So, er, yay! Boardversary! Have some cake, all.
-Alleb
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Two years ago today, I joined the PPC! by
on 2017-05-11 03:28:00 UTC
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Happy delayed Boardday! by
on 2017-05-13 11:55:00 UTC
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And let me provide more cake. Namely a black-hole chocolate one (with red berries, of course).
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/is late/ HAPPY BOARDVERSARY! =D (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 18:16:00 UTC
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Oreo ice cream cake?! by
on 2017-05-11 21:55:00 UTC
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In the words of The Who:
YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
(Attempted to make it as long as it is in the song. Somehow. Hope you enjoyed my really long "yeah". Happy Boardaversary.)
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Happy Boardaversary, and yay, cake! *nomnomnom* (nm) by
on 2017-05-11 18:07:00 UTC
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Happy Boardversary by
on 2017-05-11 13:57:00 UTC
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Secret Boardversary message!
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Congratulations (nm) by
on 2017-05-11 12:03:00 UTC
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Conga rats! by
on 2017-05-11 08:13:00 UTC
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Have a celebratory mongoose!
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HUZZAH by
on 2017-05-11 06:36:00 UTC
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HAPPY BOARDIVERSARY
I AM USING ALL CAPS
YOU CAN THUS TELL THAT I AM VERY HAPPY ABOUT THIS SITUATION AS A GENERAL WHOLE
HUZZAH!
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Hap Birth!! (nm) by
on 2017-05-11 03:47:00 UTC
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*cakefetti* (nm) by
on 2017-05-11 03:43:00 UTC
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Twenty-six years ago... by
on 2017-05-12 05:20:00 UTC
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...two USAF captains met on an airplane and fell in love. A year later, they were married.
And twenty years ago, they decided to have me.
And... I still have no idea what I'm gonna do with my life even though I just realized it's like a quarter over already.
Eh, whatever. I'm gonna have a party and eat birthday cake. Life is good.
*showers the Board with cakefetti* Happy birthday, me! -
Belated birthday wishes! by
on 2017-05-18 02:53:00 UTC
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Happy 20th, Ix! I hope you enjoyed it! And since I haven't given one of these in a while...Have a Delibird! Since you're a fellow Trainer, I don't think I need to warn you about its Presents.
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And a very belated Happy Birthday to you, Ix! by
on 2017-05-16 01:28:00 UTC
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Wow. I would have sworn I sent well-wishes on the day itself, but apparently not. Very sorry about that. Anyway, happy birthday! Hope the cake was tasty.
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My apologies for being late. Happy birthday, Ix! (nm) by
on 2017-05-14 19:37:00 UTC
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Happy late birthday! (nm) by
on 2017-05-14 15:31:00 UTC
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Cakefetti?! Please tell me that's a thing IRL! by
on 2017-05-13 14:33:00 UTC
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Or at least, if it isn't, let me compliment the members of the PPC for their skill at inventing new and exciting stuff to be used in forums and role-plays.
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I at least know edible confetti are a thing. by
on 2017-05-13 15:28:00 UTC
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Though I'm pretty sure they're mostly for cake decoration.
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Actually ... by
on 2017-05-14 10:12:00 UTC
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This appears to be the original meaning of the Italian word confetto, while the small pieces of paper called Konfetti (German) or confetti (English) are coriandolo in Italian. Sergio Turbo could tell you more about that. Also, throwing sweets as well as Konfetti is still a thing in German carnival.
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Oh, that's pretty cool! (nm) by
on 2017-05-14 15:30:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! by
on 2017-05-13 11:54:00 UTC
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And here comes a black-hole chocolate cake.
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Happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2017-05-13 04:27:00 UTC
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Cake is always a good decision. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 18:16:00 UTC
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Obligatory Voltaire musical number! by
on 2017-05-12 17:44:00 UTC
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GRAB THE CHAIR, BOYS! WE'VE GOT ANOTHER BUCKET-KICKER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ_ZQkV58Cc
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Happy birthday, Iximaz. by
on 2017-05-12 13:24:00 UTC
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No, I'm not performing that song again. I said "once" :-)
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B-b-but... by
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Happy Birthday! :D *tosses Spikes* (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 13:16:00 UTC
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*catches, tosses cake back* (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 15:50:00 UTC
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Hap Birth!! (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 12:00:00 UTC
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Tank yu! (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 15:50:00 UTC
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Happy birthday Iximaz by
on 2017-05-12 08:17:00 UTC
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Have a cake.
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*takes cake, distributes slices to all* (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 08:49:00 UTC
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Ix birfday! by
on 2017-05-12 06:31:00 UTC
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Ix birfday?!
Ix birfday!
Ix.
Birfday.
Happy birfdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
My gift upon you is: four skateboards! One for each limb! You'll be the most radical kid on the street!
HAPPY BIRFDAY ENJOY YOUR CAKE - Mah birfdai! by on 2017-05-12 06:44:00 UTC Link to this
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Friday Forum: Brought to you by space! by
on 2017-05-12 09:35:00 UTC
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Welcome back to the Friday Forum. It seemed to work last week, so let's try it again.
Please remember that, when it comes to the state of the world, not everyone will agree with you. You're free to state, discuss, and defend your viewpoint (provided it does not violate the Constitution), but please don't use that fact to attack others.
Fandom News
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Ah, do you remember the golden age? When you could have a film about Nazis that featured a stand in for the kookiest Republican presidential candidate, and it was taken for granted that she'd be fighting against them? Aye, them were the days.
I'm talking, of course, about the frankly hilarious 2012 movie Iron Sky. The first official teaser trailer for the sequel (Iron Sky: The Coming Race) dropped this week; it has Adolf Hitler riding a T. rex, and if we can trust the 2015 pre-teaser, features both the Hollow Earth and a race of reptile people living there. Fake!Sarah Palin is one of them, so I guess she was on Hitler's side all along after all? Alas, my golden era is already tainted...!
(I expect a full critique of Blondie the T. rex's anatomy. Come on, paleogeeks, I know you're out there.)
Silly News
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You all, I'm sure, remember the astonishing discovery of the TRAPPIST-1 star system, a small red star with seven earth-sized worlds around it. It has its own website, featuring this gorgeous NASA travel poster that accurately shows the fact that, y'know, this place has seven planets inside the orbit of Mercury, they're going to show up in each other's skies the size of our moon.
The issue with this system is that, with so much mass so close together, most models show the planets colliding and destroying each other within half a million years - which, obviously, hasn't happened. Luckily, astronomers are clever types, and a paper pre-printed this week suggests a way for them to be, y'know, still there: a "resonant chain", where the orbits of all seven worlds are gravitationally linked so they counter-balance each other. It's quite funky - but not entirely silly, and this section is called 'Silly News'.
The silliness comes with how this has been announced to the world. The image above links to the video in which the orbits of the planets have been transformed into music - a piano note for each complete orbit, a drumbeat for each time a planet passes its neighbours. It's a gloriously ridiculous way to showcase an astrophysical hypothesis; I love it.
Serious News
(America & France)
This week, FBI Director James Comey was fired by Twitter Personality & President Trump. Comey is simultaneously the man who decided to publically announce that he was once again investigating Hillary Clinton mere days before the election (prompting widespread belief, given how close the votes turned out, that he pretty much chose the next president all by himself), and the man who was still investigating Russian involvement in swinging that same election at the time he was fired. He wasn't - quite - investigating Trump himself, but "firing the man who's checking whether your administration is influenced by a foreign power" ain't looking good.
It's made worse by Trump's letter, which includes this delightful paragraph:
While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgement of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau.
... which comes off an awful lot like 'you thought saying what I wanted to hear made you safe; you were wrong'.
Personally, I've never believed the way Comey handled the email reopening was innocent; he knew full well what he was doing. But firing the man who is investigating whether you were elected on false pretences was never going to look good.
Meanwhile, in Europe, France has utterly disrespected the spirit of the times by not electing its far-right candidate as President. Weirdos. They did still join in the whole 'overturn the establishment' thing, though, voting in a President from a party/movement that only formed last year.
Do we still have any French Boarders around? It'd be interesting to hear an inside view on why the traditional parties didn't do well in the first round - and why the far-right didn't end up winning after all.
Not News
My town has a WWII memorial (we don't have a WWI one, because the town didn't exist at the time), and some of the names on it are... well:
I can't make up my mind whether this is "Savage" Ivy Muriel, the brutal cricketer whose last match against Australia is the subject of both legend and three separate police reports, or "Savage Ivy", the famous masked wrestler and/or vigilante who spends her days as Muriel the children's librarian.
What kind of cruel parents name their kid "Ernest Stammers"? I mean, there's no way he's coming out of that with his psyche intact.
Finally, the untold story that takes place after the Narnia you know and love. This gritty sequel explores Peter Pevensie's conscription in 1944, his first blooding on D-Day, his meteoric rise through the ranks of the British Army - and his tragic, noble death on the Somme (because, like, there's two World Wars? Who can be bothered to remember that? Hey, one of those writers was at the Somme, wasn't he, Rowling or Tolkein or something like that. Who was the one who wrote Narnia? Let's make it him, and Peter can tell him all the stories while he's dying. Man, we're brilliant.)
... I will give prizes to anyone who writes an encounter between High King Peter, Ernest St-st-st-stammers, and either of the Muriels in the battlefields of Europe.
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Oh, c'mon. by
on 2017-05-13 22:17:00 UTC
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We're gonna talk about taking a whole planetary system and setting the orbital interactions to music and we're not gonna talk about this?
"Everything has to be fandom related these days" indeed. :P -
French Boarder reporting in. by
on 2017-05-13 11:51:00 UTC
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The election here... was a nightmare.
The left had the problem of Hollande's bilan, Macron's candidature, and pretty obvious dissension. When Hamon won the primaries elections, it didn't really netted him the support from the left, his irect opponent (the bad looser) Valls deciding to trow hs lot with Macron from a distance, while the far-left Mélenchon tabled on this to get the fourth place for the first turn (and was an incredibly bad loser too). I thought about voting for Hamon, but after seeing polls only giving him 10%, I switched for Macron.
At the right, Fillion won the first primaries elections from the right ever, clean and fair and square and all (I'd have preferred Juppé), but right after that, revelations about the way he paid his wife for doing pretty much nothing with public moneys and other skeletons just jumped from the closet (real problems, but convenient timing). He was still third, but lost, and now the right isn't looking good either.
So, with the two traditional parties not looking good, the far right cow had this big opportunity, against a 'new' candidate who managed to place himself at the center. After that, between a bad campaign, a bad TV debate with Macron, her own legal matters and chosing another candidate as Prime Minister to steal more votes, she lost without getting her minimal objective of 40%, and her party isn't lookin good either, good news.
The bad news is, she lost, Macron didn't exactly win. He still has the legislatives to win, with a rather rookie formation, and he will announce who his Prime Ministerr would be Sunay or Monay, and this guy will officially be the one leading this battle, an I can tell you that will be a vicious one.
As for Trump news... I rejoin the idea this guy had a fairly conspicuous timing during the election.A pityAnd of course Trump is ungrateful and never heard about the Watergate and Nixon. You cannot listen the radio without hearing about boomakers telling his odds to finish his term are dropping. -
Reactions to this week by
on 2017-05-12 22:15:00 UTC
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To the Fandom News:
That would never be allowed today! Everything has to be extremely political, and of course you aren't allowed to speak at a normal voice level because that's unacceptable! No! You must use the CAPS LOCK OF RAGE AND EXCLAMATION POINTS TO SHOW THE WORLD HOW WRONG THEY ARE!!11!!!!42!(/sarcasm. Typed yelling: not just for fanfic anymore. Argh.)
Anyway, about the movie... Holy crud! Riding a T-rex?! Sorry guys, but honestly, if I were to see that, I would do an immediate face-heel turn out of awe. Farpin' yes! (Ahh, why'd they have to ruin it by making another politician the villain?)
Well, that just about made my day, especially since it reminds me of Wolfenstein 3D, which involves Hitler in a flipping mechsuit. Good old Wolfenstein, those developers at iD Software were such goofballs.
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To the Silly News:
That is cool! My science class has us do "current event" reports every Friday, so I need to do something about that system. The music, as well... I need to watch that sometime soon.
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To the Serious News:
No comment, as usual.
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To the Not News:
This is just like so many name generators... Have all y'all ever been to Seventh Sanctum? The generators combined with the commenting feature is just great, since you get to see what silly stuff other people have received and how they've interpreted them. Great site, great site. As for the names, I'm guessing that the "first last" formatting of the first and last names are "Ivy Muriel Savage" and "Peter King"? That makes it seem less crazy, as Savage and King are both normal last names, and in fact last names of famous people (Adam Savage of Mythbusters and Stephen King.)
Yes, somebody needs to write that story! It'd be a weird crossover, but I guess the reasons for writing it here, as well as the fact that most of us are likely to do it decently, are forgivable.
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Afterword:
...It's kind of funny that I said "Farpin' yes!" at the T-rex thing, considering that my friend sent me this article a while ago... I'm just gonna leave this here...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/04/how-a-fart-killed-10-000-people -
The fandom every British Boarder shares... by
on 2017-05-12 17:28:00 UTC
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... And everyone else should:
The Tenth Wars have got underway! At least, the filming has; given the turnaround for the Ninth Wars, I think we can expect it sometime this autumn. Can the green-striped monster of the West Midlands defend its crown? Will the disc of doom from Reading shred more of its opposition? Might the rocket-powered house robot launcher fromBirminghamAbergele have a new target this series? Will Foxic do anything?
All will be revealed, along with the new-look arena and a full cast of fighting machines from all over the country and beyond, because this. Is. ROBOT WARS!
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Right! So two questions: by
on 2017-05-15 11:11:00 UTC
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1/ What is Foxic (as of the last season) supposed to do? It's got... sort of serrations on its back? But no moving parts? Our best guess was that they want to slip under other robots and carry them around, but, uh... that doesn't actually work?
2/ What would you design as an anti-Carbide robot? From what we've seen in the last two seasons, fellow spinners can't damage either its weapon or its armour; it doesn't care one bit about getting flipped; and... uh... have any of the other weapon designs done anything ever?
My best bet would be an axe - it's flat enough that a good blow would hit something delicate - but I've not seen an axe that actually seems worthwhile. They don't hit hard enough to do any damage.
Hmm... so how to increase the force behind an axe? Maybe a heavy flywheel that you spin up inside the robot, then have the axe snap onto it? If you make your axe lighter than the flywheel, it should keep the momentum.
Of course, the problem with that is that you get exactly one shot, which isn't worth much. ^_^ Plus, hitting either a bot or the floor would probably send you flying. Not the best plan in the world.
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Two answers! by
on 2017-05-15 15:42:00 UTC
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1: Foxic is an electric lifter - the head and arm lift up. However, Craig forgot to put a bolt in the arm (on account of being too busy helping Sabretooth return from the dead) so when he drove it over the floor flipper, it couldn't self-right. Craig is... not a lucky man.
2: You know what? I'd design Foxic. It's an excellent spinner killer, and I have this on fairly good authority. Craig is partly based in North Carolina and he attends RoboGames fairly regularly. The old Foxic fought Last Rites (insanely destructive horizontal bar spinner and current BB champion Tombstone with the serial numbers filed off) to a complete standstill, so it should be able to hold up against Carbide's considerably lighter blade. Tactically? Do what you do against any spinner and rush them before they can get uptae speed now, boysa head of steam. The jolts will damage the weapon armature (this is particularly true for horizontal bars and flywheels, less so for verts and drums) and transmit shock through the machine. We saw in the Eighth Wars that Carbide's bar broke down on Terrorhurtz's Hardox wedge, because that's what works well against horizontal spinners. It's... less good against vertical spinners, as we saw against Aftershock and Sabretooth, but it still works.
Me personally, though? I think I'd go for long lifting forks and a shock-mounted, heavily armoured wedge. The wedge can absorb the impacts, but the forks are the primary component; if they're low to the ground, they can sneak under the blade and lift Carbide up, controlling the fight that way. Bung in some powerful drive motors and you're laughing. =] -
You meant Red Dwarf, right? (nm) by
on 2017-05-12 17:37:00 UTC
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Oh, yeah, that. by
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With the Scutters...
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^ Very large image. Whoops. (nm) by
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You mentioned the Trappist system, so of course... by
on 2017-05-12 15:40:00 UTC
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Gotta make everything fandom related these days. :P
I also bring an offering of local news from my corner of the world. My boss and I actually went and shot some video for a church in this tiny little town of approximately 3000 people, and not long after, well... this happened.
The TL;DR is that the (openly gay) organist admitted to spray-painting a swaistika, "Heil Trump" and "fag church" on the walls of the church back in November.
"I suppose I wanted to give local people a reason to fight for good, even if it was a false flag . . . I of course realize now, this was NOT the way to go about inspiring activism."
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Good grief. by
on 2017-05-12 16:36:00 UTC
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I get it, I really do. One time, when I was a stupid kid, one of my stupid kid friends convinced me to throw rocks at seagulls so that we could catch one, take it home, nurse it back to health, and have it as a pet. This was a terrible idea, and I'm pretty sure I knew it at the time, but I did it anyway because she was my best friend, I worshiped her, and I guess I was feeling extra-gullible that day. Thank goodness, we sucked at throwing rocks and didn't actually hit anything.
But, as it turns out, doing a bad thing in order to do a good thing is never smart, and I expect will almost always fail miserably.
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Texas leading the way? by
on 2017-05-12 14:22:00 UTC
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Shockingly, a white police officer shot and killed another young black guy last Saturday, in this case a fifteen-year-old kid in the passenger seat of a car leaving a party. Only, in this case, the officer has actually been fired from his job and has been charged with murder. We'll have to see if it sticks, but in the meantime, kudos to the police chief in Balch Springs and to the Dallas County judge who signed the warrant. We can't keep letting people get away with this crap.
The TRAPPIST-1 video is awesome. ^_^ It seems like the notes aren't quite tuned to each other, at least not to my ear, but I guess they picked up the frequencies they used from the planets themselves?
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Tuning by
on 2017-05-13 01:20:00 UTC
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Never fear, your friendly neighbourhood acoustician is here!
You're correct, some of the notes are "out of tune".
This might be because they're putting actual data in and it isn't perfectly in whole number ratios (but close enough that the system is still stable). But even if it was, some notes would still sound out of tune according to our modern tuning system. This whole issue is what acoustics and musical theory calls "temperament", and basically relates to how in tune you want/need music to be for different intervals or for playing in different keys.
The resonances that the planets are locked into are based on the harmonic series, where everything is in whole number ratios to a fundamental tone (in this case, half the frequency of the furthermost planet). The higher notes in a harmonic series are slightly "out of tune".
Basically, musical intervals sound 'consonant' to our ears if the frequency ratio is in whole number ratios, and if the numbers in a ratio are small. So an octave (e.g. C-C) is a frequency ratio of 2:1, and a fifth (e.g. C-G) is a frequency ratio of 3:2.
By adding in extra ratios, you can fill in the other notes of the scale, e.g.
C = 1/1
D = 9/8
E = 5/4
F = 4/3
G = 3/2
A = 5/3
B = 15/8
C = 2/1
The issue with using this tuning is that the intervals between the individual notes are not constant (if you divide the ratios together, e.g. D/C, you end up with tones and semitones, as expected, but there are actually two different 'sizes' of tone). So some intervals and some notes may be nicely in tune, but other notes or intervals sound out of tune.
This is all fine if you only ever play major scale music in one key, but if you tune a keyboard to C major in the above tuning scheme (which is called just intonation) and then play in a different key, the intervals will now start off on a different note. Say we tried to play music in D major on that keyboard: the fifth D-A would have a ratio of 1.481, while the fifth C-G would have a ratio of 1.5 (3:2).
In short, using tuning based on whole numbers of frequencies means that only some intervals sound consonant to our ears, and that some ratios (especially if the whole numbers in the ratio are large) will sound "out of tune", and this gets worse for more complex intervals, or where you go over multiple octaves (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_comma for more detail).
This is also why modern pianos use "equal temperament" tuning - every semitone is equally spaced so that pianos can play in every key the same way, but it means that some intervals are very slightly out of tune. It's a compromise between being perfectly in tune in one key and the ability to play in any key. Singers and chamber musicians (e.g. string quartets) tend to use the "just intonation" tuning if left to their own devices without a piano.
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Whooooa, is that even a thing? by
on 2017-05-12 14:27:00 UTC
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I thought American police had that constitutional 'right to bear and indiscriminately use arms' thing going on? [/sarcasm/sarcasm/sarcasm]
Seriously, I've been horrified by the state of America's police (at least the parts that make the news) for a while now; I hope this is the start of a trend towards fixing that. (And, obviously, if the officer charged is innocent, I hope the trial recognises that and they find who did do it.)
TRAPPIST-1 - I did see a comment somewhere that "they could at least have used an in-tune piano". I had to listen to it at work with the sound down low, so I'm not sure how they picked the notes they used.
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It seems pretty clear-cut. by
on 2017-05-12 14:46:00 UTC
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There's camera footage of the whole thing, apparently, which is how they know the car was driving away from the officer, not reversing "aggressively" toward him, when he fired. There doesn't seem to be any question that he done it. IMO, there's no excuse for shooting at a bunch of teens fleeing a busted party, however drunk and rowdy it might have been.
Turns out I was right. System Sounds replied to a comment about the (lack of) tuning with the following:
The notes are slightly out of tune because we used the actual measured orbital frequencies (the resonances have been slightly detuned over the last few billion years, mainly due to tidal forces). You can download the midi file at system-sounds.com in which the notes are quantized to be in tune. We wanted to remain true to the actual system and have as little human input as possible. Thanks for watching!
So that's cool. They also have an example of a system that doesn't have any planets in resonance, the Kepler 90 system, on this page. It's quite a difference! (Herr Wozzeck, this should be right up your alley.)
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I love the planetary music by
on 2017-05-12 13:04:00 UTC
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It's geeky and sort of adorable, which basically sums up the human race as a whole. :D
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The Grand Concilliary is still an ongoing thing. by
on 2017-05-14 10:37:00 UTC
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Since there is some doubt about how many Boarders even look that far down the page, here is a link to follow.
Since Tomash is currently only allowed to post in that one thread, I advise against taking the discussion up here. Please continue commenting on the original thread. Thanks in advance for your – yes your - participation.
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Still a thing, even though it's off the front page now. by
on 2017-05-19 15:21:00 UTC
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I guess it's feeling pretty wound-down now, but if you've got something to say, you might want to do it before the discussion is officially closed, assuming that is a thing that's going to happen.
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I have, I think, at least one more thing to say there. by
on 2017-05-20 19:39:00 UTC
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However, I'm currently in the middle of a two week vacation, so I don't know exactly when I'll manage it. Especially since it's the sort of thing that takes time to formulate properly. I may just let it lie, but... we'll see what happens.
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For the record: by
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I will not be officially closing the Concilliary, or participating any further in it.
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Good to know. by
on 2017-05-19 22:17:00 UTC
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I can give it a go, but in that case it'll have to wait until next weekend.
~Neshomeh
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Happy Mother's Day, everyone! by
on 2017-05-14 17:33:00 UTC
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Please take the time to talk to your moms today, and tell them that you love them as any child should. I'm sure they'll appreciate your gesture and your love as much as you do to them! :)
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You're late. ;) by
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Over here in the good old United Kingdom we celebrated Mothers Day 7 weeks ago. Although I know what you mean and why you've posted.
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New Mission by
on 2017-05-15 16:18:00 UTC
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The story was taken down, but not until after I started working on it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HkVp_SAOG31-RpjxOnXisT82-2yPSXjMN9Bhs_fanVo/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: mission by
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Yeah, I'm going to try to get back into reading and reviewing missions again. >_>
Your writing style does a good job of being very succinct, and getting straight to the point without a lot of extra words cluttering up the sentences. This is especially useful in missions for getting across info from the badfic without copy-pasting huge blocks of text, and you make good use of that here. There were a couple of potentially interesting spots that I feel you could have gone into more detail on—namely, the canons initially arriving in the present, and Holmes making deductions about the profession of a woman in the restaurant, which I feel could have been good moments for the agents to look at with a critical eye, as they would especially be indicators of how out-of-character Holmes was. Then again, I don't know if the original fic presented those scenes with enough material for you to really do anything with.
I'm not sure the canons themselves were quite out-of-character enough to be treated as replacements, although I know that's a subjective thing for each PPC author. In particular, the sentence, "Without being told, Holmes easily lied and said that his last name was Jones," seems to indicate that you felt Holmes would need guidance in having to mislead someone, but (at least in the novel canon; I haven't seen the movies) Holmes is a master of disguising his clothing, voice and demeanor to hide his identity. He would certainly have no trouble coming up with a fake name, especially since the plan to fool the mothers had been thought of in advance.
I'm also a bit confused by the final charging scene. I understand Holmes and Watson being killed, since you're treating them as replacements, and I'm glad your agents neuralyze the mothers and return them to their regular lives, but where did the two daughters go? It seems to me that, if the mothers are being treated as "canons" and returned to their lives, their daughters should be, too. And I rather had the impression that the flat the daughters was living in was their actual home, before the fic started, so wouldn't they just get neuralyzed and stay there?
I do like the last line, "'Come on, we have paperwork to fill out.'" I usually think of agents writing up mission reports that resemble our missions when they report said mission, but I like the idea that these agents are just going to file ordinary paperwork when they get home, and that they both need to participate. A tiny little detail, that makes a lot of sense.
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I think the fic did give me enough detail to work on with the deduction, maybe not with them arriving. I'll work more to flesh those out.
Hmmm, I think perhaps I'll rely on September's unreliableness to question the lie.
I do need to work on the ending some more, maybe work in the deletion. In the original draft, I had the Sues sent to the OFU. I kinda don't want to leave them in the story, but I'm also not recruiting them for my own use. Miguel was TimeJumper's IRL friend, and it seems uncomfortable that he's an agent. -
Inital impressions by
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As far as stories go, it's not a bad one. On the one hand, I did not detect any technical errors, but on the other, the story seemed kinda flat to me. Granted, not every mission needs to be an epic adventure, but IMHO, this one seemed pretty cookie-cutter: quote badfic, cite charge, repeat. There did not seem to be any conflict between the Agents and the Sues.
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I don't want to kill the Sues, but I don't want to recruit them or leave them in the story either. They were going to be sent to the OFU.
I need to rework the ending.
I think also that Kelly needs to snark at them more.
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Concerning the "Sues" by
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Since they appear to have actually been Transdimensional Snatchers, I guess they have been despatched to their real life in World One or wherever they belong. I remember some discussion about whether we still write Despatch missions or what else to do in such cases.
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Yeah, I need to rework the ending. I didn't want to leave them in the story, and I didn't want to kill them. I also don't want to recruit them for myself. Miguel was TimeJumper's IRL friend, and it seems wrong for him to be an agent.
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Not bad. by
on 2017-05-16 17:04:00 UTC
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I'm currently sick and too tired to do a proper review, but I'm going to link this on the wiki – and maybe also review – as soon as I feel better.
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While you're here... by
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I'd like to make you aware of the follow-up to your apology down-Board, if you haven't already seen it. This post is the acceptance of your apology, and the conditions for that acceptance. The community decided to make it a bit more clear and we added this amendment.
I'd encourage you to acknowledge that you understand all of this and, of course, feel free to ask any questions you have.
Now, I apologize for derailing your Mission thread, but this is important and I wanted to make sure you see it.
-Phobos
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The Blind Beta Workshop! by
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It's been a week, and proposal one seems to be the most popular. So here we go. The first ever Blind Beta Workshop!
Anyone who wants to participate needs to write a one to three page short story or scene. This can be PPC stuff, original fiction, fan fiction, or whatever else your little heart desires. Keep in mind that if you do write something related to the PPC, it might reveal who you are. If you're okay with that, then go for it. Also, please do not use another person's PPC agents unless they have given you permission.
Once that's done, post your story to the board anonymously (thank you to Cat-on-the-Keyboard for suggesting this and making my life a little easier). To post something anonymously, simply don't fill in your author space. Or create a fake name, in the vein of the Badfic Games. It's up to you.
As other people post their own work, read through their pieces and beta them. Provide feedback on anything and everything ranging from SPaG to consistency to how it made you feel. Post those thoughts under the piece anonymously. If you're looking for an example of (what I think is) good betaing, I made a post about it here. If you want to give feedback on someone else's beta work, then do so! Same practice applies here as normal betaing.
If at any point you want to reveal yourself, you are welcome to do so (though that does sort of defeat the point). After a few weeks, I will call upon all participants to reveal themselves.
A few more points:
— Follow the Constitution. Be respectful and courteous with your comments. This should be a no-brainer.
— You don't have to post a piece if you just want to beta, but if you post a piece then you SHOULD beta.
— Do not try to publicly guess who everyone is. That's not the point of this game. Even if it's really easy to guess, just don't do it.
And with that, let's begin. Have fun, and good writing! -
a story (warning for NSFW language, lots of it) by
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After a second knock at RC 777's door remained unanswered, Agent Therwin shrugged. "I was hoping you could meet our founding members, but they must not be in right now. Sorry."
"Oh, that's all right," said the newest recruit to Misplaced Flora and Fauna. "I'm sure I'll see them around at lunch soon enough." She was so frustratingly average-looking—average build, average height, and with pale skin, straight blond hair and an open, wide-eyed face—that Therwin would have assumed she was a rescued Generic if he didn't already know she had come in through a World One recruitment program. She—Gwenda—also tended to wear a friendly, but clearly artificial, smile whenever Therwin was looking. He suspected it was forced for the sake of social expectation, rather than any intention to deceive, but that didn't make it any less off-putting.
"Uh, well, time is a bit unreliable in that regard . . ." Therwin himself was a tall, muscular man with short, curly hair and very dark skin, thanks to the hours of sunlight his two jobs exposed him to. His muscular physique came naturally, with not real exercise on his part, and he was always a bit self-conscious of it. Prejudice against Suvian traits aside, a muscular, powerful man who worked with wild animals was a bit of a stereotype, and one that he knew wasn't really true to life. "Anyway, our department is split into divisions, the Floral and Faunal. While you've been assigned to the Faunal Division, you should expect some overlap in your missions, since we're all specialists in specialized fields. You'll be assigned a temporary partner with knowledge of plants if you're ever given a mission that's outside your experience."
"Oh, that's just fine." That same forced smile. "I'd leave to meet more of my team!"
Therwin kept his face neutral, but on the inside, he was starting to worry. Gwenda was putting off too much of a "sheltered house wife" vibe for his tastes. "So, Gwenda, what interested you in the DMFF in the first place?" He steeled himself for the usual First Four Words.
"I just love animals! My kids got me interested in fanfiction back home, and I couldn't believe some of the ways animals are used in the stories, reduced to nothing but plot points, or mindless slaves to the Mary Sue. When I discovered my daughter worked at this place, and there was actually something I could do to help all those sweet, innocent creatures, I just had to!" Throughout her explanation, Gwenda's forced smile had slowly slipped away, leaving a much more serious and determined look in its place.
Therwin nodded, pleased. At the very least, she had more technical knowledge of the fanfiction side of the job than he had expected. "Glad to hear it, Gwenda, and glad to have you on the team."
Gwenda beamed, a much more natural smile this time.
Therwin smiled to himself as they passed the partly open door of a certain RC, though it wasn't such a nice smile. "Say, looks like another member of the team is in. Let's say hello, shall we? Hey, Ashe!" He knocked lightly and pushed it open further.
"What?" demanded a female voice from inside.
Greta brought forth her token forced smile. though it faltered a bit when she saw that the speaker was a somewhat frumpy woman wearing flannel and sitting on a bed, her arms elbow deep in a bucket, in which she appeared to be mixing mud by hand. The woman had all the hair on one side of her head shaved down to fuzz, and the fuzzy part and the longer part were both in shades of blue normally associated with cotton candy.
"Watch for Big Red," said Ashe. "She's on the floor somewhere."
"Gwenda, this is Agent Ashe, who's also Faunal Division."
"That's Awesome Ashe, damn it!"
"That's not an official title," Therwin explained quietly.
"YES IT IS."
"Ashe, this is our division's newest recruit, Gwenda."
"Oh, hey!"
Gwenda, however, was distracted by the four foot lizard that had just emerged from under the bed. It's cales were mostly brick red with some black marbling across its back in no particular pattern. It tasted the air with its tongue, saw (or smelled) the newcomers, and made a beeline for the door.
Gwenda shrank back behind Therwin, who held one foot out between himself and the approaching lizard. Big Red reached them, leaped up, and sank its teeth harmlessly into the leather boot.
"Agh! Motherf-cker," swore Ashe, pronouncing it weirdly, like she was self-censoring the letter "u." The woman jumped up from the bed and hurried over to her lizard, whose jaws seemed absolutely cavernous to Gwenda. They were stretched way open to wrap around the man's shoe.
Ashe picked up Big Red under its arms and gently shook the lizard, growling, "No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o" until the lizard let go. "Jesus," Ashe said, "stop trying to bite people, you're not hungry, you just got fed yester—OH MY GOD." Big red had tried whip its head around and latch on to her arm. Ashe, illogically, turned Big red around until it was nose-to-nose with her. "Don't try to bite me you asshole! I f-cking love you." Big Red licked her nose.
Therwin smiled, while Gwenda continued to look a bit shell-shocked.
Ashe turned and marched her lizard over to a large hole torn in the wall, floor to ceiling, which contained an entire, rough-walled room with a stone pool and branches. The floor inside was still a bit damp with soapy water. "I'm sorry," Ashe said as she walked, "she's just grumpy 'cause I'm cleaning her home and replacing her substrate, so she has to act like a little bitch about it."
"It's fine," Therwin said calmly.
Gwenda began taking in the rest of Ashe's RC. Huge holes had been torn into the walls all around the room, and each one housed some large and bizarre animals. A huge metal rack along one wall was filled with little glass and plastic and wire tanks, decorated with plants and stones and cork-board. Other, larger tanks sat throughout the room, with larger creatures inside. A pink, fox-like animal sat sleeping on the pillow of the bed, where it had been obscured by Ashe when Gwenda had first entered the room. Even the ceiling had somehow been torn into, raising up in a rough cone shape to end in a skylight—Gwenda hadn't been in Headquarters long enough to realize how odd that part was. The cone was filled with tree branches, which served as perches for a collection of modern reptiles,ancient wined reptiles, web-sitting spiders, and one huge bird of paradise that sat way up in the top.
As Ashe rejoined the other agents, Gwenda remarked, "You . . . certainly keep a lot of pets here!"
"Pets?" said Ashe. "Oh, no, I just take care of them. Makes me feel good. Also, they're all just f-cking awesome."
The bird of paradise let out a shrill keen, and Ashe turned her head to reply with a poor imitation. "Daaaaaaaaaaaaw!" She turned back and grinned. "F-cking awesome."
Gwenda stared for several seconds before forcing out an, "I'm sure!"
"Well, we'd better get going," said Therwin.
"Oh, sure thing." Ashe smiled brightly at Gwenda and waved, despite being still next to her. "See you around! Maybe we'll get a mission together someday!"
Gwenda forced her strongest smile yet. "Oh, yes! That would be wonderful!" She backed out of the RC, turned on one heel and started walking swiftly away, leaving Therwin to follow after.
Before he could get too far, however, he heard a quiet, "You f-cking bastard asshole."
He turned back to Ashe. "What?" he asked, his eyebrows raised in mock innocence.
Ashe narrowed her eyes and shook her head, still smiling. "You always bring the newbies by my room."
Therwin shrugged. "They deserve to know what they're getting into."
Ashe chuckled, a low, "Huhuhuhuhuhuh. F-cking bastard."
A/N: Obviously, the question of whether the DMFF needs separate divisions for plant and animal focus doesn't have a place in this thread. Once I'm ready to get this spin-off properly off the ground, I'll bring it up again for the Board to discuss before moving forward.
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Ok, so running log of thoughts:
- I'm liking the descriptions in the 2nd paragraph (I got a small stack overflow with the dashed-off list of things that were average, but I'm putting that down to not seeing much of em dashes being used as blackets, so not really anything against you)
- The "himself" in "Therwin himself" feels redundant somehow. I was expecting (if there was anything but the name) soem sort of sentence element indicating contrasts.
- "with not real" -> "with no real"?
- "I'd leave to meet" -> "I'd love to meet"
- At this point, I want to know what's up with that smile
- Those First Four Words should have been predictable
- Is Gwenda's daughter already an agent you've published about?
- That's an interesting change of expression.
- Can see why Therwin would be releived, assuming the implication that there's a bunch of shiny newbies who love animals and have no idea about the whole fanfiction thing applying to DMFF is correct
- Re: next pair of smiles. Glad to see Gwenda is getting more comfortable. Also (from previous reading) Therwin, what are you doing?
- Hm. Ok, said smile seems to be a forced social interaction thing
- Why is Ashe mixing mud, and what happened to half her hair? (she seems like the sort of person who doesn't care much about the expectaitons for dress, as shown by the flannel and the blue, so it could be intentional, but probably not)
- I get the feeling the conversaiton about "Awesome Ashe" has happened a lot
- You know more about lizards than I do, so I'm assuming that running for the door and biting a boot are both normal behaviors
- Took me a moment to figure out it was Therwin's boot, given that Ashe swore right afterwards (also, explaining that the dash was pronounced is funny)
- "tried whip" -> "tried to whip". Also "Big red" -> "Big Red' right before that
- Can't blame Gwenda for being shocked by this.
- Rotating the lizard around is also, I take it, a reasonable thing to do?
- Ah, that's why there's a lizard running around the RC
- The description of the RC is a good level of vivid. I can imagen what's going on, but it doesn't feel like I've had a picture shoved down my throat
- Is Ashe ... sane? Probably not, PPC
- Gwenda is, from what I can tell, super not looking forward to the prospect of a mission with Ashe
- Ok, so Therwin usually takes the newbies by Ashe's to give them an idea of what they actually signed up for. Makes sense.
- I'm going to guess that Ashe is unhappy about that because she'd prever not to be bothered by people? It's a bit hard to tell
Broad thoughts:
- I got a pretty good idea of how the characters act, and a slightly less clear (esp. with Ashe) idea of what they're like. That is, it's a bit tricky to build an idea of how these guys (mainly Ashe and Gwenda, Therwin seems a bit easier to pin down) think. To be fair, it's a short peice, and a lot of that sort of thing gets established over time. This could also just be me.
- The meta-ish stuff (First Four Words, funny pronounciation of the swears, the bit about th pleudo-skylight benig really weird, not that Gwenda would know, etc.) was well-done
- Big Red is cool
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First, responding to some of your individual points:
-I'm glad the descriptions were decent, as that's one of my weak points in writing. (Looking back, I see I've failed to describe Gwenda's or Therwin's clothes much. :( ) I admit, I don't really have a good mind's eye view of Gwenda yet, hence the fall-back on "average everything." I do tend to use em dashes for breaks in narration rather than parentheses, since the latter feels a little "in-text author's note" to me.
-"Therwin himself" is to separate Therwin's description from Gwenda's in the previous paragraph, though I see your point that it may not be needed in light of being in separate paragraphs.
-Thank you for pointing out typos!
-Gwenda's daughter has not yet appeared on screen. In fact, I didn't know she had a daughter in the PP...il I got to that paragraph . . .
-I suspect the DMFF gets quite a few applicants who "just love animals," whether they're familiar with fanfiction/the PPC or not!
-I did fail to explain the "mud," partly due to pacing. It's actually coconut fiber, often used as substrate for reptiles. It starts out as dry bricks, but breaks apart into a somewhat muddy damp mess when soaked in water. I'll be sure to explain that better in the published version.
-Ashe's hair is cut (and dyed) the way she likes it. :)
-Big Red's behaviors in this story are 100% true-to-life for a certain lizard I know.
-Re: mistaking Therwin's boot for being on Ashe: I had an unusual amount of difficulty in this story following the "one paragraph per one character's actions" guideline, partly due to pacing. I'll be sure to look at those paragraphs, and this one in particular to see if I can make them more clear.
-re: Gwenda being shocked: The main "theme" of this story (if a story this short can be said to have one) is the difference of perspective between someone who works closely with animals daily, and someone who . . . shall we say likes the concept of animals, without having much practical hands-on experience with them? And I think Therwin understands that difference, and the potential for problems it creates both ways, better than the other two characters here.
-Glad the Rc description is good (though I do tend to be better with location descriptions than character descriptions). I know it's a bit more modification than most RCs see, and I'll definitely need to address why Ashe's hasn't been raided by BM yet, but this story didn't have space for that explanation.
-I meant to get across that Ashe was amused by Therwin using her RC as a "breaking-in" of newbies, by her laughter. I'll check that paragraph out more closely on my second go-through as well.
-I am disappointed that I didn't manage to get across Gwenda's and Ashe's thought patterns more clearly, as their opposing worldviews was meant to be a main point of this story. In retrospect, I did end up writing it mostly from Therwin's point-of-view, when it might have been better served from Gwenda's perspective. On the other hand, as you said, it's a very short piece, and is really just an introduction for a new spin-off, where the characters will have a lot more space to grow moving forward. I'll have to stop and consider whether overhauling this whole story to be Gwenda's narrative voice will be worth it in the long run.
In a more broad sense: I'm typically used to getting beta work done in prose/paragraph form, rather than as bullets, but I found I rather liked it this way. It makes it easier for me to address each point without losing anything amidst a set of prose. Also, when I do beta work, I often save the typing for the end, so i can address the whole story from a thematic, whole perspective, but I may sometimes miss smaller questions that way. I think I may try this approach in the future, at least in part.
I also like that your responses are mostly calling my writing decisions into question. I know there's a saying that a beta should have bad points sandwiched in between good points, but honestly, I like getting bad points better, as that shows me what needs to get fixed. Pointing out the good places is good too, but knowing the RC description came out well means I can look past it now; it's the problem areas I like to focus on in a review.
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Return of the Original Fic! by
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So ages ago I wrote a piece from an original fic, and I remember some of you guys really liking it. The universe it is set in has gone through a couple of iterations since then and this is from the latest of those, so you'll possibly recognize a few names at least. Without further ado I give you... Part 1:
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This is an Excerpt from a no-holds-barred interview with the famous Ward of The Protectors, the most well known, and some even say first, hero group in the world to date:
“Origin stories? Wow you do want to set us up like superheroes don’t you.
But no, we’re not superheroes darling, we’re very much not. Perhaps Anti-hero would be a better way of describing us. We defend humanity, those with powers and those without, but when we do so, we don’t hold back, we do what we need to do when we need to do it to get the job done and to harm as few people as possible. But that doesn’t always mean we don’t kill anyone, especially when you think in the long term. How many times must someone break out of prison and threaten others lives before you realise that you should put them down for good? With us, that’s once if we’re being nice.
So yes, origin stories. Well I mean we weren’t bitten by radioactive animals when we were younger if that’s what you’re wondering. Each of us is a human naturally born with powers, and whilst we think we know where that’s from it is something I cannot actually reveal.
Some of us were friends long before we realised we had powers, hell James, or Tempest as you know him, and I went to the same pre-school together and worked our way up to Uni together. But university is where it all began, when our powers really began to come into their own, with the mysterious eighteenth birthday thing that couldn’t get more cliche if you’d tried, and a lot of student drinking.
Don’t ask why it helped but it did.
Now like I said, it was at university when it all started happening. We were all freshers and so were experiencing freedom for the first time. Hell some of us barely knew more than one person at first, and in Nick’s case that was because I’d somehow ended up in his bed one night after partying during freshers week.
I was studying Engineering at Imperial College, I can’t remember what everyone else was studying, but we all eventually started to mingle in similar sorts of societies and friendship groups that existed cross-universities, learning about our powers and how we could use them, in secret of course because when the government weren’t ignoring us like we didn’t exist, they were, like the rest of the world, trying to get us executed or whatever for being ‘unnatural abominations’ and the like.
So yeah, that may be where some of our hate and extreme tendencies come from, but it was necessary, or at least so we thought.
Our first real adventure together came about halfway through the second semester of our first year. We’d started actual discussion about whether to become heroes over christmas, using our social media stuff to message each other, bouncing ideas for everything from codenames to costumes between each other. But our first real chance to shine came around the end of February.
So I’m not sure if you remember, but right when this was all happening there were quite a few groups worldwide who were ‘discreetly’ getting rid of those humans with powers whilst paying, or sometimes even getting paid, as the government's looked the other way. Well we’d found one that had operated in London and decided to shut them down.
They weren’t the hardest prey looking back at it now. Probably about a dozen of them, they spent quite a lot of time spying on and researching their latest target before they struck and got out of there to a warehouse they were using as a base near Dover.
So we get a train and then a couple of taxi’s down into Dover itself, claiming to the taxi drivers when they asked that we were going to get drunk with some old friends who lived that way. And, once the drivers were gone, walked back out of town to get to our real destination.
Anyway, we find the rough area that the warehouse was in and Lucy and Nick, sorry Ghost and Spectre move forward, Spectre slipping from shadow to shadow and Ghost casually walking through the other warehouses, completely invisible and intangible checking each one as she went. The rest of us followed, Telath keeping us all linked up so we could ‘hear’ one another and talk telepathically if we needed to.
So we get to the warehouse to find it almost completely empty as it seems the group have gone to get another target. There’s a couple of guys left inside who’re meant to be watching the base but between an open skylight, Falcon’s flying skills, Clone’s transformations and Ghost and Spectre we were able to get three people inside without them realising and from there it was easy for the three of them to take down the two guards (and steal some of their pizza whilst they were at it). I never learnt the full detail, I didn’t want to know then and I’ve never asked since. All I know is that it wasn’t lethal.
But yeah, we have to sit down and wait for the rest of the group to arrive, not knowing where they’ve gone or when they’ll be back with just a single pizza to keep us entertained. Thankfully the nearest supermarket hadn’t closed and so a couple of the guys went off and bought a large amount of energy drinks which we used to try and keep ourselves awake.
Now it was about 4am when the rest of the group came back, they had a girl I remember who had the ability to control water. But they drag her inside expecting to be greeted by their buddies and instead find the nine of us half asleep instead. Both sides take like a minute to realise what’s happened and then we get into what had to be the most tired fight in history. We managed to win when Telath thought about sleep so much she broadcast it out at everybody and the group and half of us just collapsed and fell asleep.
So the group had cells on sight and so those of us who were still awake stuffed them in there before giving everyone who’d fallen asleep kind of comfortable places to stay before going to sleep ourselves.
We woke up about 1pm the next day, utterly confused, then elated at what we’d done… And then half of us realised it was a Monday and we’d missed at least one lecture, which caused a little bit of panic as we tried to work out what we’d say to our lecturers. Because “Sorry I missed the lecture because I was asleep after a hard night of fighting crime,” wasn’t going to cut it we figured.
Our second problem arose when we realised that we had no idea what to do with the group that we’d just beaten. We were still fairly idealistic at that point and the thought of simply killing them never crossed our minds. So we realised we couldn’t turn them into the police because they’d just be let out again almost immediately and our words would sooner get us all into trouble than get anything done, or get justice for all the problems the group had caused.
It was Cassie, the girl we’d rescued, who came up with an answer and so skipping the rest of Monday and spending it relaxing we headed out Monday night with the unconscious members of the group and managed to set it up so that they were all arrested for public indecency the next morning. The police didn’t believe their story about us, and so we managed to get away scott free. Not that we knew it until Cassie (who turned out to be a local) let us know because we hadn’t heard anything about it up in London where we had returned post haste.
So yeah, that was our first adventure together, our ‘origin story’ if you could call it that. Cassie is still a good friend and has helped a couple of times, most recently in the Normandy Incident, which I’m sure you’ll want me to tell you all about later.”
To read the first part of this exclusive interview turn to page 23 and make sure to get your newspapers for the rest of the week as Ward talks his way through the entire history of The Protectors.
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For me, the thing that stands out the most in this story is the sense of time it gets across in very subtle ways. The change in the world's attitude towards powered people is communicated not just through Ward telling us of the "hunter" groups from his college days, but also, in retrospect, from the fact that he's being interviewed about his heroism in a newspaper, with his team's real names revealed. Another example is the cynicism of Ward's present attitude when compared to the event he recalls, when his group didn't even think about killing their captives, and instead got them arrested for indecency instead. The one weakness to it is that there isn't really a "pay-off" to Ward's cynicism, as it felt at the start that there would be sort of a worldview-changing moment for him—but you did say this is only "part 1," so maybe that's coming up further along in the story.
All in all, a different and interesting way to set up your setting's world-building early on.
Typos and stuff:
"How many times must someone break out of prison and threaten others lives before you realise that you should put them down for good?"
"Others" needs an apostrophe.
"So I’m not sure if you remember, but right when this was all happening there were quite a few groups worldwide who were ‘discreetly’ getting rid of those humans with powers whilst paying, or sometimes even getting paid, as the government's looked the other way."
Ah, the apostrophe escaped and hid inside of "governments."
"Now it was about 4am when the rest of the group came back . . ."/"We woke up about 1pm the next day . . ."
The time . . . descriptors? . . . should have periods after each letter, as they're abbreviations of Latin words. ("a.m." and "p.m.")
"Because 'Sorry I missed the lecture because I was asleep after a hard night of fighting crime,' wasn’t going to cut it we figured."
Since "we figured" is the actual subject and main verb of this sentence, it reads really awkwardly for them to be tacked on to the end of it. I would move them right to the front as, "Because we figured,' . . .'" There should also be a comma after "figured" since it's leading in to dialogue. (Even if you don't want to move "we figured," there should still be a comma after "because," and also after "cut it": " . . . wasn't going to cut it, we figured."
"It was Cassie, the girl we’d rescued, who came up with an answer and so skipping the rest of Monday and spending it relaxing we headed out Monday night with the unconscious members of the group and managed to set it up so that they were all arrested for public indecency the next morning."
This sentence is two independent clauses with the dependent clause, "and so skipping the rest of Monday and spending it relaxing" in between. As written, you need commas splitting those parts up: " . . . who came up with an answer, and so, skipping the rest of Monday and spending it relaxing, we headed out Monday night . . ." However, it feels like a bit of an overly large sentence to me, and it can easily be split apart. I think I would personally say, "It was Cassie, the girl we’d rescued, who came up with an answer. So, skipping the rest of Monday and spending it relaxing, we headed out Monday night with the unconscious members of the group and managed to set it up so that they were all arrested for public indecency the next morning." There are probably other ways to do it, though.
"To read the first part of this exclusive interview turn to page 23 and make sure to get your newspapers for the rest of the week as Ward talks his way through the entire history of The Protectors."
I like this last line's inclusion, since it reinforces the newspaper interview aspect. It needs commas, though! It's also another sentence that doesn't need to be as long as it, especially since it's intended as a blurb at the end of an article/bottom of a page. My take would be, "To read the first part of this exclusive interview, turn to page 23. And make sure to get your newspapers for the rest of the week, as Ward talks his way through the entire history of The Protectors." Some exclamation points might not hurt, either. -
Wandering around Headquarters. by
on 2017-05-17 21:08:00 UTC
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Daniel loved wandering the hallways. While most people saw only a maze of nondescript gray corridors, he could pick out subtle details and memorize interesting routes.
Most of his navigational superpower was the ability to not think of a rhinoceros with a teacup after being told not to think about it. Since he only didn't want to go back to his quarters, he kept part of his attention on wanting to go back there.
He noticed a wet patch on the floor and raindrops falling from the ceiling. He squinted upwards and could barely make out a lighter shade of grey. Daniel had never seen a ventilation plothole opening directly into the sky before, and wondered if it was unstable. He made a mental note to check on it again later.
After a half hour of wandering, and seeing nothing more interesting than a trail of sue-blood, Daniel made a left turn into one of his favorite hallways. Though there was nothing to erode the walls, the concrit had begun to crumble. He stared closely, trying to pick phrases out of the fossilized words.
When he was tired of staring at walls, Daniel began walking again. He trailed his hand lightly along the wall, knowing that he could feel the invisible intersections. That's when he had the feeling that he was being followed. He made a quick left turn and then spun around. A woman almost ran into him.
“Sorry.” She stepped to the side and walked down the corridor.
Daniel jogged to catch up with her. “Why were you following me?”
“You seemed to know where you were going.”
He'd heard of this. “Oh, you're using the Dirk Gently method. Follow me.”
Daniel began walking at a brisk pace. He turned left when he smelled fudge and right at the desire to sing showtunes. Soon, they came upon a stairwell and Daniel stopped to point. “That couch got wedged so that no one can move it.”
The woman blinked dispassionately. “I see.”
“I thought you would find it interesting. Now I remember what happens when you assume.” He began walking again and the woman followed.
After exiting the stairwell, they made a two-hundred-and-seventy-degree turn to follow a warm breeze. Then they then walked though the desire to take bleep products, though Daniel couldn't identify it. Most agents would either reach into their pockets or grit their teeth at that point, but he was a simple cafeteria worker and didn't have any missions to block out. The woman was impassive.
After five more left turns, he asked, “By the way, where are you going?”
“I am here.” The woman pointed to the door to RC 51724. “Thank you.”
“Good luck.” Daniel began walking again. -
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This is an interesting little piece. It actually feels more like a character study of Headquarters's typical hallways than anything else. It works pretty well in that regard; there are definitely some new and unique ideas here. Ventilation plotholes are a logical idea, but also a bit dangerous in the sense of letting wildlife, diseases, and potential allergens like pollen through, not to mention the question of what happens when a larger aircraft flies into the plothole's space. Then again, the narration mentions it's the first one Daniel encountered that directly opened to sky, so maybe that's not the standard. I just generally like some of the imagination you put into some of these concepts: breaking concrit exposing fossilized words, physical locations marked by different sensations and feelings, the implied backstory of a couch blocking a stairway. They all feel like they fit into HQ, and it's a bit surprising some of this design space hasn't been touched on before.
You've put so much focus on the setting, however, that I do feel like the characters have suffered for it. I can infer some sense of Daniel's personality, insofar as he's clearly a bit of a dreamy personality: spending his off-time wandering HQ alone, learning tiny details about the walls and such. His position as a Cafeteria worker adds to this impression, since he doesn't need the aggressive mindset of most action department agents. His dialogue . . . I think you were aiming for a bit of an airy Luna Lovegood voice? You succeeded with a few lines ("'I thought you would find it interesting. Now I remember what happens when you assume.'"), but for the most part, it just comes out as a bit dull and basic ("'Why were you following me?'" "'By the way, where are you going?'") The female agent has almost no development at all, though it appears she is indeed just a background character, rather than an agent you're planning to use, so maybe that was intentional? But it still contributes to the blandness of Daniel's dialogue, since they make no real attempt to get to know each other. Neither one of them is described, either.
So ultimately, very imaginative descriptions and world-building, but the characters need more description and development. -
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Thanks, your review does give insight.
The woman is actually my most-used character. She has a spell that makes her "actively defy description" which means that people don't really notice what she looks like beyond their expectations. I also felt that she would be recognized here, but mostly it is the spell.
Daniel, or Larry as he was originally, has always suffered a bit from cardboard characterization. Long story, but part of that is from his meta origins and I'm hoping it will go away as a I work with him. Right now he's on the spectrum. He's supposed to be friendly, I'll dial that up a bit.
I was actually thinking more about the ventilation plotholes and how there might be infestation. I was thinking that the pollen problems might be caused by the bosses, though. My headcanon is that they're normally winding ductwork, but there still is the problem of cross-contaminating different worlds with invasive species.
I also think that anyone with a decent bookshelf has micro-fissures going into Library space, but that would mean that most of Headquarters smells like old books.
I have seen a PPC story, somehow Doctor Who shows up during the blackout I think. They described the hallways of the PPC cutting through the Screaming shack and Minecraft tunnels.
I need to rewrite this more with Larry as the focus.
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This is meant to be anonymous remember. (nm) by
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Read-through Notes (stream-of-consciousness-style):
- I also love wandering the hallways. Vicariously through characters, anyway.
- Daniel can memorize routes through HQ? That's very impressive, if useless enough to not be overpowered.
- I understand this superpower.
- Lighter shade of grey = clouds?
- Didn't know we had ventilation plotholes. Makes sense, though.
- The trail of sue-blood seems boring to our hero. I kinda want to know why it's there.
- Crumbling concrit? Someone needs to get Building Maintenance on that. Also, is it made of fossilized words? I don't think I've ever heard that before. More research may be necessary.
- I know I've heard of Dirk Gently, but I can't quite place the name. More research definitely necessary.
- I like the feelings that get thrown in. I can see them being very confusing to agents. "Why do I smell fudge?" "I don't even know any showtunes. Why do I want to sing them?"
- They never entered the stairwell, did they?
- "Then they then" You can cut a "then" from that sentence.
- Cafeteria worker, eh? I had wondered.
General Thoughts:
There are some very interesting things going on in this piece. The non-visual descriptions of the surroundings are not something we see often and, in this case, help to "tilt" the world a little. It makes the whole thing a little more surreal, which I liked.
As interesting as the surroundings were, though, the two characters were not. They were kind of bland and featureless. We don't get any description of them, at all. We know little about Daniel, and less about the woman. And the few times we do get any indication of what they are feeling we get "he was tired of staring at walls" and "The woman blinked dispassionately." It might work better if Daniel was openly excited about the details that only he knows about, and is disappointed when the woman is dispassionate and aloof. That, at least, would give you two levels to play off of and break up the monotony.
So, to summarize, the world building that you did was good. The characters need some fleshing out. There is potential here, I think. -
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The lighter shade of gray was clouds, also the rain was a hint.
Ventilation plotholes are my invention, I think.
The trail of Sue-blood seems like something almost standard in the hallways. Janitor story. I think I'll re-work that part.
The concrit being made of fossilized words, I once read a story where a pair of agents decided to break through the wall into the next RC over to make a mini adoption center. I remember that they could hear the concrit that the wall was made of.
Kitty Eden summed up the Dirk Gently method for me nicely.
I have a feeling that most agents don't notice much of anything in the hallway, except for other agents.
I'll work some more on the characters, or at least Daniel. The woman is supposed to be a bit underdescribed. -
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Jumping in here for information provision, hope you don't mind! Dirk Gently is a detective character created by the late Douglas Adams (who has recently got a pretty darn good TV show adaptation!) who uses the methods of 'holism' in order to solve his mysteries. Holism basically is the belief that everything is connected to everything else. He solves cases mainly by following fate, and- weirdly enough- it often does work, rather well.
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*headdesk* i missed the point WHOOPS by
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Also should have added that Dirk usually gets where he needs to go by picking a random person who 'looks like they know where they're going' and just kinda... stalking them. Even more weirdly, this also seems to work. He gets where he needs to go quite often, I mean.
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I think the last time I tried to read Dirk Gently was when Douglas Adams was still alive. I didn't like it, but I remember so much, like the sofa.
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A bit of a longer fic by
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Fanfic from a very small fandom, in fact- an excellent little series called Ruby Redfort, which is a great read if you like really cool codes and spy organisations. This is from a longer character/friendship study, but the basic gist of the situation is that Ruby and Hitch (spy butler dude) are at a rather boring party because of her parents. Ruby's been playing a game for a while involving a travelling lemon (I may have been inspired by Cabin Pressure, haha), and- well. i'll stop rambling and post the fic, shall I?
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“Hey buster, you look bored,” said Ruby, who had appeared at his elbow. He glanced down at her, and offered a half-shrug.
“It’s not too bad,” he said. “I can deal.” Internally, he was hoping desperately that she’d find some way to shake things up without actually causing any sort of damage. God was this party dull.
“Sure you can,” she scoffed. “Just a house full of people who’d rather talk about their social life than anything interesting.” She grinned, and held up a lemon that she had produced from seemingly nowhere. “What say we stir this party up a bit?”
He eyed it for a moment, trying not to smile. “You’re aware of the presence of the President of Yugoslavia at this party, I’m sure.”
“And the Prime Minister of Nepal,” Ruby nodded, and tossed the lemon up into the air before snatching it easily. “That’s why we’re playing airplane rules tonight.”
He leaned on the nearest table, the smile creeping across his face despite himself. “Dare I ask what ‘airplane rules’ entail?” What a kid.
Ruby’s smile mirrored his. She looked obviously thrilled that he had decided to play along. Apparently she had been just as bored as he was. “Well, the usual rules apply, of course.”
“Of course,” Hitch agreed blandly.
“Apart from that- well, I hide the lemon in plain sight, you have to locate and retrieve it without anybody noticing, and then hide it again for me. If anybody spots either of us with the lemon, the game’s forfeit.”
“How long does this usually go on for?”
Ruby offered up a sheepish shrug. “Hours, sometimes. The longest I’ve ever played was a rally of about 32.”
“You and Clancy, I assume,” Hitch guessed, smiling faintly.
“Ambassador Crew’s Christmas party, year of ’69,” Ruby said fondly. “And what a night that was.” She frowned. “We would have gone on for longer if the cook hadn’t found the thirty-third hiding spot before I did. She decided that lemon would be a neat addition to the salmon dinner and, well, that was the end of that.”
Hitch laughed, and then glanced down at the lemon again, smile falling abruptly off his face. “I can’t believe I’m considering this. If LB finds out-”
“But she won’t,” Ruby interrupted, “because we’re both excellent at this game. And it’s not as if we’re breaking into a secret Spectrum vault, we’re just-” She pointedly tossed the lemon from hand to hand a couple of times. “-throwing a lemon around.”
Hitch rolled his eyes, sighing in defeat. “Fine. You start, then.”
Ruby grinned, triumphant. “You’re the best butler, you know that?”
“House manager,” Hitch corrected half-heartedly as Ruby squeezed between two people and disappeared into the chaos and bustle of the party.
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“The Lemon is in play,” Ruby hissed at him a short while later as they brushed by each other. Hitch bit the inside of his cheek to stop himself from laughing out loud at how very serious she sounded, and instead focused his attention on surveying the party for any signs of an errant, cleverly-hidden lemon.
It took him nearly ten minutes and a momentary false alarm with somebody’s brightly-colored yellow handbag to track down the lemon, which was almost smugly resting on a drinks tray carried by a tuxedo-clad waiter.
“I’ll take this for you,” he suggested to the surprised member of the catering staff, pulling the tray smoothly from the other man’s grasp and moving off into the crowd, sliding the lemon off the tray and into his loose grasp as he did so.
As various members of the group reached over to Hitch for the last of the drinks, he dropped the lemon in the jacket pocket of the man closest to him- tall, with a severe looking moustache- and deposited the now-empty drinks tray on a nearby table. He then retreated back into the anonymity of the crowd, mission successfully completed.
A flash of scarlet in the corner of his vision made him turn, and he raised an eyebrow as Ruby darted over to another tray of drinks to snatch a glass of wine. She held it in one hand, and sauntered over to the group that he had just visited with the air of somebody not looking or caring where they’re going. What followed next was an almost artful collision as she managed to spill every last drop of the red wine on the man with the moustache without actually getting any on herself. Both of them ended up sprawled on the ground.
Ruby sprung up instantly, offering her hand to the man and babbling apologies. “My gosh, sir, I’m so sorry- I didn’t see where I was going! Are you all right? Do you need help?”
“That’s quite alright, miss,” the moustached man began, but Ruby was having none of it.
“I simply must take your coat,” she said, doing just that- tugging it straight off his shoulders before he could even protest. Scooping the lemon out of the pocket, she tucked it behind her back with one hand. She gave the jacket a perfunctory examination, then handed it straight back to him. “Actually, I don’t need it, thanks anyway! Once again, I’m very sorry, and my mother can recommend a very good drycleaner if you need it. Have a wonderful night!”
And she was gone, before anybody could even question what a teenage girl was doing wandering around with a glass of wine in the first place.
Hitch made a noise of slight incredulity at this, and turned, trying to figure out where Ruby was going next.
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An hour later, and the lemon was still firmly in play. Hitch was not ashamed to admit that he was having a lot more fun than he should really be having at this sort of party. Usually the high point of the evening was when one of the dignitaries had a few too many shots of whiskey and had to be escorted outside by security.
Tonight, however-
He spotted Ruby’s latest hiding spot as he passed by where Ruby’s parents were talking with somebody who looked as if he were a ruler of some small country somewhere, and paused for a moment as he took a moment to appreciate Ruby’s creativity at hiding it in her mother’s handbag, of all places.
This appreciation was quickly followed by slight trepidation as he wondered how he would get it out without being sucked into a two hour-long conversation.
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on 2017-05-22 21:27:00 UTC
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I don't know this canon, but that largely didn't affect my reading. You said this is an excerpt from a longer fic; I'm not sure if the beginning of this passage is also the beginning of the fic, but it's an excellent beginning either way. I immediately started to get a sense of both characters' personalities from their dialogue and movement/body language, supplemented by the slightly-Hitch's-point-of-view narration. You do a great job of expressing Hitch being pulled between staying professional in a formal setting and being bored enough to want to play a game. You also get across the fact that Hitch clearly respects Ruby a good deal, despite the age difference, and trusts her enough to start playing this game in public without expecting any really terrible consequences.
Despite the very excellent characterization right at the opening, I do think the setting needs a bit more description early on. Knowing that the party is so packed that Ruby has to squeeze between people to move away from Hitch colors the conversation about playing the lemon game, as it implies that it will be harder to move the lemon around without being seen—but we don't know it's that busy until the end of that scene. Knowing more of the party's layout would also be useful for mentally visualizing the lemon's different locations. In particular, the sentence, "It took him nearly ten minutes and a momentary false alarm with somebody’s brightly-colored yellow handbag to track down the lemon, which was almost smugly resting on a drinks tray carried by a tuxedo-clad waiter," feels rather empty, and like a bit of a cop-out, as it's too hard to see in my mind's eye what Hitch could have been doing in that time without knowing the layout of the party. However, I recognize that this may just be the result of this sequence being removed from a larger story, so I may simply be missing information here that is supplied in the final version.
A couple of formatting notes:
Firstly, on the internet, it's typically easier to read multiple paragraphs when there's a line between each one (double spacing), rather than simply indenting. I know this may have been copied and pasted from another format, but it does make the words from different sentences run together in some spots here on the Board.
Secondly, you typically want to use different lengths of line for hyphens and dashes. You use hyphens correctly already between the words in adjective phrases ("Hitch corrected half-heartedly"). For the dash that separates parts of sentences or represents an interruption, you need a longer line. "'My gosh, sir, I’m so sorry- I didn’t see where I was going!'" should look like "'My gosh, sir, I’m so sorry—I didn’t see where I was going!'" That long dash doesn't exist as a key on most keyboards, but there are two easy ways to do it. My preference is to use the html code "& mdash;" without the space which creates "—". You can also hold down the "alt" key while typing in "0151" in the square number pad on the right side of the keyboard, which produces "—" . Which is actually a lot better, because you can see it right on the page as you type, so that might be my new preference.
Also, some multiple-word adjective phrases don't need the hyphen in between the words—namely, the ones that have adverbs ending in "-ly." So "cleverly-hidden lemon" can just be "cleverly hidden lemon." -
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I have to start off with saying that I really enjoyed this story. I have no idea who these characters are, though I learned a few things about them during the story. Ruby is a mischievous teenage daughter of very, very wealthy and powerful parents. Hitch is the head butler, possibly head of staff? He seems to have more of a sense of humor and less patience for formal affairs than the stereotype of that position. I never imagined that I would find a story about hiding a lemon so entertaining. It also plays on the other meaning that lemon has in fanfic circles. (Was that intentional?)
On formatting: I prefer to read on screens with a blank line between paragraphs. It's easier on the eyes.
“It’s not too bad,” he said. “I can deal.” Internally, he was hoping desperately that she’d find some way to shake things up without actually causing any sort of damage.
This is something I have been working on in my own writing recently. You have three adverbs in this one sentence, and a lot of them overall. Too many adverbs slow things down and weaken your writing. They are hard to get rid of, but it when you do it does help.
“But she won’t,” Ruby interrupted, “because we’re both excellent at this game.
This is picky, but she is supposing that he is excellent at the game. She just had to explain how it's played, so he must not have played before.
It took him nearly ten minutes and a momentary false alarm with somebody’s brightly-colored yellow handbag to track down the lemon, which was almost smugly resting on a drinks tray carried by a tuxedo-clad waiter.
I particularly liked this line. I know I am hitting you overall for adverbs, but that lemon sitting smugly on the tray is funny.
I think she must have been cheating a bit to know so quickly that he'd put the lemon in the coat pocket, but it's kind of a non-visible hiding spot so it balances out. When this is all de-anoned, I wouldn't mind a link to finish reading this. -
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I'll remember the thing about formatting next time, whoops. -_- All your other feedback is excellent and valid, and I'll definitely try to put a bit of work into it based off this. I've had a bit of trouble writing this lately.
I'll definitely post a link if/when we deanon- or if i ever finish it.
(Also, the... er, 'other meaning' of lemon is completely unintentional. I don't want to think about that.) -
Intellectual Discourse by
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‘Oh, bloody hell.’
‘Oh, no, Finch, it wasn’t bloody at all,’ Bingle carefully explained, stopping in the corridor, gesturing. ‘It was snowy, more than anything else. And it wasn’t in hell, either, Finch. Eastern bit of the Sahara, in fact.’
Finch dragged his ocular in Bingle’s direction. ‘Not bloody that! I-ve had a-’ but he was cut off by the wooo wooo wooo of his damage alarm. ‘That.’
‘Oh, dear.’ Bingle quirked his head and leant in, frowning. ‘Are you quite okay, Finch?’
‘I-m seeing everything backwards.’ Finch grumbled. His ocular was twisting and spinning.
‘Everything backwards?’ Bingle asked.
‘Everything backwards!’
Bingle held up two fingers. ‘How many fingers do you see, Finch?’
‘I see a balled up fist.’
Bingle held up three fingers. ‘How about now?’
‘A balled up fist.’
Bingle held up his other hand, raising seven fingers. ‘Now, Finch?’
‘I just see two balled up fists, Bingle!’ Finch howled. ‘And the one on the right is losing wrinkles!’
‘Oh, dear,’ Bingle commented, taking his hands down. He watched and frowned as Finch fluttered awkwardly through the air, spurted hissing wind from his vents, tapped against a wall and rebounded like it had kicked him.
‘Oh bloody dear, Bingle. I need DoSAT!’ Finch was rapidly turning into a mess of woop woop woop, whirs, hums, clicks and clacks and the occasional clunk, as he bounced off another wall.
‘You know how to fix yourself, don’t you, Finch?’ Bingle asked, gently holding Finch with two hands to prevent him from bouncing down away through the corridors like a slow, complaining pinball.
‘I-m seeing things backwards, Bingle,’ Finch hissed. His ocular was flicking everywhere. ‘I-d probably install an extra panel over my central computer access rather than opening it!’
‘It would be more durable, Finch, you know.’
‘Oh, shut up, Bingle.’
Bingle released Finch, pointing at nothing, as an idea came to him. ‘I know, Finch!’ A cheery grin spread over his face. He began moving towards Finch’s central computer access. ‘I can fix you!’ Finch slapped away his hands. ‘I’m very well-versed in-’ Finch slapped away his hands. ‘I once took an entire course in robo-’ Finch slapped away his hands. ‘You know-’ Finch slapped away his hands, once more. Bingle straightened his back and folded his arms. ‘Finch, I somehow feel that you don’t trust me.’
‘I won-t bloody let you, Bingle. Not after last time.’
‘Last time’ resounded through Bingle’s mind like a shout in a cavern. Last time. Last time? Bingle hardly recognised the words. ‘What happened last time, Finch?’
‘You don-t bloody remember last time, Bingle,’ Finch said, dinging off a wall and slowly hovering to the other side of the corridor. ‘Because when you pressed the wrong series of buttons and jettisoned my ocular out its socket, it hit you on the bloody head so hard it erased your memory of the entire day.’
‘Oh, I think I would remember that, Finch.’
‘I. Need. Bloody. DoSAT.’ Finch hissed.
Bingle sighed and shook his head. ‘Oh, of course, Finch.’ And within just a second, his disappointment had already rushed away, disappearing to that same dark, crowded place where most of his other thoughts and memories went. ‘We’ll get there, don’t worry!’ And Bingle took hold of Finch and pushed him ahead. He started whistling. Phwoo-wo-woo, he went.
The general noise of a malfunctioning Finch and his not-technically-malfunctioning friend, Bingle, as they stepped through the corridors went like this: woop woop woop, whirrr, phwoo-wo-wooo, bugger buggering bloody, click clack, woop woop woop, whirrr, phwoo-wo-woo, bugger buggering bloody, click clack and so on. Bingle saw, grinned at, and waved at a great variety of people Finch did not recognise. One or two of the people didn’t recognise Bingle, either, and they creased their brows and tilted their heads, before shrugging and continuing on their ways.
‘Why does this always happen to me, Bingle?’ Finch moaned.
‘Well, Finch,’ Bingle said, pushing Finch around a very large pothole in the floor. ‘It would be terribly odd for, say, agent Alleb, the knight, to have a software malfunction.’
‘But why?’ Finch asked. ‘Why is that odd? Who bloody decided that?’
Bingle shrugged. ‘Charles Darwin, perhaps. He was quite smart, you know.’
‘Why can-t knights go around having software malfunctions, and why can-t I go around wearing bloody plate armour and bowing down to posh ladies with cones on their heads?’
‘Because that’s not how it is, Finch.’
‘Why?’
‘Oh, don’t ask why, Finch,’ Bingle said, piloting Finch around a prone agent, lying on the floor. ‘There is no why, Finch. There is is, but there is no why.’
‘It-s like you hate intellectual consideration and discourse, Bingle,’ Finch muttered.
‘I feel its a waste of energy, Finch,’ Bingle said, turning them around a corner. ‘Questions without answers, Finch, I’ve found are far less useful, in the long term, than, say, having lunch. Reading a book. Not malfunctioning.’
‘There has to be an answer!’ Finch exclaimed. His ocular almost looked rabid, in its wild spins and sudden flicks.
‘Ironic Overpower,’ Bingle said.
‘That just extends the question.’
Bingle shook his head. ‘We are going to stop your malfunctions, Finch. Then we shall have lunch, and I think I’ll read a book.’
‘You-re an immortal wizard-man with secrets from behind the universe,’ Finch said. Something unfriendly inside him made a loud clicking noise. ‘I would have figured, Bingle, you-d know more. Or care more.’
Bingle smiled cheerily. ‘I know plenty, Finch. I do think that’s why I don’t care.’ A pair of heavy-looking blast doors had appeared in front of them. ‘We’re here, Finch.’
‘Thank God. You-re starting to get your hair back, Bingle.’
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So, just getting this out of the way: Even though I've seen the names of these characters in the #Rudi's RP room, I didn't bother to memorize their author, so I may be the only person here who has no idea who you are.
This also means I don't really know Finch and Bingle going in to this, either by description, origin canons, or established personalities. However, I found that doesn't really hurt this piece at all. You write both agents to have immediately identifiable voices, even without Finch's dialogue being always bolded. I also gleaned the two most critical details needed to understand this story (Finch is a robot and floats) very early on. (We get Bingle's identity as a bald wizard later on, too, but since that doesn't directly impact the story, its lateness is immaterial.) The personalities and speaking styles of the two agents are as close to being perfect foils to each other as one could ever expect, and it makes for very enjoyable dialogue.
In fact, this story is driven almost entirely by dialogue, with narration being used in just the right amounts to get across necessary information (Finch's "species", the travel). It makes for an incredibly fast-paced read, which matches the whimsical, light-hearted tone in a great way. I quite enjoyed the overall tone, for the most part; the one part that I disliked is the use of sound effects in text, as I'm the type to mentally read them all out, and it does get a bit silly in places. That said, it again matches the tone, so I'm willing to write that off as not jiving with my personal preferences, rather than something that needs fixing. (And I certainly couldn't argue that textual sound effects have no place in the PPC. [BEEEEEEP!])
My one complaint—again, a subjective one—is that more isn't done with the "seeing everything backwards" gag. That's quite an original and clever idea, but we only see it applied to Bingle's hands and hair. I realize the shortness of this piece restricts you a bit, but it still would have been fun to see more of the malfunction explored. Perhaps we'll see another follow-up story in DoSAT?
And again, I really liked the interplay between your agents, and I do hope you get permission some day so we can enjoy them in missions. -
Very well, trying again by
on 2017-05-19 19:14:00 UTC
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I looked up Bingle and Finch, but still didn't find their descriptions, except that one of their voice sounds like a cheese grater. The mention of the vending machine is familiar.
I can work out that Finch is a type of machine, and that he hovers. Somehow I mixed up which one was Bingle and which one is Finch. I know you point it out more than enough, so maybe a picture would help.
"‘Oh, dear,’ Bingle commented, taking his hands down. He watched and frowned as Finch fluttered awkwardly through the air, spurted hissing wind from his vents, tapped against a wall and rebounded like it had kicked him. " I feel like this sentence is too long. I do like the imagery, though.
I especially like the succinctness of slow, complaining pinball.
"‘It would be more durable, Finch, you know.’
‘Oh, shut up, Bingle.’ "
I like the play where Bingle seems very irreverent and Finch is fed up with it.
The explanation of how Bingle lost his memory last time and then says, "I think I would remember that," is still pretty funny. -
Taking a pass at it by
on 2017-05-19 15:28:00 UTC
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I'm going to do this one a little differently from the other one I've taken a look at. Mostly because...I have a hard time reading this one.
There are several reasons why:
1) The "Mister X and Mister Y" thing that you've got going on means that, in this short piece, we hear the characters' names about 300 times. When that happens, the names lose all meaning and stop registering as words.
2) You have a tendency to repeat bits three or four times in close proximity. This gets monotonous and bogs down the whole thing.
3) Speaking of monotony, Finch has as many lines featuring the word 'Bloody' as he does without it. I understand wanting your characters to have distinct voices, but this goes a bit far.
All of that together makes this one hard for me to get through. You have taken all of these things, which are not bad in moderation, and used them to an extreme.
So, that's what I've got. I'm sorry I can't get into more specifics about the story. -
Re: Intellectual Discourse by
on 2017-05-18 09:07:00 UTC
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I don't know these characters, and they don't get a lot of description, but I am imagining Finch as looking like a Mr. Handy from Fallout 4, particularly the very fussy voice personality of the butler types. I don't know why really, that's just what I pictured.
Have you ever read Hank the Cowdog books? Bingle reminds me a lot of Drover. He's friendly and generally calm in the face of Hank's histrionics. He seems like he's only half there in the conversations. Always going on a sort of tangent that almost makes sense, but not quite. He gets Hank into some of the strangest conversations, and I imagine that Bingle gets Finch into some weird places conversationally and he seems really chill about Finch's situation, as well.
It makes for an interesting pair. The description of the noise they make in the halls is quite entertaining. It's hard to remember to include enough auditory description in stories.
I'm afraid that I don't have a lot of good input for you with this story. I enjoyed reading it. I couldn't find any grammar or general usage comments to make for this story. It reads smoothly, although the bold and dash instead of apostrophe took some getting used to. -
Betaing the betaman* by
on 2017-05-19 15:01:00 UTC
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It's interesting, this, in that you mention that there really doesn't seem to be much 'good' input or criticisms or whatnot within the story. I know a lot of people seem to have that sort of issue - they can't really find anything real big to talk about and saying 'Oh, I liked that bit' feels wrong, to them. I mean, I've had that problem a few times, anyhow.
But in spite of that, there's still insights you've put in that are really useful, you know? You mentioning your interpretation of Bingle's character really is quite useful, because it lets me know that I've been playing him right, making people think about him what they ought to think about him. And if that interpretation was incorrect or off - well, then I'd know I'd buggered, oy?
The fact, too, that you not only mentioned you appreciated the noise descriptions but also why you appreciated them (entertaining, don't get it much, et al) is, too, very helpful, both for the charming swelling noise that is my ego growing slightly larger, and for letting me very specifically know what I did right and how it went right.
So, yeah, in general - thoughts and insights on things are real bloody useful, even if they're not pointing out big criticisms, or any such things. And saying you like things and why you like them is jolly good, too.
(And, you know, the Mr. Handy thing is pretty close. Just imagine all those apparatuses coming out of the descendant of a vending machine from a dark future where nobody really likes vending machines much, except as places to deposit graffiti and take out youthful fury on with a cricket bat.
I certainly need to get onto that description game, anyhow, even if it's only got to be a single added sentence, or such!)
*This is not a sexist term, as betaman is simply short for betamanager, a position all genders can, and, frankly, should strive for. -
Re: Intellectual Discourse by
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I think I've seen Bingle and Finch before, but I forgot what they looked like. I seem to remember that Bingle is dead.
It's an interesting bit of back and forth banter. No plot, just a slice of life.
I really like the part where he says he should remember getting amnesia. -
Betamanning the beta-ers by
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So I certainly appreciate all this stuff, don't get me wrong! But I feel it needs more meat to it, y'know? What makes the banter interesting, as you see it? What is it about the fact that it's slice of life that you find interesting, and why is that a good/bad/whatever thing? Why, specifically, was it you liked the amnesia bit? Does it fit with his character or you can relate to it or do you find it funny or someone did someone pay you to say that, et al?
That sort of stuff! A lot of statements and opinions, but it'd be real cool to see sort've where they come from or why you think of them like that, y'know? Not that betaing should be a big bad essay or anything - just, whatever comes to you, y'know? -
An original piece I wrote years ago, but never finished by
on 2017-05-16 20:38:00 UTC
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Chapter 1
Fire. The world was ablaze and one woman was trapped in the middle of it. Something had pinned her legs and left her at the mercy of the flames. She tried to call for help, but the blaze sucked the air from her lungs and replaced it with smoke. I'm going to die, was the last thing she thought before her skin caught fire and she began to burn.
Kim "KC" Hayes sat up in her bed, batting at the flames that had been so vivid in her mind. It took a moment for her senses to tell her that the flames were just a memory; that they hadn't come back to finish what they had started. The crash had been months ago, and the burns she had sustained were healing well. Why should she continue to dream of the fire so often?
She looked around her room as she tried to catch her breath. The blanket was on the floor and her sheets were soaked with sweat. That wasn't unusual on the nights when flames haunted her dreams. Everything else seemed to be in order. The clock on her dresser told her that it was 5:12 AM; just over an hour before she had to be up for work.
KC didn't feel like going back to sleep. The prospect of further nightmares was not one that she particularly wanted to face, at the moment. She decided to get an early start, instead. Swinging her feet over the edge of the bed, she started toward the bathroom to shower.
After she started the water for her shower, she peeled off her sweaty tank top and shorts. She took a moment to examine herself in the mirror. Her burn scars stood out first, pink and shiny against the backdrop of her white skin. They covered a portion of her chest, shoulder and neck where her blouse had caught fire. It would have been worse, but some bystanders has pulled her from her car and put out the flames.
She ran her fingers through her auburn hair. It had been shoulder length before the accident. The flames from her shirt had singed a fair portion of hair on the right side. She had cut it short to restore some semblance of symmetry to her head, as well as to erase a reminder of the crash.
The mirror began to fog over, obscuring her image. She stepped into the shower and let the hot water wash the sticky residue of sweat from her body. She adjusted to temperature of the water to make it cooler, because her burns were still sensitive to heat. She carefully cleaned the pink skin of the scars.
When she was finished in the shower, she dried herself off and applied ointment to her wounds. She then covered them, as best she could, with gauze, which she held in place with medical tape. The gauze would keep her clothes from rubbing against the burns and irritating them. That done, she returned to her bedroom to get dressed.
Ten minutes later, KC was in the kitchen of her one bedroom apartment. She had a small pot of coffee brewing and a couple of frozen waffles in the toaster. While she waited for her breakfast, she turned on the television that she kept on her counter
“...President will be giving a speech for their graduation ceremony,” said the Anchor from behind her desk. “Now for some local news.”
The waffles popped up and KC went to get them from the toaster, barely listening to the report. She only heard brief snatches from the television while getting her food and coffee.
“..uelson has been missing since...”
She returned to the table and, when she looked up, saw that they had moved on to sports. She wasn’t interested in that, so she turned the television off and ate her breakfast.
~*~
Waiting for the train was KC’s least favorite part of getting to work now. She was used to driving her car into the city, but she no longer had one. It was her fault, though, and she considered the train to be her penance. She stood on the platform in the dawn light, with a dozen other commuters, in her skirt, blouse and tennis shoes. Her work appropriate shoes were in her bag. It was just like any other morning.
KC leaned forward to look up the track for her train. It was just coming around the bend and would reach the station in about a minute. When she turned back, to wait for the train, she felt like someone was watching her. She couldn’t shake the feeling. Looking across the tracks to the other platform she could only see two people. The one closest to her was reading a newspaper, the other was too far down the platform for KC to tell where he were looking. There was no reason him to be watching her, in particular, and there were at least a half dozen people closer to the man. Still...
She didn’t have much time to wonder as her train pulled up, blocking her view of the other side of the tracks. When she had boarded the train and found a seat, she tried to locate the man on the other platform, again. She couldn’t see him until the train started moving. She caught a glimpse of him as her car passed. It almost seemed like his head turned to follow her car, but it was hard to tell with the speed of the train. She hadn’t even been able to make out any detail of his face.
KC endeavored to put it out of her mind. She was almost thirty-five, which was far too old to be jumping at shadows. It was probably just the nightmares working on her nerves, anyway.
Chapter 2
As she sat at her desk, KC’s mind wandered. It was getting to be the middle of the afternoon and she had finished the bulk of her work. She was thinking of calling it an early day going home. The loss of over an hour of sleep was beginning to wear on her. She zoned out for another couple of minutes before finally deciding to pack it in.
She walked to her boss’s office down the hall and stuck her head in. “Hey, Bill,” she said to the balding man behind the desk. “Mind if I take off a little early today?”
She didn’t hear his reply. Something caught her attention out of the corner of her eye.
“Are you listening to me?” asked Bill, snapping her out of her trance.
“I’m sorry, what?” There had been someone outside the window. She was sure of it.
“I said you can go home, and it looks like you really need to. Are you feeling all right?”
“Fine,” she said, trying to play it off. “I’m fine. Just a little tired. Thought I saw someone out the window. But we’re on the twelfth floor, so that’s unlikely, right? Just need to get some sleep.”
Bill stood up and came around his desk. He looked concerned. “Listen, Kim,” he said, “I’m worried about you. Don’t get me wrong, we were in the weeds while you were out after the accident, but if you need some more time off, just tell me.”
“Thanks, Bill. But honestly, I’m fine.” Her assurance didn’t seem to ease his concern.
“Well,” he finally said, “go home and get some rest, at least.” There wasn’t much more he could say.
KC went back to her office to collect her things. She looked out her own window and thought about what she had seen. There had been someone outside that window. She knew it. Even out of the corner of her eye, they’d been oddly clear and focused. She sighed. It occurred to her that she might be getting worked up over a window washer. She needed some sleep before she became completely paranoid.
She grabbed her bag, locked her office, and headed for the elevators. A short ride later and she was waving to the security guard at the front desk as she strode out of the lobby and out into the bright, afternoon sun. She turned toward the train but was delayed at the corner when the traffic signal turned.
While she waited for the light to change, she decided to put her mind at ease. Bill’s office was on this side of the building. KC looked up, expecting to see a platform or, at the very least, the ropes that were always there right before and after the platform was in place. She saw neither. There was nothing on the building to suggest that window washers were working. It had happened less than fifteen minutes ago, there should be something.
KC realized that the light had changed when she was jostled by the crowd moving into the cross walk. She continued her walk to the train, periodically looking over her shoulder at her building. She had to have missed something. People didn’t just appear at twelfth floor windows.
She hurried on to the train station. She was obviously imagining things and the only way to fix that was to get some sleep. She considered stopping by a pharmacy for some sleeping pills, to ensure a full night’s rest.
When she made it to the train platform the electronic board said her train was due in a few minutes. She sat down on a bench to wait and looked around at the people on the other platfrom. Her eyes were drawn to movement as a man walked onto the platform from the stairs. He seemed familiar to KC, though she couldn’t see his face. He had his back to her, and all she could see, in any detail, were his jeans and tee-shirt.
She continued to watch as the man crossed the platform, walking further away from her. It was odd, people stopped talking as he approached and moved out of his way, but no one ever seemed to look at him. He just went where he wanted and the crowd shifted uncomfortably around him. When he reached the very end of the platform he turned and looked toward KC, and the feeling of being watched washed over her again.
It was the same man from that morning. It had to be. He shouldn’t have been far enough away for her to not be able to make out any detail of his face but, strain all she liked, KC made no progress in trying to find any identifiable detail. However, she had the unsettling feeling that he was smiling at her.
KC surged to her feet just as a train flashed between them on his side of the tracks. When it had pulled well past the place he had been standing the man was nowhere to be seen.
He’s either on that train or on his way over here, she thought to herself. Her own train was pulling into the station. When the doors opened, she hurried inside and kept watch on the stairway up to the platform. She wasn’t going to let him sneak up on her.
She breathed a sigh of relief when the doors closed and she hadn’t seen any sign that the creepy man was trying to get to this train. She realized that she was slouched low in her seat and sat up. She needed a plan.
I can’t go to the police, can I? she thought. Well, I could, if I'm fine with being locked in a loony bin for claiming to see people outside of twelfth floor windows. Do I have to tell them that? Maybe not. I should go to the police.
As she was making her decision, the train was pulling into the next stop. She got off the train and headed for the nearest police station. -
Once more, with feeling. by
on 2017-05-23 00:24:00 UTC
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The first paragraph doesn't grab me. I am interested when it starts showing that she has PTSD.
As she is examining herself in the mirror, I don't feel anything. There was a flash of sympathy when she decided not to fall back to sleep.
I'm reacting more to her having cut her hair than to her cleaning her sensitive burns. A feeling of wanting to restore a feeling of normalcy.
I feel like I should have a reaction to her eating frozen waffles. I'm a little irritated that she was watching the news, but it was unimportant.
I'm interested when she's waiting for the train, and thinking about why she takes it. The word "penance" sticks out for me, it makes me feel bad.
I'm curious about the man, but agreeing with her that it's nothing. Just the wind, nothing to worry about. I'm imagining the Randolf street L station downtown, but I know that's wrong.
I'm getting a little bit of head-hopping when she's talking to her boss. She doesn't know that there wasn't much more he could say.
Why did she feel the need to say that they're on the twelve floor? We don't know, but her boss should.
I'm feeling disoriented when she's jostled by the crowd at the light. Intrigued at how there aren't window washers.
For a moment, I was in the dark and muggy Metra electric train station underground. I have a feeling that's also the wrong place, like she's outside and not at a trains-are-parked end of the line. -
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This is a great little set-up, and I hope you can continue this and get it published someday.
Chapter 1
The bulk of this chapter is providing details about KC's car accident, and all the thought you've put into it is amazing. I love how you use the cliche of a nightmare to introduce KC's car accident and mental trauma, but then use the hard reality of her scars, and the time and effort of work she has to put into taking care of them, to bring home just how real and awful the accident was. You've really done an amazing job of thinking of all the little day-to-day details that bring her affliction to life.
I also love, right at the end of the first scene, the hint of a news report that will almost certainly factor into KC's life down the line, which she simply didn't catch. It leaves me intrigued about how much she'll regret not hearing that info, after some plot has happened to her.
Chapter 2
Picking up on the slightly off detail from the end of chapter one, and cranking it up into the realm of the supernatural makes for a great lead-in to future conflict and mystery. I like the contrast between the fairly typical sympathy expressed by Bill and the disturbing, alien behavior of the faceless man.
The one weak point here, I think is this particular sentence: "Her assurance didn’t seem to ease his concern." This is a very tell-don't-show sentence, and stands out all the more plainly for detailed and explicit you make the actions in the rest of the story. The following sentence seems to indicate that Bill paused before answering, so I think explaining a bit of his facial reaction to KC's words, or other aspects of his demeanor, would be a much more descriptive way to show this. Also, Bill's reaction should be attached to his dialogue, not to a part of KC's.
basic errors:
Chapter 1
"It would have been worse, but some bystanders has pulled her from her car and put out the flames."
"Has" should be "had" to match the verb tense of "pulled." The sentence also still works if you remove "has" entirely.
"She adjusted to temperature of the water to make it cooler, because her burns were still sensitive to heat."
"To temperature" should be "the temperature."
"Ten minutes later, KC was in the kitchen of her one bedroom apartment."
"One bedroom" should be "one-bedroom" since that's an adjectival phrase describing the apartment.
"While she waited for her breakfast, she turned on the television that she kept on her counter"
The period at the end of this sentence is missing.
Also, I may have noticed a contradiction between that sentence and the following paragraph:
"She returned to the table and, when she looked up, saw that they had moved on to sports. She wasn’t interested in that, so she turned the television off and ate her breakfast."
That first sentence says the television is on the kitchen counter. The second pair of sentences imply that she moves away from the counter to sit at a table, then turns the television off. I'm not sure if you intended for the television to be on the table in the first place, or if you meant for the reader to understand that she got up and walked to the counter again to shut it off, then returned to the table to eat. This is further muddied by the use of the phrase "returned to the table" when the narration never stated that she had been to the table at that point.
"There was no reason him to be watching her, in particular, and there were at least a half dozen people closer to the man."
You missed the "for" in the phrase "no reason for him to be."
"When she had boarded the train and found a seat, she tried to locate the man on the other platform, again."
You don't need the comma before "again." It's an adverb modifying the verb "tried," so it's a proper part of that clause and doesn't need to separated from it by punctuation.
Chapter 2
"'Hey, Bill,' she said to the balding man behind the desk. 'Mind if I take off a little early today?'"
Since all this dialogue is a single sentence, keep the entire thing together as a sentence. Replace the period after "desk" with a comma, and change the beginning of "mind" to lowercase. ("'Hey, Bill,' she said to the balding man behind the desk, 'mind if I take off a little early today?'"
"'Thought I saw someone out the window.'"
I would usually use "outside" instead of "out" here, but I don't know if this is a speaking quirk/regional dialect sort of thing.
"KC realized that the light had changed when she was jostled by the crowd moving into the cross walk."
According to wiktionary, "crosswalk" is always spelled as one word, though this could be another regional thing.
"She sat down on a bench to wait and looked around at the people on the other platfrom."
"platform"
"He had his back to her, and all she could see, in any detail, were his jeans and tee-shirt."
This one is me being anal-retentive, so feel free to ignore this. Technically, "tee-shirt" is the French word for the English word "t-shirt." -
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on 2017-05-30 21:52:00 UTC
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Thank you for the time you put into this. I appreciate your comments.
Very important to have a strong foundation to build from. I am glad you enjoyed this and I, also, hope to continue this at some point (and maybe get it published, too).
I'm glad that the nightmare and the sensory detail that I've included work so well. There is still work to be done in this section, as J.E. pointed out, but I am happy to be starting from a good point.
Has anyone else mentioned the supernatural yet? I don't think anyone did. ...I might have? This story is supernatural in nature, so I am glad you picked up on that.
I see what you mean with that particular exchange between KC and Bill. I will re-work that section.
All SPaG comments are duly noted.
I hadn't realized that I moved the TV. Good catch. -
A good start. by
on 2017-05-21 19:33:00 UTC
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The first sentence is often the most difficult, at least to me. How to get the readers' attention, and then keep it, without sparking wrong expectations? Here, I was immediately dragged in, and even when I realized that the first paragraph was a nightmare, it kept me going through Kim's morning routine.
she started toward the bathroom to shower
Right after an early start and before she started the water for her shower, this is a bit too much starting for my taste. Maybe you can find some other way to phrase this sequence.
Also, I was tempted to say that peeling the nightwear off only after starting the water for the shower is the wrong order and a waste of good water. Only when The mirror began to fog over, I realized that this may be a necessary routine to get lots of cold water out of the tubes when you live high up in a multistory apartment building and the hot water comes from a boiler in the basement. And Kim doesn't enjoy the luxury of a thermostat that would keep the water at a preset temperature as soon as enough of the hot water component is available. After that, I didn't even need the mention of a one bedroom apartment to know how Kim lives. This is a good example of showing rather than telling.
It's amazing how much we learn about Kim just from her getting up. Alas, there are two mistakes in this part of the story:
It would have been worse, but some bystanders has pulled her from her car and put out the flames. Should be "had" (plural).
She adjusted to temperature of the water to make it cooler, because her burns were still sensitive to heat. Should be "the".
Unlike J.E., I did not feel like Kim should still be early at the train station. I assumed that her alarm clock is set to give her the bare minimum of time she needs every morning, so getting an early start just allowed her to take more time on everything she otherwise would do in a haste, and still get the same train as usual. I don't know how important it is to take the usual train. Otherwise, the mysterious stranger wouldn't have found her, at least not at this day?
I imagined that Kim cannot afford to buy another car (or to rent a better apartment), but from your comment to Daniel this isn't actually true. Do we learn something about her job and how well she is payed?
The one closest to her was reading a newspaper, the other was too far down the platform for KC to tell where he were looking. Shouldn't this be "was" (singular)?
There was no reason him to be watching her ... Apparently a word ("for"?) is missing there.
She didn’t have much time to wonder as her train pulled up, blocking her view of the other side of the tracks. You may want to insert a comma between "wonder" and "as", but punctuation is one of my weaker points.
I'm not much into creepily being stalked by a mysterious stranger, and much of this looked just too familiar, so I started to feel like I mostly continued proofreading out of a sense of duty.
As she sat at her desk, KC’s mind wandered. This looks a bit clumsy to me. Maybe you should try "While" instead of "As", or maybe I'm just too afraid of as-eritis.
She was thinking of calling it an early day going home. I'm not sure whether something is missing near the end of this sentence.
Oh, and a warning: if you really change the time Kim was early, like you implied in the answer to J.E., don't forget that The loss of over an hour of sleep was beginning to wear on her. [Yep, folks, that's why another (and a third, and a fourth) read-through may be required.]
... she strode out of the lobby and out into the bright, afternoon sun. I'm not sure whether this comma belongs there, although I can't exactly explain why. It's probably that "afternoon" modifies "sun", but unlike "bright" is not an adjective, so you don't have a list of adjectives that should be separated by commas.
I am sure that the police will not see any danger, and that KC will have to go through this alone. How the stranger managed to appear outside of a twelfth floor window and how he may be connected to the accident are still intriguing questions and may keep me interested for a while, but generally I feel like this story is not made for me.
~Lurky -
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Thank you for taking the time to do such a thorough reading, especially when this type of story is not to your tastes. It is very much appreciated.
I think I'm pretty good at openings, so I am glad this one worked for you. It helps me to think of it like a movie. You need something sensory (a sound, a smell, a visual) to hook the audience right from the start.
I get your point about too much starting. The word starts to lose all meaning, doesn't it?
Sometimes it takes a while for water to get up to where you want it in these kinds of buildings. KC got lucky she didn't have to fight a neighbor for the hot water (yes, that is a thing that happens). I hadn't even considered that it was a showing-not-telling situation, but I get it now and can use that kind of information in the future.
All SPaG comments duly noted.
You are correct that she would still aim for her usual train. It's out of habit, really.
The car thing depends on how good her auto insurance is, I think. I imagine she got at least a little money from that, though the accident was her own fault. She could probably afford a used car if she wanted one.
I apologize for not warning for this sort of thing. It just didn't occur to me. I would not have faulted you if you had stopped reading.
That is a very good note on the potential time change. Good catch.
As for the police, there is some hesitancy, to be sure. However, there are some strange things going on in the city recently, and one detective is paying attention.
Thank you for sticking with me, here. Your notes were insightful. -
Re: An original piece I wrote years ago, but never finished by
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I'm having trouble focusing on how the story is made. I keep getting lost in it. Very good.
Kim seems very bothered by having been in a fire.
I find it interesting that she would feel the need to be punished by not driving. That's something that she has control over, unlike the scars and her hair that she seems not to want to think about.
Sorry. I like this story, but I'm having trouble being constructive about it.
I keep wondering about what city she is in, but I have a feeling that it's supposed to be the every-city from the Matrix instead of a specific one. -
Comments and critiques by
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First off, thank you for taking the time to comment on my story. I greatly appreciate it.
Now, on to your notes:
-I'm glad you like it.
-The "not driving" thing is not a punishment, but a penance. She might be able to get a new car, but she feels she has done something that she needs to atone for, so she chooses to inflict a little discomfort on herself by means of public transit.
-This story takes place in Chicago. There are things that happened in the Prologue that pretty much spell it out, but nothing particularly identifying in the first two chapters.
Beta Critique:
I notice that when you are trying to beta the stories in this thread that you have a tendency to simply state facts about the story. For instance: "Kim seems very bothered by having been in a fire." That is a fact that is fairly well covered in the text and, by itself, is not really a useful comment. It doesn't tell me if you were confused about something or if it made you feel something. It just kind of...is.
So, what I suggest is that you try to follow the facts with questions, or tell the author how that fact made you feel (and if possible why it made you feel that way). Going back to the penance note, where you almost had this already, you could try something like this:
"I find it interesting that Kim would choose to punish herself when her injuries should be punishment enough. Could you make it more clear why she is doing that?"
Or
"It makes me sad that Kim feels the need to punish herself more than she already has been. You would think that she already had enough reminders, with her scars and hair."
So, here's some questions to help you along. "Kim seems very bothered by having been in a fire." What do you still want to know about that? What can I expand upon or make more clear? What does that fact make you feel? -
Comments on Chapter 1 (only). by
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In no particular order:
-From the way Chapter 1 is written, it seems like KC should be doing everything an hour earlier than normal. She specifically decides to get an early start, and nothing you describe seems like anything she wouldn't do normally. But this seems to drop out later; she says it was 'just like any other morning', even though she is now out at dawn (per the description) instead of an hour after. It's a little thing, I know, but it felt like it was going somewhere... until it didn't.
-It feels like the description of her injuries is inconsistent. It's been months since the crash, but the burns still need gause over them? And yet she hasn't permanently turned the shower down to cooler (possibly this indicates she just has an awful shower). She also doesn't have burns on her face, despite her hair scorching back to something less than shoulder-length.
-I assume the local-news line KC half-hears is relevant in the unwritten portion. It's a fairly classic mode of foreshadowing.
--In fact, 'classic' is a word I'd use to describe the whole piece. A classic nightmare/flashback sequence drifts into a classic sitting-bolt-upright, and then a classic morning montage. You've then got the half-heard news media, the commute during which she sees someone out of place... it all feels like you were deliberately aiming at the feel of a particular genre of movie, and if so, you hit it spot-on.
-Look out for your compound words. I've spotted "work appropriate" (should be 'work-appropriate'), and I'm not flagging up many hyphens on a quick skim of the rest, so I suspect you've missed a few.
-I feel like you sometimes drift into 'too much trivia'. Take a look at this:
KC leaned forward to look up the track for her train. It was just coming around the bend and would reach the station in about a minute. When she turned back, to wait for the train, she felt like someone was watching her. She couldn’t shake the feeling
There's a lot of information in there, but most of it we don't need. What we need to know is that a) the train is coming, and b) KC feels like she's being watched. Something like this: "KC glanced up the track - her train was just coming round the bend - and then turned her attention back to the growing feeling that someone was watching her."
--Actually, your 'she felt like' etc feels... off. It doesn't seem to come from anywhere - it's as if KC just stepped into the next picture in an album. "And this is where I felt like someone was watching me." You've got a few others further up; notably, I don't think she actually walks anywhere in the entire chapter, other than a 'started toward'. (No, I take it back - she 'returns' once.) Still, it feels like... I don't know. Just strange.
--That said, since you're working in third-person limited, this could be a KC trait. It would imply that she's focussing very hard on the Now, to the exclusion of thinking about transitions. She doesn't give off a feeling of changing, because she doesn't want to think about changes - which ties very nicely back to the fire. Checking your second paragraph again, she does seem to be working through frustration at the fact that Then keeps intruding into Now.
-In general, KC comes over as damaged to the point of self-absorption. She's doing her best to pretend the fire never happened - she covers the wounds to keep from feeling them, she cut her hair, she hasn't bought a new car - but along the way she's descended into herself to the point that she doesn't exhibit any emotions at the news, doesn't register the differences in it being an hour earlier, etc etc. She's smothered her feelings about the fire to the point that she's ended up smothering everything else, too.
If that's the sort of thing you're going for, you could definitely heighten it. A simple and sneaky way to do this would be to strip out every emotion, right up until (late in Chapter 2) she sees the stranger again. Cast everything else either as logic, or in the passive voice ("It was as if someone was watching her"). Obviously if you're not aiming at this, then ignore this advice. :) -
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In some semblance of order:
-All apartment showers are terrible. It is known.
-I was thinking minor burns on the face, which might be mostly healed by now. The major burns were where her clothing caught fire and her skin was in almost direct contact with the burning material. I should do some more research and see if I can improve this description.
--Also, hair doesn't need to be in direct contact with the flames in order to scorch. Being too close to fire can lose a person their eyebrows without them suffering lasting damage to their skin. That's kind of what I was going for.
-You are right about the hour earlier thing. I think I'll just change it to 10-15 minutes early and have her take a longer shower.
-I'll take classic. Classic is good. This is me trying my hand at the horror/mystery genre. Something like you might find in Supernatural or some Doctor Who.
-You would understand the line from the news if you had been given the Prologue. It involves a man named Samuelson. This does also come into play later.
-Hyphens are hard. I'll have to watch that when I go back to edit.
-"Too much trivia" is a personal failing. I do tend to go on. This is why I need betas; to tell me when I am getting long in the tooth.
-KC does have a tendency to forget that "Then" happens. But she isn't damaged to the point of self-absorption. She was self-absorbed from the start. That's what got her into the accident in the first place. She was driving drunk.
You've given me a lot of really good notes, and a lot of things to think about. I hope you'll have time to go over Chapter 2, as well? If not, no big deal. I appreciate the level of thought and effort that went into what you've already given me. -
New Guy Face (BtVS Xover) by
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"I know that face!"
Joyce's reverie was interrupted by her daughter's voice. She turned her head, unable to keep the smile off it. "Hello, Mom. How was your day, Mom? I'm just off to clean my room, Mom-"
"Don't think you can get out of it that easily," Buffy said with a wink and a knowing tone to her voice. "I know that face. That right there is a grade-A, accept-no-substitutes, 100% new guy face. So c'mon, spill!"
"New guy face, huh?" Joyce tried to humour her daughter for a moment, and then gave up, peals of laughter echoing through the room.
"Mom, what's so funny-"
"Nothing, sweetie, nothing. You're right, though, there's someone new in my life."
Buffy squeaked with glee and hugged her mother. "Yay! So, who is he? Tell me all about him."
"Well, they're about my height, dark hair, strong eyes - they really are lovely eyes - my age or thereabouts. Divorced because the ex's idea of a dream home was a shotgun shack in a desert in Australia, oh, and their voice, that accent-"
Buffy pounced. "Accent? Mom, did you get with the hot pool boy?"
Joyce kept giggling; Buffy didn't mind. She couldn't. The last time her Mom had been this happy, well... she couldn't really remember. "Honey, if we wanted a pool boy, we'd have to get a pool first."
"Hey, I can dream. So, keep going, what's the accent?"
"British. Veeeeeery British."
Buffy went pale. "Giles? Mom, he's, like, made of tweed!"
"It's not Rupert, although he's a lovely man who I'm sure will make some lucky woman a lovely filing cabinet someday. Come on, they're in the kitchen right now."
Intrigued to the point of barely suppressed oooohs, Buffy walked into the kitchen after her Mom, in which sat-
"Oh, hello. You must be Buffy! Joyce has told me so much about you..."
Buffy looked at the mid-sized, dark-haired British woman. They were really nice eyes, now that she looked, but there was something else there -
"Your old mom's got a few surprises in her yet, you know."
"I... yeah. You, uh, you sure do, Mom! Uh... hey."
"Hello! Yes. Sorry. Um." Ah, thought Buffy, the Giles is strong with this one. Wait, why does this feel so, um, normal? "Sorry. It's just... she'd be about your age now."
Oh. That was it.
"Sorry, where are my manners!" The woman stood up, proffering a hand to shake. "Monica. Monica Wilkins."
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'"Their names are Wendell and Monica Wilkins, and it's been their lifelong ambition to move to Australia," said Hermione. "And... they don't have any children."'
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Well, that was confusing. by
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The main reason is probably that I know next to nothing about Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Since I couldn't recognize speech patterns or the general ways Buffy and her mother interact with each other, I had a hard time figuring out what happened in the first paragraphs. Joyce mimicking what her daughter should have said, I got relatively fast, but I kept wondering what Buffy was looking at when she said, "I know that face!" while her mother's new friend was out of sight. It actually took me three reads to realize that of course it is Joyce's face that gives it away. I may just be stupid.
I still wonder what Joyce was doing there, being lost in reverie in the entrance hall or living room while her friend-of-yet-undetermined-gender is sitting alone in the kitchen? But I don't know Joyce, so this may just be what she would do.
So, Hermione Granger's plan to keep her parents save backfired when she neglected to give them both the same kind of dream about living in Australia. I never thought of this possibility, and I only got the stealthy hint on second read. I would like to know why Monica moved to what's-the-place-where-Buffy-lives-again? Surfer's Paradise? Does it match what Monica initially expected when she moved to Australia? I hope we will hear more about that in coming chapters. If we do, the first foreshadowing being so stealthy that it could easily be overlooked is a good adaptation of Rowling's style.
"Hello! Yes. Sorry. Um."
This is a remarkable break from Monica's previous lines and I'm not yet sure how it is justified. Monica adapting to how Buffy speaks? Actually seeing Buffy after only having heard about her yet triggered a memory that confused Monica? If Hermione did not do something else wrong, Monica should not remember that she should have a daughter of Buffy's age. Did she remember before she met Buffy? (BTW, inserting Buffy's thoughts there didn't help to get that Monica is speaking.)
I actually have a vague idea of who Rupert Giles is (from looking through reviews on "Mark watches", to get an impression of what the show is about without watching it myself), but some references may have gone straight over my head. Anyway, there is definitely something going on with meeting Monica feeling so natural to Buffy. Will we find out that Buffy is actually Hermione-after-losing-her-memory? Since this was too easy to guess, finding out something totally different would be more interesting, but finding out what happened to Monica and Wendelll Wilkins would be interesting anyway.
This may be a good start for a BtVS x HP crossover, but currently there is not yet enough of it for me to tell.
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a review with spoilers by
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I'm not up-to-date on my Buffy canon, only up through season four. From my perspective in the timeline, I'd say you have Joyce's voice down absolutely perfectly, but Buffy's, I'm not so sure of. The last I remember of Joyce doing any dating, Buffy was rather resistant to it, so it feels a bit off for her to be supportive and encouraging about this. Then again, part of her reservations in that episode were sensing something wrong with Joyce's boyfriend, and again, my lack of newest info in the canon may make this criticism irrelevant. I do think the overall interaction, with Joyce teasing Buffy with information and playing on her assumptions, is spot-on between the two of them.
I did catch the neutral pronoun usage, so I guessed the reveal early on. (Although my very first initial guess was that Joyce had gotten a pet of some kind, until I reached the phrase, "about my height.") More importantly, though, I think your characterization of Buffy, not noticing the pronoun game and failing to imagine her mom as interested in women, is true to Buffy's direct and stubborn mind in canon. And again, after the reveal, the dialogue between Joyce and Buffy feels right for the way they tend to interact in the show. Buffy's reaction to her mom being bisexual is realistic, and Joyce acting proud and just slightly smug feels right, too.
I was initially pretty confused by the choice of Hermione's mom. (Do we seriously not have a name for the parents of one of the Golden Trio? I'll just call her Granger here.) Then I thought I understood it better, but just now realized I'm still at least a bit confused. The fact that Granger introduces herself as "Monica" seems to indicate that this is taking place during Deathly Hallows, when Granger's mind has been charmed by her daughter. If that's the case, though, Granger shouldn't have any memory of her daughter, and also calls to question where her husband is. This made me briefly think that this is meant to be an AU where Granger lost her daughter young and left her husband, except Hermione was the source of that name—unless you're using that name as a stand-in because SERIOUSLY HOW DO HERMIONE'S PARENTS NOT HAVE NAMES. Except, then you would go Monica Granger, since we do know the surname, at least . . . Ultimately, the confusion caused by these details, as well as the suddenness and brevity of the closing paragraphs, weakens the ending for me. I suppose if this were an actual, published fanfic, there would be a continuation where the reader could glean more details, or at least an author's note explaining how Granger got here. As it is, it feels like a quickly thought-out twist to throw on the end for the sake of a surprise.
Also, Buffy's thoughts in the middle of Granger's dialogue should be moved to their own paragraph. -
Re: New Guy Face (BtVS Xover) by
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"I know that face!"
Joyce's reverie was interrupted by her daughter's voice. She turned her head, unable to keep the smile off it. "Hello, Mom. How was your day, Mom? I'm just off to clean my room, Mom-"
This did get me the first couple of times I read it. I thought it was Buffy sucking up. That maybe she was in trouble again. So the next line was jarring. I would suggest changing said to interrupted. I know said is the most invisible dialogue tag, but in this case it might help make things smoother for your readers.
"Don't think you can get out of it that easily," Buffy said with a wink and a knowing tone to her voice. "I know that face. That right there is a grade-A, accept-no-substitutes, 100% new guy face. So c'mon, spill!"
I don't believe it is absolutely wrong to use a number here, but I would spell it out as one hundred percent.
"Oh, hello. You must be Buffy! Joyce has told me so much about you..."
Buffy looked at the mid-sized, dark-haired British woman. They were really nice eyes, now that she looked, but there was something else there -
this is an extreme nitpick, but it might read smoother as 'They really were nice eyes...'
"Your old mom's got a few surprises in her yet, you know."
"I... yeah. You, uh, you sure do, Mom! Uh... hey."
"Hello! Yes. Sorry. Um." Ah, thought Buffy, the Giles is strong with this one. Wait, why does this feel so, um, normal? "Sorry. It's just... she'd be about your age now."
I am having trouble following this bit. Monica is articulate in her greeting to Buffy. Buffy is taken aback by her mom's quite sudden announcement that she is interested in women, but she's rolling with it. Then Monica says hello for a second time, only now she is stammering. Then a thought from Buffy is inserted in the middle of Monica's dialogue. Then Monica finishes up with what I believe indicates that she remembers having Hermione, but perhaps thinks her daughter is dead. These three things should be separated out into three paragraphs, so you don't have more than one person's input in a paragraph.
Oh. That was it.
I thought the comment about Giles was directed toward his tendency to stammer a bit, but this doesn't go with that thought at all. I never managed to get through the last season and a half of Buffy, did we find out that Giles had a child that he lost? I don't remember him ever mentioning that he did. Buffy understanding that Monica has lost someone is good, but as is seems to relate to the comment about Giles.
Overall, this is a nice little story. I think Buffy's voice is right in line with canon. The story raises more questions than it answers, so if I stumbled across this on a fic site, I would hope that it was the first chapter, or the first section of a longer fic. How did Monica get to the US? Why didn't she just go home? How does she remember Hermione? Why did her husband stay under the spell that compelled them to Australia? Lots of questions, which are never a bad thing -
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I picked up on the use of "they" and knew that Buffy's mom was dating a woman.
I saw the movie and was aware that there was a show, but didn't watch much.
It's a little jarring that Buffy is saying "I'm just going to clean my room, mom." and then switches to wanting to talk about why her mother is smiling. -
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That's not Buffy speaking, but Joyce. She's doing the thing that parents do when their kid asks them a question.
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One score, and seven years in the past by
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...,on May 17, 1990, the WHO stopped considering homosexuality a disease.
Happy International Day against Homophobia, transphobia, and Biphobia, fellow LGBTQ+ people! -
So many parties, so little time! by
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I don't think I can eat any more virtual cake! Mmph!
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The image that was supposed to go along with the message... by
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...but didn't because apparently I can't HTML.
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Great! by
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Huh, I didn't know that—that the WHO ever officially considered it a disease, or that they stopped. I'm glad I do now.
Now, if we could just get people to stop seeking "cures"... {= P
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Yay! *Throws cake everywhere.* (nm) by
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*throws rainbow confetti in the air*
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Permission attempt by
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Bios: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C05Pap1Xa31gJVgNTj2GYyzm_WEJhJpNGCv1USip6q0/edit?usp=sharing
Writing samples:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ijyHNt_jxU-gaTn73_aUUPBDJGfl8JMhJNOm6o-eug8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CyB4fcXTAWGBdksPSf05aGiKGboAT9iqpbP5lV8isLs
Badfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6981888/1/Tormentor. It has an wangsty Harry replacement and bad spelling. It also gives Harry some Dementor powers and makes him the son of Voldemort.
Beta: Jay - Awesomeness Central -
Okay, so here's the thing: by
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There is nothing in here that makes me care about the characters. In the first sample, they both wander into HQ, but they don't come across as upset, interested, surprised, confused... anything. There's no emotion there at all. Just he said/she said dialogue.
I can see you're aware of that being a problem and have tried to work on it. You've managed to avoid them being literal talking heads - there's a fair amount of movement in both stories. But none of that is translating into emotion. Take a look at these examples:
“What? Normally, humans just catch us in a Pokéball.” Shadow glared at Canopus. “If you try, I will make you stop.”
Canopus picked Shadow up, causing him to struggle.
“Put me down!”
“Fine.” Canopus placed him on the floor.
Why did Canopus pick Shadow up? Because he was annoying? Because she wanted to show her strength? Because she found it funny? Absolutely no idea. And why did she put him down? Again, there's no emotion there - it feels like "Verbal input 'put me down' received; executing command."
“... Shadow, the food’s worse than what I had in Tokyo and that’s saying something.” Canopus slapped the hand away. “Trust me on that one.”
Shadow frowned before focusing. A pile of toxic waste appeared in front of the door.
“Are you trying to dissuade me with that?” Canopus raised an eyebrow. “Some demons are worse than that.”
“Like what?” asked Shadow. Canopus pulled out her phone.
“Well, there’s Foul Slime, for one. Look.” She showed Shadow the picture.
“Okay. that could be worse. Anyway…” Shadow blinked and both the door and the console disappeared. “I’m not letting you go.”
This one goes even more into the no emotion. Shadow has no reason for creating the pile (I assume that was an attack? Or just an illusion?). Canopus doesn't find it amusing, or mildly disgusting, or contemptuous. Shadow has no reaction to being flatly rebuffed, nor does he find the picture she shows him disgusting, informative, horrifying... anything. "Visual input received; executing next dialogue."
Then there's the dialogue itself. It looks like you're suffering from what I usually call Cowrite Disease, where both characters try and cram as much information as possible into their dialogue, and reply to everything. Only... people don't work like that. If I walked up to you and said "Hi, my name's Huinesoron, how are you doing? Also would you like a cookie? And by the way, I've got this new story you might like to check out, what's your email address?", you'd a) think I was crazy, and b) say something like "Uh, I'd love a cookie, thanks... what's this about a story?"
What you wouldn't say is: "Hi, I'm CodeCom, I'm doing fine. A cookie sounds nice! Anyway, wow, I'd really like to read it, here's my email address. By the way, what's your favourite colour? And have you ever played any Pokemon games?"
Now look at this:
“What?!” the grey demon spun on its four legs. “I’m a Pokémon, not a demon. Whatever that is.”
“Trying to lie, huh? I’m pretty sure you’re a demon, though I’ve never seen one like you.” Canopus pulled out her smartphone and flicked to the Demon Summoning App. “What happened to all my demons?! What the hell?!”
“I’m not a demon! I’m a Zorua!” the demon took a few steps back. “And there’s no need to threaten me. Everyone knows what a Pokemon is, at least.”
“Well, I don’t. And it doesn't matter what your species is, that still makes you a demon.” Canopus glared down at her smartphone. “Great, I’m also stuck with all the weak skills. Why am I telling you this anyway?”
It's not quite so blatant as my examples, but you've definitely got multi-threaded conversation there. It's a very easy trap to fall into, because that is how people talk online. A lot of my early missions do the same thing (and co-writes are particularly prone to it). But it also feels nothing like actual conversation.
Okay, so at this point I think it's clear I'm going to say Permission denied, but don't let that dissuade you! You're doing an awful lot of things right. Your spelling etc is good; you've avoided Talking Heads Disorder (well done!); you clearly know a bit about PPC HQ; you've managed to keep your characters consistent across two stories. A bit of work on getting them to talk like people and react like non-robots and you'll be set. (For the former, try reading the dialogue out, and work out what you'd say in response; if you'd like, I'll scribble down some 'faux-Shadow replies' to Canopus' dialogue in the first story, to show you what I mean.)
Moving on to some other points I noticed:
-It's standard in online writing to leave an empty line between paragraphs. If you don't want to do that (for some reason?), at least indent the first line; it makes reading much easier.
-When you fixed that line Bramandin pointed out, you left it as 'I only work with people only for a mission.' That's two 'only's in a row, which sounds super weird (read it out!); I think you were originally aiming for 'I only work with people on a mission'.
-'Shadow stalked over and punched Shadow in the face.' Shadow, I know you can make illusory copies of yourself, but don't get carried away. ;)
-Looking now at your bios (I tend to avoid them until I need to read them; I prefer to get character information from the stories):
--Both your characters are presented as being interesting primarily for their emotions, and the interplay between them - reserved Canopus (who has a hidden fun side) and playful Shadow (who can be irritating when he doesn't shut up). But... well, see previous comments about emotions in your writing. The only reason I know from your stories that Canopus is reserved is that she flat-out says it. Ditto for Shadow being a prankster. It's a really interesting dynamic you have planned, but right now it isn't coming across in your writing.
--I have no problems with the powers and backgrounds; two things, though:
a) Canopus is a trained, jaded, scarred and emotionally-battered professional at 17? Is that... common in her 'verse?
b) Do Zorua normally have names? Most Pokemon don't unless they're captured. I remember having this same conversation about Skarm's agent Falchion.
--Be aware that we have another (mute) Zorua in HQ.
--RC numbers are normally... well... numbers. Check the list. '4SMT4A' strays quite a bit further from that than normal.
-I have no issues with the badfic you've chosen.
If anyone can offer better advice than me on the emotional issue, I'd appreciate it; I'm aware that I haven't been very clear.
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Thanks for the advice Huinesoron by
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I'll work on what you've said
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Canopus is quite normal for her universe by
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The Shin Megami Tensei canon is not a happy place, and Apocalypse is a very appropriate subtitle. Canopus is from a world that is overrun by demons and has been sealed underground for her entire life. The canons from Apocalypse finish their training in the prologue at the age of 15, and have already seen multiple other hunters die fighting demons. Being a battle hardened veteran at 17 is quite plausible in that environment.
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My non-PG two cents by
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First Meeting
First off, this is not my style. Probably because I've never had a lick of interest in demon hunting 'verses and rarely enjoy magic smartphone apps and other enchanted computers. I am unlikely to become a regular reader of your spinoff. That said, I read the story, and it had a a lot of high and low points which stuck out to me.
Canopus picking Shadow up. . . feels a little abrupt (I hadn't imagined them standing close enough together that this would be easy), but it's also pretty funny -- Shadow's just been strutting around, talking about how he's powerful enough to fight Canopus off, and when he gets picked up, all he can do is struggle and beg to be put down. It might be a a little too subtle, though: I missed the joke the first time I read through the story.
“You do realise that you seem even more like a demon to me, right?” I like this line :)
Canopus is oddly upfront and casual about her issues, immediately admitting -- no, declaring -- that the reason she avoids people is too stop herself from getting hurt. I actually kind of like the idea of a character who treats typical angst-topics as no big deal -- there's a lot of potential for humor there.
The ending is a little abrupt, but I think it works. They've met, their relationship has been established, and I don't really need to know how they spent the rest of their search -- although I would like a story about how they realized where they were and changed their attitude from "trying to escape" to "hey, let's work here." But that can wait, I suppose!
SPaG:“What?!” the grey demon spun on its four legs. You want a capital-T The here.
Lawsuit
Is Shadow in human or Pokemon form during this story?
Did. . . did Shadow make a pile of toxic waste appear? Why? From Canopus' reaction, it seems like the pile of toxic waste was supposed to make her reconsider the idea of a lawsuit, somehow. I don't understand.
Ooooooooh, Canopus sees Shadow as a friend! Cute.
Shadow's clone spell seems out of the blue. They weren't in a fight, really. . . well, they seemed to mostly be verbally sparring. I wasn't expecting Canopus to physically lash out -- why did Shadow take precautions?
Oh, Shadow. Do not tempt the Ironic Overpower :)
The ending for this one was definitely too abrupt. Canopus' confession that she was kidding came very quickly, and then you cut the story off in the middle of Shadow's reaction -- I would like to see more of what Shadow thinks of being lied to beyond a simple, vague, "What?!" and a shocked stare. Has he lost trust in her? Does he think it's hilarious? This story doesn't feel over to me.
Verdict
Your writing is not my thing at all, but quite nice in its way. It's enjoyable, but there are spots which need quite a bit of work: my prediction is that you'll be denied Permission, but you'll get your own spinoff on your second try.
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Not a permission giver. by
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Hmmm, another intelligent Pokemon. I don't think we've got too many yet.
It's interesting that both agents are pranksters.
Hmmm, the grammar on your first meeting seems pretty good. I noticed a few mistakes. "I only work with people only a mission. "
Lawsuit feels like a better story. "food’s worse that what I had in Tokyo" I thought that agents didn't get paid at all.
I would like to hear a bit about your agents' abilities and how you plan to use them. We get a good demonstration of Shadow. It seems like more than "lol, I don't need a disguise generator." Does Canopus' cell-phone give her any special abilities? I am concerned that her training will just allow her to wail on Sues without being in danger. -
Thanks Bram by
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I've corrected the mistakes.
There is a Cafeteria in HQ so they went there for food.
Canopus' mobile has an app that lets her summon demons and use their skills. As it is reliant on Canopus remembering to keep it charged, it can stop working. Also, using the skills drains some of her own energy so she can't keep it up forever.
Canopus is still a low level Hunter so isn't the strongest person out there.
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Friday Forum: Insert Subtitle Here by
on 2017-05-19 08:47:00 UTC
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Hello again, and welcome to your weekly dose of news, views, and... snooze? I dunno.
Please remember that, when it comes to the state of the world, not everyone will agree with you. You're free to state, discuss, and defend your viewpoint (provided it does not violate the Constitution), but please don't use that fact to attack others.
Fandom News
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Soooo hands up who remembered there's a new Star Trek series on the way? :D Yes, we finally have a proper trailer for Star Trek: Discovery, which is revealed as taking place ten years before TOS. Actually, we have two trailers: a 1:50 cut and a 2:24 cut which has vanished from YouTube. The only reason I'm aware of the second is that my phone popped it up on my newsfeed last night.
As a part-time Trek fan (we've been watching Voyager; for some reason it's the only one we've been able to stick with), I'm cautiously excited for this. It certainly looks very pretty, and I love that uniform design. The ship itself (as seen breaking through the clouds) doesn't look half bad from this angle, either - rather more NX-01 than NCC-1701, but maybe that's not a bad thing? (The Internet suggests that might not be Discovery, but Shenzou, Michelle Yeoh's ship. We shall see.)
On the other hand, it does look like the first episode is Invasion from the Lens-Flare Dimension, and I'm finding those Klingons pretty disturbing. We'll see, I guess.
Silly News
(The Netherlands & Japan)
There's no serious way to put this... the king of the Netherlands has a secret double life as a pilot. As in, he secretly takes the co-pilot's slot on commercial flights, without telling the passengers who he is.
He's been doing this twice a month since he became king in 2013, and for 21 years total. He, uh, is now training to fly the Boeing 737, too. So... yeah? Good for him?
Meanwhile, over in Asia (yes, Friday Forum does know of a world beyond Europe and America...!), Princess Mako of Japan is giving up her royal titles to marry a commoner, as required under Japanese law. As it happens, her aunt Sayako did the same thing back in 2005 - she went from being the daughter of the Emperor to living in a one-bedroom apartment.
Neither of them were eligable for the throne - apparently only males can inherit (which puts Mako's younger brother third in line) - but even so.
Serious News
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Ian Brady, one of a pair of serial killers known as the Moors Murderers arrested in the '60s, has died in prison (and who said Serious News had to be bad news?). He did so without ever revealing the location of the body of his one still-missing victim, though it doesn't seem like he was ever going to. The other four were buried on Saddleworth Moor, though (and have been recovered), and that's where the interesting part of this story comes in:
Christopher Sumner, the senior coroner running the inquest on his death, has refused to release the body until he's received an assurance that Brady's ashes will not be scattered on Saddleworth Moor. He says he's fully aware that he isn't legally entitled to make that request - but that he's doing it anyway, for moral/ethical reasons. I find that quite heartwarming. Good on you, Mr. Sumner.
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The Grand Canyon is a) very pretty, and b) haunted. Possibly by the ghosts of dead oceans.
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Dark Crystal is getting a Netflix series. by
on 2017-05-23 03:34:00 UTC
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Who is ready for a trip back to the planet Thra? Netflix announced Thursday that it is producing a 10-episode TV series prequel to Jim Henson’s 1982 fantasy film, The Dark Crystal.
The series is called The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance and takes place many years before the events of the much-beloved movie. According to the official synopsis, the show concerns three Gelfling who discover the horrifying secret behind the Skeksis’ power, and set out on an epic journey to ignite the fires of rebellion and save their world.
The series will be shot in the U.K. and will star an ensemble of fantastical creatures created by Jim Henson’s Creature Shop and Brian Froud, the original feature’s conceptual designer. Filmmaker Louis Leterrier (Now You See Me, The Incredible Hulk) will executive-produce the series and direct. -
I aten't dead. by
on 2017-05-22 19:59:00 UTC
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(This seemed like the best place to say so.)
I was busy hanging out with my in-laws and having an important choir performance, so I haven't been online all weekend. Just in case anyone was wondering. I'll try to get back on track this week. I know there's more work to do.
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Hope you had fun. (nm) by
on 2017-05-23 11:36:00 UTC
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Ooh, how'd the performance go? (nm) by
on 2017-05-23 06:22:00 UTC
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It was kind of a mess, actually. ^. ^; by
on 2017-05-23 14:48:00 UTC
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We had four or five different church choirs thrown together for the first time just before the performance. Some of us had been working with a different arrangement of one of the pieces than the one we were using. Fortunately, it was simple enough to pick up, but still frustrating. Plus, two songs that we hadn't practiced and I, at least, didn't know, and had to pick up without music on the spot. >_>;
But, I don't think anyone in the audience noticed. It was a big enough group that the people who knew what they were doing could cover up those that didn't, and I was told by a couple people that we sounded great. So, I guess that's all right.
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Ah, one of those :) by
on 2017-05-23 17:51:00 UTC
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It's amazing learning about what audiences do and don't notice, and the differences between the performer's perspective and theirs. I love the experience of finding out. Glad it appeared to go well! :)
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My finals are over - time to bingewatch! by
on 2017-05-20 04:05:00 UTC
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After a week of pain, suffering, and studying, I've finally finished my finals. On a side note, I feel as if I've been hit by a truck. Huinesoron, you just reminded me that I should be watching more Star Trek. Thank you, I truly do need more fandom stuff in my life. Have a good weekend!
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I'm gonna make reacting to this a thing for me. by
on 2017-05-20 01:45:00 UTC
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Reaction to the Fandom News:
Oh, that's awesome! I don't know too much about Star Trek stuff past TNG (haven't done much research), but if Star Trek has been a thing for this long, it's probably still good, right? The lens flares are kinda humorous for me, considering my school band had a concert yesterday evening and someone said about the bright auditorium lights: "Oh god! Lens flares! It's like Star Trek all over again!"
Reaction to the Silly News:
I don't know much about Japan's current systems (wow, do I seriously know more about the world before I was born than I do about what it is now?) but I definitely can say I'm not surprised that that's a law. The country is very tradition-oriented and tends to keep to itself, which I guess sort of gives anime an excuse for not being the most politically correct. (One more point to consider in the debate.) As for the King of the Netherlands... Well, there's gotta be some way for heads of state to have fun and get away from the responsibilities and the publicity for a while! :P
Reaction to the Serious News:
Yeah, that would've caused a bit of controversy.
Reaction to the Not News:
...Care to elaborate? Otherwise I'm probably going to look up "grand canyon haunted" on Google to see if there's anyone who believes that there literally are ghosts there. :P
And my own addition:
Anyone who reads this, here's a writing exercise idea for you. Go onto the Superpower Wiki (link below my signature) and hit "Random Page." Then come up with a character with the specific power you get. (It's okay if you click it again because you get something a bit Sueish, but if you get something really unique and obscure, please do it!)
-Twistey
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Elaboration: see the video. Haunted! (nm) by
on 2017-05-20 07:58:00 UTC
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It didn't load, but it's safe enough for other devices. by
on 2017-05-20 16:42:00 UTC
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"Safe" as in "not PPC-related" as in "my parents ain't gonna kill me"...
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I hope that Star Trek series works out. by
on 2017-05-19 14:01:00 UTC
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Also, that's an awesome picture of the Grand Canyon.
Also also, the article on Princess Mako says Emperor Akihito is considering abdication? I wonder why? And for that matter, why isn't the Japanese Emperor allowed to abdicate? I guess it's a holdover from back when the Emperor had way more political power. Any Japanese political history experts, feel free to weigh in. -
Elementary has been renewed! by
on 2017-05-19 11:22:00 UTC
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I'm not sure if any of you watch this excellent little show, but it looks like there's going to be a sixth season! Personally, I'm delighted that I'll get to see more of Joan's wonderful fashion sense (and by extension, Lucy Liu's lovely face). Yeah I'm shallow.
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Whoa heck, are we up to Season 6? by
on 2017-05-19 11:33:00 UTC
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Kaitlyn and I have the DVDs for one through... three? Four? I can't actually remember what even was happening. Something dramatic, at any rate.
May have to look up the next one and see if we can buy it...
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Has not watched Elementary (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 11:39:00 UTC
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Is interested in Star Trek series (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 08:55:00 UTC
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I'm afraid it is my turn to say farewell. by
on 2017-05-19 10:33:00 UTC
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This has been a long, suffered decision on my part, but in the end there's nothing I can do about it.
I haven't been feeling comfortable here at the PPC lately, especially after all the recent drama, and I am afraid that the Concillary, while a great idea, in the end didn't manage to change my feelings either.
This doesn't mean that I'll stop writing - I fully intend to finish Blank Sprite, continue Keiko's spinoff, and the final chapter of IrregularS will be published soon. Just keep an eye on the Wiki and on Fanfiction.net for the next releases, and please use the comment functions for concrit.
So, it is my time to say goodbye. Please don't answer with "don't go please" - I have already made my decision. I might be back one day, but not soon.
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I'll see you around. *Optional!Hugs* by
on 2017-05-20 00:50:00 UTC
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Definitely keeping an eye out for Blank Sprite, in any case.
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Namarië! (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 23:21:00 UTC
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It was nice knowing you. Do take care of yourself. (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 20:03:00 UTC
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Goodbye Sergio. Hope we'll see you again someday. (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 18:37:00 UTC
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Seeya around (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 18:25:00 UTC
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:( *offers farewell hugs* (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 18:06:00 UTC
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- See you, space cowboy. by on 2017-05-19 15:24:00 UTC Link to this
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You've got to do what's right for you. by
on 2017-05-19 15:13:00 UTC
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Just know that we'll save that spot in the bin if you ever feel like stopping by.
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So long and thanks for all the fish! *waves back* (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 13:54:00 UTC
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I'm sorry, Sergio. I'll miss you. (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 12:24:00 UTC
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I wish you all the best. (nm) by
on 2017-05-19 11:20:00 UTC
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Bye by
on 2017-05-19 10:56:00 UTC
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I hope we'll see you again one day but for now, goodbye.
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:( Good luck. (nm) by
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HEEELLOOO EVERYPONY!!!!! by
on 2017-05-20 21:08:00 UTC
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I have very super-duper-mega exciting news! I'm so very excited that I could go: "GAAAAAAAAAAAASP!" Just like that time... but then again, what could ever top that? Maybe some super big bouncy castle shaped like a chocolate cake! Or maybe ―
*Edhelistar grabs the pink party pony and shoves her into a portal back to Equestria*
Hello everyone! And sorry, for... ahem... that... Anyway, yes, I'm Edhelistar, and yes, I'm still alive. *whistles* It has been a long time! I see so many new usernames, and quite as many familiar ones. And Nesh, PC... sorry I didn't came back to the corrections of the Mission. =(
The reason I dropped so unexpectedly, was because, well, I had a great amount of personal issues, most of them health issues... I developed hypertension, diabetes... and worst of all at around October-November I had a very bad depressive episode, so bad I nearly failed my entire semester. Right now, I'm still recovering from that, and I just recently felt well enough for drawing again, and even more recently, to write again. My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, was, and still is, a great help in my recovery in fact.
For now, any Mission writing or any other PPC content is on hold, until I feel I could do it again.
For any newbies around, who I haven't met before... uh, hi? I once roleplayed as the entire Justice League in the Board... and none of you probably have read any of my two missions... I think. Who knows? Maybe some did it! (And if you did: I'm so ever very grateful! Could you share your thoughts?)
Speaking of my writing, I have a second announcement! I did mention I came back to writing, but it isn't PPC related, but still, I require willing beta readers who could help me SPaG, narrative and fact checking my work. The work in question is a fanfic, my first ever I have ever written. So, if anyone is willing to help, first, would, preferably, have very deep knowledge of the My Little Pony franchise in general, though, being up-to-date with Friendship is Magic is enough. And second, provide me with a way contact him/her/whatever pronoun you choose.
I think that's all I have to say for now... If you feel like I forgot something, something seems sketchy for you or just have any question, ask away, I won't bite you (unless you ask me to... But why would you ask that!?)
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Well, welcome back! by
on 2017-05-31 21:45:00 UTC
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Sorry it's taken me forever to respond to this. Real Life, that rat bastard, got in the way.
Anyway, as for your request for betas, as you might recall, I am very familiar with MLP and it's fandom. However, as last stated, I am going through some Real Life things right now that make it difficult for me to do so. I'd be happy to try, but don't be surprised if it takes a while for me to get back to you.
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Do not despair my friend! by
on 2017-06-03 04:35:00 UTC
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I do understand, and don't worry is an ongoing project, and there will always something to beta, since I'll be keeping all the chapters in the same doc, so you will always have something to beta
(I'll try to find a way to mark the ones which are published soon once I start doing it, though)
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I'm knowledgeable about My Little Pony by
on 2017-05-23 13:54:00 UTC
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I used to watch the original MLP and collect the toys. I've watched FiM, though I might slip and think a Friendship is Witchcraft episode is canon.
I'm willing to research. I've got plenty of time on my hands.
For betaing, you might have to ask me to clarify some things.
I read part of the story with Feratu, not sure if I finished it in the past. How many agents are on that mission? Plus with mentioning other members of Skarmory's army, there were too many characters to keep track of. -
I might be desperate for betas but... by
on 2017-05-25 16:58:00 UTC
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...I don't think you understand the knowledge required. I very clearly specified that I need someone who's up to date with My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic , that means up to Season 7, Episode 7 of the US broadcast or Season 7, Episode 8 of the Canadian broadcast, at the date of this writing, at the least!
For clarification, required secondary knowledge, in order of importance, are:
1.- All Equestria Girls movies and shorts.
2.- All G3 specials and shorts, the Meet the Ponies series of shorts, all G3.5 shorts and .
3.- The G1 show My Little Pony Tales.
The original show is the one I require the least. And you didn't mention to be up to date in G4, therefore I assume you don't have enough canon knowledge to beta this fic.
Second, according to the anecdotes and recounts above, you seem to have issues with characterization and narrative, the things that worry me the most to get right. If you can't get your own characters right... How can I trust you to know if I got a character (which isn't even mine) right?
Third, research won't help you know how a character acts and reacts, you need to watch or read them on action. And if you couldn't keep up with four agents, much less you'd be able to keep up with five plotlines happening at the same time. And if I need to clarify stuff like this, you're not fit for beta duty.
Fourth, you seem to have a very bad reputation among the Boarders, and that doesn't exactly fills me with trust. Yes, that means I don't trust you.
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Hello returnbie. (nm) by
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Hello! (nm) by
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*chuckles* Hi, Pinkie. And hello Edhelistar. by
on 2017-05-21 19:02:00 UTC
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What a way to open a Board post! What a way to come back!
I'm Twistey (although I won't be called that for long, as I'll explain later), and I joined the PPC some time this year (shoot, couldn't grab the date before the post disappeared). I came here out of curiosity, then got hooked on the original idea of this place. I'm into a crud ton of fandoms (MLP being one of them, as you can see), and my interests include game design/coding, writing, drawing, crafting, and pretty much anything creative. My main thing used to be Scratch, but I'm working on getting to Newgrounds and other places (hence why the Twistey alias will soon be dropped.) It's very nice to meet you, and great to hear about both the return and the recovery. Now that you mention it, I should go read some of your missions.
Nice to meet you!
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Grabed it for you by
on 2017-05-23 16:31:00 UTC
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Your first post to the Board was on April 4th, 2017.
There is a "Next Page" button at the bottom of the page, and at the bottom of the next page, etc. Currently, the board goes back to September 17th, 2015 (about fifty pages).
Also, if you remember a peculiar word or sequence of words, you may use the "Search" field at the top of the page, and since you immediately adopted the habit of signing your comments, searching for "-Twistey" brings up all your (recent) posts. (Apparently there is a limit at one hundred results.)
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Ohhhhhhhh! There it is! (nm) by
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Nice to meet ya, Twistey! by
on 2017-05-21 20:17:00 UTC
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Best of luck with your projects! And if you like superheroes, you might like my missions. ;)
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Thanks! And I bookmarked one of your missions to read later. by
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Think it was called "KnightFail" or something. Sounds hilarious.
Funny thing, I might include a slight reference to the PPC in one of my games. The game will be called "Sue VS Sue," and it'll be like Mortal Kombat or something, a one-on-one fighting game except with Mary Sues. There'll be something about a "monster" living underneath the arena that feeds on Sues' power, and one of the possible deaths for a character will be that they're pulled underground by a vine-tentacle. (Like a captured Flower gone crazy. Or something.) It's going to be quite a funny game, I just know it. :)
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Oh my! I feel flattered! by
on 2017-05-22 23:12:00 UTC
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That's actually a co-write with SkarmorySilver. the other Mission is "Fear Fear Itself". And then there's the Interlude... They are all linked in my main character's page.
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Yeah, I've been to Solvig's page. by
on 2017-05-23 22:28:00 UTC
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She seems like an interesting character. I'll bookmark that other one too. Yay!
Sue VS Sue isn't the only game I'm going to make, but it's probably going to be one of the first, since a side-view platformer would be easier to code than most other things I've got planned. I'm also going to do a few animations - in fact, the reason I started posting to the board was to ask about an animated series set in the PPC continuum, starring two characters who function as "fanfic's hired mercenaries". (My parents don't like this group, so I gotta lie low. :P)
Anyway, I don't have much else to say. Looking forward to hearing your reply.
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Welcome back! :D *tosses Spikes* (nm) by
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I think you should see Nurse Joy... by
on 2017-05-21 22:19:00 UTC
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Thie Spikes are becoming kind of an issue, dontcha think?
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Welcome back! (nm) by
on 2017-05-20 21:10:00 UTC
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