First: the mission.
Of Guilty Pleasures and Utter Tripe (note: mildly NSFW)
Agents: Valon Vance, Kala Jeng, Dawn McKenna, Kozar, the Reader (not in the mission proper)
Continua: Twilight and the Inheritance Cycle
Fic: Legend of the Night Angel
New concepts: Liminal moon-madness
Four agents tackle a crossover between two of the worst works defended by the PPC.
Second: A Ten Years Hence story, featuring the resultant dragon from the rescued egg in the mission!
Seren the Dragon Rider
Characters: Seren, Ruth, Davey, Elanor, Owain, Leyuu, Valon, Kala
We hope you enjoy these stories!
~DF, Voyd
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Two Stories for the Price of One! by
on 2015-07-01 03:43:00 UTC
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Some very delayed thoughts. by
on 2015-07-12 20:17:00 UTC
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Sorry it took so long to get to this. 'S been crazy busy here.
I have to admit, I couldn't really get into this mission all that much. Part of the problem for me was the interactions between the various agents. It all felt very lackluster apart from the flirting between Valon and Kala. I thought that was all right, if a bit out of place. I had to roll my eyes at the "overreacting agent" trope again.
Also, there were quite a few gags that just sort of fell flat. The physical jokes in particular (like Valon pulling things out of his pockets) didn't work. I understand that humor is a subjective topic, but I think it can be argued that prop comedy does not necessarily translate all that well to the written medium.
A few last questions/concerns regarding the main mission:
— Was it ever explained why there was no first-person dummy and they didn't get possessed, or did I miss that part?
— Were povs as creatures first introduced in this mission? I can't find any mention of them on the wiki.
— The first mini that showed up (the sparklewolf) was never named in text, that I saw. It's advisable to always state their name in the mission itself.
— Why did they use Retcon and not a neuralyzer? Retcon is more easily undone, if I understand it correctly.
Now, on to the dragon interlude. It was charming enough, but as Tira said, it was confusing given that it wasn't explained who the kids were. Having wiki entries is fine and all, but a good story should give you all the information you need inside itself.
All in all, I'd say these stories need work. They just feel really rough to me. Other people have obviously differed, so make of my thoughts what you will.
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Good story by
on 2015-07-02 02:36:00 UTC
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Though I (thankfully) never read Twilight, and only have a passing knowledge of Eragon thanks to the movie, the mission wasn't totally incomprehensible. This was pretty well-written.
But, of course, I've spotted a few errors.
First off, a Latin error:
Oh, and ‘carus unus’ is completely the wrong way to say ‘dear one’ or ‘my dear,’ she should probably be calling Bella ‘cara mia’.
You're off by one letter. The word for "my," declined to feminine vocative singular, is mea.
Mia is a Latin word, but it's actually a verb in the imperative singular, and I'm pretty sure that its meaning is not the concept you're looking for.
The remaining issues are in the English:
1) The disguised girtablilu set to shredding Valon’s shirt with a will,
Please explain what you're trying to say here. I don't get it.
2) Since you’re the Disentangler, and all.
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THANK YOOOOUUU by
on 2015-07-02 02:56:00 UTC
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With the Latin, I was going with the Portal song, which refers to the subject as "cara mia." I'll change it if it's incorrect, though.
As for the thing with Kala, to "set to (activity) with a will" is to do something with a lot of energy. Kala's pretty much lost to the moon at that point; literally all of her thoughts are "Love Valon, warm Valon, join with Valon Valon Valon Valon Valon Valon Valon Valon Valon." -
Thank you. by
on 2015-07-02 04:19:00 UTC
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As for the Portal song, perhaps the "cara mia" was supposed to be in Italian, not Latin. Otherwise, they got it wrong.
As for Kala, it looks like I learned a new turn-of-phrase. Perhaps it's not that familiar where I live... -
Thoughts by
on 2015-07-01 14:30:00 UTC
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The mission was pretty good. I like the advancement of Valon and Kala's relationship, and Kozar is very funny. I didn't think Bella could be even more of a Sue, but obviously I was wrong.
I found the Ten Years Hence story to be overly confusing, personally. I'm not familiar with the majority of the characters, and the wiki isn't helping me figure out who they are. -
Alright, children pages. by
on 2015-07-01 18:01:00 UTC
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Seren and Owain now have pages, which link to just about everything else and should give at least some idea of who they are. Ruby and Davey will be listed in the Glossary (with a line of explanation) once I get a chance; for now, though, Ruby is somewhat explained on Seren and Owain's pages and Davey is a rescued kid!Doctor replacement.
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Thanks for adding that! by
on 2015-07-01 18:15:00 UTC
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It helps the story make more sense knowing who the people involved are. Ruth is very cute.
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Your TYH confusion is probably on me. by
on 2015-07-01 16:24:00 UTC
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Ruth is new, of course, but of the remaining seven characters, three are mine, and out of those only Seren and Owain have so far appeared in anything on or linked to the Board--the first Purim RP* (I don't think they made it into the second). I didn't even quite realize I could make pages for them until it was already pretty late my time, so I've left it for the morning. I'll link them here once I've made them--probably within the next few hours. Sorry about that.
The thing about Bella, of course, is that SMeyer--oddly enough--didn't go as overboard with her powers as she could have. That is to say, even as a vampire she didn't get multiple powers--just one heavily lauded one. She's a different type of Sue in canon than she was in this fic, which...yeah, makes this one stand out. At least SMeyer didn't hit all the Sue cliches; "Legend of the Night Angel" managed to hit a whole bunch more, and even swap some out for each other. And I still don't get why Zack Night had that weird blue swirl in his eyes--he's not a 'hybrid', but this Bella also had one--oh, right. Logic. Doesn't work. I will stop.
And that makes another person who likes Kozar. Huh. I like him well enough myself, but I hadn't expected even this much favorable response to him. It's interesting.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
~DF
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*Link goes to their appearance, not the beginning of the RP. That can be found here (for the beginning of the segment they appeared in), and here (for the beginning of the Purim RP itself).
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Happy Canada Day! by
on 2015-07-01 13:41:00 UTC
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So... yeah. Not as much of a big deal as the thing that's on the 4th but still... 148 years of confederation is nothing to scoff at. Just two more years until we can reach that nice round 150.
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And to you, sir! by
on 2015-07-01 16:40:00 UTC
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Oddly enough, I'm actually doing something for it this year: going to see some fireworks with my friends.
My mom and I are also going to plant some seeds. (Though I think we would've been doing that anyway, but shhh.) Should be fun, if it doesn't start raining again.
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Well... by
on 2015-07-01 16:59:00 UTC
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...museums are free today and so is the bus-- I think I'll go downtown and visit the War Museum 'cause they got a gladiator exhibit going on. Gladiators are cool. Other than that... not much.
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...say, does that mean you're home now? by
on 2015-07-01 17:03:00 UTC
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How was the vacation? And welcome back, if I can welcome you back to a place I don't live in... :)
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Vacation was awesome. by
on 2015-07-01 17:30:00 UTC
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Now I'm just stuck in the process of labelling all of my pictures on my computer. Neatness first!
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Can't say I do that too often. Wish I did bother, though. by
on 2015-07-02 17:14:00 UTC
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Also, by the way--Ix and I have been trying to reach you by chat. Any idea when you'll be available to join us in plotting? :)
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I have a patchy schedule nowadays... by
on 2015-07-02 17:54:00 UTC
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...but I'm mostly free in the evenings. I'll try to poke you and Iximaz later tonight.
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Permission Request! by
on 2015-07-01 20:12:00 UTC
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After about 5 different iterations, 7 scrapped agent concepts, and about a year of procrastination, I finally have this thing done. Here goes nuthin'!
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Congratulations! (nm) by
on 2015-07-03 15:31:00 UTC
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Congrats :) Happy writing! by
on 2015-07-02 18:06:00 UTC
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/cautiously steals some of Iximaz's cakefetti and throws it/
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Congratulations! Have a Lava Cookie! (nm) by
on 2015-07-02 02:35:00 UTC
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*throws cakefetti* Congrats, man! (nm) by
on 2015-07-01 22:20:00 UTC
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Congratulations! (nm) by
on 2015-07-01 22:06:00 UTC
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*Puts a Hat on* by
on 2015-07-01 21:05:00 UTC
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Hoom, hoom.
*clears throat*
Right!
Activity:do I know you?You've been here long enough. Though I did spy a certain RL-induced drop in activity recently.
PPC knowledge: I do not see anything blatantly wrong. Or wrong. Or anything. You're good.
Fic to spork: I read one chapter and went 'augh' and I have it from credible sources the rest is just as bad.
Writing ability (creative): Gungan agent, oh yes, how didn't we think about this before? It's hilarious! I also particularly like how Bosh'Guk argues with him... themselves?
The first prompt is okayish, but the second had me clutching my ribs. All good.
Writing ability (technical): I don't see any booboos. I also know get your pieces beta'd, so I'm confident I won't be seeing any "My Immortal" clones growing up from under your pen before dragging themselves to a lake and plopping in, tentacles writhing.
Therefore, unless another PG objects: Permission Granted.
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Congrats! Have a blast! by
on 2015-07-03 19:00:00 UTC
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My activity will be nill for the rest few days.
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Congrats! *tosses Spikes* (nm) by
on 2015-07-03 00:34:00 UTC
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Congratulations! by
on 2015-07-02 14:42:00 UTC
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*blows noisemaker* Here's a plastic Velociraptor and a box of peanut butter cookies!
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Totally agree by
on 2015-07-01 21:11:00 UTC
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I actually liked the first prompt more than the second. The Murlock disguise was appropriate and fun. Anyway, everything else was spot on.
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See? by
on 2015-07-01 21:33:00 UTC
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You were thinking what I was thinking after all!
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:D by
on 2015-07-01 21:27:00 UTC
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Thanks to both of you! The first prompt was written after the second, so I had a much better idea of Bosh'Guk's character in particular. Anyway, glad to hear it's enjoyable. I had a lot of fun writing it!
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OT: Your Month of Zen by
on 2015-07-02 04:19:00 UTC
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For those unaware, Comedy Central is streaming every single Jon Stewart era episode of The Daily Show. They're calling it Your Month of Zen (even though it's actually going to run for about 42 days). As of this post, they've gotten up to January 2001. I've been sorta watching it on and off — I work from home, so I put it on my tablet as a background kind of thing. So, I wanted to share some of my thoughts on what I've seen so far.
A lot of those early episodes are, perhaps unsurprisingly, pretty uneven. The show was more of a flat local news parody than a satire. A lot of the correspondent field reports felt almost mean-spirited at times. And some of the jokes? Wow. If you weren't happy with those jokes that got upcoming host Trevor Noah in trouble, you would definitely be displeased with some of those early bits. Especially whenever the show dubbed over a foreign speaker.
Somewhat related, I wasn't too pleased with how much the show relied on specialty schtick correspondents. Unlike the regular correspondents, these would be people that basically had their own reoccurring thematic skit. A lot of these were very one note. They had one joke, and they drove it into the ground. Lewis Black's "Back in Black" bits were the best, which is probably why they are the only example left in the modern show.
All that being said, there's still some good glimpses of the show to come. The coverage leading up to the 2000 election (and the debacle that followed) is an excellent example. The first post-election episode showing everyone's ragged despondency was great. It's also interesting to see the big news stories of the time. It's like a time capsule, but funny!
One thing I'm looking forward to is the first episode after 9/11. Stewart's speech is wonderful and, to me, that very much feels like the first true example of the show as it exists now.
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Oh that! by
on 2015-07-02 21:45:00 UTC
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Man, I only started watching the show a few years ago so I have seriously never seen any of the old episodes. I mean, the look-backs over the last few episodes have been weird just for how much the sets changed over time.
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Paging Huinesoron by
on 2015-07-02 21:23:00 UTC
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So I'm writing an interlude that takes place in the Canon Library, and I was wondering if you could give it a look.
It introduces two new characters. One works in the Library, the other is a new Department of WhatThe agent. Saying more would ruin the surprise for both of them.
Basically, what I need help with is what the Canon Library looks like. I personally think of it as looking like the Jedi Archives, with building-sized shelves and aisles like streets. -
Try actually reading the things it appears in. (nm) by
on 2015-07-03 12:38:00 UTC
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For the record... by
on 2015-07-03 07:01:00 UTC
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... I don't think the Canon Librarian would tolerate anyone else working in his library.
Also he keeps the lights turned off and the whole place shrouded in unnatural darkness. ^_~
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Exactly what I said. by
on 2015-07-03 14:36:00 UTC
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Thanks for confirming it, though.
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Never mind! by
on 2015-07-02 23:04:00 UTC
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Ix and Darkotas gave me different ideas to work with. Sorry for pushing threads off, eheheh.
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Is Star Trek Online canon? by
on 2015-07-03 01:23:00 UTC
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At least a little? I, personally, consider it canon unless contradicted by the movies or tv shows. Memory Alpha seems to consider it non-canon, while TV Tropes seems to consider it fully canon. So, does anyone know where it sits on the 'canon spectrum?' Hey, a canon spectrum might be a good idea...
I just want to know so I can properly use a (prototype)Odyssey cruiser in a fanfic I'm writing. -
Technically, it's not canon by
on 2015-07-03 02:25:00 UTC
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With Star Trek, anything that's not from the live-action movies or tv shows isn't canon, end of story. However, a lot of people will declare elements of non-canon works part of their personal canon. So unless something in one of the episodes contradicts it, feel free to use it, though maybe put a comment in the author's notes or something.
(The EU moment that's totally part of my personal canon? The part from Spock's World where Amanda responds to a tabloid headline about her having married a little green man by saying "There's nothing little about my husband.") -
Okay. by
on 2015-07-03 03:25:00 UTC
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So, as long as I don't contradict the tv shows or movies, I should be safe. Unless the episode is threshold, in which case, everyone should try contradict it as much as possible.
What do you think about the 'Canon Spectrum' idea? I think it might be funny to have one, in order to go along with the suevian colour spectrum. -
I googled that episode... by
on 2015-07-03 13:44:00 UTC
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But my Star Trek-fu is weak; please enlighten me and tell me what's so bad about "Threshold".
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There may be more accurate sources... by
on 2015-07-03 14:33:00 UTC
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... but for sheer speed it's hard to beat Tv Tropes.
Here's what they have to say on the matter: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS2E15Threshold -
Depends on what it's a canon spectrum for by
on 2015-07-03 03:33:00 UTC
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If you mean for the PPC, I'm not sure how often it would apply. It's really only relevant for series with expanded universes. That said, I do think there's already an explanation of the differences between canon/fanon/headcanon. If you mean just for Star Trek, I'd have to say no. Personally, I find the Star Wars canon levels to be way too confusing to keep track of, and I like that the Star Trek rule is immediately discernible.
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I meant as a gag. by
on 2015-07-03 05:06:00 UTC
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As in, just one more thing for agents to complain about. But, as you've said, some canons are really confusing, so why not have characters argue over where things go? It could be a nice bit of meta humour, because all-too-many fans will know the same pain. The PPC started, after all, as a way to have some fun with something really annoying. A canon spectrum argument would go something like:
"We should place the comics over here, because they are clearly less canon"
"I disagree; we should place them ahead of the books!" Which could be funny. (Also, that is the first time in my life I have ever used a semicolon for anything except programming.) -
Though a Star Wars Canon Spectrum... by
on 2015-07-03 07:48:00 UTC
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Is actually not a bad idea. Since everything is a big mess right now, it actually might helpful for judging violations among other things. What do you all think? If you are interested in that I can work on one to add to the Wiki.
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Well, why not? by
on 2015-07-03 08:37:00 UTC
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It could, at the very least, provide some fuzzy guidelines for people to follow. I hope it can still be an in-universe gag, though.
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I see no reason why not. by
on 2015-07-03 08:49:00 UTC
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Just really remarking on what a mess the Star Wars Canon is right now. I'll see what others think.
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You can if you want to! by
on 2015-07-03 05:30:00 UTC
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If you can get a funny line or a decent plot point out of it, I say give it a shot.
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Pseudo-OT: Brewdening Love Expanded Universe Haiku by
on 2015-07-03 01:42:00 UTC
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It's BLEU! Da-ba-dee da-ba-die. =]
Anyway, I'm planning a mission to insane trollfic Brewdening Love, and that got me to thinking about when I was an active part of the weird cult following it amassed, much akin to that of Emperor Norton. The key pairing in the Brewdening Love Expanded Universe is Brugo, or Brian/Hugo - Brian being an agent of about eight different agencies, depending on the price of tinned cheese in Wichita and the strength of the most recent tropical storm to hit Palau, and Hugo being an alcoholic deadbeat with hidden depths. I wrote recursive fanfiction for this pairing. It was entirely in haiku.
Since you need an account on what used to be TwilightSucks.com to access it, I would now like to present my magnum opus.
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Haikudening Love
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I apologise for the length (despite it being eternally unfinished deadfic), but I'd be interested in your views on my work. Yes, it's pretentious. Yes, it's long. Yes, there are herons everywhere for no adequately-explained reason. I just value your input, and I love how welcome you've made me feel since my return, so I wanted to show you a thing wot I did. =]
Oh, and before anyone asks - spelling sinners SINNARS (block caps optional) was something of a thing in the BLEU fandom. It was a strange place. =] -
Re: Pseudo-OT: Brewdening Love Expanded Universe Haiku by
on 2015-07-03 05:05:00 UTC
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The haiku are very impressive. I'm not really familiar with the matter at hand, so they don't make a lot of sense, but I like them on a lyrical level.
I've heard a lot about Brewdening Love, and I'm looking forward to seeing your mission to it! Will we get to see Wobbles and the Notary in action again? -
Not in BL, we won't. by
on 2015-07-03 08:36:00 UTC
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I'm saving them for something really horrible. And famous. And horrible. =]
This is probably going to be another mission for Doktor Trollenfisch und Gabrielle (and yes, that is how you're supposed to say it) because Brewdening Love is absolutely cast-iron balls-to-the-wall bananas. The BLEU takes a lot of these and runs with it, a noted example being "MY HOUSE WAS FIRE!!" from Chapter 27.
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Ah, okay by
on 2015-07-03 20:06:00 UTC
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I just was wondering, since I know Wobbles is technically from a Twilight fic. But seeing Gabrielle and the Doktor do it will also be hilarious.
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BL's a WhatThe fic. by
on 2015-07-03 22:41:00 UTC
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It's just completely insane, and almost certainly a trollfic, though I don't want to have to second the pair to the Troll Division permanently. For one thing, that means Mortic wins, and we couldn't possibly have that. =]
While I do have some weird stuff lined up for Wobbles's direct backstory, the Notary's getting the lion's share of it first because, well, because she has the farthest to go. =] -
"Of course I win." by
on 2015-07-04 07:58:00 UTC
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"In the long run, I always win.
"Mostly due to everyone else dying of old age."
>M
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"Ve cannot die. Ve can only be beink killed." by
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"Ve are Pokémon, Freiherr Ventvay. Zere are dragons uff time und space among our number who rend zer very fabric uff zer universe in twain, und vhat ist zer most that happens even to zer meanest uff our number? Zey faint. Zey do not die. Zey can be healed free uff charge in ein dedicated facility. Und ve dance zer dance again. Do not threaten us vizz death, mein Freund. You vill find zat ve are very hard to kill."
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A similar kind of immortality... by
on 2015-07-05 05:14:00 UTC
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...unless your home canon happens to be a Nuzlocke. =]
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That's entirely fanon, though? by
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Nuzlocke Pokémon don't actually "die". You just release them into the wild, where it is assumed they die, or shove them in a box forever, where they wonder what they did wrong for ever and ever and oh no i made myself sad.
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Actually, we know Pokémon can die in battle. by
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Because of the various towers, the Pokémon graveyards. There's the Marowack that was killed by Team Rocket, and then various trainers who say intro battle lines such as "My Pokémon died in battle" so your argument is invalid. =]
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*yoinks Marowack the mini-Missingno* (nm) by
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I never said that Pokémon can't be killed. by
on 2015-07-05 13:16:00 UTC
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Just that they aren't killed by the methods of "death" common to Nuzlocke runs, which are releasing and storage. I'm going by a much more literalist take on it, wherein the Trainer is considerably more of an arsehole than is usual in a Pokémon game. Nuzlockes are very much a case of "You Have Failed Me" in my book, with the Trainer punishing weakness by leaving unconscious mons on the ground as food for passing local wildlife.
But yeah, Pokémon can be killed by fighting each other, and by fighting humans. However, it's tricky. Protect is a good example of this - allowing a mon to weather a move, no matter what it is, takes an amazing amount of strength. Plus there's all the ridiculous dex entries about their fortitude, strength, and occasionally murderous tendencies (looking at you, Hypno, Dragalge, and Drifloon). =] -
"Who's threatening?" by
on 2015-07-04 19:34:00 UTC
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"I don't have to do anything to get people to die; they just do it all by themselves.
"Also, I know a couple of people who would be fascinated by the ecology of your world. If you don't die, how come you haven't covered the place miles deep in squirming bodies yet? How do wild Pokemon recover from attacks? I think you may not have been told the whole story, Herr Doktor.
"Also, don't take this for acceptance of your interloper status. Never do that."
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"Interloper?" by
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"Oh, ja, ja, hark at you vizz your interloper. You are havink ein very basic understandink uff ein vorld vhich ist not your own, und you think zat gives you zer right to be askink qwestions zat are as insulting as zey are stupid, qwestions vhich, by zer vay, can be entirely answered vizz zer vords 'carnivorous Pokémon' - trust not zer animé, it ist for zer leetle human children whose sensitive minds are not ready for zer phrase 'nature red in tooth und claw' - und you consider zat askink zese qwestions gives you zer further right to qwestion my intelligence? No, not qwestion. Insult. Ja, you insult my intelligence almost as much as your own.
"Und frankly? Neither mein self NOR mein partner needs zer acceptance, grudging or uzzervise, of ein spoilt leetle untermensch upset zat zer uzzer boys und girls get to play in zeir sandbox. 'Interloper status'. Liebe Arceus. In zer vords of Buffy zer Vampire Slayer, "Oh my God, are you TWELVE?!"."
((I must stress that none of the Doktor's anger is directed at you personally, hS. He just resents the implication that they're not good enough, because a) he knows all about living under a caste system what with being from Pokemon Showdown, and b) that insecurity is the root of his partner and best friend's crippling, near-suicidal depression, which was briefly covered at the end of their last mission and about which I intend to write an interlude sooner or later. Again: none of this is at you. Just Sore-Dick Wentway and his frankly pathetic little tantrum.)) -
Frankly, I'm going to have to retcon this. by
on 2015-07-05 08:15:00 UTC
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Mort has been far too grouchy and aggressive in this whole conversation. Given that his last full-length appearance was passively accepting Agent hS's overwhelming superiority complex, it's perfectly clear he's gone OOC. So - poof! This never happened. His interactions with Trollenfisch are limited to 'wait, what do you mean we have new agents?!' and 'uh, no, I don't want a hug'. ^~
((Okeydey. Though I note that of your two characters who interact with mine, both of them hate mine... ^~))
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((That's not really fair.)) by
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((The Notary hates everyone. =] ))
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((Oh yeah, her too.)) by
on 2015-07-05 08:39:00 UTC
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((So that's three for three. ^_^ I was thinking of Ye Scape-Grace.))
((Though honestly, I think the Notary hates Morgan a lot less than she hates certain other entireties of the Continuity Council...))
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((Ye Scape-Grace is something of a borderline case.)) by
on 2015-07-05 09:11:00 UTC
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((She's just extremely loyal to Iximaz, and more than a little bit paranoid - admirable traits both in a civil servant/spymaster. She's also a bit wary of Baron hS trying to take Critta-Kalthin back through baronial law her mistress doesn't understand or force of arms, but that's probably covered under paranoia. =] ))
((And yeah, Tree doesn't have the same unrelenting loathing for Morgan as she does for almost everyone else in the PPC save one particular agent she both has and hasn't met. She still hates her and tries to push her away, of course, it's her ground state, but it doesn't have the same venom backing it up.)) -
"Of course I win." by
on 2015-07-04 07:58:00 UTC
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"In the long run, I always win.
"Mostly due to everyone else dying of old age."
>M
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Looking for a badfic. by
on 2015-07-03 08:53:00 UTC
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They're so hard to find these days! ^^
No, all right, there's more to it than that. I've had an idea I want to try out, and I need a very specific kind of badfic.
-Bad slash/bad het; either will do.
-Safe for work (which is where I'm at!).
-Short. I mean really short, as in a few hundred words. I'd even take a drabble if you offered it (actually, that would be hilarious and you should).
-In a fandom I know. The best way to find this out is to post the fic and see. ^~
So if you remember running across a badfic that fits, or are interested in tracking one down - please do!
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This any good? by
on 2015-07-03 14:23:00 UTC
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By which I mean not 'is this a good piece of fanfiction?', but 'is this suitable for your vaguely defined
purposesporpoises?'.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2621508/1/Three-AM
If not, the author has several other Star Wars universe (one of the few fandoms I know for certain you are familiar with) which feature slash in the summary.
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Well now. by
on 2015-07-03 14:56:00 UTC
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I was going to say 'no, mpreg will make what I've got in mind much too difficult'.
Then I remembered that a) I'm doing this for the challenge, and b) most sane people would say it was impossible anyway.
So I'll be taking that, thank you. ^_^
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Aaaaand mission plug! by
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Do I win a prize? ^_^
Agents Sandra and Freckles are back, in possibly the PPC's fastest-written mission ever: Three AM
It has a gimmick (it's Sandra and Freckles, that's what I use them for), and I'd be interested to know a) how long it takes to become obvious, and b) how well it works.
And c) what you lot think of the mission, of course!
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I like it, but... by
on 2015-07-08 23:27:00 UTC
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If you were a Pokemon, you'd be grass-type. Pokémon takes an accent; Grass-type takes a capital.
and tuned into the dialogue on the bed. This ought to be "tuned in to".
Padmé also needs an accent.
The intelligence report says it's Obi-Wan and Anakin.
and pulled the Intelligence report back up.
One of these needs to be changed, for the sake of consistency.
I am just as unperceptive as everyone else seems to be. I'm quite impressed by the speed with which you put this out, too.
I suppose that how well it works is informed by how not-obvious it is for so many people.
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I have a phobia of accents. by
on 2015-07-09 09:56:00 UTC
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Nah, I've put them in, thanks. I'm not sure about 'tuned into' - surely that's how 'into' is meant to be used? Intelligence report has now been capitalised as standard. And thank you!
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Well, huh. by
on 2015-07-09 10:36:00 UTC
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"Tuned in" is a phrasal verb, rather than a verb and an adverb, so you can't replace the "in" and the preposition "to" that follows it with the single preposition "into".
"Tuned into" would mean that something is being tuned from one state into another (e.g. the musical instrument was tuned into C from B-flat).
Gah, I don't think I'm explaining this well. Do you see how "tuning" is different from "tuning in"? That's basically the root of it. You follow a verb with a preposition - either "into" in the first case, or "to" in the second - and they mean different things.
It's late, and I'm tired, and I just did half an hour's research to confirm this, so I hope I'm not coming across too rudely. Believe me, I'm impressed by how little there was to nitpick, especially given the speed at which you wrote it.
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Well, then, I'll change it. by
on 2015-07-09 10:57:00 UTC
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Who am I to argue with half an hour's research?
So: thank you. Now I know something new. ^_^
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I'm awake now. by
on 2015-07-09 20:31:00 UTC
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Just to get a coherent reason out there, for the record:
Phrasal verbs are idiomatic, so you can't separate or change the parts of it without losing the meaning of the idiom.
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I call shenanigans! by
on 2015-07-03 21:40:00 UTC
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Clearly you have a time machine. That's the only reasonable explanation for how you got this mission done so quickly. And that, sir, is cheating!
Having said that... *squeee* astromechs! :)
Ahem, right, not sure what happened there... Must've been a glitch or something. I am of course far too mature to squee over ridiculously cute robots, and far too honest to lie about it. I'm glad we've got that cleared up.
As for the questions you asked:
a) about as long as it took for me to read through the mission, then the A/N at the end.
b) given that I didn't notice what you had done until you pointed it out, the only way I can describe how it worked is 'seamlessly'.
c) a good mission.
I liked the choice of disguise (I may have hinted at that earlier) - I don't recall seeing that one used before, which is always nice. I do however think it's a shame that you cheated (again! It's becoming a habit) with the droids' dialogue, even though you did have a good reason for it. I've been rereading a lot of the Expanded Universe recently, and there seems to be a trend in the later books to just give astromech speech normally, as you would for all the creatures that can speak Basic. The earlier books tended to describe the beeps that the mechs gave, letting you figure it out from the description, or give you another character's assumptions, or a reply from Threepio, etc., so that you could work out what had just been said. I think it's an interesting way of dealing with the language issues that came up in the films.
Obviously it wouldn't really have worked here, because with both of them communicating via beeps I think it would've been too difficult to get across all the details/subtleties of what was being said, but I must admit that I still found it slightly disappointing to just read their dialogue as if they hadn't donned their disguises.
Having said that, I never forgot that the characters were disguised - you included a several nice touches that worked as reminders. I particularly liked Freckles' response to being told to 'focus'.
All in all, nicely done.
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Be-boop tweedle bip! by
on 2015-07-04 06:47:00 UTC
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Ahem. Yeah, I don't think that would've worked when the only two characters both speak in bleeps. ^^ The first place I remember running across 'Artoo speaks in tongues' was in one of the Aaron Allston NJO books, where it was in a scene with Artoo as the third-person viewpoint character (which led to a lot of thinking about how easily manipulated Threepio is, as I recall); I think in that specific case it was okay, though it was probably italicised too...
Anyway, it still can't be as bad as the reverse: "Grrrr wrrowl raaargh!" said Chewbacca. Courtship of Princess Leia, how I despise that editorial decision. ^^
Anyway: thank you! Sorry for being slightly disappointing. Someday I may try an astromech/protocol droid pair to allow the use of bleeps (in fact, if you have another short SW slash that isn't by the same person, I'll consider doing it right away...).
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Re: Aaaaand mission plug! by
on 2015-07-03 20:39:00 UTC
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As far as the mission itself goes, my honest-to-God favorite part was the bit at the end where they discuss whether or not they would have reacted as strongly to it if it had been about different characters. I think that's an interesting issue for PPC agents in general - how objective can you be when you're dealing with badfic about someone you care for? How objective should you be? And what about when it's not just a character you admire, but someone who, from your perspective, is a real person? Definitely an entry for the list of "themes I want to explore at some point."
On the gimmick: I think it only worked because of how short the mission was, and because there weren't really any action scenes (meaning "scenes where the agents take direct actions," not specifically fight scenes). The characters felt a little like talking heads at times, and it bordered on being more of an MST than a mission.
I think part of the reason I didn't catch on, by the way, is that you had a pair of female characters and a pair of male characters. In that situation, you actually need to avoid overusing pronouns when you're describing things, lest you run into the Pronoun Problem. This is also why I cheated and specifically made a mixed-gender agent pair.
As far as wider implications go, I can accept that gender might not be necessary as a grammatical construct, but I think it's still an integral part of a lot of people's identities. We don't need it for our language to make sense, we need it because it's part of expressing who we are. Not saying you're denying that, but it's just my feelings on the issue. -
Thank you! by
on 2015-07-04 06:41:00 UTC
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Re: the gimmick - there were always going to be factors that aided it, and I admit I skewed the mission heavily to keep them in place. But even so! It's not so much 'she' I missed as 'her' - Sandra could never turn her head, for instance (though, as I said somewhere, in actual usage you'd just see 'their' all over the place).
As to gender: I accept that, since gender exists, people can, do, and should identify by way of it. But... well, perhaps I lack an understanding of the subject. But I find it difficult to come up with an attribute which needs to be called 'male' (or 'female', for that matter) without it being a) sexist (er, genderist?), b) sexual (which of course isn't gender), or c) a societal negative which would be better done away with (eg, 'men tend to be promoted further than women'). But that maybe reflects a lack of imagination on my part?
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Amazing by
on 2015-07-03 19:48:00 UTC
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I didn't spot a thing. Which probably means that it works very well.
(Sorry, my brain is just melting in the current heat wave. I cannot think of anything more to say.)
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Bravo, hS. Bravo! by
on 2015-07-03 17:28:00 UTC
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Great work on the mission. I will admit, I missed the gimmick entirely until the note at the end - granted, it may have been because I was trying to hard to find said gimmick and Failed A Spot Check, hard. I enjoyed reading this, and I especially liked Elrond's grading methods!
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*applause* by
on 2015-07-03 17:02:00 UTC
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I must admit, I did not even notice the gimmick until the ending author's note. Shows you how perspective I am. ^^; But I liked it; that was certainly interesting.
Also, "Worse: the hobbits got Elrond to grade the quiz." Sandra's lights flickered at the memory. "The only answer deemed acceptable was 'IT ISN'T' in all caps, though I think one of us got extra credit for adding a hundred-word rant in Sindarin about the subject."
This had me rolling.
Overall, excellent work! I enjoyed it immensely :) And now you put me to shame, writing a mission in a few hours like that. I gotta step up my game! ^_~
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Happy Independence Day, American PPCers! by
on 2015-07-04 15:03:00 UTC
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As the title says! Enjoy your fireworks and bald eagles, guys!
And while I'm at it, here's a fun piece of trivia I found on Tumblr: Steve Rogers, a.k.a. Captain America, was born on Thursday, July 4, 1918. Coincidence? Doubt it... -
Yay! Fireworks! by
on 2015-07-05 04:45:00 UTC
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I love explosions! Hey, is MISTER TORGUE hiring?
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Happy America Day! by
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Have an earwormy song!
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Hooray! by
on 2015-07-05 00:03:00 UTC
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I totally meant to write a fanfic for Steve's birthday arrghI mean, please enjoy your fireworks SAFELY. Holidays shouldn't include people losing digits or getting burned, OK? OK.
With that being said. YAY! We're actually somewhat awesome despite what the news implies! (I compare our country to a well-meaning but kind of dumb teenager.) -
Happy Fourth! (nm) by
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Congratulations! by
on 2015-07-04 22:31:00 UTC
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Americans celebrate Independence Day because it was when they were rid of the British.
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I'm not an American by
on 2015-07-04 18:49:00 UTC
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But I will still down a glass of whisky cream to your health! Have my fireworks, America! :D
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Might've had to fight to get free of clingy Mum England... by
on 2015-07-04 17:47:00 UTC
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But I think we're on good terms with her now that we're grown. :)
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Good times! by
on 2015-07-04 16:28:00 UTC
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Though, as a pedantic historian, I feel I should point out the founders actually signed the thing on the second of July. It frustrated John Adams to no end when people started celebrating on the fourth.
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Signatures... by
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Other pedantic historian here!
No, the Declaration of Independence was not signed on July the second. It was ratified by Congress on July 4th, and thereafter accounts differ: either delegates present at the time signed it on that date, and others signed on the second of August; or one or none signed in July, and the official signed copy was ordered (maybe) in late July and signed in August.
July the second was when the states voted for independence - that is why Adams thought that it should become the national holiday.
(See Wikipedia for sources; I can't check book sources myself, and it's possible Wikipedia is completely wrong, though I find it's usually reliable for historical events.) -
Happy independence day, Yanks. by
on 2015-07-04 15:11:00 UTC
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It's just a regular day here.
(Israel's independence day is 5 Iyar, which, thanks to the Jewish calender being a lunar one, 'moves around' — this year it was April 23rd.)
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Accents in text by
on 2015-07-04 18:47:00 UTC
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So in my upcoming mission, I've issued a challenge to myself in the form of one of my characters. He lived near New Orleans (albeit the version in a very weird universe) and he has a Cajun accent.
Any tips on how to write the accent? Alternatively, anything to watch other than The Princess and the Frog to get an idea of what the accent sounds like? -
You don't necessarily have to write the accent at all. by
on 2015-07-05 15:46:00 UTC
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I'm assuming you're not just writing the character so you'll have the challenge of a phonetic accent, correct?
Speaking from experience in the POTC fandom...phonetic accents are very, very hard to do well. I see it all the time, even in otherwise well-written fics, where poor Jack Sparrow ends up sounding like anything from street teenager to Southern to Scottish. Yes, Scottish.
On that occasion, Potcsues had some mightily helpful advice for prospective accent-writers:
Hasunoutena: Is dialogue always written like that in PotC fics? Because after I read the snippets of that fic, I can't get the Scottish accent out of my head. I'm sure that wasn't the intention.
Potcsues: Well, not always.
Some people just don't feel like bothering with anyone having an accent at all and get caught up in making everyone speak "proper" English. Unfortunately, to make someone speak proper English one needs to have paid attention in an English class at least a few times in the course of their lifetime, so that never turns out well either.
It's very rare that someone just alludes to an accent, like people who know what the **** they're doing do when writing accents in fiction.
As for me, I wouldn't say that phonetic accents can't ever be written well under any circumstances, but I wouldn't advise anyone to try it without a strong background in linguistics or at least a few years listening to the accent on a regular basis. In addition to alluding to an accent, what will help distinguish your character's speech will be the word choices and colloquial expressions that he uses, which is usually more than enough for the readers to get the idea.
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My advice, as someone who rights this sort of charrie: by
on 2015-07-04 22:54:00 UTC
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Take refuge in audacity. Make this character the embodiment of all the positive stereotypes (e.g. always friendly, boisterously happy, likes loud and silly traditional drinking songs) and then make their accent completely ridiculous. If you're going to be stereotypical, and with a phoneticised accent you are whatever you try to do (consider any foreign Bond villain or the Dobermann from Up), the least you can do is be nice. =]
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Take it from someone who has tried it by
on 2015-07-04 19:45:00 UTC
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The Cajun Accent is hard to replicate without sounding offensive, especially if you have not heard it properly. Living in Louisiana, I have heard it, but in order to be most helpful I would like to know a little bit more. You say near New Orleans, do you mean like a suburb of New Orleans? Do you mean Baton Rouge? Or do you mean Ascension Parish (Deep Bayou)? Or do you Atchafalaya Basin (Swamp People from History Channel)? There are slight differences in all of those accents, and all can be considered Cajun and near New Orleans.
But for general advice I recommend three things. First Diction should be your first choice, a phonetic Cajun accent runs the risk of becoming in comprehensible. Second, and this is in most cases going to be a must, throw in a smattering of French. Things like 'mon ami' or 'laissez les bon temps rouler' (Let the good times role) (Useful in certain circumstances), 'cher/cheri' is another one. And finally as a good generic guide in my opinion, look at Gambit from X-Men (Comics or Original 1990's Cartoon). He works as a pretty good template. -
I have the same problem by
on 2015-07-04 18:53:00 UTC
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Usually with Irish English and Cockney accent...
Still, have all my help, dude:
Wikipedia article on Cajun English
General accent writing tips
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New interlude! by
on 2015-07-05 00:38:00 UTC
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Presenting "Trust", in which Rina and the Guardsman meet for the first time, and then some feels happen.
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D'awwww. ^_^ (nm) by
on 2015-07-06 14:54:00 UTC
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Probably a stupid question, but... by
on 2015-07-05 14:16:00 UTC
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Why not use a Chameleon Arch to turn back to human? (As in Human Nature/Family of Blood.) Unlike the disguise generator, it seems to be permanent (or for at least as long as a human lifetime anyway) as long as you don't open the watch.
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So, er, I just reread it, and... by
on 2015-07-05 15:45:00 UTC
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...I'm not seeing any mention of the Chameleon Arch. Could have sworn it was there...maybe it's in something else, or got cut? Anyway, Iximaz can confirm or deny what I said below.
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It's more or less permanent, yes... by
on 2015-07-05 15:34:00 UTC
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But, as I think may have actually been said in the interlude, it would mean she'd forget everything. She wouldn't be Rina Dives the Time Lord, and she likely wouldn't be Rina Dives the human either, since the Time Lord bit is a disguise that went wrong--she didn't become a different person, she just changed species. So using the Chameleon Arch wouldn't help with anything except forgetting everything, which she doesn't want to do.
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Re: Chameleon Arch by
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Yes, it was mentioned in a previous interlude ("Fate Amenable to Change") that she didn't want to use the Chameleon Arch because it would cause her to forget everything and replace her memories with false ones.
Plus, there would be weird questions like "Hey, aren't you that agent who got turned into a Time Lord?" which would jeopardize her Cham Arch disguise pretty fast. She'd want to know who she was before the transformation and open the watch. -
Yeah... not worth it. by
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At least with Time Lord regeneration you keep your old memories to go with your new ones and new personality. Ditching your memories would be worse than regenerating even if you did keep your personality.
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OK, thanks. by
on 2015-07-06 08:00:00 UTC
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Aww, that's adorable! by
on 2015-07-05 02:17:00 UTC
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And Terabyte is about thirteen kinds of funny.
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Isn't it just? by
on 2015-07-05 18:31:00 UTC
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I'm happy to see positive response for TB. I was afraid it would've been overshadowed by the Guardsman or Naya.
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Vuelvo. by
on 2015-07-05 18:09:00 UTC
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Hey, guys! I'm back. My reading is going well; I'm about halfway through my first book, The Case for a Creator, and I'm already learning all sorts of neat-o stuff. I've got several others lined up, including works from the evolutionary viewpoint. I'm also going to read an apologetic book or two and defenses of the Scriptures, so that'll be fun.
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Reading is good! =] by
on 2015-07-05 23:33:00 UTC
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However, I'm a little concerned by your reading defences of Biblical history. It seems like you're only doing this so you can write slightly better arguments against divine creation/intelligent design/whatever buzzword creationists come up with to peddle their religious beliefs in science classes. What I'd say you should be doing is coming into this with an open mind wrt evidence-based scientific inquiry, rather than simply to try and shore up the tenets of your faith.
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Another way of saying this... by
on 2015-07-06 01:14:00 UTC
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Don't read a book that tells you how to argue a case. Find the evidence, if it exists, and go on from there. I personally think saying what your method(s) is is also important, but that's just me and my desire for clarity in all things philosophical.
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I wrote out a full reply. by
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But everything changed when the derpy internet attacked...
*sigh* In other words, I tried to post an entry briefly describing the books I was reading, and how they aren't all on how to argue, but that was lost. Basically, the one I'm reading now deals fully in evidence for a Creator, the one I'm reading next says it will attempt to prove Christianity beyond a reasonable doubt, and after that I have stuff by C.S. Lewis, a book on general debating strategy, and the works of various evolutionists.
To Scapegrace: I'm reading The Canon of the Scripture last, and mostly because SeaTurtle inquired about the reliability of the Bible, making me realize that I am woefully under prepared for that. Also, in regards to open mindedness... Well, I've believed in Christianity all of my life, and simply putting that aside will be massively difficult. However, I will look at evidence (and the lack thereof) as objectively as I can.
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Oh, the uranithropic principle! by
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Are you more inclined towards the Weak Uranithropic Principle - which says simply that we wouldn't see uranium in the universe if the universe couldn't contain uranium - or the Strong Uranithropic Principle, which says that we see uranium because the universe was specifically made to contain uranium?
(That's the flaw with the anthropic principle, by the way - it tries to demonstrate life is special by assuming life is special. ^_^)
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Neither. by
on 2015-07-06 21:46:00 UTC
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I like the one that talks about how the universe is so precisely balanced for life that if any aspects were shifted hardly at all, we could not exist.
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It's backwards. by
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Life fits the universe, not the other way around, since the universe was here before life was.
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Well, I think the point of the anthropic principle... by
on 2015-07-07 00:32:00 UTC
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... Is more that, if the universe couldn't contain life, no one would care about it, because we wouldn't be here. Thus, "if any aspects were shifted hardly at all", we wouldn't be able to make that observation, which makes this reflection somewhat irrelevant.
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This is true. by
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It's actually hard to come up with any conceivable experiment to look for the existence of universes that don't interact with ours in any way... heck, we have a hard enough time with the 'cold, dark matter' which apparently constitutes up to 96% of our own universe.
But that 'any aspects shifted'/'sustain life by chance' idea is a little bit wrong. Yes, if the fundamental constants of the universe were different, we wouldn't see this universe... but that's like saying '2+3=5! If either 2 or 3 was changed, they wouldn't be able to equal 5 any more!'
In fact, it's a lot like that. There are two big holes in the idea:
1/ What makes 5 so special? If 3 turned into 4, you wouldn't make 5 - but you'd make 6, and that 6 would no doubt come up with a Weak Sixthropic Principle which claims that the universe was fine-tuned to make 6. The life we have now (or even the uranium we have now - why're we focussing on life when there's far more of other stuff? If the universe is balanced for anything, it's hydrogen and dark matter!) is hardly the only setup that an infinite number of universes could possible contain. Bind electrons more tightly to their atoms, and you could create life based on covalent bonds between metals.
2/ 2+3=5... but so does 1+4. You can 'compensate' for shifting one constant by shifting another to match. There's a lot more options for 'universe containing life' than you might think.
3/ Did I say two? I meant three. ^_^ The third is error bars. I rounded the actual values of 2.10526, 3.33983, and 5.44509 to get that lovely neat 2+3=5. Any values that round to 5 would've worked. Similarly, the 'fine tuning' of the universe is rather more coarse than you might imagine - the figures could vary by a long way and still give substantially the same universe.
There's a lovely example of this in one of the Science of Discworld books... actually, I think it's in three of the four, they enjoyed it so much! For your reading pleasure, I'll now spend twenty minutes copying it out from Google Books:
'The story of the carbon resonance can be found in many science books, because it creates a powerful impression of hidden order in the universe, and it seems to explain so much. [...]
'Here's how the story goes. Carbon [which living cells are based on] is created in red giant stars by a rather delicate process of nuclear synthesis, called the triple-alpha process. This involves the fusion of three helium nuclei. [...]
'All very well, but the odds of such a triple collision occuring inside a star are very small. Collisions of two helium nuclei are much more common, though still relatively rare. It is extremely rare for a third helium nucleus to crash into two that are just colliding. [...] This means that the synthesis of carbon has to take place in a series of steps rather than all at once, and the obvious way is for two helium nuclei to fuse, and then for a third helium nucleus to fuse with the result.
'The first step is easy, and the resulting nucleus has four protons and four neutrons: this is one form of the element beryllium. However, the lifetime of this particular form of beryllium is 10^-16 seconds, which gives that third helium nucleus a very small target to aim at. The change of hitting this target is incredibly small, and it turns out that the universe hasn't existed long enough for even a tiny fraction of its carbon to have been made in this way. So triple collisions are out, and carbon remains a puzzle.
'Unless... there is a loophole in the argument. And indeed there is. The fusion of beryllium and helium, leading to carbon, would occur much more rapidly, yielding a lot more carbon in a much shorter time, if the energy of carbon just happened to be close to the combined energies of beryllium and helium. This kind of near-equality of energies is called a resonance. In the 1950s Fred Hoyle insisted that carbon has to come from somewhere, and predicted that there must therefore exist a resonant state of the carbon atom. It had to have a very specific energy, which he calculated must be about 7.6 MeV.
'Within a decade, it was discovered that there is a state with energy 7.6549 MeV. Unfortunately, it turns out that the combined energies of beryllium and helium are about 4 per cent higher than this. In nuclear physics, that's a huge error.
'Oops.
'Ah, but miraculously, that apparent discrepancy is just what we want. Why? Because the additional energy imparted by the temperature found in a red giant star is exactly what's needed to change the combined energy of beryllium and helium nuclei by that missing 4 per cent.
'Wow.
'It's a wonderful story, and it rightly earned Hoyle huge numbers of scientific brownie points. And it makes our existence look rather delicate. If the fundamental constants of the universe are changed, then so is that vital 7.6549. So it is tempting to conclude that our universe's constants are fine-tuned for carbon, making it very special indeed. And it is equally tempting to conclude that the reason for that fine-tuning is to ensure that complex life turns up. Hoyle didn't do that, but many other scientists have given into these temptations.
'Sounds good: what's wrong? [...] Another physicist, Craig Hogan, has put his finger on one of the weak points. The argument treats the temperature of the red giant and that 4 per cent discrepancy in energy levels as if they were independent. That is, it assumes that you can change the fundamental constants of physics without changing the way a red giant works. However, that's obvious nonsense. Hogan points out that 'the structure of stars includes a built-in thermostat that automatically adjusts the temperature to just the value needed to make the reaction go at the correct rate'. It's rather like being amazed that the temperature in a fire is just right to burn wood, when in fact that temperature is caused by the chemical reaction that burns the wood...'
When they revisit it in a later book, they talk about how much variance you can have in the figures before stars become impossible. From memory, the conclusion was that roughly 25% of possible universes obtained from varying the fundamental constants would look substantially like ours.
So yeah: even if there has only ever been one universe, created by a completely random process, with no tuning of any kind... you've still got around one chance in four that we'd turn up to marvel at how lucky we are. ;)
hS
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Personally, I prefer the Very Strong Anthropic Principle... (nm) by
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But that one's depressing now. :( by
on 2015-07-06 12:53:00 UTC
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Assuming you mean the one 'which holds that the entire Purpose of the Universe is to make possible a being that will live in England, an island off the coast of France, and spend his time writing Discworld novels'.
Which means the purpose of the universe is now void.
... which reminds me of something I was going to do, actually. Hrm.
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I didn't think of that angle :( by
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But the Discworld novels themselves still exist, so I think that's something. The universe's purpose isn't void, it's just been fulfilled, and now we get to enjoy the results.
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NERDY NUMMIES Video by
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I like this woman's show; she makes all sorts of geeky foodstuffs. Here, she's making something Captain America-themed.
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That's a cool video series. by
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I was particularly impressed by her castle.
Accidentally left youtube auto-playing, and when I came back to my computer it had moved on to a similar series. I was very surprised to see Maleficent on my screen.
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You're still going to make it to the Gathering tomorrow?
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I'm BAAAAAAAACK! by
on 2015-07-06 19:43:00 UTC
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*yawn* Greetings, ladies and mentlegen! *cough, cough* Yeesh, it's dusty in here! I'm sure you're wondering where I've been *or at least those of you who still remember I exist*. Well, it's kind of a long story, but bottom line: My laptop's hard drive broke and it took two months to fix. Not the fixing itself, that took about two weeks. It took two months to find a good client to fix her and get the funding needed to do so. But I'm back now and that's the most important thing!
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Have a welcome-back plover! (nm) by
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Hello! by
on 2015-07-07 03:04:00 UTC
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Have some German Chocolate and some Bleepka.
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Welcome back to the PPC! by
on 2015-07-07 01:00:00 UTC
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Have a guaranteed starter Pokémon!
Iiiiiiiiiit's Noivern!
And a starting item!
Fire Mind from The Binding Of Isaac: Rebirth!
The synergy here is just plain good. Fire Mind is like King's Rock, but arguably better - every attack without a chance to Burn the opponent has a 10% chance to Burn the opponent. This makes its Infiltrator ability shine all the more, as it has the chance to inflict major statuses through Substitutes whatever move it takes. Given how easily it can be walled, it's useful for an OU mon to have. =] -
Return-bie! Oh, Frabjous Day! Callooh! Callay! by
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Welcome!
I'm not sure if we've met, but welcome back anyway! :D
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Hi! by
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I don't think we met; I'm Alleb! I'm fairly new-- I arrived back in May, I think. Have a flying carpet, courtesy of the Disney fandom, and welcome back!
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Welcome back! by
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I don't know where you're finding dust, since we keep the Board reasonably clean. Regardless, it's lovely to re-meet you, and here's a box of chocolate-chip granola bars!
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Welcome back by
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Have an animate origami frog. Imbued with a charm against laptop failure.
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Welcome back! *tosses Spikes* by
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Sorry to hear about your laptop, again. I hope everything's better where you're at! We've all been busy as well with our own things too, don't worry...
Anyway, as a welcome back present, have a scientifically accurate miniaturized Quetzalcoatlus! Warning: Do NOT keep it in the vicinity of your other housepets. -
Welcome (back) to Creation, here's your shovel. by
on 2015-07-06 19:53:00 UTC
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Have a +5 vorpal shovel! It automatically decapitates on a critical hit.
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Hey! Anyone remember A Series of Unfortunate Events? by
on 2015-07-07 16:54:00 UTC
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Well, Netflix recently acquired the rights to adapt the books into a original TV series. Then, a few days ago someone (who apparently isn't affiliated with Netflix) released this trailer on Youtube (just a warning, there is a bit freaky imagery of the creepy crawling variety; if that's not you cup up tea, I'd advise steering clear).
Just look at that! That's seriously cool, especially if it's really entirely fan-made.
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This will be fantastic. (nm) by
on 2015-07-11 05:49:00 UTC
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I love those books! by
on 2015-07-08 05:31:00 UTC
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I cried so hard when they ended. I need to watch that trailer, and I can't wait for the series!
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I'm pretty pumped by
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I was a big fan of the book series and was super excited when Netflix announced plans to make a TV series.
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Vaguely. Hope it turns out well for the fans. (nm) by
on 2015-07-07 19:22:00 UTC
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Oh yeah... by
on 2015-07-07 18:51:00 UTC
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I read those a while back. The TV series should be interesting.
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Oh my gosh yes! by
on 2015-07-07 17:41:00 UTC
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And oooh, this is exciting! I'll have to reread those books, I liked them quite a bit when I was a kid. :D
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I know! by
on 2015-07-07 18:54:00 UTC
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This should be fun! The Series hasn't gotten enough attention since it ended, I don't think. I might just reread them myself. I could definitely use the refresher.
Oh! And according to the Wikipedia page, there's also a more recent young adult series called All the Wrong Questions. It is apparently set in the same universe but focuses on the narrator as a kid. That, I think, is going on to my book list right after ASoUE.
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On agent species by
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So. I know people don't like how I come up with ideas that don't have a purpose, but my brain runs on autopilot sometimes.
The end result of such random idea generation: the possibility of a Shroob agent.
For those not in the know, Shroobs are an Always Chaotic Evil race of mushroom aliens from Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time. They invade the Mushroom World, drain the life force of its inhabitants, and are generally bastard aliens. At first, you can't understand their language, but there's one phrase that's constantly repeated. You eventually learn that the word means "destroy."
I reached the conclusion that they're basically mushroom-shaped Daleks.
Now, for the sixty-four-thousand-dollar question: Are Iximaz, Darkotas and I correct in thinking that the Shroobs are impossible to make PPC agents out of? It's not because of power level; it's because they're evil. -
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I say "yes" to both the "mushroom-shaped Daleks" comment and your questions. The Shroobs are simply too inherently evil (and parasitic) to be reformed in any capacity.
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Evil is kind of relative is it not? by
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Even if it is not, I do not necessarily see that as a barrier, it just might require some work to explain why a Shroob would want to be a PPC agent. And as far as I know there are also Dalek members of the PPC. So I see no reason why they would be categorically barred. As I said, it might take some work for it to make sense, but I see no reason why it would be impossible to do so. Merely improbable.
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The thing about Shroobs is... by
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They're Omnicidal Maniacs, each and every one. And as for the Daleks, they've been given the Human Factor so that they have restraint. There is no such means of controlling a Shroob's bloodlust. Other than maybe having a partner that can browbeat them into submission, and even then, the Shroob would still be a ticking time bomb that's just pointed at the enemy.
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That still does not mean its impossible by
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Just merely difficult. I was going to go with a Pure Blood True Sith Agent. Which is not a whole lot better, I just did not like the way I wrote the character so for now I have scrapped it. Hard yes, impossible, I do not think so.
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You missed the point. by
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Shroobs are inherently evil. Every single one. No exceptions.
To be a Shroob is to be a vicious, omnicidal conqueror. You can't redeem them; they are hostile savages by nature. They literally drain the life force from their victims to fuel their ships. They transform the denizens of the Mushroom World into monsters.
Shroobs don't know friendship, or compassion, or happiness. They have one law, one rule, one ideology. One goal.
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I did not miss the point by
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I just do not think it is that absolute. Even excluding the human factor there have been Daleks that ended up being more than Daleks. Like Rusty or Dalek Sec (how successful that was is up for debate) I think it is possible to do. It would just be very difficult, but in writing, I do not believe anything is truly impossible.
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Yes, but those Daleks were all modified in some way. by
on 2015-07-08 03:40:00 UTC
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None of them were 'pure' Dalek.
And, um, I'd have a very, very hard time swallowing a Pureblood Sith agent, and I really doubt I'd ever clear one in a Permission request. I'm sorry, but there's just no way that would work.
As Dakotas would like me to pass on, "Making an agent of certain races or proclivities (Shroobs, Sith, Burning Legion demons, what-have-you) isn't merely "hard", it's straight-up impossible. Going with the example of Shroobs: they have zero redeeming qualities. They kill, destroy, and consume. That's it. A Shroob agent would kill, destroy, and consume. If you change things to make it more "agent-friendly" (making it NOT want to kill, consume, or destroy), it simply wouldn't be a Shroob. It, quite honestly, would be a Sue/Stu in the body of a Shroob. Keeping it on a leash or otherwise subservient? No. Not going to work, sorry. The second anything changes, it WILL try to kill, destroy, and consume. It simply wouldn't be able to carry out a mission according to procedure."
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Two words: 'badfic character'. by
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Don't we have an intelligent, speaking Creeper wandering around? Y'know, the creatures whose sole purpose is to explode and kill you?
It really comes down to definitions. If you define Shroob as 'looks like a Shroob and was claimed to be one', you have no problems. If you define it as 'kills, destroys, and consumes, and that's it', then of course you can't make an agent out of them - you've just defined them to be impossible!
But GLaDOS is incapable of thinking of anything but herself, yet Evie is a viable agent. Maglor is incapable of not being obsessed with the Silmarils, yet Dafydd somehow works. The history of the PPC is full of characters who ought to be psychotically evil - we have an illithid! - but due to various reasons... aren't.
hS
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As Usual, Hs is Right. by
on 2015-07-09 07:24:00 UTC
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Back when I got permission, the badfic that I grabbed as first mission* material was about the Grox, the homicidal, xenophobic, cyborg, galaxy-take-over-ing aliens that serve as Spore's antagonists. And there was at least one request for one of them to be recruited, because badfic can mess with characters enough that they can shake the Always Chaotic Evil nature of their species.
Either that, or half the Agents we've got are multidimensional Drizzt wannabes.
*I swear, I'm still writing that thing. It'll come, eventually. It's only been, what, a year and a half now? -
Of course you are also more in the know than I am by
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So if you say it is not possible, then that seems clear it is not. From a theoretical stand point, I see no reason why it is truly impossible. Of course that comes from the idea, that I think when you are writing nothing is impossible. Whether or not it will work, is a different question all together.
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There were various reasons I scrapped that idea by
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I still do not think it would be impossible, merely impracticable. If someone were familiar enough, I think it could theoretically be done.
For the Sith example I was playing around with, this is what I came up with. Sith seek power, Sues appear to have universe altering abilities, this kind of power would be incredibly appealing to a Sith. Further as to working with others, if the partner were to be framed as a tool or slave even, then the Sith would be willing to work with them, provided it furthered the Sith's interest, acquiring the power of the Sues. Then you have a partner agent that can contend with the physical attributes for when the Sith goes off to, well be a Sith, so that he can be redirected. Of course this is entirely academic since I scrapped that entire pairing, because I frankly did not enjoy writing it.
The bottom line is, I think it is possible, just it would take a very intricate knowledge of at least one continuum and possibly another. I was thinking something along the lines of A Sidonian Blood Nematode. Of course it would require work to be a viable method, and it would become something different. -
That was way bigger than I meant it to be... (nm) by
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Someone called Éowine and Steormægþ a little flat... by
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...so I was thinking doing a short series (no more than four more missions) to flesh them out some.
So, does anyone know where I can find a fic where bad writing and/or Suethor ignorance makes a Suvian, character replacement, or author wraith hard on a horse? I've ordered Horses for Dummies from the library to ensure that Éowine knows what he's talking about. -
Perhaps try... by
on 2015-07-09 21:16:00 UTC
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Fanfic for Black Beauty, The Black Stallion, and/or just about anything by Marguerite Henry, including but not limited to Misty of Chincoteague and King of the Wind. All good horse books that I read in my youth, and quick reads for an adult, if you want to expand your horizons.
There's also the Saddle Club series, I guess, but I think I read all of maybe two of those? I dunno. Point being, I can't vouch for the quality of the series as a whole.
I feel like I'm forgetting something... I know I read books with unicorns in them, for one thing, but I can't recall any titles at the moment. Bah. I'll let you know if my memory jogs itself.
Oh, also, I have a couple good reference books about horse breeds to hand, and I've done some reading about coat-color genetics, should that come up.
I was just one of those kids who loved horses. Never had the money for actual riding lessons, though.
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Well, Ranger's Apprentice is full of horse abuse. by
on 2015-07-08 15:34:00 UTC
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But I don't know if that's one of your fandoms. I'm guessing LotR would be a good place to start, in that case. I'll keep my eye out for something.
By the way, I've been riding horses since I was little, so if you want to know something the book might not have made clear/didn't explain, just shoot me a message. (Only as long as it's not about breeds, I'm horrible with breeds. Riding and care is my thing.) -
I don't know RA. by
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But yes, please do keep your eyes open. I'll be looking too.
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Join the Legion, Tawaki. by
on 2015-07-08 23:19:00 UTC
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Cowrites with Iximaz are the True Faith, to the point where the PPC will likely have an Ix-number for its members by the time she retires. =]
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OT: Speaking of Scapegrace: by
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Gathering still on for tomorrow?
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YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES. by
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I made a sign!
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Excellent. by
on 2015-07-10 13:13:00 UTC
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I see Canterbury West has only one exit, so we'll see you there.
(So odds are the person with the sign will be arriving last. Sounds like PPC planning to me! 's why I have the t-shirt. ^_^)
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Speaking of which... by
on 2015-07-10 15:59:00 UTC
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I'm still up for it, although my travel plans have changed somewhat.
Instead of starting from my flat, I will now be starting from an undisclosed location, and various other travel arrangements will make it super-convenient for me to catch a much earlier train than I need to (while simultaneously making it slightly irritating to get the train that will get me there on time). I'll probably be catching a train that will get me to Canterbury around 1. Don't feel any need to alter your plans - I'll just bring a book with me.
So yeah, pretty good odds I'll be the first to arrive.
Do we have an end-time in mind? Looking at the train timetables I'll be looking to catch a train back at 18:45 or 19:40 - any later than that and I'm really pushing my luck asking for a lift for the final leg of the journey.
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There is SO MUCH speaking of going on! by
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Given that my plan is 'get there when the car gets us there', there's no chance of my altering it.
End-time... about 6-6:30 is probably as good a time as any. I guess most things will be closed by then, and it gives you plenty of time to get back to your train.
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Suits me. by
on 2015-07-11 00:17:00 UTC
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After you've all gone, I will be drinking myself into an early grave to forget the series of colossal mistakes and squandered opportunities my alleged life has become, so, yeah. Don't worry about missing your trains/cars/Park-and-Ride buses. =]
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I've gone on and on about Monster Musume, right? by
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The anime is streaming on Crunchyroll!
ALL OF MY EXCITEMENT IN EVERY SINGLE MULTIVERSE
... but I can't watch it yet because I don't have a premium account. I have such a sad. The anime is airing right now, but I can't fork over the money to watch it. Whyyyy ;_; -
Okay, Voyd, Voyd... take a deep breath... by
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Contain... the calamity... that is your mammaries.
Oh, who am I kidding, MONSTER MUSUME BABY!!!
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You misspelled Polt. by
on 2015-07-09 01:44:00 UTC
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(this is totally going to turn into a "best pony"-style debate, isn't it)
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You're both misspelling Cerea by
on 2015-07-09 07:52:00 UTC
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(And maybe? Depends how many people read it.)
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Gentlemen, you both need to use spellcheck... by
on 2015-07-09 09:21:00 UTC
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(Who knows. Although I do like Polt, Zombina is still #1~!)
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Here. by
on 2015-07-08 18:55:00 UTC
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If you haven't watched it yet, Attack On Titan isn't half bad: zero fanservice, lots of action, clean animation style, and three dimensional maneuver gear. Some say it's overhyped but I don't care.
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Are we doing Anime recommendations now? by
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I would recommend Knights of Sidonia (of course the US Distributor is Netflix so you need an account). But I think something that is more in line with what I understand about Monster Musume (which admittedly is very little) is Ah! My Goddess.
There is really nothing not to like about Ah! My Goddess. Clean and crisp animation, relatable characters, good tone (moments of both lighthearted frivolity and darker themes, always well mixed.), feats of engineering, and just enough action to vary things up. So I would recommend that.
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Paging all authors with Doctor Who-familiar agents by
on 2015-07-09 06:32:00 UTC
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I apologize for the double post, but there was no other thread to put this on.
So I found a fic. It's an utterly stupid crossover between Doctor Who and Mario, that's only about 500 words in length.
It features Davros and the Daleks, all of whom have been replaced.
There are only four Doctor Who experts currently active in the PPC; unfortunately, all are Time Lords who probably wouldn't mix well with Daleks.
Rina has her own problems, I have plans with the Librarian, I just did a cowrite with Dawn not too long ago (no Reader), and I think we can all agree that the Notary would be a nightmare for all parties involved.
I guess technically there's Morgan, since hS is still active, but... honestly? I'm kinda scared of working with the real oldbies. I don't know if my writing style (fluffy, lighthearted and generally happy) would mesh with that of, for instance, hS.
I'd love to work with Fish Custard, because the Fisherman is one of my favorite PPC characters, but alas, he seems to have faded into oblivion.
Does anyone else have Action agents familiar with Doctor Who, Time Lord or not? It's a short fic, but I'm not an expert in the field.
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*pops out from time portal* Boo! by
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I'm still around here and there - I'm just not on the Board all the time.
If it's not too late, I'd love to lend a hand with killing this thing. Equally if you've already planned it out, that's cool too! -
Just realised that I fail at reading... by
on 2015-07-14 01:14:00 UTC
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Seen that you've already posted the mission further up. I like it, well done! ^__^
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Thanks a lot! by
on 2015-07-14 03:37:00 UTC
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Would you be so kind as to share your email address? I'd love to work with you in the future.
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Gladly! by
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richardjenkins28 AT gmail DOT com
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Pffft, thanks! by
on 2015-07-14 03:35:00 UTC
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But yeah, Season 9, much excite? :D
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Much excite, very time travel, so transcendental. by
on 2015-07-20 01:28:00 UTC
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In other words: YES! :D :D
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In the beginning or end of the pending mission... by
on 2015-07-09 17:16:00 UTC
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...I was planning to introduce Agent Alpha, a resurrected canonical from The Evil of the Daleks. Alpha already had the Human Factor in canon, so that's one less step.
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Er, why? by
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We've already got humanized Dalek agents, at least one of which is yours, IIRC. What do you need with another one, and a canon character at that?
Just a reminder to all and sundry: recruiting canon characters, even ones that died in canon, is discouraged if not outright banned. It's one of those things that, while it did happen in the past, was generally agreed to have been a bad idea, even by some of the people that did it. I distinctly remember Chatvert expressing regrets about Team Phoenix, for one. The PPC is supposed to be preserving canon, not tinkering with it, which kinda means that dead people should stay dead.
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Touché. (nm) by
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Just so. by
on 2015-07-10 13:08:00 UTC
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If you really can't think of an original character from that setting, cobble together an Obvious Expy of the relevant canon character and say they're from a badfic. There's always comedy to be milked from that - or drama, in one of my own agents' cases. Poor Lilianna. She may one day be well.
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Agreed. by
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As someone who's got WAY too many agents (and who may or may not be writing out one of my teams soon, shhh!), I can say with confidence that there IS such a thing as too many good ideas.
Now, I'm not a Dr. Who fan, but I know that it would be interesting to recruit a species considered canonically evil, even if I agree with the discussion on the Shroobs below that there's a limit to that. But I've learned the hard way that too much of a good thing can lead to bad outcomes - like trying to control too many things, for a start. This gets doubly problematic with regards to recruiting canon characters - Sarah's a replacement of a bit character at best. The closest we'd have to recruited canons is recruited canon REPLACEMENTS, which is a pretty big difference.
So, well, if you do have a humanized Dalek already, and if he's suitable for Action Department mission stuff, I'd say just use him. It can't hurt, can't it? :) -
Words outta my mouth. (nm) by
on 2015-07-09 21:15:00 UTC
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Why.... by
on 2015-07-09 12:09:00 UTC
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I believe I do.
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Re: Why.... by
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Would you be interested in seeing the fic in question?
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Paging July, do you read me? by
on 2015-07-09 18:01:00 UTC
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I tried to access one of your missions and what I got was this lovely thing.
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Yes, I hear. by
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I'm actually in the process of moving my missions all here.
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You might want to edit the wiki accordingly, then.
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Yeah, will when I have the time. by
on 2015-07-09 23:52:00 UTC
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I've been on the busy side lately.
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I'm a technicality now? That's me told! ^_^ (nm) by
on 2015-07-09 07:36:00 UTC
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Sorry... by
on 2015-07-09 17:39:00 UTC
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I hope I didn't offend you in any way. I'm still just kinda intimidated by the prospect of working with you.
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Speaking of Doctor Who... by
on 2015-07-09 19:26:00 UTC
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Me and my younger sister are still watching the 2005 first season. We're new the end, just finished the two London Blitz episodes (those FREAKED ME OUT BEYOND MEASURE - it's a wonder I didn't get nightmares) and I'm excited to see how this return to London in Rose's present day will go. The Slitheens AND the Rift working together… Hoo boy…
One question: Taking into account what the Time Lords can do with Regeneration, how did all of the Doctor's people get wiped out except him? How is it possible with an ability like that? How did all the Daleks get wiped out except the one with their abilities? -
Also... by
on 2015-07-10 01:41:00 UTC
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There's a way to stop regeneration. Certain ways prevent it entirely, and you may have noticed agents on DW missions shooting Time Lord Sues twice. As far as I currently remember, if a Time Lord is killed mid-regeneration, it's permanent. Something like that.
But yeah, as the Boarder below me who I really need a nickname for said, it gets explained later on in the series.
~DF
PS: [EvilAI]UBEROverlord, do you have a particular preferred nickname? I definitely need one for you--from memory, the best I got was 'Evil[AI]Uberoverlord'. Which is the right words and word order, at least, but...nickname would be great. I'm just not at all sure which part of your name to take... -
Makes no difference to me by
on 2015-07-10 02:03:00 UTC
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If you wanted to you could call me Mr. Grumpy Gills. Of course I might question the sanity of that, and would like to be informed ahead of time. But most people I think are using EAIOU or something similar.
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I call you Vowels. Think Scapegrace and Ix do, too... (nm) by
on 2015-07-10 05:42:00 UTC
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Spoilers by
on 2015-07-09 20:10:00 UTC
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It gets explained later in the series. I think the episodes, The Name of the Doctor, The Day of the Doctor, and the Time of the Doctor end up explaining it best.
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About the War/Eighth Doctor... by
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I'm terribly confused. Some are arguing that since John Hurt's Doctor was actually called a Doctor in the 50th Anniversary (which I know nothing about except that a whole bunch of Doctors get together in one place), then he /should/ be the Eighth Doctor, and the whole list might have to be renumbered.
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I call him the Fellinith Doctor. by
on 2015-07-11 00:27:00 UTC
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Y'know... cause he's 8½.
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So... by
on 2015-07-11 01:40:00 UTC
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Is Seven the Kurosawath Doctor?
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YOU CANNOT TEMPT ME. by
on 2015-07-11 08:56:00 UTC
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I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IMDB LOOKING FOR FILMS THAT ONLY HAVE A NUMBER AS THE TITLE yea i totes am
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My mistake. by
on 2015-07-11 14:13:00 UTC
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Seven is the Fincherd Doctor, not the Kurosawath.
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So, in order: by
on 2015-07-12 09:58:00 UTC
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((I shall be ignoring the "vain phase"))
William Hartnell is the Crowderth Doctor
Patrick Troughton is the Papaioannouth Doctor
Jon Pertwee is the Raffillth Doctor
Tom Baker is the Sladeth Doctor
Peter Davison is the Obolerth Doctor
Colin Baker is the Karpynecth Doctor
Sylvester McCoy is, as Des correctly ascertained, the Fincherth Doctor
Paul McGann is the Blackburnth Doctor
John Hurt is the Fellinith Doctor
Christopher Eccleston is the Ackerth Doctor
David Tennant is the Kiarostamith Doctor
Matt Smith is the Madejth Doctor
Peter Capaldi is the Schumacherth Doctor
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Doctor no more. by
on 2015-07-10 18:22:00 UTC
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Since you already know about the War Doctor, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to show his origin. Here it is.
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on 2015-07-10 23:44:00 UTC
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Is why the Librarian, when he heard about the Last Great Time War, considered running away before it even began the single most important decision of his life.
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'why "The War Doctor"?' by
on 2015-07-10 16:18:00 UTC
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You said you'd seen most of the '05 series, right? So you've heard of the Last Great Time War? I'm pretty sure the Gelth mention it way back in The Unquiet Dead, and I'm nearly certain it comes up in Dalek.
Anyway, short answer: 'the War Doctor' is a term we use for the incarnation of the Doctor who was around during the (latter part of the) Time War. He was more warlike than his pre- and post-decessors, as a deliberate choice (he decided to take part in the Time War, rather than stay on the sidelines). He also specifically rejected the title 'Doctor', though as Some Say, he kind of reclaimed it during the 50th Anniversary (which you should wait to watch in order, for the record).
So should the numbering be changed? Ehhh... no. ^^ It's all external anyway - Nine never said 'I'm the Ninth Doctor' (or indeed 'I'm the Tenth Doctor, but I don't like to count the last guy, so let's go with Ninth'); they're just designations we use so we know which one we're talking about. And 'the War Doctor' is a perfectly acceptable title.
The production team pretty much settled this when they chose to call the current incarnation Twelve, even though he's in the thirteenth distinct form the Doctor has taken.
(Oh, and going back to your original question about the Time War: pretty sure Time Lords can't regenerate from a Dalek extermination beam. It'd be a pretty shoddy weapon to use against them if they could. ^^ Also they can't regenerate from being atomised or whatnot.)
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There's no way he would be Eight by
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Paul McGann was Eight, and he comes before the War Doctor. The War Doctor would be Nine, thus ruining the numbering scheme for all the New Who fans. If he needs a number, he's officially 8.5 to me.
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As I said everything gets explained later. by
on 2015-07-10 18:49:00 UTC
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But yes, watch everything in order.
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Hello Double Digits that come with a new style... by
on 2015-07-11 14:15:00 UTC
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Because we watched The Parting of Ways/The Christmas Invasion in one night… And what a satisfying conclusion for the Ninth!
The Tenth's opening episode was beyond funny. We laughed until I had to stop due to my sis not wanting what they said to be blocked out. So I smiled until my face hurt, to things like these:
Fire coming out of instruments
I know it's the Christmas Tree of Death, but the fact that it's playing "Jingle Bells"…!
His asking Rose how he looks, while surrounded by hostile aliens, and then complaining about his hair
The way he says "Button"
My sister doesn't like him though, says he's creepy and she doesn't like his new form.
Aside from that, I just realized that if the ninth series, and thus the 17th Doctor are to begin soon, then we're six series behind you if you count the 10th. Aww man…
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Oh, okay. by
on 2015-07-11 21:39:00 UTC
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I assummed a new Doc came along at the end of each series. Guess not. Is it just me, or does that version look creepy?
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If I were to write Dr. Who fanfiction... by
on 2015-07-11 22:08:00 UTC
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…which I have a strong feeling I might… How much canon should I watch at a minimum before I attempt to try it? What was the amount for you other fans before you started?
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Generally, all of it? by
on 2015-07-11 22:19:00 UTC
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Imagine trying to write fan fiction of, say, Harry Potter, while having only watched one of the movies. You're obviously going to get loads of stuff wrong, because you don't have all the information.
Obviously, you can't watch all of Doctor Who because there are missing episodes from the Classic era, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't see as much as you can before writing. And where you're unsure of stuff, use the Wiki. It's full of information you might have missed on your first, or even second or fifth viewings. -
Can I clarify this? by
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I don't think Ixendelle are trying to claim you need to watch literally every episode of Doctor Who still available before writing fic of it, because that would be pretty silly. You don't need to watch the First Doctor nearly marry an Aztec priestess in order to write the Ninth fighting banjo-wielding aliens, for instance.
What you need is to have a clear understanding of how the setting works, and to have all the facts relevant to the story you're writing. If you want to write about the Seventh Doctor, watch enough of him that you know how he acts. If you want to write about giant insect aliens, find out how many times the Doctor has faced those before (it seems to be quite a few). If you want to write a regeneration, find out how those work - preferably by watching some of them, but the Wiki is always useful.
hS
PS: I mean, hopefully the opening statement was kind of obvious? Iximaz writes Pokemon while presumably not having watched all 885 episodes of the anime; Desdendelle writes a Time Lord while not having, I suspect, listened to every Doctor Who audiobook; they both write for the PPC while not having read everything ever written about it, because a lot of it is very hard to find! Sometimes simple logic goes a long way. ^_~ ~hS -
Much better, thank you for clarifying. ^^; (nm) by
on 2015-07-13 15:47:00 UTC
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Good point. I'm asking because it hasn't finished yet. (nm) by
on 2015-07-12 01:19:00 UTC
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Well... by
on 2015-07-12 03:16:00 UTC
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Nobody's expecting you to know what's not yet known. It is, however, expected, that you will know what is already known.
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You lost me. (nm) by
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Basically... by
on 2015-07-12 17:57:00 UTC
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It's expected you'll know as much as possible about the fandom before writing fanfic for it.
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In other words, always keep up-to-date? by
on 2015-07-12 18:18:00 UTC
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But that'll be hard to do since the canon has never finished completely as of yet.
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Nobody's expecting you to know what hasn't been released yet (nm by
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Doctor Who Season 9 trailer, guys! by
on 2015-07-10 01:33:00 UTC
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Watch it here.
Now then, theory/discussion time!
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At 0:37, there's a construction that reminds me of Skaro from Classic Who. Anyone?because going back to their home planet would be such ahhhh
At 0:55, ZYGONS ARE BACK I CANOT WAIT
At 0:57, DOCTOR HAS A GUITAR WHAT IS THIS I CAN'T EVEN
At 1:20-- Who is this newcomer? DawnFire thinks it might be either Susan or Romana, to which I say YES PLEASE.
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I just realized something sad about the Doctor Who show... by
on 2015-07-14 16:08:00 UTC
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A reliable Doctor Who source (link below) says in the article on the Time Lord species that "all thirteen" incarnations of the Doctor put the other Time Lords in another dimension for…something… I don't know what yet. But, once he was about to die for good, they granted him a new cycle of regenerations, another round of thirteen forms. Thus, a Time Lord can only have thirteen forms. It's most likely that the new forms are the ones the audience sees him in. So, operating on that theory, it makes sense that once the 13th Doctor dies, he dies for good, without regenerating, if canon is to be followed.
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Not quite. by
on 2015-07-14 16:15:00 UTC
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'Once he was about to die for good' takes place at the end of Series 7, six serieseseses ahead of where you are now. The current incarnation has a full set of thirteen to use.
Which means you're reading spoilers, basically.
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WhoopsÂ… I did not know that took place in the future series. by
on 2015-07-14 21:03:00 UTC
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Seriously, I didn't know. Great.
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WaitÂ… You mean twelve incarnations, right? by
on 2015-07-14 21:05:00 UTC
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Since he changed from the Ninth to the Tenth, and therefore already used up one? At least at the point where I am, that's what has happened.
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Er... no. by
on 2015-07-14 21:11:00 UTC
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Okay, here's how it goes:
-The Classic Series (1963-198X) covers the First to Seventh Doctors.
-The TV Movie (199...9?) covers the Eighth.
-Series 1 of the revived series is the Ninth.
-Series 2-7 of the revived series cover the Tenth and Eleventh.
But, due to numbering shenanigans involving the War Doctor and some other stuff, the Eleventh Doctor is actually the thirteenth incarnation. Which means when he died, it would be Game (And Show) Over.
Except he is granted a full new set at the last moment. That means that:
-Series 8, and the upcoming Series 9, cover the Twelfth Doctor (the current incarnation). He is the first incarnation of the new set. So he has a full set of regenerations available.
Or, if you prefer: 'Just repeat to yourself, "It's just the show/I should really just relax...!"'
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AhhhÂ…. That makes much more sense. Thank you. (nm) by
on 2015-07-14 22:11:00 UTC
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As to Maisie Williams' Character by
on 2015-07-12 22:06:00 UTC
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The most common ones I have seen are either Susan or Jenny.
Here is a whole article on the speculation, for anyone who has not finished Series 8, there are spoilers. It is an interesting set
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*flails happily* by
on 2015-07-11 05:48:00 UTC
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I thought the same thing about the girl at the end, although Juliet Landau should really be Romana... so fingers crossed for Susan!
*bounces*
I spent all of last night freaking out about this!
This is great!
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YES!!! A billion times YES! by
on 2015-07-10 16:39:00 UTC
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I hope I finish LOST before September 19th... or else Doctor Who will obviously occupy my mind until season 9 is over! X3
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Looking forward to it :) (nm) by
on 2015-07-10 16:32:00 UTC
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*jumps on board the Hype Train* by
on 2015-07-10 12:33:00 UTC
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*waves flags, blows kazoo*
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Looks like fun! by
on 2015-07-10 09:13:00 UTC
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I know a lot of people didn't like Twelve due to his abrasive manner, but I think that's part of why I like him. Maybe it's because I write multiple Won't Put Up With That Nonsense characters myself? Anyway, this paragraph is just for spoiler protection, in case people see it on the preview. Is this enough text? It'd better be.
So: that was definitely Skaro, or at least a Dalek planet. Saw This And Thought Of Exterminate. ^^ Hopefully they'll be better handled than Rusty The Good Dalek.
Zygons are goofy-looking. ;) But shapeshifters do make for good monsters.
I wasn't counting, but there's at least two new monsters (apparently) in the trailer - the ghost-things and the welders. Ghost-things looked like another Moffatt 'here is a common fear MADE REAL' episode (see: Silence in the Library, Blink, Listen, multiple others); I'm not sure what the fear would be, but that was the vibe I got.
And the newcomer. Heh, given who every other Mysterious Character has been, is there any chance she's Missy again? ^^ I'd love her to be Susan (which might make the Dalek planet, um... Earth!), but I'm going to place an off-the-wall bet: Leela. Hey, she stayed on Gallifrey, didn't she? And the tone comes across as fairly classic Leela.
(She won't be Leela.)
September 19th is only two months away. ^_^
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As for that new kid... by
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Remember, Susan was happily married to David. Besides, we don't even know if she was a Time Lady (not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords, are they?)...
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I would like to see them bring her back as well (nm) by
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WOOOHOO! WOOOHOO! WOOHOOO! (nm) by
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Guess that means I need to get caught up on Series 8 then. (nm) by
on 2015-07-10 02:32:00 UTC
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GUYS OH MY GOD I CAN'T EVEN GALLIFREY by
on 2015-07-10 02:24:00 UTC
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LOOK AT THIS!
THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
GUYS I AM SO EXCITED
I CAN'T USE LOWERCASE
THIS IS HUGE, GUYS
SEJBW;EOJRW0WFLJSDSEK
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...never mind. ;-; by
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It's... it's a fanmade trailer.
I'm just gonna go crawl in a hole and cry now.
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What, really? by
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Why do you say that?
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It is? Where? by
on 2015-07-10 05:20:00 UTC
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Because the finding Gallifrey trailer is only on the fan site that I can see.
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Oh, whoops. by
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I thought you meant the main video, and I got really confused. I'm just stupid, that's all.
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No you're not. by
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But yeah. I was so excited, and then I found out it was fanmade, and then my hearts just kind of shattered. ;-;
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...Ix. Ix, Ix, Ix. by
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Did you spontaneously turn into a Time Lord there? Only, generally, humans have one heart.
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Er, nobody was using this sat-on Chameleon Arch, were they? (nm) by
on 2015-07-11 00:25:00 UTC
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*hastily stows her fobwatch* (nm) by
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Oh no... by
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I just realized we're six series behind… Me and my sis just said hello to Mr. 10 last night, and you all will be watching the 17th...
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I guess I'm a little put out because I'm behindÂ…. by
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I don't know.
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New fics out soon! by
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Which is to say, I might be needing beta services soon. But, let's worry about that when the time comes.
I've been writing a few short Trek fics surrounding the most dysfunctional crew of all time, who ride around in a powerful prototype warship that malfunctions more often than most PPC equipment. It's definitely a comedy, as I felt Trek was getting a little dark. The fics are also a good way for me to try out a new episodic format. I'm used to writing large epics, so if anyone has any tips for me on how to write episodically, I'll gladly take them! By the way, this is why I haven't been terribly active lately. Well, this and the fact that my internet connection has been finicky due to all the thunder storms. -
A Star Trek comedy, you say? by
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Well, I'll be looking forward to that. :) Which era does it take place in? Do they interact with the Enterprise at all?
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It takes place during Voyager, at first. by
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"At First" meaning that these guys won't pass up many opportunities to get home, due to barely being Starfleet officers. But, assuming they get home before reaching the Bajoran Wormhole, yes, there is a fairly high chance they'll interact with the Enterprise. The comedy style is actually very similar to the PPC, in the sense of malfunctioning equipment, insane crew, possibly-sentient computer that runs windows 9000.
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Does Daisy Bell ever play? (nm) by
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You'll just have to wait and see by
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But, I can assure you, the computer is even crazier than HAL. So, Daisy Bell does have a good chance of appearing. Even worse though, is the fact that Windows 9000 brought back the most despised "feature" of all time... Clippy.
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NOOOOOOOO! (nm) by
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New mission! by
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Extraterrestrial
Continua: Mario, Doctor Who
Agents: Valon Vance, Kala Jeng, Rina Dives
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Yay, congrats Rina! by
on 2015-07-12 21:17:00 UTC
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She got her own Sexy! :D
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Um... no, she didn't. (nm) by
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The Daleks aren't killing?! EXCUSE ME? by
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And she got her own TARDIS? HOW CAN ANYONE CREATE THIS MADNESS?|>
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I quite liked it! by
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The interactions of Rina and Valon were particularly enjoyable. And that fic... *shudders* One thing: The author notes dividing the bulk of the story from the TARDIS followup threw me off. I wasn't sure for a moment if the story ended there or somehow went on to another mission. I read this on my phone, though, so it might have just messed up and changed the order somehow. On the whole, fun and enjoyable mission!
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A bit late of a reply, but great job! by
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My favorite part has to be Valon as a Dalek, and it was nice to see the whole "EX-TER-MIN-ATE" thing being put to good use. :)
Kinda sad that the TARDIS didn't want Rina, though... I'm sure it'll end up in good hands someday. Here's hoping! -
Valon's hamminess was great. :P by
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And you can't give your characters everything. Honestly, it's probably for the best. I'd hate to see what would happen if Rina got her hands on a real TARDIS... :)
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I'm sure we can all guess. by
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It'll involve Gallifrey. And probably Rina being hella cute. Because Rina is just generally hella cute even when she's acting up.
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Congrats! by
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Seriously, what the heck was that thing? At least Valon (temporarily) got a TARDIS out of it :)
One question: Is the part where Valon meets that TARDIS supposed to be like an end-credits scene? The way the author's note was placed gave me that impression. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. -
Thanks! And your hunch is correct. :) (nm) by
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Good work by
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But I wonder how Valon got the power of knowing when Kala understands him.
The girtablilu took a bit to figure out what he was getting at. When she understood, though, he smiled.
Or it is a typo and you meant "she smiled".
Krautpicking:
1) I’ve never heard a German use "Blut" in swearing; this is probably a bloody Yankees’ habit.
"Scheiße! We forgot the TARDIS!” would work better.
2) We have the weird habit of capitalizing all nouns, not just proper nouns. If Valon has a good reason to swear by shit and blood, "Blut" should be capitalized.
3) I feel that "Blut und Scheiße" sounds better, although still weird. I have no rational explanation for this, it’s either "put the longer word at the end", or "progress from unpleasant to repugnant", maybe both.
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Ya learn something new every day.
I'll go ahead and recapitalize, though the current order rolls off the tongue more easily. To me, anyway. -
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I'll leave the other thing to Voyd; it could just be Valon mangling the German language, I dunno. ^^;
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Wow! by
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I really enjoyed this mission. Valon's choice of disguise was hilarious, and it's cool to see Rina getting into being the Aviator a little more.
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Thankee! :D (nm) by
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*grumbles* blasted HTML errors... by
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What the post was supposed to say was:
First Latin, now Spanish. The missions are becoming multilingual, it seems. Speaking of which: DawnFire, I believe that you had brought up an idea for a thread not too long ago. Still interested in starting such a thread? -
Yes, definitely. by
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I'd prefer to do it when I'll have the time to actually participate in it, though, which means not tomorrow--I've got all manner of birthday celebrations to go to, and I don't expect to be on much, if at all. I'll happily get it going on Monday, though!
Thanks for the reminder and the interest; I'd actually forgotten I mentioned that, and knowing for a fact that someone else is interested is always great.
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No problem. Looking forward to it. (nm) by
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Interesting read. But Spanish problems. by
on 2015-07-11 02:42:00 UTC
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Wow. This must be a PPC first: a badfic so short that the mission is able to quote the entire thing! So much fail with so few words…wow.
But there seems to be an error on your end as well.
"And why would she contact Davros, leaving aside the whole ‘complete different flarking universe’ problem? I just… no. No tienes razón."
Is Valon speaking to one of the badfic characters? As written, he said "You're not right."
With my limited Spanish, I would consider correcting it to no tiene razón, but even though it correctly translates "he isn't right" in the sense "he's wrong" I don't know if it is appropriate for "this isn't right" in the sense you want, i.e., "this makes no sense" or "something's screwy here."
If there are any Spanish speakers aBoard, please help.
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Actually, Gabrielle and Trollenfisch beat them to it. by
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Their second mission (NSFW/B) covered a fic that was even shorter and even more chock-full of fail and stupid.
And this is why I no longer go fanfic-hunting at three in the morning. You find too much weird stuff. -
He was talking to the fic itself. by
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I remember that phrase from Spanish class back in high school.
And hey, there's always Edhelistar. He's a native Spanish-speaker. -
El tiene razón... by
on 2015-07-11 17:37:00 UTC
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"No tienes razón." usually is used as "You're wrong," but can also be used as meaning "You're insane," in the sense of "You're not right," yes. Although the sentence isn't used as commonly as the affirmative, is technically correct.
But probably not in the sense that Voyd wants it to use it. I haven't corrected it, because I haven't found a way to correct it, that, uh, sounds right. XD
Because well, while "No estás bien," and "Estás mal," are more grammatically correct in that sense, they don't sound very hammy, and are quite boring. Or you could not speak to the fic at all and use "Esto no está bien," (This isn't right) instead. -
Very light and fun :) I enjoyed the read! by
on 2015-07-10 22:49:00 UTC
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Valon's last choice of disguise was pretty fun, too--I'd been thinking about that for a bit, and it was fun to see on screen. I'm still wondering which of my agents could potentially try it out...
...yeah, I'll keep thinking.
But yeah. Very fun. Good job, both of you!
~DF