fine if that's what you want to write (and if you get permission to borrow her, obvs); but that doesn't seem to be what you were thinking of.
My point with 'small setting' is that it sounded like you were planning on having Grace mostly move in HQ; whether you assume 1000 or 100,000 agents, that's tiny compared to the universe the Doctor is looking after. That means a roving temporal mechanic (so to speak) will either a) have very little to do, or b) be flabbergasted by the number of ways agents nearly destroy the fabric of reality, which (given the people in HQ) would lead directly to c) lots of other time travellers and the like interfering with her by trying to fix things themselves.
As to the hiatus on Emergencies... I actually graphed this a few years back, and it turned out that there wasn't really a hiatus at all. Take a look:
I'm not sure what's happened since 2015 that would qualify, but I'm certain there have been some. Just because we didn't tack the label 'Emergency' on the Blackout, for instance, doesn't mean it isn't one... :)
I still hold that time travel within HQ must be wildly dangerous; moving in a six-dimensional space that's already known to have multiple alternate timelines would be a nightmare. Your brief description for Grace's story didn't sound like it would recognise that, which is what I was responding to.
And, well... you did ask... ^_~
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Hmm, and some second thoughts. by
on 2018-06-19 15:38:00 UTC
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On the this-isn't-a-good-idea side: a potential problem with Time Gentry who specialize in HQ is that they're very hard to ignore: much like Emergencies themselves, a character who is involved in running the timeline as a whole is also involved in the timeline as a whole. And that's a thing we've been avoiding for quite a while, in favor of wanting people to write their own stuff rather than being caught up in centralized continuity.
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I mean, time travel is dangerous. by
on 2018-06-19 16:01:00 UTC
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I've written my own view of what would happen if a time traveller with access to the PPC's abilities decided they had the right to fix things; it's not pretty. Much like superheroes (hello, Injustice!), time travellers have to be limited in what they can do, or else you end up facing the simple question: why does anything go wrong? (Which is also a question that bugs religious people no end, though there are plenty of answers on that end.) That goes double - triple - when they're limited to a fairly compact group of people, and PPC HQ is smaller than a major city.
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Don't mind the "none of the above"... by
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I just wanted to see where the votes were without skewing the results, and I had to vote again to do so.
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You can actually just tweak the URL. by
on 2018-06-18 15:15:00 UTC
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At least, it works for me. Just change the bit at the end from "viewform" to "viewanalytics".
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Days. Need. More. Hours. by
on 2018-06-18 11:57:00 UTC
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I wanted to participate here much sooner.
Okay, these two are ideas who have been boiling inside my brains for a while, and would like to write someday. So I'll be writing concepts rather than the elevator pitch. I'll be happy for any comment about them (including which one you prefer, of course).
First one is a fantasy one. The itch I have in mind for now is 'Magic has been used so recklessly it savaged the world. Nine mages pulled out a ritual to bind themselves to the nine (Life, Death, Light, Darkness, Fire , Water, Earth, Air and 'High Magic') different parts of the magic 'spectrum' to stop it, becoming pretty much 'gods' in the processus. And they've to groom successors to take their place eventually, because the monitoring of this monumental energy? Not Good On Your Sanity'.
Includes (of course) at least one of the group feeling not warm and fuzzy at the idea, up to using some sorts of soul-eating demons as an army to help with that disagreement, reincarnation as a feature of the world, not (exclusively) antagonistic use of undeads, desire to build and explore at length an entire world, with culture trying to avoid the 'nation of hats' while eventually having nine major protagonists (the mentionned successors) eventually coming together to take care of the situation.
Including various actors out for their own gains, and said gods become gradually more unhinged, including cataclysms of 'wild magic' when the control slips...
Number Two is a fantasy one too. It's one less developped, by here are the ideas I kept for now. A world stuck in a tug of war between the vile 'demons' and their humans thralls and mankind, supported by the luminescent 'angels'. Protagonist ends up in problems when he shows aptitude to the demon's brand of magic, rather than the humans' elementarism or the holy magic taught by the angels, and something as a pretty surefire sign of demonic allegiance. Cue problems and story.
And eventually a nasty revelation: both demons and angels are pretty much eldritch veings waging a multi-worlds war, with the local planet being only one more battlefield, and none of them as a species (of course outliers exist) care about the local tools.
Even less because... Well, magic is pretty much an extension of the ecosystem as I see it in this setting, and while demons-controlled lands already look like the sort of wastelands they favor, the angels are crafty enough to use humans mages to soften the blow where their presence is the heaviest... Because Bleak Desert of Endless Still Order isn't that sexy of a presentation to the drafted locals liking crops of food and this sort of nice things. Meaning the big stakes become taking care of both sides of this war to make sure the humans can live their own destiny, and have a planet to live it. -
Shows up four days late with Starbucks and elavator pitches by
on 2018-06-18 05:01:00 UTC
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Talking about my WIPs while they're still WIPs is kind of anxiety-inducing for me. But it's always good to get feedback, so here goes.
The Orktili Invasion (Working title)
The architecture in Pergamia had been specifically designed to hide the fact that people lived there from the eyes of hunting dragons. This is most likely the reason the Orktili chose it as a base of operations when they came from beyond the stars.
Sci-fi and fantasy happily married, as they were always meant to be. Aliens invade a magical country ruled by a power-hungry despot. It's up to her daughter, her banished younger brother, a peasant, and a pirate to figure out why they're here and how to get rid of them.
The Adventures of Laura Davidson (Also a working title)
Laura Davidson learned her first swear word from the aspen tree across the street. Aspen Trees, as everyone knows, are foul-tempered things with no concern for Manners or Propriety or, indeed, for the Children, and as Luck would have it the only one in the neighborhood of Forthington Square was directly across the street from the house she grew up in.
Urban fantasy, inspired by all the tall tales my dad told me when I was a kid. Welcome to a world where it is possible to walk to school uphill both ways. Someone has sabotaged the Propellers that Make the Earth Go 'Round, but the only person who knows is seven-year-old Laura Davidson and no one believes her.
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Please write one of these. I don't care which. by
on 2018-06-18 21:16:00 UTC
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Although I love the Laura Davidson concept just that little bit more.
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Thank you! I'm flattered! by
on 2018-06-20 15:22:00 UTC
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I fully intend to write both sooner or later, but we'll see if it works out.
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I love science fantasy! by
on 2018-06-18 17:55:00 UTC
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The main planet my Cycle of Worlds pitch is set on has basically space elves... except they look like four-armed lizardmen. But still, magitech is so much fun, and the idea of your first pitch kind of reminds me of the premise of Cowboys and Aliens... wild west meets sci-fi. Mashups like that are just a blast.
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Me too! by
on 2018-06-20 15:18:00 UTC
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That sounds pretty fun. And hey, aliens that aren't basically humans with wacky hair and/or squiggly lines on their faces! That's always a plus.
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You had me at... by
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... 'aliens invade a magical country'. ^_^
Though that first line for Laura Davidson is spectacular.
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Fun! by
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I voted for The Adventures of Laura Davidson, because 10/10 I would read it. It sounds adorable and funny and heart-warming.
Orktili sounds pretty cool too, to be honest! I'm just more wary, since I haven't seen fantasy and sci-fi happily married yet. If you can do it well, though, good for you and I would absolutely read it! -
Thanks! by
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I'm glad you like The Adventures of Laura Davidson. It's something of a recent idea, so it's not properly formed yet, so I'm glad it's coming out coherent now.
As for sci-fi and fantasy, I've seen good sci-fi with fantastic elements (Homestuck is a good example), and once or twice I've run across a reasonably seamless meshing of the two. (The title escapes me but I read a book as a child about an interplanetary coalition that developed supernatural powers and used them to keep planets on a natural developmental path.) What I have never seen, however, is a solid fantasy base with sci-fi applied well to it. So naturally I set out to fill in the perceived gap in the fictional library.
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Notices twenty seconds late that I misspelled "elevator" (nm) by
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Ooh, I like this. I want to do this soon! (nm) by
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A few ideas, nothing concrete enough for this activity. by
on 2018-06-14 23:11:00 UTC
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So I made my 20k goal for my 2009 NaNo, but it doesn't have a title. It's the story of how the king's gadabout second son finds his calling as a military leader and saves the kingdom from invasion (yay!), but also gets stuck having to be king (boo!). Oh, and along the way he made a deal with a mysterious old man to put in a good word for him with the king in exchange for critical information about the invasion. I'm sure it's fine.
This is a prequel to the main events.
There was a bee on the windowpane. It buzzed ineffectually against the green glass, apparently unconcerned with the distorted image of the world beyond; only drawn to the light.
Apparently I started a story in the main plot for a 2011 NaNo, but forgot about it. Seriously, when I opened the file, I thought it was going to be something else. I have no memory of writing the thing it actually is. It has a title, but it wouldn't be the book's title, so eh.
Snow swirled down from the heights of the mountain peaks, driving through the gaps between peak-roofed houses in the tiny village of Finleen huddled below and gathering in drifts against crosswise walls. Through the dark, icy winter air, a baby's wail arose from one of the houses, cutting through the low moaning of pine trees in the wind.
(Dear god, that run-on. Ow.)
The something else isn't a novel. Probably it's a chapter in the same book as the 2011 thing. Again, there's a title, but not one I'd actually be using. Eh.
The celebration of the Spring Equilux, which marked the end of winter and the beginning of the new year, was always an important event in the divided kingdoms of the north, and none prided themselves on their festival more than Wickham.
... I think I'm bad at first lines. And titles.
All that stuff is in the same world, anyway. It's middleweight fantasy—there is magic, but it's not abundant; some fantasy creatures like elves, vampires, and dragons exist, but they're part of the natural world and obey meta-physiological rules. The Powers That Be are just another order of being (but some of them have big heads about it).
And I have no idea how it all fits together. Plot? Hahahaha. Ha.
A couple other ideas I've toyed with, but haven't put any serious work into:
Moon magic
Modern fantasy. People are born with magic at various power levels according to location and phases of the four moons. Heather arrives in the right place at the right time to be the biggest magical deal in about two thousand years. As she comes into her power, all the major magical/political players want to control her, but she has to deal with the reccurrence of a major lunar alignment that spells big trouble for the world if she can't learn what she needs in time. Fortunately, there's an eccentric but endearing guy with a foreign accent who says he knows what's going on and can help! I'm sure nothing bad will happen to him.
Supernatural SWAT team
What it says on the tin. Badass normal newbies Sophia Hue Phan and Tim Gurney join established team members Joe Donovan (a vampire) and Ban MacCormac (a werewolf); have to deal with witches, hackers, and confusing but steamy relationship polyhedrons. I dunno, I'm pretty sure I just wanted to make up pretty people with cool names.
No vote, because seriously, there's nothing to vote on. I'll let you know if I actually work out a decent plot for any of these at any point.
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*Ding* The elevator is here by
on 2018-06-14 21:39:00 UTC
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Just a heads up, it's not gonna be a wide variety of genres. Or... ideas for that matter of fact. I'm a one-trick pony unfortunately, and it's a matter of picking the most interesting idea:
Number Thirteen, Zauber Street
You do NOT want to visit this house... unless you're mad, desperate, or somewhere in-between.
A ragtag bunch of miscellaneous magic users and a collection of stories about their odd-jobs. Featuring: a junkie shaman, an African Spider God, a Russian witch, an androgynous empath, etc.
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Cerberus
Like the Hound of the Underworld, we stand guard so that no filth escape their settlements.
Once again, urban fantasy. This time using the principle of Three Ms: Magic, Murder, Mystery. Cops, guns, investigations, vampires, monsters and shapeshifters.
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The Hunters/The Magicians
This one is tricky, as it's two series set in the same universe. So, I'm gonna kinda cheat and summarize both:
- St. George Hunting Company revolves around professional monster hunters and their inner scandals
- The Baskerville Society is the magicians' cabal answering directly to the Queen of England
Let's see if <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEJA7s29KxPGi6RcdIravIa0nZF0D6vV4ktgprvmH50MxHQ/viewform?usp=sf_link">THIS LINK works -
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The Bone Man
In a small back room, cool against the heat and dimming out the harsh afternoon sun, the doctor cracked his knuckles and went to perform a miracle.
Urban fantasy. A young Ten-Pound Pom girl in 1950s Australia is training as a nurse under a Reiki practitioner and osteopath. These quack medical practices... actually work as advertised. Think Harry Potter meets Call The Midwife with a healthy dash of cosmic horror.
The Little Old Man From Number 22
Well, there goes the neighbourhood.
Horror fantasy. Two alternating viewpoints in a small corner of slowly-gentrifying Deptford: one a serial runaway teenage girl who's been adopted by a hipster couple with something to hide, and the other a little old man who's been there forever. Literally. One of them's the villain. It's not her.
Fleabag
My sister's cat has filled the entire bloody house with fleas.
Zombie apocalypse story with a difference: this time we experience it from the point of view of Patient Zero in the outbreak. What does zombification really mean? How does it affect your life? Aside from, y'know. The obvious.
International Klein Blue
You're looking at a blue rectangle mounted on a wall and you're thinking "My kid could do that" or "How is this art?" or variations on a theme of fatuous closed-minded martinetry.
Combination Lovecraftian cosmic horror and... art history lecture? Sophie's World for the horror genre and modern art movement combined. Formless beings and strange old men and what we have to do to survive.
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Let me guess your favourite genre. ^_~ by
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I've voted for The Bone Man, because it's a) least horrifying, and b) interesting! I also know Kaitlyn would like it.
I also find IKB interesting based on the summary - anything that's described as 'Sophie's World for...' is going to catch my eye. :)
As for The Words of the Voice, I see (by way of Wikipedia) what you're getting at. The difference is that The Words... is presented as an actual body of ancient myth - just with a scientific basis. The oldest deities are incarnations of things like the expansion of the universe, gravity, light, chemical bonding and so forth. Later on we run into the more human-centric gods, at which point we drift away from science a bit and into sheer myth: there's not a lot of science in the extended adventures of Dyfais queen of Brenin, for all that she technically founds the Bronze Age.
Look, I did say it was weird.
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Alrighty, let's try this. by
on 2018-06-14 04:38:00 UTC
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So... I don't really do novels; I've tried, and I can't write good descriptive language for the life of me. However, I can draw, so my goal is to get a graphic novel published eventually!
I'm only working on one at the moment, so there's no need for a survey, but it'd be really nice to hear if people are interested in the concept or not.
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The Maelstrom Trio
I'm starting to see why no one wants this job. I mean, it's not like it's not fun to get beat up by demons on a daily basis, but I certainly don't get paid enough for it.
Urban fantasy/comedy. On an Earth where magic and monsters have been a fixture of life from the beginning, G.U.A.R.D. ensures that normal people get the protection they need. Details the misadventures of three G.U.A.R.D. agents - a mild-mannered magician, a trashy and foul-mouthed elf, and a human woman as good at kicking butt as she is at keeping the other two from killing each other - as they do their best to protect their assigned neighborhood from assorted heinous monstrosities while trying to deal with life, each other, and the friendly tentacles they can't seem to evict from the kitchen sink. -
I like this! by
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It sounds like you've got a good, solid foundation for a world here. I'm biased, as well, because I really enjoy episodic almost sitcommy stories that are still fantasy or sci-fi. I hope you go through with this! I'd read it.
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I'm honored! by
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Thank you for telling me that! Motivation is often hard to come by, so it's really nice to hear something like that said in no uncertain terms.
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I like the "friendly tentacles they can't seem to evict from the kitchen sink" - I think it does a good job communicating a feel for this world. Is there an overarching plot growing behind their various misadventures or is it more of a series of episodic stories?
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I'm glad you liked the tentacles! There is not an overarching plot, at the moment, but I have a few ideas that I could develop more.
Glad you asked! G.U.A.R.D. stands for Guardians against Unseemly Atrocities and Relics Division. It's rather unwieldy, but it is what it says it is, and guarding is what they do, so I think it works (?). -
Ah, what the heck, I'll give it a go. by
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Truth be told I've barely even started most of these projects, but I think they're the most likely to go anywhere if I ever actually apply myself to writing a proper novel.
The Bastion Walls
The sun beat down, the Walls rose up, and six sets of hoofbeats drummed out a canter on the red desert sands
Fantasy. A bright young dragoon captain, one of the few survivors of the Eight Bastion, must set musket ball and sabre against demon fangs and claws, and lead his men to safety.
The New London Paranatural Society
For the first time in forty years, Gregory Allen Fielding stood beneath a silver sun, and found nothing.
Urban Fantasy-ish. Just about every myth and monster exists, they just left. Their world's the High Road, our world's the Low Road, but you probably won't end up in Scotland if you follow that first one. Sort of like Van Helsing in the 1800s, only with harmonica rifles and Werewolves in waistcoats.
H.O.M.E. Away from Home
Something's following us, I'm sure of it. I'm going to prove it, I'm going to catch it, and who knows, maybe this will finally convince my boss to give me a raise?
Soft sci-fi. A gunner on a rundown space station is sure she's spotted something moving in the dark, and she's fairly certain human ships don't have quite so many tentacles.
The Bloody HarvestI haven't actually got an opening line for this one shhhh
Fantasy, with some horror/mystery thrown in. A man seeking to marry science and magic moves to the village of Orchran Hills to pursue his craft in peace, but when he's framed for murder and black magic, he finds there may be more to the small town than he hoped.
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Now, as for your pitches, I was really torn between the first two. I like the sound of the Kraken-Knights setting, but The Next Great Wizard won out. It just seems like the kind of story that appeals to me. That "Or is that just me?" Bit at the end of the first line just grabbed me.
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Your stories all sound awesome by
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I mean, I voted for The Bastion Walls, simply because I'm a sucker for very personal epic fantasy, but all your other books sounded fabulously entertaining and engrossing. I'd like to see any and all of these on bookstore shelves!
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Well thank you very much! by
on 2018-06-15 20:52:00 UTC
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I'm glad you like them, The Bastion Walls especially, as it's sort of my flagship project. It's basically my love letter to military history and fiction wrapped up in fantasy trappings. A bit niche, perhaps, but it works for me.
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As I feared, link is borked. This one should work. by
on 2018-06-13 22:45:00 UTC
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You know, what, sure! Elevator pitches! by
on 2018-06-13 19:00:00 UTC
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(The Nanovels I have no longer hold my interest, so these are actually just ideas I have bouncing around, some of which I've done some writing on, some of which I have not.)
And It Goes All the Way Down
The elevator shaft in the heart of Brinten Complex is four square meters of empty space, and it goes all the way down.
Soft sci-fi. Brinten is a Class-III city planet that has just been unified by a relentless warlord. At least, the top one hundred levels have been unified--no one really knows how deep the city goes. Lord Asher is eager to find out.
Invincibility Isn't As Fun As It Sounds
My name is actually "Bulwark," but everyone calls me "Chump Block."
Superheroes. Lux City was supposed to be an international utopia, where anyone could live and prosper in peace. Unfortunately, the supervillains took over a long time ago.
Congratulations, You've Been Abducted!
"Unidentified ship, this is Ensign Mary Starwright of the Archimedes University of Galactic Navigation, aboard the Greenspire 221. Please state your name, origin, and intent."
Soft sci-fi. A promising starship captain is abducted--to be a contestant on an intergalactic game show.
Should I Major in Chemistry, or Alchemy?
Student loans almost got me killed by a dragon.
Fantasy. In an effort to pay for her degree, Jamie takes a summer job as a housekeeper in a secluded Highlands mansion. When she arrives, she finds out that the owner of the mansion is actually an alchemist, and she's looking for an apprentice.
Which one, which one?
By the way, I put down The Kraken-Knights, but it was a very close tie between that and The Next Great Wizard, and honestly, I like the sound of all your pitches. I would read any (or all) of them.
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Fascinating ideas all 'round. by
on 2018-06-19 18:37:00 UTC
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But my vote goes to Alchemy or Chemistry. I really love And It Goes All the Way Down, it's got a great sense of mystery to it, but I just can't say no to a college student interacting with dragons and alchemy and the like, especially in Scotland.
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Siiiiilence, we hunt for the Queen! by
on 2018-06-15 21:07:00 UTC
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Nobody? Ronnie James Dio? The King of Metal?
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"Killing the Dragon"! I was referencing the dragon attack from Should I Major in Chemistry, or Alchemy? for which I voted!
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I'm similarly ambivalent with yours. by
on 2018-06-13 19:46:00 UTC
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I checked And It Goes All The Way Down; that's a fantastic first line, and the concept is exciting. But I also love Chemistry or Alchemy?, because... well, I'm a chemist, and there should be more chemist protagonists (even if they're alchemists). ^_^
It also sounds a bit like the Magician's House quartet, which I loved growing up. So it gets bonus points for that.
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*cracks knuckles* by
on 2018-06-13 18:35:00 UTC
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Here are a couple of the different stories that I've worked on, or am working on.
One of them actually did get picked up by a local publisher, but they went out of business and I never got to see it come to fruition. Can you guess which one? :P
I only have three to offer, rather than five. Sorry!
The Pureblades (Urban fantasy)
What happens when you gain magic that was never yours to begin with?
A young boy learns his older sister is a member of a group that hunts demons, and joins as well, taking what was rightfully his best friend's place.
The Cycle of Worlds (...Fourth-wall breaking humor? Is there a genre for that?)
So, yeah, you died. And the author's gotten lazy and decided your role is to save the multiverse from a megalomaniacal tyrant. Have fun!
When people die, their souls are ferried across the boundaries of reality by Death to be reborn as an entirely new species on a completely different planet. Most people don't remember their past lives, but a rare handful do.
Neither Heir nor There (portal fantasy is the right term, hS?)
This is why you don't put children in charge of Mac Guffins.
Two friends had a sleepover as children. One of them lost an amulet that had been passed down through the family. Years later, long after falling out of touch, the other found the amulet, just in time to get kidnapped into a fantasy world and proclaimed the heir to a world-saving power.
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It was a tough choice, but I went for Neither Heir nor There by
on 2018-06-18 14:58:00 UTC
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The Pureblades sounds right up my alley, and Cycle of Worlds seems like a riot, but the whole childhood sleepover lost MacGuffin idea is just too charming for me to resist. Plus, I have a soft spot for the reluctant/accidental hero type.
Also the title. The title is just great.
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You guessed right. :) by
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I pitched the idea at a panel back in middle school, so honestly, it’s probably for the best the publisher went out of business. Can you imagine the sort of dreck I might’ve put out? :P I really do love the idea, though, so one day... one day.
The Heir one is just an idea I’ve made a few notes on at the moment, but I just really love the idea of the Chosen One never actually getting chosen and some poor schmuck gets stuck in their place. ;) -
Yes, called it! by
on 2018-06-19 19:07:00 UTC
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It does sound like a really fun idea, but I can definitely understand being thankful for a youthful endeavor being kept out of the wider world. In fact, I just watched a video on that same subject. It's quite amusing.
It really does seem a lovely subversion of the whole "child of destiny" shtick. It reminds me of something, too, but I can't for the life of me remember what. -
...Well, this is interesting. by
on 2018-06-17 06:58:00 UTC
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So far, it's an even split between all three. That doesn't help my decision on which one to work on, but at least I know people are interested! :P
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You noticed that too? by
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At one point my pie graph was a perfectly quartered circle!
It's actually shaken out a little now, with a clear preference for Kraken Knights, and a slightly smaller contingent supporting Gravity's Embrace (and frankly I agree with the majority here that those are the best two ^_^), but it's still not the strong 'one of these is great' result I was expecting.
Which is good! And is also the reason I started the thread! :D
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As much as I love
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Cool! by
on 2018-06-14 05:26:00 UTC
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I feel like The Pureblades could be everything I love about the Shadowhunter Chronicles, minus the clunky fanfiction-esque writing, and I can't wait to see it be published sometime! That being said, The Cycle of Worlds sounded like a complete blast as well.
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Clarification: by
on 2018-06-13 17:11:00 UTC
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Is the summary for Gravity's Embrace suggesting that the spaceship itself is approaching him? That's the impression I'm getting, anyway.
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Kind of! by
on 2018-06-13 19:40:00 UTC
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Pilots from New Etruria and the Celtic League (among other nations) essentially act as their ships' computers; for the duration of their service, they are treated as identical with their ships. It's all a bit weird. ;)
So yes, NES Areatha is both a human and a spaceship.
hS
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OT: A Germanic language isolated to a small town in Poland by
on 2018-06-17 03:25:00 UTC
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This here's an interesting article about Wymysorys/Wilamowicean, a West Germanic language spoken in basically one down in Poland, and its history/the culture.
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this seems familiar by
on 2018-06-17 13:08:00 UTC
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I'm reminded of the Basque language.
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That's a slightly different situation by
on 2018-06-17 16:48:00 UTC
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in that Basque doesn't have a linguistic connection to any other European language, while Wymysorys is a branch of West Germanic.
But yeah, that's a cool thing to link.
(On a trivial meta note, could I ask why you start your subject lines with lowercase letters?)
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it's slightly faster (nm) by
on 2018-06-18 01:58:00 UTC
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It's also something you shouldn't do by
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at least in Standard Written English.
On the minor variation that is Typical Forum English. -
Ok (nm) by
on 2018-06-19 02:54:00 UTC
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That was me. (nm) by
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A final goodbye, some parting words and a few announcements by
on 2018-06-17 21:21:00 UTC
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Okay, I know, I had already said I was leaving long time ago, but at the same time it wasn't a properly "final" goodbye as I kept posting chapters of my spinoff's final story.
However, that's what I wanted to talk about. For those who don't know it, I've decided to leave in the aftermath of some really nasty Board drama about one year ago, and I'd leave it at that - especially since a person who doesn't want anything to do anymore with the PPC was involved.
I had hoped things would get better by the time I was done with Blank Sprite, but they didn't - every time I posted a new chapter, I would always find drama going on or drama would pop up right afterwards.
And, of course, that would drown out my releases. The last chapter of Blank Sprite just fell off the Board, with only one person commenting on it, and the other chapters didn't fare much better. And that despite the fact that I know the quality was there - I've had very positive comments from my beta readers, most of them I believe are among the PPC's best (several being even Permission Givers or people who were nominated for the position).
It is disheartening. I've started working on Blank Sprite around 2012 - that is a six years effort, a 77.000 words story (yup, enough for it to qualify as a novel) with possibly hundreds of hours spent working on it. I've strived so much for quality that I even had an old time friend of mine, now working as a professional editor, have a look at it despite the fact that usually we didn't agree on writing matters, just for the sake of seeing if there was anything I could do better.
And this just for one comment for the final chapter while people were eager to throw themselves on the last 'bout of drama.
Okay, I now probably sound like a sour fanbrat, but that's something that saddens me. I did improve a lot as a writer while working on it, that's right, but was it any different than writing for the drawer at this point?
That is why I want to officially say that my PPC spinoffs are officially over. Not only the main Wings Of Canon one, but Keiko's spinoff as well - I'll update the pages accordingly.
While I had Keiko's fourth mission in the works, I'm thinking finishing it might not be worth the time and effort if it is going to end up not being read as Blank Sprite was - I could be using that time and effort for my book instead.
And... yes. I'm working on a fully original book of mine. The plot and characters will be loosely based on that of Blank Sprite (can't let all that work go to waste, right?), but otherwise it will be a new story. It won't have, for obvious reasons, "Sergio Turbo" on the cover, but if any of you will ever get it in their hands and read it they will probably notice.
So... that's it, pretty much. Goodbye guys and gals, it has been an honor but this place isn't working for me anymore. I wish all the best for the community, as I'm saddened to see a lot of drama going on - that is not the PPC I knew, and I hope it will be back to the way it was.
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I have said all along that I intend to read this, and I will by
on 2018-06-19 09:16:00 UTC
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Now, in fact. I'm going to review as I go along, so watch this space.
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Thank you. by
on 2018-06-19 19:15:00 UTC
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I'm writing this as you were three chapters in, and I'm very glad you're liking it.
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Blank Sprite: Chapter 1 review. by
on 2018-06-19 09:59:00 UTC
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I was a bit dubious to start with - Blank Sprite is way outside my usual canons - but the story does a good job of filling me in on what's going on. It provides just enough information about the canons to support the story, without going into an encyclopaedia article.
Actually, the place where the description gets a bit overwrought is the agents. Lines like Nikki's response to Anne about the Vanguard:
“Yes. It works really well, and my magic stopped changing randomly[...] well, I still became a mermaid a couple of times while I was bathing, but I think you did a great job anyway!”
... have a bit too much of an 'as you know, Bob' feel to them at times. Something of the kind was necessary, I think, but possibly not this blatantly.
The story itself is good, and I like the way it's slowly unfolding. We start on a mission, then slip into something that sounds like a Jurisfiction story - and then the Factories rear their head. It all builds up quite neatly, and hints at more to come.
(Yes, there will probably be 15 separate review posts; I'm sneaking this in between pieces of work.)
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Chapter 2 review. by
on 2018-06-19 12:24:00 UTC
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This chapter starts out light and easy - too easy. The fact that Sergio and Nikki are able to get exactly what they're looking for sets off all sorts of alarm bells (and it's good to see that the agents are genre-savvy enough to pick up on that!).
And then... action sequence! I think this was really well-written, and I say that as someone who has great difficulty writing action. :) It serves to increase the dissonance between the idea that the Factories are behind this, and the actual events we're seeing. I'm glad I saved this all to read at once, because I'd hate to get caught in cliffhangers down the line.
You also continue to build the background suspense over what the heck is up with Sergio's history. I'm really looking forward to getting that one answered. :)
Favourite line: “… We are being shipped by canons?"
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Chapter 3 review. by
on 2018-06-19 14:14:00 UTC
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Once again, I feel like I'm in a stealth Jurisfiction crossover - and that's not a bad thing! New ways of looking at the multiverse are always welcome.
Interestingly, for all that this is a very action-packed chapter, it feels much more personal. This chapter is very much focussed on Sergio's strangeness; we see it through pretty much everyone's eyes. The equally strange goings-on (and do I feel a time loop forming?) take second place, and the action, for all that it's well-written, comes in third. It's a well-written chapter, with good storytelling technique.
Favourite line: What was she? A fairy with an Internet connection?
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Chapter 4 review. by
on 2018-06-21 14:40:00 UTC
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Okay, the navigational mishap made me smile. ^_^
I'm constantly appreciative of the details from PPC history you bring into this story. NASTY may only be a footnote to the tale, but they're something that Corolla should have turned up, so I'm pleased that she did.
Some of the emotions in the latter half of this chapter don't ring quite true with me, but partly that could simply be that I don't know the canon characters. Sergio comes across as more believable than them, so I'm inclined to go with that explanation.
Favourite line: [Couldn’t someone have taken her rifle and copied her handwriting?] Corolla wondered. Sensible!Corolla is best Corolla.
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Chapter 5 review. by
on 2018-06-21 15:36:00 UTC
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In my head I have this pegged as The Flashback Episode, and because of that I've got half an eye open for Chekhovs. I'm assuming on general principles that every single person mentioned is going to come back up; that's just how this sort of thing goes. ^_^
Sergio talks at times here like he's regurgitating a prologue, and I don't think that's accidental. It makes perfect sense to me that a character telling their own backstory would drift into a more narrative tone; it's a mild case of Tom Bombadil way back in Suedom, who could only speak in his canonical lines.
I deeply appreciate the girls' eminently sensible behaviour - when confronted with a question that could be answered by a CAD, Nikki goes right to pulling out a CAD, and when there are questions outstanding, Corolla does the research and forms a viable theory. There's no plot-forced artificial stupidity here.
Favourite line: [We kinda have a bigger problem to deal with here, and angsting won’t solve anything. And the problem is: what the heck is up with this mission?]
... it is possible that Corolla is my favourite character so far.
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I'm glad you liked this chapter. by
on 2018-06-24 10:23:00 UTC
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Chapter 5 was the one I had the most doubts with - it is basically Sergio's backstory narrated by him in a single sitting so I was afraid it could be too infodumpy. I'm happy this is not the case.
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Chapter 6 review. by
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Chapter 6
The moment with the song at the start of this chapter is really sweet. I like the fact that the agents clearly show their affection for the various canons, without descending into fangirling of the sort shown by even Jay and Acacia. It fits their characters nicely.
I also like how Nikki's feelings for Sergio come across, particularly in her conversation with Homura. It helps that she's right in what she says, of course.
... and then the plot - the real plot, the one about 'what in the worlds is going on with Sergio' - kicks into high gear. In true traditional fashion, I have little to say about this part, because I'm too busy reading it. ^_^ I absolutely love the way you framed the middle of this chapter, though. And the ending... gulp!
Favourite line:
[Time wasn’t supposed to elapse in your world afterward in relation to the PPC’s standard time. Or something. Multidimensional physics are kinda confusing.]
“… I’m still trying to understand that I’m a fictional character whose life is written by someone else, actually,” Homura admitted.
“Well, as of now, nobody is writing us,” Nikki reassured her.
“You sure, Nikki?” Sergio asked. “Maybe that 14 year-old idiot who wrote me back in 2006 is still at it.”
This sort of thing perfectly bottles all four characters and their relations to each other. It's brilliant.
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Chapter 7 review. by
on 2018-06-25 12:33:00 UTC
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"Guido Piano". XD
Did... did Sergio just get attacked by a flashback? Okay, this definitely feeds into the theme that the closer he gets to his previous life, the more that life will try to take him over. I like the fact that it's a subtle theme, rather than a big in-your-face thing.
And, hooray! Corolla in person! :D And an absolutely cliche scene which knows full well it's a cliche, and delights in it.
Favourite line: [Homura Akemi. Puella Magi Madoka Magica canon cha— Wait a minute, how did you get hold of me and why are you scanning yourself?] Snarky CADs come just after sensible Corolla on my list of favourites. :D
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Chapter 8 review. by
on 2018-06-28 10:38:00 UTC
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Ha, Sergio's timeline manipulations are hilarious. ^^ And Corolla's are nice and sneaky.
I like the mismatched furniture. I also like the fact that the girls still don't care about Sergio's past (in a good way): it's clear he wants to be all angsty about it, but Corolla in particular is having none of that.
In fact, in general it's great to have Corolla in the field at last. She's great. ^^ The whole snowmobile scene was brilliant, and her interactions later in the chapter are building nicely both the stories of the overall quest, and of Sergio's personal arc.
Favourite line: “I’m still going to do my best. I’m not accepting a Bad End for you two, I’m aiming for the Perfect Golden Ending!” Corolla is a dedicated shipper. ^_^
... I will probably talk less about Corolla from here on out. Maybe. No promises.
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Goodbye then... by
on 2018-06-18 07:22:00 UTC
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It really saddens me that you're leaving this place for good (and while I'm using it, and had RPs, RPGs and other things on it, when I look at the drama it spawned and Boarders it made leave... Is Discord worth it?)...
Sorry for not reacting more about Blank Sprite (And I was feeling similar feelings when I posted my missions... Pot? Kettle called. He said you're black.). I've been reading the whole story, and fully intends to post a C&C of the final chapter on the site... but Real Life has been getting busy with job searching lately (Welp, eight monthes of being jobless, but things quickened up in June), and I have at least three other C&C for other stories I've been following are on the backburner too. And I'll join your beta-readers, the story is an excellent one.
And I'd very much want to read Teiko's fourth lission myself. And I'm sure other on this Board would want to.
I'll also gladly read that original book, and would really hope I won't miss when it's published.
Duck I hated when the goodbyes began when you left, I hate them as much now. Still, good luck for the future.
P.S.: For the drama... Really? I know I tend to avoid it when it seems like boiling, but every time... I hoped te situation was getting better. -
And the C&C is now done. by
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Posted it on Blank Sprite 15. To people here, read the story, it's so worth it.
Goodbye again, I guess, and thanks for the help on that one Madoka trollfic i missionned... -
Thnak you for your review. by
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Though I'm kinda puzzled by how you keep calling Keiko "Teiko"...
Anyways, since you seem to also like Josh as a character, I shall point you to where he's from:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/560180/
Yup, he's a canon character. With a catch: the one featured in Blank Sprite is an alternate universe version authorized (and checked before publishing) by the game's developer himself, as we've been friends for a while.
The proof? Once you reach a certain level, you're forced to use the extended roster characters instead of the main team. Scroll down to Stubborn Mongoose, I bet he'll be very familiar... -
... I was offering you a mini as a farewell gift? by
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(Dang, and yet I didn't read something with a Teiko in recently, and worst, I had Keiko's name right in the same review, so how I end up doing this...)
Yeah, Stubborn Mongoose is ringing some bells... The bandana, I think (Saw him on the presentation video for now. Playing the game just joined y list of things to do...). -
Goodbye, this is why I don't use the discord. (nm) by
on 2018-06-18 02:00:00 UTC
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Discord in general is deserving of its name. (nm) by
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Well-played. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 02:17:00 UTC
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... *tosses golden apple* (nm) by
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Give me that and I'll make you ruler of the PPC. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 11:10:00 UTC
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No no, clearly the wisest course would be to give it to me. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 14:28:00 UTC
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I'm hot. Gimme. (nm) by
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Let's weigh the options. by
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1) If I valued wisdom in the slightest, I would not be holding this apple right now. Sorry, Neshthena.
2) Kinging is cool. So, maybe Herasoron.
3) Scaphrodite is definitely hot. Can't argue with the logic there.
Final decision: If Scaphrodite can throw in Helen of Sparta, we've got a deal. I mean, pissing off the Spartans has never gone wrong, and that chick has serious resting boat-face.
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Uh... what about if I offered to let you rule them too? That would include Helen, obviously...
I mean, personally, given the presence of multiverally-aware goddesses, I would've gone for a bigger name than Helen. Luthien, maybe?
((... does this mean I'm now roleplaying Lesbian Hera? ~hS)) -
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In return for your gift, I can in return gift you with the wisdom to conquer your enemies swiftly, rule your subjects prosperously, and woo the lady fair, too, if that's what you're into.
How do you think I got where I am, eh? Waving a big stick and batting your eyelashes are well and good, but only if you're smart enough to pick the best time to do it.
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... I'm still the hot one. Gimme. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 17:36:00 UTC
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/shoves Nesh at you instead by
on 2018-06-21 23:13:00 UTC
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/deliberate misinterpretation of what you wanted to be given, activate!
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Even though the Shipfest has been and gone I'll allow it. =] (nm by
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Now I picture Zeus and Hera trying to woo the same woman... by
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Some people would say that line of thinking has run to its end. I think this trainwreck needs to continue. For science.
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Oh, you would not believe the stories I have. by
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Those Greeks were so ashamed, they tried to write me - me! - out of the official mythstories, and when they couldn't quite manage that - hello, Queen of Olympos here! - they cast me as the jealous-slash-murderous abandoned wife instead.
Io? Io was mine, my very own priestess, until that husband of mine pulled his cow-transformation trick. Ha! He'd have been better trying that on Europa; she would have appreciated it, unlike my poor Io.
Danae? Mine. Okay, yes, I encouraged her father to keep her safe, but wouldn't you? Women in these murder prophecies never end well.
Leda? Mine, until Zeus got his swan on. Why do you think I was so against Scaphrodite's Helen plot? The girl was practically my daughter!
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Desperate/Sick attempts to one-up you? by
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It paints the relationship between you in a so screwed-up way, even beyond the 'official version'...
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Well, you asked for it. by
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Ixion and Dia
Ixion was a son of Phlegyas the Lapith king, and of his wife who no-one bothered to name. Typical, isn't it? Anyway, Ixion agreed to marry Dia, daughter of Eioneus, promising rich bridal gifts and inviting Eioneus to a banquet. You'll note that he didn't invite Dia, or even speak to her. Again - typical.
Of course, it turned out that Ixion had no intention of paying the bribe he was offering Dia's dad. He set a pitfall in front of his palace, with a great charcoal fire underneath, into which the unsuspecting Eioneus fell and was burned.
(The gods, of course, receive sacrifices through burning; I have it on good authority that a certain someone whose name rhymes with Blapollo was heartily sick after sniffing this one.)
Though every woman on Olympos thought this a heinous deed, and refused to purify Ixion, Zeus, having 'behaved equally ill himself when in love' (yes, that's an actual quote; some of these mythtellers are on my side), not only purified the wretch but brought him to eat at his table.
I - sorry, Hera, the divine Queen of Heaven, absolutely refused to share a meal with that beast. Luckily, she had Nephele, a cloud-form that she used for... certain... recreational purposes; it was a simple matter to transform it to look like herself, and send it to the meal in her stead.
The Queen then paid a visit to poor Dia. With her father dead, and her husband an outlawed, abusive sociopath, she was in sore need of comfort, and Hera was happy to oblige.
Things were going exceedingly well, when suddenly there was a clattering of hooves. Barely had Hera hidden herself behind a pillar when a horse cantered in, twenty hands tall, crowned with lightning, and very obviously a stallion, if you take my meaning. Poor Dia was caught entirely unprepared, and, well, there are none who can stand between Zeus the Thunderer and his desires.
Yes, Zeus, realising that Ixion's presence on Olympos had left his beautiful wife alone, had sculpted his own, inferior cloud-form and snuck down to the mortal realm to have his way with her. I know the Zeus-cloud was inferior, because a quality cloud-image would never have allowed what happened at the high table.
Ixion, obviously, was utterly ungrateful of his undeserved honours, and planned to seduce Hera. Being completely without a functioning brain, he did this with only the barest attempt at subtlety, and there was no-one in the great temple who didn't know what was going on.
Yes, they all allowed this mortal to outright assault the Queen of Heaven, and yes, very harsh words were had on my - sorry, her - return. The cloud Nephele was built to be receptive to such advances, but someone should have done something. Not least any properly-designed Zeus-cloud - you'd think 'protect my wife' would be priority number one!
Zeus returned midway through the disgraceful ocurrance, leaving poor Dia an utter emotional wreck. Luckily she had a kind goddess to hand to offer her comfort... meanwhile, Zeus surprised Ixion in the very act of his defilement, and promptly claimed that it had all been part of his master plan. It's amazing how often he does that.
The Thunderer ordered Hermes to scourge the mortal mercilessly, and then bind him to a fiery wheel which rolled ceaselessly through the sky thereafter, which frankly was better than he deserved. Poor Nephele was banished to earth before Hera could get back; she bore him a child by the name of Centaurus, who was ultimately the father of Chiron. Then she married a king, got thrown over for a maenad, ended up running a taxi service with flying golden sheep... look, it was all a bit of a mess.
As for Dia? Unlike her fickle husband, Hera is always faithful to her lovers. Once everything had blown over, and Dia had found someone to look after her son by Zeus, Pirithous (lovely boy, not very lucky though), the merciful and just Queen of Heaven spirited her away to the courts of Olympos. A little light cosmetic surgery, and she passed for one of the many nymphs who populate the place. No-one would take the slightest notice of just another nymph heading towards Hera's private quarters... ahem.
((With sincere apologies to Robert Graves, author of The Greek Myths, whose text has been thoroughly mangled for this purpose. ~hS)) -
Robert Graves was himself a man with some weird ideas. (nm) by
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What, you mean... by
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... every single Greek myth ever wasn't about the ancient practice of sacrificing your king all the time? Huh, who'd'a thunk it? ^_~
Yeah, he's weird, and his prose is kind of terse and dull. But it's the only complete telling of the Greek myths I've got to hand, so.
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on 2018-06-23 03:04:00 UTC
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I would give Thomas Bulfinch's "Mythology" and Edith Hamilton's "Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes" a try, though the latter has Heracles-Bashing. It casts him as a big, dumb, brute, even though he demonstrated cleverness on many occasions.
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A fun intro... by
on 2018-06-26 10:48:00 UTC
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is D'Aulaire's Greek Myths. It has really wonderful pictures, and covers a lot of the stories. It glosses over a lot of the more messed up sexual stuff to make it kid friendly, although it did include the guy mating with a cloud to somehow produce centaurs, so clearly didn't skip over all of it.
My youngest kid's school program introduces the book as a read aloud with flashcards of the important bits in 3rd grade and then again in 4th with more writing involved. My kid is spelling challenged, so no idea how I am going get him spelling things like Hephaestus this next year.
They sell it in paperback, but it's one I'd recommend getting in hard cover, it's a keeper. They have a D'Aulaire's Norse Myths, too.
My oldest second's Bulfinch's for more mature readers. -
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There is a point where we needed to stop... by
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And we have clearly passed it...
But let's keep going and see what happens.
I laughed so hard at this version of the story, and we clearly need more. Going down that rabbit hole is best decision ever.
But now I think about this, the fact Pirithous is a son of Zeus and wanted to marry a daugther of Zeus... barf. -
Hang on, weren't like... by
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...weren't Zeus and Hera siblings too? I mean from what I remember, they were both Cronus's children?! Or is the book I was taught out of getting it wrong?
Whatever the case, when you look into it deep enough, ancient mythologies are basically the weird stories the human race wrote when it was a kid! Am I right?
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Oh. It's one of the muses. by
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And how is your mother Mnemosyne, my dear? Still smarting from forgetting (see what I did there?) to keep Zeus from my side? Of course, she was his aunt, so it was never going to last, was it?
And yes, Zeus is my brother, but have you seen what my other options were? The Titans were all either jerks or married, their kids were even worse (well, Eos was lovely, but she had a thing for militant types), the older generations were a complete shambles, and Prometheus' little mud-creatures were simply mucky. It wasn't until Hephaestus made the lovely Pandora (the first use of bone china in creature creation, and didn't it just show!) that they were worth paying the slightest attention to.
I suppose there was always Scaphrodite, she wasn't technically a relative, but, um, no. Not my type.
And... well, Zeus is Zeus. If you had a choice between the King of the Gods and, like, anyone else, which one would you marry?
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(Oh, it's on, Herasoron, it's on.) by
on 2018-06-25 01:29:00 UTC
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[Twisthalia has now entered roast mode.]
Ahem.
First of all, I read that to punish Leto, you prolonged her pregnancy to nine months. Reading between the lines, I'm guessing that's how the average pregnancy came to be nine months in the first place. How petty is a goddess who does something to punish one woman and ends up harming every woman in the process? Why don't you think before you revenge for once?
Second of all, speaking of Hephaestus, the poor guy! You threw him off Olympus either for his face or his limp, based on different accounts. I'm pretty sure it was his face. So hey, you're superficial, but at least you're not ableist, am I right? Either way, get with the times.
Third of all... all the things you did to Hercules and his mom. Delayed birth, the snakes, the insanity, the twelve labors. Do you deserve to be on this Board if you yourself are prone to... going to such lengths to smite your enemies? I mean, we are deities (some greater than others), but there's a right way and a wrong way to do deity stuff, and you seem like you're trying kinda hard to fulfill your wishes. Like a bad author. I guess.
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Oh dear, my dear. You are so tragically misinformed. by
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'First of all', to quote you, Leto deserved everything she got; or do you think attempting to steal my husband and my throne was just a light-hearted jape? Secondly, she only gave birth at all due to finding loopholes in my decrees; the 'nine months' thing was a fluke that should never have happened.
Thirdly, the fact that a trio of deities (Zeus, Neshthena, and Hephaestus) who never knew their mothers simply assumed that nine months was a good length for a pregnancy is hardly my fault; had my husband only asked before ordaining the creation of Pandora (and if you want to talk about mistreatment of women, look at that!), I could have set him straight. But he didn't.
I'm not even going to address your scurrilous accusations regarding Hephaestus. But as for little Alcides - who does not deserve to use my name, thank you very much - he was a brat from birth (why do you think I tried to stop it?). He attempted to maul me as an infant, but did I retaliate? No! I let Athene take him away in peace, because of my overwhelming kindness.
To find that Alcmene promptly renamed him after me to celebrate her petty victory, and then immediately accused me of trying to murder him with snakes (snakes! Why would I send snakes?) was the biggest slap in the face you can imagine.
As for blaming his wretched violence on me, I'm sorry, but do you not even remember the way he slaughtered your nephew Linus? The boy was clearly wrong in the head, and he only proved that when he murdered poor Megara. Nor did the Labours have anything to do with me; he was set to them by the Oracle at... Delphi... wait a minute.
Serpents are the followers of Hermes, son of Zeus and that fallen star Maia. Madness is the blessing of Dionysus, son of Zeus and Semele. Delphi is the domain of Apollo, son of Zeus and Leto.
... my Me. The whole wretched 'Heracles' affair was a plot by my husband's sons to discredit me. I bet Neshthena was in on it too! They're out to get me, the lot of them!
No... no. Calm down, Herasoron. Everything is fine. Your husband loves you. Your handmaids love you. You are beautiful and powerful.
Right.
Your attempts to break me have failed, Twisthalia, daughter of Zeus. Go back to your little comedies.
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Well, I can fact check on my own time, because I'm not done! by
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A joke, or in this case, a roast, can be completely wrong and still be effective as long as someone aside from the joke teller laughs. Why do you think there are "yo mama" jokes?
Anyway, breaking people has never been my specialty. Leave that to the Amphilogiai. Instead I take whatever situations I get cornered in and laugh at them. It's my way of rolling with the punches, and you'd know that if you cared enough about me to actually examine my personality. I make people laugh. It's my deal.
So, since you started this fight, how it works should probably be on my terms. All we need to see who won is to get the audience to decide who was funnier... intentionally, I mean, not like how people who think that the trails made by airplanes are made of brainwashing chemicals are funny.
...gods damn it, I don't see much of an audience. Hey! Hey Scaphrodite, you replied to Herasoron's post too! You're an audience! Who's funnier around here? Make sure to be honest - being Scaphrodite, you can always repair your own face, right? And also mine?
-Twisthalia
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Herasoron's Resolve is tested... by
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Actually, calling off the battle. Scaphrodite wins. by
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You managed to be funnier than me in this situation. Partly because I'm tired and can't think straight, but you just win in general. I'm going to take notes from this event now.
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What about the whole "Heracles" thing? (nm) by
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Fare thee Well by
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Good luck to you and whatever you do next!
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/waves/ Go Well, Sergio. by
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I'll keep an eye out for that future book. /Optional!Hugs
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I haven't been reading many spinoffs... by
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Currently I'm finishing reading the Original Series as part of my preparation for a Permission attempt, but now that the Wiki has been discovered as miraculously unblocked on my computer, Blank Sprite is going on my list. Just for a fellow PPCer.
I understand your decision and I wish you good luck with whatever you do next.
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I haven't read most of Blank Sprite by
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A lot of that down was down to not having any idea what was going on by the time its existence came to my attention, and feeling like I didn't have the time to start at the beginning with various other goings-on and priorities, both life and media-wise.
That being said, I do agree we have a general problem with not reviewing or at least acknowledging we've read stuff around here - so I'm going to make my Nth call for people to at least drop an "I read your thing (nm)" on stuff they read because it's better than cricket noises.
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That's exactly what I was going to say! by
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I've always been one to trust in the advice to write for yourself rather than for others, but even so it's become disturbingly common nowadays for more than a few Boarders to have devoted days or even weeks of effort to writing, proofreading, and the complex business of beta-reading, post the final product on the Board in the hopes of receiving reader compliments and feedback, and be met with utter silence while everyone else pays far more attention to other Boarders, events, or things. It's happened several times in my case as well, much to my chagrin, and although I have yet to have my writing inadvertently upstaged by drama I'll gladly second Tomash's sentiment regarding this issue. Reader critique is essential for writers to move forward and failing to provide it may result in the risk of stagnation on the author's part and a decline in work quality - something I myself know from experience over the past few years as a PPC writer.
And as for the whole deal with consistent drama, this was the reason for my (admittedly misguided and poorly worded) statement that I was disappointed with the community in the aftermath of a former member leaving and requesting to be locked out as penance for attacking the Board on behalf of someone who was banned twice in a row. For all intents and purposes, consider that statement retracted. I came to the PPC because I thought it to be drama-free unlike certain communities I had left behind (or was kicked out of) over the years, and I've made a lot of great friends thanks to it; in hindsight I should've known that the Ironic Overpower was already setting its sights on my naivete regarding the dearth of drama at the time. As Neshomeh put it, though, "neither [the banned person] nor any other individual has the power to ruin the PPC unless we give it to them by losing our cool over them." I know there have been quite a few slip-ups over the years - some worse than others, as Sergio noted - but from what I've been seeing, The Nameless Admin has done a good job dealing with most of the things that troubled us since. I guess my earlier bitterness was due to a combination of singling out the drama without considering the good things this community has to offer and sealing myself in a mental panic room whenever I see things going south (which is a very real bad habit my family has been helping me to break!).
While I did consider leaving myself not long after the incident Sergio mentioned, I quickly decided against it in part because I still have obligations regarding my PPC characters in the future. I will however repeat my assent with regards to Tomash - in no small part because I too know all too well the feeling of months of hard work being rendered absolutely useless. -
Call for datapoints by
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We've noticed here that, as a general trend, a decent chunk of the writing on the Board (for example, Ix and Delta's recent mission) hasn't really gotten much of a response. So, I'd like to ask: why aren't people leaving more responses?
For my part, I've run into cases where I really don't have the time to read some longer work until it's fallen off the front page and responding seemed silly or I'd ended up giving up on actually getting around to reading the thing. (There's also the case, like with Delta and Ix's mission, where I was a beta reader, which means I'd already left my comments and repeating them again felt rather redundant.)
My current hypothesis is that a noticeable part of the problem comes from the community is drifting older and real-life-having-er (due to a slowdown in the number of newbies because we're hiding off in a near-invisible corner of the internet) which has left us collectively with less time to read stuff.
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I have many thoughts about this entire thread. by
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I'm on a bus, though, so I'll keep to this bit for now.
Why I personally may not review:
Sometimes I may feel I have nothing constructive to add (and we did go through a period of people complaining against one-line "this was good!" type comments, IIRC), but it's usually because I didn't read it.
Why didn't I read it:
- As hS says, as an adult, the time and energy commitment is costlier to me than it was when I was in college. If I have a choice between devoting my free time to reading and reviewing a mission or something else, the mission has to be more rewarding than the other thing.
- To be blunt, it usually isn't. It's nothing personal. It's just that I've been a PPCer for fifteen years; I've read a LOT of missions. It takes more to get my attention these days, even if it's in a continuum I know and by a writer I like.
I'd like to stress that I don't think this means the writing quality has dropped off (how would I know?) or that the community has changed for the worse (more thoughts on "drama" another time). Mostly, it's that I have changed. I'm at a radically different place in my life than most of the rest of you. That's no one's fault, and nothing to panic over.
- I may not care for the continuum or the style of the writer. We all have our preferences.
Now, let me answer the corollary of why I may read and review:
- As an older, more experienced member, it's something I expect of myself. Occasionally this feels burdensome, but I figure if I'm going to hang around with you kids, I should at least occasionally make an effort to embrace my adulthood and the position of mentor.
- As an older, more experienced member, I DO often have thoughts to contribute that others may not. Sharing my expertise with someone who values it is rewarding for me.
- If I like you and have a good relationship with you, I'm way more likely to read and comment on your stuff. I know I personally don't make it too easy to get to know me, though, so I don't fault anyone else on this point. More on community another time.
- If you engage with my writing/other output, I'm more likely to engage with yours. More on the social contract another time.
I think that's all the major points? Again, though, on a bus. I may have missed things.
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Sadly, yes. by
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I pretty much reply to anything I read - I just don't read anything. It's a combination of a number of factors:
-I don't have much extended 'free time' on the computer, and what I do have (at home), I use for other things (ie, games).
-I don't like reading long things on a phone.
-Missions today are much, much longer than they used to be.
-I don't know most of the canons people are working in these days; relatedly, the habit of mentioning what canon a mission is in in the subject line has been lost, so the ones I do know are hidden away.
-I don't know the agents, and most stories nowadays are built around the assumption that you do. The first part springs out of all the foregoing, but it's a definite vicious cycle: I don't know the agents, so I can't get into the missions, so I don't get to know the agents...
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Tangential question by
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How understandable/enjoyable should a mission be if you don't know the canon? Does it depend on the fic and what exactly's bad about it?
(And, from what I can tell, all we know about the related question "How understandable should a PPC story be if you don't know the spinoff?" is that many recent stories are having problems in this regard.)
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Hmmm. (+ a whole long thing on agent reintroductions) by
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Some interesting points. Interesting points which make me want to take some of that into account with the next thing I write! Unfortunately, I write/publish somewhat slowly, so I'm not sure how immediately effective that could be, but...I'll still keep it in mind. Especially the last two points. And hopefully I *will* be posting some things soonish. Maybe. Hopefully. End of semester is a poor time to be saying that, but I'm a daredevil today.
In terms of making the agents accessible: any tips on how to do that gently? I immediately think a bit of how JKR reintroduces characters at the beginning of each book, but possibly done more simply? For instance, kind of weaving in bits of information near the beginning, but not pausing to recap a little?
Come to think of it, Tamora Pierce does this as well...actually, if I pick up the first book of hers within reach, Briar's Book (fourth in a series), this is what I get in the first chapter:
-Briar himself, the third person POV character for this chapter, gets reintroduced bit by bit as the plot starts up. Little bits of his past and his present, what he's learning, who he is, how he acts in different situations--it gets presented through mentions, comparisons, even dialogue with other characters (including one who's never met him before, but has a very good reason for doing so). We get a good sense of who he is and where he's been (and currently is) in life without the author ever really stopping for a couple paragraphs to throw the information at us. Everything is just woven in, in a way that doesn't really seem forced--just a tiny bit introspective, if that.
-Briar's adoptive sisters and their teachers mostly just get establishing details of their names and what they do in life, though to be fair, they're not in this chapter at all. Only Sandry appears: accordingly, we get little notes on her personality, which, considering that they inform Briar's responses to her, fit in very well.
-Briar's teacher, Rosethorn, gets a lot more, which makes sense since she's quite present in the chapter. We first get her name and occupation, in the context of Briar's thoughts to do with why they're in the city at all. In the same paragraph, we find out a little bit about her strength of will, still in the same context. On the next page, we get a physical description and Briar's past reaction to it--which help establish her further, both because (though it's not mentioned now) Rosethorn is a bit vain about her face and because Briar's reaction does actually reflect on her personality. We also get a brief mention of her power and what she's actually teaching Briar. A few pages later, we get another establishing detail or two about her in connection with Briar, before she reappears in person. Then we get only one or two more establishing hints, still in the context of Briar's thoughts.
And I know it's the next chapter, but I want to mention that that one starts off reintroducing a recurring secondary character through the eyes of his niece (Sandry). It also introduces Sandry. In the first three paragraphs, we get a good bit of physical description (and a bit of recent history) in a way that makes sense. We open with them having tea and being pleased to see each other, continue with a mention that it's been a hard winter in the time elapsed since the last book, and flow into the second paragraph with Sandry reflecting on how that winter affected her uncle (using physical description to also show emotional state) and seguing very naturally from there into briefly describing why he dresses simply, which says a good deal about both his personality and his strength as a ruler. In the third paragraph, we get physical description of Sandry, with hints of personal description, in the context of her having dressed up on purpose.
And I'm going to cut myself off here, because as fun as it is to go on analyzing, there are at least three more characters to talk about, and this will just become essay length.
My point with all this? This is the fourth book in a series, with nine characters to reintroduce within the first couple chapters, not to mention bits of the setting. Looking at it, I think her methods actually could be adapted well to missions, though they might have to be shortened--though, then again, most missions don't involve eight or more agents! I think weaving in descriptions could be done, though it might take some practice and editing to make sure it flows logically. A nice little challenge! I'm going to try to take it.
Any further ideas?
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Reintroducing agents more might also help with my own reasons for not reading all the recent missions. Those primarily boil down to:
-I don't know the canon, and if the agents didn't start off in ones I did know, and at a time when I had free time to read missions, I'm usually not going to follow them in. Unless the summary *really* grabs me, but with a canon I don't know...that can be hard.
As for what happened with Blank Sprite...I think I was actually a beta early on? The problem is: canon I don't know, characters I don't feel I know too well yet...the latest summaries were interesting, and more and more I'm thinking I might go back and read it from the beginning, but--that's the thing. When part 12 is going up, at a busy time, going back to the beginning unfortunately becomes a bit daunting, especially if you're unfamiliar with most of what's involved. However, given I'm pretty sure some of my favorite tropes showed up by the end, I may have to go back and give it a proper go. It's an impressive piece of work, and I've been both glad and impressed to watch the parts keep going up, even if I wasn't reading at the time.
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Sadly I think it's more on the readers. by
on 2018-06-19 16:24:00 UTC
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To take a specific example: Blank Sprite is perfectly enjoyable. I remember only the vaguest things about the agents, know nothing about the canons, but I've read three chapters so far and will be moving onto the fourth when I've stopped replying to things on the Board. ^_~ The problem has never been that I start reading and go 'uggh, who are all these people?' - it's that I never start reading at all.
And partly that's length. When I wrote the Woodsprite of the North mission, it was ridiculously long, clocking in at around 11,500 words. Terri's note at the top of it describes it as 'one of the more epic DOGA missions'.
Well, Of Wolves and Fellowship (my most recent full-length 'real' mission) is only 3000 words shy of that. Ix and Delta's mission at the bottom of the front page is 2000 more than it. Compare that to TOS, where around 5000 words is fairly normal. Missions have been getting longer - and I've been getting lazier.
And partly it's lack of connection. Back In The Day, I talked to loads of Boarders on MSN Messenger; I was friends with them on LJ. When Gundamkiwi wrote a mission, I didn't go 'oh, anime, skip' - I went 'hey, it's Kiwi!'. Now, even the people I know best on the Board, I only interact with here or in occasional emails. I know, other options are still out there, but I have my own issues with those - not least of which is time.
And partly, yeah, it's time. I used to read every mission that came through, because I was a university student with loads of downtime and no friends. Now, I'm at work all day, spending time with my wife in the evenings, and entertaining small children at the weekends. Whether it's 5K or 15K, I don't have the time to settle down with a mission I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy. (Most books I read nowadays are ones I've already read, too. I'm working through the latter Discworld novels at the moment, among other things.)
What can a writer do to counter that? I don't know. I've tried various things myself - short missions is my big one - but they didn't have a huge impact. Too many confounding factors. I don't know.
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I'm going to make a point of reading more missions now. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 02:22:00 UTC
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A realization by
on 2018-06-21 20:08:00 UTC
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Because of our tendency to roll our own mission hosting, and double especially because a lot of stuff has moved to Google Docs, there's no good or uniform ways to leave a review (or even some sort of "I like this") on things that have fallen off the front page or that are sitting on the wiki, such as, say this Young Wizards mission by hS (thoughts: the chocolate scene at the beginning was funny, "only when so inclined" and surrounding was a nice bit of dialogue, the execution method was clever).
Does anyone have any suggestions here? (I don't, really, but pointing out the issue seemed important.)
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Google Docs by
on 2018-06-26 10:37:00 UTC
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I love Google Docs. That's where I do all my writing. Which is probably why I hate reading finished works in Google Docs. I always have a nagging feeling that the work isn't complete when I am reading it there. It's probably just a weird thing specific to me, but just throwing that out there.
The main thing, though, is that I was gone for a long time and it's like a foreign country to me now. I don't know many of the people, and fewer of the agents, and I'm reluctant to go back and start at the beginning to learn the agents, especially if I have no knowledge of the canons. -
Wiki talk pages? by
on 2018-06-21 22:32:00 UTC
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Either user pages or agent pages, if they exist.
Though, every mission of mine links to my user talk page, and I think it's been used once in the many years since I started doing that. I don't know if that's because there's an aversion to it, or because the people who tend to use the wiki tend to be active and thus review when things are first published, or what.
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I think it's a combination of lots of factors. by
on 2018-06-22 09:33:00 UTC
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(... which is a brilliantly nonspecific answer; everything is a combination of lots of factors.)
Thinking back to the old days on FF.net, there was a lot of subtle emphasis on reviews:
-On the category page and on the story itself, you had the number of previous reviews front and centre, with a link to let you read them. They weren't just for the author - they were for other readers, too.
-You had a big empty text box at the bottom of the page, inviting you to write in it.
-Chapter length limits meant you saw a lot of those text boxes. You'd probably split a big, modern mission over three or four chapters, whereas on GDocs or a website, it's all one huge column of words.
-"Please R&R!" "Reviews are very welcome." "If I get five reviews of this chapter, I'll continue!" "If you review my story, I'll review yours!" These things come across as shallow attention-seeking, and we love to mock them... but they also work.
We don't have that. Even your user page is hidden away behind a link; it's not there, in your face. And the lack of ability to review elsewhere (and the fact that we've drifted away from being a community of fanfic writers and readers) means people have lost the... the cultural imperative to do so.
... hmm. This gives me an idea.
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My pledge: If you review my story, I'll review yours. by
on 2018-06-22 09:43:00 UTC
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This is exactly what it says on the tin: a standing pledge to reciprocate reviews. If you leave a comment on one of my stories - whether on the Board as it's posted, on FF.net (for the few that are up there), on the Board at another time, or on the Wiki (assuming I see it) - I will reciprocate by reading and reviewing something you've written (assuming I can find something). I'll leave that review in the dedicated comment spot, if it has one, or on your Wiki talk page otherwise; I'll also put it on the Board if that's where you reviewed me.
I'm applying this slightly retroactively, so Thoth and Tomash, you can expect something when I get a chance.
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/gently nudges by
on 2018-06-28 23:26:00 UTC
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Since I figure you might be interested...?
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A few thoughts by
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At this point, I've mostly resigned myself to the fact that all of my published missions and interludes might as well be writing for the drawer. Length of missions doesn't have anything to do with it; while my cowrites tend to be rather... on the long side (to put it lightly), my average mission is about 20 pages in a Google Doc, or 8k words. I'll get one, maybe two comments on any of them if I'm lucky.
The only thing people turn out to read these days are the bigger event pieces. Ix and Charlotte's wedding had the most responses that I'd seen on any of my missions since... well, around the time I did Little Miss Mary. The last two years, people have just... sort of stopped responding.
And yes, I know I don't exactly help the problem. I can't remember the last time I bothered to read a mission that wasn't by an author whose agents I didn't already know.
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Most of us are petty in that way, I think. by
on 2018-06-20 00:38:00 UTC
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Notable exceptions being doctorlit, HG, and Tomash, who have a great record of responding to everything they possibly can even if they should probably be eating or sleeping instead doc. ^_~
But yeah, for the rest of us? Input has to equal or exceed output, or the system is not sustainable. That's a thing we all need to be aware of in all our relationships, not just here, and make sure we're doing our part to keep them alive and well.
For the record, I'm awful at this. I've heard you shouldn't keep a ledger for your relationships, but if I don't I'm way too inclined to just take whatever I can get and run. I keep a balance sheet when I care enough not to do that. I reckon our resident Aspies can relate to this?
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Hey, I publish so rarely . . . by
on 2018-06-20 05:28:00 UTC
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. . . I could never expect anyone to reciprocate reviewing my stuff without the use of time travel.
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The Comic Book Problem, Strange Canons, and solutions by
on 2018-06-19 23:59:00 UTC
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So the way I see it, there are a few common obstacles to missions. Here they are, itemized. I'll also try and propose some solutions or something.
1. Mission Length: Missions have been getting longer, yeah. Go reread the Blood Raining Night mission again, and at the front, Past!Nesh talks about how 30 pages is HUUUGE for a mission. Nowadays, that's... pretty average, I think. No real easy fix for that.
2. The Comicbook Problem: As you write more missions, continuity piles up, making the whole thing increasingly inpenetrable to newcomers. A lot of spinoffs get bitten by this, but I think Ix gets it the worst: Ix's spinoffs are really long, but also have a strong character drama focus, with an overarching arc of character development throughout. As such, if you don't read them all, you find yourself at a disadvantage because you're missing stuff—at least, that's the impression I've gotten, part of why I haven't gotten into them yet. Let me know if I'm wrong.
There are a few ways to deal with this:
-Don't build strong continuity: If you don't have a strong arc and character development focus, this isn't so bad for you. Trojie and Pads are a great example of this: that spinoff has a ton of missions, but you can pretty much read whatever you want, and most of them can more or less stand alone. Larf described the spinoff as "like a Saturday-morning cartoon" once, and I think he nailed it. A lot of early spinoffs also did this, as the emphasis was more on the snark and goofiness than the characters in the early days, but they were short enough that it didn't really matter.
-The "Cosmere" Approach: Dubbed as such after Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere. Sayeth TVTropes, Sanderson created the Cosmere because he "desire to create an epic length series without requiring readers to buy a ridiculous amount of books." But TVT isn't the most accurate source, I can't be sure that's true. Anyways he interlinked a ton of shorter series that all stood on their own into a larger, overarching universe. That way, newcomers had a wide variety of entry points, each series was short enough not to overwhelm, and you still got the benefits of a larger, more elaborate setting if you were willing to read all the things. In the PPC, the strongest example of this sort of thing is by far hS. hS's spinoff stuff is big. Really big. There is quite a bit of it. But see, it never feels big, because it's split up into a large number of interconnected series that can be, more or less, read in any order, each with satisfying character arcs (well, most of them, anyways. The arc-centric ones). I first started reading with Lofty Skies, Crashing Down, Not the DIO, Swan's Egg, and Tales from DoGA. But had I gone through Newbies, Origins, Wanderer, DWT, and Elsewhere In Action, I would have been just as able to comprehend things. This is a massive strength, and a credit to hS's writing. It's also a credit that he uses the large cast he has to make the PPC feel really alive and active, and to keep the goofiness of the PPC alive while he actually does genuinely serious character arcs. But enough stroking hS's ego. He doesn't need it.
-Not writing many missions: This is the simple approach: you don't have to manage complexity if you never create it. Although it has its own problems, of course. Many PPCers use this strategy. Like me! (but I'm working on it.)
3. The Canons-you-don't-know problem: I'll be honest... I don't see this as a problem so much. I mean, it is slightly, but it's not disasterous. The first trick is ensuring that people who don't know the canon don't get lost, which... I am notoriously bad at. Heck, I failed to get my Permission first time around for a large part because I didn't give proper context for my characters and most of my betas knew them already such that they couldn't catch the issue ahead of time. Massive failing on my part. So... if you want your mission to be decipherable to people who don't know the canon, get betas who don't know the canon, and get them to tell you when they're confused.
The other trick is holding the uninitiated reader's interest. This is really a test of your abilities as a writer, and of the strength of your agents. Because in the absence of canon knowledge, the horror of the fic's crimes against that canon aren't as strong a draw, nor is the joy of seeing all those bad tropes you see in your ff.net browsings day after day getting ripped into. So what remains is the strength of the characters and their interactions (and their snark—this is the PPC after all), which really ought to be the central focus anyways. We may be critics, but the primary focus of a PPC mission is to entertain.
Part of the reason this has never been so much a probkem is because reading fics in canons I don't know well or don't care about was a big part of my PPC experience. I don't even know if I'd read LoTR when I first stumbled across TOS, and even if I had, I was mocked at the time for not knowing the difference between Barad-dur and Khazad-dun. I wasn't a dedicated Rings fan, but I devoured TOS and OFUM, because they were funny and clever and enjoyable. Heck, a good mission can even get someone into something. Seeing Nume and Illraen deal with Young Wizards made me want to read it just as much as the board threads that were appearing at the time, a Labyrinth mission is what definitively put it on my list for watching (I will, I swear!), if I hadn't read LoTR by then, ToS inspired me to do so, Suicide put GoF on my radar and got me to read it (and made it weird as hell but that's another story), and while Pern had been on my list for a while, Nume, Illraen, and Derik sealed the deal.
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Thoth's recruitment: A review. by
on 2018-06-25 16:11:00 UTC
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Thank you for the comments! Knowing what you're doing well is just as important as knowing what you're not doing well. I like to think that the 'connected but not' thing you're commenting on is deliberate - while (for instance) readers who already know Selene will get more out of seeing her in Driftwood, it's by no means essential, and I did that on purpose. But... some of it is also definitely just me throwing out more ideas than are good for me, with no real thought into how they fit together. The DIO tales are a big misfit for everything else, and a lot of the non-series stories are just me mucking about. ^_^ Plus there's Reorg and Crashing Down; I have no idea how well they hold up.
Right, down to business. In keeping with my new standing pledge, I took a look over Agent Thoth's wiki page. I think I actually read your cowrite with Nesh, so instead I've gone back to (no surprises here, I said it in the title!) that short 'Thoth is recruited into the Thousand Sons' story you've got linked.
I like the script style of the backstory, and the way you switch to a traditional third-person view for the HQ part. It really emphasises the difference between the two sections. (As it happens, I'm rereading Ravenor right now, which has a similar switch between first and third person when Gideon stops mucking about in people's heads.) It's a little thing, but it did catch my eye.
I was going to comment that Kannan seemed a little too Thoth-like, a bit too Astartes-aloof for where he's at in his life, with lines like 'There's no shame in your lack of belief'. But then I caught the line two down from that, and realised that it's entirely deliberate: he sounds like that because he's deliberately hiding his feelings. That sets up a wonderful contrast between the two characters' methods of dealing with their separation, and it definitely comes across in the dialogue.
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Thanks! by
on 2018-06-26 04:58:00 UTC
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I quite liked Reorg, in case you're curious.
Oh jeez, that story. I have... complicated feelings about it. I like it? I think? It was the first thing I got a really strong positive response on here, which I thought was Pretty Neat. Some parts feel a bit... weird, from here? I dunno.
I don't know how or if I'd write it now, but I probably wouldn't write it quite like that.
Anyways, here are some hows and whys it all happened.
This was one of Nova's first prompts, and the line was "When will I see you again?" I'd already had ideas about Thoth before being an Astartes, and that kinda sealed the deal on that, because Thoth having to leave everyone behind is pretty dang evocative image, and it was the first thing to pop into my head and I am lazy, in case you haven't noticed. Especially on prompts.
The flashback scenes came first. Originally, there wasn't going to BE a present-time scene, but then it occurred to me that it would be a good idea to ensure people know that the person in the flashback is Thoth, because it might be ambigouous. And then I decided to play up that ambiguity and lead up to a reveal—a reveal that I was pretty sure everyone would have guessed already, but a reveal all the same. Why not?
As for the style of the flashbacks... Honestly? It was an excuse for me to not write dialogue tags or describe the surroundings, as much as anything else. I'm bad at dialogue tags, and none-to-great at descriptions. But more seriously, in terms of physical description, I'm not entirely sure what the scene would look like: canon is kind vague about Prospero, and while I can make some educated guesses, there are other things I'm a bit in the dark on. So... yeah.
I had the idea of it being an audio recording or something, so I could be lazy about visualization, and because it seemed cool. Then I had the idea of jacking the style of those interludes between Graff and Anderson (and whoever else, it varied) from Ender's Game. So that's that.
As for the precise content... that has a lot less to do with Thoth or anything than where I was at the time. I'd just come out, both to the board and, really, to myself, and that whole thing was weighing on my mind a lot. So... well. That was the first thing I thought of. And I ran with it. -
About the unfamiliar canon thing by
on 2018-06-20 20:32:00 UTC
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Would it help if one of the agents was slightly less familiar with the canon so the other might have to explain more obscure details? Or another solution would be to create a sort of appendix providing a short 2 sentence summary for specific terms that people may not be familiar with. It usually doesn't detract from the mission reading experience if I'm not a fan of the canon so long as I get informed in some way of why it is a charge.
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Yep! by
on 2018-06-20 21:55:00 UTC
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It's why there's devices like the Fictionary, in-universe; even when a fic is the right division for an agent pair, that doesn't mean they have the canon knowledge! Or need to have it, as long as the mission writer is willing to do the research.
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Mission length is fixable. by
on 2018-06-20 00:51:00 UTC
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The fix is to have a length limit and an end point in mind when you start writing. If you get to the end point and you've exceeded the limit by a significant amount, you go back and figure out what you need to cut. Not every joke is your best joke; not every charge is a vital one. There's always something you can afford to lose. Your beta(s) may be instrumental in helping you identify what that is.
Your end point will, of course, influence your mission length. If you're PPCing 20,000 words of fic, that's probably going to result in a longer mission than 12,000 words of fic.
More agents also tends to result in higher word counts, which is one reason two is the ideal number.
~Neshomeh
P.S. Thoth, I'm sure you didn't mean to imply that hS has an overinflated ego? {= )
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Nah, I was mostly implying... by
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That if I let myself go, I'd be at hS's ego until it was. Apolgies for the connotations.
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I just haven't read many missions recently. (nm) by
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Meanwhile... by
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I just feel like I'm bad at criticism. And if I don't have anything to say, I don't see much point in saying it.
Of late, I've missed a lot of people's stuff between schoolwork, homework, and my own readimg and writing (Jeez, I still have a mission to work on! Paaaanic!). It is summer, so that may cool down, but OTOH, I've got a job lined up...
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I'm not great at criticism either by
on 2018-06-18 20:17:00 UTC
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I try, a good chunk of the time? But I'm pretty sure there's a lot of issues, especially large-scale ones, I tend to miss. But I think that critiquing things is something you get better at with practice, same as with writing.
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Stress less. by
on 2018-06-20 00:20:00 UTC
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What I really want from a review is to know how the work made you feel when you read it. I want to know if you laughed or not, if you sympathized with the characters or not, if you cared or not.
That's pretty much it. I know not everyone is great at active reading—being aware of your own responses in the moment; having a sort of dialogue with the work as you read it—and that does improve with practice, but there's no special art to conveying this information once you're aware of it. The stream-of-consciousness type commentary you guys do is great for this. Please keep it up!
Technical points are great, too, but honestly, that's of secondary value. If the thing I did didn't have the impact I wanted, that's a sign to me to analyze my technique and seek more input about how I could have done it better. First and foremost: get on the couch and tell me how it makes you feel! ^_~
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^^^ This. This exactly. (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 00:35:00 UTC
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There's a good Tumblr post on leaving critique. by
on 2018-06-18 20:56:00 UTC
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Maybe I'll try to dig it out. It did look helpful for providing starting points and I think also explaining what kind of feedback (positive or constructive) authors would love to get.
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Sorry about that... by
on 2018-06-17 21:25:00 UTC
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I must confess I haven't read Blank Sprite. I've wanted to, but there's always been something else to read and I was honestly intimidated by the length.
...OTOH, I don't noticed the drama quite so much. Maybe because I do my best to stay out of it, Maybe for other reasons.
Ah well.
I wish things could have worked out differently. You seem like a cool guy, and I wish I'd been able to get to know you better.
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Hey, sorry for disappearing... Let's talk soundtracks! by
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Right, I'm back from a wonderful two-week music camp in the mountains, and now that I've caught up with everything, I'd like to share a little music theory and other musings with regards to soundtracks. To keep this post from getting long, I'm only going to present one analysis, and it's one that I think no one else has done before, so here you go.
Tritones are Scary
A tritone is an interval that splits the scale in half, or is essentially a fifth except the top note is flat (C and F#, D and G#, B and F, etc.) In the era of classical music, the tritone was said to be a musical manifestation of the devil, and was thus never used. Nowadays, people aren't quite as superstitious, but we still know that a tritone brings tension to music.
Take a look (er, listen) at the following examples from the soundtracks of Wolfenstein 3D and Lichtspeer (ironically using tritones on the same notes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jVUqzoSlpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td09zQOb6uA&t=3m17sec
Here's a little analysis:
The first, called "The Ultimate Challenge", is the second boss track of Wolfenstein 3D, and it is used for the fights against General Fettgesicht (the hardest boss) and Adolf Hitler (for similar obvious reasons). The song sets up tension by beginning with the combination of a tritone interval and a seemingly uneven rhythm, then goes back and forth between clearer-sounding and dissonant chords. The B major chords feel heroic to me, and the dissonance very tense, and the song as a whole creates a nice serious contrast to the other boss theme, which is basically just a very catchy-fied Nazi Party anthem. Knowing that the iD Software of the 90s were definitely a bunch of goofballs, they could very well have known that the tritone is "the devil's interval" and been using it to very subtly compare Hitler to Satan. Who knows? All I know is that this song definitely didn't calm my nerves when fighting either of these bosses.
The second piece is, if I'm understanding footage from boss fight compilations correctly, the theme for Lichtspeer's first boss, Das Viking Pirate King. Like "The Ultimate Challenge", it constantly goes back and forth between harmony and discord (in this case, from a fifth to a tritone), but in a much simpler manner. Combined with the fact that these notes are at first played on a synth I find similar to the type of sound that's normally only reserved for aliens and ghosts, this song makes the blatant establishment that you are up against a greater threat than what you have previously seen. As with most of the boss themes, but here especially, it heavily draws on the track before it that (if I have this right) represents the levels that precede the boss. Overall, especially considering how Das Viking Pirate King himself is rather vanilla among bosses, this does a pretty good job of introducing the presence of bosses to Lichtspeer.
So now, what do you have to say about various soundtracks, for video games, movies, or anything else? Or about musicals, can't leave those out either! Just make sure it stays mostly about music theory and not about lyrics, because otherwise the whole thread will be about lyrics, won't it. Looking forward to your thoughts!
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More music: 4X! by
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The music for 4X games has to really build character for the game involved, since there's not a huge amount of pre-prepared story a lot of the time. Here are a few of my favourites from the wonderful world of turn-based strategy:-
Shoshone Peace Theme (Civilization V: Brave New World)
This is an emotional piece, recalling the experiences of the Trail Of Tears and the genocide committed against all of America's indigenous civilizations whilst still sounding absolutely majestic. It also makes a great companion piece to...
America Industrial/Modern Theme (Civilization 6)
Civ 6 is unique in 4X games for having music that actually shifts and becomes more complex as you advance through the game. This track is from the midpoint in the game, and is based (as are all the America tracks) on the parlor song "Hard Times Come Again No More". This is a triumphal piece of music, full of hope and optimism and sounding like the OST of the greatest Western you've never seen. For something meant to represent the United States, that's a good indicator that things've gone right.
Across The Drift (Riftborn Theme, Endless Space 2)
It has to be said that the historical 4X games have it quite a lot easier than fantasy or sci-fi ones - there's already a culture and body of work upon which the music can draw, rather than obliging the composer to come up with one or imply one exists. This theme for the transdimensional time-manipulating Riftborn sells their cold, ordered, but compassionate nature really well - the ticking metronomes and clocks in the background is a great touch.
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Didn't listen to much and I can already tell it's good. by
on 2018-06-24 00:38:00 UTC
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Evokes a reaction in me, definitely. Currently I'm too tired to have enough attention span to listen all the way through, but I really do like this stuff. Thanks for showing me!
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Title Music! by
on 2018-06-23 02:52:00 UTC
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If we're talking about Civ games, I'd be remiss not to mention Christopher Tin's excellent work on the themes for IV and VI. Baba Yetu won a Grammy, and is also one of my all-time favorite pieces of music to relax to. Sogno di Volare... isn't that good. But it's good.
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When it comes to game soundtracks... by
on 2018-06-22 12:19:00 UTC
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I don't think you can go wrong with the ones of the Atlus games.
The musics from the Persona and Shin Megami Tensei games are always suited to the scenes they're played in, going from epic to dramatic to sad to fluff to epic godslaying... Rock was never so awesome before. And acid jazz for Persona 5. All of it coming mainly from composer Shoji Meguro (guesss it's no cance they decided to create dancing game spin-offs of Persona 3, 4 and 5.
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Huh. these are all pretty catchy. by
on 2018-06-24 00:33:00 UTC
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Sorry, too tired to analyze, but I do like this.
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Knuckle Sandwich! by
on 2018-06-22 05:02:00 UTC
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Knuckle Sandwich is an upcoming indie game, which is a sort of RPG kinda thing in the stylings of the Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga games and Earthbound. I, in general, recommend it a lot. Play the demo! It's really funny and fun and also gets really really dark.
But, anyways, one of the central parts of the game, as according to its dev, is the soundtrack - indeed, from what I can tell, of the five or six people working on it, everyone but the lead dev is a musician.
My particular favourite songs from the demo are Back Alley Beat and Ninety Eight. The music uses a lot of kind of sampling of human voices and so on, and, in general, fits the kind of quirky, goofy tone the game goes for.
Also, I'll just recommend Nelward, one of the game's musicians, as a whole. He's what drew me to it. It's kinda hard to describe his music, except as, well, sort of goofy electronic whatever such? Love that guy, anyway. -
I'm really liking this quirky music. by
on 2018-06-24 00:25:00 UTC
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Honestly, I'm too tired to analyze, but I do notice that it sounds very hip-hop style, which sounds about right given the game's name is Knuckle Sandwich. I do like that human voice sampling.
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There are multiple YouTube channels dedicated to VGM... by
on 2018-06-21 23:09:00 UTC
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Let's give 'em a look, shall we?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8P_raHQ4EoWTSH2GMESMQA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeZLO2VgbZHeDcongKzzfOw
https://www.youtube.com/user/ongakuconcept
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Not as serious, but I found this other channel... by
on 2018-06-21 23:12:00 UTC
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Every Other Beat makes remixes of songs where every other beat is taken out. Check out their rendition of Smooth Criminal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLvDnRU_ajk
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PS1 VGM by
on 2018-06-21 13:20:00 UTC
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Stuart Copeland (the drummer from The Police) did the soundtrack to the Spyro The Dragon PS1 games - aka. The Good Spyro Games. One of my favourite tracks in the whole series is Fireworks Factory, which really sells the level's themes of rocket ninjas without resorting to tired Orientalist leitmotifs. Check it out here:-
Fireworks Factory (Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon)
I'm really looking forward to the Spyro: Reignited trilogy, whenever that comes out, purely because of the music.
Speaking of remasters, the N. Sane Trilogy had some fantastic music of its own that updated the tracks (which were done by one of the blokes from Devo). This, ICYMI, was the Crash Bandicoot original trilogy remaster from last summer that I drooled over. There's some pretty nice music in there, and one of my favourites is the updated Hang Eight theme, with its jungle surf theme. Another choice track from the N. Sane Trilogy is the updated Road Crash theme, which has a brilliant '50s vibe.
Hang Eight/Air Crash/Plant Food (Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back, N. Sane Trilogy)
Hog Ride/Road Crash/Orange Asphalt/Area 51 (Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped, N. Sane Trilogy)
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I can definitely hear the '80s rock in these tracks. by
on 2018-06-21 23:19:00 UTC
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And I love it.
Might analyze it further a bit later. What you mentioned about Fireworks Factory is right - reminds me of a video I saw where a guy ranted about how winter level music can't ever seem to ditch those god dang sleigh bells. If you're interested, I can find that.
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Spyro! by
on 2018-06-21 14:24:00 UTC
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Those games are some of the few I've actually played through, and the soundtrack is a big part of the reason. If I can't stand how a game sounds, I'm not gonna stick to it, so a soundtrack can make or break it for me. Just about every sound in the Spyro games is charming and easy on the ears—very well designed, in my uneducated opinion. I enjoyed listening to it for hours. {= )
Listening to that track by itself, it reminds me of a CD my brother picked up featuring taiko drums. (Here's an example of just drums.) And then they weave the typical Spyro electronic-ish stuff back in. Pretty cool.
But, that's also part of why I got into Skyrim. The soundtrack, the scenery, and really everything about it is just gorgeous.
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Yeah, the first 3 Spyro games are great. by
on 2018-06-21 14:34:00 UTC
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'S'why it bugged me when that Playstation All-Stars fighting game came out and there was no Spyro or Crash as playable characters. I mean, that is some BS right there. And they would've been very easy to do! =]
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I get to be annoyed that I forgot to bring up spyro, right? by
on 2018-06-21 18:50:00 UTC
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I mean, I'd even want to talk about the same level you did!
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Yeah, Copeland did a fantastic job with it. by
on 2018-06-22 23:49:00 UTC
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...I'm a child again. by
on 2018-06-23 02:53:00 UTC
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Playstation Rules, XBox drools! :-P
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On Soundtracks by
on 2018-06-19 22:14:00 UTC
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I admit I don't know enough about music to really delve into the intricacies of how they're written.
But I will take the opportunity to gush about one of my favorite soundtracks, namely to the musical Hamilton. An obvious pick, yes, but I love the clever lyrics, use of different music styles and the way the story is told. The words flow together smoothly and the music reflects the character and story beats (and being me a history buff doesn't hurt my enjoyment of the musical one bit... even if there are some creative liberties taken).
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If you could mention a few songs... by
on 2018-06-21 23:15:00 UTC
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...I could check them out and see what I can dig up music theory wise. Or you could link to a YouTube thing, either way works.
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Well... by
on 2018-06-22 08:17:00 UTC
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The entire playlist should be on YouTube, I highly recommend listening to it (though be warned, it WILL get stuck in your head). Let's start with the first song at least: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhinPd5RRJw
But before you do here's an introduction to the musical: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sziLDcwSRQ
(I also recommend watching more of this person's videos, she mainly reviews bad musicals. It's quite entertaining.)
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Some rambles about old videogame soundtracks. by
on 2018-06-19 20:01:00 UTC
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I love id Software. The board ought to know this by now. So let's start there. IMHO, Wolf3D doesn't stand the test of time, so on to the next one.
Enough has been written about the Doom soundtrack. It's great. It's also MIDI, so everyone will probably hear something slightly different. Anyone remember MIDI? Yeah.
Also, it just rips off a ton of metal. All the metal. Still great though.
Quake! Wait, Quake had a soundtrack? Yes. Yes it does. Composed by Nine Inch Nails, no less. You probably haven't noticed it because it's really ambient. Well, except for that title theme. If you have the Steam version, you may never have heard any of that, because Quake had a Redbook soundtrack. Read: the CD was actually an audio CD, and the game won't play the soundtrack unless it's in the drive, because it doesn't exist on disc. So the Steam version doesn't even contain a soundtrack. Thankfully, there are ways to get it working again if you download a modern sourceport.
Quake 2 got hit with the redbook problem too. Which is a shame, because speaking as a metal fan, Quake 2's soundtrack is killer. I mean, listen to this!. Q2's soundtrack is the best part of that game, easy. Which isn't hard, because it's the weakest Quake game, also easy. Throwing out the horror and oppressivenes for sci-fi action and space marines killing borg didn't serve the game well, and neither did the endless brown and grey. The Edge was a bangin' DM level, though.
And finally, Quake 3, the best deathmatch game ever devised by man. I know that's high praise, but I really really really really really like this game. They brought in a few bands on this one, including the Quake 2 guys. Sonic Mayhem 1 and 5 are particularly memorable, but the one that sticks out to me most is probably this one. Because it seems to play whenever I load up Q3DM17, which is probably the most played map in Quake 3 by a mile. It's also not a very good map, but that's another story.
But I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Unreal Tournament, Quake 3's competition. Because that game also has a soundtrack, and what a soundtrack it is. Alexander Brandon is widely regarded as brilliant, and this more theatrical soundtrack doesn't disappoint. The song everyone remembers is Foregone Destination, which backed Facing Worlds, the UT99 equivalent of Q3DM17. Well, that and the fantastic Menu theme. That thing is great.
Even better, and by the same guy, is the theme to Deus Ex. Oh jeez. I can listen to that all day.
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I'd heard that Doom stole from NIN for its soundtrack... by
on 2018-06-21 23:07:00 UTC
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...but I don't know much about Quake. I'll click on that Quake 1 title theme because I'm retro...
What really stands out to me is the fact that it has a pattern that lasts 3 measures long, instead of a conventional power of 2. Or it's just very slow 3/4 time, take your pick.
Wait why's there someone screaming fading in and out on loop? Oh yeah, dark edgy game. It's getting ol- okay now it's fading out entirely. Good. Starting to hear that ambience now. I really like that.
Yeah, that does a really good job. Thumbs up!
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Rest of the soundtrack is just ambience by
on 2018-06-22 03:22:00 UTC
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Fun fact: Quake wasn't supposed to have a soundtrack at all, originally. But Trent Reznor convinced the team to add it. He also did a lot of the other sound effects as well: IIRC, those grunts and screams and stuff? That's Trent.
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Good decision on Trent's part. by
on 2018-06-24 00:29:00 UTC
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There are very few types of games that can get away with having no soundtrack, not even ambience or event-related music. I can't think of any, but I know they're out there, so...
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The plan was to have ambient sound without an OST, yeah by
on 2018-06-24 01:21:00 UTC
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And true, the OST is pretty ambient, but it's notably different without it. You don't get those little noises and chants and such. It's a little... emptier. Less atmosphere. Trent totally made the right call.
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An excuse to ramble about the Epic Mickey soundtrack! by
on 2018-06-18 21:14:00 UTC
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So two things: 1. I don't understand music on the same deep level of notes and such that twistey does, but there's some cleverness to the songs in this game I still want to bring up.
and 2. I realize this is a super tiny, minor fandom no one else here cares about but uh . . . I think this is at least somewhat interesting anyway?
So, for being an ultimately sub-par game, Epic Mickey has an utterly gorgeous and creative soundtrack, composed by James Dooley. The basic mechanic of the game is that you can advance past obstacles either by using paint to create new objects, or to brute force through things by dissolving existing objects with thinner. Most of the game levels (themed around Disney park attractions) have a music theme with five separate variations: the "base" version, a version where you're mostly using paint to get through, a version where you're only using paint to get through, a version where you're mostly using thinner to get through, and a version where you're only using thinner to get through. The paint-oriented versions tend to be focused on high-pitched chimes, and are generally gentler and more light-hearted feeling than the base version. The thinner versions tend to become very slow, with creepy violins and deep baritone notes added.
This feature was also used to hide musical easter eggs in the soundtrack. One level has the Micky Mouse Club March hidden in its music, at 1:02. It's identifiable, but the notes and tone are way off. Using lots of paint restores the tune to a more recognizable form. (Same point in time.) Using lots of thinner, though, appropriately wipes that tune completely out of the song!
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I stumbled upon the Clock Tower theme and I know. by
on 2018-06-20 23:25:00 UTC
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That one has It's A Small World hidden in it. I can particularly note how towards the end of the loop, the evil-sounding stuff (key: A minor) that's layered under the sweet innocent bits (key: A Major) switches to A Major as well, kinda suggesting something heroic or hopeful amidst that corruption. I don't know what happens before and after that fight, but if I were to be given context, I'd probably be able to analyze it further.
Epic Mickey seems like a pretty cool game.
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RE: "It's a Small World" by
on 2018-06-21 13:30:00 UTC
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It is a very cool game. I wish the presentation had been more polished, but it was memorable nonetheless.
Unfortunately, the Clock Tower boss fight doesn't have much set-up as a character in its own regard. (It is a building, after all. It couldn't really be present anywhere but that room where Mickey fights it.) There's a comment a little before that battle that one of the villains has made it go mad, and afterwards, it has its one line of dialogue apologizing for not acting itself. So I guess you could say the "evil-sounding stuff" represents the madness, while the more normal "Small World" notes are the . . . more normal personality?
Incidentally, the level that features the Clock Tower as the boss at the end has a normal battle theme that also has "It's a Small World" incorporated into it, as well as clock-based sound effects. It's subtle, but noticeable if you pay attention. It's also my favorite track out of the whole game. Give a listen? There's a subtle tune of "Small World" at 0:04, a slow, baritone version at 0:14, and a stronger, dramatic version at 0:39.
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I can definitely hear it. And I love the way it sounds. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 22:54:00 UTC
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ThatÂ’s so cool!! by
on 2018-06-20 14:45:00 UTC
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I played this game and didn’t notice these soundtrack shenanigans at the time (although I did feel like the music added a lot to creating the world), so thank you for pointing them out!
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I have a very auditory-focused memory . . . by
on 2018-06-21 13:16:00 UTC
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. . . so when I'm playing a game, I tend to subconsciously memorize the background music. It definitely makes the music a big part of the play experience for me!
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That's actually a cool thing to have! Haha! (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 22:59:00 UTC
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Lego OFUM. by
on 2018-06-18 15:11:00 UTC
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No, sadly I haven't found a literal Lego OFUM build (though that sounds kind of cool...). Instead, I have... a crackpot conspiracy theory!
The Lego Elves brand is actually a stealth Lego OFUM.
This is the Elves theme, and straight away you can see that it's stuffed with Mary-Sues and fangirls. Protagonist Emily Jones is prime OFUM material; check out her profile:
Emily is a smart, quirky and creative girl, who is mourning the loss of her grandmother. She is shy in new situations, but quickly finds her place in a group. She is very fond of nature, faithful, a bit of a dreamer and just impossible not to like.
Power: Love
Strengths: Smart, practical and super creative.
Flaws: Gets a bit insecure and clumsy when she finds herself in a new group (especially when they are all elves..).
It actually gets worse from there... she's friends with a stereotypical team of element-aligned magical elves, who all have ridiculously sparkly cute animal friends (actually, because of product turnover, they have multiple CAFs each). So far, so generic... but check out the purported villains of the piece:
Cronan, Ragana, and Noctura... or, as I like to call them, the Elves in Black Leather: Elrond, Galadriel, and Miss Cam herself.
(Okay, we'll need to pilfer a lighter hair for Galadriel, but other than that I think they're perfect.)
Still not convinced? Then check out 'Noctura's' (ie, Miss Cam's) little pets:
She has rainbow mini-Balrogs.
Case closed.
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Ramblings about design stuff because I do design stuff by
on 2018-06-20 23:20:00 UTC
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FREAKIN' BUY SOME AND REPAINT THEM! I WANT TO SEE IT! DO IT! YES!
Hehe, anyway... I love the villain designs. I actually like all the designs, but obviously a Mary Sue can be a Mary Sue and still have a good design. But I still love the designs. (I do character design stuff a lot, so that's usually what I notice first.)
I dunno, but I have a particular sweet spot for Ragana because I've seen her before in a LEGO catalog and I at the time had a villain role for myself in one story where the outfit I had had was very similar to hers, even the same black-and-green color scheme and with my old Scratch avatar's orange (which is close to pink) hair. So yeah, when you posted this, I still had a little lingering feeling of "mine" over her.
Cronan is cool, typical warlord fare with an interesting... eye motif? That's not a path most would take, so props to Lego. Noctura is great with... is one sleeve longer or are her arms being consumed by darkness? I hope it's the latter because that's cool. I love her haircut and expression and tiara and oh my God everything is so pretty. Looking at the pages, I don't know about all the CAFs and minor critters, they're just kinda cookie cutter, but the designs of the Elves are rather aesthetically pleasing. Except Skyra... I can't tell what she is, but if she were drawn for me and explained, that might satisfy me. Oh that's a cape thingy, okay. Now I like the design.
Now the real exception is the two humans. They're also very cookie cutter, which I guess combined with Emily's description means they Could Be Anyone. They could be you. They could be me. Most importantly, they could be the viewers. So yeah, typical audience insert protagonists.
TL:DR: Love the Elf designs. Everything else is pretty cookie cutter, but the Elf designs blow me away. Also, Ragana is sooooooorta mine-ish. Sorta.
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What else is secretly a fanfic? by
on 2018-06-20 02:27:00 UTC
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Warhammer 40,000 is clearly a massive crossover, and Harry Potter is a Tom Brown's School Days AU.
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"Secretly"? by
on 2018-06-20 03:04:00 UTC
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40k doesn't even try to HIDE that. I mean, have you SEEN the Navigator Houses? :-P
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You can practically smell the Dune influence in Star Wars by
on 2018-06-22 05:07:00 UTC
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At least, in the early ones. Smells like spice and hot air.
Except Dune is way, way darker with drugs and instead of the Force the main character (a kid with a four-lettered stereotypically English name) is getting battered with every possible future right into his skull. -
I should read Dune. (nm) by
on 2018-06-22 03:02:00 UTC
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I should probably read OFUM. (nm) by
on 2018-06-19 11:38:00 UTC
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You probably should! by
on 2018-06-19 15:32:00 UTC
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It's good! ^^
Or, if Middle-earth isn't your speed, you could try one of the other OFUs. The only trouble is, if you want a finished one, there... aren't very many.
I've just been and updated the Wiki to list all the finished OFUs I could find, and... well, <a href="https://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/OfficialFanfiction_University">there are six. That's taken from both our own records and Miss Cam's list. So yeah... if you want to read the LotR, Harry Potter, Hetalia, Discworld, Dragonball, or Pirates of the Caribbean OFUs, there's good news for you! If not... I hope you like cliffhangers.
(I hope to one day be the first person to finish an OFU sequel. Of course, to do that, I would have to actually start writing OFUDisc 2...)
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Wow! by
on 2018-06-19 08:15:00 UTC
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What a coincidence! Has anyone worked out the names of the mini-Balrogs yet? I definitely want one too!
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[Is nerd-sniped] by
on 2018-06-19 13:48:00 UTC
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Right. There are seven
Shadow-Batsmini-Balrogs in the theme so far: the five I included, plus these two, who don't have official pictures yet:
Irritatingly, they don't make a rainbow; I'm colour-blind, but I'm pretty sure they line up like this:
So who are they? None of their purported names (or, as I like to call them, secret identities) appear on the lists of minis, but... what if they're nicknames? Hippo could be one of the minis for 'Fellowship', for instance - Felloship, or Followship? - and Molo could be Carmollen, the mini of Cormallen.
But Phyll? Furi? There's nothing in Middle-earth even close to those.
Perhaps instead they're seven of the ten members of the fellowship.
: Ahem...
Sorry, Lord Elrond, the NINE members of the Fellowship... but which?
Well, Molo and Phyll simply have to be minis Merry and Pippin, the Urple Bandits - look at the colours, and their names even start with the same letters! I feel like Hippo must be a Sam mini, too - look at that happy smile! D'aww.
Four to go. Is the Frodo mini being driven crazy by the Ring - or is Crase more of a Boromir? Does Vespe's war-paint make him a mini of Aragorn, or of Legolas (who I can absolutely imagine spending an OFUM arc going full Maladict and thinking he's in 'Nam)? Myzo's colour-change makes him a shoe-in for Gandalf the White (perhaps he's a mispelling of Mithrandir?), and Furi's adorable rage fits nicely for Gimli... which means Vespe is more likely to be a Legolas (since those two are inseparable), and the fact that we've got the other three hobbits means Crase should be Frodo.
So there you go - the question you never thought would be answered. ^_^ And with a bit of browsing the mini lists, plus a little creative thinking...
OR
Sham - Froedo - Glimi - Legoles - Mythrandir - Merrry - Piphin
: You're not very clear on the concept of 'undercover', are you?
Oops. Er... sorry, Miss Cam. I'm going now.
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Thank you! (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 11:14:00 UTC
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Seconding wanting the mini-Balrogs! =D by
on 2018-06-18 17:30:00 UTC
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Also, uh, unrelated but... our conversation that's gone off the front page now: are we continuing that? ^^;
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Oh my god! by
on 2018-06-18 17:03:00 UTC
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Rainbow balrogs! I want! :-P
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Some Feline Wizards-related news... by
on 2018-06-18 22:31:00 UTC
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So, if any of you have heard of Mark Oshiro (of the Mark Does Stuff series - where he experiences media for the first time, for our entertainment! Though he's also been doing some writing of his own, including Anger is a Gift), he has covered all of the Young Wizards books to-date, and the Interrim Errantry novels. The clips are available on YouTube for those interested.
He has also shown interest in reading the Feline Wizards books... but since he does this through commissions, he won't be able to read the whole trilogy in one go! So if you'd be interested in having him read To Visit the Queen and The Big Meow, poke around the site, send some emails, and help commission the rest of those chapters! ;)
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Also, so I don't push anything off the page: Manual-Quest! by
on 2018-06-27 20:55:00 UTC
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In which YOU are the Instrumentality, assisting a chosen wizard on their Ordeal (and, hopefully, beyond that...)
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Hmm. by
on 2018-06-29 10:10:00 UTC
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That sounds... difficult? Sentient Instrumentalities aren't terribly common - there's Spot, and Bobo (but he's special), and... I can't think of any others? I suppose Mamvish technically has one, but that's not really what you're getting at.
I mean, roleplaying a book sounds hilarious, but as I say: difficult.
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Would just a Wizard!Quest be doable, then? (nm) by
on 2018-06-30 03:42:00 UTC
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Aw; that's fair. (nm) by
on 2018-06-29 13:21:00 UTC
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I got my dad Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stane by
on 2018-06-19 17:44:00 UTC
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AKA, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone... translated into Scottish.
Just from the chapter list alone, the Sorting Hat is the Bletherin Bunnet, Quidditch is Bizzumbaw, and Diagon Alley is The Squinty Gate.
Voldemort is You-Ken-Wha, Snape is Snipe, Dumbledore is Dumbiedykes, Filch is Feechs, Slytherin is Slydderin, Hufflepuff is Hechlepech, Ravenclaw is Corbieclook ... It's pretty glorious.
A few equally glorious sentences from this book:
"WHEESHT!" yelloched Uncle Vernon, and a couple o ettercaps fell aff the ceilin.
"Whit are these?" Harry spiered to Ron, haudin up a poke o Chocolate Puddocks.
Ron had awready had a muckle rammy wi Dean Thomas, wha shared their dormitory, aboot fitba.
"Whit wid you ken aboot it, Weasley, you couldnae even affort tae buy hauf the hanule," Malfoy snashed back.
He'd jist got awfie crabbit wi the Weasleys, wha keepit dive-bombin each ither and pretendin tae faw awff their bizzums.
Sae usefu tae hae him swoofin aroond ike an owergrown bawkie bird.
...It was $12 with shipping for me from the Barnes and Noble website, if you're interested in this amazing translation. -
“The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men” by
on 2018-06-25 12:20:00 UTC
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In related news, the other day I was looking up the phrase “The best laid plans of mice and men/ Go often awry,” and while I knew it came from a poem, I did not know that the original was a Scots language poem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_a_Mouse
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This is glorious. (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 02:26:00 UTC
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Can I join? by
on 2018-06-20 07:01:00 UTC
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Hello. Can I join your group?
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Madgod's blessings, newbie! by
on 2018-06-24 00:55:00 UTC
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I'm Twistey, a (currently recovering) 1-year-bie with an interest in world-building, character-building, all things weird and crazy, and all things that light up. And also music theory. I'm the one who gets way too invested in our joke things like Badfic Games and Shipfest, even going so far as to build up an entire mythos around the joke badfics I'm going to post in years to come. Brace yourself.
So, enough about me, what about you? What fandoms are you in? What do you like to do? What do you plan to do here - agent ideas, types of badfic you're interested in sporking, types of sporking, etc. How'd you find us? I'd love to know more!
And as for your newbie gift, since I've apparently decided to start randomly giving out samples of fantasy substances I made up, here's a bottle of purple stuff that is not the purple stuff I gave a different newbie a while back. It is not a good purple stuff, or at least it wasn't when I invented it, which was years ago. Try experimenting with it, I haven't touched it yet and I want to see if the effects have changed over time.
Anyway, nice to meet you. Have a great time here and welcome to the PPC!
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Hello newbie by
on 2018-06-21 22:00:00 UTC
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Have a pile of multi coloured pens.
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Hello newbie. by
on 2018-06-21 14:06:00 UTC
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Please have a pot of black-hole coffee to go with the rest, and a welcome.
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Salutations! by
on 2018-06-21 02:25:00 UTC
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Have a laspistol and a half-kilo of lembas bread.
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Welcome aBoard! by
on 2018-06-20 19:17:00 UTC
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Have one of my own shed feathers and a complimentary kit of Spikes!
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Hello! by
on 2018-06-20 15:48:00 UTC
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Nice to meet you - have a large bar of chocolate.
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Welcome! by
on 2018-06-20 15:26:00 UTC
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Always room for one more. Have a chocolate chip cookie and a potted aloe.
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Yep! Come on in! by
on 2018-06-20 14:53:00 UTC
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As your newbie gift, have two cents, so you can put them into discussions later.
You've already been linked the important stuff, so, what're your fandoms?
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Absolutely! by
on 2018-06-20 14:37:00 UTC
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Have a blackberry chocolate cake!
In addition to the Constitution, which has community rules, I would point out the FAQ for newbies: http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:_For_Newbies.
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on 2018-06-20 19:06:00 UTC
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I found it on the Internet.
I haven't read the original series yet, but I'd like to.
I enjoy Star Trek, Star Wars, The Addams Family, Happy Days, Mork and Mindy, Laverne and Shirley and many Disney, Pixar and Dreamworks movies. I also enjoy a great many kids' shows like Rugrats, Arthur, Martha Speaks, Sesame Street etc.
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Of course! ;) Pick a thread and start commenting. by
on 2018-06-20 14:01:00 UTC
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/passes you a Small White Package. It makes a great doorstop!
Anyway, have you read the Constitution and/or the Original Series yet? :> What are your favorite continua and/or missions?
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Dropping by to say... by
on 2018-06-20 10:46:00 UTC
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... that I’m now officially a published fandom academic. If you were on the Board at the time I posted a survey asking people to discuss their fandom platform usage and their perceptions of certain terminology, here’s the writeup of that now!
Anyway that’s new for me, as well as the oodles of fanzines I’ve been writing for, what’s up with all of you? -
Definite congrats on the publishing! by
on 2018-06-25 19:18:00 UTC
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The topic's maybe a little too deep for me to feel like I can comment on it, though you wrote the article in a way that I could at least follow it. I do think it's important to examine these changes in online social trends over time, as we (or later generations of users) will eventually be discussing internet history the same way humans discuss, um . . . other history.
Your discussion on shorter pieces of fan discussion being treated with equal dignity to larger works actually reminds me of one of the themes of Fahrenheit 451: that one of the factors that led to that setting's disillusionment with literature was the loss of free time, which led to less introspection, and less time to consume larger sources of media.
"'Classics cut to fit fifteen-minute radio shows, then cut again to fill a two-minute book column, winding up at last as a ten- or twelve-line dictionary resume.'"
Pretty scary to think that fandom is starting to follow that trend in real life. I hope the trend reverses eventually, and fandom overall migrates back to the LiveJournal/Dreamwidth style of stage.
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This got me thinking... by
on 2018-06-23 03:08:00 UTC
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With "transformative works" replacing "fanfic," and "discussion" replacing "wank," have fanfic writers started to take themselves more seriously?
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Hm, depends. by
on 2018-06-23 03:25:00 UTC
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Transformative works is more of an umbrella/legalese term covering fanfic, fanart, fanvids, and other variants of fan-created media. The thing that distinguishes it from ye olde Anne Rice’s accusations of copyright infringement is the transformative factor because the addition of a fan interpretation ‘transforms’ the work away from its original. Like how a PPC mission is transformative of the baddie, or how badfic effect on its origin canon transforms it in the PPC universe.
And it’s specifically “Discourse” that has replaced wank, not discussion. Discourse actually started from a Tumblr meme (look up Discourse Chef) but has been used to describe wank since its memetic origins.
Nevertheless, there are definitely segments of fandom that take themselves too seriously nowadays, but hasn’t that always been the case? Srsbsns has always been a part of fandom life; most of that was relegated to closed communities, or communities dedicated to wank. People on fandom_wank knew everything there would be taken lightly; this is no longer the case on Tumblr, where joke posts can get misinterpreted all the time. -
Thanks (nm) by
on 2018-06-23 03:35:00 UTC
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Congratulations! (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 14:05:00 UTC
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Congrats! (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 16:26:00 UTC
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This is really interesting! by
on 2018-06-20 15:02:00 UTC
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Unfortunately I wasn't around when you posted the survey, but I'm glad I got to read this all the same. It actually helped me make sense of some things I've been wondering about in fandom culture. As someone who entered fandom in 2009, before most of this new wave had set in, but was too young (in actual years and fandom terms) to really get it, it offered some sense to a confusing and at times contradictory perspective.
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Glad to be of help! (nm) by
on 2018-06-23 03:32:00 UTC
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Aaaa! Congratulations! (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 15:02:00 UTC
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Fascinating! by
on 2018-06-20 15:01:00 UTC
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Your findings absolutely reflect my subjective experience as an older/longer-term participant in fandom.
I find it very interesting that you seem to say that while discussions on newer platforms like Tumblr occur "at a more rapid pace with less control over the thread of conversation" and are more easily radicalized, they're being treated with "a more academic, professional lexicon" that "lends gravitas and credence to the arguments being expounded."
This puts a finger squarely on what bugs me about this shift. The conversation about fandom has become shorter, faster, less thought-through and lovingly (if self-aggrandizingly) developed, and yet treated more seriously? That seems backwards! Co-opting these serious academic terms in this way at once over-inflates the importance of one's opinions of fanstuff and dilutes their usefulness for people who do want to have a thoughtful discourse or need to express that they have a psychological trigger.
Too much like srs bsns.
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Nice! by
on 2018-06-23 03:31:00 UTC
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I’m glad I could elucidate what you’ve also observed about fandom’s culture shift! It really is interesting (and a bit perplexing) that fandom’s emergence as a mainstream aspect of media consumption comes at the price of what amounts to “bite size media” being radicalised and taken too seriously, but such is the nature of microblogging sites like Tumblr, Twitter, and other content-prioritised social media becoming the hub of fandom.
I don’t know if the Board knows but there is a beta platform called Pillowfort seeking to integrate Tumblr and LJ’s strong points. And another friend of mine is working on a similar project. So we may be looking at another user base shift soon! -
Congrats on the publish! (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 14:56:00 UTC
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Glad to see you! =D by
on 2018-06-20 14:04:00 UTC
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And this is a really fascinating read! /goes to spread it around.
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Ugh that formatting is bad. ItÂ’s almost 3AM I am so sorry. by
on 2018-06-20 10:48:00 UTC
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http://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/1276/1724”>here is a prettier one but the link is the same so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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AAAUGH THE BOARD WHY YOU DO THIS by
on 2018-06-20 10:50:00 UTC
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Just. Ignore all of that. Clearly this is an argument not to post on mobile.
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Repaired. by
on 2018-06-20 12:33:00 UTC
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(The problem seems to be that your link was in smart, curly quotes for some reason.)