Why yes. Yes it is.
Enjoy, everybody!
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Is that a Ten Years Hence story? by
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I smiled all the way through. ^. ^ by
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I wish I could think of something more to say, but I'm afraid that's it. It's a nice little piece.
Oh, and it does pique my curiosity about what you've got in store for Rina. I can't wait to see how she ends up aging a few hundred years in the course of ten. O.o
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Spoilers. ;) by
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But ahh, thank you! I'm glad you liked it. :D
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Rina Song? Rina Song. =] (nm) by
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Lovely by
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But shouldn’t this read "for a TARDIS it was"?
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And I don't think it has to, especially considering I think it's a stylistic choice (lovely things where you get to bend the rules of grammar :P).
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*Is gibberish* SOCUTE! ^_^ (nm) by
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Ahaha, thanks! ^^; (nm) by
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Beta request by
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Hey, all. Long time, no talky-thing. I'm in the market for a beta reader (or two) for a short Catastrophe Theory related story. Are you a bad enough dude/dudette/starfish to
save the presidentbe my next beta? If so, reply to this with your email address.
Spaces are limited. I am only taking a maximum of two betas for this project. Apply today!
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Alas and drat. (nm) by
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There's always next time. (nm) by
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I'd be glad to, if you feel you're not full up already. (nm) by
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Whoops, nevermind. by
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I typed that out before I saw the maximum number thing. But keep me in mind for when you next need a beta if you like.
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No problem by
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I'll keep you in mind. I plan on getting back to work on stories, now that I have a little more access to the computer I share with Nesh. So I might get something done in less than...two years? Really? It's been that long?
Wow.
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If it makes you feel better, I've finished nothing in 4. (nm) by
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You have a pile of half-finished stories, too? (nm) by
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A pile? A mountain! by
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Enough, in fact, that I often scarce know where to start when I decide to clear out the backlog. Not to mention having been busy with school stuff, other projects, picking my voice acting back up, etc. - but I think I have some ideas for picking some of them back up, now.
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Hm... by
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I know that poking the list with your finger can help deciding with such things.
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My services are available. by
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You can reach me at poorcynic(AT)me{DOT)com.
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While calling myself a "bad dude" is not my habit... by
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I'll gladly beta this story of yours. Email is sur DOT nhm AT gmail DOT com.
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General Expertise. by
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So, I was just listlessly browsing the wiki, clicked the "Random Page" button because why not? and I came across the General Expertise page.
*cue angelic choir*
Beautiful. I realized how incredibly helpful it would be to be able to ask about some of these things in regards to an OC I'm writing for.
To those who don't know, I am currently engaged in the rather "Arda"uos task of creating a believable, non-MS Tenth Walker. I'm fairly satisfied with her so far- Amy Trsitan, thirty five year old software architect, fencer, and incredibly socially awkward and isolated human. I've already got the basic gist of the plot, including how she got to Middle-earth (approved by hS- yay!), why she is allowed on the Quest, and why she's going on the Quest. That's all good.
What I need the most help with is fencing. Amy is a veteran fencer- she's been doing it for two decades. At the moment, I actually have her down as a gold-winning Olympian, but I think I'll tone that way down (unless a wiser head in such manners thinks it's a good idea?). Anyway, I know the bare basics of fencing, courtesy of Wikipedia and various passing references in books, but I would really appreciate a more in-depth look at the sport; mostly focusing on training. Amy also practices regular swordplay (her weapon of choice is a Roman gladius) and I would deeply appreciate principles and fundamentals in that area as well.
The other matter I would like some help with is psychology, if possible. Amy has a certain disorder called "selective mutism." Again, all I know is Wikipedia-level stuff, but basically she chooses not to speak, though she has the ability- sort of. Selective mutism is an anxiety disorder usually found in younger children, and is paired closely with social anxiety. Amy has a severe form known as "progressive mutism," which means she won't speak to anyone, rather than not speaking only in certain situations.
Here's my current backstory for her, which is very much up for critique and suggestion (and outright "Yeah, you're totally wrong and that's ludicrous." Should that be needed).
When she was very young, Amy had trouble learning to speak. She also had growing social anxiety, which made it even harder to learn, and eventually she wasn't making any progress at all. Her parents, who didn't want to force her to do anything, assumed she would grow out of it. She didn't, and over time as she used her voice less and less, she convinced herself that she was actually becoming mute (we've all experienced that harsh, painful croak when we haven't spoken for a while). Before long, she was totally sure in her own mind that she couldn't speak if she tried. Her parents were rightly concerned, but didn't have the proper resources, and didn't know that Amy had a disorder, much less that it could be treated. In addition, Amy seemed happier not being able to speak. It removed the pressure from her to be social and talk to anyone, and she was able to get along just fine with her parents using sign language.
Thus enters fully-grown Amy. Technically, if she learned, she could speak, but she is (a) far too prideful to ask anyone to teach her and (b) would find the whole process mortally embarrassing.
I apologize if the whole section feels rather vague; I don't know anything about what the time scale on this would be. Would it all take place before age seven? Age five? I have no idea.
I also don't have any experience with true social anxiety; I mean, I'm a little awkward at times, but that's about it. So.. add that to the list of things I could use help with.
Anyway, if it's not too much of a bother, I would really appreciate it if you guys could help me out. I very much want Amy to be a good OC, and these sorts of things are very important to that. -
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First off, I'm not officially diagnosed, and I know my "level" of social anxiety isn't as bad as some people have, since I'm still capable of working around people and having conversations. I just want to share my experience in case it's valuable to you.
So basically, my anxiety reaches it's true worst on work days that are so busy that I'm having to interact with people constantly, with no down time between zoo guests, and hence, no chance to cool down from acting like a regular human. Since my normal baseline is to retreat into my thoughts, the days where I'm forced to keep my attention directed outwards towards people make me start to actually feel like I'm losing my sense of self. Eventually, I get desperate to escape from the people around me, but can't do so in the middle of a work shift. That's when I start to feel hopeless. My entire body starts to go numb, I get dizzy and start hyperventilating, and I have difficulty keeping my balance and controlling my hands. I can't get my body back to normal again until I'm alone and feel safe.
One weird caveat is that if people are making me angry, then I don't reach the point of panic attack. Not really sure why; maybe just because anger hormones are energizing, and keep me from getting that hopeless feeling?
Again, I don't know if this is really useful for you, as I don't know how typical my form of anxiety is, but that's how it is for me.
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Very useful! by
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I have been trying to puzzle out what the physical effects would be, and this is incredibly helpful. So far all I had was intense blushing, but instead of shutting down Amy would start to feel jittery, and now I see that's not true to life. Thank you so much!
I'm guessing that each person is a little different, but if yours is very atypical, then more research or another commenter will show it to be so.
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While they haven't gotten to anything called selective mutism (give it time), I recommend watching Comical Psychosomatic Medicine. Yeah, it's silly and irreverent, but it's also really educational on a whole lot of psychology stuff. I personally found the episode on sleep disorders to be helpful. I'm a lifelong insomniac.
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I shall give them a look!
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I'm severely claustrophobic when stuck in a large crowd of people, and I feel like I'm beginning to suffocate. I tend to freeze up even though my brain is screaming at me to GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT. Sweating badly, shaky legs, feeling like I'm going to throw up, the usual.
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and unpleasant :( I'm sorry! That definitely helps, though. Thank you!
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Re. fencing by
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I don't know enough to really go into detail myself, but my brother fenced for years, and he even reached A-level, which is near-Olympic quality. I'll do my best, and then if you have specific questions, let me know and I can pass them on to him. {= )
I think I can safely say that training consists largely of footwork, footwork, and more footwork. The sort of lunges fencers have to do to reach their target while exposing themselves as little as possible are ridiculous—it takes a lot of leg strength and flexibility. Also, you have to be fast and accurate, and you only get that by doing things over and over and over. Actual bouts happen pretty quickly, but the training is intense.
Then of course there's learning the rules. Each weapon style has different acceptable target areas—smallest for foil, largest for épée. The style is most different for sabre, though, since you can strike with the blade and not just the tip. I think most fencers specialize in one weapon, maybe expanding into the others if they feel like it or if there's a need on their team. (My brother specialized in foil, but also competed sometimes in épée, IIRC. I don't think he did sabre much, if at all.) And you can only score points for touches if you have right-of-way, which I don't fully understand. It seems fairly complicated.
You should know that the sport of fencing is not remotely akin to actual sword-fighting. Fencing swords are light and flexible, with blunt tips, so you don't actually hurt your opponent (apart from some occasional bruising) when you hit them. Real swords are heavy and sharp, and you're not supposed to stop as soon as you touch the target. Plus, your opponent will not be waiting until they have right-of-way to hit you—they'll just go for it. Her fencing training might let her avoid a few blows if she's quick enough at her age, but would otherwise be pretty much entirely against her in actual combat.
Presumably that's why you threw in regular swordplay, too, but again I'd caution you that what she practices for sport will not really prepare her for deadly combat where no one has to follow the rules.
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This helps immensely! And that's so cool! I think that's what Amy will be; her Olympian status is sort of a relic of a slightly different version of her character, in which she was an over-achiever due to true muteness. A-level provides a reference to her dedication and skill, while avoiding the slightly speshul Olympian. One question I have is "sword forms"- are those.. a thing? I've heard of them being used as practice, but through fiction. In my currently-being-written rough draft, that's how she practices with a non-fencing sword.
Wow, that is complicated!
Yes, that's why I threw it in- although I hadn't thought about the quickness aspect of fencing. That will come in handy rather often, I think. Amy is fit for her age, due to daily training and a healthy diet to the point of obsession.
Ah, yes, I'm very much looking forward to that! :) Amy can be an arrogant individual when it comes to her skill set, and she honestly thinks she's prepared for any sort of fight. Enter big, snarling, definitely-not-playing-by-the-rules Orcs. Amy is going to get knocked down quite a few notches over her time in Middle-earth, starting with her fighting abilities.
Oh, two totally off-topic things; on the General Expertise page, there's a section of religion, and I think I could be listed there under Christianity. I know a fair bit, and what I don't know I can try to find. I'm just very afraid to make any sort of edit to the wiki- it seems slightly complicated, and I don't want to mess anything up. Could I ask someone else to edit me onto there?
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I've e-mailed my brother about this now, so hopefully, if he's not too busy, I can get you some authentic information straight from the source.
Also, if you could give me your e-mail address, I can send you some links to stuff about him and his fencing career, such as a YouTube video of an interview with him after he qualified for a regional tournament in 2012. It's all publicly available, but I'm still leery of tying real-life stuff to my username out where anyone can see it. {= )
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Actual information! by
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Here's what my brother says, with a couple minor edits and paragraphs added for convenience:
"For the most part, what [Neshomeh] said was true. Footwork is easily the most important aspect of fencing to hone. If your footwork is good enough, you can participate with little to no experience in any of the three weapons and perform well.
"The real reason footwork is crucial is distance. If you are half an inch too close they hit you, half an inch too far and you miss them. Precise control takes a lot of strength at those speeds and learning how to control not only how close you are to them, but how close you allow them to come to you is half the game. Getting just close enough so they think they can attack safely, then being just out of reach, is the best way to set up a winning attack. And, as Mr. Miyagi says, the best way to avoid an attack is to not be there.
"As long as [you aren't] going to attempt to have this person do any significant amount of fencing in the story, there are a few nice hints that I can describe that will make the character seem more believable. First off, not only does a fencer's legs have to be very strong, they become asymmetrical after a while. Your front leg (right for most people) will have much larger quadriceps than your left and the left calf ends up looking like someone's fist embedded in the back of your leg. This is avoidable with exercise, but it's something unique to fencers that [you] could bring up and impress any real fencers who might be reading.
"[Your] question of forms is based on Eastern martial traditions, kata and so forth. However, [you] could impart a certain character to Amy's fencing fairly easily. Each weapon has a very distinct style, too, and within that the best countries in fencing tend to have their own unique personalities: Russians fence in a very direct and simple way, the Italians flourish and spin their blades more dramatically, and the French are just [darned] irritating. Americans are usually heavily influenced by the older styles as their coaches tend to be immigrants from another country.
"Saber is incredibly quick; each action happens in the course of a few seconds and entire bouts are resolved in less than 3 minutes. Foil is more drawn-out and complex, usually involving both fencers moving from one end of the strip to the other a couple times before any touch is scored. Then épée is much slower-paced, but no less intense in its own respects. The fencers stand off against each other, generally they hop a little bit the whole time, it's similar to a tennis player rocking back and forth so they can respond instantly. A friend of mine has the nickname "Proud Baby Mudfoot" for not doing this.
"During this process, each fencer is looking for a weakness in either their opponent's form so as to attack at an angle that they can strike without being hit themselves (the whole body is valid target in épée), or in their opponent's rhythm. If you can attack whilst your opponent is mid-step/hop or immediately before they do, so as to surprise them, they'll usually just kind of stare blankly at you while you poke them indiscriminately.
"So there are a lot of options [you] can go with as far as what [you want] the character to be like and how potentially real combat would end for her. Speaking of real combat, if [you intend] to use their fencing to actually fight other humans to the death, or the severely wounded at least, there are things that are important for [you] to know. First off, the reason right of way exists is actually to train a person for real combat. The reason you score when you do is to teach you that you need to defend when attacked and attack so as not to be skewered in the process. If they attack and hit you, and you counter-attacked, they get the point because you were dumb and made no effort to defend yourself. If you attack and are parried, odds are they can attack you before you can recover, and if you try and attack again and they hit you, they get the point because you were stupid.
"Épée does not have right of way; it's a common misconception that épée is the most realistic because the entire body is valid target and you use the largest blades. Rapiers are very well balanced and quite bendy actually, which is good because if they were too brittle they'd break all the time. Épée was actually training for first blood duels with the goal being simply to touch your opponent first and draw blood to win. If you attacked at the same time and both drew blood there is no clear winner and you continue the match. The exception of course being if one of you is dead and the other isn't.
"Saber was set up as training for cavalry troops fighting each other on horseback. Saber has changed the most in its history and in that respect it is virtually useless, but fighting on foot it isn't as bad though, it's the fastest and it's the only one that features cutting attacks. The target areas are set up to teach fighting for maximum effect. Aiming for the body is the most consistent way of scoring a lethal blow. Limbs move about quickly and unpredictably, people are very wary of their heads and can move them side to side very effectively. Watch a high level boxing match and you'll see what I mean. Torsos are big and the hardest part of one's self to get out of harm's way. There are lots of squishy bits that aren't protected by hard bones for your blade to graze off of. Those squishy bits are also pretty important for people to survive; puncturing lungs, hearts, or stomachs will generally kill if they aren't treated by very advanced medicine very quickly.
"How Amy would deal with brutal fighting depends on her level of dorkiness and/or general ferocity. Judging by what I've read, she would just die. Without deliberate practice for the purpose of really fighting, all she could rely on would be her footwork and sense of timing, which are really important and would let her dance circles around any one moron with a baseball bat. If she went up against someone with martial weapons training or a group of people, she'd just get smoked. It takes a special kind of dork to work on learning the martial applications of fencing alongside the sporting aspects. Generally speaking, people who achieve an A ranking aren't dorks, they are athletes. I'm a very rare exception and I wasn't as great a fencer as I could have been for it.
"If either of you have more questions I can answer them.
"Oh, speaking as a fencer with anxiety, there are things that would be likely for Amy. She would be a defensive fencer. She would lose in saber. Saber is entirely too aggressive for someone with any apprehension at all to succeed in. Of course there's levels of savantism or whatever, [you] could write it off in a lot of different ways, but speaking from experience she would perform ideally in épée or foil. Being taller or shorter would significantly influence her style as well."
That should really help. My brother is a cool dude. ^_^
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This is AWESOME- your brother is a veritable treasure trove of knowledge! My great thanks to him, and to you too, Neshomeh!
I do have a few more questions, if he doesn't mind- Amy is rather tall at five feet, nine inches, and uses a roughly two foot long sword; how would her style be affected? Judging by what you said, I would say she specializes in foil, so how would that factor in? And also, what Eastern traditions are most commonly practiced, and how would they influence her? Her sword is Roman, and if such a thing exists I could see her trying to train herself in the "Roman way." She couldn't do it particularly well, of course, as she has no one to spar with and no teacher besides the internet.
Amy wouldn't have trained for battle, really- she might have deluded herself somewhat into thinking she has, but you're right; she'll just get smoked.
Thank you so much for the comments on anxiety; that's a really big part of her character, and overcoming it is one of the focuses of her story. And now I know that she'll be a lot more likely to defend, rather than attack, and when facing a raging Uruk that's generally not what you want to do.
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He writes:
"So, taller people use their height to its maximum advantage whenever they can. Their game is dictated by their ability to reach out and touch people before they themselves can be hit. They can launch an attack at very long range and retreat to safety before anyone can do anything about it.
"On the defense, they intercept their opponents mid-attack in what is called a prise de fer (preese de fare). The basic idea is that before their blade comes anywhere near you, you swat it out of the way, and because they were already initiating an attack you don't have to move at all and they run themselves onto your blade.
"Another good trick tall people can get away with, when dealing with shorter opponents, is to initiate an aggressive attack that is purposefully going to fail and leave your blade extended in the lunge. The opponent sees this as an opportunity to catch you too close and they move in to strike. As soon as they do this, you hit them and retreat as fast as you possibly can. If your timing is even a little off, they'll catch you and score the touch. This is the kind of trick that would very likely get someone killed. If you do it right, you just barely touch them and bail. At best it would be a wounding attack, and in a bout scenario, after a point is scored, the action stops for a moment. Advanced fencers know when they have scored and stop right afterwards. If one were to merely wound their opponent, then just stop fighting, odds are they're about to be very brutally butchered.
"In so much as fencing is concerned, no Eastern traditions are taught or practiced. Any work on that that Amy might have done would have been on her own time and would, generally speaking, impart "bad" habits on her fencing and hurt her performance at tournaments. The closest equivalent to Western fencing in the East that I know of are the Tai Chi sword forms. Those are worth looking into, YouTube videos abound, if you are interested in making her overall style more fanciful.
"Romans had "long swords," but they aren't the sort of hand and a half European long-swords that are traditionally associated with fantasy novels. A Roman spatha, spathae plural, was modeled after the swords that the Romans had encountered in Gaul, Germany, and Britain. They are more like a Viking sword than anything else. Single handed, broad blade, and they didn't taper to the piercing point of a long-sword. As a fencer, it would be an abhorrent weapon. Entirely lacking all the precision and grace of more refined weapons. It was heavy, and poorly balanced. Best suited for hacking and chopping. A good weapon for a shield wall, not so good for combat without a shield. The lack of balance and weight of the weapon would leave you terribly exposed on the recovery unless you were really very strong. Like, Gregor Clegane strong.
"The Roman style of training would have been conducted with a group of people. Very organized and regimented. Romans fought as a group, not as individuals. Rome's greatest asset in warfare was its ability to field bigger armies more often than their opponents. Their tactics were efficient and brutal, but they did not focus heavily on complicated swordplay. Get 500 guys together, give them big shields, heavy swords, and train them not to run away long enough to win the battle.
"I don't intend to dictate to anyone, but late English cut and thrust swords or a rapier would be the best option. They offer balance, speed, and precision. The cut and thrust is heavier and could more effectively parry an attack from heavier weapons. The rapier is of course the ideal, but the only defense option available would be dodging with timing and distance. Those sorts of swords lend themselves the most to the training and skills she would have developed as a fencer."
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I've actually already written that she has one on earth; it would be quite simple to go back and rewrite so that she takes it instead. I might give her the cut and thrust weapon though, since it has a bit more weight. By the way, I'm assuming "cut and thrust weapons" is a group, not a particular sword- which one of them do you think would be best?
Another thing to keep in mind; Amy's not used to extended fights. As I haven't really firmed up the Fellowship's route yet, it'll be interesting to see whether or not she has to enter any battles, and what she'll do in them. Thanks for the different tricks! I'm going to incorporate those at some point.
I'll definitely look into those; thanks!
So, she wouldn't really like a Roman weapon or style at all- got it. I originally gave her a gladius, but it's a little thing (although I don't have many references, so it might be closer to average), and it wouldn't do much good against bigger swords.
Man, it's a good thing I asked about fencing! My story would have been way off; thank you both! I think I have just one more question; besides speed, what would you say is the most valuable Amy has learned in fencing that will help in a real fight?
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I used to fence saber for about two years, back when I was in eighth and ninth grade, but I never learned half of this stuff. I can confirm footwork is important (for all my two cents are worth, considering who's already given his speech!); it helped me win my first medal thanks to my much more experienced opponent being old and slow. XD
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Are you there, Creator? by
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Have you noticed any differences between universes of which the author is still alive (like Harry Potter) and universes of which the author is dead (like Lord of the Rings)?
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Not really by
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I think the real difference is between a world that is still written and a world that has been abandoned. It doesn’t really matter whether the author is still alive. JKR has stated quite clearly that Harry Potter’s story is finished and she doesn’t intend to write more of it. Well, I’m still dreaming of Hermione Granger and the Interspecies Treaty (Harry doesn’t feature, he is too busy rounding up the last Death Eaters), but that’s just a delusion. We occasionally get some breadcrumbs on Pottermore, like we may still get new breadcrumbs from Tolkiens unpublished notes, but if we paid attention to the novels there shouldn’t be any big surprises.
(On the other hand, Isaac Asimov suddenly wrote new books connecting Foundation to the Robot-novels when the Foundation-universe apparently had been abandoned for decades. Nah, this won’t happen.)
Anyway, the potterverse felt much differently when we still waited for the next book, and everything seemed possible, and then a lot of fanfiction became outdated when the new book was published. Of course, everything has never been possible. The problems of an incomplete canon and what may or may not plausibly be possible are a major theme in "The Hogwarts Fanfiction Academy".
I’ll stop rambling here.
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Random survey: popular fandoms by
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So, on a whim, I figured that I'd be interested in learning what fandoms are popular among the PPC.
Basically, what I have in mind is taking a work of fiction, and counting how many PPCers count it as one of their fandoms.
I have no doubt in my mind that Harry Potter, Pokémon and Discworld are in the top five.
Making this slightly difficult is the fact that not a lot of PPC Wiki users list all of their fandoms. Perhaps you could make a list in Pastebin? After all, it's to see how popular a lot of fandoms are within the PPC.
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Note: I tried to limit myself to continua that actually have PPC missions. There are a few that don't fit this, but I figured that they'd probably be good exceptions.
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on 2015-06-03 19:01:00 UTC
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Done by
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Had to add Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 to the 'other' video games list (as a bracket next to Dawn of War) as there was nowhere else to put them.
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I did the thing. (nm) by
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Responded. Love me a good survey. (nm) by
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Replied (& current Top Ten) by
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Harry Potter 17
Monty Python 15
Discworld 15
Avatar: TLA 14
Doctor Who 14
Pokemon 14
Star Wars 13
Frozen 12
The Incredibles 12
Marvel CU 12
The most shocking thing for me? LotR is not in the top 10! It clocked in at 11 votes so far, which is the same as Mulan, fercryinoutloud. Eesh.
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I have a Theory. by
on 2015-06-02 16:31:00 UTC
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That Theory is that LotR's appeal decreases the younger the person in question is. I get this from looking at various people I know, are roughly my age (or a bit younger) and that actually read.
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I'm dubious. by
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Mostly because I was already a massive fan when FotR came out, and I was all of 15 then. Unless things have changed dramatically in the last year, most Boarders these days are older than that.
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My theory is bunnies. by
on 2015-06-02 23:35:00 UTC
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Or maybe midgets.
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The Plot Bunnies? I knew those guys were evil! (nm) by
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Or you don't think it is. by
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(Nuzgul are adorable and I have no regrets. Image by Pika.)
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*pats your back* There, there. by
on 2015-06-02 11:05:00 UTC
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*is not pleased about this in any way, nope*
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Responded, as well! (nm) by
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Done like dinner. And during dinner, to boot! (nm) by
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The survey thus far by
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So there are a lot of things that people added with "Other" that don't get counted under the Google Analytics thing. I'll go ahead and list those here.
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I would also recommend changing Skyrim to The Elder Scrolls. Yes, I know that's what they entered, but it would be like saying you are a fan of Half Blood Prince, and only Half Blood Prince.
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I've only played Skyrim. by
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Can't very well say I like Arena or Daggerfell or the rest if I've never actually played 'em, can I?
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Finished. (nm) by
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But why no Comics? =(
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Responded. by
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My 'other' lists were quite long, eheh.
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I also responded! by
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By the way, I don't actually watch any anime, but it's a required field so I clicked "other" and explained in the box.
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FYI, I only checked off things that make me go "Yes, that is a thing I definitely like!" as opposed to just anything I've seen/read/etc. and might have enjoyed but don't particularly have feelings about.
(What, no theatre category? ... I guess it is pretty tiny and mostly based on literature....)
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What about... by
on 2015-06-01 20:16:00 UTC
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Making an actual survey on Google or something? That way you wouldn't have to comb through a bunch of Pastebin files to gather data. It would be a LONG survey by necessity, but you could split it up by books, films, video games, etc. to keep it neat. You could use the Fandom categories on the wiki as a place to start for gathering options, though of course not every fandom that's popular now is represented by a page on the wiki and not everything with a page is popular now.
I'd also suggest setting a working definition of "fandom" that fits what you want to learn. Are you interested in every single thing that people might happen to like, or the ones they actively participate in somehow (i.e. cosplay, fan forums, writing fic, making art, etc.), or just the ones they might conceivably write a mission in? Framing the question will get you better, more specific answers, and also make it easier for us to figure out how to respond.
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It's about that time of year again, isn't it?
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What time of year? by
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Seriously, I'm asking.
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Yearly census survey. by
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Which have been done roughly every year for a good while excepting the ones I had formally been gone during.
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Oh, probably. by
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I don't remember when we did the last one, so might as well!
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I'll try to make that a priority sometime this week. by
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I have the goal of getting all my old stuff stuck on a DW for publishING purposes before we go out to sea again, might as well add that to the list.
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Google survey? by
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That's a thing I can do? I admit that I don't know everything about Google. Mostly I just use image and web search or the translator.
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Yup! by
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Go into your Google Drive, click New, select More, select Google Forms, and go! It's a little tricky to figure out all the gizmos at first, but not too hard once you get the hang of it.
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Well, I'm getting baffled. by
on 2015-06-01 21:53:00 UTC
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Would you (or someone else) be so kind as to assist me with making this blasted thing?
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Why not make it a survey? by
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Check five or ten users, make that your basic list, then leave an open box for 'other'. Put it up on Google Drive or something.
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*waves hand* by
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I don't have a user page, but I don't mind listing my favorites here, if that's okay. Or was that what you had in mind in the first place?
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Aye, but make it in Pastebin and link it. (nm) by
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Shall I wait for a survey then? (nm) by
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New mission, with a new team! by
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Before you ask: This is going to be a relatively minor RC, and I don't want to detract from the major three that I'm currently rotating around. There is a damn good reason for bringing in (hopefully) the last two agents I'll be introducing, and that's gonna tie into the big thing I'm planning for my Floaters' team in the future. (Though it won't be anytime soon, alas, since I'll be extremely busy in the coming weeks and months. I'll most likely get to it in the autumn term, once I get a stable income!)
Anyway, without further ado, please give a warm welcome to Agent Backslash and his mentor Whitney, from RC #88224646BA of the DMS-VG division! Join them as they take on a bloodthirsty replacement of a certain green-clad, Koopa-stomping plumber in...
"The Green Maul"
Bonus: Alternate Ending
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The mission reads quite a bit better than when I was betaing it. But it seems that a few errors slipped through the cracks. HG and EPL already caught the missing W in "wall," so here's the rest:
the Dedede dummy which had surreptitiously taken the canon’s place prepared to fight.
That should be "the Dedede dummy that had surreptitiously taken the canon's place"
“Wow, poor Luigi,” Honedge!Shulk said sympathetically. “Looks like that advice wasn’t enough to help him.”
“Why do you think that?”
“Oh, I don’t know. I simply made an… educated guess.”
Beat. “…It’s the ‘Green Mario’ thing, I’m guessing,” Whitney said finally.
The Shulk double nodded slowly. “Correct. Though he’s technically been a semi-clone since his debut.”
Apparently everyone else got what you're saying here, but could you please explain what you are referencing?
Once they had made sure that Not!Luigi was well and truly gone, they returned to their RC, Honedge!Shulk sat down at the foot of the single bed once again.
This is a comma splice. Either add an "and" before "Honedge!Shulk" or split the two sentences.
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on 2015-06-04 14:36:00 UTC
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Luigi is constantly treated in the fandom as an inferior clone of Mario, which may have stemmed from the fact that he started out as a palette swap of him during their 8-bit days. The semi-clone thing is from Smash, though, and I just fixed that to make it more specific.
I was erring on the side of caution when I cut out the alternate ending, because I'm still not sure how well people would take the agents actually visiting the canons in their element. Even if I personally think it would be funny to have the real Luigi remain completely oblivious to the whole mess, agents' interactions with canons should in general be kept to a safe minimum. If people want the bonus ending to be included in the actual mission, though, I guess I'd be happy to oblige!
Also, because I have nowhere else to put this, paging... basically everyone working on the Rose Potter cleanup interlude. I may or may not get to work on a little something today that you may all be interested in... -
Uh, what? by
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I liked most of this, but there are two things that rubbed me the wrong way.
[...] the anthropomorphic Honedge was so engrossed in this and many other questions that he didn’t realize that he’d passed by the RC he was looking for until he’d kept walking for several minutes.
This is not how PPC HQ usually works. If you don’t pay attention, you should soon arrive where you should be, although that’s not always where you intended to go. Realizing that you’ve walked too far and trying to return should actually make it more difficult to get there, until you are distracted again. Since Flashback absentmindedly walked past the door rather than crashing into it, he apparently was not supposed to be there yet, possibly because the narrative laws of comedy required that he arrived only after Whitney got the mission, they would have no time to talk, and would go into the fic mostly unprepared. I was disappointed when this didn’t happen.
It had taken quite a bit of convincing to get Dedede to head through the portal to where Ike was, but the hammer-wielding bird had finally relented once Whitney told him that the match had been cancelled. He wouldn’t be fighting Luigi today – but there was a free-for-all open on the Gaur Plain stage, with Ike already getting ready to go.
Why didn’t we see this? It’s true that interacting too much with canons is frowned upon, but doing it off-page doesn’t help your cause, especially when you rant about "Show, Don’t Tell" in your author’s notes.
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She looked at him with frightened apprehension, but he turned to he and added [...]
The second "he" should be "her".
The humanized Sword Pokémon slammed into the opposite all, and before he could raise his Monado to defend himself, Not!Luigi had begun pummeling him, kicking and pounding.
Oh, eatpraylove already noticed the missing "w", and I don’t agree with her second point. Not!Luigi had already begun pummeling Backslash (past perfect) before Backslash could raise his weapon (past tense) looks perfectly right to me.
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I totally forgot that about the PPC HQ. Stupid me. And I changed things up so that we actually get to see Whitney relocating Dedede, so yeah.
And one thing I should clarify... Backslash wasn't told about the agent protocol before stepping into the mission, which is why he acted out of haste and ended up getting the snot beaten out of him. So he actually WAS unprepared, mentally at least, and as eatpraylove pointed out, he was also a little 'enthusiastic' about the job - a combination which can be incredibly risky knowing how PPC missions usually go. -
Ooof. That one was a doozy. by
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Thanks for defending Luigi's honor.
I like him better than Mario anyway.Whitney and Backslash balance each other out pretty well, but I'm confused about a few aspects of all this.
For starters, what the heck is Backslash's species? I know he's a former Stu and therefore a bit canon-breaking by default, but having him as both a Honedge gijinka and a Shulk replacement strikes me as a little overpowered. And mostly confusing. (I assume you wrote the snippet of fic he came from?) He also strikes me as a little too violent for active duty, even with the Glitter removal and therapy sessions.
I feel like you brought up the possibility of a Wii Fit Trainer Agent in a thread some time ago; if you did, props for somehow making it work. (Still waiting for Brenda and/or Vampire!Robin to get more screentime...)
My usual list of things...
-"...I thought it was the Villager who was portrayed as a psychopathic mass-murderer by the fandom, and not [– OW!]"
This doesn't feel natural. Try something like "...Usually the Villager gets the psycho mass-murderer treatment in this fandom, not [– OW!]"
Nice trick with using the dummy to protect a threatened/Stufluenced canon. (Ike was under a little Stufluence, right?)
-"...rubbing his gloved hand over his nose and noting that it was a decal on skin as smooth as glass."
Also clunky. If the point is to show Backslash's surprise at the (ingenious!) Mii Fighter disguise, try something like "'What am I now?' he asked. He ran a gloved hand over his face, then pulled it back when he realized that his skin had the texture of plate glass. Furthermore, his features felt like decals of some kind."
-"...He may need a monster to clobber that there Kirby, but he wouldn’t act that cruel by any stretch of the imagination."
Why does a character ostensibly from Smash Bros. know a meme relating to the Kirby dub?
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Like Tira said, your writing still suffers from what the pony fandom calls "Lavender unicorn syndrome." It's OK to refer to your characters by name most of the time and by the appropriate pronoun most other times.
-"...Not!Luigi apparently had the Scrappy ability, allowing his Fighting-type moves to hit Ghost-types;..."
Um...no. If he's in the Smash Bros. verse, Backslash should be dealing with the Not!Luigi fight as a Shulk clone, not as a Honedge gijinka. Same goes for the realization about No Guard and Green Missile equating to a Body Slam(by the way, it's much closer to a Skull Bash or Headbutt).
-"The humanized Sword Pokémon slammed into the opposite all, and before he could raise his Monado to defend himself, Not!Luigi had begun pummeling him..."
One, opposite wall. Two, "Not!Luigi began pummeling him...". Three, Backslash has a name (of sorts), so please use it.
-"“Why not just use Amiibos? Surely they’d be harder to distinguish from the actual canons, if only we could get them to work like they do in the games.”"
I like your thinking! Good luck getting them to the PPC, though; amiibo (note the lowercase a) are in pretty high demand throughout World One, as far as I know. Also, given what the crash dummies go through, your solution might be a little too expensive for comfort.
Heh-heh, maybe I should've taken you up on beta-reading this after all. XD Seriously, thank you for doing this mission, and I look forward to your master plan for Falchion and co. -
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First off, I am so sorry that I couldn't get to this and the other concrit responses sooner, as I was working with my family on a yard project and couldn't come online. Anyway, I'll try to be quick with answering your questions before I dash off to campus...
To paraphrase the Wiki, Backslash was an AU version of Shulk as an anthropomorphic Pokemon (and yes, I made up the snippet from his homefic), so he's technically a Honedge gijinka with Shulk's appearance, and therefore wouldn't be any more OP than Falchion would be. One thing I should've noted sooner was that Backslash does not use the actual Monado Arts or Xenoblade attacking moves, but the closest analogs from the Pokemon moves. He can also use only four moves on any occasion: Pursuit, Aerial Ace, Shadow Sneak, and one of his status moves at a time. (And yes, I'm aware of how aggressive he is - He's gonna be toned down via character development in future missions).
Fixed, and fixed. The reason he knows of the Kirby dub? FicPsych. XD I did say he spent a few days there, didn't I?
Good point. I changed it up to say, "Smash Bros. doesn't take type effectiveness or abilities into account" or whatever. Also fixed. And yeah, I should've known that amiibos are crazy rare, so that's changed too.
Thank you for your feedback and concrit, all in all. And you are more than welcome to beta-read the next mission I have for these two! :) -
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Good job on the mission! I have to confess, Whitney reminds me a lot of this Rhymes With Witch strip. (Warnings for gore.)
I really like the vibe that Whitney and Backslash have going as a team. The main issue I had with the mission is that you tend to use overly long epithets for the characters. "The Sword Pokémon-slash-Homs" is a particularly notable one, as you use it multiple times. I know it's a little harder with Backslash, since he doesn't think of himself by that name, but it's a trend that occurs in all your missions, not just this one. Don't be afraid to repeat character names or use pronouns. (Confession - this is the reason I made a pair of agents of different genders, so that it'd be easier to keep track of who's who.) Also, I think you could have incorporated the "Alternate Ending" into the main fic, but that's just me being pedantic.
Overall, I really enjoyed this mission! Maybe I just have weird taste, but it's probably my favorite of your missions. -
Yay, concrit! *nom nom nom* by
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Thank you for the kind words :) I honestly wasn't expecting that much from this mission because this means I now have like what, four RCs now? XD Anyway, Whitney's "action girl" shtick was based on the WFT's Memetic Badass treatment by the fandom in general, but she certainly won't go as overboard as in that comic - like E.V.L., she always goes for the quickest, most efficient means of assassination. Even then she trumps Glitter Girl in that department a bit because she doesn't like using weapons unless required and unless she can bring her Header into play, she often has to rely on her bare hands alone. I'll try to give just as many kills to Backslash, though, and put Whitney in tight spots as often as her partner, so she doesn't look TOO good.
Glad you liked the mission - these two will be back soon, and I'll keep your style advice in mind! I'll have to find another fic for them, though, and aside from IRL stuff I have my main RCs to focus on first as well. My horse and his demon in particular have quite a backlog to sort out... starting with the cleanup job in the wake of a certain Legendary Badfic... -
I'm really fee- sorry. by
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This was really good!
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Ooh, mini-Boarder! Gimme!! (nm) by
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Argh! That's like... five now? by
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OrangeYpshi99, OtangeYoshi99, OrangeyOshhi99, and OramgeYoshi99. So no, four.
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Happy Children's Day! by
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It's 8 minutes until June 2nd, so I'll make this quick:
June 1st, International Children's Day in Poland! Yaay~! And since because you never stop being a child...
*steals Ixi's cakefetti and throws it around*
PARTY TIME!!!
No, wait... it needs something more. Oh! *pulls a lever*
IT'S RAINING TACOS! FROM OUT OF THE SKY! TA-COS~!
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Are those Tacos al Pastor? by
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Because I love those! :D
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Really? I was celebrating agricultural festivals. by
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Or to be specific, Hari Kaamatan on 31st May, and Hari Gawai on 1 June. The former is celebrated in Sabah to signify the start of planting season, while in Sarawak Hari Gawai is for the celebration of the end of the harvesting season.
Now let my orcs carry out a few hundred trays of fried chicken, a hundred earthenware jars of rice wine with straws of bamboo, and other meals for everyone. And bring out some long bamboo poles, we will need to dance Magunatip later. And Olgash, don't swing your ilang around. Go to your dancing group and try to dance in tune.
Kotobian Tadau Tagazo do Kaamatan and Gawai Guru Gerai Nyamai everyone!
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On Superman and geography by
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So I've spent the last two days watching Smallville and am most of the way through season 1. If you haven't seen the show, I would definitely recommend because it is really great and has that fun early Buffy vibe.
But anyways. One thing really gets on my nerves. The show is set in Smallville, Kansas. Every few episodes, characters will go visit Metropolis. The problem is that this show assumes that Metropolis is only a few hours away from Smallville when in DCU canon (at least in the comics) Metropolis is on the New Jersey Coast. Gosh, it just really bothers me. -
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Though if Gotham is in Jersey, I guess that'd make it Newark or Atlantic City.
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Originally, yes. by
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In fact Batman originally operated from NYC. And Superman from Cleveland, Ohio(!?).
And yes, current canon Gotham City's geography is based on Atlantic City.
And weirder? All those cities still exist within the DCU. Yeah, wrap your head around that.
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New York City. by
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Kansas City, Daly City...
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You know precisely what I meant. (nm) by
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That you're ridiculously picky? by
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Fine: the various rivers Avon are named after the Welsh word afon, which means 'river' (or after the root word afon comes from). They are, quite literally, named 'the river River'.
And no, none of them are cities. Just to pre-empt you there.
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It's a running joke between AIS faculty here (Chinook, Wampanoag, and Okanogan) that almost all sacred sites are named things that, in their own tongue, translate to things like "Over there," "by the river," "right here," "a little way past the big rock," and so on.
Does it really matter, if everyone knows what you're talking about? Out here in the Pacific Northwest, you can talk about mountains, but when you say The Mountain, everyone knows perfectly well you meanTahomaRainier. Likewise "The Volcano" is really only ever going to refer to Mt St Helen's. And so on, and so forth - if you happen to live in White Plains, and you say "I'm going into the city tomorrow," literally everyone knows you mean NYC.
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Those aren't actual cities though. (nm) by
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And you're a spoilsport. ^_^ (nm) by
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Agent Polling by
on 2015-06-02 07:32:00 UTC
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So I have been playing around with a few different Agent ideas for a while now and I have two pairs currently in the works, one pair, I do not think has anything inherently wrong with them though, if you disagree let me know. The first prospective team is a Pureblood Sith Apprentice from Star Wars: The Old Republic. The other is a currently low ranked Bleach Soul Reaper. I understand that this might get a bit too powerful, but I think I can make it work.
It is really the other pairing that is giving me concerns and that is why I figured I would poll the community to see what they think. One of them is Cipher-7 which I have introduced a few times previously, but basically an Imperial Agent from SWTOR. Nothing wrong I really see with her. The other one is the question. I was thinking of maybe running with a Pokémon Agent, and what eventually came to mind was a Mewtwo. And that's the question. What do you all think? Can a Mewtwo Agent work? Or is it, by its own nature in its canon, too powerful to be an effective agent? If it makes any of you feel better, I do have a fairly in depth arc in the works for a Mewtwo Agent.
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It depends on its backstory by
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If you're talking about a version from the video games, then Mewtwo is just a powerful Pokemon. There's no specific indication that it necessarily has any powers beyond that. In the anime, however, it's an incredibly powerful psychic, and having a Mewtwo agent would be a little questionable. But power levels aren't really all that important.
The main issue I see with that is its in-universe backstory, though. Where did this Mewtwo come from? Technically it's a unique Pokemon; there isn't really "a" Mewtwo in canon so much as "the" Mewtwo. It's not like a Pikachu or something where the character could theoretically be a "canon bit." So it would have to be a Character Replacement. This can be a good backstory, and also a way to tone down its abilities.
Overall, I guess what I'm wondering is why you want to write these characters. I've seen you talk a lot about their power levels - and they're all pretty powerful - but I feel like you haven't said much about their personalities. While I understand that you don't want to spoil things for us, it'd be nice to have a sense of what drew you to these characters in the first place. Otherwise, it comes off a little like you're only picking them because they're powerful. -
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- Imperial Agent: Main reason, was I felt like the agent would be able to be plugged in well into the PPC and could have interesting interactions.
2. Mewtwo: Came from a discussion some time ago about Pokémon Agents. The question was posed about how/what would cause a Pokémon to willingly go against humans, since the main premise of the canon is humans and Pokémon working together in concert. I thought that at least the backstory of the Mewtwo from the Anime would work well for that. Now while not necessarily a bit character the anime seems to indicate that there are at least two separate Mewtwos in existence, namely the one from the First Movie and then the one from the Genesect film. Both act slightly differently, the latter also has a female voice, and possessed no memory of Ash and Co., thus leading me to believe that it is probably a different Mewtwo. Further there are at least 9 Mewtwos from the games, so I was more so thinking along the lines of a game Mewtwo whose cartridge was reset.
And I was thinking that an interesting story would come from the originally hating humans (or at least its trainer, think max power frustration), to eventually working together in harmony with them, essentially meeting the initial tone of the Pokémon Series. Mewtwo also happens to be probably my favorite Legendary Pokémon and third favorite overall. And seeing that there is already a Lucario in the PPC, in order to have some degree of uniqueness, and considering a Charizard would be slightly more difficult to explain, I thought Mewtwo might be a decent choice. Further, I think a Mewtwo can have a lot of interesting side-stories. Because for me, those seem a lot more interesting to write rather than missions.
3. Sith Warrior: The main impetus for this character comes from the mailbox RP a little while ago. I found the condescension from the majority of Time Lords very entertaining. And I was thinking, "What might clash well with the entire race?" So I thought about for a while and came up with a race from my own personal favorite canon, Star Wars. Sith Purebloods, basically think anyone who is not a Sith Pureblood is trash, especially if they cannot manipulate the Force. And as seen in SWTOR even if one does have the ability to manipulate the Force there is still a good chance they will still think of non-Purebloods as inferior. So I thought that a Sith Pureblood would be a very nice foil to the majority of the PPC's Time Lord Agents.
Further, I like to challenge myself when I write, and I have not previously ever written a character who does things for the Evulz. And so I wanted to give myself a challenge, so a Sith seemed like a good way to do it. I also think that he will work well as a foil to my final agent.
4. Soul Reaper: Originally I had decided that if I was going to write a character like the Sith, I would need an agent who can stand up to him, restrain his worst instincts and the like. A Jedi is the obvious choice, but that's why I decided against it. Too obvious, and frankly, if they were working together by the end of it, one would almost certainly end up killing the other. So I wanted to think of something else, and I figured that a Soul Reaper could work. See the way I see it, since the Zanpakuto is an extension/manifestation of the Soul Reaper's Soul, it is pretty hardy, and as such based around the kind of things that a Zanpakuto can take before breaking, I think it is within reason to suggest that it can resist a Lightsaber in combat if need be.
That allows the Soul Reaper to intervene if the Sith tries to attack someone. Further, I see a lot of interesting stories that I can write about this Soul Reaper. Namely I see a whole section where he finally will achieve Bankai. Further since I see him entering the PPC some ponit prior to at least the 1000 Year Blood War Arc, he will have a lot of interesting reactions once he discovers the weekly releases of Bleach and more importantly once he learns about things that happen during that arc.
Does that help? I only mention power levels in the OP like I did because that is what I am concerned about. It seems to me that for all intents and purposes, that once a character hits a certain power level, they essentially become per-se invalid. And I am just trying to ensure my prospective agents do not hit that level. But suffice it to say, I have interesting story arcs already vaguely sketched for each one.
- Imperial Agent: Main reason, was I felt like the agent would be able to be plugged in well into the PPC and could have interesting interactions.
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Re: Short Answers by
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With regards to the Mewtwo, I think you make a good point, but I'm still a little dubious about using such a rare Pokémon. I'll confess that part of my motivation is my interest in Pokémon mythology, under which Mewtwo could qualify as semi-divine. What about an Alakazam or something? Then you would have the same feel of a highly powerful and intelligent Psychic-type, but without bordering on being Speshul. I can see lots of reasons for a Pokémon to not be fond of humans; abusive trainers aren't unheard-of, after all. Or maybe it was close to its trainer, who then released it after being pressured to by Team Plasma? Or if it's from a game cartridge that was reset, there's no reason a non-Mewtwo Pokémon wouldn't feel bitter about that.
Honestly, as for the Sith Warrior, I'm not sure an agent who can only be stopped from killing people by their partner is the best choice. An arrogant, evil agent is fine, even a potentially murderous one. But if they can't restrain themselves then frankly they start to fall into the Stupid Evil trap. I'm not saying it can't be done well, but without seeing it in action I'm a little dubious.
Sorry if this comes off as overly bossy. I'm not a Permission Giver, so it's not like you have to take my advice or anything. Those are just some issues I see with the concepts.
On a side note, if you're still looking for betas when you're ready to submit your Permission Request, I'd be more than willing to help out with that. -
I am oversimplifying it a bit by
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As for Mewtwo, it really comes down to more or less which Pokémon I like and do not. It was never really about power per-se, it was that as I said, Mewtwo is one of my favorite Pokémon. As I said Lucario has been done, Charizard does not seem like it would fit quite as well, Gyarados would need to be in a human disguise almost exclusively, Gallade is a possibility, though there is a Gardevoir already in the PPC. Haxorus might be possible. But see, I am also looking for something that can communicate without the need for a translator with at least its partner, i.e., either in English naturally or through telepathic communications. And the Pokémon that can do that are heavily limited. But ultimately it is irrelevant for now, because I'm focusing on the second pair for now.
As to the Sith Warrior, I oversimplified it. What I am really going for is someone who is basically a true Sith. His anger and hatred are all very near the surface, and it does not take much to set him off, hence the need for a "control" partner, one who can stand in and take the brunt of the Sith's rage, preventing it from spilling out. But in most cases he really does not attack most things on sight, for much the same reason most people do not crush a stray ant. Does that clear it up a bit better?
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Canon Sues. by
on 2015-06-02 12:25:00 UTC
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So, if a fanfic author writes a crossover, and they bring a canon Sue into a continuum that previously didn't have one, and she bends that canon as she would her own- is that a charge?
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That's a good question by
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Personally, I would charge for, i.e., having Bella Swan hook up with Castiel from Supernatural and get turned into an angel (and yes, this has actually happened), even though it's perfectly in-character for her. If they violate the canon they're being crossed with or cause those characters to be OOC, it's a charge.
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Oh dear. by
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I have to admit, that is pretty in-character for her.
Thanks! I was very curious; I've never seen a crossover like that, but I thought it'd be good to know.
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Artificial Stupidity by
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If an Agent came from a continuum that had a bit of a problem with this sort of thing,(cough The Sims cough) would they still make a few irrational bizarre choices? Like burning dinner, then because there is a book on the table going outside the RC to eat?
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Not exactly an example... by
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But I kind of plan on doing something similar with Aaron. Basically, he can put things in his inventory, which causes them to disappear from sight. Unfortunately, he can't access it outside of HQ or his home continuum (in part because his disguise covers his Pipboy). As far as his partner's concerned, this is some kind of strange, and potentially incredibly useful, magic; as far as he's concerned, it's perfectly normal. He also baffles her with his ability to effortlessly haul around 200+ pounds of gear and actually enjoy Cafeteria food (at least it's radiation-free).
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If it'd be funny or advance the story, yes. If not, you can hand wave it away.
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That could be pretty funny by
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You just have to remember that the character's actions make perfect sense to them. An example:
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Oh yes, I like it. ^. ^ by
on 2015-06-02 15:00:00 UTC
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... Hey July! Do you still have that Sims game with all the agent-Sims in it?
Man, I miss the Sims and their ridiculous shenanigans. I just do not have the time to sink into it. {= ( Though it might possibly be worth having just for the character creator and house-building. I wouldn't have to play, as such...
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That is a computer ago, unfortunately by
on 2015-06-02 15:56:00 UTC
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But I do have a more recent one and I may well consider doing it with the Sims 3 once more and see what madness happens with the story progression mod I have installed....
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I didn't know I needed this until now. (nm) by
on 2015-06-02 14:41:00 UTC
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Gaia's avatar builder is up and running! by
on 2015-06-02 15:24:00 UTC
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It looks like it's going to be a Gaia-only thing, alas, but I gave it a trial run (i.e. I recreated Nume's avatar) and everything looks pretty good. There's no sort-by-color button, but you can use multiple search terms to look for stuff like "green glasses" or whatever. Plus, you can view the character in both genders and from all angles, both standing and kneeling, which is kinda cool.
If you want a Gaia-style avatar, but don't feel like making a Gaia account, I will take requests. Useful information includes hair color and style, eye color and shape, general expression, skin tone, clothes style/colors, additional stuff like glasses, jewelry, tattoos, scars, horns, wings, etc., and any potential handheld objects that symbolize what they're all about. I can't promise how quickly I'll be able to fulfill them—the next couple of weeks I know I'm going to be pretty busyand hopefully publishing some things—but I'll do my best. I like making these guys. ^_^
Apologies to Alleb for bumping her lovely poem off the front page to make this announcement. {= (
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I recognise that this might be just me, but... by
on 2015-06-02 23:58:00 UTC
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I find the UI on the Gaia version clunky and distasteful, and while I like the posing pics, I vastly preferred Tektek's use of buttons for the categories.
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Nah, I'm with you by
on 2015-06-04 16:42:00 UTC
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My browser hates Gaia, and it takes forever to load anything. And without being able to sort by color, it takes forever to go through the hair and eye options. It's nice to know there's a replacement, but it just doesn't work for me as well as Tektek did. I'll probably just stick with my anime-style images.
Although, it is nice to have my suspicions vindicated that Gaia was getting ready to come out with their own. Some research I did suggested that there were other issues between them and Tektek, but I'd bet that was one of the factors motivating the C&D. -
I knew that account I made wasn't useless! by
on 2015-06-02 17:34:00 UTC
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I guess I no longer have any excuses not to work on my Permission request... Oh, wait. Exams. Forgot about those.
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I have a request, but... by
on 2015-06-02 16:05:00 UTC
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Can I send it via e-mail? It's fairly spoilery for my agents, and I have Plans for them.
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Yep, e-mail is fine. by
on 2015-06-02 19:36:00 UTC
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My address is on my wiki user page, if you need it.
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I shall accept the apology.. by
on 2015-06-02 15:45:00 UTC
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If you tell me what a Gaia-style avatar is! ^_^ Just kidding, I accept it anyway- and I'm glad you liked my poem!
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See: Most agent images. by
on 2015-06-03 16:30:00 UTC
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For my agents, at least. See Also my above reply to hS in this thread. {= )
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on 2015-06-02 15:45:00 UTC
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How many angles is that, exactly?
Yes, I'm wondering if it's possible to make semi-comics with them now.
Actually, that's been possible all along, but a wider range of options would be awesome.
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Here, take a look. by
on 2015-06-03 16:26:00 UTC
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Hopefully this is the right link.
I note a slight difference in either eye or glasses placement on the male avatar, but otherwise all is well. I do agree with Scapegrace that this interface isn't as nice as TekTek's, but it works.
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Anyone up for a PPC Guild? *g* (nm) by
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I'd join. by
on 2015-06-03 16:31:00 UTC
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I wouldn't DO much, probably, but my name would be on the membership roster. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Names. by
on 2015-06-02 19:11:00 UTC
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Scrolling through this Board, I see quite a few interesting and peculiar names, and I'd like to know two things: one, why was that particular name chosen? Two, how did you come to think of it?
To start off, my name comes from a trilogy called The Door Within. An Alleb Knight in the particular world of that series, the Realm (which is technically a mirror of our world), is a person who has sworn to follow King Elium- God. It's a Christian series, rather obviously. Anyway, that's where my name came from. I'd love to learn about yours! -
Because of another username and its misspellings. by
on 2015-06-07 04:15:00 UTC
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Namely: iomccoy. Then I'd get called iom, and that got typo'd to ion. And then things like ion coy, so obviously I had to be a shy ion, right? ^_^
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I'm a bird made of knives. Why do you ask? by
on 2015-06-04 14:39:00 UTC
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XD In all seriousness, though, Skarmory comes from Pokemon Silver; I haven't played ANY of the main Pokemon games, alas, but the Gold/Silver generation is my favorite aesthetically, and carries a lot of damn good memories due to The Power Of One being a big part of my childhood. And yeah, Skarmory is obviously my favorite Pokemon.
My Boarder name is also the same as my Tumblr username. I would've used FawkesTheSkarmory, my first dA account name, but it isn't as iconic and probably wouldn't make as much sense. -
Well... by
on 2015-06-04 08:26:00 UTC
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That's just what little car enthusiast me came up with many, many years ago both as a nickname and the name of his self-insert characters.
A bit silly, but I never bothered changing and probably never will.
(The only exception about using that so-far is League of Legends - I go by TurboAvenger in-game. Probably just as silly, but I had to come up with a different name than my usual.)
P.S. If there's any LoL-playing Boarder, I suggest against adding me as a friend in that game. I'm bad at it. Hopelessly so. -
It's got a nice ring to it! (nm) by
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It's a rather silly story, really. by
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I used to frequent a gaming client called Byond back in my RP days, way in back the yonder times of three years ago. There was one game in particular called Mitadake High (every bit as anime as it sounds) which I used to play almost daily. It was great fun, but the gender of the character you played as was linked to your profile and I liked a little bit of variety.
So, long story short, came up with a female profile which I called Doureimi (phonetically doe-ray-mee, because this was during my musical phase), then since everyone I knew had at least three accounts, I went ahead and gave her a male twin, Fasoula (fah-soe-lah) whose purpose turned out to be gathering digital dust. I decided a couple years later, though, that I liked the sound of the name and made it my all-purpose internet name.
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Ha! by
on 2015-06-04 01:28:00 UTC
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I hadn't realized your name was pronounced like that- I sort of thought of it sounding like some bone in the arm, I think. I mostly just skirted over precise pronunciation. That's interesting though; I like it! Hiding little things in names is always fun.
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Complex reasons by
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Hieronymus – deliberately misspelled Anonymous, because I wouldn’t tell my real name on the internet.
Hieronymus – a.k.a. Saint Jerome, because I’m trying to be a decent person, although I will never reach saintly levels. Also, I may have misinterpreted "ascetic" as "hermit", and I’m not a sociable person.
Hieronymus – a.k.a Jerome of Prague (burned for heresy at the Council of Constance), because my critical mind doesn’t take anything for granted.
(Wikipedia has many more of these guys, but when I checked with an old printed lexicon whether the name would be suitable, I found only these two, and I felt that combined they fit may personality quite well.)
Graubart – just look at me (it translates to "grey beard"). I won’t hide the facts that I’m old, male and German.
Also, I like to share my initials with Hermione Granger.
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Fascinating! by
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I'd say yours is the most involved so far- I like it!
Who WOULDN'T want to share her initials? - Say, HG... by on 2015-06-03 21:41:00 UTC Link to this
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Re: Names by
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Mine is a reference to to things: First off, I'm a soprano (except I'm a lyric, not a dramatic), and secondly I have a tendency to be very dramatic. Tawaki can testify to that.
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It makes for a good name! (nm) by
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dA username and the title of an awesome book. by
on 2015-06-03 15:40:00 UTC
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I picked it because it meant one less username to remember, honestly.
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I saw the movie posters, didn't know it was a book. (nm) by
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The "lit" part stands for literature, by
on 2015-06-03 14:47:00 UTC
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my main medium of interest.
The "doctor" part comes from my real initials: D. T. R. If you squint, they sort of spell out "doctor." I actually came up with the doctor thing when I was very young, as a secret representation of myself in my mind. Years later, when I started using the internet and needed a name of anonymity, I incorporated my old secret name into my new screen name. -
Huh, that's really neat! (nm) by
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I just like how the word sounds. =] by
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Though my original name was wobblestheclown, and that has a little more story attached to it. Or at least growing on it, like vines on an old building that the architect totally fouled up.
See, I love clowns. Always have. I'm not circus people, don't get me wrong, I stay in one place and don't keep animals in a tiny locked room in between parading them in front of gawping misborn with wits drowning in candyfloss. But a clown is different. Just, as a concept, a clown is different. Someone has devoted their adult life to making people smile, to making a little child's day brighter. That takes... that takes the kind of person I can respect. It is an expression of love for one's fellow man that is without peer, at least in my book. It is a gift that you can give when you have nothing.
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That's so sweet :') (nm) by
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That's incredibly inspiring. (nm) by
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Hm. by
on 2015-06-03 10:49:00 UTC
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'Kaitlyn' was my anonymous throwaway for reviews on FF.N. Since this was a fandom-y space, and I didn't expect to stick around, I used Kaitlyn.
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Hehe, yes XD (nm) by
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Simple story. by
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A friend of mine requested OCs for a story when I was relatively naive as far as fanfiction goes. I wracked my brains and came up with a centaur named 'Kitty Eden'. It was accepted into the story, and I enjoyed reading the author's portrayal of the character so much that she snuck into some of my stories, as a background character. Somehow, I started using Kitty as a screen name instead of my real name- which is, of course, ▋▋▋▋▋. And it ties in nicely with my actual username, which is 'TheBigCat'. And here I am now!
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Cool! I found your name quite interesting when I saw it. (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 13:18:00 UTC
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Quenya. by
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I came up with my name when I needed my first email address; it's actually only the second name I ever used on the internet (and the first was a throwaway). This was late 2002 (I actually got an email address to talk about The Two Towers during the Christmas holiday!), and I'd just read the Silmarillion - so I combed the Index for two words to put together. 'Shadow' and 'Eagle' stuck out, so Huinesoron I became.
hS
^^^^ Oh, that thing? That's a Latin-alphabet representation of my Tengwar monogram, which looks like this:
The 'S' (silme is larger than the 'h' (hyarmen), so that's how I write it in English, too. (The silme is also backwards, but writing 'Zh' would be a bit TOO obscure.) ~hS -
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By the way, how is your name pronounced?
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'Aitch-Ess'. ^_~ by
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Nah, I wasn't thinking about pronunciation when I constructed it, so it's a bit awkward. The Quenya pronunciation would be 'hween-ay-SORE-on', but 'HWEEN-ay-sor-on' is fine too.
Though of course writing 'hui' as 'hwee' isn't entirely accura- [Is bundled offstage]
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Eheh, pronunciation is funny. by
on 2015-06-03 14:14:00 UTC
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I pronounce it 'huy-NEH-soron'.
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Good to know! by
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I was pronouncing it "hew-en-es-Sauron," and was entirely unsure about it. Thanks!
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I'm pretty sure... by
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... the 'ui' is a diphthong. But you've made me paranoid now. [Checks]
Yep, it is, so the two vowels fall in the same syllable (pronounce it how you will). And it's definitely sore-on, not sour-on (which is how 'Sauron' is said).
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I haven't said it out loud; by
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Except to try to pronounce it, so you're good! And I often pronounce Sauron as sore-on, but not always.
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Since we're talking about your name... by
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I have a question: how do you say it in Sindarin?
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Good question! by
on 2015-06-03 12:07:00 UTC
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I don't think there's a direct Sindarin cognate for Q. huine, so I'll have to pick another one. Hrm... well, 'huine' is sometimes used as 'the Shadow' (ie, Sauron'), and so is S. 'dúath'. So how about Dúathoron? I could live with that. Not a lot easier to say than 'Huinesoron', though!
The Cirth 'Dúathoron' monogram looks pretty good, too:hSThD
(PS: And in Telerin Quenya, it's Fuinethoron. I know that one off the top of my head.
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All three are mouthfuls, so I think I'll stick to 'hS'.
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Would you prefer Adunaic? by
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I can be Nâlonarâk if you want. ;)
~NN
(The good thing about my name is that both eagles and the Shadow are a recurring theme in Tolkien's work. The words show up in most of his languages. Heck, I can even approximate it as 'Búrzgûl', 'dark wraith', in the Black Speech... though I'd rather not do so! ~hS) -
Huh... Now you made me wonder... by
on 2015-06-03 20:52:00 UTC
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...how my name would be in other languages of Arda...
I have an idea of how might it be in Quenya, but I'm quite sure that I am wrong. =P
In Dovahzul from The Elder Scrolls, my name would be something along the lines of Fahliilnik.
If you're interested, the closest canon aproximation I could come up for yours was Vokunviing, (vo- = Negative prefix) + (kun = light) + (viing = wing) = "Unlight Wing", "Shadow Wing". The name is like that because, well, there's no canon word for 'eagle' in Dovahzul and names, like shouts, must always be in three syllables, because, according to lore, in this language words have power, and names can also be shouted, in which case, it serves to call upon the wielder of that name, who if is a dovah, a dragon, will take it as a challenge. So the closest monosyllabic thing I could come up with, was viing, 'wing'.
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on 2015-06-04 09:34:00 UTC
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But the question is, am I a dragon? I've got 'wing' in my name... ^^
As for your name... oh, dear. I'm afraid I have to break it to you that your name is a horrible linguistic mashup: Edhel is Sindarin, but istar... is Quenya. The Sindarin would be ithron. (This means you're on the same level as... oh, 'television'? That's a Greek-Latin mashup.
So your name would be either Edhelithron in Sindarin or Eldastar in Quenya (Elda + istar; could also be 'Eldistar', but that doesn't have a good lámatyávë, the 'sound-taste' by which the Eldar selected their names).
As for Adunaic, there are two words meaning 'wizard', so you can have either Nimirzigûr or Nimirsapthân. I think the former sounds better (and isn't beleagured by the pronunciation issue of the latter - the 'p' is often said as an 'f'), but zigûr is the word used of Sauron, so you may disagree. ^^
Attested Telerin Quenya is a bit thin on the ground, but we know the first element would be 'Ello-'; you can either assume 'istar' is still valid, or go for the attested word 'Bala', meaning 'Vala' (a bit of an upgrade!). 'Ellobala' sounds a bit silly, though, frankly. I think you'd go with 'Ellistar', which is pretty nice.
In the Black Speech, we need to drop into cultural translation: what's the equivalent of an Elf to Sauron? Has to be an orc. So you can be Urukûl or Urugûl (both 'Orc-wraith').
And, purely because I can: the word 'Eldar/Edhel' comes from 'stars' originally, and it just so happens that there is a Valarin word for the (star-studded) Dome of the Heavens. Since there is also a word for 'ainu' (obviously, since they're the ones speaking it)...
... you can be Delgûmâyanûz, and hobnob with Mânawenûz and company. ^_^
hS
(The closest I can get to my name in Valarin is something like - take a deep breath - Aþâradušamanûðân, '(appointed>) messenger marred'. I... don't think I'll be using that. ~hS) -
Sadly no. Krosis! by
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You must understand, Vokunviing of the Vahlokke do Mein-Tiid-Ven, Protectors of the Plot Continuum, that being named like a dov, does not make you one of the dovah. You are still counted among the fahliil, elvenkind. Also, you must know that the lokraan, birds, also have wings. Though, if have gone in adventure within Keizaal, Skyrim, then I must greet you, Dovahkiin...
Okay, let's leave the dragon grammar behind. I was completely aware of the bilingual nature of my name, and I have been for years, is just that I grew very attached to it. XD Why's that bad? Well, I came up with it when I was sixteen and absolutely uninformed. -
Conlang am cool. by
on 2015-06-04 10:43:00 UTC
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But when you talk about ainu, well, my mind goes... somewhere else. Specifically Hokkaido. =]
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I think I do. by
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Nâlonarâk is less of a mouthful than the others.
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Tomorrow. by
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I'm going to be away from my computer for the rest of today, so I decided to wait until I could monitor the thread properly. Don't worry - there's a lot planned for this one. ^_^
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'Aitch-Ess, I have a Plort question for you by
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Is there a Deleterius equivalent in there? If so, what is it?
(If not, yes, I'll probably create one. I believe that's allowed?)
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(ie, the Cyclopaedia:) "De Litarios - Nation, island. An ally of Plort in the wars against the Marizu, De Litarios was destroyed by a violent volcanic eruption."
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Thanks muchly. by
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Kind of amused by Ydyff, at least in terms of the name. I'm also now very tempted to make some sort of Diaspora equivalent from which people came to Ydyff, leaving mostly behind the language of that land...
No, I have no plans whatsoever to use Yiddish words in anything at all, why would you ask that? I never use Yiddish. I don't even know what it is.
*walks away, whistling innocently*
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I was supposed to make my username into a freeuse character. by
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But I never get around to it.
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What would the character have been like? (nm) by
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A lord of Orcs selling textiles. by
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He doesn't like conquering, the Orcs chose him over some Orcs to prevent internal squabbling, and he is rather business-minded. He came from the Seventh Age to get more money by selling clothes at a boutique to be opened in the PPC headquarters complex, orsomething.
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Beautiful. (nm) by
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It was a dark and stormy night... by
on 2015-06-03 00:18:00 UTC
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...And I was trying to make a seventeenth account on an online game I don't quite remember. I needed that many accounts because I kept forgetting my information. Anyways, I tried to make my screen name, and everything was taken. So I just came up with the single most random, memorable thing I could. Ratbrainbasher is usually what I use for things I don't mind being unsecured, because it lets people find me easily across games and forums. I think I got the inspiration from an Andy Griffiths book I grabbed off the shelf when I was pretending to work. It was a demented, crude, yet funny choose your own adventure book, and part of it involved a rat, you and a rolling pin. I don't know why I named myself after that.
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Well, by
on 2015-06-03 00:43:00 UTC
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it's definitely distinctive.
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That it is. (nm) by
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It's from a character I was making when I found the PPC. by
on 2015-06-03 00:01:00 UTC
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I saw that not many people did did multi-dimensional beings very well, especially in fanfic. I wanted to have a crack at it, so I did what I usually do when making a character: find archetypes. I flesh them out later, but I like to see how others have handled certain character types to get some inspiration. While browsing TV tropes for multi-dimensional organisations, I came across the PPC article. I was intrigued, and decided to check it out for myself. Because I was looking for how to make a World-Jumper at the time, I decided to call myself such. Since then, I have used it for many other websites, and has become my semi-official username.
And, before you ask, no. I have not written a single thing with him yet. I've been trying to, but I just can't work it out. One of these days... -
Hey! I used a character like that in the Mailbox RP! by
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With the added bonus of being a Fourth Wall Breaker!
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Now that's a familiar concept to me... by
on 2015-06-03 00:35:00 UTC
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Granted, my idea was based on someone else's OC going off and taking on a Canon Run all on their own...
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You won't believe it, it's kinda amazing. by
on 2015-06-03 00:49:00 UTC
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You ready?
Jumper.
I know, super clever, right?
Actually, he would have a number of names, depending on the world hes in at the time. Jumper is just the default. For example, if he were in Middle Earth, he would be called something like "forest walker" (for the multiverse forest found in Narnia) or "Star wanderer." Or, if in Tamriel, Rovaniik (Dova for Wanderer)
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Capitarda. by
on 2015-06-03 09:29:00 UTC
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That's a gerund 'jumping', with of course 'arda' meaning 'bounded realm'.
You can also have Capimarda, with 'jumps' rather than 'jumping', giving '(one who) jumps worldishly'.
Ardavanta is (one who) walks the world. Or there's Imbimar, 'between worlds'. That's nice and short, and probably sounds best of all of them. It can also be translated 'world of valleys', or taken as a long form of Imbar, 'solar system'.
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But of course, there's very few valid reasons to use Quenya, so let's look at Sindarin. We can actually create exact cognates for the best choices above (because 'leap' is attested in both languages).
Cabelerdhyn means '(one who is) jumping worlds'. Imerdhyn is 'between worlds/worlds of valleys' again, and can also be read as 'I (am) worlds'.
I'd probably go with 'Imbimar' and 'Imerdhyn', myself. The emphasis in both is on the second syllable (Im-BIH-mar, Im-ER-thin), and 'Imerdhyn' has a bonus advantage of sounding suspiciously like a name for Merlin...
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Ooh, those are nice. by
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I like them. I like the sound of Imbimar, though Capimarda has a certain ring to it. I will definitely put those to some use.
You know.
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XD Niice. by
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Would "Nautilus" ever be one of his names, perchance?
I think it means "traveler" in Latin. ^^; -
Actually Jingles... by
on 2015-06-03 11:41:00 UTC
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'Nautilus' is the Latinate form of ναυτίλος, which is Greek for 'sailor'.
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Yeah, that's what I thought it was. XD 'Pologies. (nm) by
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Still, it's a really cool idea! by
on 2015-06-03 00:13:00 UTC
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If you ever do write something with him, let me know!
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So it's just a coincidence... by
on 2015-06-02 22:59:00 UTC
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...that your username is "Bella" backwards? That's a relief. :-p
Mine comes from Pokémon... in a rather obscure way. Y'see, when I was young and stupid, I signed up for my first ever forum, with the username "ManaphyLv100". About five minutes later, I realised that that was a stupid name, but I couldn't change it.
Instead, I had to come up with something... subtler. Something cool enough for 13-year-old me. Now, Manaphy's a Seafaring Pokémon, which makes it a seafarer. 'This is genius!' I thought. And it stuck, because I'm terribly bad at making new names. -
Definitely a coincidence! by
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Funny enough, Iximaz thought of the same thing.
But no, that's not it! I just really like The Door Within.
Hey, I think it's cool! I love seafaring stories. -
Ah yes, an origin story by
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Superfluity means an over abundance.
I found this word when I was trying to find the term for a group of nuns. I was looking for something similar to the names for groups of animals i.e.: murder of crows, school of fish, etc. Eventually I came upon Superfluity from this book written about two hundred years ago in England that was basically a book about the names of groups of things.
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Huh, cool! by
on 2015-06-02 22:57:00 UTC
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You probably know, but a group of vultures is called a committee. :D
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Mine's just my initials. ^^; by
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Though some of my other monikers have more interesting histories. :P
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I love the word "moniker" by
on 2015-06-02 22:58:00 UTC
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Although I always try to put a c in there..
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XD Some words cross-contaminate: it happens. (nm) by
on 2015-06-02 23:06:00 UTC
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Well.... by
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I was sixteen, dumb, and I was obssessed with The Lord of the Rings, specially with Elves and Wizards... So, that's why: "Edhel + Istar = Edhelistar". And I use it for everything, so if you have seen this username somewhere else, quite likely it's me.
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Elves and Wizards are cool! (nm) by
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Of course they are! by
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But you see, I initially came with that name, for a Self-Insert OC, and at that time I believed that the Eldar could become Istari, in fact the original full name was Edhelistar The Green (which I recently changed to the slightly more canon Edhelistar Calendir), so it was pretty much a Standard Sixth Wizard... Wait a minute... There's an alternate version of Arda were the Eldar can totally be wizards!
By the Valar! I know how to fix the character! I'll be right back, I will be creating yet another character. -
Re: Names. by
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My real name is a tree name and I like Ents. Baroom is an approximate transcription of an Ent-noise. That and it's easier to type/remember than Laurelindorenan.
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Very true. (nm) by
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Young me was kinda stupid. by
on 2015-06-02 21:15:00 UTC
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I was 10, and used mostly the same username and password for everything. Both were based on my name, and I used them for a while. It was secure, though, because I sometimes swapped the username and password! (Yeah, I'm not kidding when I said I was dumb.)
At this point, I was playing lots of browser-based games, in which I mostly used the aforementioned username and password (except for Club Penguin, where I had to use a different username for some reason I don't quite remember). I eventually came across one in particular: it claimed to be "the most interactive web game", and was a "real-life-based" penguin simulator. Didn't know that penguins had guns, industry, stock markets and slave labour.
So, I naturally found it to be the most awesome thing ever. However, I didn't pick my usual username for... Some reason. I think it might have been because I wanted to do some RP and decided an all-letter name was better for that, but I'm not really sure. So, I picked 'domirossi'. Also based on my name, but I was still stupid.
I used that site for around two years, and then I got tired of it and deleted my account. (Incidentally, I've just checked it and it's still a thing! There's no one on there anymore, though.) However, I had started to use this name for some other games, and it eventually became my "use-it-everywhere" username. The only times I don't use it are when I don't want people I know to find it (such as my Tumblr account). -
Slave.. labor? by
on 2015-06-02 23:02:00 UTC
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Penguins? That's odd. Alleb is also my "everywhere" name.
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Oh, it's this thread again. by
on 2015-06-02 20:47:00 UTC
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I remember at least two with the same premise.
Anyway - this particular handle comes from the forgettable and ultimately useless Yu-Gi-Oh! card Des Dendle.
Funny story - at least some people first thought I was a girl. Probably has to do with the 'elle' suffix. -
I apologize for my unoriginal thread, by
on 2015-06-02 23:05:00 UTC
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I was just very curious. I've been pronouncing your name in my head with a stressed first syllable- is that correct?
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It's fine. by
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Especially considering that a bunch of people joined since the last one.
Anyway, no, you pronounce it with the stress on the last syllable - des-den-DELLE. -
Got it; thank ya! (nm) by
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Mine? Oh, this will be rich... by
on 2015-06-02 20:35:00 UTC
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I've never had a proper nickname. Never. Not in school, high school, college, nothing. And, since my circle of friends was so heavily restricted, I've never socialized with other enough to earn me any type of name.
For a long time, I was using a combination of my first and last name, which resulted in MacBud. Over the course of time, it started sounding stupid so I've decided to use the Joker (I still do, when at conventions).
And about the current one? Well Matt, or 'Matthias' is the closest English equivalent of my actual name - Maciej (pronounced Mat-yey). And Cipher is because of "Gravity Falls" and the character, Bill Cipher. I don't know why I've decided on this, I don't even particularly like Bill, the whole concept just seemed to work. -
It sounds cool! by
on 2015-06-02 23:06:00 UTC
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And there's actually a character in The Door Within called Matthias! Fancy that!
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Well, my current username... by
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Comes from when I was twelve and a huge Runescape addict. I wanted my character to have a normal name, not 'CamelotOrc' (Yes, that was my first's name. Yes, I still remember that. Shut up.), but the filters were sneaky little things and I played around with letters for a bit before settling on Iximaz. After a while, I just started adopting it as my internet name.
My first name on here was RinaAndRanda (Rina), which should be fairly self-explanatory. After the Randa half lost interest in missions, I decided to pick up a different name and went with this. -
Oh, Runescape. That's a blast from the past. by
on 2015-06-03 00:20:00 UTC
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My father and I would play it often back around middle school. I played a warrior named Be0w01f, and I wanted to be a barbarian! I mean, I was only doing f2p at the time, but I would upgrade some day! My father, his character was, I kid you not, Bimbett. A beautiful blonde woman (though occasional redhead, just to mix things up) who totally trolled guys into giving her things. He was one of those guys. Not creeping or anything, just taking advantage of the inherent sexism of the players.
I remember, he became friends with this one girl (they were guild mates before there were official guilds) and she was very upset one time. Turns out, her "boyfriend," who she only interacted with in the game, was breaking up with her. Never met, never saw each other's face, just typed text onto a box. My father reminded her that their relationship was not really real. How, you may ask? Well, he reminded her that all players were just, and I quote, "Pixelated Pixies." We laughed so hard together over that phrase. He played up that being a bimbo so hard. It was great.
...Man, brb, checking to see if our accounts still work. -
Now I wanna see if mine still works. by
on 2015-06-03 00:42:00 UTC
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...or if I can even still get on, for that matter. I dunno if I can remember my password! XD
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And now I've gone and made myself sad. by
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I did, in fact, manage to remember my username and password... Only to find out Iximaz has been deleted and the name is unavailable for remaking a character. Good-bye, my level 64 archer. You gave me many hours of fun, not to mention my username.
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Same here. :( by
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Oh well. I'm not much into MMOs anymore anyway. Still, it would have been nice.
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Runescape! by
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I loved that game.
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Mine happens to be my gamer tag by
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Funny story though, it was not my original tag, one day I was having a discussion and one of the players started going off on a crazy conspiracy theory rant, and so I decided to act like a hyper-advanced government AI and changed the name, I liked it and kept it. I was also going for something that sounded a bit pretentious.
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It's fun, by
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although for some reason I keep thinking there's a j in there..
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I... just like turtles, actually. (nm) by
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Just as good a reason as any! (nm) by
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Well... Let my friend tell you something by
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This has to be the greatest fan art ever. by
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Hah! Oh, by the way, Ixi... by
on 2015-06-02 22:27:00 UTC
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What made you use Rinmaru maker? :D
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I just liked the images more. (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 00:36:00 UTC
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Well... by
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My name came from an intentional mary sue that I made for Homestuck and I made her God Tier prototyped with a first guardian and in Homestuck, Becquerel, a first guardian, likes irradiated steak.
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Wow, she sounds powerful! by
on 2015-06-02 23:11:00 UTC
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I've never done anything with Homestuck though, so I wouldn't have any reference.
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So it was a parody fic? (nm) by
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No, it was only a concept from one or two years ago, by
on 2015-06-02 19:44:00 UTC
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But I do have a very basic profile of her.
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For me... by
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One: I've always been fascinated by the concept of oblivion, emptiness, nothingness, whatever.
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Not enough thinks have "v" in them. by
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Sometimes I try to think of nothingness- literally nothing at all, ever, but then it hurts my head, so I stop.
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Strange thing is, I've never seen V for Vendetta. (nm) by
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Well, by
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My favorite color is orange, Yoshi is my favorite Mario character, and I added a "99" on in case OrangeYoshi is already taken.
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Fair enough. (nm) by
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All right, show of hands. Who here plays XCOM? by
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Well, get ready for another tour of duty.
Who else here is incredibly hyped for this? I know I am. -
Absolutely. by
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Enemy Unknown and Enemy Within are two of my favorite games. I was even playing a game using PPC agent names for my soldiers, before I accidentally saved over it. While I'm not normally one to get super-hyped about games (I've been burned before by undelivered promises), I can't help but feel a little excited by what's being planned.
I'm curious to know what people think of what is known about the storyline so far. Most of the complaints I've seen online (besides the old-school XCOM fans complaining about how the newer ones were dumbed down) have been regarding this "aliens won the war" angle. Personally, that's one of the things I'm most pleased about. It strikes me as a really interesting concept as well as a useful way of making sure the player has something to build up for. I see it as not undoing the end of the original; it's an alternate universe. (Not to mention it's given me some interesting story ideas for XCOM operative turned PPC agent James Pittman…) -
*raises hand at a speed of Mach Granger* by
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I LOVE the XCOM franchise - to the point where Field Commander McCandless is from one of my Long War runs. Actually, that's a point though. Will the new one feature support from Long War? I bloody hope so, because it made Enemy Unknown and Enemy Within a bajillion times better.
Also, on the trailer:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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It's confirmed to have full mod support... by
on 2015-06-02 23:38:00 UTC
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...through the Steam workshop. If it's not compatible (I know zilch about mods) then someone probably will make it compatible.
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So, a word on Long War. by
on 2015-06-04 00:26:00 UTC
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They're gonna have to do some work to make it fit XCOM 2. New classes are new, which means they're gonna have to be split off, and you'll have to get new assets for all the new stuff, including dedicated grenade launchers seriously why the hell weren't they a thing already. Plus there's an entirely new class about which we know precisely the square root of sod-all, plus there's gonna be changes made to how upgrades work, how promotions work... basically, the core functionality is gonna be very different.
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According to IGN / Kotaku / whatever... by
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...the devs listened extensively to player feedback for Enemy Unknown and Enemy Within. Lots of things that players complained about will be addressed so that's always a plus.
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I quite agree. by
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It's just that when you're doing stuff that's been included in a mod, the legality of proceedings suddenly becomes a loooooot more complicated. The changes made to the base game are (very, very technically, and it's up for considerable debate) the individual modder's IP, and since Valve's paid mods debacle showed up there's actually a little bit of legal precedent to support that idea. This means that you can't really chuck the functionality from Long War and its integrated UI mods and so forth straight into XCOM 2, which means we're stuck with vanilla (oh no what a shame and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth) until the modders do a version of Long War for it.
Please don't take this the wrong way - I am still hella hyped for XCOM 2. I'd just like there to be more Long War because it is a wonderful super-happy Infinite Fun Space. =] -
They'd better. by
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Long War is amazing. If you haven't played Enemy Within with it? PLAY ENEMY WITHIN WITH IT. I cannot stress enough how much better it makes XCOM.
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I might do that for my next playthrough (nm) by
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If you do? Play on Normal. by
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I don't care how many times you've beaten vanilla XCOM on Impossible. Play Long War on Normal, or Classic if you like it rough from a big daddy video game who wields a riding crop upon your smooth, supple gamer body and prepares you with a little soothing lotion for-
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If its half as good as Enemy Unknown... by
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Then it will be a fun game. I will add it to my list of games to get in the near future.
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Does anybody know if "Threshold" is canon? by
on 2015-06-03 00:23:00 UTC
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Because I really hope it's not. For those of you that don't know, it's the Matrix sequels for Star Trek: Voyager. I couldn't find any conclusive evidence that it hasn't been exiled from continuity, but it gets no acknowledgment later on, either, and pretty much everyone involved with producing it wishes it never happened, so I'm not sure if it should be counted as canon or not.
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Is that the one where Paris turns into a lizard? by
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Not sure exactly what you mean by Matrix sequels, I've never seen those movies.
As far as its canon status is concerned, it's never been officially declared non-canon. According to the Agony Booth, it was unofficially declared uncanonical, but I'm not sure that's a particularly reliable source. Apparently there's a line in "Dark Frontier" that supports this.
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I'm doing some stuff involving trek, and I'd really like to pretend this episode never happened. On two other notes, you are mostly correct, as Tom Paris turns into a newt, not a lizard. Same difference, though. As for the Matrix sequels, well, best to pretend those never happened. If you mention them around a Matrix fan, it's said that they grow fur and fangs, and are driven into a rage as they attempt to track down and destroy all known copies of the sequels. But, yeah, I'll just ignore Threshold. I doubt anyone on here would have a problem with that.
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Redwall Minis? by
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So let me get this straight: All Redwall Minis, even ones spawned from Cornflower and Salamandastron, look like Deepcoilers? Is that true of other franchises? That all Minis in one franchise take on the same form, no matter which character or place they spawn from?
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Well, it varies with the continuum. by
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For most continua, yes, all minis are the same.
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Avatar? by
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I didn't find any information on Avatar: The Last Airbender minis.
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It's pretty easy to find. by
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Go here, ctrl+f for "avatar" and you'll find what you're looking for.
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Re: Well, it varies with the continuum. by
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Why do those ones vary?
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Check out the Mini page on the Wiki. They're all explained. (nm) by
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Got it in one. by
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The only exception seems to be for Pokemon, and that's because there've been several OFUs for the continuum. The generally-accepted minis are mini-Missingno.
For another example, Doctor Who/Torchwood. They both have mini-reapers, but the ones from Torchwood can only fly in circles because they're from a spin-off!
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Being one of the Engwar is not pleasant.. by
on 2015-06-03 13:29:00 UTC
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I hate to spam the Board, but my throat is killing me. Do you guys know any homemade remedies for sore throats? Honestly, I've never had one this bad. I just woke up yesterday and swallowing hurt..
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Granny Cipher's Healing Potion by
on 2015-06-03 15:54:00 UTC
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Crush 1 - 2 cloves of garlic into a paste and dissolve it in a glass of warm milk. If you want, you may sweet it with honey.
I know it sounds yucky, but trust me - works like actual magic. Garlic has both anti-bacterial and anti-virus properties. -
That DOES sound rather yucky.. by
on 2015-06-03 18:19:00 UTC
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Again, if I can summon up the will, I might try it. Urk, that doesn't sound good at all.. But thank you. I can't even talk :(
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I've got two. by
on 2015-06-03 15:16:00 UTC
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1) Dissolve half a teaspoon of salt in one cup of salt water and gargle. Repeat several times per day. This works wonders for me whenever I get a really bad cold.
2) Drink iced water. Not only does it feel good on the throat it also keeps you hydrated.
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Thanks! by
on 2015-06-03 15:37:00 UTC
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I never really learned how to gargle, but I'll try to summon up the will to get the water- I really need more fluids. Man, I hate being sick :(
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I'll let Captain Picard do the speaking. by
on 2015-06-03 13:41:00 UTC
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Tea, Earl Grey, hot. Preferably with honey. However, if it persists for more than a couple of days and/or is accompanied with other symptoms you should consider going to a doctor.
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Any tea with honey, really. by
on 2015-06-03 16:00:00 UTC
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You can also add lemon, and whiskey if you're okay with alcohol. (I don't drink for reasons of family history, but I've been known to drop a capfull in my tea for flavor on occasion. Also, it kills germs!) I prefer regular ol' black tea for this sort of thing, myself. Anything good and strong that can stand up to the other flavors, like an Assam or Ceylon
or Lipton.
If you want to try the herbal route, I'm a big fan of Yogi's Throat Comfort tea. The licorice makes it naturally sweet, and it just feels nice going down. You can probably find it in the tea or specialty goods section of your local megamart.
Feel better soon!
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Thanks! by
on 2015-06-03 20:51:00 UTC
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I didn't have any Earl Grey, but I tried it with black tea. It helped! That comfort tea sounds nice.. Thank you!
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Thankee, Picard. by
on 2015-06-03 13:45:00 UTC
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If I do not already have some, I shall look into procuring it- thanks!
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War. War never changes. by
on 2015-06-03 15:49:00 UTC
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The Fallout 4 teaser (with actual engine footage!) has been released. Another of my favorite series is getting a new entry. Between this and XCOM 2 yesterday, I am actually getting legitimately hyped.
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I'm really excited about this! by
on 2015-06-03 19:04:00 UTC
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I haven't had a chance to check it out fully, but it sounds really cool.
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Nice by
on 2015-06-03 18:41:00 UTC
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I got into the Fallout games late. I only picked up Fallout 3 a year and a half ago. Fallout: New Vegas came shortly after that. I enjoy them a great deal.
I should really get around to finishing the New Vegas storyline. I pretty much own the Strip, and many of the factions. Of course, some of them had to go. You know how it is.
Anyway, I should get back to that now that I have a bit of free time.
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Awesome! Can't wait for this to be out. (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 18:05:00 UTC
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I've only ever played Fallout 3 by
on 2015-06-03 16:38:00 UTC
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But it was quite good. Another one to add to my watch list.
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Dude, New Vegas! by
on 2015-06-03 16:51:00 UTC
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You need to play it! It is amazing. And it's very often of sale, so you can pick up the Ultimate edition for round-about $10. Very much worth it, I'd say.
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I bought Fallout 3, but... Well, I forgot to play it. by
on 2015-06-03 16:40:00 UTC
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Yay Steam sales.
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It is a good game by
on 2015-06-03 21:20:00 UTC
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Probably my favorite RPG not named Dragon Age or Mass Effect.
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Do you have New Vegas too? by
on 2015-06-03 17:01:00 UTC
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If so, I would actually recommend you pick up Tale of Two Wastelands. It's a mod that puts Fallout 3 in New Vegas's "engine," for lack of a better word. You start in 3, so if you want to play just Fallout 3, you totally can, no problems. It usually gives Fallout 3 some much needed stability and mechanics upgrades. It is a little tricky to set up, but they have detailed instructions on their website that should help you out. I have put a couple hundred hours in TTW, and have not regretted a second of it.
Some fair warning, you do need legit copies of both, with every piece of DLC. If you have the Ultimate or GotY editions, you should be fine. -
What are you still doing here? by
on 2015-06-03 16:47:00 UTC
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Go, Wanderer! Go forth and explore the Capital Wasteland!
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You have become afflicted with Major Hype Poisoning. by
on 2015-06-03 16:08:00 UTC
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Finally! Oh man, I've been hearing rumors about this for the last year or so, but an official confirmation? This is both awesome and torturous, since I won't be able to rabidly check for more info or reveals during this summer...
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Also, this seems appropriate for you: by
on 2015-06-03 17:02:00 UTC
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What is this? Do you hear it? by
on 2015-06-03 16:48:00 UTC
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Something seems to becoming in from that-a-ways.
It seems to be coming closer. Could it be?
Is it really?
YES! Yes it is!
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!!
I am so looking forward to this. I have been playing a lot of Fallout recently. Like, a lot of Fallout, so I can't be any more hyped then I am right now. Also, it's set in Boston! Which means we might see some more androids! Yay!
Also, would you look at those pre-war scenes! Perhaps we get to play some in the pre-war? That would be cool.
All in all, the game looks great, and I can't wait for e3.
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Ow, my brain. by
on 2015-06-03 18:03:00 UTC
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Who on earth would write something as horrifying as this?
Such gems as, daves pokemon (a GROUNDOON) just grinned becuz he was cool like tat. suddenly kitkat. hey dave im on team bad ur going down karkit sed. deserve a place in a published work of literature. -
Oh my! by
on 2015-06-04 21:34:00 UTC
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This is worse than the Shay Leigh Turner fic the DTE dealt with.
- Oh look, a dramatic reading. by on 2015-06-03 19:09:00 UTC Link to this
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There isn't enough Bleeping in Hogwarts OFU... o.o (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 19:05:00 UTC
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*Bleeprin, and yes. (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 20:54:00 UTC
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That's just painful to read. (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 18:40:00 UTC
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I'm having a hard time breathing thanks to laughter. by
on 2015-06-03 18:13:00 UTC
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This is such a troll.
"groundoon was a ledgend and very cool so dave picked him and he was aslos on fire becuz he knew fire blapst witch is a very strong mov."
You just can't beat that!
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I first found it from an MST by
on 2015-06-03 18:51:00 UTC
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If I get Permission, this is my first mission.
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I'm... part horrified, part laughing. (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 18:09:00 UTC
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Just a heads-up. by
on 2015-06-03 19:24:00 UTC
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I'm going to be working at a camp for the next two months where I won't have any posting capacity, so in the interim (for things like Plort, RPs, various other events...) the lovely miss Iximaz will be posting in my stead. If, for whatever reason, someone needs to talk to me, let her know and she'll be able to pass it along or give my contact info. :)
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Since you brought it up. by
on 2015-06-04 03:26:00 UTC
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I'm going to be in Hawaii with my parents and younger brother from June 10th to 18th this month. I'll be checking the Board and my email on my cell phone, but I won't be able to do anything on the wiki. (Other than read, of course.)
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Have a good time! o/ (nm) by
on 2015-06-03 20:52:00 UTC
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Paging Dr. Ixi... by
on 2015-06-03 22:18:00 UTC
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Would you kindly leave me a message on my address [mattchipher94 with a gmail tag], when you have some free time? I'd like to request a favour.
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You know... by
on 2015-06-03 22:30:00 UTC
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You can always just ask here.
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Umm... does mini-Boarders appear from misspelled e-mails? by
on 2015-06-03 22:20:00 UTC
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If so, you little guy *points at mattchiper94* have to go bye-bye.
Naturally, I meant mattcipher94 + a g-mail tag.
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The World of PPC, 2015 Edition by
on 2015-06-04 05:01:00 UTC
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Hello, PPC!
For the handful of you who have been here for at least two years, the subject line should be familiar.
For the rest of you, read on! Since I'm using an idea from a previous post, I'll use what I said then, with a few corrections/updates in brackets:
To think, that a series of stories created by two American girls, which parodied bad LoTR fics, would expand into a multi-fandom, intercontinental community such as the PPC currently is! So, of course, the obvious question: How diverse are we?
From the posts I’ve read, it appears that we have at least
one Haitian-American (yours truly)
one Italian
[two] Brits
[and even an American Brit (BTW: to our fellow Boarders across the pond, are hyphenated nationalities a thing over there?)]
[one American-Canadian-Israeli]
one Malaysian
one Israeli, given that his agent counterpart apparently knows some Hebrew [and given that he's mentioned that he's with the IDF]
[and quite a few others that I won’t try to list].
Obviously, this cannot be the exclusive list of all the countries represented on the PPC Board! So, if I misidentified you, please correct me. And if I have not run across you yet [or if I have not identified you], please identify yourself!
Well, you heard past-me! Who all is out there in the wide, wide world of the PPC Board of 2015? -
One Dutch/Belgian reporting! by
on 2015-06-09 17:09:00 UTC
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Ok, Officially I'm just Dutch, but the border around my home is so messed up nobody knows for sure. (Try finding Baarle-Nassau on Google Maps and you'll see what I mean)...
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I actually know what you're talking about! by
on 2015-06-10 02:20:00 UTC
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Not too long ago, I ran across this Youtube video that mentions complex international boundaries, including Baarle-Nassau/Baarle-Hertog. You must be thanking your lucky stars for those open EU borders, eh?
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New Zealand by
on 2015-06-07 22:59:00 UTC
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Auckland, to be precise.
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Texan here, with Polish parents by
on 2015-06-07 04:17:00 UTC
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I speak some Polih, and I have both passports, so I think "Polish-American" works as a description. PRobably.
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Freedom! Constitution! 'Murica! by
on 2015-06-06 19:20:00 UTC
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Tennessee, specifically.
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Australian by
on 2015-06-06 09:45:00 UTC
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Although most recently Welsh, and then general Anglo-Celtic before that, if you go back.
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Nationality by
on 2015-06-06 02:40:00 UTC
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Me, I'm just a plain old American.
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Still Half Welsh, Half English (So a Brit basically) (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 01:54:00 UTC
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Canadian by
on 2015-06-05 01:17:00 UTC
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Born in Saint John, New Brunswick and am half-Caucasian, half-Asian.
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Sweet, another hapa. by
on 2015-06-05 03:51:00 UTC
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Cheers from one half-Asian to another.
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Re: Sweet, another hapa. by
on 2015-06-05 03:59:00 UTC
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Never heard that term before. Cheers.
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Hapa? (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 03:52:00 UTC
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Hawaiian for "half". by
on 2015-06-05 16:27:00 UTC
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As in half-Asian, half-white. The full term is hapa haole.
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What type of Asian? (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 01:18:00 UTC
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Re: What type of Asian? by
on 2015-06-05 02:05:00 UTC
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I'm not entirely sure. My mom was born in Taiwan but her parents were born in China and they're usually considered two different countries.
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Just a Yankee dood by
on 2015-06-05 01:02:00 UTC
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My family is, regrettably, not very interested in its heredity. As far as I know, I am of African-American (for lack of a better term) descent, have an unspecific European maternal great-grandfather and my dad claims we've also got Native American (or perhaps Indian, he's never clarified) blood in there somewhere.
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AMRUICA! by
on 2015-06-04 20:14:00 UTC
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Virginia, but I'm so close to DC that practically speaking I'm in the capital.
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I think there's some french and german in there somewhere. (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 20:16:00 UTC
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United States (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 19:36:00 UTC
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England. (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 19:27:00 UTC
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'Murica. (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 19:24:00 UTC
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Hi from North Carolina! (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 18:33:00 UTC
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One tired soldier, reporting for duty! by
on 2015-06-04 17:27:00 UTC
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I am, indeed, from Israel. Currently a Sergeant in the IDF's C4I Corps, though I'll be getting my Sergeant First Class in a short while.
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German (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 17:17:00 UTC
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Greetings from Chicago! (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 15:21:00 UTC
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Arizona, United States by
on 2015-06-04 14:56:00 UTC
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Though if I don't get a zookeeper position at my current zoo in the next year, I may end up moving somewhere else and trying again.
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We've got a really nice zoo here in Chicago. by
on 2015-06-04 15:24:00 UTC
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Just sayin'.
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I can attest to that! by
on 2015-06-04 15:37:00 UTC
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Though considering the last time I visited was four years ago, I'm not sure how much it's changed since then.
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Chicago is cold! Cold would be nice. by
on 2015-06-04 15:34:00 UTC
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I doubt I have anywhere near the level of experience or education to even get an interview at the Lincoln Park, though.
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Well... by
on 2015-06-04 16:24:00 UTC
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There's also the Brookfield Zoo (just outside Chicago), the Peggy Norbart Nature Museum (which I believe has some live animals), The Shedd Aquarium (very nice place). There are options.
Also, the cold is nice. Just don't expect Nesh to agree about that.
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Oh, my. :D Things to look into! by
on 2015-06-05 06:42:00 UTC
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(Nesh, come spend a July in 110+ degree Fahrenheit temperatures. Then you'll realize coldness is quite delightful!)
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Funny story... by
on 2015-06-05 15:53:00 UTC
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When my dad and I went to visit ASU last October, we were both wearing shorts and t-shirts because it was pretty warm compared to the already freezing temperatures from where we'd come. And everyone was telling us we'd come at a great time because it was cold. XD
I do like the dry heat of Arizona (I have family in Phoenix- maybe I'l have to plan a Gathering next time I visit!) much more than the muggy humidity of Florida. You feel a lot less like you're drowning. -
A similar but opposite story. by
on 2015-06-06 14:45:00 UTC
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My parents and I were visiting my Mom-side grandpa in Oregon. While he was was driving us from the airport, it was raining heavily outside, with the windshield wipers blitzing back and forth. Grandpa was telling us about something that had happened recently: "It was a nice day, like this."
Yay! Come visit my zoo some time! Let me know in advance, so I can get your group passes.
Mmmmmm also, I know it's not really my business, but I attended ASU for two years, and uh, you can probably do better than there. <_ they didn even have a program specific to my major so i had transfer nau finish college. asu is just very generic in terms of courses.>
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((Haha, I'd love to visit!)) by
on 2015-06-06 21:29:00 UTC
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And no worries, I've already decided to go to Indiana University in Bloomington. Lovely place, and their English program will let me get my Master's in five years rather than six. :)
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A similar but opposite story. by
on 2015-06-06 14:45:00 UTC
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My parents and I were visiting my Mom-side grandpa in Oregon. While he was was driving us from the airport, it was raining heavily outside, with the windshield wipers blitzing back and forth. Grandpa was telling us about something that had happened recently: "It was a nice day, like this."
Yay! Come visit my zoo some time! Let me know in advance, so I can get your group passes.
Mmmmmm also, I know it's not really my business, but I attended ASU for two years, and uh, you can probably do better than there. <_ they didn even have a program specific to my major so i had transfer nau finish college. asu is just very generic in terms of courses.>
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'Murican. by
on 2015-06-04 14:50:00 UTC
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Midwestern United States, born and raised in the Ohio River Valley. Moving to Arizona in about a week, though.
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Where to? (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 14:57:00 UTC
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Phoenix area. (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 15:38:00 UTC
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Alas. I'm over in Goodyear. :( (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 16:06:00 UTC
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Isn't Goodyear near Phoenix? by
on 2015-06-05 00:53:00 UTC
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Or did I misread Google?
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Huh. Apparently, it is. by
on 2015-06-05 06:32:00 UTC
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I really don't have much sense of perspective. Sorry about that.
But, uh, cool! Voyd, you should totally bring your family out to my zoo some time! Let me know in advance, so I can get you in for free. -
Also American! by
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Jewish-by-heritage, and I think my parents have Eastern European and German roots (way, waaaaaaay back). ^^
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I'm French Canadian, maudit. by
on 2015-06-04 13:07:00 UTC
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More specifically, one half of my family were farmers (in China) and the other half were craftsmen (in Québec).
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So a Chinese-Canadian. Interesting mix. by
on 2015-06-05 00:51:00 UTC
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If you don't mind my asking, which side of your family is Chinese?
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Father's side. (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 02:46:00 UTC
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Filthy Limey inbound. =] by
on 2015-06-04 10:30:00 UTC
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Thanet, to be exact. =]
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Some clarification, please... by
on 2015-06-05 00:50:00 UTC
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One: What is a "Limey"?
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1) A Brit 2) Kent (I think) (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 01:42:00 UTC
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New question: by
on 2015-06-05 02:04:00 UTC
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How/when did Brits become known as "Limeys"?
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C18-19. by
on 2015-06-05 08:51:00 UTC
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Came about because British sailors put lime juice in the rum to ward off scurvy, and because Americans wanted a pejorative term for us. =]
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One Pole here! :D by
on 2015-06-04 10:05:00 UTC
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Also, fun fact:
In English language 'Polack' is is a derogatory reference to a person of Polish descent, but here it's a neutral meaning.
That's why I don't get mad if someone calls me a Polack :D Because that's who I am. -
Still British (and Kaitlyn is... still American for now). (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 09:00:00 UTC
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Aw, no further comments? by
on 2015-06-05 01:14:00 UTC
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I was half-expecting you to be the one to answer the question I left in the body of my post.
I'm truly curious: just like an American of foreign heritage is a "hyphenated American"; is there such a thing as a "hyphenated Brit/Englishman/Welshman/Scotsman"? "American-British" looks off to me, but that may be because "American" is on the wrong (from my perspective) side of the hyphen.
(P.S.: To everyone else, I know that the term "hyphenated American" historically carried a negative connotation, but I am not aware if that negative connotation still applies nowadays. Please feel free to correct me if I am in the wrong.) -
Sort of? by
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I've mostly seen it in the form 'White British', 'Black British', 'Asian British'. I'm not sure it's used much outside of demographic surveys, but could easily be wrong.
'American-British' probably wouldn't be a thing because American and British are both nationalities -- neither are an ethnic group. Some people do hold both nationalities (our children, for instance), but I've never seen anyone make a particular fuss about it. -
I'm Danish by
on 2015-06-04 08:42:00 UTC
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Hi from Denmark!
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The Italian confirms his presence. (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 08:18:00 UTC
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White Alaskan, at your service. by
on 2015-06-04 07:43:00 UTC
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Though, if you want to be boring and mark me as american, you can do that too.
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American as well by
on 2015-06-04 07:26:00 UTC
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Though if I wanted to I am not so far removed that I can claim I am Native American. Also spent a bit of time living in South Korea.
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Oh? What tribe? (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 01:16:00 UTC
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I'm English! (Or just put me under Brit if you like) (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 07:24:00 UTC
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Corsican guy here! by
on 2015-06-04 07:07:00 UTC
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I also have Italian, Austrian and maybe Spanish ancestry.
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Greetings from down under California! by
on 2015-06-04 05:42:00 UTC
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*waves from Mexico*
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One Asian-American steel void signing in! by
on 2015-06-04 05:27:00 UTC
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I was born in Ohio, but my parents moved to the states from Indonesia, so... yeah. :D
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Ducking autocorrect, I meant 'boid'. XD (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 05:28:00 UTC
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... by
on 2015-06-04 15:40:00 UTC
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ALL THIS TIME I COULD HAVE MET YOU AND I'M MOVING IN A WEEK ARGH
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Sorry, but... by
on 2015-06-04 18:04:00 UTC
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...I'm from the Columbus area. And I don't travel anymore, either ;_;
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I live near Cincinnati, but only for the next week... (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 19:01:00 UTC
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*waves from Australia* by
on 2015-06-04 05:23:00 UTC
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Except I lived in New Jersey until I was six. And my dad's a bit Russian, I think, except he was adopted. And I don't even know where Mum came from. I always assumed it was Mars or something...
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Lone American-Canadian-Israeli reporting! by
on 2015-06-04 05:15:00 UTC
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And being very amused that I described myself as "Rebel!DawnFire, this is she. And she looks about as much of a rebel as a tribble does." in that post.
Still got the triple citizenship, currently living in Canada. Hurrah! /hugs the moose in the backyard and downs several pancakes with maple syrup/
Say, anyone else here have triple citizenship? If so, which countries? I'm curious.
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American here. Sorry for the inactivity. by
on 2015-06-04 05:11:00 UTC
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It's time-crunch time at school over here..
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Regular American here, nothing special. by
on 2015-06-04 05:04:00 UTC
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Unless you wanted me to go listing my European heritage, which I doubt. ;)
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Why not? Just don't go too overboard. (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 05:17:00 UTC
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Well then, you asked for it. by
on 2015-06-04 05:25:00 UTC
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On my mom's side, German and Italian, and we're pretty sure there's some Polish mixed in as well. We've got ancestors with their names on the walls of Ellis Island.
On my dad's side, French, English, and Irish, very likely some German since our last name appears to be derived from the language.
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Hey, I've got German and Italian in me too! by
on 2015-06-05 14:38:00 UTC
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German from my dad's side (his father) and Norwegian (his mother). My mom has the Italian side. And my last name is derived from German as well.
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The Protectorate of Plort, Konti-Nyuum by
on 2015-06-04 10:53:00 UTC
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Tragedy! Crisis! Other exclamations of dismay! Once again, many of the Citizens and Knights of the Union of Plort have not received their customary honours. Their names are not listed in Baron Huinesoron’s Cyclopaedia; their coats of arms go unblazoned; their histories are unknown to even those closest to them. Clearly, this cannot go on.
Or, in other words:
Welcome back to Konti-Nyuum.
The Protectorate of Plort, Konti-Nyuum, is not a PPC AU. Rather, it’s a PPC Community AU - an answer to a question that was never asked:
What if the PPC Community was a medieval nation?
So here we are. The island of Konti-Nyuum lies to the north of the great continent of Weab. On this cliff-walled rock the noble knights Jay and Acacia made their home, building the Protectorate of Plort, and those who came after them have carried the Protectorate through its trials and troubles to the current Union of Plort. The Knights of Plort sally ever forth against the hosts of the Marizu, seeking to defend the beleaguered nations of the Scholars’ Empire from their scourge.
If you've been to Plort before, there are a few changes this year - and a few new goodies. ^^
-<a href="http://plort.wikia.com/wiki/ProtectorateofPlortWikia">The Cyclopaedia has a Wiki! This exchanges the impossible-to-search Google Doc version with an impossible-to-browse Wiki; whether you think that's a good change is up to you. Almost everything from the old version is in there, and I'll be filling in the last bits (mostly departed barons) as time passes.
-The world map has been created - and tweaked. Notably, the Scholars' Empire is now on Weab, not sequestered away somewhere. The Marizu League is attacking it directly. The Scholars' Empire represents the positive side of fandom, while the Marizu are the negative side.
There is also another known nation of the Western Continent, which - like the So Shall Medea - is making incursions into Weab. This is Guggle, and it has already taken over Yu'Tub. Not that everyone thinks it's a bad thing - the folk of Godreve and the farms along the Gu-Gel river are quite enamoured with it.
-You can visit Plort! I've made versions of Konti-Nyuum in Minecraft and in Civilisation IV; go wild. (The Minecraft version should start you off in Otik; if it dumps you somewhere else, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.)
Each and every member of the PPC Community is also a resident of Plort. You can find the autobiographies of everyone who's done this before in the WikiCyclopaedia (mine is here, for example). If you haven't already written your history, why not join in and give one? There's a guide on doing so on the CycloWiki, and a glossary outlining most of the websites and fandoms in the setting.
For entertainment value, please post your bios here on the Board; if you want to cross-post them to the Cyclopaedia, go ahead, but I'm happy to sort that out for you. A couple of notes:
-Make sure to choose which of the four nations of the Union you live in, and indeed where in it; there’s nothing wrong with adding small towns and villages wherever you please, or you can live in the cities. Up to you!
-Everyone can have their own pair of heraldic devices, according to Plort’s two systems as described here. If you can describe your device/s, either formally as described there or just vaguely, I’ll (try to) make it for you.
Nor is this thread limited to bios and heraldry. Anything goes! There will be a Baronial Council going on, which is open for in-character comments by all and sundry; world-building, RP-subthreads, songwriting... anything goes. Basically, use your imaginations - you're good at that!hSHuinesoron, by the grace of Kanun Baron and Knight of Plort, Protector of Ozerbord, Custodian of Fanvik-Whirl, Marshal of the Order of Udisc, Scourge of the Marizu, Friend of Medellurth, &c &c &c -
A New Tale of Plort! (co-write with Iximaz and Desdendelle) by
on 2015-06-10 23:38:00 UTC
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Well, now that I have your attention: how about those Habs?
No, just kidding. There really is a new story, titled "A Weary Traveler,". In it, Knight Eshakhar travels to Keep De'endee in search of hospitality from the Lady Iximaz (newly made Baron), and meets her for the first time.
(This story also serves as the introduction of Knight Eshakhar. As it's a story rather than a biography, some information is not included; this will be filled in with later stories or an additional paragraph at some point.)
We hope you enjoy reading it; we certainly had fun writing it!
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((Love it! =] )) (nm) by
on 2015-06-11 00:52:00 UTC
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Map update. by
on 2015-06-10 10:50:00 UTC
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The 2015 map, updated based on the thread.
-Ofum is now a ruin.
-Ba-Korp has been founded in southern Ozerbord, on the border between Huinesoron and Thanasius.
-Los Taelis has not been founded, due to lack of comment from Wechi.
-Critta-Kalthin has been upgraded to city status.
-The Riding of Sittorese has been founded. Of the barons who've offered comment on it, only one has been against the founding (Phobos); at least four have been in favour (five if the Wechian letter counts). So it's founded. It contains no cities; there's not enough people claiming to live there to constitute one!
If you want to set up shop in the Riding, choosing one of the two towns or adding your own would be lovely. ^_^
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A Letter, Smelling of Snow Drops by
on 2015-06-11 18:33:00 UTC
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Sir,
may I respectfully remind you that Dame eatpraylove fully supported your second proposal, including the part about Los Taelis? May I point out that Dame eatpraylove, whose abode is listed at "Border of Protectorate of Borrd and Commonwealth of Wechi", actually lives at the Wechi side of this border, as confirmed by her signature under a missive from Wechi?
Since Baron Neshomeh didn't speak against this plan, Wechi's common rule of non-objection may be applicable, and the Commonwealth of Wechi may actually have agreed to take its part of the burden. Honestly, I would be disappointed with may nation if we didn't.
A civilian of Wechi
((Hieronymus the hermit, of course, wouldn't say a word. He is still on the run, hiding in the wood of Kar’eer, and he doesn't want to anger another baron by looking like he intends to take over Los Taelis.
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Fair enough. by
on 2015-06-11 20:05:00 UTC
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I'll pick a spot close to the Turaipods and add it in.
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((As a side-note)) by
on 2015-06-11 01:22:00 UTC
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((I think one of the inlets on the south coast of the Riding of Sittorese ought to be called the Bay of Tarr or something. Obvious pun there is obvious. =] ))
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But there's cliffs there. :( by
on 2015-06-11 20:04:00 UTC
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The only sea-level sections of the Sittorese coast are the straight stretch leading up to Tango Down, and the little bit around Tumblar. Either Tumblar or the mouth of the Sozeri could take the name, of course. I'd prefer the latter because there's more space to fit the label in. ^_^
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((I live near Dover.)) by
on 2015-06-12 10:22:00 UTC
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((You may recall there are these big white things what bluebirds fly over, at least according to songs which know the square root of precisely dick about Kentish ornithology. They're not exactly an insurmountable problem, is what I'm saying here. =] ))
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There be villages, yes, around the Bay of Tarr. A boatbuildin' place with a small bay for where the fishermen do lie. The Wrights of Koe were famed once, before the fall o' Harpwire, an' would do well ter be remembered anew. Koewryght an' Rheewryght, fishing villages as made 'emselves into shipbuildin' ports, in the ol' days afore the fresh an' stinkin' dark of Marizu. If yer Ridin' is to look after its own, Baron Huinesoron, then there must be summat fer those folk to do. An' I has a plan, if'n yer'll be lettin' a mere commoner say it-
But soft, what be this? Why, if I be any judge, it do be fine shield o' Borrdish make, bearin' a beggar's arms. A Knight's arms. Sic Transeunt Nobiles, milord Baron. Be seated an' listen.
Yer have said, an' 'tis fair as yer words ever are, that the grain o' Sittorese must fill Plortish bellies. This has been voted into law, and the likes o' me mayst not go agin it. But there be more'n good land in this place, milord Baron. There do be more.
In days passed, the Kingdom's fine castles were built o' stone an' wood, as are they now. But that stone came from the south, near the joinin' o' the mountains. Sittorese stone was worked by masters and quarried for years, an' it were sent abroad until the Marizu sank the stone-bearing vessels.
But they need not do so any more.
We do 'ave, in form o' the airship-port at Skypcht, a means o' gettin' good coin for Plortish masonry once more - and a safe means with it. This return to old tradin' ways will bring in goodly funds for them as control the tradin an' the sky-fleets, thus allowing fer more improvements to the shipyards around Koewright an' Rheewryght, perhaps even buildin' a market town at Eksoeva fer goods an' chattels ter aid the farmers. Plortish stone may fly, milord Baron. Plortish iron and Plortish wool and Plortish gems already do. It will require investment, but what does not, milord? Speccerlate ter accoomerlate, as they do say.
Build a harbour, Eagle's Shade. Build it an' claim it an' take from it, as yer planned to do with milady's fair City. Only this time, there will not be that much in yer way... oh no, there will not. What say you? -
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on 2015-06-12 17:02:00 UTC
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You've named at least three towns there, I think. But... where are they? Have you got any solid geography for me?
And, um, why are you suggesting that Baron Me could cash in on something on the far side of the island?
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I want to add a castle. by
on 2015-06-10 22:41:00 UTC
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There could be a town springing up around it and slowly growing, though, if you like. Or nearby, at least. It could start off as housing the workers who build the castle--Eshakhar certainly isn't going to speak it out of the ground, that would a, be ridiculous, and b, put her in a coma. It could then remain and start growing. The castle would be called either the Castle of Dawn or the Castle of the Dawn; the town...well, if the castle's okay and you/other people want the town, I'll think up what it could be. Perhaps the town of Libraerie, or Goch't (gchat), or something.
Thoughts?
~DF
(PS: I first brought up this idea of a castle in Sittorese here, in response to HG's letter. I haven't posted the follow-up yet, but it's basically 'Lady Iximaz says it's fine, etc, etc'. I've explained pretty much all of the reasoning for building this thing to begin with there.) -
Sure? by
on 2015-06-11 20:01:00 UTC
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I think Goch't/G'chot would be the best name for the town - we've got enough of a library theme over in Wechi, and GChat actually has real-world significance to story-writing. The castle can take whatever name you want. So... where do you want it? Pick a spot. ^_^
hS
(PS: The only city suggested to have been built entirely by magic is Manyuel - Huinesoron and Neshomeh constructed it using the arts of Eitch-Tee-Em-Ehl or whatever it's called.) -
*grumblegrumblegrumble* by
on 2015-06-09 20:56:00 UTC
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'Er ladyship the Baroness Iximaz, in 'er infinite wisdom, do wish fer me ter possess arms. An I tole 'er, I did, I tole 'er Ladyship as the ones either side o' me shoulders do still work fine, but she do mean fer me ter take a coat o' arms as befits 'er advisor's status as Knight o' Iximaz.
I doesn't 'old with fancy, so makes it quick
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on 2015-06-09 22:48:00 UTC
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I have my arms here:-
And so shall it be, in the eyes o' Iximaz law an' the laws of this Protectorate, the arms of my house an' name.
But still I remain,
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((I left out the arms in heraldic like a scrubgrace. Derp.)) by
on 2015-06-09 23:13:00 UTC
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((Ahemhemhem:-))
((A field sanguine, cheif or, with sinister scythe blade or; dexter scythe blade toward sinister or; hammer proper, armed sanguine; sinister sickle toward sinister or; dexter sickle or.)) -
A re-drawing. by
on 2015-06-10 09:57:00 UTC
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(Because I prefer to redraw them; besides, it's fun)
Sanguine, a chief Or, between a scythe blade Or covered by a sickle Or points dexter and a scythe blade Or covered by a sickle Or points sinister, a hammer proper armed sanguine.
I'm not sure if describing a hammer as 'armed [tincture]' is technically correct, but it charms me so I'm leaving it in.
Also, HMM, HAMMERS AND SICKLES, SUBTLE. ^_~
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WHAT COULD IT MEEEEEEEEEEAN? =] by
on 2015-06-10 10:04:00 UTC
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Also, the motto (Google) translates as "so pass the noblemen". Please excuse me while I return to my Ladybird Book of Socialist Symbolism. =]
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((Man, I gotta be faster with catching these...)) by
on 2015-06-11 05:02:00 UTC
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Your Latin is just the tiniest bit off. The verb is singular: "so passes the nobleman". The verb needs to be plural to match its subject:
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((Wondering)) by
on 2015-06-11 08:51:00 UTC
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Might it look and sound better if the subject were matched to the verb: "so passes nobility"?
I don’t know Latin.
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((It's possible)) by
on 2015-06-12 02:36:00 UTC
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If you want to make the noun singular, it would look like this: Sic transit nobilis (So passes the nobleman)
What I suggested is to make both plural: Sic transeunt nobiles (So pass the noblemen)
If you specifically want to say "So passes nobility," it would translate into "Sic transit nobilitas."
Of course, the motto's final form is up to Scapegrace, and it looks like the knight has quite a few options available. -
May I suggest something? by
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White, a coin Or above an open palm proper.
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Elvish arms of Barons Kaitlyn and Huinesoron. by
on 2015-06-09 16:36:00 UTC
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Baron Huinesoron:
Ner black, rena gold; casta nastar alta tera, white feather with red marks and gold stem; canta nastar nica, gold nib of the feather; canta miri, golden elanor flower; canta miri, mallorn leaf being drawn in silver in by the pen nib.
This has technically changed, but only in that I've outlined the quills a bit more. I'm still not terribly happy with those leaves, and if I can come up with something I'll change this someday, but it'll do.
Baron Kaitlyn:
Nis sky blue, rena white: canta nastar alta cuna, a five-line staff on white ribbon enclosing a design recalling firethorn berries; canta miri, lotus flower pointing inwards; indil in fore, the twelve-pointed sun in splendour.
I've redrawn the whole thing to make the ribbons a bit less overwhelming (and lopsided), and added the lotus flowers to commemorate her election as a baron. Eight points now!
The Impaled Arms:
Nis sky blue, rena gold: casta nastar alta tera, white feather with red marks and gold stem; canta nastar alta, a five-line staff on white ribbon enclosing a design recalling firethorn berries; canta miri, golden elanor flower; canta miri, lotus flower pointing outward; indil in fore, the twelve-pointed sun-in-splendour, with feather stems merging with the points.
I'm actually pretty happy with this one. It's rather busy, but so are Tolkien's! And I do like the way the flowers pair up.
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hS, this is Glauronging amazing. by
on 2015-06-09 18:07:00 UTC
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Seriously, I agree with Ix: you're very, very talented and I really like your art.
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AHH SO COOL! by
on 2015-06-09 17:18:00 UTC
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hS, you're incredibly talented. Seriously, this is amazing.
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Thunder's Bio by
on 2015-06-08 17:17:00 UTC
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Please tell me if this bio is in line with the canon. It's still in the works.
Thunder, named so for her everlasting quick temper, was born in the Federation of Academia, where she quickly gained a passion for reading stories, writing stories, and defending the good stories. She traveled to Plort when she was old enough, landing first in the Commonwealth of Wechi before finally settling in the town of Manyuel. She became a Knight a few years later.
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Looks good to me. by
on 2015-06-09 11:24:00 UTC
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Except for that 'few years later' thing; don't you know that precise timelines are anathema to Plort? ^_~
Argent, between a lightning bolt azure and a cat sejant erect murray, an open book tenné
I'm not positive you were looking for them to be vertically-aligned, but given that it makes the cat look like it's reaching for the book, I decided to go with it. As a bonus, the lightning bolt is quite clearly an 'S' for Silenthunder.
(Though I have to ask - why do you have a mulberry-coloured cat?)
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hS, a better question would be... by
on 2015-06-09 13:46:00 UTC
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...why do you not have a mulberry-colored cat?
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That is a good one, but I have a better: by
on 2015-06-09 14:31:00 UTC
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Ahem:
"Daaaaawn, why haven't you commented on Eshakhar's heraldry yet?"
(I jest... mostly. ^_~)
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Pfaha, that is a great question. by
on 2015-06-09 14:38:00 UTC
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The answer? "I've been busyyyy."
Or rather: I saw it and got very excited, but then decided I'd wait to comment until I got home and had a full-size keyboard. What then? Well, I was pretty tired and then we started finishing Gallifrey Shrinks...and by the time that was posted, I was exhausted enough to just say 'I'm going to bed, all further comment replies will happen in the morning.' Which, so far, they are. I'll get back to you on the heraldry soon.
Thanks for the laugh, though, I needed that :) Think it's helping me wake up a bit more.
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Random idea by
on 2015-06-07 13:55:00 UTC
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So, we have a lot of weird magic systems.
What about one based on music? See, I have in mind that Ser Read is a bard, and he uses his musical talents in combat. Sing at the Marizu, and they get hurt.
All of the names of things in Plort are rather silly, so I went with Paurok (Power of Rock).
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Added to the Cyclopaedia. by
on 2015-06-08 07:53:00 UTC
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I've also noted that the Marizu use the evil varient: Zongfik. ^_^
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That sounds like Ami's magic! by
on 2015-06-08 03:35:00 UTC
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(Which I still haven't used in a mission...) I'm all for it! :D Do the various Elf agents know it?
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I approve of this. by
on 2015-06-08 00:04:00 UTC
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Like Huinesoron said, your Plort personal reflects the real you and your interests - Skaer'morys is a Beastmaster because of my own love of fantasy creatures, for example. (And come to think of it, I think a good name for a magic system centered around creature controlling could be simply called Mons, after the Mons Game archetype as defined by TV Tropes.)
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[Sneaks it in] by
on 2015-06-08 07:55:00 UTC
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And, obviously, Mons is very common in Pokhemmon.
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Are you musically-inclined? by
on 2015-06-07 18:08:00 UTC
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Plort is a mirror of sorts, and our personae-or-whatever are mirrors of us. People who are good at making websites know the arts of Eith-Tee-Emm-Ell; people who are good betas are adepts of Beytah. So if you're musical, then yes, having music as a magic art makes sense. If you're not, then it doesn't.
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Yes, yes I am. by
on 2015-06-07 18:10:00 UTC
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Everyone who's ever heard me sing has praised my voice. I've been singing pretty much since I could speak.
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((/shrug/ Eshakhar uses power contained in words/languages.) by
on 2015-06-07 16:55:00 UTC
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((I don't see why song wouldn't work; actually, it sounds like something she would be interested in learning about, and possibly learning to do. I would say that maybe it should originate in one of the Tolkien places, though, since so far it sounds at least a bit like the Elves' use of song in the Silmarillion. ~DF))
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The continuing saga... by
on 2015-06-07 04:16:00 UTC
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...of Dame eatpraylove, the Errant Knight.
Eatpraylove completed her traditional pilgrimage through the Purmeshon Range and Mountains of Reverence over the summer and most of the autumn of the year she arrived in Plort. She had heard through Wechi of a barbarian in Fanvik-Neht who claimed to have become a major Pokhemman [adjective form of Pokhemmon] god. Having grown up there, first forged and fought with Chris there, and learned the basics of storytelling there, she took this somewhat personally. (This was part of her drive to become a knight in the first place.)
When she returned to Borrd and after her victory celebration, she approached the mage-knight Skaer'morys the Silver for assistance. Though he was only somewhat more experienced against the Marizu than she, she wanted to have someone to support her on her first quest.
Skaer lent her his armored bird, Falchion, and cast a Godrevan ((seems legit, right?)) spell that allowed them to communicate with each other and Falchion by thought. They worked together surprisingly well for relatively new knights, and completed the quest to slay "Tasha" by the end of November.
She has continued her travels, as always, and is currently tracking down a demon Marizu of sorts. Her thought is that if she uses her new weapon, the Blades of Violet Roses, to strike down the demon, the Blades will lose some of their own Marizu taint.
(Aside: Pokhemmon, which split off from Vidya Gaym some time ago and is currently negotiating its eastern border with the Confederation, is a small but prominent nation known primarily as a tourism hotspot. Its wild animals are mind-bogglingly diverse and powerful, yet even a child can tame them with the proper tools. Citizens of Pokhemmon worship various animal gods of the land, the sea, the sky, space, time, and life and death itself. They are a friendly, intensely loyal people, ready to defend any slight to them, their heroes, or their culture in battle.)
(Aside 2: The Grand Republic of Deeay has trade routes that lead to and from it all over Weab, reaching even to Plort in a few cases. That level of accessibility, however, means there is a strong Marizu presence/influence there, possibly stronger than the army. Rumor has it that the Marizu League seeks an alliance with Deeay, or already has one, or seeded the entire cabinet with its double-agents so as to manipulate the Republic. Eatpraylove fears for her homeland's safety, and prays every day that its citizens stand against and drive out the barbarians.)
Eatpraylove's Equipment
Dame eatpraylove is uncomfortable with longswords, and so primarily relies on her long dagger, Chris. Her green mare, Ami, shares her master's kindness and love of music, at least according to her.
Her first target, the god-impersonator "Tasha", possessed a mysterious green fairy she called "Miguel" and a fiery-tempered unicorn named Brenda. With help from Falchion and her (temporary) telepathic link with Skaer'morys, Eatpraylove convinced both that they would be better off serving her.
Miguel insisted that his mother come too, as Tasha had captured but never actually called on her, or even given her a name. His mother, now named Diane, helps keep the manor clean, while Miguel himself accompanies eatpraylove on her quests as a sort of sentient good-luck charm. (He also knows time-travel spells.)
The Blades of Violet Roses she received from Skaer'morys, who pulled them from an angel impersonator's rotting corpse, in exchange for Brenda. A pair of throwing daggers, they take their name from the odd purple sheen and engraved rose patterns on both blades. -
I suppose I should elaborate... by
on 2015-06-07 05:34:00 UTC
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...upon the unusual discovery that I made when retrieving the Blades of Violet Roses, among other things. For it's actually quite a fascinating tale...
On my seventh venture beyond the Protectorate of Plort (shortly following the successful domestication of Velociripper the raptor with the aid of Lady Iximaz), I received word of a crisis in the floating sky islands of Kidd Icarrius - a land which I could not believe the scourge of the Marizu was able to touch! And yet, there was one that had infiltrated this sacred realm, under the guise of the lieutenant of its greatest goddess no less! I had to investigate, and so I made my way to the sky islands to investigate
I discovered an... interesting scenario. The imposter seemed to be impersonating the lieutenant by adding supplementary material to the existing records of said commander, and the worst he was doing was being excessively angsty to make others pity him. With me at the time were Rasheeda, my white lioness, and my Black-Tailed Roc, Squall... but unfortunately, they didn't get along, and they still don't. When I tracked the Marizu to Palutena's Temple, Their noisy bickering attracted the attention of the imposter, who whipped out the Blades of Violet Roses! Instantly, I set my beast and my bird upon him. The fight was short but brutal, and I feared that my companions would actually lose... but then a flash of light seemed to come from the heavens and strike the Marizu down, vaporizing him instantly!
Was it the goddess Palutena? Perhaps. But my monsters were saved, and that was all that mattered. But when I retrieved the Blades of Violet Roses, I discovered something else...
There was no corpse of this imposter. I had expected this because the blessed beam had obviously smited the Marizu completely. But inside the otherwise empty toga was a strange, pearlescent egg. Despite Rasheeda's warning, Squall eagerly approached it and pecked at it with her sharp beak... unintentionally opening a hole in its shell, and allowing the creature inside to break free. It was a baby bird, with fluffy down feathers as white as snow and a comb on his head as red as blood. Peeping in awe and wonder, the baby Caladrius looked up at Squall's fearsome eyes and hooked bill, and instantly, he knew: This was his caretaker. And I was as well, by extension.
I named the healing bird Carmine, due to his bright red crest. Along with him, I brought back the Memory Keeper's Cloak of January, Panacea's Caduceus - and the Blades of Violet Rose. However, Carmine is the souvenir from this adventure to Kidd Icarius which I treasure most of all. I am not a believer in miracles, but I suspect that the Goddess of Light may have blessed me with one that day. I have even theorized more than once that she herself turned the Marizu into a bird. If that really is the case, then he still owes me an apology for trying to skewer me. For now, though, he and Squall have become the best of friends, and have formed a creche of youngsters together with another recent addition to my bestiary.
Wait, did I really forget to mention that said recent addition is an eight-foot-long yearling Sea Serpent named Lazuli? No? Oh, dear... So much for my "Help Wanted" advertisement for a monster babysitter...
(Aside: Kidd Icarius is currently a territory of Vidya Gaym, and its toga-clad citizens worship various gods and angels. Along with a number of other territories, Kidd Icarius is part of the Suma Boros Union, which is seeking to follow in the footsteps of Pokhemmon and branch off from Vidya Gaym as an independent nation.) -
A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:14:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
A missive from Wechi [paging all Wechians]. by
on 2015-06-06 17:45:00 UTC
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[Copies of this parchment are magically distributed all over Wechi.]
We, the People of Wechi,- considering that the core of "The Eastern Dilemma", rather than being the absence of effective government, is the presence of ineffective government
- remembering that the Commonwealth of Wechi and the Republic of Iric are what they are, not because the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort decided that this is the best for Plort, but because the people of Wechi and Iric like to have it that way
- being aware that military rule and civil government should be kept separated
- firmly believing that the good people living in eastern Borrd and in western Iric know best what should be done to make these lands prosper
- trusting in the ability of forementioned people to do what needs to be done on their own unless they are obligated to wait for governmental orders that never arrive
- because the Ops and Dars of Iric are too occupied with the flourishing communities in eastern Iric to even think about their sparsely populated Far West
- and the Barons active in the Council of Borrd, lacking the wisdom of the mostly absent Barons residing in eastern Borrd, do not actually know what is best for Borrd’s Far East
- because the Ops and Dars of Iric are too occupied with the flourishing communities in eastern Iric to even think about their sparsely populated Far West
suggest that the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort should decide as follows:- A fifth nation shall be created in the Union of Plort
- This nation shall be named "The Riding of Sittorese"
- The Baronial Council shall define the exact boarders of The Riding of Sittorese, approximately between the Larninkurv Mountains and the river Sozeri, in such a way that the actual power held by the Ops and Dars of Iric and by the Council of Borrd over the lands they can reasonably be expected to reign in their current state are not diminished (much).
- The Baronial Council may set general limits for The Riding of Sittorese’ civil government, such as
- this government shall be committed to the cause against the Marizu
- nobody who is not a resident of The Riding of Sittorese shall have a say in its government
- this government shall be committed to the cause against the Marizu
- The Baronial Council shall not try to assign a civil government for The Riding of Sittorese in any shape and form; this decision is to be left to the people of The Riding of Sittorese.
Civilians, knights and baronesse, if you are residents of Wechi ((or have not defined your backstory and residence yet, but decide now to live in Wechi)), please sign here.
All signed copies of this document will magically be sent to Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort in the City of Borrd ((or wherever this council is held)), to show them to the barons.
The usual rules of our direct democracy apply: even if nobody signs, as long as nobody objects the delegate will continue to do what he wants to do.
((But I would really appreciate some signatures. Can you imagine how many hours I spent writing this? Don’t let me down.))
HG - considering that the core of "The Eastern Dilemma", rather than being the absence of effective government, is the presence of ineffective government
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((OOC question:)) by
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((Who are the residents of the prospective Riding? Cassie's may or may not fall in its boundaries; I figure she'd probably want to retain some lands in Borrd. So... Sir Ekyl, the Wandering Winterwood, and very newly, Cipher the Merchant. I think that's everyone who claims residence in Godreve or Tumblar.
So if 'they get to choose' is a real-world thing, they... probably won't spend much time choosing.
The trouble is that all our current mission writers have set up shop in the west - most of them in Barony Iximaz. To fit the theme, we really ought to move Iximaz over to the Riding to be baron over much of it... but in-universe, there's no way that would happen.
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((I am, to be fair, in the middle of many missions.)) (nm) by
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((Known inhabitants of Barony Cassie)) by
on 2015-06-07 12:49:00 UTC
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((I’m not sure whether Cipher is aware that "the lovely city of Tumblar" is actually a port town in eastern Borrd (so I sneakily asked and am waiting for an answer). Anyway, he has left his place of origin and is now a wandering merchant.
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((Postpone decision?)) by
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((Did Skarmory and Voyd define their residence already? I was not aware of this, and just this morning I got the idea that Wechi’s delegate should write to them asking whether they will take residence in the new nation and suggesting that they should make their opinion known. I’m also hoping for other people who still have no backstory or at least no defined residence. But this will take some time.
I suggest that we establish the borders of the new nation, watch how it develops, especially who settles there, and describe the details of its internal organization and civil government next year.
In-universe, supposed no prospective Rider of Sittorese comes up with this soon, the Wechi delegate’s next move will be to suggest that the Riders should be given some time to gather at a place they deem to be suitable and discuss their affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort.)) -
((Ser Read has responded)) by
on 2015-06-07 13:47:00 UTC
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((And he uses Gurrmish methods of communication, sending off ravens instead of owls or whatever.))
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((...magical earthquake move, perhaps? :) )) by
on 2015-06-07 06:18:00 UTC
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((Although that would be pretty odd. It could be blamed on the Marizu, or something? A sudden new geographical aberration?
Actually, if it's reached the point where I'm suggesting such far-fetched things, it's probably a sign that it wouldn't work. This isn't the sort of far-fetched idea that works, unless I've missed something, in which case...yay?
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I support this motion. by
on 2015-06-06 18:35:00 UTC
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And full marks to my apprentice for his diligent work in the name of Wechi. If he keeps this up, he'll have to start calling himself a journeyman soon.
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Listen, m'lord, for I've a tale... by
on 2015-06-05 22:41:00 UTC
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Everything has its price. Be it the finest sword in the land, the most exquisite cloth, or a military rank. If you want it, it's just a matter of price, and finding the right person. And trust me, all ye good lords, Cipher the Merchant King is the person you want to be friends with.
Originating from the lovely city of Tumblar, Cipher inherited the family business from his father; the old drunkard was a shallow bloke, his only interest was making more gold to spend on rye the same day. After passing away, the young heir decided to move out, close the first shop, and venture into the lands unknown to establish alliances and make some friends. He was led by a vision; a vast network of informants and suppliers, ready to provide with anything the client desires, no matter the cost, or methods. Be it the exchange of favours, investing into small shops, or simply blackmail and threats, as long as it could be used to obtain the goods - Cipher will use it.
Cipher has no side - his own well-being is the most important for him. He also doesn't identify himself with any coat of arms, nor a special mark. He is not, however, anonymous. Be it the Union, or the League, his goods (and information he possesses) always go to the highest bidder, and most people know that. There is only one question you must ask yourself, m'lord:
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Please scratch this line in the post below:
As far as I know, you may even have gone overboard and be a mercenary for the Marizu (I hear they pay quite well),.
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 12:32:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
As far as I know, you may even have gone overboard and be a mercenary for the Marizu (I hear they pay quite well),.
It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese, although, as far as I know, you may even have gone overboard and be a mercenary for the Marizu. I hear they pay quite well. But I am willing to take every help that I can get, and you do originate from the port town of Tumblar in Barony Cassie, right?
You should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your former home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
Baron Huinesoron, Baron Huinesoron! by
on 2015-06-05 22:15:00 UTC
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I bring you word, Baron! I have sighted an island off our northeast coast- the terrible isle of T'ihihihi! It is populated by the most jubilant savages- Baron, they never stop laughing! I have seen them in the full furor of their joy, and it is terrible to behold!
((In other words, Iximaz and I were talking, and she laughed by saying "T'ihihihi," and I said it should be an island off the coast of Plort, representing all of the non-fandom funnies found on the internet. What do you think?)) -
What a curious land. by
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I mark that it is among the closest of that chain known as the Airi-junal Isles; there is much we have yet to learn of those untamed lands.
(('Internet Funnies' actually fit pretty well with the 'original fiction' theme of the A-js, so I'm merging it in. ~hS)) -
Untamed they are indeed, sir! by
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Terrifying, I deem. *shudders*
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((Or CollegeHumor.)) (nm) by
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I think I now know the Plort equivalent to FunnyJunk... XD (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 04:50:00 UTC
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((Just wanted to say,)) by
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((The Minecraft world is awesome! I feel like I could explore for hours and not find everything!))
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((Thanks!)) by
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((Honestly, there's a lot of stuff no-one will 'find' because it's all ridiculous in-jokes with myself, or with people who're long since gone. Oh well!))
((A general to everyone who's mucked about in there: which castle did you like best? It was a lot of work getting them all different.))
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((Mine, of course!)) by
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((My brother took it over and built an elaborate underground layer accessed by the library, but what are you going to do? ^^;
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Arms/Heraldry for Knight Eshakhar! by
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After a good deal of revision and several attempts to understand the naming systems, here they are! If I've mixed something up with the description--ie, if it makes no sense--let me know and I'll describe it in plain English. For the Elvish arms, I actually made a sketch, which is included (in giant size, because I don't know how to shrink it. Hurrah!) It's just meant to give an idea, though, since I'm not completely sure I got the description right and had the sketch anyway. It's also a little blurry, unfortunately.
Heraldry
English: Oval, party per pall purpure, azure, vert. In center, an open book, binding Or with pages argent. An olive branch (stem brown with leaves vert) below, and nine sparks Or arrayed above.
Elvish: Ner purple, rena gold: canta nastar alta, white feather (partially consumed/covered by the fire) with gold stem and nib (nib pointing out), curving slightly to the left; canta miri, tiny blue birds; indil in fore, a ball of fire with blue center and layered/mixed red and orange flames emerging (covers or consumes the ends of the feathers).
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Oval, per pall purpure, azure, vert. An open book in centre Or with pages argent, an olive branch below proper, nine sparks above Or.
Ner purple, rena gold: canta nastar alta tera, white quill with gold stem, point outwards and curving to the left; canta miri, tiny blue bird; indil in fore, ball of fire with blue centre and red-to-orange flames, consuming the quills.
I always like drawing the elvish designs (which is probably why I invented a formal heraldic language for them!), and this one was really fun. The one thing I couldn't see on your sketch was the birds; they may be obvious if you can see the difference between blue and purple! Anyway, I went with 'flying away from the fire'.
(I've no idea what sort of birds they are; look a bit like seagulls, except... blue. The wings were aiming for swallow/swift, but missed, so I didn't do a matching tail).
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Okay, first of all? This is so exciting /jumps around by
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Thank you so much for making these. Although, I've been wondering: how exactly do you make these? Is it a website/generator? Are you using Illustrator and clipart? How does this magic work?
Secondly, thank you, and hearing that these ones were fun is pretty awesome.
Third, a couple of adjustments, if you don't mind.
The English arms are great, especially the way the edges of the book fit the boundaries of the purple. Speaking of the purple, though, is there any way to get it less red-hued? A little more like a darker version of the purple in the Elvish arms? I think that's the only thing I want changed there.
For the Elvish: also fantastic, especially the quills, and though there's no way you could have known, I like seagulls. Probably too much time around oceans as a kid :) I also like the 'flying away from the fire' touch. However, could you shrink them to about half the size? They should remain placed about where their tails currently join their bodies. And also...okay, odd request, but is it possible to change the shape of the blue flames? Or, if not, tilt it so that the wider parts line up with the birds? It, ah. I got it into my head that it looks rather a lot like a cross (one of the very fancy ones, couldn't tell you which church it belongs to or what the proper name for it is), which is exactly the imagery I don't want in my arms (no offence at all meant to anyone reading this, but...well, everything in the English arms apart from the colors can also symbolize some part of Jewish tradition, which should tell you something--or several things, really--about me. Crosses really don't figure into my personal life, and I'd rather they stayed out of my arms.) So, if it's possible to change that, I'd really appreciate it, because I can't seem to unsee the cross shape.
Apart from that...potentially darken the purple in the Elvish arms a little, to make everything else stand out a tiny bit more. I'm fairly sure that would work.
(Now you see why I didn't reply immediately--I knew I had a number of requests to make, and didn't feel like doing it on a tiny screen and with a touchscreen keyboard. But again, thank you so much for making these; they're completely worth slogging through two sets of heraldry rules in search of understanding.)
...wait, hold on. I think I must have described the English colors in the wrong order--I swear I meant for the green and the blue to be flipped. Wasn't there something about them going top, then left? No wonder I've been thinking something looked very slightly off.
Right. Remedied description:
Oval, per pall purpure, vert, azure. An open book in centre Or with pages argent, an olive branch below proper, nine sparks above Or.
And with that, I'm done. And will continue being happy about having heraldry, because it's really worth being excited about. (Case in point: saw it for the first time yesterday, and promptly walked down the hallway staring at it and smiling). Thank you again, so much.
~DF
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A'tweaking we will go... by
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Someone did make a mistake with the English arms - but it was me, not you. I got all tangled up in the fact that the left side of the shield is the dexter side; you start from the right as seen by the holder. I think. I've changed it, anyway. And tweaked the purple (which I'd swear was identical to the Elvish purple initially - not sure what happened there!)
Cross ha' gone poof. ^_^ What it looked like was a Teutonic cross, which is actually the same kind I drew on in Alleb's arms. Birds are shrunk to... about half-size, ish. They've lost their beaks, but one pixel isn't much of a sacrifice. They also seem to have black wingtips now! And I've darkened the purple a little.
As to how I make them... MS Paint! A lot of the animals are very-shrunken images from t'Internet, but everything else is just pixel art. It helps that we've all got the same sort of hobbies - I've spent a lot of time copying feathers and books around! Your olive branch, too, is just a modified version of the kangkung stalk from Critta's arms. But the birds (both versions) were drawn from scratch. The trick is making the devices small enough that the 'details' don't need much detail...
hS
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Tweaking, tweaking, tweaking... by
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Okay, I'm now completely satisfied with the Elvish arms. They look absolutely fantastic. Thank you!
The English is also looking closer to how I want it, I think. One thing--could the olive branch perhaps be shrunk a bit? Sort of...hm. Shrunk and centered under the book? Something about the size of it is bugging me.
...either that or move it up, unshrunk. Just...something about it bugs me, and I'm not completely sure why. Maybe balance, or something, I don't know...ach. Art, huh? :)
Teutonic cross, there we go. My guess was 'something vaguely Celtic', which...seems pretty off, actually, since I remember Teutonic having something to do with Germany. Unless that's to do with Conrad's Fate and isn't, in fact, related. Anyway, thanks verr' much for making it go 'poof' :)
MS Paint? MS Paint? Wow. Also, how. Admittedly, last I checked it'd come a long way from the version I liked to use about ten years ago, but...wow. And those are some pretty great birds to be drawn from scratch. I assume you're not using a mouse? Or, if you are...yeah, I'd be back to going 'How?'
Color me impressed either way.
Hm. Okay, then, I'll take from this that outlines are at least slightly helpful. Hm. /begins plotting flags/
And thank you again, by the way. This is just...yes. This is wonderful :D
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You're right - it was way too large.
Crosses: the equal-armed cross is fairly common (sometimes as a pre-Christian symbol, even). The version with the flared ends is fairly Teutonic; Celtic crosses usually have a bounding circle. Since the blue fire was vaguely circular as it was, you could go either way.
And yes, I'm using a mouse. I'm not actually drawing them line by line - I'm doing it pixel by pixel. The mouse allows for precision in placing things exactly where I want them. ^_^
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A lot better. by
on 2015-06-10 22:50:00 UTC
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I saw it together with the Elvish arms on the Plort wiki page, and it's looking pretty good.
Tiny thing, though. Could I, er, trouble you to make the olive branch a tiny bit larger? /sheepish smile/ Maybe a millimeter wider on each side, or even a little less than that. After that, I think it will be perfect, and I'll shut up :)
(I am entirely that person who spends those minutes arranging things just right by way of 'hm, one tiny bit up...no, down...hm, two to the side? No, three. No, maybe two. Which looks better? Ha, yes, it's two. Fantastic.' and so on.)
Pixel by pixel, huh? Is that faster than I think it is, or does it still take a ton of patience? And, honestly, either way--your pixel placement art is fantastic. And, since I didn't say it above but have your attention here, Kaitlyn's redrawn arms? They're lovely. I really like the redesign.
(Pixel by pixel, pixel by pixel. Now I'm curious to try that...)
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The version on your Cyclopaedia page is now sliiiightly enhanced. ^^
The pixel-work... takes patience and is probably faster than you think. There's a lot of mirroring going on, particularly in the elvish devices. And it's just... well, it's fun. I always wanted to be able to draw, and now I can cheat at it. ^^ (And thank you!)
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I wouldn't call it cheating. by
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Seriously, be proud of your talent!
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It's been a long time since I've checked a Page 2 thread.
In answer: no, I cheat again. ^^ I use the 'edit colour' function to look at the RGB values. If you take a look at the blues and purples I use, you'll find that they're usually fairly perfectly balanced: blue has matched red and green figures (ie, 'pure blue plus white'), while purple has matched blue and red (ie, 'pure purple'). That way I can be sure I've got it right.
(Same with green and yellow, actually. I'll handle orange myself, though. ^~)
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One pixel at a time?? Your patience is boundless. by
on 2015-06-10 16:45:00 UTC
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...OR IS IT? Let's test this theory, shall we?
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"Bother bother bother bother bother..." by
on 2015-06-10 16:56:00 UTC
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(Does anyone else remember the Potter Puppet Pals, or is that too old an internet phenomenon?)
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I found the source of the ticking! by
on 2015-06-10 17:17:00 UTC
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It's a pipe bomb!
Yaaaaaay.
*BOOM*
In other words, yes. I think "Trouble at Hogwarts", "Wizard Angst", and, of course, "Mysterious Ticking Noise" are my three favorites. Then again, "Wizard Lice"... -
A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:22:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
A letter, delivered by messenger bird by
on 2015-06-07 13:48:00 UTC
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Sir, your request is a noble one, and well-worded besides. I shall give you answer to the best of my abilities.
In recent times, I have sworn loyalty to the Lady Iximaz, and, indeed, it is at Keep De'endee that your letter has found me. However, I swore to her with the both of us full-knowing that I am a traveler by nature, and will not remain always by her side--a knowledge which is well-suited to milady, as she is herself often abroad. However, any decisions I make must be discussed with her.
As to the decision: it has been long since my own home was a permanent one. When I first attempted to build for myself a dwelling, it was soon attacked by the Marizu and razed to the ground. This was many years now past; and though I have long been devising plans to at last build my Castle of the Dawn, never yet have I been able to decide the time and place of its construction.
Perhaps, sir, the time is now: too long have my books and possessions languished in their storing beyond the Mistwall. Too long have I been without a true home of my own. In Keep De'endee I am welcome, and the same is true of numerous towns and cities; but there is truly no place in Plort which I have called my home for longer than a year. My heart would rejoice to have such a place, and the location of this Riding of Sittorese--encompassing the towns of Godreve and Tumblar, in which both I have sojourned and found fair welcome and great contentment--aye, the location pleases me as well.
And yet--I am sworn to the Lady Iximaz, and must speak first with her. However, I do not believe that she would deny me the construction of a permanent home--it would hardly mean that I would be never by her side, after all.
With my most sincere thanks, sir, for your letter and for your information;
I remain;
Eshakhar, Knight of Plort
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((Aka, this is very intriguing, and it makes sense to me that Eshakhar currently has no permanent home and would like one. The destruction of her attempts to build one in years past mirrors me finding at least one Sue in my earlier stories; and I've spent a lot of time on Tumblr, and even more now on Google Drive. And, while she's sworn her loyalty to Lady Iximaz, I don't really see it being a problem--the entire idea was 'I'm swearing loyalty to you, but with the understanding that you don't mind me going wandering a lot, since you do the same anyway'. But--yes--I'll have to discuss it with Iximaz :) It does seem reasonable to me, though.
Also, hS' description? 'Writing of Stories', co-writes, betaing--especially recently, I've been doing a lot of co-writes (they'll start bearing fruit relatively soon, I think, and certainly over the next half year), and I've always done betaing when I can. Honestly, it...seems perfect. I might need a few more details about what it entails Plort-wise, and there is, of course, the understanding that Knight Esh will often be away, but making her permanent home in the new Riding? I like the idea.
And with that, I must run, I'm expected somewhere nearby in fifteen minutes. But thanks for thinking to approach people whose characters haven't declared their homes yet! Good thing I've been a little slow with the backstory, huh? :)
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This sounds awesome! I'd love to join... by
on 2015-06-05 14:42:00 UTC
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But i don't have the computer version of Minecraft, nor Civilization 5. :(
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Civ 4, if that helps. ;) by
on 2015-06-05 16:49:00 UTC
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But as Des says, those are sideshows: this thread is the centerpiece.
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You don't need them. by
on 2015-06-05 14:43:00 UTC
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The main event is the RP here, bub.
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Oh, trust me I do ;D by
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But fine then, I'll join ye good lords in a moment.
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OH FOR F** SAKE by
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What's going on with me!? I keep replying to wrong threads... Apologies, nothing happened, carry on.
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((I would love to join the fun...)) by
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((But, knowing me, even for this I would need a Beta. Anyone willing?))
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Filius Caeli's heraldry by
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((Unfortunately, I don't know how to convey the entirety of the image in my mind into heraldic language, so I'll put the field in heraldic and the charges in plain English))
Field: Or, a bend sinister sable
Charges: A black letter "F" on the left and a black letter "C" on the right. (I originally wanted the letters to be silver, but that rule of tincture is in the way.) On the black stripe, two crossed, broken swords; the swords each have a big crack down their length.
Upon the crossed swords, an open book with a quill on it.
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Mm-kay, let's try this. by
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Or, a bend sinister sable, the letter F above sable, the letter C below sable, on the bend crossed swords cracked lengthways argent, on the swords an open book proper, on the book a quill Or.
You didn't specify colours for the charges on the bend, so I used the Sword of Plort (which is argent), the book proper (red cover), and a quill Or (to match the background). The broken nature of the swords is also rather less obvious than it was before I kept stacking more objects on top of them. ^_^
Thoughts?
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I had imagined the bend to be at a sharper angle so that the F and C would be at the same level. Furthermore, please put the letters in Times New Roman, that was the font I had envisioned.
As for the charges, you're very close to what I had wanted. Please move the book (and quill) further down, so that it covers the intersection of the swords; I want the hilts to be visible from the bottom, and the points to be visible from the top. (Feel free to shrink those charges if necessary.)
As for the swords, they'll do if nothing else can be done, but I actually wanted the swords to be broken, not having an intact slit in the middle: I wanted it to symbolize that I am not a knight (yet); if and when I do get around to gaining Permission, I'll be asking you to change the charge to show intact swords.
Thanks in advance for putting up with all these demands.
(P.S.: A minor stylistic quibble, so feel free to ignore it, but could you please make the quill a quill proper, and also at the same angle as the bend sinister instead of horizontal like it is now? Thanks.) -
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I have no idea what you're talking about with the swords, then. You want them 'broken' with a lengthwise break - how is that different to what I've drawn?
And what colour is a quill proper? If you're thinking white, that will make a lot of white there in the centre.
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About the swords: The difference is that I had expected the edges to be jagged, as if an impact shattered the blade. As it currently is, the edges are straight, as if the sword had been designed that way.
As for the quill, I vaguely remember you having drawn a quill with different colors for another shield; I think that the feather was a brownish color? Then again, my memory could be amiss. Either way, if my memory is off, don't worry about the quill. -
I've got about six different quills. by
on 2015-06-08 13:08:00 UTC
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Gold, eagle-feather, white, white-green (and tiny), blue and black, black and blue, blue and green, blue, and stylised black. I don't think I have a brownish one other than the eagle pattern, though it's certainly possible I've missed it.
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In that case, by
on 2015-06-09 03:43:00 UTC
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Put over the swords a book with brown cover, marked by a quill Or with shaft brown.
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Version 2 by
on 2015-06-09 09:57:00 UTC
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Or, a bend sinister sable, the letter F above sable, the letter C below sable, on the bend crossed swords broken lengthways argent, on the swords an open book proper marked by a quill Or with shaft tenné.
I think that tenné is only the second time I've used one of the three stains (Sir Ekyl had sanguine as his background); you got in just ahead of Thunder up top, who's used two of them.
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on 2015-06-10 00:57:00 UTC
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I did not expect the letters to be in bold, but that is minor; I won't quibble about it.
Thanks loads for working on such a detailed coat of arms. I'm liking how it turned out. -
How do you make an Elvish shield? by
on 2015-06-06 15:35:00 UTC
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I'm only seeing instructions for the English one.
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:25:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
A Letter, Returned via the Same Owl by
on 2015-06-08 01:11:00 UTC
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Dear Hieronymus,
As a wanderer by nature, I do not currently have a fixed abode. Moreover, when I am in Plort, I tend to stay at an inn in Borrd, hence I currently have no stake in the government of the Riding of Sittorese.
However, as the matter of this Riding seems to be of great historical importance, it is nonetheless possible that you will find me at the Baronial Council--there is oftentimes no better lore than the machinations of the great, and who knows what insights one as well-travelled as myself may be able to impart?
May the blessings of Kanun and Spelin be upon the inhabitants of the Riding, should the nation ever arise.
--Filius Caeli, Seeker of Lore -
Well... by
on 2015-06-06 16:19:00 UTC
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Have you tried taking a look at this?
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It starts on page 6 or so. by
on 2015-06-06 17:21:00 UTC
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The title is 'Heraldry of Beleriand'.
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((Far be it from me to hurry a Baron...)) by
on 2015-06-06 20:32:00 UTC
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((but the turnaround times for these things are usually quick. Was my description too complicated?))
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((I feel like I've had this conversation before?)) by
on 2015-06-06 20:36:00 UTC
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((It's the weekend. For various quirky reasons [I have many quirks], I don't usually get much done at the weekend.
In fact I know I've had this conversation before; I just can't remember who with. ^_^
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((earlier in the thread, I believe)) by
on 2015-06-07 06:21:00 UTC
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((Somewhere around HG's revised arms, I think. ~DF))
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((Thanks for letting me know.)) (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 20:41:00 UTC
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((Well, AFAIK, it wasn't me.)) by
on 2015-06-06 20:40:00 UTC
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((As for the arms, I'll be waiting.))
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Found it. by
on 2015-06-07 18:10:00 UTC
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It was Anonymouse and Desdendelle last time we Plorted. It was on the same issue (coats of arms), which explains my strong feelings of deja-vu. ^_^
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Hear now... by
on 2015-06-04 23:17:00 UTC
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...the tale of Darkotas the Loyal; renowned explorer, and guardian of Lady Iximaz's holdings.
Raised in the land of Tivit, Darkotas spent much of his life as an accomplished explorer, roaming Tivit to map out the various treasures and secrets it held.
He studied whatever he found, and became skilled in Tivit culture, including the art of Jhonra Sa'v strategy along with other forms of combat. Despite his travels and learning, the young man never encountered the legends of Plort until he met a passing traveler by the name of Iximaz.
He became fast friends with the young woman, and although she could not stay for long, they agreed to keep up in correspondence as she traveled to Plort in search of adventure. As she wrote of her training as a Knight and prosperity within the land, Darkotas prepared to follow on his own journey. He arrived in time to witness the appointment of his friend as a Baroness, and pledged his life and loyalty to her as a follower.
Although he does not hold Knighthood, Darkotas is more than prepared to defend his Lady and those she has sworn to protect. He knows Castle De'endee like the back of his hand, and has mapped out possible locations for defenses or traps if they are ever required. He hopes they shall never be needed, but he has sworn that no harm shall befall those he has pledged his life towards.
((Dark requests his heraldry be a dog Or with scroll Argent in its mouth, walking on a field Azure.)) -
Arms for Darkotas the Loyal. by
on 2015-06-07 21:53:00 UTC
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Azure, a dog passant Or, in its mouth a scroll argent.
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"That heraldry?" by
on 2015-06-07 22:36:00 UTC
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"I like it. A lot."
((His exact words. He's busy squeeing over them at the moment. I think you did a good job with this one. ;) )) -
^_^ Always good to hear. (nm) by
on 2015-06-08 14:36:00 UTC
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I must say I really like these arms. (nm) by
on 2015-06-07 22:33:00 UTC
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((Oh, and—)) by
on 2015-06-04 23:20:00 UTC
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((The dog would be a Golden Retriever breed.))
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((Is there a translation guide somewhere?)) by
on 2015-06-04 21:18:00 UTC
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((I'd like to join in, but I'm having a hard time deciphering what means what, sorry.))
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:29:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
There's a glossary. by
on 2015-06-04 21:19:00 UTC
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Here.
If you want some of the Konti-Nyuum stuff, the old version has a lot of it.
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((Thanks!)) (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 22:41:00 UTC
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Hieronymus – Civilian, Commonwealth of Wechi. by
on 2015-06-04 20:26:00 UTC
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((Part One is already on the Cyclopedia. Revised Version: To keep the spelling consistent, “rumors” should be “rumours”, unless all tales of Plort should be in American English.))
“Not much is known about Hieronymus the hermit. He travelled wide and far, looking for a place where to dwell when his livelong journey came near its end. Following rumours about a dreaded plague called the Marizu, and the brave knights who fought this evil, he came to the shores of Wechi. Unseen by anybody, he roamed this vast land for over a year, even sneaking into Arkive and the Hall of Ancient Records. Only when a stranger accused the noble knights of vile malefaction, Hieronymus stepped forward to Borrd to defend their selfless deeds.
“Since then, he has talked to some of the denizens of Plort, and he began to build his home in Wechi, and to prepare his offerings to Kanun and Spelin, for he pondered to explore the mountain range of Purmeshun, but now he seems to be lost in the wood of Kar’eer. How he got there is still a mystery, for he has never been seen in Iric.
“Some may conclude that Hieronymus is a fearsome mage who comes and goes of his own volition, and has not revealed his full power yet, while others may believe that he is a leaf in the wind, never knowing where he may be tomorrow, and both may be right, for being self-contradictory is his very nature.
((Part Two))
“Over time, rumours spread that the hermit may have left the dark woods to walk the roads and pathways of Plort again.
“Inhabitants of Ozerbord remember a grey bearded man who appeared at the Games of Batveg, clad in the habit of a harlequin, pretending to be a veritable knight, but fighting the atrocities in other knight’s tales rather than the misdeeds of the Marizu. Of course this fool was laughed out of town.
“Wordsmiths and Grammagicians at Worhkshap tell tales of a taciturn, grey bearded man wielding a staff – named Androia – in the training sessions for scribe apprentices. Civilians, knights and even barons up and down Plort claim that this very man’s feeble attempts in practising the ancient arts of Beytah may actually have improved their strength. And nobody shall ever again mention the Quiet Baker-Knight’s weird experience at the Shipfest in a nameless harbour.
“It is also said that Hieronymus, on his flight from Ozerbord to Worhkshap, passed an unexplored region at the junction of the Wattuf Mountains and the Mountains of Reverence, where he found the Snow Drops, a moste potente potion that helps curing forgetfulness. How these will be used in the future is yet to be seen.
“Recently, the peasants living in the lands between the rivers Wep and Freewep began to talk about a newcomer, fitting the hermit’s description, amongst the workers sent by Baron Neshomeh to help in repairing the damage caused by the last earthquakes.
((Thanks to PoorCynic for beta reading so far.))
“The peasants are probably not mistaken, for one day not far in the past, Hieronymus appeared in the Hall of Ancient Records – as he likes to appear out of the blue – and he bent low, and he spoke up and said, ‘Milady Neshomeh, I travelled wide and far. My eyes are old, and my posterior can not stand perpetually riding against the Marizu. But my mind is still sharp, and my hands don’t tremble. If you would assign me a corner in your castle Arkive, where I can rest and store my staff and flask, I could help you copying and restoring these documents I see are in bad shape and may soon disintegrate into dust. And in case I feel ever fit to follow you into battle, I would appreciate the licence to wear your colour on my shield.’ “
((Thanks to Neshomeh for beta reading the job application. No thanks for accepting it and sending me off to the wastelands to demonstrate me skill in the craft of Eich-Tee-Ehm-Ehl :-). BTW, Luthy and Sil’s spin-off is up.))
((Hieronymus the hermit asking for a corner to store his still uncanonical “weapons” implies that Hieronymus the boarder, if he ever asks for and gets permission, would like to have Hieronymus the archivist’s apprentice store his stories in the archive of Lost Tales, skipping the step of having them gone lost elsewhere first.))
((To Huinesoron: Since Baron Neshomeh didn’t object to the choice of colour: (Neshomeh-)Vert, spectacles Or. Please.))
((Would choosing the motto Keep it simple anywhere near Neshomeh’s coat of arms make me a horrible person? Well, the blunt worshiping may make up for it.))
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Arms something like this? by
on 2015-06-05 17:00:00 UTC
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If that's not what you're thinking of, let me know and I'll change it (of course).
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Note quite. by
on 2015-06-05 17:22:00 UTC
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I should have specified that the glass is transparent, only the frame is metal. And I imagined circular glasses (like Air'ihpotre’s); this may look too modern for the setting.
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More like this? by
on 2015-06-06 12:29:00 UTC
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(It's the weekend, so I won't be doing very much; apologies to everyone who's waiting on heraldry! I promise it'll all get done eventually.)
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Perfect. Thank you so much. (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 15:24:00 UTC
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Re: The Protectorate of Plort, Konti-Nyuum by
on 2015-06-04 19:48:00 UTC
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Baroom came to Plort after long wandering through Weab. She settled in Wechi, in the woods of Umor, among the foothills of the Mountains of Reverence. Her dwelling is not called Wellinghall and she is known to travel along the rivers of Bord. She spends her time watching. She has a deep hatred for mangled language and trys to seem as a witch of Prashette.
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Calling for help by
on 2015-06-07 11:52:00 UTC
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May I direct your attention to this? I’m feeling awkward here and can use every support I can get.
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IÂ’m confused. by
on 2015-06-04 21:31:00 UTC
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Her dwelling is not called Wellinghall [...]
Is this a pun I don’t get, or may you have meant "is now called"?
Also, I seem to understand what you try to say in the second part of your last sentence, but the grammar appears to be a bit off.
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Ah yes. by
on 2015-06-05 16:44:00 UTC
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Wellinghall is the dwelling of Treebeard. Because Ent-references.
Yes, I apologise for that. That said, it's possibly setting-accurate.
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Ah, Quellhall! by
on 2015-06-05 17:04:00 UTC
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I should read more books in the original language, so that I get such references.
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((May I describe my herdarlic whozawhats?)) by
on 2015-06-04 19:44:00 UTC
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((I think that's what it's called. Hopefully, I'm doing this right.
Per chevron, Azure and Or, a dragon rampant guardant Sable, armed Argent, and a controller Proper.
Oh yes, a backstory.
Johan the Orange as a child grew up in the Guggle occupied Yu'Tub. He lived a very sheltered life, and had only heard of Fanvik-Neht and the Marizu in quiet whispers. When he was old enough to live on his own, he left Yu'Tub and began to live in Pokhemmon, and witnessed atrocities committed by the Marizu, and fled to live with the Potters' Moore. He got separated from them as he passed through Tivit, and got horribly lost. He eventually heard stories of Knights that fought off the Marizu threat, and wished to help.
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:33:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
Arms. by
on 2015-06-05 13:10:00 UTC
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Exactly as written, except that I can't for the life of me find a dragon guardant, and can't draw one either. Dragon faces is hard.
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Actually, itÂ’s called "heraldic". by
on 2015-06-04 21:20:00 UTC
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And it’s not bad for a beginning, but to fit the theme "What if the PPC Community was a medieval nation?" you may want to make it sound a bit more old-fashioned. Yes, that’s challenging.
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Something of interest by
on 2015-06-04 19:43:00 UTC
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Perhaps now is as good a time as any to announce the courtship of the baron Thanasius Ampelius and myself?
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I suppose congratulations are in order. by
on 2015-06-08 14:35:00 UTC
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Very well, then: from the armorial college at Maklaur, I present you with your impaled arms.
Doubtless we will be seeing them frequently in Otik.
((Impaled arms are 'unofficial', in that there are no formal rules for how they can be used; ie, they're not just for married couples. I like to imagine Jay and Acacia used impaled arms purely out of friendship, never realising how everyone would inevitably take it...))
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How do they say...? by
on 2015-06-08 16:12:00 UTC
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Something to the effect of 'appetite comes with eating', I think. Certainly the case - this looks awesome and it made me want to see whether our other set of arms - the Elven ones - can also be impaled. That's what I came up with, though I'm not sure whether it's kosher under the system's rules:
Nis green, rena silver: canta nastar alta cuna, rose leaves; canta nastar alta tera, raven feather with blue highlights; indil in fore, a yellow rose; indil in fore, woven with stems of feathers, circular green braid.
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You're evil. by
on 2015-06-08 16:51:00 UTC
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You know how much I enjoy making Elvish arms.
Blazon is... basically what you said, except that you don't need to state 'tera' for the feathers (they have to be that way), and I've put the braid under the rose; it seemed more natural that way.
I've also left the braid red; if I change it, there's a lot of green all on top of itself. If you still want it in green, I'll probably use the dark green of Iximaz's thorns. Up to you, ultimately.
Also, now you've given me ideas, there will probably be a Huinesoron/Kaitlyn 'impaled' device along tomorrow. Villain. ^_^
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Hm... by
on 2015-06-08 16:57:00 UTC
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*rubs his stubble*
You seem to be enjoying yourself.
*shrugs*
Can you please colour the braid blue, though? Red doesn't fit in with the rest of the colours of the device.
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And I can't do many more impaled Elvish devices: there's only a couple more on the books, total! I could invent one for Phobos and cross it with Nesh's, but after that I'm down to shipping... well... ships! Aberration/Ysæs, anyone? ^_^
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((Stunning. (nm) by
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Wow by
on 2015-06-08 19:21:00 UTC
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Those two coats of arms look really nice, hS!
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hS, that looks amazing. (nm) by
on 2015-06-08 17:19:00 UTC
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Wow. by
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This is blinking awesome. Seriously, props - it's amazing.
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Thank you very much, Baron Huinesoron. by
on 2015-06-08 15:54:00 UTC
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And doubtless, your hunch will soon be proven correct.
((*runs around in circles squeeing* EEE I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT! Thank you!)) -
Well! by
on 2015-06-06 00:13:00 UTC
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So that's why you've been around Castle Spectacle so much lately. My best wishes to you two lovebirds, then. With your combined talonts, I am sure the land will prosper.
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[[I don't seem to be able to find a definitiion for it.]] by
on 2015-06-06 00:38:00 UTC
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[[Input the plural, and Google asks me if I mean "talents". Input the singular, and I get League of Legends references.]]
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There wouldn't be one by
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[[KtB is making puns on Thanasius' corvid nature. Lovebirds, talon, see?]]
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:38:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence ((and I don’t actually know whether you even intend to participate in this)), but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
Return letter, delivered by an annoyed bat. by
on 2015-06-07 18:44:00 UTC
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To the so-called “Archivist's Apprentice”:
You have made an enemy today, Hermit. I do not like being accused of despotism for no good reason, and without proof. Nor do I like this laissez faire form of government you are promoting; if anything, the fit should rule. Of course, this criterion excludes myself – after all, I have my own Barony to consider; which, of course, makes your accusation not only baseless, but negligent and treasonous as well.
Cease making baseless accusations, lest you will find the Riding's form of government the least of your concerns.
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You should not try to threaten me, Monk by
on 2015-06-07 20:06:00 UTC
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But since I don’t strive for a fight, I will admit that I have no hard evidence for your personal involvement in this conspiracy. On the other hand, I have not seen you objecting to other baron’s attempts to force all sorts of weird ideas on a nation that has not even formed yet, never considering to ask the people who probably know best what will be best for them.
The fit should rule, you say? Who has been chosen to decide who is the fittest? I have to ask.
Hieronymus the hermit.
((I’m afraid this quarrel cannot go on for long. By sheer luck, I had lots of spare time over the last four days, but these holidays are coming to an end now.
And apparently, my internet connection is just breaking down. Got three attempts to post this.
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I do not threaten, I promise. by
on 2015-06-07 20:37:00 UTC
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Not everybody sticks their nose into every single thing in existence, Hermit. As a rule I prefer not to meddle in others' affairs – unlike you, it would seem. Not to mention that there have been no “weird ideas” concerning the Riding's governance – just Baron Phobos' usual, transparent attempts at a power grab, the Poor Cynick's suggestion of appointing an assembly of legislators, and Baron Eagleshadow's original proposal. The only “weird idea” is yours, that this frankly absurd Wechian way of governance should be further propagated.
Furthermore, your perceived grievances against the Baronial Council aside, I am a Baron of this Union and you will treat me with the proper respect.
Nonetheless, I shall answer your question: the general populace do not have the merit to rule themselves. Let it be that a series of tests shall be devised according to the qualities desired of the Riding's rulers, and whosoever passes them with flying colours shall rule the new country. That way, the rulers can be as many or as few as needed, for there is no doubt that this new country requires competent rulers.
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Letter to Baron Thanasius Ampelius by
on 2015-06-07 23:36:00 UTC
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So you admit that you skirt your duty? No, scratch this. Insults will take us nowhere.
You have some right to accuse me of sticking my nose out too far, since the Riding's form of government really should be none of my concerns. The letters that upset you so much were an attempt to rectify this failure by finding some prospective Riders and make them speak for themselves.
But you, Sir, should stick your nose into the Council’s affairs, because it is your duty as a Baron.
Your idea of a series of tests actually makes sense, although you neglected to say who will devise these tests. If leadership seems necessary, the leaders should be found by reasonable means. Why don’t you take this to the Council, to discuss it with your fellow Barons, rather than writing letters to me, whose business this should not be?
Sir, I apologize for being a hermit who is not used to deal with authority.
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Return letter, delivered by a cowering Darkenbeast by
on 2015-06-08 00:32:00 UTC
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You will not tell me what my duty as a Baron is. It is solely toward the campaign I lead against the Marizu and the residents of my Barony, and it is not your place to decree that I should emulate your baseborn ways and interfere in matters in which I have no stake; first you insisted that the Barons were solely war-leaders, yet now you demand – demand! – that I will make what is an essentially civilian decision. Your inconsistent gall is appalling.
Furthermore, it is not for the Ridders, whosoever they may be, to decide the form of the Riding's government – this is simply your accursed Wechian democracy again, but wrapped in another's skin and smuggled in in the dark of the night.
Moreover, I demand a formal apology, for not only have you been incredibly condescending, you have also libellously accused me of despotism.
-Baron Thanasius Ampelius
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Second, he's beginning to sound like an old reactionary...
Third: Darkenbeast, for reference.)) -
Milord, by
on 2015-06-08 09:39:00 UTC
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Apparently I am too stupid to follow your arguments. May I, and you, like it or not, everything that is discussed at the Baronial Council is a matter in which every baron has a stake, just because every baron is a member of the Baronial Council; unless, of course, you convince your fellow barons that this is a matter that should not be decided by the Baronial Council.
But I am only a civilian, and a hermit to boot, who is not skilled in the finesses of diplomacy and politicks, and will leave this now to people who are better suited. I hereby declare that I fully trust into the Baronial Council’s ability to eventually come to a decision that is best for the people of Plort and for the campaign against the Marizu, and I formally apologize for implying that any of the barons may have bad intentions.
Hieronymus the hermit
((No hard feelings. It is sad that Hieronymus has to retreat so abruptly, but the work on my desktop glares at me more threateningly than your Darkenbeast. I’m still going to post another speech that was already mostly prewritten, but then I have to leave.
HG)) -
The Baron sighed. by
on 2015-06-08 15:43:00 UTC
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Thanasius Ampelius slapped the scroll with an open hand. “I simply do not believe it. First he accuses me of despotism, then he demands that I fix this yet-to-be-born nation’s problems, and now he simply turns tail? Pterry’s Nice Hat, what’s next? He’ll decide to overthrow the Barons and install himself as the sole ruler of this island?”
“I highly doubt that, Than,” Lady Iximaz sighed, using her belt knife to break open the seal on another scroll. “Hieronymus has never struck me as that type of man; it seems to me as though he simply wants what is best. He just… has an unfortunate way of going about it.”
“I swear I was this close” — the monk indicated a distance no longer than an inch with his thumb and forefinger — “to going after him and dragging him by the scruff of his neck to Skypcht, to be tried for treason and libel.” He sighed. “He apologised, though.”
“And yet, for some reason you are not pleased by this,” Iximaz said, showing her knack for stating the obvious.
“It feels insincere. ‘Apparently I am too stupid to follow your arguments’ — that reeks of passive aggressiveness to me.” Thanasius leaned back in his chair, crossing his hands behind his head and letting his voluminous sleeves fall down.
Iximaz shrugged. “Perhaps that is the case, but I would appreciate you not having the old hermit thrown in prison. His services as a Beytah are invaluable when I am able to contact him, and I would hate having to find another.”
“As things are, I think leaving him to rot in Skypcht’s prison would cause a diplomatic incident.” He leaned forward again and dragged his hands down his face in frustration.
Iximaz set her scroll aside and got up, coming around the table to wrap an arm around Thanasius’ shoulders. “Perhaps that would not be such a good idea, no,” she said dryly.
“But it is sorely tempting.” He leaned back to touch a finger to Iximaz’s cheek. “Gods give me strength.”
Iximaz pulled him into a hug. “I trust you will find the strength on your own.”
Thanasius let her hug him, and she could feel him untense. “May I present a dissenting viewpoint, my lady?” he asked.
“Of course, Than.”
“It is not my own strength I rely on.” He looked out of the window and on to the sky. “I think I have learned well enough that with a friend I can be so much more.”
“Careful, there,” Iximaz said, laughing. “Any more clichéd a sentence and you will be sent to live with the Marizu. I hear they are fond of such things.”
“Oh, hush, Ixie dearest.” His eyes glinted mischievously. “I hear tell that those damned creatures are not the owners of what lies beneath those clichés.”
“You’re doing it again,” she deadpanned.
“I didn’t notice,” he said dryly. “I thought I was saying something extremely witty and original. Was I not, Ixie milady?”
“Not particularly, Than,” she said, pulling away and moving to pick up Hieronymus’ letter. “So, what do you plan on doing about this?” she asked, waving it slightly.
“On one hand, he apologised. On the other… I do not forget such slights, milady. I am not one to keep grudges, usually, but when I do, I do not forget.” He sighed again and started looking for a quill. “I think I will terminate this sorry affair. But I’ll be watching him like a hawk from here on.”
“Not a crow?” Iximaz muttered to herself, going to sit back down.
“How droll.” Thanasius dried the ink, rolled the parchment and stretched. “Administration and letters are simply my favourite pastime.”
“Oh, don’t I know it.” Iximaz sighed and propped her chin up on her hand. “How I look forward to the council ending so I might leave for another raid!”
“I couldn’t have said it better myself.” The monk got up. “Come on, let us go. This room is stuffy and the weather outside looks rather inviting. Would you kindly accompany me on a walk, milady?”
“Gladly.” -
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((Must keep this in mind for the next biographical update.))
"While Hieronymus was supposed to travel between Arkive and the Freewep river, he somehow arrived at the annually Baronial Council, where he barely escaped imprisonment and prosecution for treason and libel by Baron Thanasius Ampelius. Had he not conveniently gone lost in the wood of Kar’eer again, Hieronymus would certainly have talked his head off."
((No, the chronist will not take position. The horrible details of the offenses are left to the reader's imagination.))
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A Letter, appearing in a burst of fire and smoke by
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To Hieronymus,
I have dwelt in the monastery of Spectacle in Skypcht for a number of years and have no intention of leaving. I should like to know why you thought I'd be interested in picking up all of my research and work, leaving my friends, and moving to an entirely new part of Plort.
Also, you are aware that I have lived, fought, and worked with Thanasius Ampelius for many years, correct? It would be in your best interest if you didn't accuse my friend of such things without hard proof. -
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[[Pretend that post's author was 'Karrin the Blue' and ended with this:]]
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To Karrin the Blue, Knight of Plort,
greatings and sincere apologies. Apparently I forgot – or may never have been aware – that you are known as "firemagic" beyond the mistwall. In no way did I intend to make you leave your home. My letters should only have been delivered to civilians and knights who did not yet reveal their abode.
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To Apprentice Hieronymus,
I have little care for your addressing system's faults. Shall I take your apology in this letter as an apology for the libel you have written about Baron Ampelius, as you have yet to provide any proof to your claims of his wrongdoings?
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I adore your determination to defend your friend. But I prefer discussing my issues with the Baron himself. I am sure he does not need your protection.
Good night, Milady. I hope we will converse again under better circumstances.
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Letter, delivered in a rather large burst of fire by
on 2015-06-08 00:37:00 UTC
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Hermit,
While altering the purpose of a conversation in order to end it can be an effective tactic when one is losing, it rather relies on the other person not knowing what you are doing. I might have been satisfied if you had in fact apologized for libeling the Baron as you implied you did here, but unfortunately for everyone you have yet to do so.
Additionally, it would be wise if you avoided condescending to a knight of the realm, lest you further damage your reputation.
Karrin the Blue, Knight of Plort -
Your message could not be delivered. by
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To our deepest regret we must inform you that Hieronymus the hermit has left his last known location, but did not yet arrive at his intended destination. He may be lost in the wood of Kar’eer again, although we cannot find him anywhere in Iric.
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((Sorry, it feels wrong to let this loose end hang around, but after stressful workdays I cannot think of a graceful way to loose this fight, and I should certainly not try to win.
Before we fall into a plothole caused by mismatched timelines, please let us pretend that Karrin the Blue's message was delayed by the hermit's newly set up anti fireburst shield. (He doesn't like to have his manuscripts burnt, not to speak of his robes or nose.) I'm not saying that he could compete with her, but the delay may have given him enough time to leave the Council and be lost.
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[[KtB has never been called firemagic in Plort. That was me messing up the author thing, which is why I made a post saying to pretend that I had not messed up the author thing.]]
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((ThatÂ’s what I figured)) by
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((Real-Life Hieronymus, living beyond the mistwall and writing this, was not aware that you are KtB. I tried to imply this without going OOC))
((It is past mid-night here. I’m shutting down.))
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((Just noting...)) by
on 2015-06-08 01:09:00 UTC
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((That the stuff past the Mistwall - Arell, Ydyff, etc - is still very much in the world of Plort, in the same way Valinor still exists in Arda in a way. RL-RL doesn't exist in Plort.))
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[[Ah. Thanks.]] (nm) by
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[[definition* Derp.]] (nm) by
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Hail and congratulations! by
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I feel certain you and Baron Ampelius will be good for each other. :)
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*Title. Fail. ^^; (nm) by
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Congratulations! by
on 2015-06-05 04:50:00 UTC
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In the event of a union ceremony, I eagerly await your invitation. In the meantime, best of fortune to both of you!
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Well, good dealings should not be delayed. by
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Such is the Malay proverb. I expect My Lady's jubilant marriage any day soon, and should you need funds to pay for the expenses, Critta'-Kalthin's coffers will flow freely for your needs. However, I am ignorant of the marriage rituals in Plort, thus I will prepare based upon Malay wedding requirements, except when commanded otherwise.
♪Renjis-renjis Dipilis!♪
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((Woah, um, guys, we're just dating.)) (nm) by
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[People are anxiously waiting for you to get married] by
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[Critta'-Kalthin is worried when you are single or have not yet decided on someone to carry your legacy, or at least act as actual leader when you're lost to the world someday. I'll explain to them the misunderstading.]
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I apologise regarding what I said up there. by
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Three people have find it uncomfortable regarding what I wrote there. I didn't know about this matter, and I must profusely apologise for making fellow Boarders uncomfortable.
What I did was I am pressuring a character to marry. No matter what the reason, forced marriages are wrong. I understand that PPC Board intends to remain a safe place for everyone, and any attempts to coerce people against their will, or making people uncomfortable in any way, are not acceptable here.
I am sorry for this, and I will do my best to prevent this from happening again. Feel free to complain if I am making any of you uncomfortable. -
((I think the main thing is that...)) by
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((...Plort reflects RL--hence the grand total of two married couples in it--and so what you wrote came off as saying that Desdendelle and Iximaz--the real ones, not the Plort versions--should be getting married. Within the context of a medieval society, what you wrote makes sense (to me, at least), but when you add in the RL element--as in, the setting is the only thing that changes for Plort, not the relationships--it sounds creepier. That's mainly where the upset and objections come in, as far as I'm aware.
I'll also apologize preemptively if I've worded anything here in a way that doesn't reflect what people are actually thinking or causes offense as well. I know I'm not exactly as close to this as some of you, and might be viewing it a little differently. Please feel free to correct what I've said. ~DF)) -
Okay, seriously, stop that. (nm) by
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((Dude, whoa. That's... kinda creepy.)) (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 17:08:00 UTC
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((Dude, no.)) by
on 2015-06-05 17:07:00 UTC
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((Honestly, you're being extremely creepy here. Please stop.))
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[I apologise.] by
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[I didn't know that this matter is sensitive or taboo to all of you. I apologise again for causing trouble.]
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Hail, milady! by
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I hope I'm not interrupting anything.
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((Me neither, but it's fun!)) by
on 2015-06-05 03:39:00 UTC
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((My character is newly arrived from the Empire (Fancicton.net), so she's still learning; thus my blunders are explained in-universe. Anyway, everyone here is fine if you're not perfect. I've already made a mini and misspelled something, so I think I'm off to a good start! XD))
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*gasp* by
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Milady Iximaz hast chosen a suitor! Glory day, glory day! Let celebrations be had through all of Plort!
To the noble Baron Ampelius *curtsies*, I extend my utmost, sincerest support and service; though I am but a lowly civilian, yet will the safety of Milady Iximaz and youself be of the utmost importance to me! I swear unto you, good Baron, that from this day forward, not a-
*gasps again* Oh, Milady, I lapsed into urple again, did I not! Forsooth, I apologize! Alack! I have done thee wrongly! Apologies, Milady- deepest apologies! It shall not happen again! I swear it!
((This is Alleb the Odd, she's...odd. She's newly arrived from the Empire, and still mostly fangirl, which is why she talks so urpley. Will anyone care if she randomly pokes her head in strange places? It would be quite in-character for her.)) -
A most excellent match, milady Iximaz. by
on 2015-06-04 20:18:00 UTC
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That is, I believe it to be so. Though I do not know milord Baron as well as some, he seems--if I may say so--a nicely mannered fellow, and a native of Ydyff besides. I wish you much joy in your union.
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Something of interest, indeed. by
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[The monk stared at the gathered people.]
You do not expect me to suddenly become a lovestruck fool, do you? Gods, you do, right?
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All I expect, sir Baron... by
on 2015-06-04 21:10:00 UTC
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Is that thou comportst thyself in a manner befittin' the nobility of milady's court. Milady is a gentle woman, to whom violence may only come easy when 'tis directed at the Marizu.
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I assure you that, unlike you, I am capable of polite conversation and subtlety.
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Art thou indeed? by
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For sure, you have the knowing of the likes o' me, sir Baron. I be unsubtle when it comes to lettin' gentlefolk know of my displeasures an' grievances. But mark you this, good sir Baron, and mark it well, for it applies to me;
In the book o' tales called by folks hereabout Of The Banks Of The Emm, that most cultured of prophets E'Yan speaks of his beautiful singing ships. There be one, sir Baron, whose name I shall give'ee to recall an' apply to whomsoever you sees fit.
Mistake Not...
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Are you threatening me, ruffian? by
on 2015-06-04 21:31:00 UTC
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You might discover that, like the Aiderann of his tales, you have bitten more than you can chew.
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[written on parchment, folded, and sealed in blue-green wax] by
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Milord Baron, we have perhaps not spoken as much as we should have upon your previous visits to De'endee. If you are to court the Lady Iximaz, I respectfully suggest that this should change. We do not, after all, lack common ground of which to speak; and further, as I have sworn my loyalty to milady Iximaz, any suitor of hers is my concern as well.
As your original home is in Ydyff, a land which I do hold most dear, I am predisposed towards approval; however, milord Baron, should you toy with the affections of my liege lady, I shall not hesitate to turn against you. I am a Knight of Plort, as you know most excellently well, and I have aided numerous battles against the Marizu. Long have I studied the knightly arts and those of magecraft, and in many lands, besides.
Should you prove false to the Lady Iximaz in any direction, I shall not hesitate to give you cause for regret.
With the utmost sincerity, I remain
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[Scribbled on a small, folded piece of paper] by
on 2015-06-04 21:08:00 UTC
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Milady, do I look like the sort of person to play with anybody's feelings, not to mention the person I have just declared my love of (in an admittedly sardonic way)?
Nevertheless: your loyalty to your liege is heartwarming. I would gladly converse with you more often, as things were; it would gladden my heart to hear the tongue of my ancestors spoken again.
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((There's paper? I didn't know)) [Written clearly, unsealed] by
on 2015-06-05 04:53:00 UTC
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Milord Baron, I would not presume to know your habits. Indeed, I cannot know them; we are not well enough acquainted. However, as you agree that our conversations should increase in frequency, I can only hope that this will soon change.
The tongue of our ancestors is, unfortunately, spoken by very few of the good people of Plort. I, too, will be glad to hear and speak it with greater frequency.
Knight Eshakhar
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((Does this mean we're going to start writing in Hebrew here? Or in transliterated Hebrew? Or provide translations, or something...? Hmmm. ~DF)) -
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((Admittedly, the quality isn't very high, but yes, there's paper.))
As would I, though great care must be taken not to adversely affect the environment.
-B. T. Ampelius
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[unsealed, folded, written on oddly-shaped parchment] by
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I should hope, milord, that we both have learned enough to be able to avoid such accidents. However, it is true that even the most controlled individuals do occasionally make mistakes; as such, we should indeed take care.
I look forward to speaking further with you, milord Baron.
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My history, if it pleases you, Baron. by
on 2015-06-04 18:45:00 UTC
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“Fey Alleb was born many a year ago in the Kingdom of Medellurth. Not a day went by that she did not hear the stories of her native land, and long to explore the vast reaches of the world. But Alleb was small and weak, and knew not what a truly terrible place the world can be. When Alleb came of age, she took up her trusty (and rusty) sword, packed a meager lunch, and set off to explore Weab.
“Dark days followed, for Alleb was yet young and inexperienced, and knew not the terrors of Weab. She wandered far and abroad from Medellurth, venturing into lands both fair and foul. First she came upon Doktaru, and found it good. She settled there for long months, learning better the ways of a knight. But she felt the call of wanderlust, and departed. None bid her farewell.
“Alleb came next to Air’ihpotre, and though she found the lands sweet and sad, she remained only briefly. For Air’ihpotre reminded her too keenly of her home, and she could not bear it long.
“Alleb wandered farther away from her beloved Medellurth, till only the memory of it remained. She visisted the lands of Fantropa, Surelock, and Lozz. Finally, when she was weary from her travels, she stumbled into the great and terrible Empire of Fanvik-Neht. Yet she knew not the depths of its evil, or of its foul alliance with the Marizu League. And so Alleb remained there for many years, learning better the ways of her sword, and (thousand curses!) took it up in defense of that dark land! She grew in in the eyes of the Empire, which named her a captain, and she knew not how foul her own deeds were.
“So it was that Alleb was sent on a secret mission to Plort. She was ordered, by that ever-cursed Marizu League, to scale the cliffs of Konti-Nyuum, and learn all she could of Plort’s defenses. And so, in a small craft, Alleb sailed to Plort and climbed the cliffs of Wechi, marvelling at their breadth and height. After recovering from her climb, she hooded and cloaked herself that she might not be known, and deepened her voice so that she might not be perceived for who she was.
“And so she went out through Wechi, and into Borrd, bracing herself for the foul-ness of Plort of which she had been warned. But it never came. Where she had expected a dark land, full of terrible deeds and uncouth peoples, she found a happy, thriving country, into which she was welcomed, as it were, with open arms. Alleb then perceived what a fool she had been, and that it was the Empire, not Plort, that was truly dark. She resolved to go to the nearest Baron and seek forgiveness for her wrongdoings, and so came to the Keep De’endee, of fair Lady Iximaz. Lady Iximaz, in her wisdom and mercy, offered Alleb a second chance, which she greedily took. The other peoples of the Borrd, however, are not so sure that Alleb is reformed. They whisper that she is still carrying out her foul errand, and that she plans to assassinate the courageous Lady Iximaz.
“Some even go so far as to claim that she serves neither Plort nor the Empire, but a third Kingdom, great and terrible in its power, yet unseen. They say that the symbol Alleb wears upon her neck, and the device on her heraldry, that of a golden cross, bodes of.. something. But of what, they cannot say. All that is truly known is the wanderings of Alleb from Borrd to Wechi, sometimes even to Iric. There are some reports of Alleb fashioning weapons for herself- of what kind and how doughty, none know. But Alleb is here, and her purposes unknown.”
Heraldry: If I may, I would like a golden cross, encircled by white flowers, on a field of blue. Thank you, great Baron! *bows* -
Arms. by
on 2015-06-05 09:58:00 UTC
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I've gone for Elvish arms for you, what with the Medellurth connection, and the fact that your description was basically a circle already. That means you've got an equal-armed cross, though hopefully it's nice enough to offset that.
Nis blue: canta nastar alta tera, arm of a golden cross; yunquë miri, white flower.
Yes, you get twelve flowers, because symbolism is fun.
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((Oooh, thanks!)) by
on 2015-06-05 17:42:00 UTC
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((I love it! :D Symbolism IS fun. Ehehe, thank you!))
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A wonderful story... by
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... but it is a tiny bit too long; exactly one word:
She grew in in the eyes of the Empire, which named her a captain, and she knew not how foul her own deeds were.
What a weird coincidence.
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Thanks be to you, by
on 2015-06-04 22:11:00 UTC
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great Hiernoymous, grey of beard and sharp of eye! Praise be unto you, praise!
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Ah, another mini-me. by
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Now Hieronymous and Hiernoymous can play together.
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So sorry, sir! by
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((Really though, I'm very sorry. That's the third mini I've made since I arrived.))
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((On that Civ IV play throughÂ…)) by
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((I was both pleased and surprised to see that AI!PC made it all the way to the end without getting swallowed up by the other baronies. Even participated in a few successful wars! Too bad it never really got beyond a mid-tier power.))
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He had an advantage: by
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He was the only person with iron. ^_^
I think you had three or four sources of it, all right around your capital. Which is a huge bonus. You also had a starting city right in the middle of a forest, which lets you clear-cut the whole thing and get masses of bonus production.
The reason you didn't expand very much is that you were pretty much hemmed in from the start. You could and did expand eastwards, but Neshomeh and Phobos were pretty close by.
Compare that with Iximaz, where I had to resurrect Makari to have even a hope of containing her... yeah, the map of Plort is a wee bit imbalanced.
(Am currently playing through that map as Huinesoron. I've taken out Thanasius and stolen your capital, so I'm doing better than AI!Me, at least!)
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A 'wee' bit? :P by
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And as for the document... "July, that's both the other major world religions you're feuding with now." Truly, fully in character.
And Cassie declaring war on me! Goodness.
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Who or how? by
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Yeah, Barony July was pretty small. Along with Makari and Thanasius, you started with just one city; everyone else had two or more. I think I was particularly mean to you - you were Rome, but without access to iron. Oops. ^^' (Cities, obviously, were partitioned based on what castles lie within the barony's borders; since yours doesn't actually exist, your only city was your old ruins.)
As for who everyone was, I have a list of... most of that. I selected a couple for general feel (notably, Kaitlyn as Hatty), and then selected a primary trait for each baron. Since there are eleven traits, and I started with eleven barons, I went for one each. Then I chose from the available options.
Civs were assigned based either on their unique unit (for warlike leaders) or unique buildings (for peaceful); in Civ 4, you can disconnect leader from civilisation. So my original 11 were:
Thanasius - Genghis Khan - Spain
VixenMage - Pericles - Native America
Phobos - Mehmed II - China
Araeph - Huayna - Ottoman
Cassie - Louis XIV - Carthage
PC - Darius I - Mali
Neshomeh - Lincoln - Korea
Kaitlyn - Hatty - Persia
Iximaz - Cathy - HRE
Huinesoron - Sitting Bull - Celts
Dann - Churchill - Sumeria
The funniest moments while playing were watching Neshomeh Lincoln grimace and facepalm every time someone did something ridiculous. ^^
But that setup had a big problem: VixenMage and Dann were taking over the map. So I added you and Makari in to balance out the east. You were Rome and Makari was China. Makari was roleplaying as Suleiman, and you were... um...
Oh, that's right. You were Izzy. ^_^ Which explains the 'mad religious feuds' aspect of things. Isabella is a liiiittle bit crazy about that. If I'd given you iron, you might well have dominated the eastern landscape.
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I had a suspicion. by
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And that rather makes sense, having combined Rome and Isabella for me in game.
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:41:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence ((and I don’t actually know whether you even intend to participate in this)), but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
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[[Dude, that post of July's was OOC. Plus Plort!July is a baron anyways. It seems like Plort!HG is basically spam-emailing people.]]
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Okay, I got it by
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No spamming of people who only posted OOC. (That would then also have applied to you.)
I know that July is a baron. But she holds no barony, and has no known abode today. Thus, she went onto the list of people who might be interested in what is going on in the region where they actually may be living.
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((Civ 5's better anyway. *snaps fingers in Z-formation*)) (nm) by
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... let's agree to disagree. (nm) by
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((Okay, sure, but...)) by
on 2015-06-06 17:39:00 UTC
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((Civ 5, at a mechanics and clarity level, is a hell of a lot more user-friendly than Civ 4. I'll grant you that the 'pedias are less in-depth than they were and the new graphics style for the leader screens aren't to everyone's taste, but I vastly prefer it to Civ 4 simply on the basis that Deity feels difficult again. I like it, and I like the Civs included, and it feels a lot nicer to work with than Civ 4 did. This is purely my opinion.
((Also Civ 4 blobbed together Native Americans. I am most decidedly Not A Fan of that little design choice.)) -
((Okay, the Minecraft version? Super-cool.)) by
on 2015-06-04 15:11:00 UTC
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foofooman3 and I are having a load of fun exploring!
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((The 10 secrets aren't too hard to find either)) (nm) by
on 2015-06-04 16:56:00 UTC
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((Well, they weren't meant to be.)) by
on 2015-06-04 16:58:00 UTC
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((I think at least one of them is just sort of... sitting on the ground away from the main path.))
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((Also:)) by
on 2015-06-04 15:21:00 UTC
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ERMIGERSH YOU INCLUDED THE LIBRARY AND IT'S ADORABUBBLE!
One of these days I'll have to post screenshots of the full-sized Keep De'endee I made. The library is still my favorite part. ^w^also I'm totally not creeping around Castle Kwenya very nice tree you got there -
Knight Profile? by
on 2015-06-04 14:45:00 UTC
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So, as I've mentioned, my planned avatar within Plort is Ser Dylan Read of the Void. Is it alright if I post his bio here?
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Of course. by
on 2015-06-04 14:55:00 UTC
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Each and every member of the PPC Community is also a resident of Plort. [...] If you haven't already written your history, why not join in and give one? There's a guide on doing so on the CycloWiki, and a glossary outlining most of the websites and fandoms in the setting.
For entertainment value, please post your bios here on the Board
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Well, here goes... by
on 2015-06-04 15:05:00 UTC
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Heraldry
Ser Read follows the traditions of the land of Gurrm in terms of his knighthood. His shield depicts a braced silver scorpion, quartered by music notes, on a green field. His words are "Remember My Name."
History
Ser Read is a new-made knight, once a citizen-in-hiding for a year. While he arrived from Tivit, that is not his homeland. He is one of the most widely-traveled knights of Konti-Nyuum, and he has a history in such lands as the beastwoman-populated Monsume, the bleak and politically-oriented Gurrm, the treasure-filled Land of the Shuvell Nights, the Independent State of Pai-Zoh, The Empire of Blanc-Lupus, and stranger places still.
After finally achieving knighthood, Ser Read brought swift justice to a Marizu invasion of the land of Monsume, and drowned the leader of said incursion. He escaped before any of Monsume's denizens could "thank" him.
He returned to Monsume after learning that the land's king had been impersonated by one of the Marizu. He hunted the imposter into a secret Marizu outpost in Monsume, and burned it to the ground. Once more, Ser Read hastily fled Monsume. Exactly why he would leave a land filled with beautiful women that wished to bed him, none but the knight know.
After his second journey to Monsume, Ser Read realized that he had a gift for hunting imposters. Many Marizu that impersonated nobles of distant lands met swift justice at the knight's hand.
Despite his success, Ser Read rarely receives recognition for his accomplishments. Many times, he returns triumphant to Borrd and finds that few care. While he doesn't mind the lack of praise, he worries that he is destined to be forgotten, always eclipsed by the works of greater knights.
Personality
Ser Dylan Read is moody, eccentric, difficult to understand, and lonely. His odd ideas and strange behaviors make him unsettling to others at the best of times, and do nothing to improve his relationships with others. He desires companionship, but has yet to find anyone in Plort willing to befriend him. He has made several desperate attempts to forget his loneliness; forgetting the rest of Plort and focusing on hunting Marizu on one occasion, considering leaving the Union altogether on another. Nevertheless, he is loyal to the cause of Plort, and is willing to serve any baron who will have him.
As mentioned, Ser Read is deathly afraid of being forgotten. Many of his mad antics are done out of a desperate desire to be remembered, for good or ill. He has even considered melting down and reforging his weapons, although barons and other knights always convince him not to.
He is also known to prefer the company of animals; perhaps his fondness of the land of Monsume is related to this, despite his efforts to avoid the populace's affections. He can often be found conversing with dogs, rats, cats and other animals. It has been proven that the best way to improve his mood is to present him with kittens, puppies or similarly small and endearing animals.
Weapons
Oddly, Ser Read's weapon of choice is a shovel, which he calls Valor. It is definitely made of some exotic material, as it is lighter than any shovel has a right to be. He also carries a hand crossbow named Kalablilu. He recently acquired two other weapons: a gem-encrusted, serrated saber named Mantis and a warhammer he calls Hobb.
OOC notes
Yes, I borrowed his title and the idea of words from A Song of Ice and Fire. I'll change the title if need be.
Also, Plort!me's name is actually based on my real name. "Dylan" sounds similar to my first name (and people do accidentally call me Dylan a lot), and my last name does contain something you read.
Ser Read's attitudes are largely based on my own. A lot of times, I post a story, only to be very quickly buried by one written by Iximaz or SkarmorySilver or what have you. I feel like the things I write are sometimes ignored in favor of the existing PPC behemoths, and honestly, being ignored and forgotten is worse than any criticism.
As for the loneliness bit, well, that's my real-life personality bleeding through. It also isn't something that I plan on resolving, because a) I don't believe wish-fulfillment is ever a good thing, and b) I'm a complete sadist to the characters I create.
Other things
Gurrm: George R. R. Martin
Monsume: Monster Musume
Pai-Zoh: Paizo Games
Blanc-Lupus: White Wolf Games
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Hmmm... by
on 2015-06-05 04:46:00 UTC
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I like where you're going with this! But honestly, I share the same concerns that you do, though of course I'm not such an ass about them the way I used to be. So that means Skaer'morys The Silver would find Ser Read... relatable, I should say. Though of course, his interests are different.
Y'know what, here, have an addendum to Ser Read's history...
Not long after joining the Kingdom of Plort, the wandering shovel-wielding knight happened upon a strange and amazing spectacle. A Marizu warrior from the land of Emelpy Fim had been spotted just outside the kingdom. Ser Read, then a curious young citizen, snuck over to the battlefield to watch the fight. What he expected was for the warrior's head to be sliced off by a sword... what he got was the surprising spectacle of a warhorse with a coat and mane as colorful as the sky running down the invader, tearing her to pieces with its pounding hooves and dagger-like teeth.
Mounted upon the wild steed was a young man clad in silver scale mail and adorned with crimson feathers. Ser Read, impressed by this man's taming of a flesh-eating horse, came up to greet him (at the risk of losing one of his limbs) and ask him to share his secrets. The rider simply chuckled, and told him that once he achieved Knighthood, he would be there to lend a helping hand. With that, he spurred his steed and rode away - but not before giving him his name: Skaer'morys the Silver.
When Ser Read went on his first mission after gaining Knighthood, Skaer'morys was one of the first to hear of his quest to the land of Monsume. Later on, Skaer'morys attracted Read's attention once again after using Falchion, Rasheeda, and his corpse-tearing raptor, Velociripper, to infiltrate the state of Desu Noto and destroy a high-ranking Marizu general by the name of Darq Y'gami. Upon returning, Skaer'morys would find Ser Read with a surprising request: to journey with him to F'Naf and get rid of another one of the Marizu.
And that's how a friendship was born...
(Hope I got everything right! I referenced three of my missions here, including my collab with Voyd. I'll update the list of Skaer'morys' creatures later!) -
Since when is Plort a kingdom? by
on 2015-06-05 11:40:00 UTC
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I haven’t seen any king around here.
Other than that, I really like this.
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According to the Cyclopaedia... by
on 2015-06-05 14:52:00 UTC
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Plort was first a Protectorate. Today it is a Union - that is, a federation not dissimilar to the United States - of four different nations: The Protectorate of Borrd (an oligarchy ruled by a baronial council); the Republic of Iric (a democracy); the Commonwealth of Wechi (a direct democracy in theory; in practice, the baron does stuff until someone disagrees); and the Refuge of Ozerbord (an autocracy).
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((One slight change:)) by
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A Marizu warrior from the land of Emelpy Fim had been spotted just outside the kingdom.
I believe that should be "Fimvik-Neht," not "Emelpy Fim."
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So that's what it's called? Okay then! by
on 2015-06-06 00:29:00 UTC
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And that would be Tara Swift, from my first DMS mission.
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Arms (attempt one). by
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I'm not really clear on what you're going for, so I figure the best option is to take a stab at it and let you correct me. ^_^
Per saltire, all vert, central a scorpion argent, in each quarter a musical note argent.
Go wild on the corrections, I'm not confident in this interpretation at all.
Also, I assume all the lands mentioned are Scholars' Empire territories? Actually, are most of them computer games? They can be sub-nations of Vidya Gaym; it's easily big enough for that.
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Oh my lord it's better than I imagined. by
on 2015-06-04 15:37:00 UTC
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Also, not all of them are video games. Monster Musume is a manga, ASoIaF is literature, Pathfinder and Exalted are tabletop games. I think Shovel Knight might be the only video game I mentioned.
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So: by
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The Land of the Shuvell Nights is a region of Vidya Gaym. Monsume probably borders the Confederation of An-Emay, and may be part of a second Confederation: Mah-Ngah? I dunno, come up with a name. Gurrm is simply a land in the SE/ML. Pai-Zoh and Blanc-Lupus... somewhere out west, as part of the Are-Pea Alliance?
And does the coat of arms suit, then? I kind of like the impression of a singing scorpion, it makes my heart smile. ^_^
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Also, for Gurrm. by
on 2015-06-05 23:22:00 UTC
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To reflect the fact that fanfiction for Ice and Fire is technically banned, it has the best damn security in the big ol' web world. Thick walls (like Storm's End), endless guards (the gold cloaks), probably dragons (the Targaryens), and it's always bloody cold there (the Others).
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A Letter, delivered by Air'ihpotre Owl Post Service, by
on 2015-06-07 11:19:00 UTC
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because I am not aware of your current residence, but the owl will find you anyway.
This, actually, is the reason why I am writing to you. It seems possible that you live or intend to settle in the realm of the prospective nation of The Riding of Sittorese.
If this is truly the case, you should be aware that the barons of Plort, transgressing their duties as our military leaders, attempt to define the internal organization and civil government of your future home, and you should come or write to the Baronial Council to make your opinion known.
Being a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, but I firmly believe that you should not allow the barons meddling with your internal affairs.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
A Letter, delivered by Gurrmish Raven by
on 2015-06-07 13:46:00 UTC
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I have few thoughts one way or the other about who rules the realm. So long as it is not ground into the earth, I care little for the high lords and their
game of thronessquabbling over territory.
I only object if my own rights are taken from me.
~Ser Dylan Read, anointed knight of the Riding of Sittorese
Remember My Name
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Well MonMusu is getting a show next month. by
on 2015-06-04 16:36:00 UTC
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Anyway, I'm not sure when I can jump into this RP. Ser Read serves no particular barony; he'll work for anyone who'll have him.
Although Iximaz told me he's welcome in her land. -
The Rise and Fall of El-Jheycom by
on 2015-06-04 12:08:00 UTC
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(Yeah, I missed a bit.)
For those who are interested in the early history of Plort, a tale has been told, and now spreads widely:
The Rise and Fall of El-Jheycom tells of the history of that fair realm, from its origins in the lands of Triumvir Thalia, through its glorious rise to independence, down to its ignominious fall.
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A wonderful story... by
on 2015-06-04 19:16:00 UTC
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... but it is a tiny bit too long; exactly one word:
Some few of Thalia's people returned thence with him, but the memories of their departed Triumvir - and the the constant presence of armed soldiers bearing the arms of Cam the Ruthless - soon drove them once more into more peaceful lands.
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The Baronial Council is convened. by
on 2015-06-04 10:55:00 UTC
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See now, Konti-Nyuum,
What wonders the dawn brings,
All the light touches
Is yours now to own,
For our fallen heroes,
Whom our hearts avenge still,
Took this sacred country
And made it their own
Rise, commoners and nobles!
Rise up against the speshul!
For only through union
Shall our hearts fly free!
Welcome, one and all, to the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort! Here the Barons of Borrd, Iric, Wechi, and Ozerbord will meet to discuss and (theoretically) decide on matters of concern to the Union. All Civilians and Knights of the Union are also invited to visit the Council and contribute their questions and thoughts, though the ultimate decisions lie with the Barons.
The Barons and citizens of Plort are hereby invited to present their proposals for debate.
May the blessings of Kanun and Spelin be with the Council, and the blessings of all the deities of Weab which remain free of the Marizu scourge.
((I'm going to present my two proposals as separate sub-threads to this sub-thread; that way everything stays nice and tidy. Ha ha. ^_~ hS)) -
Baron Neshomeh sends her apologies. by
on 2015-06-04 15:07:00 UTC
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Greetings and salutations to all and sundry.
The Baron Neshomeh sends her regrets and sincere apologies that she will not be able to arrive for the council in a timely manner. She has just returned from a campaign in the land of Fantopra and is weary. Also, she has received a valuable new shipment for her personal library, and seeing that it is properly housed and that all records are in order is keeping her up and about when she should be in bed. She hopes her absence will be forgiven and trusts that her fellow barons will rule wisely in all things. If her input is required, this messenger stands ready to carry the word of the council to her in Castle Arkive.
Yours,
~Neshomeh, Baron, etc. etc.
(( In other words, I've got a bunch of coding to do, not to mention laundry and hopefully working on my co-write with Iximaz, too. I'll join in later if I have time, but there are just not enough hours in the day!
Fortunately, this is totally in keeping with Baron Neshomeh's character as a somewhat absent-minded person who is more interested in anything that smells of dust than she is in ruling. ^_^ It's a good thing the Wechians are an independent lot. )) -
The Eastern Dilemma by
on 2015-06-04 11:00:00 UTC
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A proposal by Baron Huinesoron, Protector of Ozerbord.
It has come to my attention that we have a serious population imbalance in the Union of Plort.
The lands west of the Larninkurvs are developing well; Wechi is a flourishing nation, Ozerbord and western Borrd have received a recent influx, and the settlements along the Hyparlink Route are growing slowly.
The situation east of the mountains, though, is worrying. Baron Cassie is often absent, and her deputy, Sir Ekyl, is rarely seen. Though Godreve and Tumblar are doing well, they stand alone in their barony, surrounded by little more than cattle ranches.
In western Iric, matters are even more grim: the most recent survey suggested that no more than a few hundred people live anywhere in Iric west of the river Sozeri. While I am sure La Wunj is as thronged as ever, and its trade with Autor and Somath-Aful is no doubt fruitful for the Republic, the fact remains that vast swathes of prime land are left fallow.
At the same time, the lands west of the Larninkurvs are unable to feed our knights. Much of the food produced in the fertile Gu-Gel basin is being shipped north, and while the profit is certainly desirable, it is having a negative impact on our military operations. Some of our knights have been forced to found petty kingdoms in Weab's northern wastes, simply to feed their soldiers on campaign.
There is a solution to this dilemma. It is somewhat drastic - nay, say rather 'dramatic' - but I feel it is the best option available to us:
I propose the creation of a fifth nation of the Union of Plort, to be ruled directly by this Baronial Council. It would encompass all of Borrd east of the mountains, and Iric west of the Kar'eer forest and the Sozeri (with precise borders to be determined). It would be a nation for our soldiers: a breadbasket for the Union of Plort, shipping food by way of Wechi to the battlegrounds of the Marizu League. The current baronial borders, needless to say, will not be altered at this time.
This new realm will be a return to the first days of Konti-Nyuum, when the Protectorate of Plort devoted all its energies to the war against the Marizu, and it should bear a name to match. The legendary Sittori people were the first to colonise northern Weab, long before the foundation of Fanvik-Neht, and our new nation should bear their name: the Riding of Sittorese.
Huinesoron, by the grace of Kanun Baron and Knight of Plort, Protector of Ozerbord, Custodian of Fanvik-Whirl, Marshal of the Order of Udisc, Scourge of the Marizu, Friend of Medellurth, &c &c &c
[Or 'writing of stories', if you prefer. I don't know whether to class this as correcting an omission, or recognising a new trend, but it's definitely true that a lot of people have recently been interacting with each other by cowriting missions, and by betaing each other's work. I think it's a big enough phenomenon to count alongside the Board, Wiki, Chat, and Other Board/RPs as a nation of Plort.
As to why I chose this location: well, partly for the in-universe reasons I listed. But mostly because the two towns in the area - Godreve [Google Drive] and Tumblar - are both named for places where people host missions. It is, I think, an appropriate setting for a military nation.] -
The ArchivistÂ’s ApprenticeÂ’s Other Speech by
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I can understand that the founding of a nation is more interesting than constructing barracks, armories and roads. But I am of the opinion that this should be brought to an end now, so that the Council can turn its attention to the urgent problem of burnt-down OFUM (and the upcoming celebration of the victory over the ypurs, and Critta-Kalthin’s promotion to City status).
So, firstly I present to the council this missive, signed by every and all known residents of the Commonwealth of Wechi (who bothered to respond to my request), for the barons consideration.
Secondly, I suggest that the prospective Riders of Sittorese be given time to assemble at a place they deem suitable, to discuss their internal affairs, and that they shall in due time report their decisions concerning the government of the Riding of Sittorese to the next Baronial Council, or to the councils interim keeper of the minutes of important events.
Thirdly, my personal opinion is that the ancient tradition of "Listen to your Beytahs, but don’t do everything they say without thinking it through yourself" should be the only law applicable in The Riding of Sittorees, but since I am a resident of Wechi, I can not speak for the Riders, and thus I will say no more. (I certainly don’t intend to start a bloody civil war over The Riding of Sittorees.)
HG, by common non-objection the Commonwealth of Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort.
((My short holidays are over, thus I may not longer be able to represent the Commonwealth of Wechi here.
In case prospective Riders of Sittorese actually want to vote about their government, these were the suggestions so far:
Direct rule by the Baronial Council (original proposal).
Let Phobos take over (proposed by Phobos).
A Conclave of Beytah (copyright by hS; since hS cannot suggest it in-character, HG half-heartedly adopted it).
A small legislative assembly whose members are appointed by the barons (suggested by PC).
Abovementioned assembly being chosen from valiant knights, knights famous for their co-operative riding, and practitioners of Beytah (hS’s response to Sir Ekyl).
A three-chamber-assembly (HG’s attempt to make this too complicated to work).
A Knights' Congress, a Cooperative Communion, and a Conclave of Beytah, mimicking the executive, legislative and judicative powers of a balanced democracy (hS’s attempt to make it work anyway).
An anarchy, where "Listen to your Beytahs, or don’t" is the only law (HG’s preference).
Let it be that a series of tests shall be devised according to the qualities desired of the Riding's rulers, and whosoever passes them with flying colours shall rule the new country. law (Thanasius private(?) correspondence).
Since nobody (except hS in his response to HG) mentioned elections to let the Riders at least choose their leaders, if they are not allowed to choose their form of government, Wechi’s opposition appears to be justified, and I wonder why no word was heard from Iric.
I assume that not wanting to vote demonstrates a preference for anarchy. It certainly doesn’t mean that, by common non-objection, the barons are allowed to do whatever they want to do.
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One final compromise proposal: by
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((AKA 'what I will put in the Cyclopaedia unless someone has an objection))
-That the Riding of Sittorese be created. ((This seems pretty uncontroversial at this point.))
-That the borders of the Riding be appointed as such:
((That leaves all three western baronial seats still in their current nations. It also means the Riding doesn't extend into Barony VixenMage. This is a new map, but I don't think there's any other viable geographic border.))
-That military affairs in the Riding be managed by Barons Cassie and Dann. ((That doesn't even need saying; it's the purpose of the baronial system.))
-That the production and distribution of sufficient grain for the knights of Plort be considered a military matter, without the same applying to other grain grown. ((New concept, but should be uncontroversial? Basically the Riding isn't allowed to self-govern itself out of achieving its designated task.))
-That in the absence of Baron Cassie, Sir Ekyl of Godreve be empowered to act in her stead. ((As he already does.))
-That in the event of the barons failing to fulfil their duties, the Baronial Council may step in at need. ((Again, part of the job description.))
-That the Riders of Sittorese be permitted to select their own form of governance; and that if they do not form a working system by the time the Baronial Council next convenes, the Council may at its discretion intervene. ((Ie, in real terms, 'let's just not say for now and anyone saying they live there next time can choose'. Given that we're not gonna get a consensus out of this thread, this seems pretty logical. Also basically in agreement with Hieronymus here.))
-That all flags, anthems, and unassigned place-names be designated by the Riders, at the next Baronial Council. ((Again, just bookkeeping.)
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All in favor of Baron Huinesoron's proposal? by
on 2015-06-08 13:21:00 UTC
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[the Lady raises her hand]
((No, she's totally not trying to get on Eagleshadow's good side to get another ally in her pocket, what on earth are you talking about.)) -
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((But then, you all knew that was coming. -Phobos))
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Yes, thank you, Phobos, for your words of wisdom. (nm) by
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I am surprised you can even hear my words over your rabble. (nm) by
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Considering you seem to back up your arguments with volume.. by
on 2015-06-08 22:46:00 UTC
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...is it really any wonder I was able to hear you? Honestly, it is a wonder that Neshomeh is able to hear herself think.
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Ill timing and ill winds... by
on 2015-06-06 06:08:00 UTC
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...have one again delayed my arrival to council. ((That and being on a journey deep in the wilds of California - I mean Kar'eer- with naught but my phone for internet access.))
The proposal for the creation of the Riding is a well-reasoned one, but there are some things that must be taken into consideration regarding the highlands of southwestern Iric. While the highlands are fertile, they are also dry, requiring care and skill to produce a stable crop. They do have space for more holdings, this is true - but not as many as might be assumed from a map.
I also wish to bring a proposal before the council - the drought of trade between Iric and Borrd has gone on for too long. As we are once again nearing the time of the festival celebrating victory over the ypurs, I propose that we hold the feast and formal ceremonies in the fair city of La Wunj. We have been too separate for too long, a greater exchange of goods, ideas, and people would only serve to strengthen our Union, and perhaps dispel certain misunderstandings.
The Baron Dann, by the grace of Kanon Baron of Iric, etc.
((I'm assuming that southwest Iric is both high and in the rain shadow of the mountains of Wechi - as such, it's probably a steppe, and good country for grain... if you can keep the soil from blowing away in the wind.)) -
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Needless to say, I will not be attending.
((What, you expected anything else? ^^ Baron hS is still angry about that whole 'kicked out by Baron Dann's rebellion' thing, he was never going to go for this. As for the real world version: I don't really have time to spend in the IRC, and have lost the knack of real-time conversations over the last few years, so you won't be seeing me in there. I'd like to stress that this is not because Techno-Dann drove me out of any websites with flame and sword; as far as I know, he's never started any bloodthirsty revolutions. ^^))
((Also will be adding the steppe info to the Cyclopaedia. Geography is fun!))
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Festivities in Iric by
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You mean I should leave my cozy corner at Arkive and travel to La Wunj? I’m a hermit for reasons, and don’t like the crowded places. But I may be able to do this, once. If I don’t get lost in the dreaded woods of Kar'eer again.
((Translation: In the time I need to understand what has been said, and to formulate a coherent answer in this foreign language, real time chats usually advance to something totally different. I promise to lurk at the festival, if I find the time, and I may even try to make my presence known, but don’t expect any meaningful conversation with me. It’s definitely the wrong medium.))
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((stepping totally ooc for a moment)) by
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I'm sorry, I'd never thought about how chats would be harder on people who need to translate their thoughts. Thank you for your willingness to try!
And at least lately, the chat hasn't been moving at all, at least when I've been around.It's not the place it used to be. -
((I've poked my nose in the chat a few times in the past.)) by
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It's always dead silent without fail.
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((This is me trying to fix that.)) by
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If I'm in the chat and not responding, please poke me- I'm probably just watching another tab, and a poke will get my attention.
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((Heh, alright, fair enough. :P)) (nm) by
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((Agreed.)) by
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On both counts - I've poked my head into the IRC a couple times in the last week and it was deader than disco, and I do remember having translation problems when chatting in the IRC a few years ago.
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The ArchivistÂ’s ApprenticeÂ’s Speech by
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Seeing that Milady Neshomeh is still absent, and no knight of Wechi spoke up yet, allow me to address the Baronial Council and the knights and commoners of Plort, hoping that what I say is in the best interest of all people of Wechi.
The people of Wechi believe that Critta-Kalthin is important, and support the suggestion to promote this town to the status of a city.
If our armies are no longer starving, and we increase the efforts in fighting the dreaded Marizu, this will draw attention, and certainly cause an influx of immigrants, which means more soldiers for our armies and need for more supplies. Thus, I can not see how growing more grain in the Riding of Sittorese would affect the economy of Critta-Kalthin and cause the down-cycle Lady Iximaz and her entourage apparently fear.
Concerning the proposed government of our new nation, I have to object to Baron Huinesoron as well as to Baron PC. Both confuse the concepts of civil and military reign. I agree with the Poor-Cynick that the Baronial Council should not even try to delve into the tidbits of governing a nation far away from their residences. But the barons also have no business in appointing the legislative assembly of a nation. And why would the return of barons whose absence inspired the founding of this new nation lead to dissolving the assembly, unless you intend to dissolve the nation itself, and make it a part of Borrd again?
The people of Wechi are used to rule themselves, although I have to admit that following the suggestions of our elders demonstrably helps keeping things neatly in order. If it is even true that eastern Borrd and western Iric fell to waste because the people there are unable to rule themselves, and any sort of government has to be established, we should remember the Sittori people’s tradition of listening to the practitioners of Beytah. In my opinion, the Conclave of Beytah to govern the Riding of Sittorese could be fairly self-organizing, because the people know best who helped them most, and unskilled apprentices would not even think of ruling this nation; they know quite well that they would just be laughed out of Plort.
What? What are you mumbling there, in your private conversation with Sir Ekyl, while I am holding this carefully prepared speech? A three-chamber-assembly? Valiant knights, co-operators and practitioners of Beytah? I have to think about that.
((Can we come up with names for the other two chambers? Hieronymus is intrigued by the prospect of beytahing commoners getting some power.))
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on 2015-06-05 16:47:00 UTC
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It appears that you propose a direct election, along the lines of the election of our own barons [[and the Ops and Dars of Iric, but Baron Me makes a point of never mentioning that country unless he can't avoid it]]. This would be... acceptable, provided the Assembly remained committed to the cause against the Marizu.
In times past we have heard of nations with a threefold division in their governance: between executive, judicial, and legislative. Do you propose that this model be followed by the Assembly of the Riding? [[I think that would be fascinating, but I've no idea whether it would work.]] If it were so, the Conclave of Beytah must hold the judicial power, for their arts of healing make them the clear best choice. The... Knights' Congress should bear the executive right, for our knights are decisive in their battles. Then would the... Cooperative Communion [[oh stars this is hard]] be the legislators, working together as they ever do to formulate the laws of the land.
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Elections? by
on 2015-06-05 18:51:00 UTC
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I didn’t say anything about elections. But I would like to hear the Riders’ opinions on electing a Knight’s Congress, a Cooperative Communion and a Conclave of Beytah. After all, I don’t have to live with this government, but they do. Or may be we can all agree that "Listen to your Beytahs, unless you believe that they are stupid" is the only law that should apply in the Riding of Sittorese, and Sir Ekyl can just pretend that everybody who demands something he does not like is stupid anyway?
((This is fascinating. But Hieronymus is an anarchist who lives in Wechi because in theory nobody rules there, and the prospect of beytahing commoners getting power is probably not so intriguing that he personally wood settle in Riding of Sittorese and claim a seat in this conclave.
His conviction that mature people can sort out anything that needs to be sorted out without any kind of government is of course naive. Hermits just don’t usually deal with hordes of people who cannot even agree to disagree. But being who he is, if Hieronymus has too much say in the creation of this government, he will try to make it so complex that in practice nobody bothers to do anything about it and the Riders just listen to their Beytahs without many formalities anyway.
So speak up, Riders. What do you want?))
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Rarely seen? Bah! Perhaps only rarely looked-for. (nm) by
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Baron Cassie begs forgiveness for her inaction. by
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Since having been granted custody of her lands, she has had many cares, and has not been able to focus on their upkeep. She does not see this changing any time soon, but she will do her utmost to at least direct her people in what must be done.
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((Don't worry about it. ^_^)) by
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((Making the PGs important figures was an inevitable result of the design choices I made when designing Plort, but it does mean people with no particular interest in the setting are suddenly big names. Don't worry too much about joining in; Baron You will keep sending knights out, I'm sure.))
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If I might add my own voice. by
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The general concept behind Baron Huinesoron's is both sound and vital. That being said, both the Lady Iximaz and Baron Phobos are correct in arguing that this council cannot run this nation by itself. I believe it would not be inaccurate to say that we are all focused on the demands of our own lands. Adding a distant territory to govern would likely result only in disorganization and strife in both regions.
Therefore, I propose that this Riding of Sittorese be governed by a small legislative assembly whose members are appointed by the barons. These individuals would be able to act as our representatives while at the same time maintaining the modicum of independence necessary to react to any new developments within the region. The Baronial Council would, of course, retain control over large-scale military and diplomatic matters for the region. Should the barons of these territories eventually return, then the assembly could be dissolved.
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I believe that much of this Council is too far from the affected areas to take stewardship of them. Those whose lands are closer are either absent or engrossed in their work, as my Lady Wife can attest. Therefore, the only Baron who might take stewardship is my self, and I move that this council cede all the lands currently under Baron Araeph's control, and those held by Baron Cassie, into my care. The "Baron" Kaitlyn may keep possession of her fantasy nation, for the time being.
I think you will find that this is the most logical course of action. Upon your, undoubtedly unanimous, consent, I will immediately send trusted Knights and willing citizens to begin farming the land. You will have the grain your armies need.
-Baron Phobos, Protector of Borrd
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Scape-Grace, must I tell you to hold your tongue every time? by
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[she sighs and rubs her forehead]
Baron Phobos, your attempt to seize power for yourself is both clumsy and, pardon me for saying so, absurd. Barons Araeph and Cassie might not be in Plort often, but their lands still remain their own. To think that they would be transferred to your rule is quite frankly laughable. I trust the other barons are in agreement on this matter? -
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To allow Baron Phobos to seize the lands of Araeph and Cassie would be a gross violation of the Edict of Bast, and against the very heart of our fair Constitution ((which 'states' that unless someone has been absent from the Board for at least a year, more likely two, I won't be unilaterally shutting their barony down - though politics like Baron Phobos is trying could still leave them without any land, I'm not saying it couldn't happen)). Nor do I deem that he could truly achieve the things he claims - can the master of Cokirt really propose to reinvigorate lands on the far side of the Larninkurvs, countless miles from his present holdings?
On this matter, Barony Huinesoron must stand in firm opposition.
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And yet, Baron Phobos does make one excellent point. It is a great pity that the newly-appointed barons all took their domains in the western lands; there remain still no active barons east of the Larninkurvs. The wisdom of allowing the Baronial Council to rule directly over the Riding, I therefore come to doubt.
Yet to who else might it be given? What say the knights of Plort - to whom will you entrust the staff of life, and the bread of your campaigns?
((Or, as Ixigrace have already asked: who else could rule it? From an OoU perspective, what's the most appropriate government for 'people writing missions'? I was going with 'Permission Givers', but it doesn't quite work...))
((How about something involving the arts of Beytah (healing magic)? A Conclave of Beytah might work...))
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I make many excellent points. by
on 2015-06-04 16:29:00 UTC
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It is not my fault that you cannot see it. I requested these lands at the last Council, if you will recall. We would not need to worry about this grain shortage if I had been granted what I asked for. Your pig-headed opposition has caused this problem and you will not listen to reason when it presents itself.
However, I am willing to wait and see what the Knights have to say on the matter. Perhaps they possess the wisdom this Council seems to lack.
-Baron Phobos
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I have never hated thee, Baron Phobos. by
on 2015-06-04 22:35:00 UTC
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Indeed, I have seen thee fight when I have envied thy behaviour. However, let it be known such, and I apologise to disrupt this council with my bluntness: I will not stand for any attempt to arbitrarily strip Baron Cassie and myself of our lands, especially not for the sake of enriching another who resides so distantly he has scarcely ever seen Ngort and Godreve himself, nor the ranches and farming villages that dot the countryside. I stand with Baron Huinesoron against your proposal and anything of the like, but also against both of you in splitting us away from Borrd and putting us under the governance of another. Surely we would be happy to use our crops to feed the Union, and to allow our lands be used as a staging area for armies riding against the Marizu, but the land east of the Larninkurvs was hard earned, and I would sooner marry a Marizu chieftess than stand for such mockery.
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And yet might not your lands benefit from this change? by
on 2015-06-04 22:47:00 UTC
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The Council of Borrd holds little sway east of the Larninkurvs; you yourself have oft complained of bandits in the hinterlands of Godreve, and the barons of Borrd have done nothing, for we are locked behind nigh-impassable mountains. But were the Riding of Sittorese to be established according to the Poor Cynick's plan, rule would be in the hands of those local inhabitants who have shown themselves willing to step forward and take up the burden.
Your holdings at Godreve are known as a place where knights from far and wide may gather and tell their tales; in the Riding, might it not become an even greater settlement, even a city in its own right - perhaps even, if we may dare to breathe of it, a capital city?
Huinesoron, Baron of Plort
((Who is not above what approached outright bribery. But Google Drive makes sense as the capital of mission-writing, these days... ~hS)) -
Hardly complained! by
on 2015-06-04 23:25:00 UTC
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My soldiers have delighted in the practise, hunting such mongrels down. It keeps them fresh and ready for campaign, during the down times.
Now, as for your proposal, I would be fool to suggest you speak no sense. The people here would be better off, in likelihood. However, were Godreve capital as you say, I would not be made to bow before some assembly whose members I had no right to choose, in my own seat. The Union has always repudiated the idea of kingship, and I make no attempt to change that course, but I see no reason not to condition my assent on the promise - and delivery - of rulership, wholly or as partner. As a part of the Union, I would wish to be held in equal standing with the rulers of Iric, or Wechi, or Ozerborrd, for if I am a mere subject in my own capital, then this is little more than a swindle.
((No real effect out of universe, but he's an ambitious fellow, and why shouldn't he ensure he isn't being scammed? :P I agree Google Drive would make most sense as capital, though he also wouldn't agree to give up power in his own land, so wanting a guarantee of being in charge - either as sovereign, co-ruler with somebody, or head of any assembly formed - seemed reasonable! And, of course, why be given a nation if you will still be treated as lower than the others? ;) )) -
How might the assembly be decided? by
on 2015-06-05 09:17:00 UTC
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Surely, they would be chosen from among the most prominent citizens of the new realm. Three traits, methinks, should stand preeminent among them. First, those knights who serve most valiantly in the wars against the Marizu, demonstrating their strength of arms and spirit. Secondly, those who go oft to war in company with other brave knights, showing their wisdom in working united. Thirdly but equally, the noble practicioners of the arts of Beytah, that they may heal the wounded and bring life to the grain of the Riding.
I am sure that, among these equals, a notable such as yourself could be found a place.
And it goes without saying that the Riding will stand as equal to the other nations of the Union; and indeed that the Assembly would be held in equal honour with the Ops of Iric, the Council of Borrd, the Protector of Ozerbord, and the folk of the Commonwealth of Wechi.
-Huinesoron, by the grace of Kanun Protector of Ozerbord
((In other words: prolific writers, prolific co-writers, and betas. They seem like the logical makeup for a mission-writing nation.))
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The knight took another swig from his flask. by
on 2015-06-04 17:12:00 UTC
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Six, give me strength...
To be quite frank, the idea of land being purely owned by anyone is absurd to me, but we shall deal with my lack of understanding of your form of government another day. However, if I cannot understand how a man can call himself baron and claim what he wishes, I certainly do not see how one can claim what was settled by others, and force them out. You use honeyed words and appeals to politics, when all I see is dirty tactics not unlike the Marizu! Squatting in others land, hoisting your flag and claiming it your own.
Now, as for the matter of the baronial council claiming the land... It is no secret, I have criticized many of you, some publicly, some in private correspondence. I see how many measure their worth in census numbers and acreage in their hold, and I call it to their attention. However, in this instance, I am in full support of a Baron-led military state. Much as I may not understand how it all works, I can see that it does (somewhat). It would help to answer the problem we face with the loss of Ofum, by providing additional barracks and training grounds for knights and civilians. True, it would not be on Weab, and a suitable replacement will need to be found, but it is a step in the right direction. And, while many barons are greedy power hungry-*ooft!* Erm, as a gathered council, you seem to work in the (general direction of) common good. As long as we knights have a say in how things are run in this new nation, such as we do now, I see no harm, and indeed potential benefit from this new state.
((What he is actually expecting is that the barons, faced with having to actually work together over the pettier details of running a nation rather then the grand aspects, will tear each other apart. Most likely literally. This will force them to either work together (Friendship is Magic, after all!) or crumble into war, which would allow for a less corrupt system to take its place. A long-term win-win for Jumper.)) -
You present no reason. by
on 2015-06-04 16:40:00 UTC
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You view power as an end, Baron Phobos, and not the means it is. Your scurrilous attempts at gerrymandering and politicking bring your fiefdom into disrepute, and that you are incapable of learning from your past transgressions sinks your petty nation further into iniquity. Smellfeast I name you, Baron of this place, for you seek to gorge yourself on that which is another's by right and by law, and pay no recompense to them. Slake your thirst for power with that which you already possess, and do not let your slithering ambition blind you more than it already has.
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Lady Iximaz, please muzzel your dog. by
on 2015-06-04 16:49:00 UTC
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I will not be spoken to in such a manner. Especially not by your... *makes a dismissive hand gesture indicating Scape-Grace* ...jester, or what ever it is.
((He's a people person. Really.))
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Dare ye call a servant of Milady Iximaz as such!? by
on 2015-06-04 22:45:00 UTC
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It is thee, foul Phobos, who ought to be muzzled! Ye impune the honor of mine Lady Iximaz with your ill talk- cease it this instant!
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((Psst: It's spelled "impugn".)) (nm) by
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((You correct people's spelling with impugnity!)) (nm) by
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((I don't know how I''m supposed to take that...)) by
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((but if it was meant to be funny, the joke sailed right over my head.
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((It's a homophone, Mr. Ignores Puns.)) by
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((And there's also no need to get condescending.))
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((I wasn't trying to be condescending, it just went over my head. (i.e., I had no idea whether you were joking or were honestly somehow offended.) Hence my response.))
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((*deep sigh*)) by
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((I knew there was something wrong when the spellcheck activated. It didn't give the proper spelling, though, just some other words, so I thought it just didn't recognize it. Thanks.))
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My humblest apologies, Baron Phobos. by
on 2015-06-04 16:58:00 UTC
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But I fear the Scape-Grace has a mind of her own, and while I can chastise her, it would be a futile gesture-
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[The Knight ceases to lean against the wall and snicker...] by
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[...and, approaching Lady Iximaz, lays a hand upon her shoulder.]
Be of good heart, and do not injure yourself, Lady Iximaz. The Scape-Grace is a woman of great wit, as I have now been privileged to see, and possesses great strength of will besides. I propose that attempting to halt her tongue would be no more than a waste of breath and vigor.
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((Knight Eshakhar, who can also be titled 'Lady' if you so please, is a traveler born beyond the Mistwall who has recently sworn her loyalty to Lady Iximaz. I'm still putting together her story and heraldry and so on, but Ix has informed me that I can join the RP without having posted those yet, so here I am.
Of note: she carries twin swords, among other things, and has long studied words and at least one form of magecraft. She has no plans to stop traveling. And, if such things can be declared without first checking that putting in the equivalent is fine with people in question, she was knighted by Araeph (who gave me Permission). Anything else--and possibly even some of that--is almost definitely irrelevant to the Council meeting. ~DF)) -
Perhaps that is why you are as you are: by
on 2015-06-04 16:56:00 UTC
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Because you will not be told when you overstep your bounds. You believe, with evident sincerity, that a Baron cannot be wrong. I say thee nay, Smellfeast. For you are as porcine a man as I have seen in all my born days, and for the good of my lady's barony, you must be told when your ambition does your betters ill.
So keep your forked tongue held at bay, and be. Told.
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[The monk lifted a claw-like finger.] by
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Now, now, Scape-Grace. A ruffian you might be, but this is a Barons' council, and you will behave as is befitting of the occasion.
As to you, Baron Phobos... I am sorely disappoint. I would have expected you to at least try to deceive us into supporting your unimpressive attempt at grabbing more power.
I must say that the Poor Cynick's proposal is the soundest, and I voice my support of it.
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Barony Huinesoron concurs. (nm) by
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What need have I for deceit? by
on 2015-06-04 18:55:00 UTC
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Does my forthright manner not speak to my sincere belief that this situation would quickly be resolved under my stewardship? Were I the villain you all seem to believe I am, I would simply move in and claim those lands. And who could say otherwise, if I did? That I make my requests in the light of day, at an open forum, and subject myself to the consensus of my fellow Barons, and the noble Knights of Plort, should be ample evidence that I am not the scoundrel you think me to be.
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My Lord Baron... by
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Your 'forthright manner' does you credit; but I have learned in my studies and in my travels that scoundrels are cannot always be identified by military actions. Indeed, some of the most foul of scoundrels are those who speak boldly while planning to achieve their dastardly goals by any means, should talk fail.
I say this, of course, not to imply that you are such a scoundrel as this; however, Baron Phobos, I say that a close eye must be kept on your actions following the close of this meeting of the Council. If your actions are pure, and do not contradict the consensus of this Council, whatever it may be, then, milord, will we have our true evidence. And should they be impure--should you attempt to claim these lands even if the Council does not rule in your favor--then there will be those who are well-placed to prevent the injustice.
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Or, more truthfully; by
on 2015-06-04 19:07:00 UTC
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That you're exactly the scoundrel the other Barons think you are, Baron Phobos; merely weaker than your bluster intimates. You haven't the strength to face the rest of the Protectorate in open war - for that is what it would be, my Lord, open warfare upon both the Barons and the legacy of those who ruled from Harpwire. You lack the men, you lack the machines, you lack the capital, and you lack the spine to engage your Barons upon the field.
I am a lord of those who the laws of these lands keep outside, looking in with hungry bellies as the wolf-nights beckon, and yet we still abide by the laws you set. But you, you choose to believe that such naked theft does not apply.
Who would say otherwise? I say. The people say. Plort says. Listen to the voices raised against you, heed them, and content yourself with skulking about your castle. We have a war with the Marizu to prosecute. We have no need of petty distractions raised by a pettier little Smellfeast. -
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My dear Baron, your callous disregard of the Edict of Bast and the Constitution does not make me think you have the best interests of the Union in mind.
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Then you will understand, Phobos... by
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Why we would be... let's say more than a little put-our should you decide to claim those lands regardless?
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((still working on mine, but--)) by
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((Scape, I had to tell you: this is absolutely hilarious. Ye Scape-Grace has a most wondrous and fantastically witty way with words. Please, please keep going. ~DF))
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((I am blushing really really hard right now.)) (nm) by
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((A question:)) by
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((Is the Scape-Grace the same person as Signora Wobbellini? If so, do you want to update her profile? If not, do you want to write a new one, and does Wobbellini still exist in Plort?))
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Fair words, fair words... by
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Fair words as suit thy needs above all else. For the grain trade goes not through thy ports, milord Baron, but along the river-windings north through to the ships at Critta-Kalthin, the seat as was built for my Most Serene Lady, heroine of war that she do be. That seat, that shining city, star o' the cresting waves... it were built for thee, milord Baron, and by thee, and at thy own expense, and yet thou profit from the sea trade it brings not one bit, be it in the coin of her Ladyship's realm or yer own silver tharnis. An' it do rankle, milords, it do rankle when thy work rewards another an' not thyself.
Milord Baron Huinesoron, thy fortunes wane. Thy warrin' days are done, thy people scratch a livin' from bare rock like the Dunlendings of the Medellurth faith thou dost so espouse, and thou seekst solely to consolidate what power remains'ee at th'expense of my Lady. Spin it 'owsoever thou do wish, Eagle's Shadow; this course do take from one an' give to another, with no recompense for them unfortunates as are robbed by thy hand an' feather pen.
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"Yes, it seems the two of you are inseparable, even when [s]he is summoned to a secret Council and you are not."
-- Elrond Half-Elven, The Fellowship Of The Ring.
But yeah, my avatar is very much the Prince John to Baroness Iximaz's Richard I; while she's off kicking lumps out of various Marizu armies, someone's got to keep the barony ticking over and do the administrative drudgery. Might as well be the weird-looking, weirder-talking beggar woman who hangs around Castle Redwall like, in a fit of serendipity, a bad smell. =] -
I'm sorry, can this... person read? by
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She seems to have interpreted 'Critta-Kalthin ships much of its grain north, so a new realm should be established in eastern Konti-Nyuum to feed our own knights' as 'we should take the grain trade away from Critta-Kalthin and place it in my hands'. I am at a loss to see how either of these would be the result of my proposal: the Riding of Sittorese would not sell its produce to foreign powers, and so would not compete with Critta-Kalthin at all; nor would the Riding be in any way associated with myself or my domains.
Frankly, while I am in full support of the principle of openness at the Baronial Council, I sometimes wish we might make exceptions.
~Baron Huinesoron, not of eastern Konti-Nyuum
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Regarding the Critta'-Kalthin trade of grains. by
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In the name of Kanun, the Guider, and Spelin, the One who Dictate.
I had remembered when the first time I formed my ten fingers in humbleness before Baron Huinesoron, and are accorded lands for my people, both Orcs and Men. But my memory is a bit rusty, and may people correct me should I recounted wrong.
Critta' was built close to a delta, of which its soil was mostly black clay, which were suitable for rice-growing. We were ignorant of the matters of wheat-growing, and the people I sent to study the technique suggested to me that the soil may not be very suitable for wheat, and forays into the business may not have generated enough food to sustain our growing numbers.
After the people of Kalthin accepted me as their officer and representative, and united the two towns to form Critta'-Kalthin, we could not find anyone who were willing to oversee wheat production. We decided it was a small matter, and everyone in the town seemed happy to eat rice daily.
We also could not find any towns in Konti-Nyuum that ate enough rice to justify trade with them, so we decided to sell our rice to Are-Pea Alliance and sometimes Guggle.
Such was our situation.
As of now, we may need to spend a bit more money and labour before we could plant wheat, should the profit opportunity arise. But we are ready to fulfill market demands, and we do consider past kindness and local requirements in setting our prices.
Despite having winters, our summers and and autumns happen long enough to allow planting of short-season rice variaties. But we can't plant rice for half of the year, and we are on a tight schedule. I would propose that other Baronies, should they find it prudent, to allow anyone wishing for better wages to work at Critta'-Kalthin in order to plant wheat to fulfill the demands of Konti-Nyuum. We will pay the workers well, and they will not pay any goods taxes to Critta'-Kalthin, of course only if Lady Iximaz allows such exemption.
I, who is sincere,
Dark Civilian Aakmal.
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I reads well enough, milord... by
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For I sees through thy pretty words. Milady Iximaz's wars upon the hated scourge o' the sea that is the Marizu, it do depend upon the sea an' her tradin' ships. I knows this, milord, for I do have to read the Barony's books when I do balance 'em. The grain traders of Critta-Kalthin buy up their wares from all across our noble nation, milord Baron - an' if this Ridin' will not sell to traders who wish to send our grain abroad, then that's less duties for milady's war chest. Instead, thy old army gets fed, for 'tis thee as has most to gain from the arrangement. Thyself, with thy raggedy armies, trapped as th'art beneath the grindstone o' poverty, aye, thou wouldst be in a fine position to go a-raidin' once more. My mistress? Her star wanes with that, for she can gain less from her privateerin' with no spare coin for ship repairs an' such. Milady wanes as milord waxes, an' the old order o' things do endure like maggots in a midden. You hurt her, my Lord, you do her most grievous hurt if you do this - and since she's ten times the raider you ever was, old gamekeeper, you hurt your war. Our war.
Though that be just my own readin' o' your letters' shape, milord. I be but simple country folk, an' not well-versed in thy most courtly turns of phrase.
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Yeah, that's not a bad idea. City rights are extremely important, and port town sounds a lot more... well, parochial's the best word I can come up with... than port city.
Also, I'm trying not to have my charrie argue too vociferously against this course of action, because it's obvious Baron You wants to push it through and there is such a thing as needless expense of political capital, but such actions really would hurt Barony Iximaz a hell of a lot more than I think Baron You realises. Wars are expensive, after all, and you can't eat glorious victory. =] -
Calm yourself, Scape-Grace. by
on 2015-06-04 14:50:00 UTC
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You appear to have Baron Huinesoron's proposal confused for something of a more... sinister nature. He proposed that the new nation would be a "breadbasket", which sounds to me as though he intends for this to be a new place of production.
To this, I say, I wholeheartedly agree. Increasing the grain production of Plort would highly benefit our soldiers, and I am in full support of anything to increase our efficiency in the war against the Marizu.
There is one thing that concerns me, however. Huinesoron, you say that the new nation, were it to be founded, would be ruled by the Baronial Council, but someone would need to be put in charge of this nation, lest we want it to collapse as quickly as it is founded. I doubt any of us have the time or energies to devote to watching over the land, especially since we all have our own baronies to run. Who, then, would have the task of overseeing the day-to-day necessities of ruling a nation?
But I digress. There is one thing I would like to bring up, and that would be to give Critta-Kalthin status as a city. It has grown rapidly over the past year, and it now a city in all but name. It is only proper that it be given the same rights as such.
((No, she totally didn't show up dressed in her raiding gear, why on earth would she do that that would be silly
Am I taking advantage of hS' explanation to make myself look better? Apparently so. Lookit me, being all politician-like! *is shot by an angry Scape*
And ooh, I like the idea of C-K being made a city. It's apparently grown quite a bit lately, so it's "a city in all but name" at the moment, it would seem.)) -
A city? In the Gu-Gel delta? by
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There are but few cities in Plort, and they are of ancient lineage: Vaekew the fair, Manyuel with its libraries, Ozerbord of the festivals, sea-walled Borrd itself. Should we then extend such courtesy to a new-sprung town in the muddy plains of the west?
And yet... the barbarians of Chaett founded their port in but a few days, and we declare it still a city. Odolotos lies half-ruined or more, but it retains its title. Perhaps...
No, I must refrain from comment. As the Scape-Grace is so fond of reminding me, Critta-Kalthin was taken from me, and I retain no objectivity in its regard. I will let the Council decide as they will.
-Baron Huinesoron
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((Now I'm imagining Baron hS like this:)) by
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((Like... an Access Denied dead link?)) by
on 2015-06-04 18:12:00 UTC
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((I'm really not sure how to take that...! ~hS))
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((It's also showing up for me)) by
on 2015-06-04 18:37:00 UTC
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((So access is not limited to the US.))
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((Huh, that's weird, it's showing up on my screen.)) by
on 2015-06-04 18:19:00 UTC
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Yyyyup, that's him. `^` [is the best sulky face I can do] (nm) by
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((Still not gettin' it.)) by
on 2015-06-04 13:29:00 UTC
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((Is your reading of the situation that Iximaz is shipping grain from unpopulated western Iric - by either the narrow passes of the Larninkurvs or by ship from Tumblar to Borrd, and then presumably on by land by way of the Coast Road? I did highlight that this is land that's currently uncultivated, so I'm... having trouble understanding why you think it would hurt Barony Iximaz. Care to point me in the right direction?))
((Also, I have to say: I have missions dating to this year. Where does the Scape-Grace get the notion that I don't go raiding any more? [Is baffled]))
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((An OOC explanation)) by
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((Basically, the present plan consists of earmarking a vast amount of grain - that would otherwise be traded through Critta-Kalthin and bring in some much-needed funds - solely for domestic use, rather than splitting it in any way. This glut of grain drives prices down, even if it is just for use in Plort itself, and that means less trade overall for Critta-Kalthin. This in turn means less excise duties for Barony Iximaz to spend on its many, many, many raids, because that stuff costs money. Ship repairs. Equipment. Logistical support. Paying her troops. The list goes on. She'd have to inflict artificial price controls upon the grain trade to even have a hope of breaking even afterwards, and that means less raiding because she can't afford it, which means her income dwindles further. It's a vicious circle.))
((As for why the Scape-Grace is suggesting you don't go raiding any more, well, that's a lack of clarity on my part. You simply don't go raiding anywhere near as much as she does - plus, she doesn't like being called stupid. In fact, I'd go so far as to say she really damned despises it. So she's insulting him, to his face, and yeah that may actually have been a really dumb idea. =] )) -
[We trade textiles too, as well as some spices.] by
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[We bought them somewhere, then sell them somewhere else at higher price. In Malay, we say it as choking the blood. But it does bring in a lot of money. We also sell spices in the same way. We may still be working on improving our profit margin, but for a town, we are rather rich.]
[But to settle the problem of grain price falling, why not pay tax in form of grain instead? As in, Critta'-Kalthin sells to outside, but pays 50% of the tax they owe in form of grain at market price. Lady Iximaz must them only use the grain as campaign or maintenance supply for her troops or workers. She is not allowed to sell back the grain, but may barter it or give it as a bargaining chip.] -
((But...)) by
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((... the grain in question isn't currently being grown. He's proposing a resettlement plan to create grain production, not a repurposing of extant growth. That's why I'm baffled. The trade out of C-K shouldn't be reduced in any way, because what's being grown already is... still being grown. So I am a confuse. 'elp?))
((Also: she kinda started with the insults in the first post; I don't think he'd called her stupid recently at that point. ^_~))
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((The Scape-Grace is a long-term thinker.)) by
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((This course of action will cause a glut of grain - because you're massively increasing the supply without a comparable increase in demand. The price a trader can get for the grain they sell will be lowered and continue to drop; this hurts the Critta-Kalthin state because of its reliance on trade duties. Ees keppitelism, comrade. =] ))
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((Possibly.)) by
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((Though the 'petty kingdoms in Weab's northern wastes' would presumably be shut down with the rise of the Riding, compensating for at least a while. And by 'presumably' I mean 'by order of the Baronial Council', because power corrupts etc. But yes, in the long run, there will be more grain running around in Plort.))
((Assuming that people keep writing missions at a rate of knots and talking to each other in cowrites and betaing, of course. If that dies down, the Riding will become - or remain - an empty wasteland, and quite possibly be reabsorbed. Real life trumps fictional, after all. ^_^))
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((Okay, that makes a lot more sense.)) by
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((Sorry, brain's a bit scrambled; stayed up all night in a fit of excitement waiting for you to post only for you to do so the moment I fell asleep.
well, more like an hour after but shh))
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((I like to imagine...)) by
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((... that occasionally while talking to one of Lady Iximaz or the Scape-Grace, there's a puff of smoke and then the other one is standing there, carrying on the conversation as if nothing happened.))
((Actually that's probably a viable form of magic in Plort.))
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((Well, someone's gotta look out for the new Baroness. =] )) (nm by
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((Pfaha, amusing though that is...)) by
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((She mostly just follows Lady Iximaz around quite a bit, it would seem. Basically, she's my second shadow.))
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The Fall of Ofum by
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A proposal by Baron Huinesoron, Protector of Ozerbord.
The fires which ravaged Ofum, the main military camp on Konti-Nyuum, came as a shock to us all. Without Ofum, we have no training facility for our knights; no barracks for our soldiers; no armoury for our weapons.
But while some of the armies have undertaken to rebuild portions of Ofum, the damage is simply too great - and besides, having all our military in one place is a recipe for disaster. New developments on the southern coast have also reduced the importance of the Borrd Gap in the war on the Marizu. I therefore propose the following:
A military centre to be established in southern Wechi, in the curve of the Turaipod Heights, and named Los Taelis. Roads to be constructed linking Los Taelis to Mei'n Payj and to the castle Arkive. The harbour at Mei'n Payj to be expanded, and to assume part of the duties of sending forth our brave knights.
A second military centre to be established in southern Ozerbord, and named Ba-Korp. A road constructed if necessary to tie Ba-Korp into the road network. The skyship port of Skypcht to be expanded and its production increased, to allow knights to fly to Weab to take up arms against the Marizu. The precise location of Ba-Korp will need to be determined; whether it should lie within Barony Huinesoron or Barony Thanasius Ampelius.
With these two new camps, the knowledge and skills we have learned at Ofum can be preserved, and the war against the Marizu continued.
Huinesoron, by the grace of Kanun Baron and Knight of Plort, Protector of Ozerbord, Custodian of Fanvik-Whirl, Marshal of the Order of Udisc, Scourge of the Marizu, Friend of Medellurth, &c &c &c
[This is because of the unexpected deletion of Miss Cam's website. The PPC backups are mostly in two locations: Neshomeh's Tripod 'Lost Tales', and my Webs/Google backups. The former is sited in a fairly self-explanatory location; the latter could very well be moved to the Borrd portions of Barony hS (ie, around the Wep and Gu-Gel rivers), but it seemed better thematically to put it close to the skyship port; the whole of Ozerbord vaguely represents my stuff anyway. ^_^
To clarify: the fort of Ofum has burned. You can't debate that; and unless Miss Cam restores her website, it's not being rebuilt, either. The debate is over what we do about it.] -
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Further, I would like to alert the Council that Fanvik-Neht holds a copy of Ofum's records. Will this copy be part of Los Taelis?
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Please donÂ’t give the archivist ideas. by
on 2015-06-05 14:28:00 UTC
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Considering that this would resemble rebuilding OFUM at the southern coast of Plort,
and that OFUM’s stronghold in Fanvik-Neht has been held for many years and is in no apparent danger,
and that copying the hundredsomething chapters of OFUM’s records is the most tedious work I can imagine, and I know quite well who would have to do it,
I vote for just leaving them there.
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I remember well the knights of Ofum. by
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I rode against them many a time, many a time. Ever did their arrows fly, and ever did my sword ring in answer. *bows head* I have done much wrong. I am sorry.
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Megapluggage X3 COMBO! by
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That's right, we've got three—count 'em, three—plugs to share! First up, Neshomeh is releasing an interlude and a mission for RC 1110:
Interlude 2: "Morning After"
In which everything looks different than it did the night before.
Rating: PG/K+ - One candid question about certain nighttime activities.
Beta: Phobos.
Mission 4: "Never Let Go"
In which the agents face the Music of the Night.
Continuum: The Phantom of the Opera
Rating: PG-13/T - Math is important. If you don't do it, you get implied statutory rape and preteen pregnancy.
Betas: Phobos and SeaTurtle with domirossi as additional French language consultant.
Next, Phobos has a new story in his Catastrophe Theory alternate timeline. If you're not familiar with this setting, you'll want to go read "Catastrophe Theory: The End Is Nigh!" first, since it's the main story and the new one takes place in the middle of it. Here it is:
"Catastrophe Theory: Fine and Dandy"
Diligent research unearths a record from the past.
Rating: PG/K+ - Strange attitudes toward cities.
Betas: Neshomeh, Desdendelle, and PoorCynic.
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So the Phantom is secretly a doctor, for some reason? by
on 2015-06-16 01:19:00 UTC
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I couldn't help but snort at the horrible medicine in that Phantom of the Opera fic.
Getting shot in the chest is survivable even without medical care, but only if you're very lucky. Let's say your Sue was shot with a low-velocity bullet (considering the era, this could happen) that hit at an angle, bounced off her ribs, and got stuck somewhere not too vital, say maybe between the muscle and the bone. It could happen. But such a comparatively minor injury would have our Sue fainting mostly from the surprise of being shot (that's the only explanation for her instant loss of consciousness; anything but a shot to the heart or a major artery would have left her conscious for thirty seconds or more). The second the Phantom started stupidly probing around in the wound to try to find the bullet, she would wake from her faint and start screaming bloody murder. Without proper antiseptic technique, the injury would get infected. Back then, even comparatively minor surgery like this had a low success rate. Our Sue would have been likely to die of infection even if she had gotten a survivably minor chest wound.
Her second set of symptoms is an easy diagnosis, but I seriously doubt the writer knew what they were describing. Feeling cold, faint, and weak, with a relatively sudden onset, is what happens when you have low blood sugar. She should also have been sweating and sick to her stomach, but one assumes that those aren't glamorous enough symptoms. In any case, the treatment that the Phantom administers is utterly stupid. There's no need to give any kind of vaguely described injection. Someone with low blood sugar can be treated in the short term by giving them something sugary to drink; if you go to the ER with low blood sugar, they give you orange juice. You could give them a glucose IV, I suppose, but that's a bigger volume than you could get into a single syringe. In the long term of course they figure out why your blood sugar was so low to begin with.
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on 2015-06-12 21:55:00 UTC
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I quite liked all three of these stories. First off, Gall and Derick. Both the interlude and the following mission have rapidly made them one of my favorite agent pairs. They have a very good banter already down. I also liked the information gap: with Gall as the headstrong newbie and Derick as her exasperated teacher, it allows for a convenient way to explain different canonical aspects without seeming too forced. The summation of Phantom's plot was a good example.
I really dug the end of the mission, where the canon gets into the heads of the agents. That was a nice touch and made the climax suitably climactic. I also liked that killing the Sue pretty much undid the damage. The only complaints I had were in regard to a couple of lines, like "Gall summed it up in her usual succinct manner." That one in particular felt a little too on the nose. Otherwise, it was very good.
I also enjoyed the "Catastrophe Theory" story, although I believe that I said as much when I betaed it. It was interesting seeing some of the steps that led the PPC to such a dark path. I enjoy that kind of piecemeal world-building, particularly for post-apocalyptic-esque settings (which I would argue that version of the PPC kinda is).
Good stuff all around. I look forward to future stories.
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MAJOR kudos to all of you! ^^ by
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This rocked, especially the mission, though I think everyone else has hit all of the major points as to why. :P
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Mm, kudos. *omnomnom* by
on 2015-06-07 17:22:00 UTC
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(Are Kudos Bars still a thing? I have no idea.)
Er, well, people have commented on the ending of the mission, but that's about it except for hS' post. And I'm sure Phobos would like to hear more specifically about his piece, too. {= )
But thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed them. ^_^
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Darn. People should talk more! by
on 2015-06-07 17:47:00 UTC
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Ahem.
Anyways, your ways of manifesting the in-text links were really cool and well thought-out.
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You can be proud by
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I never read or listened to Phantom of the Opera, or if I did unconsciously, it wouldn’t have been an English version, so I certainly couldn’t catch anything, but the charging sequence still rang the right bells or pushed the right buttons or whatever. It’s a work of art, it is.
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Yay! by
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I'm glad to hear it worked. ^_^
... What's this, no nitpicks? I was looking forward to finding out what my betas and I missed. Surely there's something?
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Maybe I didnÂ’t read careful enough... by
on 2015-06-06 10:32:00 UTC
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... because I was occupied representing Wechi at the Baronial Council, but I didn’t see anything that looked wrong to me.
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Well, now I'm really proud! by
on 2015-06-07 17:26:00 UTC
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And also on the lookout for the Apocalypse. If you couldn't find anything wrong, the end-times must be at hand! ^_~
(But naw, seriously, you're not obligated to catch everything every time. You are allowed to focus on other things.)
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*read carefully enough (nm) by
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Response ficlet. by
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Rubbing her eyes, Agent Penny (DMS, Guild Assassin, OFUDisc graduate-of-sorts) shoved open the door to her response centre. It hadn't been as hard to find as usual, she reflected. Maybe I'm getting used to this place again at l-
A large, black, spike-covered creature was crouched in the middle of the floor, seemingly playing with some small object. Penny stopped dead in the doorway, and the beast tilted its head quizzically, blinking its slit-pupilled eyes.
"Why... is there a dragon in my RC?"
<<Ah, Penny...>>
A swirl of pinkish light appeared, accompanying the voice that felt more like an ancestral memory. Penny grimaced.
"Vemi, you remember that I'm over you now, right? I've got a... well, anyway, you don't have to keep following me around."
<<Firstly, I have no idea what you're on about.>> Fëamintë's light shimmered in what might almost have been a silent laugh. <<And secondly, I wasn't following you. I was halfway across Eä checking up on a pet project of mine.>>
"What, and then suddenly you were in my response centre?" Penny paused, then glowered at the dragon. "Is that yours, then?"
The dragon made a soft rumbling noise - the sort that might imply its patience was wearing thin. Fëamintë wavered slightly in the air.
<<Because I'd play with one of Melkor's servants, wouldn't I? Don't answer that.>> The Maia hesitated a moment. <<No, I'm here because you->>
"Well someone must have put it here," Penny grumbled. "Dragons don't just turn up, you know."
<<I'm sure, but if you keep annoying it, you'll->>
"I suppose I should call the mini adoption centre? Or maybe an OFU; where do you think it's from?"
The dragon now looked extremely affronted. It rose up onto its front legs, peering down at Penny as if at a particularly irritating bug. Penny ignored it.
"I don't suppose it matters really, they can sort it out. I'll talk to the Administrator, he can-"
<<PENNY!>>
Penny blinked at her former partner. "You don't have to shout. What?"
<<Look at the door.>>
Penny leant back and frowned at the numberplate. "1100. What about it?"
Incorporeal Maiar can't sigh, so what Penny heard from Fëamintë couldn't have been one. <<Look again.>>
"11...10?"
<<Yes.>>
"Ah." Penny looked back at the severely ticked off dragon. "I should probably start running at this point, yes?"
<<Probably.>>
Because if I can make that mistake on first reading, I'm sure Penny can too. ^_^
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Cute. {= ) by
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Only, Fellrazer's blue, not black, and he doesn't have front legs—he uses his wings, like a bat. See Monstrous Nightmare on the HtTYD Wiki. {= )
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Wait, I was supposed to read the stories? :D by
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Dratted tetrapods, always catching me out... can you just pretend I've made those edits? ^^
The stories, in the order I read them:
-Catastrophe Theory: Whatever Whatever was particularly interesting to me, given that Cap'n Dandy is my creation and I'm the one who's most used him! He doesn't come across the same way I've always written him, but that's okay - public persona versus private diary, etc. It was a fun look into his blossom, and I liked the framing story as well.
-The Morning After Is I Think The Title was... well, it was a good story. My main issue is that Derik first appeared in the PPC riiiight about when I dropped out of action for a few years, so neither of the characters are people I'm particularly invested in. But as a story in its own right, it was good.
-The Mission Had A Title, I'm Sure was fun, but also not so fun. ^^ I loved Derik's reactions to the Phantomyness, including (of course) the finale. But... at times it felt a bit too MST-y. There were definitely sections in there where I felt I was reading this:
'Badfic badfic badfic'
Agents shout at badfic!
'Badfic badfic badfic'
Agents shout at badfic!
And yes, I know, that's what a PPC mission is all about... I'unno. I won't say 'I've never been a fan of', because it's a lie, but at the moment I'm not a fan of agents shouting at the badfic what's wrong with it. Shouting at each other, yes. Explaining what's wrong with aggressive logic, yes. But not shouting.
It's possible I've spent too much time around noisy children recently. If you do not make Erik in character I will not be your best friend any more!
Overall: I enjoyed them (and please don't read the above as saying I didn't!). And the... D'Erik sequence was very, very good. I think it was worth the extra month!
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Thanks! by
on 2015-06-07 17:19:00 UTC
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Yeah, there were a few sections of the mission where I stuck in some comments and left it at that 'cuz I wanted to show the quote but wasn't quite sure how to expound on the nonsense, and the author's note was outright MST'd. I hoped there were enough sections of actual stuff happening to balance those out, which I take to be the case since you enjoyed it generally. And yay, very glad to hear the hard work paid off for the ending. ^_^
BTW, you made me start working on a recolored version of a Monstrous Nightmare to go on Gall's wiki page. I do not have time for this, but now that I've started I'll have to finish. I hope you're happy. {; P
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Loved Never Let Go. by
on 2015-06-05 08:49:00 UTC
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There was only one thing I felt was missing from proceedings. See, quite a few of the videos linked had ads on them? So I thought it might have been an amusing throwaway gag to have the Sue and the Phantom try to sell each other, say, cheap laptops or car insurance for thirty seconds before one of the musical numbers. =]
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I use Adblock. by
on 2015-06-05 15:06:00 UTC
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Therefore, I missed out on that little detail. Can't say I'm sorry, either, though that WOULD have been funny. 'Course, unless they play the same ads every time, it might not always make sense.
Glad you liked it. ^_^
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adblock? ew. no. no. by
on 2015-06-05 16:39:00 UTC
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((I dislike the concept of adblocks; we live in a capitalist society, wherein this is someone's income we're talking about, in whole or in part, and adblock users are just like "sod off, your desire to eat is secondary to my desire not to give up thirty seconds of my time". Also I watch a lot of review content and plan to make some myself one of these days, so yeah, maybe I've not got a totally objective viewpoint on the matter. =] ))
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I turn it off for sites/producers I support. by
on 2015-06-05 18:13:00 UTC
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For instance, I watch videos on Channel Awesome witb ads. I also read my webcomics with ads.
I DON'T turn it off places like, say, here, where the ads interfere with the content and may even be harmful, because that's bad business. I'd love to support this service, since I use it so much, but not at the cost of getting a virus and losing my hard drive or something. I also don't turn it off for any random person who puts someone else's music on YouTube, because why should they profit off that? I've paid to see PotO on stage twice and bought other merchandise, and if I like someone's music, I'll buy their CD; that's how I support the actual artists. Kindly don't judge my ethics before you know what they are. {= )
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Wow by
on 2015-06-04 22:48:00 UTC
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All of this is really good, but the bit at the end of "Never Let Go" is absolutely brilliant. I'm a huge sucker for that sort of identity issues. I've got plans for something similar with my agents, and I hope that when I get there I do half as good a job as you did.
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Thanks! Which bit? by
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You mean the very last line, or were you thinking of something else?
Heh, I can just imagine your Aaron Hunter having a Fun Time if he gets dropped into AoT. It's bad enough having two sets of memories to start with.
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The whole charging/killing scene, too (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 03:28:00 UTC
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Aw, look at you two. by
on 2015-06-04 20:22:00 UTC
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Releasing missions together like an old married- wait.
*runs off to read, will give reviews later*
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What's this, what's this? (plugs and recs and things) by
on 2015-06-04 21:24:00 UTC
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A wild Lily has appeared! What's this? There's Middle-earth things in the air!
First and foremost my absence can be attributed to me being overworked at school, plus getting thrown head-first into the Hobbit side of Tolkien fandom (and very solidly thumping onto the deck of the Good Ship Bagginshield. Please don't ask. There are acorns in my eyes). But I've returned! However temporarily! And I may wander off again but before I do have some links!
-deep breath-
I'm currently (in cahoots with another writer in the Hobbit fandom) working on a blog of the Quest for Erebor in real time. Yes. Daily updates from Bilbo Baggins and Thorin Oakenshield about what they're doing. No idea how everything else in Middle-earth exists as-is with the exception of the sudden presence of blogs and the internet, but I reckon they just kinda scream into the void or write in enchanted diaries or something. Bear with me.
I'm plugging it here because 1) who doesn't want an in-depth and detailed look at Middle-earth during the time of the Quest for Erebor? 2) because DawnFire thought it'd be fun and 3) there are TOS jokes and cameos of some of the Eldar characters I've made up.
You can read Bilbo's blog here, and Thorin's here.
And secondly, I'm also here to rec a potential Legendary Goodfic, if you haven't already heard of it. It's called Sansûkh, rated T, and the premise of the fic in four words is Dead Dwarf Peanut Gallery.
Basically, Thorin wakes up after the Battle of Five Armies in the halls of his Maker, where his ancestors and family and all the other dead Dwarves have been watching him with his own quest, and he gains the ability to communicate subconsciously with the world of the living. Cue Thorin ghost-stalking the events of Lord of the Rings. There is Legolas/Gimli and Thorin/Bilbo, but it's all extremely slowly developed and canon-compliant. Very. Very canon compliant. Because the author has found a way of weaving her narrative, the film's narrative, and the book all together in one cohesive whole. And the extra worldbuilding for the Dwarves is amazing.
I really hope someone else will second my nomination to give this amazing fic the status of Legendary Goodfic.
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I'm reading Sansukh right now! by
on 2015-06-05 01:32:00 UTC
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I just got to the part where Gandalf fends off the Balrog. Just as awesome as I remember from the book and movie. :D
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Welcome back! by
on 2015-06-04 21:59:00 UTC
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Glad to have you a-Board again. Haha, geddit? A-Board?
Never mind.
Long story short: Rose Potter is dead, Time Lords are angsting, and wer'e up to our armpits in Pokémon agents after the PPC's first-ever Pokémon Tournament.
Also: Plort. - Lemme fix Thorin's link: by on 2015-06-04 21:28:00 UTC Link to this
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Permission Request. by
on 2015-06-05 13:06:00 UTC
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*takes deep breath* LotR, tea, Harry Potter, Yu-Gi-Oh! *looks around* I hope that works.
Iximaz the awesome was my beta, and she has my eternal gratitude.
Here are my agent bios: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oWvlaYn4QN1OXHhogdsQeQx4hNB2PxB_rWITab8YXyk/pub
My prompts.
Control: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bHqn6zI5lhcv0LhcPnIrAAAA9oJLdpDYAaa6OmCKjGI/pub
Random: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mIdooxlZJzxPc2PJMB6lCJkLDSdkhGR-z0rW43_mApc/pub
And here is my badfic: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ydyayRCAi4HGVIzM-t0npD5Yu3rsQm4YeAiEaVWaGEI/pub
Unfortunately, it really is my badfic. I never even finished it, and I don't know if that makes it better or worse.. Fun fact! I started publishing it on the Pit, then read different articles on the PPC Wiki, realized my OC was a Sue, and took the story down.
On a different note, I realize that the RP makes this a busy time, but would it be possible (if I should obtain Permission) for me to be knighted in Plort? I absolutely adore the RP, and celebrating Permission, Plort-style, would be an insane amount of fun! I thought it would be better to make my request on a separate thread, though, in case the PGs/Barons aren't okay with the idea.
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Congrats! Have fun! (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 12:32:00 UTC
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Thank you; I shall! (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 17:40:00 UTC
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A belated congratulations! *tosses Spikes* by
on 2015-06-06 04:30:00 UTC
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Though assuming one of your agents is your PPC persona, I'm starting to get flashbacks to my own very first mission now, dangit. At least you didn't have to deal with a dozen different continua coming at you at once! XD
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Thank you! (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 17:40:00 UTC
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Well done! by
on 2015-06-05 22:38:00 UTC
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Your prompts were pretty fun to read. I was actually a bit disappointed when the first ended before the mission began. I definitely look forward to reading more of your agents in the future. Congrats!
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Yay! Thank you so much! by
on 2015-06-05 22:45:00 UTC
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I can't wait to start writing! Well, actually, like I said on a different comment, I'll wait till this cold runs it course. I want to be at the top of my game when I begin writing. :)
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Congratulations! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 20:19:00 UTC
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Thanks! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 20:57:00 UTC
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Thanks! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 20:55:00 UTC
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Congratulations! *confetti* by
on 2015-06-05 20:12:00 UTC
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Good luck and here's a spare bottle of Bleeprin!
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*gratefully takes Bleeprin* by
on 2015-06-05 20:56:00 UTC
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I'm going to need that, thank you!
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My congratulations. by
on 2015-06-05 19:47:00 UTC
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Have an origami turtle. With four elephants bearing a great (carefully cut out map of the) Disc, astride it.
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Oooh, thanks! by
on 2015-06-05 20:59:00 UTC
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I actually just started reading Discworld; this is awesome! I love origami. I mean, I'm hopeless at it, but I like looking at it.
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Congratulations! Have this functional spaceship model! by
on 2015-06-05 17:28:00 UTC
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It's from a sci-fi continuum... I was about to say "I'm working on", but "I've got a vague idea of" is more appropriate. It's remote-controlled, but don't try to shut down the thrusters, or it will explode. Have fun!
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Ooh, thanks! by
on 2015-06-05 17:40:00 UTC
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Good luck with the continuum!
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Congrats! Have a Pikachu reading Harry Potter - uh oh... (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 17:07:00 UTC
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Why the "uh oh"? by
on 2015-06-05 17:43:00 UTC
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IS IT GOING TO EXPLODE?
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I see that joke went over the ol' head. by
on 2015-06-05 19:53:00 UTC
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Pokemon and Harry Potter were at the centre of moral panics in America during the '90s concerning whether or not they "promoted Satanism" (for real), presumably because the religious right at the time had nothing better to do than needlessly harass children's media characters. You have been vocal about your faith. I thought it fitting. =]
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Thought that was a reference to the lightning bolt scar. by
on 2015-06-05 22:16:00 UTC
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But, your explanation makes much more sense.
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Oh! XD by
on 2015-06-05 21:15:00 UTC
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Nope, didn't get it at all. I do remember the stigma around those- I still haven't played Pokemon. I know it's fine, though, and once I actually remember to do so I'm going to pick myself up a copy. Any suggestions on which game to start with?
*takes deep breath* CHRIIIISTIAAAAAANITYYYYY!!
I am indeed very vocal about my faith. *grins*
It's interesting, though, with Harry Potter, because Harry is definitely a Christ figure, not to mention the books are almost totally clean in all respects. I think the general rumor was that JK actually visited "modern" witches and incorporated those spells into her books- clearly that's not so, but I believe that's what people thought. Anyway, I've read them, and enjoyed them immensely. -
Sorry to butt in... by
on 2015-06-05 23:08:00 UTC
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Pokémon's sort of my area of expertise.
I'd recommend starting with the latest games - hopefully they'll announce a 3rd version of X/Y at E3. Pokémon's been evolving slowly towards its ultimate form, and if you start with the old games, you might get turned off by the horribly outdated interfaces.
And I think the issue with Pokémon was its use of "evolution", which stirred up all the hyper-conservative people, who completely failed to notice that the in-game version of it was more akin to metamorphosis.
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What a terribly boring issue. by
on 2015-06-06 11:52:00 UTC
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In games which feature honest-to-goodness magic, pagan gods who you can catch and use in battle, and other-dimensional insectoid demons you can also capture (and put on the same team as the aforementioned gods)... they got upset over a dodgy translation?
Moral panics just aren't fun any more. :(
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Don't forget a literal genie now! by
on 2015-06-06 17:20:00 UTC
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Dharmic religions are often conflated with paganism by people who couldn't so much as spell dharmic religion if their lives depended on it, but I don't care if they think genies are worshipped because lookit! Lookit Hoopa! Lookit the lil cutie!
Lookit the oh dear who unbound the Hoopa?
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Thanks! by
on 2015-06-05 23:31:00 UTC
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There seems to be an insane amount of games. Thanks for the advice- if you hadn't said anything, I probably would have started on the first game, or the earliest I could get for what systems I have.
Quite possibly. I haven't made any sort of study of it, but it would be interesting to know.
Thanks! I'm looking forward to writing them! :D -
Congratulations, here is a winged fish! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 15:14:00 UTC
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*runs around after fish* by
on 2015-06-05 17:45:00 UTC
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Thanks! I shall name him Squishy, and he shall be my Squishy.
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Congratulations! Have a Lava Cookie! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 14:58:00 UTC
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Thank ya kindly! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 17:46:00 UTC
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*Puts a Hat on* by
on 2015-06-05 14:42:00 UTC
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Hoom, hoom.
Activity: Yep, you're active enough, and - surprisingly - you've been here for over a month! I didn't quite realise that. All good, here.
PPC knowledge: Your prompts don't contain any mistakes that I can spot and I know that you can a) ask questions or b) look for the answers yourself, so you're good here.
Fic to spork: Yeah, that's a Sue, aright, and something in the writing made my head swim (ha, ha). One question, though: what's it's fandom? Closest I think about is Disney's Little Mermaid, but if that's the case, well... that's not the Little Mermaid I remember watching when I was ten.
Writing ability (creative): The prompts are funny - especially the random one, I like what you did with the sneak-thieving mini-Aragog there - and the characters are good. I do have one concern - while your writing is by no means purple, it's a bit too florid, in my opinion, so it would do you good to pay attention to this particular aspect of it; since you seem to be on it already, you're good to go.
Writing ability (technical): You're good. There are a couple of mistakes (.. instead of an ellipsis in the control prompt, a misspelled sandwich in the other prompt's title) but they're nothing glaring and the sort of thing a beta would catch, anyway.
Therefore:Permission granted
I, Baron Thanasius Ampelius of the Monastery of Spectacle in the Refuge of Ozerbord, in accordance with the Edict of Bast and the laws of the land, do grant you the title of Knight, and with it the obligation to fight the Marizu wherever they may be found.
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Thank you, great Baron, thank you!! by
on 2015-06-05 17:38:00 UTC
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I shall not fail you, nor the people of Plort! Ever shall my sword ring in their defense, and my shield shall not splinter!
((Ahaha, I'm so excited! Thank you so much! As soon as this head cold leaves and I can function like a normal human being, I shall begin the spork!
Yep, she is. I didn't realize how much of one she was until I reread it. It's actually a fic for a show called Once Upon a Time. It's quite good- basically a huge, live action Disney mashup set in Maine. I did it a massive injustice with my poor writing. :/
Yeah, I've noticed that in myself. I love rich descriptions, but I don't quite have the true knack of being rich while not giving people indigestion. Also, thank you so much!))
Let the celebrations BEGIN!!
-Alleb the OddCivilianKnight
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Good job, mate! by
on 2015-06-05 15:07:00 UTC
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Now you made me jealous! I gotta step up, otherwise I'll be the last from our bunch of newbies to acquire Permission :D
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Don't worry about it. by
on 2015-06-05 20:09:00 UTC
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Take your time; I waited a few months before I received Permission myself.
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Thanks! by
on 2015-06-05 17:48:00 UTC
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A good beta made all the difference for me! Not to mention she was able to give me tips on when to ask and all that.
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Yeah, I know, Ixi's amazing. (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 19:32:00 UTC
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Gah! Not here, for Melitele's sake! (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 15:08:00 UTC
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What? (nm) by
on 2015-06-05 17:18:00 UTC
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Heard Y'all Liked Them Pokemon by
on 2015-06-05 18:46:00 UTC
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I've made a deal with myself that I won't spend all my money on a new pokemon game until I've beaten the ones that I already have.
So to make it more of a challenge for myself, I'm playing through Black 2 with only my trustworthy ottowat, Tatertot. I've already beaten the first two gym leaders and I'm pretty confident that I'm gonna kick butt. -
I don't play strategically. by
on 2015-06-08 22:16:00 UTC
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I just throw moves at things until they die. To me, the level matters more than the type matchups. That sort of carried over from when I was a kid and couldn't be bothered to memorize type matchups. I also have a really weird connection to my starter pokemon, It's always in my party.
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Don't worry, you'll get better with time. =] (nm) by
on 2015-06-09 10:31:00 UTC
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Oh, so you're like Ash. (nm) by
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I have a weird way of playing. by
on 2015-06-06 03:12:00 UTC
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My focus is on the Pokédex, so I only use Pokémon until they become fully evolved. Then, I put them in the PC and grab the next-closest to final evolution. It takes a long time; I've been playing Pokémon Y for over a year now, and I've only just reached the fourth gym this week.
It also becomes rather daunting later in the game, when I have a team of NFEs going up against NPCs' full evolutions. I guess it's a "Not Fully Evolved Challenge," though that's not really my aim.
(And I've never really been into the online battle scene.)
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Eviolite Is Your Friend. =] (nm) by
on 2015-06-06 17:13:00 UTC
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Eviolite is best item, say true! by
on 2015-06-07 06:26:00 UTC
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And thanks to Plat being a fantastic guy, I had two for my White Version play-through, instead of just the one!
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OT: The Baronial Council by
on 2015-06-07 10:40:00 UTC
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May I direct The Book Repairman’s attention to this? I’m feeling awkward here and can use every support I can get.
HG, by common non-objection Wechi’s delegate at the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort. -
Uhhhhh . . . by
on 2015-06-07 14:39:00 UTC
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I've written a couple of stories for the whole Protectorate of Plort thing, but I never really saw much interest in the RPing aspect. And geography has always been beyond me, whether real or fictional. I can't really make out what you're saying in that link (or, frankly, what anyone is saying in that entire thread). :(
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You donÂ’t really need to understand the geography by
on 2015-06-07 17:31:00 UTC
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A short supporting response to the post would be sufficient :-)
Since we Wiki people are a basic democratic folks, we cannot allow the barons to decide how the new nation shall be governed; this should be decided by the people of this new nation. That’s all I attempt to achieve; everything else in this document is just supporting what hS and apparently everybody else intends to do anyway. I would really like to have this signed by all known residents of the Commonwealth of Wechi. There are only five: Neshomeh, you, me, eatpraylove and Baroom.
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Do y'all mean Oshawott? by
on 2015-06-05 20:01:00 UTC
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Because Samurott's actually p good. You shouldn't have too much trouble. =]
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Oshawott is evolving by
on 2015-06-06 04:31:00 UTC
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I actually don't like the final evolution of oshawott so I'm not going to allow Tatertot to evolve past dewott. It's really an aesthetic thing.
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Agreed wholeheartedly. by
on 2015-06-06 13:13:00 UTC
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Dewott is just the perfect combination of cute and cool-looking. It's my favorite Water-type starter (maybe even favorite Water-type in general). Meanwhile, Samurott's just kind of... blah. Not bad-looking exactly, but design-wise Dewott's got leagues on it. I feel the much same about Servine vs Serperior too. Gen V's middle evolutions were great.
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Couldn't go amiss with Snivy either. by
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Serperior is, of course, the best of the Gen V bunch, let no one tell you any different. *Is totally not biased due to Nuzlocke challenge experiences.*
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Heck yeah, Serperior! by
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*high fives*
After several Coils, there isn't much it can't wreck with Leaf Blade. Single-handedly took out Ghetsis in a monolocke. >:) -
*High fives!* by
on 2015-06-05 23:12:00 UTC
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It was a Serperior that took me all the way to Ghetsis the one time I managed to make it that far. Unfortunately, she and the rest of the team didn't make it through the battle. But she goes on in my heart (and also my competitive mono Grass team)!
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Fun fact: by
on 2015-06-06 17:13:00 UTC
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Contrary Serperior is best Serperior, and is also now tournament-legal. Ride the Leaf Storm to victory! =]
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Cementing it's place as the best not-yet Mega starter ever. by
on 2015-06-06 18:15:00 UTC
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It's called Serperior for a very good reason.
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Well, you say that... by
on 2015-06-06 18:29:00 UTC
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But Feraligatr (curse that ten-letter name limit in Gen 2!) has Sheer Force as a hidden ability and a much better stat distribution for its moveset. With Serperior, you kind of have to base your entire attacking set around its weirdly high Speed and access to Contrary Leaf Storm, whereas General LazerGator has a lot more versatility. =]
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Well, I wouldn't say that... by
on 2015-06-06 19:30:00 UTC
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Serperior has a much less versatile attacking move pool, I'll grant you that, but the combination of that weirdly high speed, decent bulk and a, frankly, under-appreciated status movepool grants some pretty great support/annoyance potential. The Serperior on my Grass team has even managed to rival my Whimsicott's staying power with a combination of clever (read: annoying) tactics and draining moves (admittedly, in a previous generation. I don't know how well she'd fair in the current competitive climate. I've gotta dust off the old Grass team one of these days and give them a spin.).
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Er... not so well, if I'm honest. by
on 2015-06-06 21:27:00 UTC
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Grass as an attacking type has always been subpar, and you can't really use Leaf Storm because so much resists it. Serperior's bulk is... acceptable? Sort of? It's about average, really, but Grass is frankly one of the more ropey defensive typings. The Ground-type resistance is useful, I'll grant you, but it's weak to a combination of total rubbish and very common coverage moves like Flamethrower. Poison being super-effective also hurts, as Poison-types are experiencing something of a renaissance in Gen VI with the advent of Fairy-type and its weaknesses to pollution (thanks Ferngully fairies) and cold iron (thanks High European we-spell-it-with-an-ae-cuz-it-am-the-cool faeries). It can offer some useful stuff, but pure Grass-type's actually quite rubbish.
That said, STAB Leaf Storm'll cover a multitude of sins after a decent boost, and it does have access to Giga Drain if memory serves, so whack on an AssVest and a couple of other coverage moves (does it get Earth Power? idk) and give it 128 EVs in Special Attack and Special Defense along with 252 in Speed. It'll be handy as a lategame sweeper or for use as a wallbreaker against bulky walls. =] -
Well, turns out I was completely mistaken. by
on 2015-06-07 13:13:00 UTC
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Apparently, this is the optimal competitive set on Showdown:-
Serperior @ Life Orb
Timid Nature
IVs: 29 HP (all others standard - this spread decreases the damage from your LO)
252 SpA/4 SpD/252 Spe
Leaf Storm
Dragon Pulse
Hidden Power Fire
Giga Drain
There are arguments to be made for Glare, Taunt, and Synthesis in that last slot, but a boosted Giga Drain can heal a lot and still do decent damage. Dragon Pulse is there for coverage and HP Fire is the way to go - there are arguments for HP Ground, chief among them being Heatran, but Fire hits more stuff harder, like Scizor and Ferrothorn. It has a simple function, that being Leaf Spam and its inbuilt Nasty Plot, and it's effective in OU, especially because of its ability to outspeed common threats unboosted - and since it can't boost its speed because Contrary, that's an important thing to remember.
Its bulk ain't great and sometimes it fails in its duty to OHKO bulky Water-types (though Mega Swampert gets rekt), but there's quite a lot to like about Serperior. Hopefully its inevitable Mega retains Contrary and a halfway-decent secondary typing. It'd be interesting for it to get, say, Dragon-type and have it be some kind of Eastern wyrm-lookin' thing, and it'd fit in with the regal theme it's got going on - plus, Dragon Pulse is about the only proper coverage move it has, so, y'know, there's that. Ground-type would also be interesting if it got some proper coverage, though that nasty 4x weakness to Flying is unpleasant in a tier with Talonflame in it.
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I think Fire could be pretty interesting by
on 2015-06-08 16:54:00 UTC
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It'd be completely appropriate too, considering the connection between Serperior and its preeveolutions to the sun, according to the Pokedex (which hasn't really seen any in-game utility thus far). Instead of Contrary, then, it could have Drought. It'd lose it's free boost with Leaf Storm, but you could, say, keep it unevolved for a turn or two to set up, then evolve and wreck with Flamethrower and Giga Drain. They'd have to give it a completely new set of moves to account for the type change, but it'd not be the first time that's happened (coughcoughHeracrosscough).
Whatever typing they give it though, lots of gold ornamental fringes and frills and a massive headdress is definitely the to go. It is royalty after all, and who wouldn't want to see a Time Lord Serperior? -
If it does show up and it's like that? by
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The Notary WILL get one. So shall it be. =]
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Yes. I want this so much. by
on 2015-06-10 01:26:00 UTC
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Gamefreak, don't let us down.
Now you've got me thinking now what kind of Pokemon the Notary would have if she trained. Along with Serperior, I feel like Froslass would match well with her. Somehow an Ice/Ghost type just fits. Heavens knows why.
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Heinous Cow Antrilovorasilendar wants to battle! by
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Serperior @ Life Orb
Contrary
Timid Nature
IVs: 29/31/31/31/31/31
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Moveset:-
Leaf Storm
Dragon Pulse
Hidden Power Fire
Glare (come on, it's the Notary's mon, of course it runs Glare)
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Persian @ Life Orb
Technician
Timid Nature
IVs: Full
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset:
Nasty Plot
Hyper Voice
Icy Wind
Hidden Power Ghost
((Smogon recommends Water Pulse over Icy Wind, but personally, I think Tree likes to be a tricksy hobbitses and goes for the speed-lowering.))
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Venomoth @ Black Sludge
Wonder Skin
Timid Nature
IVs: Full
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Moveset:-
Sleep Powder
Quiver Dance
Baton Pass
Bug Buzz ((Substitute's also good here, but Tree Does Not Care For Taunt.))
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Starmie @ Life Orb
Analytic
Timid Nature
IVs: Full
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset:-
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rapid Spin
((This is the Starmie set that best synergises with her QuiverPass moth friend. I wanted to use the Reflect Type set on her, but, well, she's not really about that. Though it is pretty awesome. While Rapid Spin's a bit of a dead rubber, it's also a really good way to get around entry hazards as long as you've dealt with any Ghost-types.))
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Talonflame @ Choice Band (one day they'll bring back the type gems, tf, and then you'll be in Ubers no question)
Gale Wings
Adamant Nature
IVs: Full
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Moveset:-
Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
U-Turn
Steel Wing
((This is Tree's revenge killer, and one of the best at that role in Pokemon. THE NOTARY SHALL HAVE HER VENGEANCE!))
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Sharpedo @ Sharpedoite
Speed Boost --> Strong Jaw
Adamant Nature
IVs: Full
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Moveset:-
Protect
Crunch
Waterfall
Ice Fang
((Protect -> Speed Boost activates -> MEvolve -> Hit like a speeding bus with a front grille made of landmines. Job done.))
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And dat dat! Tree is difficult, but not impossible to beat. Her style is fast-paced, fragile, and involves rushing the enemy down. Mostly. She has the option to boost her special sweepers (in the form of Quiver Dance, which is AMAZING), but not so much her physical ones, though how much of a boost something like Mega Sharpedo really needs is open to interpretation. =] -
Those're some pretty scary sets. by
on 2015-06-11 02:38:00 UTC
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Beating down the opponent with a show of superior strength and strategy is so much Notary. Would be interesting to see her actually on the field battling with them. I can't imagine, though, that she'd be caught dead enjoying playing a human children's game about catching and raising cute monsters (but, I can see her obsessing over getting the perfect set of IVs and EVs for her perfect team of superior Pokemon).
By the way, liking the usage of Persian. Weak as it is and paper-thin as its defenses may be, it is still pretty awesome. Though, I do have a bit of a soft spot for cats (having made an entire team of them) and Technician users (see: my Ambipom, Scizor, Breloom and Roserade, even if she can't properly utilize it) -
It's the Notary. We needed at least ONE Nasty Plot user. =] by
on 2015-06-11 13:30:00 UTC
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I tried to get the Notary to use 'mons that reflected both her personality and her approach, which is to come at things a bit sideways and crush the foe completely, hence Persian. As an aside, I was debating whether or not to use a physical set with Covet, Bite (90 BP, 30% flinch hax chance, what's not to love?), Aerial Ace, and U-Turn and kick her out as a lead/scout, but she's a bit fragile for that and besides, it gives the Venomoth another person to QuiverPass to. Seriously, Quiver Dance is such a brilliant boosting move. The only better one I can think of is Shift Gear, and that really only benefits Sharpedo and Talonflame (because Talonflame needs more speed. =])
But yeah, I actually made this team on Showdown if you ever feel like having a go against Tree. I'm not terribly well-practiced with it yet, but oh well, them's the breaks. =] -
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I've a team I've been wanting to improve on. Seems as good a time as any to pull them out for a bit of practice. May not have much time for it today due to a bit of late spring cleaning, but I'm up for pitting them against Miss Notary's band sometime soon.
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Hm, interesting. by
on 2015-06-11 14:34:00 UTC
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I've a UU team that's rearing to battle something that isn't randoms.
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*minus one "now" (nm) by
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I suppose that's the biggest problem with Serperior by
on 2015-06-07 12:54:00 UTC
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Its special movepool is basically Grass and Dragon, and because Dragons are kind of going out of style thanks to the aforementioned Fairy type, without STAB to make those moves more effective, its special coverage potential is pretty abysmal. Contrary does somewhat make up for this, of course (a Leaf Storm-Boosted Hidden Power can be pretty devastating) but the lack of stronger coverage moves hurts pretty badly. That said, the physical movepool is so much more promising, boasting the likes of Aqua Tail, Outrage and Knock Off. With Coil, it could even perhaps make Iron Tail work. If they added Superpower or Horn Leech to the mix (unlikely though that is), Physical Serperior might actually have some presence.
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You want a real challenge? by
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Try a Nuzlocke challenge. I'm a tiny bit addicted, myself. ^^;
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Wow... by
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Yikes, that's a pretty daunting set of rules. All of my respect to someone who follows those rules to beat the game. Have you seen the Youngster Joey Challenge ? It's what inspired me to take this journey with my oshawatt.
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Personally... by
on 2015-06-05 19:03:00 UTC
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I prefer the Avatar:The Last Airbender challenge. Lots of fun, that.
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It's a piece of cake in Gen VI tho? by
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I mean, just pick Earth Nation, get a Lucario and Lucarionite, win 4 days. =]
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*lassos Earth Nation the mini-Badgermole* Got one for ya. by
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Also, yeah, AtLA challengers who pick the Earth Kingdom would wreck everything with Mega Lucario, but it's supposed to be a challenge. >:)
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A Badgermole!!! by
on 2015-06-05 20:45:00 UTC
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Can I have him? Please, please, pleaaaase! *stares hypnotized at the cute snout*
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Huh. by
on 2015-06-05 20:11:00 UTC
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Well, I'll be doing a Water Tribes Emerald run. Bound to be fun.
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For added Oh God Why: by
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Go for Treecko. Watch in horror as your rival gets Blaziken and misuses it terribly. =]
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Writing Romance Realistically by
on 2015-06-05 23:44:00 UTC
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I'm planning on writing something romantic, but I've never been in a romantic relationship,(except for crushes, do those suck) and my original plan was to just smash them together and yell "Friends!", until I could start yelling "KISS!", but I wanted to avoid common tropes that aren't true anyway, and also because I tend to avoid romance novels(yes yes, i'm a hypocrite) so I don't know what to avoid. Just send me tips and stuff, because the world and history for them is malleable as anything, and is subject to change, so I'll have to work them out myself.
If you have a post for this already (you definitely do but anyway), I suppose you could link me to that.
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What fictional romances do you like? by
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I guess the idea of struggling with writing romance is a little weird to me, because I'm a natural shipper; if I really like the chemistry between two characters, I end up writing a romance between them in my head. That doesn't mean I'm good at it; it just means that I tend to do it without really thinking about it. Also, I tend to like relationships that are messed-up on some level, so they're not necessarily the healthiest couple either, but a perfect relationship doesn't necessarily make for a good story.
So I'd look at what dynamics you like in fictional couples, if you don't have a real-life example to draw on. Which characters, if any, do you ship, and why? Are there any romances you've read that worked for you? Examine what draws you to those couples. I'm assuming you're dealing with original fiction, or at least original characters. Don't necessarily rip off canons that you like, but just use them as a source of inspiration.
Another good idea would be to check out blogs that review romance novels; lots of times, the commentary on what they did and didn't like in a novel can give you a good perspective on what works for people and what doesn't.
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Well... by
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My girlfriend and I were friends for six years, then developed mutual crushes last year, and got together recently. It isn't much different than being friends, and we haven't kissed yet -- we're going slow in the hopes of avoiding the curse of high school relationships -- it's basically a friendship, except with mutual attraction and more physical contact. Things will probably be different if/when we make it to the "fall in love" bit, but it seems to be working for us. :)
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RE: Romances by
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I would recommend reading the older classic romance stories (i.e. "Romeo and Juliet", "Pride and Prejudice", etc.). And look into the historical backgrounds of those stories, too.
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Romeo and Juliet is not a good love story.
The best description I can come up with is what happens when two people are fanbrats for each other. It's lust.
I've heard a critic that I respect state, with utter sincerity, that Twilight is a better love story than Romeo and Juliet. -
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We can debate whether or not is it a good love story until the cows come home. My main point is that reading the good romances will help get a feel for the genre.
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I got incredibly lucky, but I apparently got it right. by
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Take a look at Fade to Black, and the missions leading up to it. I was basically writing blind, and I still managed to make Valon and Kala starting a relationship look natural.
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I know of something that might be useful for both of you. by
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It is right over here.
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Thanks! by
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This looks really useful. Even as someone who has had a few romantic experiences, I love this reference.
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Favorite PPC Pairings? by
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Somewhat inspired by the thread below, what PPC characters do you ship? What makes you think they work well together? Are they canon pairings, or is there no evidence outside of your head?
My choices:- Jay/Acacia - Okay, so technically this is less based in canon, and has more to do with this goodfic entry in the Badfic Games. But the way it was written made me love it in canon, too.
- Trojie/Pads - A classic pairing. I love their dynamic and the (NSFW!) fic where they finally get together is probably my favorite slash fic that I've read.
- Valon/Kala - I'm fairly proud of myself on this one, because I was shipping them before it was canon. (/hipster) I feel like they've always had a lot of chemistry, and it's really cute to see Valon become an ascended fanboy of sorts. I'm looking forward to seeing where they take it from here!
- Iximaz/Thanasius - Not a PPC pairing so much as a Plort pairing. But once again, I was shipping it before it was canon. I actually came very close to mentioning it after reading this fic, but I didn't want to say anything, since it's on the border between shipping characters and shipping writers. It's nice to see I was right.
- Jenni/Supernumary - This is probably the one I feel the most guilty about. I know that Nume isn't interested in a relationship with anyone, and I really shouldn't be shipping him at all, but he's so tsundere with Jenni that I can't resist.
- Ilraen/Zeb - Easily the crackiest pairing on the list, since they've never interacted in any way. The only "evidence" I have is that Zeb likes the Animorphs. But they're both sweet-natured, innocent nonhumans, and I picture them being very cute together. The fact that they both have explicitly bishonen human forms doesn't hurt, either. But seeing as Iximaz and Neshomeh are working on a co-write, maybe it will end up being more canon that it seems?
As a side note, please don't take this the wrong way if I didn't mention a couple. It doesn't mean they're poorly written; as you can probably tell, I have kind of weird taste. - Jay/Acacia - Okay, so technically this is less based in canon, and has more to do with this goodfic entry in the Badfic Games. But the way it was written made me love it in canon, too.
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MOG! Guys, the shipping! by
on 2015-06-09 05:35:00 UTC
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I'm going to take a different approach to shipping. Instead of one type of relationship, I am going to look at four. This is Homestuck-style Quadrant Shipping.
Quadrant 1: Flushed - The one you already know about. Romantic Love.
Xericka/Gremlin - Go read this story and you will know why I ship it.
Quadrant 2: Pale - This one is interesting because it is really what every agent pair should be. Opposites that balance each other. Non-Romantic.
Suicide and Diocletian - She brings common sense to balance his suicidal tendencies. He brings down-to-Earth-iness to balance her Sueish tendencies. They know how to handle each other.
Quadrant 3: Ashen - A weak relationship based on strife or competition. The thing that makes this interesting is that there is a third partner, who mediates and keeps things from getting out of control. Non-romantic.
Nume/Jenni/Ilraen - Nume is a difficult person to be around. I know, shocker. Occasionally friction between him and Ilraen gets to a point where they need a mediator. Jenni is an insufferable busybody, which makes her perfect for that role. She keeps things from boiling over between the partners.
Quadrant 4: Caliginous - A pair who are attracted to each other despite severe dislike. Pretty foreign to most people. Romantic Hate.
Suicide/Nume - Read this mission and tell me they shouldn't just get a room. Also a popular choice in the Badfic Game.
There are more examples of each, of course. The PPC is practically built on Pale relationships. These are just a few that I like.
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I don't really ship. by
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Other than canon ships. Like Nesh said, I'm not usually looking for them. I do tend to notice them coming before the author reveals them, though. I guessed at Lee/Ian before it happened.
I guess I'm kind of leaning towards Laura Dukes/Danny Richardson? And I sort of thought Nathan/Ellipsia was going to be a thing, but EllipsisFlood seems to have left, which makes me sadface. :( -
Ships! by
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-Most, if not all, of these. As you said, reading (or writing, in my case) them gives you a whole new perspective. In particular, I totally ship
Jay/AcaciaByrdtree, am convinced of Agent/Dis, and find Selene's unrequited feelings for Dafydd pretty convincing too.
-Alec/Verra (kippur's agents). There's something about the ADHD mage and his dragon wife that makes me smile.
-Isaiah/Quen (Araeph & NenyaQuende). Araeph's spinoff is the first really big one I remember, and may be the only long-running spinoff I've read in full (other than, uh, mine); I think they're really cute.
-Duros Black/Architeuthis. Yes, I know he's married, but come on - the DIA and Intel hung out together during Crashing Down, and I'm sure their lead agents got to spend a lot of time in each other's company. Ahem.
I'll stop there; that last one's already verging on 'my own stuff', and I've got way too many to go through. ^_~
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Shipping?? by
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I do love me some good shipping!
Ilraen and Zeb are getting along very nicely at the moment of my writing this. How that's going to be interpreted is up for everyone else. ;)
My favorite pair would have to beLibrinaDafydd/Constance, because you just can't beat her going into the Halls of Mandos and demanding her boyfriend back. Best. Ship. Ever.
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Aww, thanks. ^_^ (nm) by
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Seconded with regards to Valon and Kala. by
on 2015-06-07 20:01:00 UTC
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Aside from that, however, the only other pairing that I can see as being sensible without gutting the PPC canon would probably be my own Cupid with eatpraylove's Violet, because the latter was paired with Pit when the former was still possessing him. It would therefore make sense to have the two of them try and restart the relationship the honest way, with all the interaction and character development such a prospect would entail.
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Trojie/Pads by
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We were never quite sure whether it was canon or not, and it was glorious. ^^
Also Archer/Sabbat, which may be the only confirmed male gay couple to date. (Which is kinda weird.)
And yeah, I'm boring and ship the canon(ish) couples. I don't generally think much about who's going to end up with whom.
BTW, Nume is not really tsundere. He lacks the dere-dere side. He is all tsun-tsun. However, this ship amuses me and I support it, even if it will never, ever happen. ^^
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There are two! You forgot Eusabius/Zerenze! (nm) by
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Oh, right! by
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And they are kind of adorable. I guess I categorize them more as an interspecies relationship than a gay relationship, since that would seem to present the more prominent challenges—to me, anyway. Mandibles, y'know.
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Yeah, I try not to think about the mandibles. by
on 2015-06-08 15:32:00 UTC
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It also doesn't help that the only mention of female elites I can recall in the entire Halo universe is one of the novels saying, "and the ladies stay on the home world." So they rather feel like a mono-gender race, anyway.
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A female Elite shows up in the Halo Legends animations. by
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Female Sangheili are a good deal prettier than the males.
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In character it was. (nm) by
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Ships? by
on 2015-06-07 08:21:00 UTC
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I'm not much for shipping, but it happens to me from time to time.
-Christianne Shieh and Eledhwen Elerossiel - the classic Will They or Won't They couple of the PPC (they are, apparently).
-Librina. Yes, they have a ship name. No, it's not canon. At all.
-TheShyIon x an actual shy ion because I cannot resist the pun. Sorry, Shy.
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Executing... by
on 2015-06-07 18:14:00 UTC
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How do you Agents not get traumatised or guilty over executing Mary Sues and the like?
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One of my agents is part of a group... by
on 2015-06-08 16:26:00 UTC
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...that is sworn to kill the various undead of his home continuum. He sees the Sues in that light now, so he has no trouble. And like it's been said, they don't count as people. They are the vampires of fanfiction, and certainly not the good kind.
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They're not people. by
on 2015-06-08 06:20:00 UTC
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It's more like killing a zombie than carrying out an execution.
They're people-shaped and they look like people, but they don't act like people. They don't have full personalities, and the ones in the published missions are usually not salvageable.
Every once in a while there'll be a salvageable one, and those are the ones that get recruited. Even then, they aren't full-fledged characters at recruitment. They have to go through FicPsych and become more complex and three-dimensional.
But that's just the theory. The actual agents may see it many different ways. Some of them may see it as sad but necessary. Some may see themselves as soldiers and the Sue as the enemy. Some may enjoy getting revenge or just enjoy the challenge (nothing says our agents can't have a sociopathic streak). I even recall one particular dinosaur agent who sees the hunt for 'Sue about the same way a lion would see the hunt for gazelle.
If your character really and truly hates killing things, including Mary Sues, zombies, and cockroaches, they may not survive long in the DMS. Usually, they drift toward Bad Slash, Intel, or the DIC, or a non-action job.
Gotta admit it: Those Sues and Stus do look an awful lot like people. And however much your agents remind themselves that they aren't people, there's a sentimental tendency that says that if it's person-shaped and pleads for its life, it just might be a person. Doesn't matter that it bleeds glitter and makes horribly-spelled entreaties to an ensnared lust object; emotions don't always follow logic and emotions can easily say, "Hey! That's a person! You're not a cold-blooded murderer!"
How do you deal with killing something that looks and feels a lot like a person, at least at first glance? Depends on who you are. I think every agent responds differently. -
Besides, not all agents are 'person shaped' themselves by
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Of my four agents, only one is actually human (and he's a former Death Eater bit character so he has no problems killing creatures whether they look like humans or not).
The rest are an humanoid fox, a radioactive moss creature and a devil in a human looking body. None of them have any reason to equate "human shaped" with "being a person (who should be allowed to live)". -
My character's perspectives. by
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Unfortunately, I don't think either of my agents are self-aware enough to really give a proper response to the question, so I'll answer from an out-of-universe perspective.
Aaron has a somewhat complex moral code that mostly comes from his home continuum. There actually is a karma scale in the Fallout games, but your karma only takes a hit from killing people if they're good. If it's listed as a hostile, you can kill it in its sleep without taking a single penalty. If the person you kill is evil enough, you can actually get karma points for killing them. So for him, killing an evil being like a Sue isn't something bad; it could even be argued to be a morally good act. In character, Aaron would probably say something along the lines of "They're monsters, just ones that look like humans."
Natasha, to be frank, has probably killed people more innocent than your average Mary Sue; the organization she was supposed to be a member of isn't exactly a pleasant one. Her philosophy is that it's better to kill one person than to allow many people to suffer; she's aware that her home continuum has already indicated that this is an ultimately destructive outlook, and on some level she's accepted that it's her fate to end unhappily. -
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Not pretty or especially clean, but safer for everyone than leaving it alive.
If it helps your insecurities (which I share, believe me), we don't kill every Mary Sue we come across. Just the ones that are truly beyond help. We let the harmless ones merge with canon, and we recruit the ones with some potential. Heck, two of my agents and a staff member were recruited from badfic. -
Because that's ridiculous. by
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That's like feeling guilty about every bacterium that dies when you wash your hands or clean the kitchen. It is exactly the wrong way to look at things. The only time I've tried to make a character who thought about things that way was Algie, and... well, Algie has something of an excuse for thinking like that.
You can also look at it like warfare. US military training tends to emphasise teaching your ground troops to totally dehumanise the enemy. That way you don't have to feel any of that complicated "ethics" nonsense in the middle of a firefight and get yourself and your friends shot. I imagine a similar process occurring among the PPC agents kind of by osmosis, with veteran agents becoming hardened to the job (or going flamethrower crazy) and newer ones not feeling the same way. It'd be an interesting take on a central part of the PPC dynamic, and I'd definitely be up for exploring that in Interludes. Possibly involving FicPsych. =] -
Quite frankly... by
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It's a matter of doing what we're supposed to be doing. We can't just burst into a mission with full intent to kill. That is murder.
Observing the story, what the author is trying to do, and the character(s) within the story as well as what charges can be determined are all very important things to do, as part of procedure.
That limits any guilt, and as for limiting trauma, it's simply something you need to get used to, and the best way to do that is by not taking it too far out of bounds. Sadism does no one good. -
I ask my sister that every time I see her. by
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She's never come out with a decent answer - just like these people here. It's like they don't understand the simple truth: murder is a sin. By their actions, they condemn their very souls.
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Oh, is Caleb whinging again? Figures. He's got a real bee in his bonnet about this one. And I mean, yes, murder's a sin, of course it is, I'm not gonna say different - but that's not going to apply to fictional people, is it? If the Father was going to condemn people for offing invented characters, He'd have to start with, y'know, authors.
My little brother refuses to listen to me. Holier-than-thou Light One, thinks he's the last word on morality just because, oh wait, there's no because, he just does.
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And so we see the lengths to which Dark Ones will twist the truth to meet their own ends. I can hardly believe I'm related to her.
Caleb Perbur, Paladin of the Basel School
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Shut it, you.
~Deborah, Demas Paladin. Call me Debs.
((Opinions from the future count, right? Deborah and Caleb are both deeply religious - but they still view the whole murder issue in wildly different ways.
And oh yes, the Sundering is still there. You didn't think a little thing like altering the future would get rid of them, did you...? ~hS)) -
One would think... by
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That altering the future would merely split the time-lines by creating a new one. You can't really change what was done, can you now?
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No, you can't. by
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But you can alter where the you in the present ends up. The PPC we write about was originally headed towards the Sundering; since then, it's had its future changed at least half a dozen times.
Quite how the post-Sundering PPC can travel to a timeline that's no longer their past is unclear... though Lou seems to spend a lot of time jumping timelines, so it may be her doing. ^_^
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When you think of it, it's quite simple... by
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It's not time travel, it's trans-dimensional travel. You just need to change your vehicle, so to speak.
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You're kidding, right? by
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Have you seen what those Sues do to the canon worlds, to the characters? Forcing the canons to act against their most basic natures, forcing the canons to fall in love with them, torturing the canons, killing canons if they get in the way of the Sue's preferred ship? Messing with the laws of nature itself? It's horrible, what it is.
Honestly, the most traumatizing part of the job is having to see what the Sues force the canons to go through. Well... that, and the times when you slip up. Like Agent Laura Dukes said, our various alterations weren't by choice. The Sues won't hesitate to kill you instead. She and I were the lucky ones. -
What everyone else said. by
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Plus, remember this: there wouldn't be any thought of guilt if the tables were turned. They would either immediately kill you for daring to get in their overly perfect grills or get into your head and make you their slaves.
All this cybernetics I've got? It's not a fashion choice. I hesitated during a mission and paid the price. I was lucky enough that the Sue wanted to gloat. For all the times they didn't? Well, that's why the PPC has a cemetery. -
Sues are a virus. by
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They infect the host and change its programming to suit themselves, spewing toxins and causing catastrophic functional breakdowns as they go. We're the antibodies that clear them out. Unfortunately, they also replicate and adapt to new hosts faster than we can keep up with. Knock one out, a hundred more spring up somewhere else.
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Pest control. by
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Sues are no more people than an ant infestation is.
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We usually don't think of them as people. by
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They're monsters, ruining the worlds we love.
The ones that are worth getting guilty over typically don't get killed. They assimilate, or they're recruited.
((You're asking the agents, not the Boarders, so I'm guessing this is supposed to be in-character.))
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Play as themselves? by
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Did Jay and Acacia play as themselves? As in, use their real names and forms?
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I highly doubt those were their real names. by
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About their appearance, we'll never know unless there's around some Boarder who met them IRL.
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Can confirm not their real names. by
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But there's an awful lot of (mostly departed) Boarders who used their real appearances for their agents.
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About Embryo Extraction Kits and uterine replicators... by
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Can they be shrunk to work on characters that are small enough to fit in the palm of your hand?
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Maybe you need an adapter. by
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Like, you know how you get an adapter to plug one wire into another when the plugs are different sizes? Maybe the EEK has an adapter set for unusually small or large embryos. And presumably a larger jar (or a bigger-on-the-inside jar) for those really big ones.
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I think you mean one of two things... by
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Either you're asking if you can use them to remove an embryo in someone who is small, or if you can implant the (presumably)normal-sized embryo in someone who is small. The answer to the former would likely be yes, absolutely. The latter, likely not. After all, I really don't think a human-sized embryo is fitting into somebody as small as you suggested.
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The former.
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Dude... by
on 2015-06-07 23:04:00 UTC
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Please stop posting so many threads, you're pushing stuff off the main page. If you have multiple questions, ask them in one thread.
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Viewer Gender Confusion strikes again!
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Crossovers by
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How does one handle Marvel or DC in the Department of Implausible Crossovers? They have crossovers within their own story-lines. Also DC crossed over with "Mortal Kombat" and Marvel with "Street Fighter".
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Well... by
on 2015-06-08 04:08:00 UTC
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I think the Marvel and DC universes are both pretty immune to the "implausible" part of that department. The list of continua that have been crossed with one or both of them is pretty extensive.
Star Trek, Alien/Predator, Terminator, Looney Toons, Judge Dredd, Transformers, Archie Comics ("Archie Meets The Punisher"...no joke.)
If you find a badfic that has a crossover with DC or Marvel, chances are good that it is bad for some other reason. I would put it under the jurisdiction of whichever department handles that aspect of it.
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on 2015-06-09 20:19:00 UTC
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-one? Something about how Marvel/DC canon is so convoluted and has had so much crazy stuff happen in it that most things could be plausible and it's really hard and arbitrary to determine what's a badfic. The wiki mentions it.
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Leave the comics, Al! by
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"But mom..."
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Well, regarding that.... by
on 2015-06-09 21:06:00 UTC
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"Due to continuous retconning and a usually sliding timescale, sometimes it can be hard to decide on what is really canon in a fanfic set in the DC Universe. According to the PPC Manual, this has made most agents give up on it, but some still accept missions there." - Quote from here.
Meaning that is hard to determine what is canon, no what is badfic. (In fact, there's at least one mission for the Main DCU.) The major problem with the canon, is not if something is or isn't, is to try to figure out from which canon it comes from. Why? Fans tend to combine, confuse and fuse elements and facts from Live-Action Movies, Animated Movies, Animated Series, Live-Action Series, Elseworlds/What if?/Alternate timeline/universe comics and Mainstream comics in their fanfics, and badfics usually top it off with misleading Fanbrat speculative ramblings, which are almost always wrong. So, if you want to take on a DCU or MU badfic, no one is going to stop you, but it'll be a very challeging endeavor, that will probably require you to have some sort of encyclopaedia on your side to take on.
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That's been... toned down a little. by
on 2015-06-10 09:07:00 UTC
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The original quote (which was written by Jay and Acacia themselves!) is archived here:
Some continua are under monitoring from Intelligence, searching for a sign of some coherent canon to be enforced (most big name comic books fit in there... it's impossible to keep track of the continuity when the writers are changing it every six seconds). Until then, there isn't enough to police, so fans can go berserk there.
Take it or leave it as you will.
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I agree. by
on 2015-06-08 09:11:00 UTC
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There is just about nothing that you could cross DC and Marvel with that would be implausible. By the way, I have a friend who read Archie Meets The Punisher. She told me it was actually not that bad.
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Are you sure about that? by
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Because I'm having a hard time imagining Metropolis in Middle-earth.
You see, most of the implausibility coming out from badfic crossovers involving the DCU or the MU, is because of badly used elements from those universes. Like Gotham City existing within the Fire Nation, and The Batman's indentity still being Bruce Wayne. Things like that are highly implausible in the Avatar-verse. And yes, what I just described, some else wrote it already.
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That looks more like it might be up DOGA's alley. Clearly someone has misplaced Gotham City. Also, DOGA might like to do some recruitment in the Fire Nation.
I could actually see DC crossing over nicely with Avatar. Aquaman is clearly a Water Bender. Wonderwoman might be an Earth Bender. Batman is one of those Chi Bender guys that don't have any power except knowledge of energy movement in the body. Superman is, of course, the Avatar.
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I dunno. by
on 2015-06-08 17:17:00 UTC
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If someone took the city of Metropolis and dropped it in Middle-earth somewhere, that sounds like a job for disentanglers to me. See TOS 18, "Two Worlds," when Hogwarts ended up somewhere near Lothlórien. Jay and Acacia were in the DIC at the time, so they had to deal with it.
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I am still not sold on "Gotham gets dropped into the Fire Nation" being necessarily badfic. Same goes for Metropolis into Middle-earth. There are plenty of reasons a location in the DCU could end up in another world.
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How about, 'No plausible explanation whatsoever'? by
on 2015-06-08 18:26:00 UTC
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And also, Bruce Wayne is misplaced too, again, with no explanation given.
But that wasn't the point, it was just an example of how a crossover involving a mainstream superhero continuum can go wrong, mainly by shoehorning an element from one, into another universe where it cannot exist or introduced with no explanation/justification. More examples?
- The Flash using Super-speed, in an universe with no Speed Force.
- A character receiving a Green Lantern Ring, when its personality clearly doesn't match the Ring's requirements (capable of overcoming a great fear).
- Making Adamantium and/or Vibranium deposits in places where there's no way those could have ever existed.
- Somehow replicating Captain America's shield... in an universe where the material of what it's made doesn't exist.
- Make Shazam/Capatin Marvel call down the lighting in a universe where the Greek pantheon, the Roman pantheon and/or Solomon don't exist or have never existed.
- Let any magical superhero/supervillian use its magic in an universe where its magic doesn't work that way, or doesn't exist at all.
And there are of course, the standards: awful grammar, unexplained OOC, unexplained character transplantations, a Replacement every once in a while, trivialization of canon events, etcetera.
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There may be plenty of good reasons, but then there are also plenty of bad reasons, such as "the author felt like it." No good explanation, no plausibility. And then you have to look at the follow-through. Unless you're going with something like one of the comic book universe's god-like beings rewriting reality for a laugh, the sudden presence of a modern city in a pre-modern world should cause quite a stir. If it doesn't, it's implausible.
So, as with most things, it's all in how it's handled.
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Hell, I'm fairly sure DC and Marvel crossed over once... (nm) by
on 2015-06-08 09:58:00 UTC
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They did by
on 2015-06-08 13:52:00 UTC
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Several times, in fact. I think Superman might have become Thor for a bit, even.
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Actually... by
on 2015-06-08 16:28:00 UTC
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He was fused with Thor once (Unlimited Access #4), and wielded Mjolnir another one (JLA/Avengers #4).
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I accidentally did not write out my full name. Sorry. (nm) by
on 2015-06-08 03:15:00 UTC
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I propose a pun contest. by
on 2015-06-08 12:41:00 UTC
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Everyone who wishes to enter a pun shall reply to this thread, leaving their best play on words. Three days from now (which, for me, will be June eleventh) I will signal an end to the entries, and a start to the voting. Everyone who wants to vote for the best pun will comment beneath their favorite. You may only vote once! The pun with the most votes wins..ah..er..bragging rights?
If anyone is opposed to this I'm quite fine with just letting it die. But if no one is- let the games begin! -
Okay, entry time is over! by
on 2015-06-11 18:07:00 UTC
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Let the voting begin! If you want, comment beneath the pun that you like the best!
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I'f I'm gonna throw my lot in this thing... by
on 2015-06-09 14:21:00 UTC
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...I might as well have it delivered via Allosaurus Express. That is, it will be sealed in an envelope made from cycad leaves and tied to the ankle of a carnosaur, which will in turn be led to wherever the pun contest is being held.
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A paleontologically-accurate pun? by
on 2015-06-09 14:35:00 UTC
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You must've boned up on the subject. It's amazing what you can do if you're willing to really dig in.
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No bones about it! by
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I was going to use the Tyrannosaurus Express, but I wasn't sure how to use a Cretaceous pun.
Ah, well. You can, uh, chalk it up to me wanting a more recognizable term!
(Get it? No? Fine. To explain: The Cretaceous period is derived from the Latin "creta", or chalk, referring to the extensive beds of calcium carbonate deposited by the shells of marine invertebrates found in the upper Cretaceous of western Europe.) -
That was pretty tenuous. by
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You should be tarred and
featherednot featheredfeatherednot feathered!feathers are realistic!feathers aren't cool!eagles shouldn't be plucked!tyrannosaurs shouldn't be fluffy!given bat-like wings.
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Oh, you mean like this guy? by
on 2015-06-10 13:26:00 UTC
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(Source: http://chrismasna.deviantart.com/art/Yee-qi-529958533)
This has been dragon around for so long, you have no idea. Might as well wing it and put it here! XD -
I find it hard to make up puns on the fly... by
on 2015-06-09 10:04:00 UTC
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but I suppose I shall have to wing it.
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Drat... by
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I used the same joke JUST now, and I totally forgot that you did it first.
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Oh balls, double post! *awaits the flood of clone jokes* (nm) by
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Nah, 's been done before. ^_^ (nm) by
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Drat... by
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I used the same joke JUST now, and I totally forgot that you did it first.
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...one, two, three, four, I declare a pun war? :) (nm) by
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Five, Six, Ten, Eleven... by
on 2015-06-10 13:33:00 UTC
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...because seven eight nine and got kicked outta heaven!
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Wah-wah-wah-waaaaah. by
on 2015-06-11 14:06:00 UTC
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Sorry, I've been dying to use that one.
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Unfortunately, I can't participate.. by
on 2015-06-08 16:09:00 UTC
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Thieves had broken into my house and stolen everything except my soap, shower gel, towels and deodorant. Dirty Bastards.
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Keep your language clean, please. (nm) by
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Oooh, a mini-PG! Look how sparkly its hat is! =] (nm) by
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... Wait, was that another pun? by
on 2015-06-08 17:23:00 UTC
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'Cuz I don't think "bastard" violates the PG-13 rating. Being a neat-freak will get you no soap from me. ^_~
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Maybe. by
on 2015-06-08 17:27:00 UTC
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I just lathe these types of puns.
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Ugh, why would you assoil my ears with that one? (nm) by
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Assoil? It sounded quite clear to me. (nm) by
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I'd make my puns into poems... by
on 2015-06-09 10:35:00 UTC
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But I'm no good at grimeing verse.
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Lost something? *GIves you Ixmax the Mini-Boarder* (nm) by
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And that makes two mini-Boarders! by
on 2015-06-08 17:32:00 UTC
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Enjoy Ixmaz and Ixmax. They're twins! :D
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I wash my hands from this. (nm) by
on 2015-06-08 17:29:00 UTC
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*Of this. (nm) by
on 2015-06-09 13:57:00 UTC
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Dammit. by
on 2015-06-09 14:30:00 UTC
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I wasn't sure which was correct; I see that my guess is washed-up.
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A mistake like that won't tarnish your reputation. (nm) by
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Should I change it to 'illegitimate children'? by
on 2015-06-08 16:29:00 UTC
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But, seriously though, sorry about that :)
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((Sorry, old man, I'm taking over this thread!)) (nm) by
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Is anyone up for an MST? by
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And if they are, do they have suggestions for a fic? I was thinking something like... this.
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I'd be willing. by
on 2015-06-10 05:49:00 UTC
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I don't really know that much about the Phoenix Wright canon (though I'm pretty sure that fic would boggle the minds of people who had never even heard of Phoenix Wright). I can look around for a few fics in canons I'm more familiar with, if you like.
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Ok, sure. by
on 2015-06-11 14:19:00 UTC
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Do you have a Gmail?
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Seeking betas for Iximaz cowrite by
on 2015-06-09 00:16:00 UTC
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So Ix and I cowrote a My Little Pony mission. It's to my old badfic.
Only one or two more betas, please. We've already had one, and we don't feel the need to go overboard. -
And that should be all the betas we need. Thanks! (nm) by
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I can check grammar,,, by
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I'm not super familiar with the canon, though.
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Aaaand invited! by
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Suppose I should have said that when I actually sent the invites, eheheh.
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You called? by
on 2015-06-09 01:38:00 UTC
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As busy as I am these days, I think I can get enough time to look into this thing tomorrow after 1 PM my time. Can't wait to check out your work! :)
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Invite sent! (nm) by
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New Continuity Council by
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Presenting to you a story in the style of Continuity: Gallifrey Bickers, in which the Continuity Council of Gallifrey-in-Exile has another meeting and things get a little crazy: Continuity: Gallifrey Shrinks.
Thanks again to our many, many betas (Scapegrace, Lily Winterwood, Huinesoron, and Desdendelle). Continuity: Gallifrey Shrinks would be less without your suggestions, ideas, and occasional provision of dialogue (especially from Scapegrace on the last one).
We hope you’ll enjoy this as much as we enjoyed writing it.
~DF & Iximaz
A note: we’ll be updating the wiki, of course, and also our own agent pages. Lily, I (DawnFire) am also willing to update Dis and the Agent’s as well, if you want me to. The rest of you are on your own, though. -
Hehehe, this is excellent! by
on 2015-06-10 22:05:00 UTC
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Love it! ^_^
P.S. Yes, not dead, still around lurking. Not as much as I'd like due to many demands on my time (a World One TARDIS would be a wonderful thing), but I will pop my head in whenever possible. Might even get the time to write properly!
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OH MY GOSH YOU'RE BACK! by
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*flying glomp tacklehug*
I was asking around to see if anyone could get in contact with you while this was being written and it was a bust. So glad you liked it!
And, ah, I linked the Fisherman's page to the Continuity Council page, which you might have already seen. Sorry for taking the liberty, but I thought you'd vanished.
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*accepts and consumes cookies*
I hadn't but thanks for doing it - even if I was around at the time, I wouldn't have minded at all!
I should add my email address to my wiki user page so that I'm more easily contactable.
I'll always respond if prodded about things, I just don't read the Board frequently enough to keep up properly at the moment... sorry! ^^' -
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No problem, since I like editing the Wiki; I'm just glad to hear you don't mind.
And yes, that would make things much easier. It seemed like nobody knew how to contact you, so it was a bit sad we didn't get your input on the ConCoun thing while it was being written. -
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Ah, no matter - I'll pitch in with the next one! :D
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Honestly tired of Time Lords, but this was a fun read. (nm) by
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This was brilliant. by
on 2015-06-09 10:43:00 UTC
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I loved Continuity Council before, and the addition of Rina makes everything 10 times as awesome. ^_^
Actually, I've been listening to the Gallifrey audio series recently, and it's quite a bit like this. Albeit with a lot less arguing over fanfiction and not as many age regressions (although there was that one time...). It might be interesting to get some political subplot in there next time. And possibly a savage bodyguard or two. I dunno. Just an idea.
Can't wait for the next Council meeting!
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That's still hilarious. ^_^ by
on 2015-06-09 10:23:00 UTC
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One thing the Betaing Council seems to have missed - this:
[Kozar lets go of the Librarian and walks towards the Reader, who has been watching them and sobbing. When she sees the Klingon walking towards her, she abandons her corner and ammunition and runs to him, still sobbing.]
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Morgan: What do you expect me to do? I’m busy. And there’s a Klingon holding him by the shoulder, since you seem to have missed that.
Not any more there's not.
Yeah, I love this story. I can't help it; the Council cracks me up every time.
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Funnily enough... by
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...and all due respect to the Betaing Council--that one's intentional. The idea was that we jump back (in time) a tiny bit--the Fisherman would have had to be walking extremely slowly to have only reached Morgan after Kozar had spoken to Rina and the Librarian *and* gone on to be hugged by the Reader, and while he did start out trudging, he seems to have started running at some point. Guess it's not quite as obvious that it's not consecutive as I thought. Maybe it could be changed to the following?
Fisherman: [has run over to Morgan, tripping over his too-large shoes] Morgan, make him stop! He’s being mean!
(Morgan is definitely one of my favorites in this, actually. So teenager-y. Admittedly, it's pretty hard to choose a consistent favorite, but she has some of the very best lines.)
Also funnily enough, I've been catching other tiny things on my read-through this morning. Some of it's just stylistic or a missing comma, but there's also one instance of a line being changed and the reply not following suit. Luckily, it's just a matter of removing one word. Fixes to follow.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, though :) We did rather try to emulate the style of Gallifrey Bickers; it does seem to have turned out shorter, but hopefully otherwise it's a good spiritual sequel.
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Or possibly... by
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... just make it explicit:
[A little earlier]
Fish:...
There's no reason not to do that, after all.
Do you mind if I add a link to Gallifrey Shrinks to my Continuity Council list? Since their canon is still fairly small, I'd love to keep it all together like that.
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Fair enough. I can do that. by
on 2015-06-09 15:04:00 UTC
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Sure? I assume you don't mean the wiki page, since we've already updated that.
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We're working on it now. :) by
on 2015-06-09 15:02:00 UTC
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And yeah, go right ahead! :D
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This... by
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This is the most adorably ridiculous thing I've ever seen in the PPC. Nicely done!
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New collaborative mission! by
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Fic: Midnight Green
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Elaborating on the formatting problem SMF mentioned by
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It looks like the height of the lines is lower than the characters’ height, and it starts with this quote:
Twilight made an observation. “I'm noticing a pattern here. There seem to be different numbers of pictures for each of us. Who has the least?”
The next lines of the mission are still okay, but then the badfic’s formatting spills over into the mission, beginning with:
“That’s a horrible excuse, you’d have to be stupid or drunk to believe that,” Rina hissed. “And Valon, your Stu is creeping me out.”
(I may have seen something similar in other GDocs, but didn’t pay attention then. I have no idea whether this kind of glitch is visible before you set the GDoc to "published" or how to avoid or fix it.)
No other nitpicks, and congrats for doing a good job there.
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Format fixed! On my end, anyway. (nm) by
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*faints* by
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That's, what, twice now the Great and Powerful HG hasn't had any nitpicks? Looks like the DIC is going to need to find a new flash patch symbol!
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I've noticed that with other GDocs, too. by
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If it bothers you too much, you can remove the "/pub" from the end of the url and see it in the Word format. I don't know what causes it; I was going to suggest it was caused by changing the font or something, but the settings seem the same between this mission and one of my own that doesn't have the glitch. Sorry I don't have any suggestions to fix it.
The mission itself was really good! I've got to say, I admire those with the nerve to spork their own bad writing. I can't think of my own past badfics without cringing, so I don't think I'd be able to mission them any time soon. -
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I loved the part at the end where you turned the guy's shack into a clubhouse for the minis XD
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Response ficlet! by
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RC #227:
"Well," said Falchion as he read the mission report, "it was about time somebody else in our department killed a badfic of their own creation."
"To be quite honest, I will have to say 'au contraire' to the notion that you were the one who wrote my homefic," Ripper replied. "I was angry at you back then because I thought you were the Stu, not the writer."
"All the same, Terrordactyl was a self-insert. Isn't that the same thing? I mean, Midnight Green was one too as far as Valon is concerned."
"...Huh. Good point."
"At any rate, I have to give it to Valon - he handled things a lot better than we did. I don't think Rosie's going to forget being sent to Medical for heart failure anytime soon!"
Ripper blinked in surprise. "Heart failure?"
"Did I tell you that? I think I did. Did I?"
"...I don't remember, honestly. I wasn't there, after all. Must've been what happened to that one antagonistic replacement, right?"
Falchion sighed and shook his head. "Apparently."
It was then that Ripper remembered something Falchion had said just now. "Wait, Midnight Green? Isn't that a Suvian name in of itself?"
"Not in the context of My Little Pony. Especially the latest Friendship is Magic generation."
"You have a little pony?"
Falchion stared at him, open-beaked, and then facewinged in silent laughter. "Oh, Ripper... You really do need to get out more."
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Fantastic work, all in all! There really should've been more horse puns from everybody, honestly, but I'll live. Like I said, the only thing I'm less than happy about is that Midnight Green didn't live and atone for his sins, because I was really hoping you'd recruit the guy and have an ex-Stu agent for once, but I'll let that slide because you guys explained your reasoning to me yesterday. And I can understand your loss of interest in this show - it happened to me too after Season 3, albeit for different reasons, though I do have plans to catch up on the rest of the episodes once I get a job and such.
Oh, and regarding "Raise This Barn": Whenever I hear that song (which is awesome btw), my walnut-sized brain always brings up the memetic Mondegreen of "Racist Barn". Mental note, take advantage of this in my next mission with Rayner... -
I'm sorry, you'll "let it slide"? by
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You do realize you don't decide who we recruit, or don't recruit? I'm terribly sorry if we disappointed you, but you'll just have to deal with it. MG was unsalvageable, and even if he was, there's no guarantee he would have been recruited, let alone used. Not everybody goes around recruiting every last badfic character they see, after all.
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In fact, there's only one division that does that. by
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That'd be Active Recruitment, under the auspices of the DIA and run by Mansfield, of whom little is known. One thing that's certain, however, is that he ain't written by you, nor is he you. I think you're being incredibly offensive to Voyd to be surprised he didn't do that - not only, as he was at pains to point out, is he not a brony any more (so what he'd be doing with a pony agent is anyone's guess), he also knows the character a hell of a lot better than you do. I'll trust his judgement of his characters over yours, ta.
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I didn't say I was surprised... by
on 2015-06-10 16:28:00 UTC
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I was acting on old, outdated assertions, and anyway, they already told me during the beta review process. I intended to say that whether or not Midnight Green could be recruited was their decision, and I do not mean to contest that in any way.
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It's pretty obvious which one you think should've happened. by
on 2015-06-10 16:42:00 UTC
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You may recall that I was also part of that beta process, so I'm well aware of both parties thoughts on the matter. And yours. I don't think you're contesting it, you're not that dumb; I think you're having a bit of a paddy because they didn't do exactly what you would have done, and you're having difficulty wrapping your head around it.
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Time to drop it. by
on 2015-06-10 17:02:00 UTC
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Skarmory apologized. There was no need to keep laying into him. You are the one being incredibly rude, now.
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Minor correction to Active Recruitment. by
on 2015-06-10 15:50:00 UTC
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It's a division of Personnel, not DIA. Source, see fourth paragraph.
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Ah. Mea culpa. =] (nm) by
on 2015-06-10 15:53:00 UTC
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I quite like it! by
on 2015-06-10 03:09:00 UTC
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I got a really nice sense of both your characters, and I found the whole thing quite good!
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Nice! ^^ by
on 2015-06-10 01:47:00 UTC
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That pun is terrible, which means of course that you two win everything. XD
There's something a bit wrong with the formatting (it's roughly 7/8ths through the mission): lines are overlapping. I can read them, but it's just a weird glitch-type thing. :/
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I'm only about halfway through so far, but I already love it by
on 2015-06-10 01:18:00 UTC
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Things that stand out so far? The way it being Valon's old badfic is handled (very satisfying, somehow), Zeb saying that Valon and Kala smell like Rina around the Librarian (best bit of teasing yet, I think), and, most especially, Valon trying to figure out unicorn magic. That was just fantastic, that whole scene.
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And I need a Twilight expert. by
on 2015-06-10 17:35:00 UTC
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See, I've found more cowrite fodder: a crossover between Inheritance and Twilight.
Now, I know the Inheritance Cycle pretty well. However, I know very little about Twilight in terms of its "story" and "characters" (and I'm not keen to find out, because I'm scared I'll enjoy it like I do Inheritance).
Bottom line: Anyone know Twilight who's a) willing to admit it, and b) willing to collab on this?
This also doubles as a new badfic thread, so... yeah. This fic kills Charlie. I don't know much about Twilight, but I know that Charlie Swan's supposed to be one of the series' better characters. -
Just for everyone else's future Twilight needs: by
on 2015-06-11 17:37:00 UTC
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I used to be a massive Twitard several years back, from about when I was twelve to when I was fourteen. Mercifully, I grew out of the phase, but for a while I was calling it my second-favorite series.
But, on the bright side, that means I remember just about everything about thatseriespiece of garbagething. So, if anyone ever needs a canon expert, I'm happy to help. -
What was your favourite? Inheritance? :-p (nm) by
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Re: What was your favourite? Inheritance? :-p by
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I have three words for this: by
on 2015-06-11 03:40:00 UTC
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Worst. Crossover. EVER.
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YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE FIC. by
on 2015-06-11 04:09:00 UTC
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I don't normally go capslock on the Board, but this fic deserves it. It, it's, it.
It.
I just. No.
And that was roughly my reaction upon first seeing it. It's making for a fun mission so far, though.
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They killed Charlie? by
on 2015-06-10 22:39:00 UTC
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Seems like a pattern - he bought it in that one Twilight/SPN crossover, too.
I'm certainly qualified as an advisor - I've read all but one of the books and seen all but one of the films. And read das_mervin's endless rants on how horrible the series is... -
Now I'm curious. by
on 2015-06-10 23:25:00 UTC
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Which book and which film are the ones that you didn't read/watch? Also, isn't Das Mervin amazing? :)
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Eclipse and BD Part 1 by
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Never saw the need to read Eclipse after seeing the film; and Mervin warned me* off BD Part 1 because of Meyer's increased creative control over it.
And, to be honest, I never saw any problems with the books until Mervin and Hyde pointed them out (well, apart from the fact that they're all really boring).
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WRT Breaking Dawn pt. 1 (un film de Stephenie Meyer) by
on 2015-06-11 11:29:00 UTC
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The problem wasn't strictly speaking SMeyer's increased influence, although that probably didn't help. For my money, it was more that it suffered from exactly the same problems as Deathly Hallows Part 1, only amplified by the fact that the overarching story of the Twilight series is retrograde, sexist garbage written by a religious weirdo I wouldn't trust to jot down a shopping list. They took the already boring first half of Breaking
YawnDawn and made it even more dull, primarily because the cinematography made it feel like a feature-length version of a really pretentious perfume ad.
Breaking Dawn 2 isn't anywhere close to being a good film either, but I will say that the bit with the lion is absolutely hilarious and should be taught in film schools as an example of how to do basically everything wrong. That alone was worth the price of admission, as far as I'm concerned. Also, in a deviation from the books, something actually happens in that installment: we see our friendly neighbourhood "vegetarian vampires" (tomatoes bewaaaaaaaare!) and the mates Carlisle scared up face off against the Volturi and... it works! It's a surprisingly competent action scene that only makes the one in Eclipse look even more laughably bad.
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"This isn't a vampire-versus-werewolf battle! This is a bunch of hipsters in a dog park."
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Yeah... by
on 2015-06-11 21:08:00 UTC
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Thing is, the filmmakers managed to make halfway competent films out of books 1-3, mostly by deviating from said books. Meyer wouldn't let them do that to her ultimate fantasy, which is why Breaking Dawn became two films full of padding and very little else.
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Team Volturi? Bah. Team Tyler's Van all the way! (nm) by
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Naw. by
on 2015-06-11 22:48:00 UTC
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If we're talking about that... by
on 2015-06-12 11:45:00 UTC
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"I'd Focke that Wulf", a Fate/stay night x Twilight crackfic-slash-slashfic. Possibly NSFW, but pretty damn funny.
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I'm in. by
on 2015-06-10 22:23:00 UTC
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I'm also among those who decided to check out the books when everyone else wouldn't stop reading them. I read the first three before going on vacation for a month or so and coming to my senses. Admittedly, that was a while ago; but I've read several different sporkings of the series since (including Das Mervin's), and I'd say I know a fair amount. (I also know where to find a Twilight wiki, and can search the sporkings for references if necessary). As to agents, I definitely have at least one (technically DMS, but she gets the odd temporary transfer) who would admit to reading the sporkings, if perhaps not the books; my DIC team...yeah, I think I can picture one or the other of them checking out some part of it. I'd have to give a little more thought to who would work best, but I'm sure it'll work for at least one of my agents or agent pairs.
Add in that I have some large pieces of free time on my hands, and I'd say we're set (assuming you want to work with me to begin with). Also, the fic kills Charlie? That's making me kind of mad. Charlie...okay, Charlie's character gets mucked up, but he has a lot of awesome moments. Crowd favorite, of sorts. So. Mad. I'm getting there.
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Need two things from ya first. by
on 2015-06-10 22:43:00 UTC
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First,
your soulyour e-mail, not 100% sure I have it.
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Can't do anything about the stuff in the strikethrough-- by
on 2015-06-10 23:06:00 UTC
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--the Company Store owns the first (or thinks it does, anyway), and the second's already promised to me. But my email is dawnfire360 (at) gmail (dot) com, and my agents...well, I assume you mean the ones I mentioned, which makes them:
Dawn McKenna (DMS, Freelance)
and
Edgar Sullivan (DIC)
Agen_t (DIC, Edgar's partner. Four underscores)
All of them are on the wiki, and I don't currently think I have other--oh. Ohhhh.
I have other DIC agents, namely Kozar and the Reader. Kozar wouldn't have read the sporkings, though (the books...I don't even know, maybe he'd read them to better know his enemy?) and the Reader wouldn't have bothered. Dawn is most likely the best bet, though Kozar could be tossed in as well--it would make some sense, as Dawn knows the sporkings, Kozar could know the books, and they used to be partners, which would make things very interesting. Added to that...Kozar's a Klingon. Sending him on a Twilight mission is sounding funnier to me with every moment I spend thinking about it.
Okay, then. I'd like to put forth Dawn and Kozar as my agents for this. Edgar and Agent could do in a pinch (or Kozar with Agent, perhaps), but Agent is probably the one more likely to have read any of this.
And that's most likely pretty confusing to look at. That'll teach me to do the working things out part elsewhere.
Summary: potential agents for this are:
Dawn and/or Kozar
Agen___t (with or without Edgar)
I take it you'll be using Valon and Kala? We can decide which of my agents would work based on which of them would work better/more funnily/more interestingly with your agents. That's probably the best way to continue, now that I've narrowed it down to who would even know the canon.
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Yup, the RC 211 team. by
on 2015-06-10 23:18:00 UTC
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I've kinda abandoned my DMS team, eheheh.
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Fantastic. (nm) by
on 2015-06-10 23:22:00 UTC
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Or I can invite after Real Life stops interfering... (nm) by
on 2015-06-10 23:44:00 UTC
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No worries. (nm) by
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Sent! (nm) by
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Clarification. by
on 2015-06-10 19:06:00 UTC
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See, I've already worked with both Iximaz and SkarmorySilver. No offense intended toward either of them, but I'd like variety in my cowritten missions.
So far, I seem to be at my best when I'm working with others. I do plan on doing solo missions as well– After all, I've got Plans for my agents. But I want to work at my best ability, and that seems to be as a cowrite partner. -
I'm not yet qualified to take Missions by
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but I can be of help in terms of lore. I may not enjoy Twilight immensely, but it had potential to be something better if not for the gushy overflowing romance and the ugh... sparkling...
Anyway, you know my mail so if you need something explained - lemme know. -
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on 2015-06-10 22:29:00 UTC
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...you don't actually need to have Permission for a cowrite. So long as one writer has Permission, it's fine.
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Hmmm... by
on 2015-06-10 18:49:00 UTC
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I have a decent amount of knowledge of all four Twilight books, courtesy of my mom and her audio book CDS back in the day. Obviously this would have to involve either a DIC team or a Floaters one, but among my teams it's my DMS one that's currently in rotation.
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Technically I qualify... by
on 2015-06-10 18:19:00 UTC
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Look, I was in high school. Everybody else was reading them. I thought they were kind of stupid at the time...
Excuses aside, though, I don't really have any characters who would be qualified to help out. Aaron barely knows any canon outside of his own, and Natasha operates under the assumption that all vampires work exactly like Nasuverse ones. I do have plans for the agents who recruited Natasha, but I think I should actually write a mission with the characters I got approved first.
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Hey, Potterheads! Have you seen this? by
on 2015-06-10 19:10:00 UTC
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As has long been suspected, there is, in fact, an American wizarding school.
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Well played, Your Majesty, well played. by
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That gives us only three more unknown wizarding schools left. Since Pottermore confirmed there are 11 schools in the world, we have:
1. Hogwarts (British Isles)
2. Beauxbatons (France and (?) central-western Europe: Belgium, Holland, etc.)
3. Durmstrang (Northern Europe)
4. Mahoutokoro (Japan and the isles around it (?))
5. Koldovstoretz (Russia and Eastern Europe (?))
6. Uagadou School of Magic (Africa)
7. Unnamed school in Brazil (Bill's pen-pal attended it)
8. The American school revealed now.
We can officially cross out the Salem Witches' Institute, or brand it as a second-class school (something akin to Wizarding Academy of Dramatic Arts).
So - three more. Any ideas? I personally think Asia Minor woud have one - somewhere around Iraq, where the original city of Babylon was once raised... as for other two, I'd say Australia - maybe somewhere close to the Ayers Rock? - and a total wild guess, North or South Pole. -
What about one on Hati? by
on 2015-06-12 18:43:00 UTC
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Or somewhere nearby. It's plausible, what with the voodoo myths.
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Well depending where the US one is by
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There might not need to be one. The idea of Voodoo is deeply ingrained in Louisiana Culture, that theoretically it could service the Caribbean, because from a population stand point does the Caribbean have enough to support its own school?
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WowÂ… That's a lot of schools... by
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But hey… THERE'S ONE IN AMERICA! WHOOPIE! HOORAY! *laughs hysterically* Even with the fact it's fantasy, at least in HP canon it's there! Sorry, I just got very excited, so...
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Other Suggestions by
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I like the idea of there being one around Babylon. Egypt would be my other guess for one in the area. There are already a lot in Europe, but I wouldn't be surprised by a Grecian one, either.
Perhaps one in India or China (or both)? Japan isn't very big, so I doubt a school there could support all of Asia. I'd lean India more than China.
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Well, the one in Japan is probably bigger on the inside. (nm) by
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I was thinking about one in Rome or Greece by
on 2015-06-10 20:22:00 UTC
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Where all the people from the Mediterranian basin would gather - that would include Egypt and Lybia, as well.
Although, in my own headcanon (*boom!*) I imagine that, aside from the Big 11, there are lesser schools, with a certain field of study - i.e. in Mexico, where they research Meso-American culture or an Alchemy Institute in Poland (we have a discoverer of oxygen, Michael Sendivogius, on our side! :D) -
Not so sure you can cross of Salem by
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Two American Schools, actually in a way make sense. You can look at it this way, Witches and Wizards reflect a small percentage of the population at large, so it seems reasonable to infer that a larger concentration of population would mean a corresponding larger wizard population. So look at the US, as of 2014 3rd Largest Country by Population and 4th Largest by Area. It seems reasonable to infer that they would have a larger population of Wizards and Witches. So I would suggest that Salem is still viable.
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Although it would make sense... by
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This tweet confirms it being only a joke.
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Fair Enough by
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Still does not mean that there is not a second US School. But upon seeing information I previously did not have, I still think China and India make a lot of sense and I do think that somewhere in the former Persian and Babylonian Empires does make sense, though maybe in Mesopotamia. How about the Gozer School of Magic? Founded by Gozer the Gozerian in 6000 B.C.E. But that leaves one question to that...
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MYTHBUSTERS! (nm) by
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North Pole seems more likely. by
on 2015-06-10 19:31:00 UTC
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Since the South Pole is, you know, devoid of human life save for scientists.
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And maybe that's because the wizards are there! by
on 2015-06-10 19:33:00 UTC
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Originally, I thought about Spain, but that would give us too many European schools. Now though, I'm thinking about Alexandria, Egypt. The library there was pretty darn famous.
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I think there should be several. by
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In a collegiate setup called the League of the Latin Four.
Think about that for a minute.
Then hurt.