After marathoning Peaky Blinders this weekend I was wondering do any of you guys watch the show? I absolutely love it, but I'll love nearly anything if it is a show about criminal activities or a show that is set in history (which peaky blinders is both).
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Peaky Blinders by
on 2015-02-01 21:30:00 UTC
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5th Anniversary by
on 2015-02-02 00:42:00 UTC
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So today is the 5th anniversary of my joining the PPC. throws confetti
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Yaaay! by
on 2015-02-02 17:53:00 UTC
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*bells* I haven't heard from you in so long! What's new and exciting in your life?
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*Blows noisemaker* by
on 2015-02-02 05:36:00 UTC
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Huzzah!
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Congrats! I'm so glad you've been a part of the community! (nm) by
on 2015-02-02 04:43:00 UTC
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Congratulations!! by
on 2015-02-02 04:36:00 UTC
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Here, have a fully functional replica of the Eye of Agamotto!
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Congradulations! (nm) by
on 2015-02-02 02:24:00 UTC
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Whoa, congrats! by
on 2015-02-02 01:13:00 UTC
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Have a ghostly kitten! I... may have given one of those already. Hm.
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*throws cakefetti* by
on 2015-02-02 00:51:00 UTC
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Hey hey, congratulations! Take this plate of freshly-made SPaGhetti, and since I wasn't around to give you a welcome present, take this chirping pocket elephant! Feel free to remove the urple bow on its tail if you so desire.
*offers hugs*
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Super Bowl Time! by
on 2015-02-02 02:23:00 UTC
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As I type, we have started the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. Despite living in Alaska, I hate Seattle with a passion, so the Patriots are disappointing me so far. Anybody else watching? Want to spend a few moments geeking out over sports for a while?
Speaking about geeking out: PONIES WERE IN A SUPERBOWL COMMERCIAL! NATIONAL BROADCAST PONIES!!! AHHHH!!!! It was for the post-Superbowl rally, whatever that is. Still! Ponies were considered popular enough to include along Britney Spears, Lego Movie, and many others! This is going to make EQD EXPLODE.
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Meh, not exactly interested in either. by
on 2015-02-02 14:22:00 UTC
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Since I live on the other side of the pond I even had to Google the Super Bowl to see of which sport it's an event.
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Of course they aren't! by
on 2015-02-02 15:58:00 UTC
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Rugby doesn't use body armour. ;)
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That just makes it more hardcore. :P (nm) by
on 2015-02-02 16:34:00 UTC
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Ah, the American Way (TM): by
on 2015-02-02 16:41:00 UTC
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Truth, justice, and Ma's assault rifle.
I was about to ask if there's a version of cricket which attempts to make it look manlier by slapping ridiculous armour plating on the players, and then I remembered what baseball catchers wear. Um... has America come up with a full-plate-armour version of tennis yet? Or is that next year's project?
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Well... Sorta. by
on 2015-02-02 17:01:00 UTC
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I mean, we don't exactly give tennis players much armor, but we are making developments in more armored players.
What I'm saying is, we have made tremendous advancements in tennis playing tanks:
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Well... by
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In Team Fortress we have this:
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on 2015-02-03 20:03:00 UTC
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DAT INTERCEPTION! by
on 2015-02-02 03:24:00 UTC
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Oh man, that has to hurt for Seattle. Serves them right, the jerks. Man, that was an ending for the ages!
Easily, my second favorite Superbowl. Ponies, the Hawks being embarrassed, and the most beautiful interception of all time. This is one for the history books.
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...Seriously? by
on 2015-02-02 17:26:00 UTC
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The most watched event in television, and NONE of you care? Yall just a bunch of nerds. :p
In all seriousness though, I knew you guys probably did not care. I just wanted to share a little of what I was doing, and see if anyone else was interested in the game.
And now, my new favorite reaction gif:
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I swear I was paying attention! by
on 2015-02-02 18:14:00 UTC
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I really liked the part where the Green Bay Packers scored a home run and tied the game 15-love. >D
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My favorite part was when the Giants threw a grand slam into the basket for a bogey.
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Who cares about sports when you have PONIES? by
on 2015-02-02 02:56:00 UTC
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That was literally the highlight of the evening for me and my brother. The best part was that they were wearing Indianapolis Colts gear. Guess who lives in Indiana?!
Yeah, yeah, I know it was because colts/ponies yadda yadda. I don't care. :D
I'm not a big sports fan; I only watch for the commercials and I must say they've been pretty disappointing so far. That Sprint one with the shrieking goats was funny, at least.
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Wait, Indiana? by
on 2015-02-02 15:00:00 UTC
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I was born in Evansville!
Granted, by this point I've Been (mostly) Everywhere™, and I'm currently in Ohio with prospects of moving to Arizona.
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Yay for ponies! by
on 2015-02-02 02:59:00 UTC
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Also, have you guys heard about Chris Pratt and Chris Evans' charity bet? Gods, I love those guys.
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And speaking of Chris Pratt... by
on 2015-02-02 05:25:00 UTC
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...let the uprising of scientifically inaccurate prehistoric life BEGIN!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mvWuky1g0g
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Seen it now! by
on 2015-02-03 09:23:00 UTC
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And other than 'eee so cool (if scientifically inaccurate)', I have two thoughts:
1/ Raptor trainers. Yesssss.
2/ So... what makes the New Dinosaur so much scarier than the old ones? That it keeps trying to kill you, just like T. rex and the now-inaccurate Spinosaurus? That it's apparently intelligent, just like theraptorsdeinonychosaursManiraptorans - heck, didn't the spinosaur track Grant and company across half an island, and the tyrannosaurs in II the same? That it's big, again like T. rex and Spinosaurus? That it's all three?
I'unno, maybe it, like, breathes fire, or is immune to electric fences, or something. But I honestly don't know why they (the filmmakers or the park) wanted a new dinosaur when there's no real... advantage.
(Of course, the scariest JP dinosaur has to be Carnotaurus from the Lost World novel. Ambush predator with the ability to camouflage itself against anything, up to and including a chain link fence? Yeah, I'd run from that.)
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You know, my brother has a theory about that. by
on 2015-02-02 08:10:00 UTC
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Why the dinosaurs are scientifically inaccurate. It is because the dino DNA was mixed with frog DNA. One side-effect was the ability for dinosaurs to change genders, but another was the loss of feathers. It was not obvious to the scientists at first, because at the time of the first Jurassic Park, they looked exactly as the scientists thought they should look. Only later, after the study of more fossils, did they realize that the dinosaurs were more then a little off. By that time, however, the frog process had been refined and perfected, so it was not worth the energy to try and mix something else, such as birds, to give them feathers.
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Now that's actually a decent theory. by
on 2015-02-02 09:01:00 UTC
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It draws on pre-existing aspects of the canon - in contrast to the 'oh, they just made them like that because they wanted to', which comes out of nowhere. And mixing warm-blooded proto-bird with cold-blooded amphibian would create some pretty strange interactions - assuming you could get it to work in the first place.
Which is where I recall the discussion in the book of The Lost World about how the scene with the Hatchery in the first film was total showmanship - most eggs failed to hatch, or produced horrible mutants which had to be put down. Which, uh, yeah, they would.
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Permission Giver Election: Results! by
on 2015-02-02 10:19:00 UTC
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Kind friends and companions, come join me in rhyme
Come lift up your voices in chorus with mine
Come lift up your voices, all grief to refrain
For we may or might never all meet here again
Here's a health to the company and one to my lass
Let us drink and be merry all out of one glass
Let us drink and be merry, all grief to refrain
For we may or might never all meet here again
It's been a tense Permission Giver election. A total of 38 PPCers cast their votes; to put that in context, only 65 people posted to the Board last month total, and a fair few of those only made one or two posts.
And the voting was tight, all the way through. There was always the chance that one of our three candidates could pull out a lead - at various times, each of them was ahead - or fall behind. So how did they do?
Our ship lies at harbour, she's ready to dock
I hope she's safe landed without any shock
If ever we should meet again by land or by sea
I will always remember your kindness to me
The lines are closed, the votes have been counted and verified, and I can now revealthat this Big Brother parody has gone too far alreadythe results. In alphabetical order:
Desdendelle: 29
Iximaz: 29
PoorCynic: 30
Yes, despite my transparent attempts to build tension, the votes stayed close all the way through. And that means it is with great pleasure I can hand out Permission Giver Hats to Desdendelle, Iximax, and PoorCynic. Congratulations, guys - and remember, though the work may be hard, if you stick with it, one day you too may... uh... end up with a bunch of new PPCers thinking you're the most ancient thing since sliced bread. Motivation! ^_^
My footsteps may falter, my wit might fail
My course may be challenged by the worst of the gale
Ere fortune shall prove to be friend or be foe
You will always be with me wherever I go
And of course there was a fourth candidate: Kaitlyn, the Oldest Boarder. This was the genuinely tense part of the election for me: she swung back and forward between 'yes' and 'no' the whole way. And the final results?
Yes: 15 (at least)
No: 12 (at most)
So with the greatest pleasure, I hand out a fourth PG hat, with accompanying congratulations, to Kaitlyn. In accordance with the discussion, she's probably going straight to 'Permission Giver Emeritus' status - so you may not see her handing out Permission any time soon, depending on how the discussion goes.
So there we are. Four new Permission Givers, ladies, gentlemen and starfish. Can we get three cheers?
Here's a health to the company and one to my lass
Let us drink and be merry all out of one glass
Let us drink and be merry, all grief to refrain
For we may or might never all meet here again
[To keep the main thread for what it should be - congratulations to our new PGs - I'll be creating sub-threads for the discussion of what PG Emeritus status should consist of, and for all the Protectorate of Plort/Barons stuff. Try to keep those confined where they belong, please]
[If you like Celtic folk-songs of the kind used to provide the soundtrack to this post, I highly recommend Heather Dale's recent album 'My Celtic Heart', which is where I learnt this one. Her store has samples for all her songs, and you should also be able to find her free album 'Perpetual Gift', if you want to get a proper feel for her style]
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Congrats everyone! (nm)(nm) (nm)(nm) by
on 2015-02-04 05:22:00 UTC
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Have a large bag of NM&Ms, guys!
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Wouldn't these be NM&NM&NM&NMs? (nm) by
on 2015-02-04 20:31:00 UTC
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More NM&NMs for everybody! -noms- (nm) by
on 2015-02-04 21:03:00 UTC
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Shouldn't people offering NM&NMs actually make some? :) (nm) (nm by
on 2015-02-05 03:10:00 UTC
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If you insist. (nm) (nm) (nm) (nm) by
on 2015-02-05 20:16:00 UTC
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Lemme help with that! (nm) (nm) by
on 2015-02-05 03:13:00 UTC
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Yeah! by
on 2015-02-03 19:02:00 UTC
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Congratulations to Iximaz, Desdendelle and PoorCynic.
And congratulations to Kaitlyn, too. Being the first voter, I wondered whether you would appreciate to be made a PG with one sure "Yes" and nobody bothering to object, so I tried to move the bar a bit up. I'm still not sure how this emeritus thing will work in practice, but I'm glad that I've been outvoted.
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Congratulations! by
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I saw the call for election, but did not vote since I haven't been a regular poster for years and I am against blind voting. :) I am sure all the newly elected permission givers will do a great job. :)
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Congratulations to all! by
on 2015-02-03 03:29:00 UTC
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And welcome to Duty. Use the Hat and its formidable powers For Great Justice!
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What you say !! by
on 2015-02-03 07:33:00 UTC
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All your board are belong to us. You are on the way to permission.
Hahahaha...
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Now I really should build up my character. by
on 2015-02-03 02:07:00 UTC
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I intend to release it a free-to-use, but I wonder if the rules remain the same.
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Huzzah! (nm) by
on 2015-02-02 17:54:00 UTC
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Well, darn it. by
on 2015-02-02 11:14:00 UTC
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I don't know how my mini-Boarder got the Hat instead of me, but if that is your decision, I shall stand by it and pffffft >D
Sorry, couldn't keep a straight face. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go faint.
Also, is this the part where the new PGs give speeches? *clears throat* Friends, Boarders, fellow Protectors, lend me your sporks-
Oh, it's not? Never mind then.
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[Facepalm] Sorry. by
on 2015-02-02 11:58:00 UTC
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If it helps, the first time I typed it, I tabulated the votes for another mini, iximaz, as well. So at least you got one mention!
{... I don't think that helps, actually}
No, you're probably right.
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on 2015-02-02 12:05:00 UTC
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Permission Giver Emeritus discussion. by
on 2015-02-02 10:21:00 UTC
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It's been suggested several times during the PG election that we ought to have some kind of 'PG Emeritus' status - something that says someone is still a Permission Giver, but isn't currently entitled to give Permission. This is the sub-thread to discuss exactly how that should work. I'm hoping for a consensus, not a vote, so let's aim for that.
The questions, as I see them, are basically two: how does PG Emeritus status get activated, and how does it get removed?
Options I can think of for flipping to Emeritus:
-Don't post or visit the IRC at all for a given period of time.
-Don't meet a minimum level of activity for a given period.
-Be inactive, and have been made a PG a certain amount of time ago.
-Be inactive, and have been made a PG before a certain date.
My thought is that we should probably be looking at 'zero activity' as the benchmark; Techno-Dann, VixenMage and Araeph would all probably fail to meet any kind of 'minimum activity' line, but I can't imagine anyone wants to deactivate them. So how long do you have to be 'gone' for? Personally I'd suggest a year, solely because it's a nice round number.
The other option is to make it so that 'old PGs' are deactivated, even if they pop in occasionally. In that case, I'd probably set the benchmark at the introduction of Permission 3.0 - the 'writing samples from the table' model. If you haven't been active since then, you probably won't know how to do it, and you giving Permission will just confuse things.
(Either way, note that Kaitlyn will drop straight to Emeritus status; she's fine with that, and at least two of her 'no' votes have said they'd accept that option)
(Other note: I think it would be extraordinarily rude to 'deactivate' any of the first five PGs: Jay, Acacia, Miss Cam, GreyLadyBast, or Thalia Weaver. I don't think there's going to be any argument for the Originals, but feel free to debate the other three if you want)
Options I can think of for returning to Active:
-Post at all.
-Make a certain number of posts.
-Be active (either posting at all, or at a certain activity level) for a given period.
-Specifically request activation.
My preference would probably be 'active for a given period'. I'd define active as something like 5-10 posts a month - which, according to my records, is what PoorCynic is averaging, and we just voted him in - and say you have to meet it for three months. That's midway between the line for requesting Permission, and the arbitrary benchmark I imposed this time for becoming a Permission Giver.
So: discussion open. I don't think this needs to be a PGs-only decision, though I would like all our active PGs to chime in if they're interested.
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Given the general lack of interest/concern... by
on 2015-02-09 13:44:00 UTC
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... I'm inclined to go with a less formal way of handling this. I'll work up an 'FAQ for Returnbies', which will include something like this:
Q. Can I give out [[Permission]]?
A. Were you ever a Permission Giver? If not, we're afraid not! If you were, it'd be a good idea to familiarise yourself with the current system - it might have changed quite a bit since you were last here. It's also recommended that you take an active role in the community for a while before you start granting Permission - that way you know who everyone is, and everyone knows you.
That gets the gist of 'Emeritus' across, without formalising it into a title (and leading to Hieronymus' dilemma of who updated the Wiki). Thoughts?
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Works for me, too. (nm) by
on 2015-02-10 18:34:00 UTC
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No objection (nm) by
on 2015-02-10 10:33:00 UTC
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That works for me. (nm) by
on 2015-02-09 23:38:00 UTC
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LetÂ’s see whether I get this right by
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Looking on the Wiki’s list of Permission Givers, the First Five (Jay and Acacia, and GreyLadyBast, Miss Cam and Thalia Weaver) cannot be affected by community decisions. Should they have “permanent” appended to their names?
Everybody else who is not also currently a voting member of Plort’s Baronical Council (BeautyID, Bjam, Doc Filth, DML, JulyFlame, Kaitlyn, Laburnum, Leto Haven, NenyaQuende, Rohirric Monkey, Sedri, Tough Cookie, Trojie and TZA), is by default considered to have been seen only very occasionally at best for a long time, and will get “inactive” appended to their names. Any objections? July?
Supposing that “zero activity” for at least one year will be the consensus, at any time (or only at a specific occasion, like the annual Baronial Council?), somebody suspecting that a PG may have left without notice may ask whether PG Insert-Name-Here has been seen posting on the Board, chatting in the IRC or editing the Wiki during the last year. If nobody speaks up within a reasonable span of time, somebody may then edit the Wiki to append “inactive” to PG Insert-Name-Here. (This will probably be Makari’s fate in the near future, leaving us with ten active Permission Givers.)
But I don’t see how automatic reactivation after three months of sufficient activity should work. The Wiki doesn’t edit itself.
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It's an interesting discussion... by
on 2015-02-03 05:31:00 UTC
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I'd like to think that our senior PGs are sharp enough people to not need rules to tell them to not give permission if they've been out of the loop for a while, though.
*shrugs at*
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1/ At least one wasn't. ^^ Several years back, TZA wandered back in and started handing out Permission.
2/ BeautyID specifically suggested that her PG powers should be revoked, andthreatened to wreck the entire Permission systemdiscussed why.
And yeah - I did forget about the IRC when talking about activity. In my head, I know you're always on there - it just didn't reach my fingers. Sorry! ^^
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Regarding PGs Emeriti by
on 2015-02-03 01:10:00 UTC
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I think the 'zero activity for a year' benchmark is a sound one. If a PG Emeritus returns and wants to have said status removed, they should demonstrate a reasonable level of activity on the board for at least a month. PGs are a major part of the community, and and such need to be involved with it.
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Dann is around the IRC pretty frequently, so he wouldn't fall away under "inactive", and I'm pretty sure I've seen VM there several times over the past ... while.
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Re: Permission Giver Emeritus discussion. by
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I like the ideas you set forth (inactive for at least a year is probably a good length of time) and if the PG has been inactive since before the new system was implemented, then it's probably safe to move them to Emeritus as well.
I was under the impression that VixenMage, Techno-Dann, and Araeph were chronic lurkers, so they'd be up to speed with the new system... Was I wrong on that? I have seen them pop in occasionally, and not just for the recent vote.
I also agree on the 'active for a given period' thing. Not really much else to say on that.
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on 2015-02-02 12:00:00 UTC
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The wait for Permission is 'around about a month'. Being a PG was 'been around for six months' this time, and at least one other time. 3 months sits in between them.
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Okay. by
on 2015-02-02 12:15:00 UTC
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In my defense, I literally just woke up and have to go to school. Of course I'm gonna be all groggy! ^^;
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Thoughts. by
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Well, by those rules I'd go straight to Emeritus... I know I post very rarely any more, though I lurk a lot. And I'm fine with that on a personal level.
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Oh, right... those were meant to be mutually exclusive. by
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As in, I listed various options to be considered, with the intent of a decision between them. So 'we could go with this... or this... or this'.
My preference is either the 'zero activity for x amount of time' - which none of our 'chronic lurker PGs' meet - or 'zero activity since the Permission system was last changed' - which again, none of you meet. My preference for reactivation is 'automatic when you've been active for 3 months'. I think the idea of specifically requesting reactivation is a terrible one, personally, but I was trying to outline all the options.
I should've made all that clearer, so I apologise for that.
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That makes more sense. by
on 2015-02-02 20:30:00 UTC
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Seems workable to me - I think we are of one mind re: the reactivation request.
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The Baronial Council of Plort by
on 2015-02-02 10:20:00 UTC
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Barons, Knights, and Civilians of the Union of Plort, I beg your indulgence for a few small matters of consequence before we commence our celebration of the founding of Castle Harpwire.
First, due to her continued absence from these shores, the barony of Makari is being deactivated, and divided between Barony Dann and Barony VixenMage. As ever, should Baron Makari return, she will be entitled to reclaim her barony from those who now watch over it. [Because I don't want to straight-up erase her, but equally, my maps will get messy if I just keep inactive PGs on there indefinitely.]
Secondly, the Refuge of Ozerbord would like to confirm the wording of our constitution: that the office of Protector in Ozerbord rests on the person of Baron Huinesoron, not on his position as the sole baron in Ozerbord. While military administration is divided along baronial lines, the civilian government of Ozerbord is solely the province of Baron Huinesoron. [Basically because I'm the only person with admin powers over the Other Board, which in accordance with the 'reflection of reality' nature of Plort, means I must be the head of government. ^^]
Thirdly, Baron Huinesoron has paid out of his own pocket to fund the construction of roads between every current baronial seat and its nearest population centre; by this measure it is hoped that the travel of our barons to the Baronial Council this summer will be significantly eased. Regretfully, however, the isolated and forested position of Tegnoh has meant that it is unable to be connected. [That's Baronies Araeph, Huinesoron, and Cassie, plus any rural castles that crop up in the next post; basically this is to make my maps make more sense.]
Fourthly, it gives me great pleasure to announce the creation of four new baronies. The Baronial Council has discussed the candidates extensively, and surveyed the feelings of the populace, and we are pleased to confer the rights, privileges, and duties of a Baron of Plort upon:
Lady Iximaz, the Far-Travelled
Lady Kaitlyn, the Knight Who Goes ^^
Sir PC, the Poor Cynick
Thanasius Ampelius, the Warrior Monk
In accordance with the Edict of Bast, the domains of these barons will be decided based on their lands of residence. I therefore call upon them to declare before this company which of the nations of Konti-Nyuum they will take under their protection, that their borders may be set and confirmed.
[Okay, basically, please name one or more of the four nations, based on your interests in the PPC. If you spend a lot of time in the chat, that's Iric; if you're on the Wiki a lot, that's Wechi; if you get into a lot of RPs, that's Ozerbord, and if you're on the Board, that's, uh, Borrd. You can choose multiple, up to three - but you can't hold land in both Iric and Ozerbord, since they don't border each other. One or two countries is best. Any special requests, such as coast towns, cities, or even specific areas of land, will be considered; basically I aim to leave everyone their castle, and keep borders to geographical features; beyond that, I'm willing to shift everything around]
[The map of Konti-Nyuum can be found here, if you need it.]
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"I got you something."
Kaitlyn (Lady of Ozerbord, Knight Who Goes ^_^, secret Duchess-in-Exile of El-Jheycom) looked up from her desk to see her husband holding a sheet of paper. "From the capital?" she asked. "New reports from the Marizu League?"
"Not exactly." Baron Huinesoron put on his best 'serious' face. "'Lady Kaitlyn-'"
"Don't I merit a 'sir'?" Kaitlyn asked. "I thought after all these years... never mind. So is this about the hospital?"
"Shh." Baron Huinesoron cleared his throat. "'Lady Kaitlyn: in recognition of your long service in the lands of Konti-Nyuum, and your honourable aquittal of the duties which you have assumed-'"
"Sweet Kanun, tell me they're not throwing a ball in my honour," Kaitlyn groaned. "Can you imagine how-?"
"'We, the Baronial Council of the Union of Plort,'" Huinesoron continued over her protests, "'do hereby confer upon you the rights, privileges, and duties of a Baron of Plort-'"
"What?!" Kaitlyn leapt to her feet. "Is this a joke? Because I'm telling you, it's not funny-"
"No joke," Huinesoron assured her. "I've got a map of your new domain, too. It runs from, let me see... from the banks of the Karaktar to the Larninkurv Mountains, and along the curve of the Lhawgin Heights."
Kaitlyn's eyes widened. "El-Jheycom," she breathed. "Huinesoron, how--?"
"The Edict of Bast lays a heavy emphasis on historical association," Huinesoron said. "The fact that you're currently living in another baron's castle means your present residence can't be considered, so..."
Kaitlyn let out a sound that could best be described as a 'squee', and threw herself into her husband's arms. "I don't know how you managed this," she said, "but thank you, thank you, thank you."
"It's not all good news," Huinesoron told her, holding her close. "The Baronial Council was split on the issue of your appointment, so we had to make a few... compromises. Specifically, since you're not actually living in your-- in Barony Kaitlyn, you've been created a 'non-administrative baron'."
Kaitlyn leant back and quirked an eyebrow at him. "Which means?"
"You don't have a vote in the Baronial Council, or the Council of Borrd," Huinesoron said. "You have full baronial powers, but nothing above that."
"... which means we won't be declaring independence any time soon," Kaitlyn concluded. "A clever move. But just give us time. El-Jheycom's sun will rise again."
"I'm sure it will," Huinesoron said. "And you, Baron Kaitlyn, will be there to see it."
Here's a health to the dear lass that I love so well
Her style and her beauty, sure none can excel
There's a smile upon her countenance as she sits upon my knee
There is no-one in this wide world as happy as me
Here's a health to the company and one to my lass
Let us drink and be merry all out of one glass
Let us drink and be merry, all grief to refrain
For we may or might never all meet here again
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Insecurity in Barony Iximaz by
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Keep De'endee's construction was nearly complete, thanks to the extensive use of magic. Lady Iximaz smiled to herself as she looked around the recently-built great hall, though the smile quickly disappeared when she remembered the veritable mountain of paperwork awaiting her.
The newly-appointed Baroness rubbed her temples, grudgingly deciding it would be best to not delay in answering the other Barons' missives. Newness to the position aside, she was also the youngest Baron now serving on the Council, and she couldn't give anyone a reason to doubt her ability.
She made her way back to her chambers, her boots falling heavily on the flagstones. Inside, her desk was nearly hidden beneath all the scrolls; it looked like several more letters had been delivered during the day. She groaned and reached for the scroll bearing the mark of Baron Huinesoron.
After reading through it, Iximaz groaned again and let her head fall on the desk, accidentally crushing several scrolls.
"Well, this is just perfect," she muttered, balling up the letter and throwing it over her shoulder. "Of all the bad timing— ugh!" She reache into her desk and pulled out a fresh piece of parchment, failing to notice that it was stuck to the letter from Knight Jumper. Iximaz penned a brief letter to Baron Huinesoron expressing her regrets, but she had already announced her intentions to throw a banquet of her own in honor of he knights who were moving to her barony.
"And what a foolish decision that was," she said aloud, scratching her signature at the bottom of the letter and blowing on the ink. She seemed to be talking to herself a lot as of late.
It was true, though. She was already in far over her head than she'd anticipated, learning the niceties of running a barony such as setting and collecting taxes, settling trade agreements, forming tentative relationships with the other barons— and then she'd gone and decided to throw a banquet, of all things!
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A visit from Baron Huinesoron by
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Construction of the Arpying Road was still ongoing as Baron Huinesoron rode along it. Fortunately, the clifftops of Barony Iximaz were grassy and level, so even the stretch between the road reaching out from Critta-Kalthin and the one rising to meet it from De'endee was an easy journey. As Keep De'endee came into sight, the baron turned to his companion.
"Impressive," he said, gesturing at the castle. "I wouldn't have thought she could raise a castle so quickly."
"The Lady Iximaz has had a lot of help," Freckles pointed out. "Sandra tells me the Knight Ion has joined her barony - at this rate, Critta-Kalthin will be larger than Ozerbord before the year is out."
"Not that that's saying much," Baron Huinesoron chuckled. "Our little capital isn't terribly impressive, is it?"
"Ah - no, my lord," Freckles agreed. "But still..."
"But still." Huinesoron looked at Keep De'endee again. "Well. With all these new vassals and allys, she should be eager to accept my proposal."
The two rode along in silence for a few minutes. Then Freckles tilted her head. "Uh, my lord..."
"You know that's not how I meant it," Huinesoron said. "Stop smirking."
"Yes, my lord."
"And don't you dare tell my wife."
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The pounding on the door of De'endee would have been loud enough to wake the dead, except that Lady Iximaz would already have had them up and about helping to set up her barony. When the door was opened, it revealed Baron Huinesoron, decked out in rough travelling clothes.
The baron stepped into De'endee and looked around thoughtfully. "Impressive acoustics," he remarked, his voice echoing back from the far side of the Great Hall. "But I am not here to comment on the architecture. Please conduct me to Lady Iximaz."
Baron Huinesoron's proposal, once he laid it out for the resident baron, was simple. Ozerbord had need of sand, he explained - the fine sand that was found on the beaches around Critta-Kalthin. They would be willing to pay well for it - in currency, in food, in trade agreements, or in the still-secret end product of Barony Huinesoron's planned new industry. But, given the currently free-falling state of Barony Huinesoron's economy, he would need it soon. As in, 'how soon can you start digging?'.
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[Trade agreements! ... stars, have I just turned Plort into The Phantom Menace? 'Wars? Pfeh. Magic? Blah. What this setting really needs is POLITICS AND NEGOTIATIONS.']
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Lady Iximaz pondered the Baron's proposal. by
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What on Earth could he want sand for? Did he intend to produce glass? Use it in construction?
"Well, my lo- er, Baron," she said, mentally chastising herself for the slip, "if it is sand you wish to trade for, I see no objections."
She requested that, in exchange for her barony's sand, the trade restrictions currently in place would be lessened. After all, she reasoned, once Huinesoron's final product was revealed, it would likely be possible for her own craftsmen to replicate it; Baron Huinesoron had said nothing about the final product being under his sole control.
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A civilian requests audience to Lady Iximaz. by
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Dark Civilian Aakmal has just arrived at the outskirts of Keep De'endee with his retinue, caravans, supplies including living livestock, and gold, meaning to supply for a feast and finally paying taxes to one liege. Having two Barons squabbling over his town's loyalty is a landmine; one misstep and Critta' will burn to ash. And not paying any taxes to both lieges causes some disastrous losses, as his traders' boats has been confiscated by one liege or another.
But now that the people of Kalthin has joined his town, and recent news that Lady Iximaz is offered Baronship and has taken Critta'-Kalthin as one of his vassal, is something to be celebrated. His entourage closes in to the keep, but stops at arrow's shot. An orc swings the banner left and right to catch attention.
"Datu, there isn't a sound. Looks like the keep's empty." The orc says to Aakmal.
"Impossible, even during noon there should be some scouts..."
From the east, suddenly a group of riders gallops their horses to Aakmal's entourage. A short, stout man leads the riders, and his horse trops forward a few steps after the other riders has stopped a few feet back.
"Greetings, who is Dark Civilian Aakmal? I am the herald of Lady Iximaz, and I shall escort him to the gates."
"I am Dark Civilian Aakmal, but I do not know Her Ladyship is expecting me."
"She hasn't yet, but I will send one man to notify her." He signals one rider, and he nods. Soon the horse is already galloping, carrying its rider to De'endee.
After half an hour, Dark Civilian Aakmal is brought through the front gates. The castle is busy with workers working their materials and magicians forming spells unto the structures. His entourage unloads the baggage into middle of the ward. A few men sets up tents to shield the supplies and the retinue and their leader from the sun. Now Aakmal sits crosslegged on the ground, waiting for the invitation to enter the hall. -
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At long last, a harried figure exited the keep and hurried to greet the Dark Civilian.
Lady Iximaz was far from looking the part of a Baron, with rumpled clothes and shadows under her eyes, and she spoke with the voice of one still getting used ti their newfound authority.
"Greetings, Aakmal," she said. "Thank you for coming on such short notice; I hope your journey was easy." She brushed a strand of hair from her eyes. "The kitchens were completed just yesterday, and their facilities will be made fully available to you. Darkotas is in charge of overseeing the banquet preparations in my stead. Come, I will introduce you to him." -
Banquet Preparations by
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Darkotas stood in the courtyard, planning out meticulous details of seating and decoration. The young man motioned to a group of men, watching as they lifted an enormous table to carry it to a predetermined area. With a nod, he dismissed the workers and made a note on the placement. Hearing his name called out, he turned to see Lady Iximaz and a stranger approaching. He cleared his throat and stepped forward to address the pair.
"Hello, my Lady! Are the guests arriving so soon? We are still preparing, but I suppose I could find a place to entertain them in the meantime..."
He turned to face the stranger. "Greetings, sir. I am Darkotas, Assistant to the Baroness and prospective Knight-in-training. Is there anything you require?"
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Wherw to store the supplies? by
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"Greetings, Darkatos. I am Dark Civilian Aakmal, just call ke Aakmal. First off, may we be pointed to the storeroom for foodstuffs and the pens for livestock? I have brought more supplies for the feast. Secondly, I'd like to offer my workers to help you prepare for the feast. Thirdly, perhaps some biscuits and tea for us after loading the supplies into the storage?"
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Directions by
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"Welcome, Aakmal. The storeroom is just down the hallway on your left; it should be the third door on the right. The pens are not yet complete, but we have a temporary enclosure on the west side. I appreciate the aid as well; at the moment, my men are constructing the barracks and could use a few more hands. Alternatively, our chefs could use assistance if your men are so inclined. If you take a seat, I will prepare your refreshments momentarily."
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Aakmal orders his officers around. by
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Aakmal points his thumb to a tall, dark man. "Saiful, get back to our supplies and your company guard the gold. I intend to offer it formally to Lady Iximaz in a ceremony. Await my further orders." Saiful immediately jogs away.
Then he points to a shorter man wearing Norse clothing. "David, you are in charge of supplies, bring them to the storeroom. Dasgiz's company are to help you." David nods and leaves.
Now Aakmal orders the orc wearing a broad-brimmed hat. "Tulgash, you are in charge of livestock, bring them to the enclosure. Ensure the animals are well-fed and watered." Tulgash tips his hat, and walks swiftly away.
"Now, Darkotas, Lady Iximaz. According to the customs of the land where I came from, when a lord throws a feast, everyone including the workers and slaves are automatically invited. Of course the nobles and guests of honour are seated further away from the rabbles. Thus I have brought 400 chickens, 50 cows, 200 goats, 400 quails, half a ton of spices, half a ton of onions, shallots, ginger, and garlic, half a ton of sugar, a quarter ton of salt, five tons of rice, five tons of wheat flour, three tons of firewood, a few tons of carrots, cabbages, brinjals, turnips, and long cabbages.
"Darkotas, according to the customs too, I am supposed to provide some meals to my labourers. So if you would kindly extend the tea and biscuits to my workers, with permission from Lady Iximaz," Aakmal pauses as he nods to her, "I would be most glad. However, if you can't, I understand."
"I will arrange for volunteers for your chefs and construction workers. They will begin work tomorrow, as we are still weary from the journey. Thus I also ask for permission to set up more tents."
"Lady Iximaz," now Dark Civilian Aakmal bows, "I would like to give you some of the gold I have brought as payment for the delayed tax that I could not pay, as Baron Huinesoron and Baron Neshomeh had quarreled over the jurisdiction of my town. I couldn't pay a Baron over the other, in fear of escalating the tension. But I would also like a ceremony to officiate our relationship, me as vassal and you as liege. So that no one may contest the overlordship of my town, if you would be so kind." -
A Shadow On The Keep by
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In the deep shadows and warm places of the new barony, the Scapegrace watched and wondered. There was work here, work for her people - the people of the road, the nameless and the nothing-bearers, the Lurking-Kind. She saw, and it was good.
The baronial castle of Lady Iximaz was shaping up to be a fine thing indeed, crouched atop a hillock like a fat toad waiting for the flies. And flies would come, and filth, and gold; a town would spring up around the castle to trade along the river, and the people would need things, and the nothing-bearers would be moved on, again. Unless, unless...
"Lady Iximaz. A good title, and earned." Scapegrace grinned, showing teeth that ought not to be shown in public where children might see. "I too will pay my taxes. Here." She fished in a pocket and produced a few coppers, flipping them into a chest. "My service is yours. The ones who wait and see are yours as well. I would curtsy, but my bones are aching of a winter's travel. Beggars an' health are swiftly parted."
She withdrew something else from her tattered parody of finery - a thin, steel thing, pitted with rust but still dangerous-looking, a burnt-orange line in the air, it seemed. "I've no blade to offer save this. No knight am I. No fine sword an' horse an' servants to make obsequies at me all day. Some fights, though, a good and noble knight," she almost spat the words, thought that might have been a rattling cough talking, "cannot fight, nor can gentle folk carry every day. 'Tis enough, though, oh yes... 'tis enough, in the proper place. For is that not the business of a fine and noble lady?"
There was a blur. A turnip was skewered, ripped from its sealed crate by the bony hag, who secreted it about her person along with the metal and a few of the more valuable looking splinters. "The knowin' of proper places." -
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((OOC: A design note)) by
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This is what I imagine Lady Iximaz's castle to look like at the moment. Only with less plants growing out of the walls. And probably more rain. =]
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[My version...] by
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[... looks like this:]
This
[Obviously the difference is for space reasons; the general 'circular towers/stone construction' theme is still there]
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[Darn you, hS!] by
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Now I'm going to waste the rest of today building my version in Minecraft. Thanks. :P
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Holy cow, that's the exact picture I used for inspiration! (nm) by
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[Sorry, I may have worded the last two sentences wrongly.] (nm) by
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[Whoops.] by
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[Aakmal's response was posted while I was typing - I should have addressed the group of strangers, not the singular. My mistake.]
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Dark Civilian Aakmal stands up as soon as she arrives. by
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[So, I have a few assumptions. First, the stoves are for firewood.]
[Second, Aakmal don't have any idea that Baron Huinesoron's there. Maybe you'll show me to him, and discuus frther about the sand business.]
[Third, while Aakmal has sent a letter confirming his loyalty to Lady Iximaz, there may need to be a ceremony to officalise it. We may discuss it while looking at the kitchen.]
"Very well, my lady." Aakmal turns to his followers, "Saiful, David, Tulgash! Come with me! Dasgiz, make sure evryone else behaves."
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Planning in Barony PC by
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The transformation had been a rapid one. In a few days, what had been a relatively open stretch of low, rolling hills near the Iron Highway had turned into a teeming sea of tents and carts. The entire area was alive with activity: soldiers training, children at play, merchants hawking their wares, cutpurses plying their trade, and grey-haired scholars giving lectures to whomever would listen. Had the buildings not been made of canvas, it might have passed for almost any other town in the protectorate.
Baron PC, the Poor Cynick, arched one eyebrow as he looked over the makeshift community from a nearby hill. It was both astonishing and gratifying, how the people had flocked out to the site where -- Mike and Joel willing -- the fortress of Worhkshap would soon arise. The first time he had emerged from his own tent and seen the others rising nearby was when the truth of his appointment became anchored in his mind. A missive was one thing, but this? Hundreds of people sheltered under his banner? That was more than any gesture from the Baronial Council.
He let his eyes trail back down to the various documents on the table in front of him. There were engineering analyses about the stability of the land, architectural plans for Worhkshap itself, guard reports on incidents in the tent city, and a dozen other things that needed his attention. But what he was most interested in now was a map.
"You are certain this is the most recent map?" he asked a nearby page. "I recall there being some confusion before about where the borders of Barony Thanasius Ampelius fell."
"Yes, my lord," the page replied. "A messenger brought it directly from Borrd itself."
PC traced one finger along the newly delineated lines. "It seems I came out of this quite well. The other new barons have rather less expansive domains."
"Perhaps it was a reward for your service, my lord," the page replied.
PC was silent for a moment. "That may be," he finally said, the doubt heavy in his voice. "Or perhaps there is something else at play, especially considering that the major mines fall under my dominion." The baron leaned back in his chair and tapped his fingers together. "The Council is ever so fond of their games of intrigue. I cannot help but feel that I am either being tested or being used."
He looked up at the page and allowed a faint smile to come to his face. "In any event," he continued, "it should prove to be interesting. Perhaps it would behoove me to test the waters, so to speak."
The page straightened up as PC rose to his feet. "What would you have me do, my lord?" she asked.
"I want messages sent to the other barons thanking them for their support. Have gifts sent to those whose lands are now under my dominion. Nothing outlandish, but enough to demonstrate my gratitude for their reasonableness."
"Anything else?"
PC paused again. He glanced down at the map. "Organize a scouting team. I want to see if there's a pass through the Mountains of Reverence that might support a road. Having an easier way north would be of great benefit."
The page nodded. "Understood, my lord."
"Excellent." He picked up a missive from the reeve of Risersh. "Now if you'll excuse me, I have new duties with which to acquaint myself."
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The reaction of Baron Huinesoron by
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The last standing tower of the ruined castle More Owls rose high above the treetops of the Umor Woods. Perched on the very top of its wall, Baron Huinesoron looked at his companion with a disgruntled expression. "I'm supposed to be on my way to Weab," he said, "and you're supposed to be letting my wife know. Would you care to explain why you've dragged me all the way out here?"
Freckles the messenger handed her lord a spyglass and pointed at the distant Mountains of Reverence. "Just below Kenzlaya peak," she said quietly.
Huinesoron squinted through the glass. "I see people," he said. "About five of them. Some sort of scouting party?"
"From Baron PC," Freckles confirmed. "They're searching for a pass through the mountains - a new trade route to the north."
Huinesoron frowned, and shifted the glass downwards. The line of the Lhawjeck river was just visible as a gap in the expanse of trees. "Is the Barnacle Way still navigable?"
"Mostly," Freckles confirmed. "It'll take him a while to clear out the undergrowth, but if he can find the pass and the road, it would be worth the investment."
"We should have brought down the pass as soon as we took it over," Huinesoron grumbled. "This was inevitable as soon as we lost control of the mines."
Freckles looked sideways at her lord. "We still could," she pointed out. "They haven't found it yet. Sandra and I could get in there and bring half the mountain down if we need to."
Huinesoron turned to look at his messenger-stroke-spy-stroke-saboteur. "That," he said, "would be an act of war."
"Only if Baron PC found out," Freckles replied. "He would never have to know - and we'd keep the Copperway trade. You could say that trying to cut us off is economic warfare, anyway."
"You're right," Baron Huinesoron agreed softly, "I could." He raised the glass again, studying the distant scouting party. "And with our port and shipwrights both taken from us, Barony Huinesoron is going to be very low on funds in the near future. But still... war..."
He tracked his view sideways, to the pass that Baron BeautyID had cleared years before to provide access to Baron Bjam's holdings - the pass that he had meticulously disguised and erased when he took control of the region. It wouldn't take long for Baron PC's scouts to find it, and with all the equipment and manpower now available to him, clearing the road would be simple.
"All right," the baron said at last, "I have a plan. Let's get down to ground level again. Then... we need to find out just how navigable the Barnacle Way is."
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To say that Baron PC's scouts were surprised to find the Lord Protector of Ozerbord hailing them from the slopes below would be an understatement. After a brief debate over whether this technically qualified as a military incursion, and whether it was appropriate to tie the baron up as a prisoner, they yielded to his request and led him down the south face of Mount Kenzlaya, and all the way to the construction site that was Worhkshap.
Huinesoron thus became the first baron to pay an official visit to Baron PC. When the requisite pleasantries had been exchanged, he got straight down to business.
"There is a pass through the Reverences," Huinesoron said, "and a road on the far side, following the line of the Lhawjeck. My messenger here will lead your scouts to it, if you wish.
"And once you have a route to the Umor Woods open, I wish to make a trade agreement with you. I have... a plan, to sustain the economy of Ozerbord; but in order to carry it out, I will have need of a great deal of lumber. You already have the infrastructure in place from the mines; cutting wood is, I assume, a plan that has already crossed your mind. I would like to purchase it.
"What do you say?"
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An unexpected visitor. by
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"The scouts have returned, my lord,"
"That was much faster than I expected," PC said as he looked up from a proposed design for what would become Worhkshap's library. His eyes narrowed slightly at the uncomfortable expression on the page's face. "I take it there has been some unforeseen complication."
The page withered slightly under the baron's inquisitive stare. "They, ah... Baron Huinesoron is with them, my lord. He wishes to speak with you."
PC sat in silence for a moment. "That," he eventually said. "is quite the complication. Are the scouts all right?"
"Yes, sir."
"Very well." He rolled up some of the more sensitive plans and tucked them away inside a nearby chest. "Thank the baron for gracing me with his presence and inform him that I shall meet with him shortly. Then inform the knights and my seneschal of this development. Quietly, if you please."
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"What do you say?"
PC stroked his beard as he leaned back slightly in his chair. As soon as he had seen the proclamation from the Council outlining his domain, he knew that the other barons would eventually approach him for trading rights. He just didn't expect the "eventually" to be quite so soon.
"An interesting proposal," he said. "Certainly one I would not be opposed to, provided I knew a bit more about this plan you have for Ozerboard's economy. I have no objections if you wish to keep the details to yourself, of course, but more specific information may help... smooth out negotiations, as it were." -
[As mapkeeper...] by
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[... I can confirm that all the mountain ranges of Konti-Nyuum are theoretically crossable. The exception is the Wattufs, which have only one navigable pass - the Pass of the Five. The crossing of the Copperway into Ozerbord is by way of a tunnel built by Baron BeautyID to provide trade (the Iron Highway was at that point still a smuggling route - actually, we only legalised it last year!) and access to Baron Bjam's holdings - by way, in fact, of the pass your scouts are looking for. That was before the Umor Woods got out of control.]
[Of course, 'theoretically' doesn't mean 'easily'; the pass can be as simple or as arduous as you like. Or it may be unfindable - thus far, there's no known route over the central Larninkurvs, though Sir Ekyl of Godreve is hunting for one.]
[Also: Baron Huinesoron will have an RP response to what he views as an act of economic warfare - though it'll have to wait for tomorrow for me to write it.]
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Happenings in Barony Huinesoron by
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Baron Huinesoron stepped out into the central court of castle Kwenaya and smiled as the wintry air washed over him. Across the level ground, beneath the branches of the great tree that rose from Kwenaya's heart, two of the castle staff were deep in conversation. As the baron approached, he hailed them: "Rosalind! Terri! A fine morning, is it not?"
The two women made their greetings - Rosalind with an awkward curtsey, Terri with a small bow. "The weather is very nice," Rosalind said, "though it's also nice that it's warmed a little - otherwise the Font of Bulapka would still be frozen, and that wouldn't be nice."
Baron Huinesoron noted the harpoon she was holding, and nodded in satisfaction. "Your catch will be the centrepiece of our banquet," he told the castle's fisher. "I trust everything is nearly prepared?"
"Ah," Rosalind said, and glanced at Terri. "Well. That is to say."
Huinesoron raised an eyebrow. "I'm waiting."
"... I have fish to catch?" Rosalind offered. She gave another curtsey - still clumsy, but holding a spear as long as yourself will do that - and fled. The Baron watched her go, then turned to Terri.
"Is she having difficulty catching enough fish?" he asked. "I know winter is hardly the time for it, especially in the Font."
Terri looked faintly uncomfortable. "It isn't that, milord," she said. "It's... we've had some replies from your... guests."
"Ah!" Huinesoron beamed. "The new barons! Which of them have sent word?"
"... all of them," Terri said. "But the word is... perhaps not what you would wish."
Huinesoron frowned. "It will be rather difficult to change the date at this juncture," he said. "Perhaps if we simply extended the festivities to cover a second day... I can help Rosalind out with the provisions myself."
"Uh." Terri's discomfort was clearly growing. She pulled out a letter and held it up. "Baron PC sends his apologies," she said. "His new barony will require some time to set to rights, so he will not be able to attend."
Huinesoron chuckled. "A pity," he said, "but fair enough. Baron Phobos spent little time in the south - I can only imagine how disorganised the mines are. But what of Ba- I mean, Lady Iximaz? Critta-Kalthin, at least, can need little restructuring, after all the work we've put into it."
"Yes, milord," Terri said, switching to a second sheet. "But she has announced her own feast, to celebrate the arrival of Sir Storme of Hauk and the Knight Jumper in her barony. Ah, Dark Civilian Aakmal will be providing the food."
"That seems... fair," Baron Huinesoron said. "Could we send a message to her, offering to combine the two feasts? We could hold a festival in Ozerbord, in celebration of the new barons."
"Um." Terri turned the sheet of paper over. "She... appears to have reused a page from the Knight Jumper's letter to her. He is... somewhat uncomplementary about yourself and your lady wife. I... rather doubt he would attend."
"I see." Huinesoron pinched the bridge of his nose. "Then it will be Thanasius Ampelius alone. Very well: let the invitation be extended to all who dwell in the Monastery of Spectacle, in celebration of my former knight's elevation. It shall be a banquet to-- you're giving me that look again. What did he say?"
Terri opened the final sheet of paper. "Machinations, conspiracy, schemes... basically, it seems he's accusing you of promoting his cause before the Council for the sole purpose of ensuring Lady Kaitlyn's appointment."
"Hmm." Baron Huinesoron looked up at the great tree, to the pale blue sky above. "Well, then, you may as well tell Rosalind she can relax; we won't be needing that fish after all. And... are our messengers in residence?"
"I believe so, milord," Terri said. "Do you wish them sent out?"
"Yes. Please send Sandra to Ofum to inform Captain mal Orn that I will be requiring the use of Aberration. And send Freckles to El-J-- to Barony Kaitlyn. My wife is surveying the site for her hospital; let her know that I am heading to the Marizu League, and that her companionship in arms would be greatly appreciated."
"I... yes, milord." Terri hesitated a moment, then asked, "Milord... what will you do?"
"What I am best at," Baron Huinesoron said, turning on his heel. "Kill the Marizu." And he stalked off towards the armoury.
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[Oh, I am sure the Knight Jumper would attend, if asked.] by
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[He would even be kind and courteous... until the drink started flowing, that is. He still remembers who it was that knighted him in the first place, and he will never be able to repay that debt. He sees Hunesoron the man as a fierce warrior, a noble man, and worthy of respect. He even respects Kaitlin, if only for her strength as a warrior and status in Plort. He just does not like politics much, and assumes the worst of those in power. Especially when drunk.]
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[Yeah, but Baron hS is sulking now. ^_~] by
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[Hey, when two people have impugned his motives, and a third has previously stated her intention to take his lands by force if necessary, how could I miss the opportunity to give him a
royalbaronial strop?]
[I'm just glad it's him people are mistrusting, rather than me]
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[Oi, I thought we retconned that.] by
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[And it's not the Lady Iximaz's fault the Baron Huinesoron's messenger was a day too slow! :P]
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Thanasius Ampelius' missive by
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“Now this is ridiculous,” Thanasius Ampelius said, looking at his two compatriots (plus Kagemusha) and slapping the scroll on the table so it unrolled. “Barons, Knight, and civilians of Plort, yada yada, old people no longer being here, boring council stuff… ah, here it is. Fourthly, it gives me great pleasure to announce the creation of four new baronies. The Baronial Council has discussed the candidates extensively, and surveyed the feelings of the populace, and we are pleased to confer the rights, privileges, and duties of a Baron of Plort upon,” he paused and took a breath. Death Dendle chuckled under his breath. “Lady Iximaz — have we heard of her? Lady Kaitlyn — more of Eagleshadow’s politicking… Sir PC — makes sense, he’s one of the greatest men of our age… and one Thanasius Ampelius, the Warrior Monk.”
Thanasius got up, shot the scroll a disbelieving look, and started to pace around.
“Don’t tell me ambition did not stir in you when you heard that,” the body double offered from his dark corner. “I know for a fact you were busy acquiring new weapons recently.”
“Well yes!” Thanasius stopped in one place for a moment. “That crossbow needed repairing! Even though we found it in that despicable Marizu’s camp, it could still be used for good! And did you actually expect me to turn down a gift from Agog? That’s my home, you know!”
“Besides, if owning weapons correlated to political ambitions, I’d probably be spending more time in the cities,” noted Karrin the Blue, tapping her fingers against her swords.
“In your case, I’d check whether there’s a magpie in your family tree,” Death Dendle retorted. “You gather swords the same way Thanasius here gathers books or a magpie gathers shiny baubles.”
“Well, perhaps I’ll change my crest’s hummingbird to one, then,” Karrin replied drily. “In any case, we’ve gotten somewhat off topic.”
“True,” agreed Thanasius, who continued his pacing. “Now I’m supposed to claim a piece of land, no? And assume responsibilities… and sit in the thrice-accursed council! Look at that letter! Even July of Castle Flayme approves! I thought she didn’t think of me very highly after that argument!”
“Perhaps this is her revenge, then?” suggested Karrin.
“She didn't strike me as the underhanded type,” Death Dendle said. “In fact, quite the opposite: she’s blunt. I mean, she set sail to lands unknown some time after he left for Ydyff.” He nodded toward his master.
Karrin blinked. “I was joking. Did — did I not make that clear?”
“Apparently not,” Thanasius gave his body double a withering look. “Anyway… no, this is probably Baron Huinesoron’s doing. It’s not written in that” — he pointed at the scroll, which rolled up again — “but the rest of the missive said that his wife doesn’t actually have any voting power… just, y’know, territory. And guess where? El-Jheycom.”
Karrin raised an eyebrow. “Than, you do remember that I have as little knowledge of the politics of this land as a desert rabbit does of sailing, don’t you?”
“It’s simple, really. That was her old land… they declared independence, if I remember what I read correctly, but were absorbed back into Borrd after a while,” Thanasius said. “Anyway, my point is this: he probably wanted to throw suspicion off that move. What’s bothering me, though, is that so many people agreed… there were signatures in that other scroll — knights, citizens, the like; Skaer'morys the Silver, Knight Jumper, Lady Iximaz...” he sighed and massaged his brows. “Nevermind that; it’s just my inner conspiracy theorist. Let’s see what we can do about this.”
Karrin peered at the missive and walked over to one of the shelves, pulling out a map and setting it on top of the table. “Hmm... The law only requires that you have lands and a castle, correct?”
“And council participation, but yes, that’s about it.” The monk peered at the map. “Honestly, there’s no place I’d like more than this one.” He looked up, toward the high ceiling of the central hall of Castle Spectacle. “This place has been a home to me for a long time. The valley, while small, is fertile. There are deer in the woods; there’s that little stream...”
“Well, it’s certainly a better idea than leaving. We’ve just gotten the libraries in order, too,” noted Karrin with a smile.
Death Dendle left his corner to take a look at the map. “Look at this town,” he said, pointing to a town, situated on the coast, so small that the map didn’t even have its name. “It’s pretty close, and you need a port. It could use some hustle and bustle and maybe some help. As things are, they are vulnerable to being raided by the Marizu, and the closest place they could get help from is Risersh, which is quite a distance away.”
Karrin the Blue examined the map. “Skypcht? It’s rather small, so you wouldn’t have to worry about too much bureaucracy. The shipping industry there’s not large, but it’s fairly resilient... I’m still surprised at how quickly they rebuilt after those storms two autumns ago.”
“They are good people,” the Fast Seneschal, silent until now, said. “I remember setting a forge up there after the storms hit. They are a diligent people; they started rebuilding right away.”
“My sort of people, then,” Thanasius decided. “I shall send the Council a reply.”
He picked a quill and a (mostly) empty scroll out of the general mess that covered the table. He started writing on it, muttering under his breath. “To the Council, yada yada, honorifics, blah blah, the Baron Thanasius requests the lands at the southernmost tip of Ozerbord, those surrounding the vale of the Monastery of Spectacle, and the nearby town of Skypcht, as territory. Yada yada, officialiasms, signed, Thanasius Ampelius, Baron.” The monk paused and showed the scroll to the others. “What do you think?”
Karrin nodded. “It certainly looks official.” She smiled slightly. “Hm... As the Seneschal and myself live here, should we swear allegiance or somesuch?”
“That would probably help later down the road,” Thanasius said. “Plus, I’d need someone to tell me when I’m doing stupid things, no? You two helped me a lot, and I’d hate to be forced to evict you because of some stupid bureaucratic rule.”
“Well, I’d hate to be evicted, so that works.” Karrin picked out another scroll and began to write. “Hm-de-hm, officially swear fealty and allegiance to the Baron Thanasius, blah-blah will pay taxes and reside in territories, signed Karrin the Blue, Mage.” She blew on the ink carefully.
The Seneschal took the scroll Death Dendle was trying to hit his head with and quickly scribbled something on it, spreading sand on it to dry the ink. Thanasius took a look above his shoulder and hmmed.
“That’ll do. I hope the vultures at the Council won’t eat us alive for the slightly informal phrasing.” The monk rolled the scrolls up and looked at his Kagemusha. “You’ll be the messenger.”
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An Addendum to the Missive by
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“It has come to my attention that King Edward the Swift peacefully vacated his throne. In his rule's stead a duumvirate was established; Tivit's new rulers are Lords Drew and Itcader. They have established an alliance with the Democracy of Kikaster and set upon tending to Tivit's much-neglected infrastructure. My sources tell me that while there was some unrest, the land is quiet now and life goes on as usual.”
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[I'm more surprised...] by
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[... that they've somehow gotten a shipping industry in place despite a massive cliff and deadly reef. Hmm... I'm thinking floating shipyards beyond the reef, myself.]
The Edict of Bast has been applied, and in accordance with its results, we are instructed to offer you any lands up to the territory outlined on the map:
[Seriously, how much do you want? The whole of southern Ozerbord is only ten miles north-south - which makes me think my scale might be a little short, really, but that's for another day. Of course, that would give you control of the capital, which might be too much bureaucracy... which is a word I hate trying to spell]
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And lo, it is so. by
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[I get the distinct impression Baron hS ought to pay more attention to his people. There he was building up Critta-Kalthin as a harbour, when all the while there was a ludicrously-overengineered setup within the borders of Ozerbord. Silly Eagleshadow. ^_^]
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[You know...] by
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[I do wonder what Baron Huinesoron's reaction would be to that. Also, Skypcht is very, very small. Pretty easy for it to slip under the radar.]
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[Is that 'Skype chat', by the way?] by
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[For the glossary, you understand.]
[And... it occurs to me that I'm thinking about this the wrong way. You never actually said they were surface ships... and the word 'sky' is right there in the name...]
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Yes. by
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"Spectacle" is because the three of us have eyeglasses.
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So we're dragging sky ships into Plort? by
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Me likey! Do they look like this?
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Yes, yes we are. by
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Though I'd imagine them to look more like ships and less like giant balloons.
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Something more like by
on 2015-02-04 09:43:00 UTC
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This: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Skyship-17870175 perhaps?
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To my mind... by
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... they always end up looking something like this:
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That... doesn't look like a ship. by
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I was thinking about something like this.
That said, now that Thanasius Ampelius is a Baron, he gets extra points in his device, no? Here's a new description:
"Ner silver, rena blue; canta nastar alta tera, raven feather with blue highlights; canta nastar nica, a stylised flail; indil woven with stems of feathers, circular red braid."
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I tried having the ball of the flail alongside or at the end of the handle, and it just didn't look right, so I've gone with this version. I'm... not sure how 'stylised' it is, honestly, but it's the best I could come up with.
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Hm... by
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It looks good.
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It's a baby one. ^_^ by
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The larger varieties look more like this:
(Note: it's tethered, hence the column-and-ladder array going on there)
But it's your barony, and it makes sense that the Monastery would be more interested in magic ships than lighter-than-air. Hmm... actually, that gives me an idea...
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Now I'm curious. by
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Really curious.
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The plan of Baron Huinesoron. by
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[If you're confused over the timeline - Baron Me was originally heading to Ofum. Then Freckles caught him and diverted him to Barony PC. Then he returned home by way of Barony Iximaz. And now he's riding south to Barony Thanasius Ampelius.]
The Copperway was quiet as Baron Huinesoron and his secretary rode south. "This is a taste of things to come," Huinesoron mused.
"I'm sure it's not that bad, milord," Terri said. "Baron PC will get the trade network started up again in no time, and the Copperway is still the best route to the western baronies."
"But not to Borrd," Huinesoron said. "We've been suffering since the opening of the Iron Highway to legitimate travel; now we'll lose even more traffic to the Barnacle Way. And the people of Ozerbord will suffer, mark my word - unless we can pull this off."
"Yes..." Terri looked across at the baron. "Milord... I would feel much more comfortable if you'd brought Freckles with you. Baron Thanasius Ampelius may not be... feeling kindly disposed towards you, and I am no warrior."
"I needed Freckles to bring Sandra and Kaitlyn home," Huinesoron explained. "Besides, despite his elevation, Baron Ampelius is still a citizen of Ozerbord; he will not lightly attack the Lord Protector."
"No, it's not like that would grant him de facto independence or anything," Terri muttered, but she knew better than to pursue the argument. Once the baron's mind was set, it was set.
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When Thanasius Ampelius found him, Baron Huinesoron was standing on the outskirts of Skypcht, looking up at the newest sky-ship the town had completed. "They are truly remarkable," Huinesoron said, not looking round. "The magics which keep them aloft are beyond my understanding, but I can tell that you've already seen their potential far more clearly than I ever did."
The baron shook himself and gestured to his secretary, then looked at Thanasius. "But if I have been lacking in vision," he said, "at least my hindsight is excellent. As is my economics advice - I know, for instance, that these ships are highly expensive to construct and run. The magics involved, the relatively large size needed to get everything to work - or fit, for that matter! - the requirement for a mage to be on every crew... please don't think I'm slighting them, they are truly magnificent, but they are hardly suited for short-range, high-frequency transport.
"And so, for the good of Ozerbord and both our baronies, I propose an... alliance, I suppose, or agreement." Huinesoron gestured north, towards the distant Batveg Mountains. "In the north, on the Spalchik Lowlands, I am expanding the town of Emaille. There, I intend to construct my own flying ships - not the magic-powered variety you are working on, but lighter-than-air ships. They are slower, and more prone to being thrown off-course by the wind - but they are also far cheaper, and far quicker to construct.
"You could, of course, try to compete with me. You might even manage to claim the entire trade - the Skypcht industry is established, while Emaille's is new. But all that will achieve is to reduce the income Ozerbord can receive. If, instead, we work together, letting our two styles of sky-ship complement, not confront, each other... everyone will end up richer, and the rest of Konti-Nyuum will receive a better service.
"So, Baron Thanasius Ampelius - what do you say?"
hS
[Of course, it's a bit silly that Skype is sending messages long before Email - but we can allow a bit of timeline trickery in the service of plot, or of Plort. ;)] -
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The new baron's cowled head moved hither and thither as he observed the town. A commoner, bearing the stylised skyship symbol of Skypcht on a small armband, arrived and brought him a scroll, then retreated to allow the barons to converse privately.
Thanasius opened the scroll, read it, and wordlessly presented it to Huinesoron. It was an offer of alliance, signed by the King of Ydyff.
“Rumours travel fast, it would seem.” Slowly, the monk removed his cowl, revealing a bald head whose features slightly resembled those of a raven – there was something in the shining eyes, long nose and curious expression. His hands, too, somewhat resembled a raven's claws. He turned and glared at Huinesoron. “I will be frank.” A small pause. “I dislike your politicking. I dislike your methods. What's more, I dislike uninvited visitors – one could say that this is an act of spying, and Protector you may be, but this is not a matter of... national security, shall we say?”
Thanasius looked back toward the town. “However, I have a responsibility to those people. Would cut-throat competition help them? Maybe. Maybe not. Would cooperation – a cartel, in essence – help them? In the short run, certainly. In the long run, I am not so sure.”
The monk put his cowl back up. “This is not something I can answer right away. Despite your... lack of manners, showing up like that, I will not spit on my people's sacred traditions. Come with me to Spectacle, so we may dine in peace. I will talk with my friends, consult the relevant tomes, and you may take a break from your journeying.”
Inwardly, the monk smiled bitterly. How would the Baron answer that – would he, figuratively speaking, enter the lion's den, or would he risk offending Thanasius, who no doubt had a force of magi nearby, and was rumoured to be quite the warrior himself?
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A baron's reaction. by
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"Hm." Baron Huinesoron looked over his shoulder. "Terri? The Constitution, if you please."
Wordlessly, the secretary pulled a scroll out of its case and handed it to the baron. Unfurling it, Baron Huinesoron held it up for Thanasius to see.
"You appear to be under certain misapprehensions as to the nature of your position," Huinesoron said, his voice level and clear. "You are a Baron of the Union of Plort - a military leader. You have the authority to lead the people of your barony in the war against the Marizu however you see fit, and the responsibility to defend them from attack by our enemies in Weab. You have the right and duty to collect taxes and tribute in the name of the Baronial Council, and of your own barony, and to dispose of them as you see fit. All these things, Baron Thanasius Ampelius, you appear to be doing admirably, and I commend you.
"What you are not is a ruler, or governor, or any manner of civilian administrator. You have no right to conclude alliances. You have no authority over the people of Ozerbord except in terms of the war. And you do not," he finished, fixing the monk with a glare, "have the authority to declare the Lord Protector of Ozerbord a spy, nor to say what is or is not his concern. For the protection of Ozerbord against famine, against sickness, and against all internal threats, I rule this land.
"The Refuge of Ozerbord is of far greater import than your pride - it is the bastion of Plort, our last stronghold in the event of a Marizu invasion. The Marizu will assault us again; you may count on that. And when they do, the Wattufs will once again stand as a wall between the people of Konti-Nyuum and the urple hordes."
Baron Huinesoron looked up at the ships overhead, swinging through their graceful orbits over Skypcht. "You may build your ships," he said, "and dispose of them as you see fit; despite your dislike of my policies, the Refuge has never restricted free trade or the movement of goods. But if your actions bring harm to the people of Ozerbord, know this, Baron: I take my title very seriously. I will protect them - you have my word."
With that, the Lord Protector turned on his heel and, with Terri hurrying to keep up, strode off towards his grazing horse.
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[Baron Huinesoron has never been very comfortable with politicking. ^_^ And Lord Protector Huinesoron doesn't take kindly to people usurping his authority.]
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A Mage-Knight's Interruption by
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Karrin the Blue was having a somewhat trying day. First she'd been drawn into a dispute between two shipbuilders over who had the rights to use a certain area of the woods for timber, then she'd had to reassure no less than five people that no, the tax codes weren't changing and Thanasius had no interest in 'meddling where it's not needed,' and now that she'd finally gotten some work done on the ship-shelters, she needed to find Than, who of course was nowhere to be found.
The mage reached into her bag, tugging out a brightly-polished spyglass. She set Anne to her eye, frowning as the glass flickered through pictures of the town. Not there, not there... Aha!
Karrin replaced her spyglass and trekked up the hill where Than was standing. "Than! Hey, there you a-" she slowed as she saw what appeared to be the Baron Huinesoron storming off. "Oh dear Pterry, what is going on now?" -
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“Baron Huinesoron, apparently,” noted the cowled monk, “cannot read. Excuse me – I need to catch up with him before he does something rash.”
Thanasius Ampelius took a running start and leapt, covering the ground between him and the departing Baron in a single bound. Oddly enough, for a moment – when he was at the apex of his leap – he seemed to briefly become like a giant raven; that might just have been his cloak, though.
“Baron.” The black-clad monk barred Huinesoron's way. “You insult me and King Gantz of Ydyff with your hasty action. Read the scroll again.” He shoved it into his hands. “I did not send that scroll. It bears the Royal Seal of Ydyff, not the Raven Volant. Furthermore” – his eyes narrowed – “you insult me by rejecting my hospitality and by implying that I would let the people here come to harm. Being the Lord Protector does not grant you the right to treat the Knights of the land as though they are common serfs.” -
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"But I will not." Huinesoron shook his head. "If we are to speak of insults - you insult my intelligence by attempting to... imply that you were not suggesting you were considering such an alliance. As for the rest - an attempt to set yourself above the authority of the duly appointed governor of the realm, as you have done by asserting that I was spying, will most definitely harm the people of your barony - and all of Plort."
Baron Huinesoron swept out his arm, taking in the heights of the Wattufs that towered over them, and all the lands beyond. "Ours is a land under threat. The Marizu plot endlessly to bring us to ruin. We cannot afford the kind of internal discord you seem intent on provoking - the Union is not strong enough to withstand it.
"You are a Baron of Plort, over a realm you have yourself selected." Huinesoron drew a deep breath, and fought down the urge to continue with 'For Kanun's sake, act like one'. Fanning the flames was not the way to go. "You are... correct that you deserve the respect due your office. Therefore, out of... respect for the pressures that must be on you as you work to establish your barony, I will remove the person of the Lord Protector from your domains." He flashed the briefest possible smile. "No-one wants the management breathing down their necks, I am sure. And if, when your rightful authority," he placed the slightest stress on the word, "has been fully recognised among the people of your charge, you wish to extend your hospitality to the Lord Protector or to Baron Huinesoron, I - wearing whichever hat is appropriate - will be happy to accept."
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Memories of a Band by
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Thanasius grabbed his forehead. “I hate politics,” he mumbled to himself, then straightened. “Och, time to cut the knot.” He smiled – a crooked affair that didn't quite reach his eyes. “I know the Marizu are out there.”
The monk lifted his hand, letting the heavy sleeve of his robes fall down and reveal a bony arm. Roughly halfway between the elbow and the hand the pale flesh was covered in scar tissue. “This would remind me, if I would forget. My friends' pain would. The broken shards of my axe would.”
He looked back toward Skypcht. “Those people would; they have suffered many a raid.” He sighed like an old man many years his senior would. “I would never dream about doing anything that would strengthen the Marizu. Have I considered that alliance? Yes, I'd be a liar if I'd have said otherwise. Would have I acted on my own? Yechnagoth, no. I might dislike visitors” – a brief glare – “but despite what you might think, I'm not dense. I know the rules as well as the next man. Though, frankly, there is much to gain from that alliance and little to lose. Have you ever seen a Ydyffan warrior-poet in battle? I have, and they are magnificent.”
A wistful look crossed Thanasius' face. “I remember the King's standard flying proud over the advance of the Ciforrae, signifying that none may stand in their way and live to tell the tale.” -
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One hand on his horse's bridle, Baron Huinesoron half-turned. He held Thanasius' gaze for a long time, his eyes betraying nothing. Then, at last, he nodded slightly.
"I believe you," he said quietly. "You will serve Konti-Nyuum well." And with no more farewell than that, he swung himself up onto his horse and rode off towards the north.
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Ye merciful gods above, I hate the feudal system.
Politics in Plort is a complicated subject. In Borrd, the barons are the government, by way of the Baronial Council. In Wechi, she's completely separate, though an influential voice. In Iric, it's a similar situation, though at least one baron is also a member of the government.
In Ozerbord, though? Up until this week, the only baron was also the head of government; all civilian and military power was in one set of hands. That means Ozerbord never really bothered to notice the difference between the Baron and the Protector; in fact, that's the reason for the former tax havens, where Borrd law and Ozerbord clashed.
Now, at least, the havens are mostly gone. But there are now two barons in Ozerbord - a place where the people are used to thinking of the baron as the government.
So it's a feudal system of sorts: a setup where the baron (that's Thanasius) tries to claim as much authority as he can get away with, while the Protector (Huinesoron) tries to keep hold of it. Which way the balance will swing on any given day depends on the people of Barony Thanasius Ampelius, for the most part.
And one weapon in that political war is stating your case over-strongly. I have no clear idea where the line between baron and Protector lies in the structure of Ozerbord - and I suspect Baron Me doesn't, either. He's making claims, and if he can get them to stick, they'll become the foundation of Ozerbord's future political system.
Yeah. I hate the feudal system. And politics. Especially politics.
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I don't particularly like politics, either. by
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I've been forced become somewhat adept in that sort of trickery, however. Place I serve in is worse than a university in that regard.
I've had lots of fun with this RP, though. Even though I might have overdone the raven part. -
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I didn't pay much attention to the Baronial Council part last time and it's biting me in the hiney. ^^;
Also, I think I've learned more about medieval politics in the past week than I ever thought I would. I've been looking stuff up left and right to make sure I don't make another gaffe... >_> Still, there's some fascinating stuff I've learned, mostly about witch hunts. What? I got sidetracked. Apparently some people think that the ringleaders of the girls who started the Salem witch hunts had eaten this mold (known to produce LSD) that grows on rye bread, which was pretty much the only bread they made in Salem. Cool stuff, no?
Dangit, got sidetracked again.
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I was just waiting until I had a picture. ^_^
This is a Gossamer-class scout airship. Their hardened glass construction, paired with the transparent gas-filled envelope, renders them completely invisible at any decent altitude. They're perfect for forward scouting of Marizu positionsor for keeping an eye on those untrustworthy types in Iric.
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I KNEW IT! by
on 2015-02-08 14:19:00 UTC
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I knew you wanted it for glass! *happy dance*
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Ayup. by
on 2015-02-09 13:36:00 UTC
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Unfortunately, I can't decide on what to make a pun about for the 'magic'. Given that they're launched from Emaille, maybe something like RSA encryption...
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At least we haven't reach AWoIaF level of politics yet. by
on 2015-02-06 12:36:00 UTC
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We have one clear enemy and they are usually outside of Plort, there hasn't any recent civil wars, and Plort can stably have new Barons without revolts over weak and outrageous claims. That ought to be celebrated.
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The Poor Cynick's request. by
on 2015-02-03 01:02:00 UTC
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While it is true that the Poor Cynick has wandered the lands of all of all four nations in the past, he feels most strongly connected to Borrd. He therefore requests a domain somewhere in that region. However, being as he is a scholar before a warrior and has thus spent much time perusing the many libraries of Wechi, he would ideally like his territory to border that nation.
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The lands of Baron PC are laid out. by
on 2015-02-03 08:16:00 UTC
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They encompass the land between the Wattuf, Reverence, and Obref mountains, wherein are found the great mines of Plort; this sector of Baron PC's holdings includes the juncture of the Copperway and the Iron Highway, the town of Risersh, where trade between Ozerbord and Wechi is conducted.
To the north, Baron PC holds all lands east of the Wattufs, south of the Purmeshun Range and the River Ponchuashun, and west of the Temple of Kanun (which falls in his domains); the eastern border of his barony is defined as the eastern edge of the great Umor Forest, while to the south, his border with Wechi follows the River Lhawjeck.
[Which means Baron PC has somehow managed to obtain title to most of Borrd's natural resources. I'm sure this won't backfire in the least!]
[It also means that I can't offer any future baronies holdings in Borrd, Wechi, and Ozerbord; there's no space left. Which is fine, because three nations is too much anyway. ;)]
Let Baron PC name now his castle, and set the location and style of it down, that all of Plort may read and know the character of this baron.
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A most generous and humbling commission. by
on 2015-02-03 17:00:00 UTC
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Baron PC humbly accepts stewardship of these lands. He promises to oversee them with fairness and justice.
He intends to begin construction of the fortress of Worhkshap as soon as possible. It will stand by the road halfway between the mines of Wurtplai and Trevaya, who resources shall no doubt aid in its construction. Its doors will stand open to any commoner, knight, or baron who wishes to improve their skills both on the battlefield and in the halls of power. -
The Lady Iximaz requests firstly... by
on 2015-02-02 11:55:00 UTC
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...that, though she may now be a Baroness, she is a knight first and foremost and will continue to be referred to as such, rather than as Baroness.
She also requests a small portion of land along the coast of either Borrd or Ozerborrd where she might build her keep. Nothing expansive, as larger baronies are harder to manage and she wishes to focus on her campaign against the Marizu.
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The Edict of Bast... by
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... has presented the Lady Iximaz with a choice.
Due to her request for coastal access, the lands between the Gu-Gel and Friwep rivers are placed under her authority. Here may be found the harbour of Critta-Kalthin, whence our ships join the northern Hyparlink trade route to Tivit; the lands surrounding it are given over to farming. It provides easy access to the ancient city of Odolotos, and includes the castle of the Red Wall, former baronial seat of Laburnum [not marked, but placed just across the Gu-Gel from Odolotos].
The plateau between the Hustit and Wattuf mountains (labelled '2') is presented for her consideration. This land is undeveloped, and inaccessible from the Borrd side, but it is available if she wishes it.
Equally, the land between the Friwep and Wep rivers, and the Wattuf range, is offered to her. This land is fertile and filled with farms, but has of late been stricken by earthquakes. Aid from Baronies Neshomeh and Huinesoron has helped with the worst of the destruction, but there is still much suffering in the area.
Whatsoever the Lady Iximaz chooses, it would be wise for her to also select the name, location, and description of her castle; Barony Huinesoron, as previously stated, will construct a roadway to reach it forthwith.
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Re: The Edict of Bast... by
on 2015-02-02 12:49:00 UTC
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Lady Iximaz will gladly take the section of land containing Critta-Kalthin. She will build Keep De'endee at the edge of land closest to the Critta' Gap, where she might overlook the sea. Though small as keeps go, it is a safe haven for all who seek refuge, and has an entire library devoted to Arpee.
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A letter to the Baroness Iximaz by
on 2015-02-04 12:39:00 UTC
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To the Baroness Iximaz,
Great congratulations on your appointment as Baron. While I was in training at the time of my initial support for your selection, I have come now to pledge my fealty and tax to you, as well as, of course, my assistance in any raids you would wish to carry out against the Marizu. As this finds you, I am probably already en route to the newly established Keep De'endee, so a letter back would likely not find me, but I will of course leave again if you want me to do so.
I hope this finds you well,
Knight Ion
[Agents can be items other than weapons, right? Because I'm getting the feeling Ginger would be a horse.] -
The letter from the knight by
on 2015-02-04 13:27:00 UTC
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was gently rolled up and placed on the table. Lady Iximaz smiled to herself. She had overseen part of the new knight's training herself, and the girl showed promise.
Of course, that meant yet another person she would have to add to the list of banquet guests, which was growing at an alarming rate. Overseeing the preparations was much more stressful than she'd anticipated.
"And I suppose this is easy, compared to all the other duties I will have to learn," she muttered to herself. She put her head in her hands. If only Baron Huinesoron's invitation came a day earlier, she thought. Then all I would have to worry about would be traveling to his castle... She sighed and headed down to the kitchens to inform the cooks to plan for another guest. -
Tristram was getting nervous. by
on 2015-02-03 20:13:00 UTC
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His lord was sitting at the tavern's table, grumbling over his ale. While this was a rather common occurrence, the fact it was several hours before noon was unusual. "Ser?" he asked, cautiously stepping towards the knight. "Are you well?"
"Blargh." The knight sloshed his drink in the general direction of the boy. "Weeks. Weeks spent in this Six-forsaken city, waiting for some word from those barons!" He grumbled, as he took another swig of ale. "Here I am, giving words, supporting Iximaz and the Cynic, and waiting for something, and they just leave me here. I have work to do! I have...have swords to sharpen, shields to hammer, ships to carve...mead to drink."
Tristram sighed. "I thought you liked Plort?"
"I do!" Jumper grumbled. "I just like the open fields more. All of these... Bricks. It's unnatural."
Tristram was about to object, when a messenger came in to the tavern. "Is the knight Jumper here?"
Jumper did not look at the new person, but pointed his mug toward the voice. "'ere. What do you want?"
The messenger slipped a piece of parchment in front of the knight. "From the Barons." Without another word, the messenger turned to leave.
Jumper stared at the parchment. "About time," he mumbled, as he read the message. "Barons, keeps...Blah, where's the news...Ah! Here! 'Fourthly, it gives me great pleasure to announce the creation of four new baronies.'" Jumper sat up, pouring all of his attention to the announcement. "All four? Truly?"
Tristram edged over, reading over it himself. "Seems so. Din't you speak 'gainst Kaitlyn?"
"That I did. And yet, she has her barony anyways." He growled. "Lockes herself in Huinesoron's castle these last few years, doing nothing for the people, and now she has her own vote in the council." He snarled. "I have no doubt Huinesoron managed it. He has the other barons under his thumb. With her in there, now, his power is even greater. Hmph."
Tristram read closer. "Look 'ere!" he cried, pointing at a later passage. "Sais 'ere she can't vote. She ain't a proper baron."
"Hmmm... So it is. Perhaps there is some sense in the barons after all." Jumper stood, tossing some bits out of his purse towards the barman. "Well, boy, it seems we have some work to do."
Tristram scrambled to attention, ready for his lord's new orders. "What do we need to do, ser?"
"First, I must write to the lady Iximaz. She has her lands now, and I swore to assist in settling them. I need to see where my new castle will be anyway." He turned to the boy. "You, gather the horses promised to the Cynic, and deliver them for me. Stay with him until I send word to you. Can you manage that?"
Tristram nodded vigorously. "Yes ser! I'll be right onnit, ser!"
"Good! Now, off with you!" As the boy scampered off, Jumper glanced out the windows towards the sea. He could imagine the herds of horses running in the fields far, far from the tavern, with Bronne riders alongside, singing the Hymns of the Six. No longer would those feilds be his life. He would have to be serious about his duties as a knight, as a citizen of Plort. "A keep," he muttered, thinking to himself. "I shall need a keep. And stables." He slunk back down on his stool, tossing more bits on the counter. "I need a cider first."
[Basically, Jumper's moving to Iximaz's lands as well. She should be expecting him. He brings everything he had overseas with him, save the horses he promised to PC. I will deside on the keep's name later.] -
The more, the merrier! by
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Come, gentle friends, let us take up arms! When we stand together, the Marizu will be able to do naught but tremble in fear!
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[Relax!] by
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[I needed to move in to Plort anyway. Remember, Jumper lived overseas, coming around to visit before. Now, I have a place in Plort to operate.]
[Besides, if it gets to hard, being a leader, Jumper would be more then happy to help... What? No, this is not a bid for power at all. Why do you ask? <>>] -
A formal request by
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I, Storme of Hauk do formally request to move into your fair Barony Lady Iximaz. As an old citizen of the Are-pea Alliance, I feel I may do more good in your lands and may indeed be able to share some of the skills I have gained in the art of Arpee over the years I spent in the Alliance. I would be most glad to sail against the Marizu under your banner, should you be willing to allow me to become part of your new Barony.
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Sir Storm of Hauk, by
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It would be my honor and pleasure to see you take up residence in my barony. Your bow is strong and your heart is true. To have a knight so skilled as yourself join me in my quest is certain to strike fear in the hearts of the dreadful Marizu.
When you arrive, see me in my keep; I have a full library devoted to the ancient art of Arpying. Perhaps you might find something among the many tomes that will expand your already-vast knowledge of the art.
Yours,
Lady Iximaz
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I am darklordaakmal, but in Plort I am just a Civilian. by
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Shall I pledge allegiance and tax to you then, my Baron?
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I'd be cool with that. by
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[I mean—]
If you wish to reside in my barony when the boundaries are finalized, I do not have any objections. But please, good citizen Aakmal, call me Lady Iximaz. Baroness I may be, but I am still a knight of Plort and my first concern has always been the Marizu. -
Then let it be so. by
on 2015-02-02 13:11:00 UTC
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[For clarity: the little outcropping near the Gap is basically the Critta-Kalthin hinterlands, and is at sea-level. You can place De'endee there, or you can put it further up the coast, where it starts to climb towards the cliffs. Up to you.]
[Also, is Arpee the martial art commonly known as Arpying, as practiced across the Are-Pea alliance? Apparently its practitioners 'assume the visage of others'.]
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Re: Then let it be so. by
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[Oh, in that case, up on the cliff would be preferred.]
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[Sure there can] by
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[And your neighbour Ozerbord is an associate member of the Are-Pea alliance, so it even works thematically.]
[You are now officially on the map. Though the map in question hasn't yet been uploaded. But you're on it!]
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Oh, I just remembered- by
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I have a bit of an expansion/minor retcon for Lady Iximaz's blurb thinger. Should I wait until June to post that?
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Might as well do it now. by
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I've 'updated' them all to mention the baronies, so you might as well have it fully up-to-date.
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Woah, neat! Anyway, here you go. by
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Hear now, the tale of Lady Iximaz, wanderer of Weab, protector of Plort, and champion of Jaikaiar.
For many years, Iximaz was but a simple citizen of Fanvik-Neht, unconcerned with the rumors of the growing threat of the Marizu. She was content to pass her days listening to tales of exotic lands, and though she often wondered what it would be like to travel, she had no need to leave.
One day, however, it came to pass that a stranger to whom she had given refuge revealed herself to be a Marizu when she destroyed Iximaz's hometown. Iximaz fled Fanvik-Neht in shame, leaving behind her home and causing her to question all she thought she knew.
Forced into the wild and unforgiving lands of Weab, Iximaz learned to fight for her survival. She traveled the continent, occasionally finding refuge among the people of Bronee or the Potters' Moore.
After many months, Iximaz found herself in the land of Tivit. Here, she first heard the tales of the land of Plort and the brave knights who fought the Marizu. Inspired by these stories, she traveled to the island, where she was welcomed like a long-lost friend. She made a new home in the shining city of Borrd and made an effort to learn their laws and customs.
As she became familiar with the city, she found herself going to the knights and asking to hear more tales of their triumphs, and her desire to join their ranks grew ever stronger. At last, she steeled her courage and went to the Barons of Plort and asked to train as another warrior.
Baron Huinesoron pondered her request. "Though it is still too early to be certain," he said, "from what I can tell, you show promise. I shall grant you permission to train as a knight." And thus, he bestowed upon her the title of Lady.
Her weapons in her early years as a knight were simple, a sword named Randa and a bow named Rina. Why she chose these names is unknown; rumors abound as to their origins. Some say Rina is Lady Iximaz's true name; others say that Randa was named after a very dear friend. Regardless of how the weapons were named, the sword Randa was unfortunately lost in battle, and for a brief time, Lady Iximaz halted her crusades against the Marizu while she searched for a suitable replacement. At long last, she found one: Zeb, a sword forged in the distant land of Pokhemmon, imbued with magic so that it crackled with lightning. Satisfied with her new blade, she resumed her fight once more.
It was near this time that she was appointed Baroness, and she built her castle De'endee on the northern coast of Borrd, high on a cliff overlooking the sea. It was small, as castles go, really more of a keep, but it served as a safe haven for all who requested asylum, and it contained a vast library devoted entirely to the ancient art of Arpying. While not away fighting Marizu, there she resided, managing her barony to the best of her ability.
For years to come, Lady Iximaz rode forth, her banner held high, spreading the teachings of Jaikaiar and driving away the menaces of the Marizu. -
*snatches mini-Boarder* BACK IN THE CAGE, YOU! (nm) by
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Choose! by
on 2015-02-03 00:28:00 UTC
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Your agents have won an all-paid vacation to one of these places at any point in time; where will they go?
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Vay-cay-shun? by
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My agents hardly know the meaning of the word. However...
Gall might choose Pandora for the opportunity for some serious high-flying action. Fellrazer would come too, of course, disguised as a Banshee. She might try to convince whoever's providing the disguises to make him a Great Leonopteryx, but since she's dragging Derik along, he'll make sure that doesn't happen. It would attract too much attention.
Jenni might take Henry to visit the Wizarding World, but they'd probably have to stay away from Hogwarts itself. There's no explaining the presence of a six-year-old there, and she wouldn't have him disguised as anything else since he's so young. Still, there's always Diagon Alley.
Ilraen would be happy to go anywhere with open grasslands. He might choose Narnia and try being one of those centaurs that people are always comparing him to. He might enjoy studying astronomy with them, too.
Nume would choose Gallifrey. Then he would gank a TARDIS and go wherever and whenever the hell he wants to. Psych! ... But he'd probably just go looking for lost texts to read. Library of Alexandria, anyone?
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Sorry, but.... by
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I don't think Supernumerary's shenanigans would be possible, because they would be Sue-level canon breaches if he made them.
Or good friend Nume here, lacks the biodata modifications done to Time Lords, specially the Symbiotic Atomic Nuclei; which are needed to operate and form a quasi-symbiotic link with a TARDIS, without these the Capsule would be destroyed during time travel and Nume would die.
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Shows how little I know about the Whoniverse. {= )
Well, in that case, I suppose he might have to try and talk one of HQ's resident Time Lords into it. I'm sure there's one or two who would be interested in such a trip. I mean, they have to be called "the Reader" and "the Librarian" for a reason, right? Or maybe the Fisherman would go along because hey, wacky adventure fun times! {= D
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Librarian... by
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Doesn't have a TARDIS and is a computers-librarian with an obsession with the Osirians' Riddle, not a "I wanna read everything" guy.
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I suppose so... by
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Though, Nume doesn't need to go to Gallifrey for that, he could easily do that in World One. Not to mention the fact that the resident Time Lords from HQ aren't going to have a very warm welcome there.
Speaking of which, how many are of them? 'Cuz I was maybe, sort of, kind of, developing one for future use as an agent... -
A good handful. by
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They've even got a club.
Note that this doesn't include the Guardsman, who doesn't trust the Council further than he can throw a Dalek (which probably happened at least once at some point during the Time War). -
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Nume would choose Gallifrey. Then he would gank a TARDIS and go wherever and whenever the hell he wants to. Psych!
Nope, sorry, the headcanon's already been formed! -
Hehe. by
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Okay, so what do you see him doing with it? I'm curious. *g*
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Hmm... by
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I have no idea! Whatever it is, though, it would be fun to read. ^_~ Well, he'd go to the Library of Alexandria... maybe see the Lord of the Rings movies in theaters... Warn his you get self to never ask for an Andalite partner...
I guess I didn't think past the actual joyride part. Also, 'Nume' and 'joyride' are two words that just don't seem to go together. -
My agents would probably refuse. by
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None of these places actually interests them.
In fact, the only one they're familiar with is Hogwarts, and... well, Nikki might like it after all, but Agent!Sergio would be disappointed at the lack of places where cars can be driven around Hogwarts, or even most of the other places ("It's four freaking years that I don't get the chance to drive my Trueno, I want a place with roads") and Corolla prefers more high-tech settings. -
Choosing! by
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Doc - Narnia. Like me, Doc has a interesting soft spot for Narnia as an especially pure and moral world. (Even though we only read the series in high school, believe it or not.)
Dream choice: The nameless club at 249B East Thirty-Fifth Street from "A Winter's Tale: The Breathing Method." (A.k.a, the one novella from Different Seasons not turned into a movie yet.) It's a club where people meet to tell stories, but it's also said to have many "rooms and corridors . . . entrances and exits." Sounds like a great place to get lost!
Vania - Probably Asgard, out of these choices. Games and musicals are Vania's thing, so none of these would leap out at her, but Asgard's interesting blended science/magic would be intriguing to her.
Dream choice: Right now, probably Twilight Town, to try some sea salt ice cream. Maybe she would try some of the odd jobs that appeared as mini games in Kingdom Hearts II. And finally find out what that beach looks like! Later on in my spin-off, Vania will get introduced to Lost, which will probably become her dream vacation.
Yoof - Definitely the Hogwarts kitchens.
Dream choice: Probably that diner in Spaceballs, in hopes of meeting Barf in person (while scoring a meal).
Séverine - She would probably go to somewhere Elf-inhabited in Middle-earth and try to learn to make proper lembas.
Millie and Olsen/Mollie and Ollie - Hm. None of these places are Disney (no, Narnia and Asgard do not count). I could see them going to Hogwarts in a (doomed) attempt to learn magic to replace the kind Millie has lost without her brush. -
Well, Equestria's not on the list... by
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...and the only Panem I'm familiar with is the panem you buy at the grocery store or bakery... I'll go with Narnia. Centaur disguise?
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Well... by
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Kelly: "Olympus? I mean it's my home-continuum, and I wouldn't mind going home for a bit and seeing my dad again, and besides last time I saw it i was a bit messed up from the battle that had just taken place..."
Apollo: "Asgard, a load of super-powered beings with medieval style weaponry and lots of potential warfare. it sounds way too much like home to miss." -
Hmm... I'll ask them. by
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Agent Huinesoron: "Hmm. I suppose Narnia? Most of the others are filled with technology and/or humans, and I spend enough time back home as it is. It could be interesting to visit Cair Paravel; I wonder if anyone's ever performed an archaeological excavation there..."
Agent Kaitlyn: "Middle-earth. First Age. Doriath. Luthieeeen... wait, 'all-paid'? Think I can convince them to import some hobbits to Doriath, too?"
Agent Selene: "I think I'll take Asgard. No particular reason - I just think it sounds interesting. Um, as long as Loki's not there."
Agent Morgan: "I'm currently banned from Gallifrey for timeline-related infractions. Failing that, then, how about Olympus? I like their architecture, and yes, I know exactly who I sound like."
Agent Rosalind: "Oh! I would like, be interested in, and enjoy a trip, tour, vacation or holiday to Hogwarts, being the school of magic in the series of Harry Potter books by J.K.Rowling, said series of Harry Potter books consisting firstly of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, secondly of..."
Agent Haar: "Panem."
I think that's enough from them.
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Hmm... by
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Marvin and Printworthy... would have a hard time. Probably Narnia, but Middle Earth is a serious option. You know what, I am going to say Narnia. At least Printworthy's disguise would be minimal. He would loose the cutiemark, grow a little taller, stretch out his muzzle, and loose the glasses. He could stay a unicorn at least. And it is very pretty, with a lot of charm, and wonderful citizens, for the most part. While they love Equestra, and will always love it, no matter what is thrown at them (and this is a promise I make to them and you all), Narnia would be a welcome break for them.
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Well, I'm pretty sure none of my agents would choose Panem. That place kind of sucks for its people!
But, among my other teams...
Team Ari, Tera, and Theia: Visit Asgard! (This is where I'd go as well)
Team Lana, Narav, and Riaa: Visit Middle Earth, preferably one of the more scenic, less war-torn parts, and go camping. They stay far away from Mirkwood and any place where spidermonsters are likely to be killed, even with the disguises.
Team Cepha, Amara, and Fio: ...They'd probably also visit Asgard, but Olympus might also work!
Doc Kindheart: Visits Gallifrey and checks out their medicine, because she has no idea how vacations work
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Hmmm... by
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Falchion would probably insist on going to Pandora, just for the sake of the creatures and awesome scenery (that and getting to be an Ikran, probably), while Rashida would prefer Asgard because she'd be fascinated by ancient mythologies aside from Egyptian. Sarah, of course, would go to Asgard purely to see Thor.
E.V.L. would like to visit Hogwarts purely for nostalgic value (one of her homefics took her there, after all), and Rayner, of course, won't have any of it. He'd probably want to go to either Middle Earth or Narnia instead (he's a humanized MLP character, MLP is sorta fantasy, so he likes fantasy... sounds legit).
Why have any of those, though, when you could have Isla Sorna, or even the upcoming Jurassic World? Dinosaurs for everybody! :D -
"Hey, what d'you have there, Penny?" by
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The Chinese woman looked at Angus from across the Cafeteria table they shared. "It's a PPC travel brochure that I managed to find under some mouldy paperwork in Personnel," she said as she handed the document to her coworker. "I think it's supposed to convince the newbies that maybe, just maybe this place isn't a total pit of despair."
Beside her, Nasir sighed and rolled his eyes. "Given the fact that you found this by digging under some abandoned crud... well, I don't think this thing lasted very long."
Penny shrugged. "Iunno, but it's still pretty to look at."
Meanwhile, Angus was examining the brochure. "Well, let's see... oh, the Hogwarts one looks nice. If the trip also included Hogsmeade I'd take Sophie to Honeydukes and buy her some candy..."
"Ooh, sounds lovely," said Penny. "There's nothing on this list that really grabs my attention-- I'm not part of any of these fandoms-- but I wouldn't mind a trip to Middle-earth. Shire, here I come!"
Nasir pointed at the brochure. "Hey Angus, may I have a look at that?"
The blond man passed the travel guide to his Arabic coworker. "Yeah, no problem man. Actually," he turned to Penny, "a trip to Gallifrey wouldn't be so bad."
"It's got to get unstuck from that pocket dimension first, though," sighed Penny. "Hah! To think that ten-ish years ago we could actually go there. It's funny how things change, eh?"
Both of her coworkers muttered sounds of agreement. Nasir looked up from the brochure and asked: "Where is Panem? It looks like some American city but... I don't know."
"Uh, I think it's a nation in the Hunger Games 'verse if I remember correctly," said Angus, scratching his chin. "Y'know, the young-adult-dystopian-future-kill-people-for-sport novel?"
Penny arched an eyebrow. "Another Battle Royale copycat? What is it with all of these authors and shoving teens into an arena to fight to the death? Did they never grow out of their gladiator phase or something?"
"That's a thing?" said Nasir.
The Chinese agent made a vague waving gesture with her hand. "Whatever. You know what I mean. So! Where do you want to go?"
Nasir looked at the brochure again. "Hm... I've always had a thing for floating islands and stuff. I'll take Pandora: those airborne landmasses are like a poor man's Sanctaphrax but oh well."
Angus checked his watch. "Fifteen minutes of break time left, guys. Shall we?"
Penny and Nasir gathered their trays of food and stood up. "Let's roll," said Penny. "I can't wait to go and read some more badfic while surrounded by a bunch of weeping, sleep-deprived adults!"
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Yay, fantasy vacations! by
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Also, Middle-Earth during the Second Age. No one hears much about that, after all, and my agents both appreciate Middle-Earth's awesomeness :) :)
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Well, I heard Númenor is fantastic this time of the year ;) (nm) by
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Oh, yeah, it's lovely. by
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Brilliant sunshine, gentle breezes, only a slight chance of giant storm-eagles, mega-earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and all-consuming tidal waves. Highly recommended. :D
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Well... by
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During the first 17 centuries or so of the Second Age, only the first two were to be expected. ;D
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Hmm... this is a tough one. by
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I really wish one of the choices was Redwall. So much delicious food...
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I think Xericka and Gremlin would visit either Asgard or Gallifrey. Gremlin would probably push for Asgard for the festivities and the feasting, whereas Xericka would be more interested in Gallifrey's cultural and historical aspects.
Danny would probably go with Pandora. It's probably the closest to a traditional "I just want to relax" kind of vacation, despite the poisonous atmosphere and nasty beasties. I don't see a lot of kicking back in Narnia.
Laura and James... I don't know. James might like a kind of exploration-style of vacay, so I could she him doing well in Pandora or Middle Earth. But both together? I can't really see them going to any of these places as a form of relaxation. Now if you had said it was this Pandora--
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Are you going somewhere with this, or is it just for fun?
That being said, my agents are probably sick of Hogwarts by this point, and will be sick of Olympus and possibly Gallifrey and Narnia by the time I'm through with them. And Panem just sounds dangerous.
So I'll go with Middle-earth. I'm sorry to say that, even though I've read the books a few times, I don't know the continuum well enough to do a mission in there, so my agents won't be going there anytime soon. And since I'm rereading the series now, I'm feeling hobbitish today. Off to the Shire! Wait, scratch that— off to OFUM! -
Is just for fun. =D (nm) by
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Re: Choose! by
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Agent Miah and Cali would go to Asgard. Kelok and Unger to Gallifrey, and Carry Onin to Pandora. All of them chosen because those have some similarity to either their origin or where they work a lot, but is not where they originated or work a lot.
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D - all of the above. But if I had to chose I would have to say either Hogwarts or Gallifrey.
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Introducing a Floater team by
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So I believe the last time Caddy and I posted a PPC story was sometime in 2012. We actually started writing several more stories, but we never managed to finish them.
Until Now!
We not only finished a story, it introduces a brand new team!
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"[T]he Department of Out of Character Hobbits needs me." There's a sentence that's never been uttered before.
And... yikes. Incorporeal agent. That's gonna be interesting to watch.
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Ficlet. by
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"Dagger! Dagger Dagger Dagger!"
Agent Dagger put down her book with a sigh, and wished yet again that she wore glasses so that she could glare at her partner over them. "Have you just found a lost weapon," she asked, "or are you trying to get my attention?"
"I haven't lost a dagger," Maly mused, "so I guess it's the former. And speaking of guessing - guess what!"
"Is it that Tanfin's moving up to the Sprouts next week?" Dagger suggested. "Because you've enthused over that four times already today."
"That is pretty cool," Maly admitted, "but no. We've got a recruit!"
"I didn't think any more kids were turning four for a couple of months," Dagger said, tapping at the console to pull up the latest list from the Nursery. "Did they pull a kid out of a badfic somewhere?"
"Not that, silly sausage," Maly said. "A recruit. To the department."
Dagger swung around in her chair and stared at her partner. "To Out-of-Character Hobbits?" she demanded.
"Mm-yep!" Maly beamed. "The Authoritative Elanor called me in to say that some chick called Math-thrower or something is moving in with us, due to 'the increased demand caused by the release of the new movies'. Won't that be awesome?"
"I suppose it'll increase my reading time," Dagger allowed. "So where's she going to operate out of? I'm surprised Operations are willing to give us another RC."
"No, silly," Maly said, "didn't you listen? She's moving in with us."
"... you have got to be kidding."
"Nope!" There was a knock on the door, and Maly bounced over to it. "What do you reckon - is that her, or is it her new bed? Ooh! Maybe it's both!"
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Would you like to have Maedhwen as a character? I do not plan to do anything else with her.
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I'm not really likely to use her much myself (come on, it's DOOCH), but this is the third Maly-Dagger appearance over the years, so who knows? She can at least join the 'mission-response ficlet' team. Thanks!
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Yaaaaaaaaaay! by
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Doom/Gloom has been one of my favorite PPC agents for a while now, soooooo . . . I'm glad she actually exists now!
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You're still alive! by
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Nah, I kid. Yes, we are glad she exists now too! It's ben wwaaaa(like seriously)aaaaay too long since we started that. Good thing we have no excuses for the actual mission, since it was almost done too. Ha ha ha!
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Yar, I live. by
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But both my computers right now are pretty garbage, and get crashed by the chat room. I'll get a new computer eventually, and hang out more again!
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But, of course. by
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I look forward to talking with you more, of course. Gloom's first mision with Carry should be done soonish, so that should stave you off from eating any poor newbies for a bit.
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Looks cool (Yeah, very constructive) by
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It seems fine to me, but I'm also wondering which continuum Gloom comes from...
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A ghost agent looks promising by
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Unfortunately I don't know her origin. Apparently it's a somewhat obscure game?
I don't remember Carry Onin and Nicodemus. Did you actually write the mission where Cadmar and his/her partners rescued them, or is this one of your unfinished tales?
Who shut the bathroom door? I have to ask, because I'm not a native speaker, and I'm trying to learn grammar and punctuation. To me, Gloom watched him retreat, and shut the bathroom door looks like Gloom watched Carry retreat, and than she shut the bathroom door. But that's impossible, because we know that she cannot touch the door. If retreat and shut the bathroom door is what gloom watched Carry doing, I would omit the comma.
Isn't the Floating Hyacint floating in some kind of pond or bassin when Gloom jumps on the spot and hugs the Hyacinth's stalk? Nice stealth pun when we realize later that Gloom doesn't care, because the water cannot wet her.
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Links to answers by
on 2015-02-03 21:55:00 UTC
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I do Gloom/doom is from Corpse Party. The game not the anime. She looks something like this only without a missing eye.
We'll take that comma out. It was intended to be Carry closing the door.
Carry Onin and Nicodemus were originally from this mission PPC for Eva! by Caddy-shack. It was the first mission with Maria, Cadmar, and Mark together.
Nicodemus had no name in that story. He has picked it up somewhere else. I know it isn't a good name for someone who was supposed to be from Rohan, but their entire region was uncanon, and they actually knew very little about the real Rohan.
Carry treats Nico as a son, although he was described as a brother in the mission. There'll be more backstory on how they got from badfic rescues to Agent living with child in future stories.
Maethrowen was originally Gláclya from that fic. I am not any sort of expert with Elvish, so if Maethrowen is a terrible name for an elf, let me know. -
About the name... by
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Well Maethrowen... is not a bad name per se, it just has a one or two orthographical errors, it should be written Meidhwen, Maidhwen or Maedhwen (like Maedhros, the son of Feanor), the meaning would be "pale maiden", from maidh, "pale", "fallow" or "fawn"; and -wen, "maiden".
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Well in that case, I am surprised it as close as it is, because I am almost certain I remember the site I got the name from saying it meant something like battle maiden.
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And your source wasn't exactly wrong, but wasn't right either; the Noldorin maeth, refers more to a fight or a small brawl between a small amount of people, rather than an actual "battle"; not exactly the word someone would use for name, and even if was used, the name would be "Maethwen"
Authwen ("War/Battle Maiden") and Dagrwen ("Battle Maiden"), although not exactly names an elleth would use; are closer to that meaning, if your were seeking for a name with that meaning. -
For the record, here: by
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Maethor is Sindarin (presumably Noldorin, but Ardalambion doesn't specify well) for 'warrior'. So Maethorwen is a perfectly good name meaning 'Warrior Woman'. Not a terribly creative name for a child, but then again, neither is 'Man-Woman' (hi, Galadriel!), or 'Elf-Man' (hi, Elladan!).
Maedhwen would definitely fit the character, who's described like this:
A young elf, probably a few years, as in a hundred or so, older that her walked up. She had blonde hair, emerald green eyes, long eye lashes. She was tall, probably 5"9' or so. She wore a long black dress and she was almost as pale as Eva. This girl was beautiful. Eva couldn't even take her eyes off her.
But she also gets quite violent, so Maethorwen would work, too. Hmm... since I've adopted her, I'll have to read her origin mission and find out who she is. ^_^
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Right, let's see. by
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Glacyla, as she was then known:
-5'9'', which means she's not Noldorin, and probably not Vanyarin either; she's a Teler of some description.
-Blonde, which might suggest she's related to Thranduil in some way (though not closely), or Haldir (ditto).
-Green eyes. Emerald green eyes, which is unfortunate. Put that down to her being a badfic character.
-Looks about 120... but she's an elf, and I doubt Eva has any skill in judging these things. It's not like she was looking into her eyes or anything.
-Has 'cold' eyes.
-Has a violent streak.
-Is quite clearly under the influence of the Voice of Saruman. That implies... what? Saruman never became openly evil, so he's not going about kidnapping elves. Perhaps she was a member of his staff, before he turned to Sauron, and never got a chance to leave.
Did Isengard have a household staff? It's hard to imagine Saruman cooking his own meals, bleaching his own robes, running his own forges and the like, and we know he wouldn't have been using orcs before the War of the Ring (because he's not thick). So perhaps, yes, he had elves on the staff. I can't really imagine him trusting Men, though he certainly used them.
And what sort of elf would he want to... employ, for want of a better word? One from Eregion, who might know something about ring-lore. Yet Glawhatsit was being used as a housemaid, which means she didn't know about rings.
Okay, then. She was born in Eregion to parents out of either Lorien or Doriath (in both cases, having come to Eregion with Galadriel and Celeborn). Her blonde hair and unusual light eyes got her named Maedhwen, 'the pale maiden'. When she grew up, she became a warrior, and chose the name Maethorwen - because it sounds like her original name, so she was sure she'd respond to it.
She fought against Sauron's forces during the fall of Eregion, and was one of the survivors who managed to retreat to Imladris. When Numenorean aid drove Sauron back, she moved to Lindon - she wanted to live somewhere with a decent population (ie, not Imladris), and didn't want to live under tree cover (ie, not Lorien).
She fought in the War of the Last Alliance in Gil-Galad's host, and acquitted herself well. When the Noldor began to quit Middle-earth, she remained in Mithlond, and (when not guarding the city) became an adequate shipbuilder under Cirdan.
She was present in the city when Saruman's ship arrived, and despite not knowing who or what he was - he just looked like an elderly mortal - she sensed something in him: a power and skill of Craft which she hadn't seen since the glory days of Eregion. Of course, Saruman was heading east, so she could do little but watch him go.
Over a thousand years later, he returned: still looking old and worn, but with his inner power if possible even stronger. Maethorwen accompanied Cirdan to the formation of the White Council, though of course she wasn't privy to its discussions; but afterwards she offered her service to Saruman. He, already coming up with his own plans, accepted; and when, 300 years later, he took possession of Isengard, Maethorwen went with him.
From Saruman's perspective, she was something of an experiment: he was annoyed that the Eldar didn't succumb to his manipulations and his voice very easily, so he used Maethorwen to test the long-term effects of it. As it turned out, this was a reasonable success - by a combination of flattery, demeaning comments, and magic, Maethorwen ended up doing whatever Saruman wanted, though not always very happily. She mostly hid her anger and disappointment, coming across as emotionless and cold. But when she let it get out, she was still a force to be reckoned with.
I think that's a decent backstory to account for her presence in the badfic, and means she doesn't have to be yet another 'hey, pick a name for yourself' character. Good! Welcome to the DOOCH, Maedhwen Maethorwen.
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That second one... by
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I don't know if the consonant cluster "grw" is allowed in Sindarin. Would it be, rather, Dagorwen?
I'm trying to study up on my Elven languages a little. I've got a fic that I'm pretty sure abuses them, and I'd love to not have to come crying for help too much. {= )
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Well, is because... by
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The word is not Sindarin, dagr is the Noldorin to the Sindarin dagor, in fact, all the names are in Noldorin. And fair enough, I don't know it's allowed in Noldorin either, and my research gave me no definitive answers.
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Aren't Noldorin and Sindarin the same thing? by
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That is, as I understand it, Tolkien originally intended Sindarin to be the language spoken by the Noldor, so he calls it Noldorin in earlier texts. However, he changed his mind and made it the speech of the Grey Elves, so it's called Sindarin instead.
This is according to something I recently read at the Tolkien Gateway, which seems to be pretty reliable.
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Basically, yes. by
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The problem is that Tolkien kept developing his languages, so Noldorin and Sindarin are different - despite being the 'same' language in terms of the Legendarium. Similarly, Quenya and the older Qenya are the 'same' language - but they're completely incompatible.
And of course, the same applies within the languages. 'Quenya' - even Quenya post-dating LotR - kept changing as Tolkien came up with new ideas or tweaked old ones. Any consistent Eldarin language is a construct, taking old words and structures and splicing them into new ones, tweaking them to fit.
(And just for fun: I understand 'Sindar' is a Quenya word. ^_^ Figure that one out.)
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I'm pretty confident... by
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... that no elf would be caught dead saying 'Dagrwen'. It just doesn't feel like a word - and in the Eldarin tongues, that's a key component.
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Yeah, I pretty much got that feeling too... (nm) by
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clarification by
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When I say I remember the site had it as Battle maiden, I am saying the site I found wasn't reliable.
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In Memoriam by
on 2015-02-03 03:34:00 UTC
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Yesterday, we lost Monty Oum. For those of you who don't know, Monty was an animator for the Internet comedy/gaming group Rooster Teeth. He created "RWBY" and had a hand in "Red vs. Blue".
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Sic transit gloria mundi.
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Oh, man. by
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He was only 33 years old, too. That really isn't fair.
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Rest in peace. by
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I may not have seen much of your work, but you have left an undeniable lasting impact on internet and geek culture. You will be missed by many.
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Oh. by
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Wow. That's... Damn.
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Innalillah wa inna ilaihi raji'un. (nm) by
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*raises cup* by
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As a fan of his Dead Fantasy series, I say: May you get abundant meal, mead and feast in Sovngarde/Valhalla/Heaven! Rest in peace Monty Oum!
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*bows head* by
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I might be new to the fandom, but I really liked RWBY... Mr. Oum will be missed.
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That sucks... by
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I've only seen one thing he made (Haloid), but that one thing was pure animated eye candy. I appreciate artistic skill, and it always sucks when an artist dies.
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Random question by
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How would your agents respond to another agent (besides Luxury) being attracted to them? Hey, I said the question was random.
As for my agents... well, Kala's a female character from an ecchi continuum. She's used to people thinking she's sexy. Just don't touch her without her permission.
Valon, on the other hand, wouldn't believe anyone that said they liked him. You might not have caught this, as it's only mentioned in passing, but Valon thinks he looks like a corpse. He'd think that any woman who says otherwise is just trying to mess with him.
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Chris and Ami would be mildly flattered but super-confused. (nm) by
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My pair... by
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Alloy would go comically wide-eyed, consider that this has never happened before, and grab. Smooch. Let go. Consider. "Sorry, I'm not really that into you!"
Ginger would eye them and probably go for a fling if she thought that they were hot. Or drag them cross-continuum bar crawling despite being too young to drink. And probably end up getting into serious trouble. -
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Marvin would be flustered. He would probably try to back out of the situation, as he would not quite know how to handle it. Then again, if the lover was persistent, he would eventually cave and try to treat her as best as he can.
For Printworthy, it would depend on if she was an equine or not. If she was a pony, he would return the compliment, and offer her a nice night out, to try and know her better. If she was not, however, he would be courteous and thankful for their admiration, but respectfully deny any shared feelings towards them. He is a pony, see, and just does not think of other creatures in that way. Non-pony equines would be on a case-by-case basis.
Jumper would just laugh, perhaps flirt a little, then offer to take them on an adventure. Likely while singing "A Whole New World." What happens next... Well, we shall see. -
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Doc pretty much wouldn't notice for a long time. Once he did, he wouldn't really know what to do about it for a while, until eventually, awkwardly, explaining he's aromantic and asexual.
Séverine would assume they were teasing her, and march off, insulted. Even though Yoof is man-size, I'm treating him as a puppyish-age mawg, so he wouldn't notice/know what was happening, and Séverine would keep people like that away from him.
Vania. Urm. I still don't have a very clear idea of her sexuality or romantic nature. I think it's because I lack those things, that I'm having difficulty picking up on hers. Nothing feels right so far, so I don't really have an answer for her. Maybe I'll figure it out as I write her more.
Carline's thing is that she lusts after obscure characters. Not totally sure how that would apply to PPC characters. She either would have no interest for anyone from HQ, or she would only be interested in folks from the less common divisions and departments, like the DOOCH or Finance. Being a Sue at heart, her lust is reserved fro canon characters. -
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I don't see why not. Go ahead, man. (nm) by
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Hm... by
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Gaspard: Take a good look at this guy. Crooked nose, cystic acne and scars all over his face and shoulders, mixed-race, long history of being kicked/punched/robbed/swirlied at school, and hates himself with the intensity of a billion exploding O-class stars. He's decided that he's better off not bothering anybody-- and besides, if someone was into him by now she'd have shown interest or something. Don't expect him to complain about it: after all, big boys don't cry.
Harris: You're not going to get much out of him: he's about as dense as your average neutron star. Couldn't understand if a woman was flirting with him, no matter how hard she'd try. Did she compliment his looks? Why yes, he is having a pretty good hair day today. Did she just give him a box of chocolates and her RC number? Oh, that's nice: she just wants a chat. Did she grab him by the collar and yell out a confession of love to him? She must be tired and stressed out: take a nap, he says. You'll feel better. Repeat ad nauseam.
Penny: She'd be extremely flattered but would have to turn her would-be suitor down because she's already in a stable long-term relationship with...
Nasir: ...who would very bluntly say no to anybody who'd approach him because he's with Penny.
Yakov: He'd jump right into romance-mode. Hopefully he won't come off as "too desperate" this time. Or "too creepy". Or "too weird".
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Well, Cali is in a long term relationship with Cadmar (written by Caddy-shack), and Cali was the one who first had the interest. If it was anyone else, he would blush and stammer and not know what to do. He still does a lot of that with Cadmar (at least as of the last time they appeared in 2012). They are totally still dating in 2015, though.
Agent Miah...I really don't know. She's not particularly interested in sex or relationships, so it would maybe depend on the person.
Kelok is asexual and still deals with trauma from his fic of origin, so he would be immensely uncomfortable and try to escape as soon as possible, and then probably avoid the person and any place he expected them to be.
Unger is kind of a kid, and an immature one at that, so he generally comes across as more mascot material or cute (with a side of arson) than as seriously a potential mate.
Carry on the other hand, is 100% comfortable with sex as a biological imperative and is pretty likely to take them up on the offer, if he thought the other agent was serious with it and that they are also looking at it as a biological imperative. He's not particularly interested in romance and long-term emotional relationships. -
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ELEPHANTS!
In all seriousness:
Randa would probably get a kick out of it, while Rina would think they were just messing with her. She had... bullying issues for most of her life. -
I should probably do Zeb now. :) by
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He'd be extremely taken aback, especially if the person doing the hitting wasn't a Pokémon. ^^; And then he'd very quietly say no. And proceed to run and hide.
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Re: I should probably do Zeb now. :) by
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What if it WAS a Pokémon from the same egg group?
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Depends. by
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And he doesn't really care about egg groups, since he's gay.
If it was a male Pokémon he found attractive, he'd still be taken aback, but he'd probably say yes after a lot of hemming and hawing. -
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Ari would be confused and flustered. A lot.
Theia was romantically involved with Anebrin, at least briefly.
Tera would be probably be interested, though I'm not sure how her species parses romance.
Lana and Riaa'lzhor are in a committed relationship and have been for several years, so they'd likely just let a new person down gently.
Narav is aromantic, I think, and so would probably decline any kind of romantic relationship offers.
Cepha and Amara are going to end up as an item. Amara is one who would probably be quite confused at a stranger being in love with her, and (like Kala, I imagine) would probably react badly to being suddenly touched.
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Hmhr. by
on 2015-02-03 16:07:00 UTC
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Agent!Des would probably blush and stammer, then continue as normal.
Anebrin was romantically involved with another agent.
The Librarian would probably be rather annoyed and would try to avoid that person.
Amris is a drone. A machine. It'll probably be very amused.
Navare, I've no idea.
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Do misspelled titles create minis? by
on 2015-02-03 18:15:00 UTC
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Because in its TV listings from the '70s, the Ethiopian Herald called the eponymous first episode of the First Doctor story The Edge of Destruction "Age of Destruction". It also misprinted a few other episode titles less egregiously.
http://gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Ethiopia
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I reckon so! by
on 2015-02-04 05:14:00 UTC
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I'm pretty sure there are some title minis rescued from missions. Let me see . . .
Yeah, there are some made from the Twilight Saga's title. I'm sure there are other examples, too, buuuut I'm not looking through every Mini page to find them. :) -
Probably not, don't worry about it (nm) by
on 2015-02-03 19:36:00 UTC
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I swear I'm writing missions, but new interlude! by
on 2015-02-03 19:59:00 UTC
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For your reading pleasure.
The reason I'm posting this now is because I'm likely going to finish my first mission with Zeb within a week or two, whereas I don't know how long it will be before the co-writes are done. Anyhow, enjoy! -
I don't do Nuzlockes yet, but... by
on 2015-02-04 04:51:00 UTC
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...man, that's just awful, what happened to Zeb. You have my sympathies. *pats back with talons, taking care not to scratch you or something*
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on 2015-02-04 11:49:00 UTC
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It was a fun mission! Hopefully I'll have it ready and posted by this weekend. :D
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Very nice. I have to admit though, that when when I saw the word Luxray for the first time my first thought was, Is that a misspelling of Luxury?
I missed the whole Pokemon phenomenon by a few years, so I got a chuckle at my own expense there.
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Funny you should mention that... by
on 2015-02-04 11:48:00 UTC
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Half the time, any Shinx (Luxray's first evolutionary stage) I catch is named Sean for the pun factor.
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Cool! Wait... by
on 2015-02-04 03:12:00 UTC
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When did Randa transfer to Bad Slash? Did I miss something during the "My Inner Life" mission?
Anyway, great work. Special mention goes to the scene where Rina and Zeb remember his death. Powerful stuff, man. Probably how I would react if Jackson (Girafarig from my Pearl run who died in Canalave Gym) or Lucy (Fearow from my FireRed run who died in the Celadon Rocket Hideout) or any of my other dead mons showed up at my doorstep IRL/in HQ. :'( -
Does this help? by
on 2015-02-04 11:46:00 UTC
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This takes place after the co-write I'm doing with SkarmorySilver, but we've been having trouble finding time to work on it, and as it so happened I finished up Zeb's first mission last night.
What? I was working on it and the Stu presented himself as... *snorfle* the perfect target.
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Yes, thank you. by
on 2015-02-04 13:59:00 UTC
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And yes, most of my dead mons (in both Pearl and FireRed) did get to be awesome before their untimely deaths. *accepts hugs*
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Nice! by
on 2015-02-03 20:58:00 UTC
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That was a very interesting interlude, and I definitely enjoyed reading it! I'm now looking forwards to the missions! ^^
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Thank you! by
on 2015-02-03 21:02:00 UTC
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The first mission, like I said, is coming along nicely. I'm finally branching into Percy Jackson- I don't know why it's taken me this long to get to it! *glances at the badfic* Oh, right. That's why.
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Percy Jackson? Oh noooo. :( by
on 2015-02-04 13:32:00 UTC
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Actually, I don't know whether to be happy that someone's actually branching into Percy Jackson, or to be sad about the amount of badfics in the fandom. ._.
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Well... by
on 2015-02-04 16:26:00 UTC
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I do have a couple more PJO missions lined up, so maybe the continuum will be able to relax a bit. I feel so bad for those characters... >_>
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Ooooooowwwwwww... by
on 2015-02-03 21:14:00 UTC
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I knew it had to happen eventually, but Percy Jackson badfic... That's probably gonna hurt.
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Shh... by
on 2015-02-03 21:20:00 UTC
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We don't talk about those abominations. Ever.
Technically, it's book verse, but... oh man... the first A/N says the author never read the books. Just the synopses. And it shows. *curls up in a ball and sobs* -
Relax, relax. by
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At least it's not as bad as TSAB DOWNFALL.
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Or.. by
on 2015-02-04 02:11:00 UTC
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As bad as M. Night Shamayalan's ATLA.... *self-neuralyzes*
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That reminds me of a goodfic. by
on 2015-02-04 02:47:00 UTC
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I think it was called "Bring Me All Your Elderly" or something like that. Basically, the ATLA cartoon characters go into the movie to tell their counterparts how to better portay them. Toph comes along and whips the Pebbledancers into shape, Zuko has no idea he's part of a cartoon, and the forth wall might as well not exist. In fact, at one point, Mai spectacularly vaporizes it to atoms. And then vaporizes the atoms.
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Man, I loved that fic. by
on 2015-02-04 04:53:00 UTC
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It's been years since I read it, but it was the best thing to have ever come from that movie. I especially loved how everyone blew the fourth wall clear out of the water while still remaining in character.
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Lord of the Rings-related question by
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Is Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor the horrible badfic-level uncanon mess I think it is because I read its plot's summary, or am I missing something?
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If you want a GOOD LotR game... by
on 2015-02-03 22:53:00 UTC
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... then you should probably listen to Nesh, here! For I am about to tell you about a BAD one.
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age. Released for X-Box/Ps2, and Gamecube, I think. I got this when I was a wee caddy (13ish?) because I love RPGs, I liked Lord of the Rings, and there was only 1 gamestore in the town.
I was very disapointed. Later, I read some interesting articles on why it was bad,which add more to the tale. See, they never got more then the movie license, or something to that degree, thus they could not put stuff in that wasn't in the films. So, while you got to play people /technically/ in the movie canon, and /technically/ were taking part in everything, you have no real impact (and any you do is nonsensical).
You play a generic Gondor soldier, Captain of the Citadel Guard. Promoted for his adherence to heroic archetype, no doubt. You're going to Rivendell to find Boromir, because his dad wants him back. Or maybe he forgot his lunch, frankly it doesn't matter much after this point. You are equipped about as well as a hobbit, and Nazgul are your first opponents. Naturally, you win an- oh wait, they stab you and you get saved by a mysterious Elven female.
Turns out she is Sherlock Holmes, as the sight of Crebain makes her realize Saruman is a traitor, and is attacking a convoy of elves right that instant. You go and help, because the plot says o, and then go look for survivors on Caradhras, of all places. You then encounter a Dunedain Ranger(Rare? Pfft, not at all!) who is looking for his dwarf friend. You manage to track him down in Moria. As it turns ou the Watcher reopens the entrance, trying to get the Fellowship, and you get to run in, then hunt down and kill it.
Then you run around making noise, and killing goblins, and chase after the Fellowship more. Yakkity Sax ensues. Oh, and then you jump in to help Gandalf fight the Balrog on the tiny bridge. Hmm, I don't recall that scene... After you help him win (but he still falls) you follow the Fellowship out, learn Boromir is dead, and you've been wasting time. Both the characters and player.
You then follow their trail to Rohan, where Gandalf gives you the job or finding all of Eomer's men. Then you fight in Helm's Deep, where it turns out Saruman can contorl you to fight several cave trolls at once. I forgot the part where the Uruk-hai had cave trolls. Then it turns out that that Idreal (forgive me for not posting names unless relevent, the characters are shallow and 2-d)the female Elf was sent by Gandalf and Galadriel, who knew Saruman could control you, and was to stop you from taking the ring to him. She's also a love interest.
You then get to fight in Osgiliath,where you fight and beat Goth Mog, and the Witch King (killing neither, naturally, and go to Minas Tirith for soem more excitement. A few dozen fights leter you are fighting two Mumakil at once. On foot. And killing them. And after the ghost army wins the battle? Suddenly you are fighting the Eye of Sauron. On top of his tower. No explanation is given. I never beat him, and never went back to the game.
The characters are all shallow, and they barely evolve past stereotypes. They barely have any downtime talk, to get to know eachother, or really explain why they bother doing what they are doing. The fights are tedious because, as said way above, they reuse the same enemies over and over.
Naturally, the most fleshed out party member is the lead, Berethor. We learn he fled from battle long ago because he was stabbed by a Nazgul stab (before the game, mind. so he was stabbed twice, technically.) So he was banished to Rohan. He fell in love in Rohan with a Shieldmaiden, then Saruman used a spell to make him chase after Boromir to steal the ring and take it to him. Said Shieldmaiden is also in the party. So... like Cloud from FF7, maybe?
Sorry for rambling, it's been a while since I've posted. Point is, LotR: The Third Age isn't very good in any sense. I have heard that Shadow of Mordooooooor has fun gameplay, and interestign mechanics. So if you can ignore the fanficesque story, i could be fun. But yeah, reading about OC Do Not Steal Ranger #35 and his best bud the Wraith taking control of orcs made me cringe. -
It does sound that way. by
on 2015-02-03 21:52:00 UTC
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I haven't played the game or seen it played, though, so I don't know.
If you're looking for a goodfic-quality LotR game, though, check out The Lord of the Rings: War in the North. It takes place during LotR, but entirely separately from the main quest. There are one or two things that make me raise my eyebrows a little, but on the other hand, it's sensible about things like the Great Eagles and Radagast, and it wins a lot more points than it loses in my book. For the most part it slots in quite nicely as a story that could have happened in the world.
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Well lets see.. by
on 2015-02-03 22:53:00 UTC
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Celebrimbor somehow has the ability to mind control orcs, somehow has a family, his family gets killed in front of his eyes and after Celebrimbor is killed, he somehow comes back as a ghost/wraith/whatever, then somehow possesses a Ranger of the North, giving the Ranger somehow the ability to control orcs and somehow Celebrimbor plans to take out Sauron that way...
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Oh, you people and your standards. by
on 2015-02-03 23:29:00 UTC
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Yes, story wise, it does not blend in well to LoTR. However, game play wise, it is amazing. The orc-control mechanic works very well, and the combat feels fluid. Honestly, the amount of detail they add to the orcs should make you interested at least. I would say, if you are willing to put aside pre-consived notions about the canon, it is a very fun game.
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I never said that it was a bad game... (nm) by
on 2015-02-03 23:40:00 UTC
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No, indeed. by
on 2015-02-03 23:46:00 UTC
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However, Des seemed interested in if the game was worth his time. I would say yes, and so would many others. Just wanted to highlight some the positives of the game itself, as it is a wonderful game. It would be a shame to let it go because of some spotty connections to the books.
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Well... by
on 2015-02-04 00:15:00 UTC
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I don't think I'll be buying it any time soon. Too costly, too weak a computer. Plus, playing it would be like reading Descartes: getting up every five minutes to bash your head on the nearest wall.
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True enough. by
on 2015-02-04 00:31:00 UTC
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My friend, who owns a computer that can run it, describes it as being like Batman: Arkham Asylum. What with the takedowns, and stealth and combat-y-ness. Since you're a ranger, then you can just mute the sounds, turn off subtitles, and play some music over the game and assume it's an agent going in after a Sue and all the ORc/baddies are un-canon and just HAVE to go.
Also the Wraith has to come along because we don't need more Not-Nazgul.
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Doublepost because woo: Betas needed by
on 2015-02-03 22:57:00 UTC
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After a while spent doing other things — thankyou, RL! — I’ve finally managed to write something — a cowrite with Firemagic. It’s finished now, and we need betas. Knowledge of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha canon isn’t necessary, though it’s be welcome. What I am looking for, however, is someone who speaks Dutch, so, if anybody here does…
Anyway, interested parties should drop me a mail (sur DOT nhm AT gmail DOT com) so I’ll be able to share the GDoc with them. -
I cannot access HieronymusÂ’s mail account at work by
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I don’t speak Dutch, but I may know somebody who learned to speak Dutch at a German school near the border to Netherlands. So, if you don’t find a better beta reader, I believe you have my address, or you can find it on my Wiki page.
HG
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Whaddaya know? New mission! by
on 2015-02-04 23:36:00 UTC
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I wasn't expecting this to be done so soon, but it turns out the Stu was... well, "He Was Practically Asking For It".
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So much fun by
on 2015-02-07 17:12:00 UTC
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A continuum I don’t know (except for general knowledge of Greek mythology), a new partner from a continuum I know nearly nothing about – and yet, I love this mission.
Two nitpicks, though:
Zeb didn't exactly want to balance on on just one leg,
one of the the best swordsmen
I’ll miss Randa, but I’m looking forward to seeing more of Zeb.
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Fixed, thank you! by
on 2015-02-07 17:21:00 UTC
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...how did those typos happen, though? *shrugs*
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Nice! by
on 2015-02-07 06:17:00 UTC
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I'm not familiar with the continuum, but I didn't have to be to get how messed up the fic was. I just... look, Stu, porn stars are people, too. They go to work to pay the bills just like the rest of us. Just because it involves sex doesn't mean they're obsessed with it to a weird and creepy degree. So knock it off. {= |
Random question: how does Eris, Goddess of Discord, figure into the Percy Jackson universe? I dunno if Discord quite equates to Chaos, but if one were looking for a chaotic, female deity for a parent, one could do worse.
The assassination was brilliant. I completely agree, that target was far too perfect to pass up, and it was hilarious. I don't think it came too soon, either.
There were a few other moments that make me laugh aloud, and the two I recall specifically both involved Zeb being clueless. "Hepatitis" and "fruitcake." ^_^ And hey, fresh, homemade fruitcake can be very good, so there!
Zeb is adorable. It might just be my cat-person's "aw, kitty!" instincts kicking in, cuz Luxrays look a bit feline, but I kinda want to cuddle him. And I'm sure he'd appreciate it about as much as the average cat, too. *rolls eyes*
Since Rina sent him to Jenni in the interlude, I now have a plotbunny where she sets him up to get some canon instruction/newbie training from Ilraen. He's a gentle, compassionate guy, and he knows what it's like to be totally clueless and have to learn the ropes in a hurry—at the hands of a far less forgiving partner, at that! I think they'd get along, and the idea of them walking through the Courtyard having intellectual conversations about books or whatever is a nice picture, isn't it? (Also, I plan for Ilraen to become an agent trainer whenever he retires from the DIC, so whee setting up future character developments.)
... And I have just now remembered reading down-thread that Zeb is gay, and oh my god what would Ilraen even do with a Pokémon flirting with him? I do not suggest this would, could, or should be a thing, but the thought of the sheer amount of awkwardness is making me laugh. {X D
I'mma go to bed now, before I get any more bad ideas.
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Re: Nice! by
on 2015-02-07 14:55:00 UTC
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All the slut-shaming in the fic just made me cringe. It was like the author had this severely twisted view of porn stars. I'm not saying I have any idea what they're actually like, because I certainly don't... but when you know nothing about a subject and can still do a better job portraying it than the badfic, you know something's Not Right.
Eris did have some demigod children in PJO, but she didn't get her own cabin until after the first series was over and Percy made his deal with the gods.
Glad you liked the assassination! I couldn't stop laughing when I read that bit in the badfic... ^_^ It really was just too good to pass up. The Stu really should have known better- I mean, it seemed like the half of the camp that wasn't enamored with him wanted to kill him. *eyeroll*
Hepatitis actually came from a conversation I had with a friend: we were playing hangman and she blurted out hepatitis instead of Hephaestus. I don't think we've referred to him as anything else since. :P It's a miracle we haven't been smited. Smote?
Zeb's so adorkable. I'm going to try and preserve his innocence as long as possible, 'cause it's just so much fun to write. (He'd let you hug him if you asked first. Blowing up tends to make one twitchy.)
That would be so cool if Ilraen showed up! Zeb would appreciate the help- and I don't think Rina ever got to say thank you, so there's that. But retire?? *curls up on the floor sobbing* NOOOOOOOOO
Zeb isn't really into anyone not a Pokémon, but then again, who knows? Andalites are Cool.No I totally don't have a crush on AximiliI think Zeb would be more "ask about ALL THE THINGS" instead of flirting. He's kind of shy as it is, exploding aside. He might make an awkward pass. -
Re: Nice! by
on 2015-02-07 16:31:00 UTC
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Granted, I don't know any porn stars either, but it stands to reason. Most people, by and large, are just people like other people. Switch out the hows and whys all you like, but we all pretty much want the same things: security, wellness, sense of place and purpose, etc. *shrug*
Jenni: *writes prescription* RC 999. Ask for Ilraen. Ignore his partner.
*g* This can be a thing if you want. I dunno if there's enough story for an interlude, and I think we both have a lot of writing on our plates at the moment, but maybe a little journal RP, reply when you feel like it sort of deal?
Don't worry, I'm not planning to retire Ilraen anytime soon. Anyway, he'll still be around, so it's not so bad. {= )
Andalites ARE cool, and Ax was my favorite character, too. My fangirl tendencies run more toward "please let me bask in your awesome presence/take you away from all this pain," not so much crushing, but yeah.
Ilraen actually has a crush on Agent Cinderella (Andalites prefer blondes, this is my headcanon), but since Herr Wozzeck has vanished into the mists of RL, I dunno if anything's gonna come of that. Le sigh. I want him to get a girlfriend—or a boyfriend, even, but that would only end in disappointment when Ilraen figures out he likes girls. Preferably one who's willing to take the lead and be very patient, because Ilraen has no idea how to relationship. ^_^;
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Okay, sent a thing. :) (nm) by
on 2015-02-07 18:19:00 UTC
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Received and responded. by
on 2015-02-08 02:43:00 UTC
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And, if anyone wants to watch: http://rc-999.dreamwidth.org/777.html
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Let's get this thing started! :D (nm) by
on 2015-02-08 14:30:00 UTC
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You mean like on Dreamwidth? by
on 2015-02-07 16:54:00 UTC
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Lemme see if I can remember my password, it's been so long :P
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Great, As Usual by
on 2015-02-06 18:11:00 UTC
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This seemed a little short for you, but I guess that's to be expected considering how recently your last mission came out.
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Really? by
on 2015-02-06 19:55:00 UTC
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I think I've been averaging roughly 25 pages per mission, and this one was 22. But I digress.
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It Was Probably Because of How Soon You Killed the Stu by
on 2015-02-07 01:30:00 UTC
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Usually, that's the big climax, but you had plenty to do after that, so I think I tricked myself into thinking it was shorter than it actually was.
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About the Slain Sues list on the Wiki... by
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Well, you don't find many Sues who are fourteen year-old porn stars. Or who tempt fate to the degree that Roxy did with his target undies.
The list on the Wiki says the process for adding Sues to the list is under review, so I figured I'd post here and ask if Roxy could possibly qualify for the list. -
Oh, you've reminded me! by
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I was going to start a thread to discuss something which should address this. Look for it soon!
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Great, now I'll be checking every five minutes. :P (nm) by
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IMHO, that Stu definitely deserves his own page... by
on 2015-02-05 21:00:00 UTC
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But it could be a troll fic, in which case I'm not really sure if he'd qualify... I'd say you should probably put him on the "Assassination Methods" page, too.
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Ah, now I remember why I love PPC. by
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However, it seems that missions are getting shorter into the story before the charges are laid out. Either badfics gone worse and worse, or it's getting more taxing to write very long missions. I weep for the former, but as for the latter, it may be for the best.
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Well, like I said, by
on 2015-02-05 17:09:00 UTC
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this was just too good an opportunity to pass up. The next one will end up being longer since it takes a while before the really massive canon breaches happen. And Rose Potter will be a six-parter...
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Yes. Yes, he was. by
on 2015-02-05 14:20:00 UTC
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Zeb's cluelessness is the best part, especially with the fruitcake joke :P Good work! I'm looking forward to future installments!
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Thanks! by
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Zeb's so much fun to write. He's adorkable. ^-^ I'm already working on a World of Warcraft fic... It's on the Claimed Badfic list if you want to check it out.
As for Randa, I don't know. She's been transferred into my care, but I don't know. Maybe I'll bring her back for Little Miss Mary, that would be fun. -
Wait, if the fic takes place around "The Last Olympian"... by
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Then the homophobic slurs aimed at Nico don't make much sense, since we don't find out about his orientation until The House of Hades, and even then, it remains secret.
Unless the slurs are just supposed to be insults. I'm not really sure about that... I kinda wanted to look it up in the original fic, but I then realized that the whole "14-year-old porn star" thing would probably get me on some kind of list. -
Don't question the badfic logic... by
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But... huh. That totally slipped my mind. Derp.
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Nice one. by
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That was a skillful job of killing something that could've been really NSFW-y in a way that was still readable. Nice!
And, 'son of Chaos' - um, yeah, no. I'm pretty sure I would've noticed if House of Hades personified Chaos - particularly as a woman. Though I do wonder whether the writer was thinking of Nyx (does she spell it that way, or did Riordan go with Nix? I forget), and got tangled up.
Also: timeline craziness like whoa. If Percy isn't 16 yet, what's Nico even doing at Camp Half-Blood? He ran way after Bianca died, and didn't really come back... uh... ever. Not to mention he not only wasn't openly homosexual - he doesn't seem to have admitted it to himself at that point. (Also, pillar of flame. Wut, Nico. Just, wut.)
One thing I particularly liked: your characterisation of Clarisse just before and after the exorcism. You showed us what 'possessed' looked like, and exactly how it's different from 'normal' - without descending into overkill-levels for either.
(And... hey, if Chaos is 'GAPless', where exactly is Roxy supposed to have... y'know... come out?)
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^.^ by
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If memory serves, it was Nyx. It... would not surprise me if the author mixed them up, considering everything else that happened.
Nico stayed at Camp for a few days after the final battle in Last Olympian, but then he left. I think by the end of the series, he'd spent more time in Camp Jupiter than Camp Half-Blood.
Glad you liked how I handled Clarisse! She's one of my favorite characters, so it made me mad to see her being mishandled like that.
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I love you so much for doing this mission by
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I would hug, kiss you in both cheeks, hug some more, kiss your forehead and then give you a rib crushing hug for good measure, but I'll restrain myself to just give a military salute, you deserve that and more for destroying this piece of dino-poo-poo and send it in a direct line to Tartarus. Lots of respect m'lady.
Regarding the movies... I never got past the 30 minute mark of "The Lighting Thief", I was deeply outraged and disgusted of the way that both source materials were treated, that gave watching it, and have never seen the sequel nor I plan to see it, as far as I'm concerned I see it at the same level of quality than "That-Film-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named".
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What films? Ehehe...
I had a lot of fun taking this one out. And I guess my agents did, too.
Zeb: "Oh, Poffins? For me? Thank you!" *delicately nibbles the Sweet Poffin*
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*plays a funeral dirge on a kazoo* by
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rest now stus,ashes to ashes and glitter to glitter.
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*bows* Thank you for reporting this fic! I had fun with it. (nm) by
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You are welcome by
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Trough i´m worried about the second stu of the fic, i hope he doesn´t show up somewhere else to cause trouble...And that was a great way to kill the stu, very ironic and appropiate,all things considered it made a lot of sense for him to explode into pure glitter.
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Wow. Just... wow. (some NSFW content) by
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Just by the mission, I swear that this badfic has to be a troll! It just has to! Like, seriously, who seriously writes stuff like "[the Stu,] now only in his black-brief-and-printed-with-a-target-sign-in-the-butt undergarment, swayed a little in the air, dancing like some kind of whore-slut devoid of morals"? The author couldn't possibly be serious. I was positively eager for the Stu to die...and you did not disappoint.
Also, good work acclimating Zeb to the PPC. Pardon my slowness (I'm sure you explained it before), but what's happening with Randa (both in-universe and IRL)?
Two issues, though:
First, it looks like you inadvertently made a mini:
She's a daughter of Ares who single-handedly took down a drachon all by herself
According to the Percy Jackson Wiki, the spelling is "drakon." Is it amiss?
Secondly, this line:
Zeb's eyes widened, then narrowed. "That is completely unacceptable!" he said, his voice trembling. "Sexual orientation is nothing to be mocked!"
Being native to the Pokemon universe, how would Zeb have such a liberal view of sexual orientation, much less be so incensed at homophobic slurs? Sexual orientation isn't mentioned at all in the anime, and given the Day-Care's workings, I doubt that homosexual pairings feature in the games either. -
Lessee. by
on 2015-02-05 11:53:00 UTC
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First of all: Corrections! Fixed! Thank you, and as for Zeb's commentary... Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. ^^; Thank you again for pointing those out.
Secondly: I sure hope to the gods it was a troll. This fic... this whole fic... *shivers*
Thirdly: Randa. IRL, we still see each other at school, but very rarely, and I can't remember the last time we were able to hold a good conversation due to time constraints. Since we're most likely going to lose touch after we graduate high school, I decided to go ahead and bring in a new agent, even though she gave me the go-ahead to write agent!Randa. I don't feel totally comfortable writing what is basically her, so agent!Randa will be seen in two more missions (the already-started co-writes with SkarmorySilver and World-Jumper) and then I'm putting her in Bad Slash. -
Well, Pokemon don't die in-game, either... by
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I guess you could consider the universe of Nuzlocke challenges as AUs, in which case some minor canon breaks would be kinda acceptable.
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Regarding Zeb: Yes, he's gay. But I really don't know why I went ahead and had him get all offended, because game mechanics kind of don't allow for homosexuality, and at this point Zeb's still kind of naïve. He finds out about those LOs later. I went ahead and put them on the Wiki because I'm a total derp a fan of completeness. Yes. >_>
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... Okay, I guess it does makes more sense that way. (nm) by
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Regarding Zeb: Yes, he's gay. But I really don't know why I went ahead and had him get all offended, because game mechanics kind of don't allow for homosexuality, and at this point Zeb's still kind of naïve. He finds out about those LOs later. I went ahead and put them on the Wiki because I'm
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Huh. Sorry about the funky double post. (nm) by
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My evening has been made. by
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As a diehard fan of the books (and the movies, to a... lesser extent), I wholeheartedly approve of this. I do agree that the films weren't exactly faithful to the source material, but at least they were, well, tolerable. In my opinion, anyway.
Needless to say, the arrow up the Stu's butt was my favorite part. The title of this mission pretty much says it all. X'D -
Hehe. by
on 2015-02-05 02:53:00 UTC
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Come on, you don't wear target-printed undies when PPC agents are around. You really are asking to get shot.
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Oh man, learning to walk. by
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I imagine that Kala would have it even worse than Zeb does. He at least still has four limbs before and after being disguised; Kala's used to having TWELVE, not to mention a much larger and more stable body.
Great mission, though I admit my PCO knowledge is limited to the first movie. -
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You really should read the books. The
crapfestmovies were unfortunately quite horrible.
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So I just picked up Lightning Thief from the library. by
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I find myself pondering the same thing I was during the movie.
Namely, Poseidon isn't just the god of the sea. His portfolio also contains earthquakes and horses.
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Horses, yes. It's a major plot point in a lot of moments, especially those that involve travel or even reconnaissance. I can't remember if the earthquake thing was ever brought up, but it would make sense.
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Earthquakes (spoilers, Voyd) by
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They mention that Poseidon can create earthquakes, but Percy doesn't get that ability— probably because he's already a powerful enough demigod as it is.
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Yeah... by
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Valon freaks out over physical contact with women. He desperately tries to avoid doing anything that could get him labeled at a creep or pervert.
This despite the fact that he does like hugs... usually, he'll just go for the nearest mini rather than risk offending someone.
Even without knowing the source material, I thought something was off based on Greek Mythology in The Lightning Thief. I'm pretty sure the Hydra was a nonsapient beast, and that Hades and Persephone were the happiest married couple among the gods.
... I may or may not be a mythology nut.
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The Lotus Eaters by
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Annabeth saved them in the book. The movie made her useless. On the movie alone, it's pretty okay, but with its butchering of the book and especially Annabeth it just gah.
(I had to watch the whole thing because my school was playing it.)
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In the book, Percy was the one who saved them from the Lotus Eaters. He had to snap Annabeth out of the spell by telling her about spiders. But yes, the movie made her pretty much the Token Chick instead of the Badass Bookworm she is in the books.
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Huh. by
on 2015-02-05 12:14:00 UTC
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I remembered her snapping people out... did she drag Grover out of it?
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She and Percy both saved Grover. by
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And she's the one who did ultimately get them out, because Percy nearly fell back under the spell when they were about to leave.
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Mythology nut? *high fives* by
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Yeah, the hydra that showed up in The Sea of Monsters book was much closer to its mythological counterpart than ghe fire-breathing one in The Lightning Thief movie. Also, the movie basically took this awesome quest to stop Hades, save the world and Percy's mom, and retrieve the Master Bolt and turned it into a Fetch Quest for
Plot CouponsMacGuffinspearls. I could rant all day about the movies, though, so I'll just stop now.
Ironically enough, Hades and Persephone had one of the better godly marriages, especially considering the circumstances surrounding the arrangement. If I ever came across a mention of either of them being unfaithful to the other, I can't think of it.
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Well, be fair. Or, uh, unfair. by
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Did you ever come across a mention of Hades doing anything after his abduction of Persephone? Much like his fellow non-Olympian-child-of-Kronos (Hestia), he doesn't get a lot of mention in mythology.
Persephone, on the other hand, did - but mostly in a Mystery context, which we no longer have. I doubt they discussed her marriage very much, though.
While I'm on the subject, and contradicting myself: did anyone else get the impression Persephone wanted to stay in the Underworld? I'm looking at sentences like this:
But he on his part secretly gave her sweet pomegranate seed to eat, taking care for himself that she might not remain continually with grave, dark-robed Demeter.
(Homeric Hymn to Demeter, courtesy Theoi)
'Secretly'? That doesn't imply 'forced', and it doesn't imply 'without her knowing what it would mean'. To me, it strongly suggests 'without her mother's knowledge' - ie, it was a secret plan between Persephone and Hades. And that description of Demeter offers a reason, too - particularly since 'grave, dark-robed' is more the way you'd expect to see Hades described.
(And yeah, she later says he 'secretly' put it in her mouth and 'forced her to taste' - but she also doesn't mention this until Demeter specifically asks. I reckon she's just lying. ^_^)
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D'arvit, that should be PJO. (nm) by
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A proposition for discussion: PPC Fic Awards? by
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Hi, guys! I've mentioned here and there that I've been working on an idea, and I think I've gotten about as far as I can with it on my own, so it's time to share. Basically, it's what it says in the subject: some sort of annual PPC Fic Awards ceremony.
Why?
Basically, two main reasons:
1. It could be fun! It's always nice to get recognition, and I'd personally love to see stories get remembered and discussed beyond their publication announcement threads.
2. It could be a way to solve a problem that's gone unresolved for too long: How do we nominate new pages for a place in the Slain Mary Sues category on the wiki?
Why Not?
I foresee a few potential problems we'll need to sort out if/when we decide to do this:
1. Who's going to run it? I don't want to do it every year, so we'll have to figure out how to appoint a Master of Ceremonies or some such.
2. What if people try to shoehorn X thing(s) into their stories just to get nominated for X category/ies, or treat it as some sort of checklist? That would suck.
3. What if the same people get nominated all the time and the same people don't? That would also suck.
How?
Something like this would need a system of categories and rules for nomination. I have a few ideas:
Rules
1. It's an annual thing, so only fics posted in the last year can be nominated.
2. No one may nominate their own work.
3. A story may be nominated in more than one category.
4. Only one winner in each category. Second and third place in a category may be granted if there are enough nominees.
5. A story needs at least X nominations/seconds to qualify. (Three, maybe?) The first nominator must supply a link to the story and tell us why they nominated it. (We're looking for more than "I just really like it," ideally.)
6. Once all qualifying nominations are in, a vote will be held to determine first, second, and third place. Probably on something like Google Surveys to keep it neat. (I'm thinking the whole process should take maybe a week.)
7. Anything else?
Categories
* Best Newcomer - Best story by a PPCer who just got Permission in the last year.
* Best New Spin-off - Best first chapter in a spin-off established this year by someone who got Permission more than a year ago.
* Best New Episode - Best new chapter in a spin-off established more than a year ago.
* Best Mission (Action) - Best story concerning the adventures of action agents in the field.
* Best Mission (Infrastructure) - Best story concerning the adventures of infrastructure agents in their job.
* Best Interlude - Best story concerning any PPC agents/characters outside of work.
* Best AU - Best story set outside the main continuity, such as Ten Years Hence stories and Trans-Canonical Fictional Defence Agency stories. (All others are assumed to take place in the main timeline, past or present.)
* Best Assassination - The story with the most creative/funny/original/satisfying Mary Sue death.
* Best Exorcism - As above, for exorcisms.
* Best Takedown - As above, for missions not involving assassinations or exorcisms. (It happens, theoretically!)
* Most Memorable Suvian - For the story containing the Sue/Stu that still makes us laugh/cry/vomit the most. The winner or possibly the top three would get a page in the Slain Mary Sues category.
* Any others? Or are these too many or too redundant?
So... that's what I've got. What do you all think? I've pretty much already said my piece here, so I may not talk a whole lot more, especially since I don't want this to be My Thing. I have enough Things. I'll jump in if I have anything else worth saying, though.
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Yep, love love love the idea! ^_^ (nm) by
on 2015-02-08 01:11:00 UTC
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You had me at 'It could be fun!' by
on 2015-02-06 18:15:00 UTC
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I think it's an excellent idea.
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Fic awards? by
on 2015-02-06 16:56:00 UTC
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Judging from the fact that it seems to be about PPC fiction, perhaps a better name would be PPC Story Awards. I was momentarily confused when I first read your post, and thought it was about our favorite fanfiction in general.
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I like where this is going. by
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I think we should have it in June, when most people's school years/semesters are winding down
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I Agree With This Idea by
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As someone in college, June or July seems like it would be the most convenient time so people can finish missions if they couldn't during the school year.
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Is everyone cool with June? by
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I was thinking January for simplicity, but whatevs. People might need time to read the stories up for vote, so more free time for students is a good idea.
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Summer holidays and all that.
.../eyeballs previous sentence/ Wait, holidays? Since when am I British? I thought we said 'vacation' around here.
But yes. As a student myself, I fully support the timing.
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Lilly's been rubbing off on you, hasn't she? (nm) by
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...quite possibly, yeah. by
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Hi, by the way! Haven't seen you in ages. How're things?
(I will make a returnbie post, I will make a returnbie post...just as soon as I decide on a clever way to do it, anyway.../sigh/)
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Oh, so far, so good. by
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In college now. It's fun so far, though 17 credits make things busy. I have released a total of 0 missions since I saw you last, though the crossover with Iximaz is going wonderfully. On the whole, things have been a lot worse.
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That's good to hear! by
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I'm glad you're enjoying college! That's always a good thing. I can definitely sympathize with the many credits, though, as I'm doing that too this year (I'd tell you how many credits, but I expect we count credits a little differently at my school, so the number would probably horrify you). Crossovers going well also=a good thing.
Me, I've been busy. So much so that I've been away long enough to actually feel qualified to make a returnbie post /headdesk/. Don't think I've done that before. I've also been a Boarder for two years now! That's exciting! And there are a whole bunch of other things that I meant to post about months ago and...didn't. In my defense, I did take an exhausting but fascinating course abroad over the winter break.
And, in my last bit of news, I'm still writing (both for the PPC and not), and I am very ready for it to be reading week (unfortunately, there's still a week to go). Up Canada!
/jumps out the window and onto a snowy moose/
/jumps off the moose and runs back inside for warm things/
Silly idea, that, really...
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Wow, two years? by
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(Also, take this plate of Returnbie SPaGhetti!)
I could have sworn you've been around longer, though that could be my technically-newbie-ness kicking in... -
Note to self: finish My Little Unicorn mission by June. by
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Also, finish any mission by June.
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I'm fine with June. (nm) by
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June's good by me. (nm) by
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YES. (nm) by
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I'd like to nominate this post for the "Best Idea" category. (nm by
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Nice! by
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Sounds like a good idea, you certainly thought it out.
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I like it! by
on 2015-02-05 22:43:00 UTC
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As for 'Who's going to run it/ What if the same people get nominated' thing, maybe if at least one of your stories won last year, they can't be nominated this year? But then that would potentially cut out some great missions for nomination... I'd need to think about that.
As for 'what if people try to shoehorn in X things', I think the best we could do would be to rely on the honor system. Still, I think attempted shoehorning would be obvious enough.
Other than those potential problems you mentioned, it sounds like a lot of fun!
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This sounds like a fun idea!
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DIA equipment question by
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Is it ever specified what type of gear DIA patrol officers carry with them? I'd expect them to wear a kevlar vest (or better) and have flashlights, radios, cuffs, and a sidearm with them-- but is there a spinoff with a more detailed description? Is there even a standardized uniform for the DIA? I'd assume so since it's a police force in HQ...
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It's not been described, no, but some thoughts. by
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DIA's patrol division is equivalent to a modern World One police force in a lot of ways, much like how special response is basically equivalent to a SWAT team. They're less militarised in a lot of respects, but HQ is a beat where everyone there is armed and knows how to use their weapons, plus when an agent snaps it usually gets really messy really quickly, so the DIA's patrol officers are armed and trained accordingly. By necessity, patrol and special response (who have more specialised training of course) officers need to be equipped to deal with any internal or external threat that may pop up, and proficient enough in a confrontation to resolve the incident with minimal harm to themselves or innocents (for lack of a better term, in HQ...).
As for equipment, I imagine there's some variance depending on the needs of the specific officer, and versatility is prized due to the sheer diversity of agents - your kit needs to work just as well on a Discworld troll or whatever as a human, though I imagine if something like a Saiyan or Kryptonian flips out and starts smashing heads patrol's orders are damage control and basically just distraction until special response and/or the Raiders get there. The general guideline is body armour (probably better stuff than kevlar but I never thought on specifics, I imagine this is somewhat up to the individual officer but there are guidelines to follow - it has to be subtle, fitting under the uniform or whatnot instead of DIA officers marching around looking like Imperial Stormtroopers, and strong enough to ward off stuff like sword blows and gunshots without harming the officer too much; super heavy armour is probably for when the DIA needs to crack down on a particularly big problem), the stuff you said (torch, radio, cuffs, etc), sidearm (something that can quickly incapacitate without killing is preferred - I imagine a lot of DIA patrolmen swear by Star Wars blasters or Star Trek phasers since those have stun functions as well as bigger deal functions for when stunning stops being an option, and HFA wands - or the real deal for any officers from Potterverse - would also be handy), and also a portal device so they can get around quickly. While DIA officers are probably trained to navigate HQ, they also need to be able to respond to a crisis within a moment's notice, so being able to zero in on some coordinates and portal right over would be a godsend. The DIA probably has access to at least one HQ map, too, it'd just make sense, but I've been divided on whether to have it just be one big one in DIA Central or to have officers walk around with a gadget that can call up a map hologram like a fancy, HQ-specific GPS. Of course, the map is a moot point for the New Caledonia officers, so they wouldn't have that gadget. Central has an armoury any officer can access, and some guidelines as to equipment standards, but as long as an officer can make it work - and of course, there's mandatory training time to ensure competency - Lieutenant Andretti and the Tiger Lily probably aren't too fussed about what's "standard issue" among Patrol Division.
These are just my first thoughts right off the top of my head, and of course DIAers who need to respond to a specific type of situation are likely to go back to Central and get what they need if they don't have it on hand right at that moment, but I hope it's helpful; I can elaborate further on stuff if you like. I've put a good bit of thought into this stuff, the only reason I haven't written too much on the DIA is due to lack of time/ideas/having a bunch of other projects going. And if you want help bouncing stuff around, pretty sure you know my email; always glad to help out. -
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I'll be sure to message you if I need some more in-depth stuff: I do indeed have your email.
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Paging firemagic + Valentine's Day event? by
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There's still three turns left for the PPC New Year's Gift Exchange (OP here), and firemagic is currently in play... It's been a month since I started this thing, so I wonder if we can finish it.
And on the subject of holidays, Valentine's Day is coming up... Are there any planned PPC Board/Other Board events for that day? I'm pretty sure it would be fun to see what kind of Valentine's stuff you guys could come up with, e.g. LOs, agent shipping, and the like. If there *aren't* any, I wonder what would be a fun Valentine's Day event or game to set up?
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...this really just makes me want to write a VDay gone wrong by
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I mean, that would be pretty funny...
Ah well. I doubt I actually have the time to write that right now, but...I guess we'll see!
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I've got a Valentine's Day release. by
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Not an event, though. A straightforward RP is probably the easiest option - it's basically 'fire and forget', if you can come up with a premise. More complex events, naturally, take more time out of the starter.
One suggestion, if people were interested, would be 'the ships you want to see': list the ships you'd love to read but have never seen (crossover or in-canon), and people can wander through and see if anything inspires them to write it. It'd basically be a 'stuff about us PPCers' thread, with the possibility of stories wandering in over the next month or so.
("But that would mean the stories weren't in the same thread as the beginning!" Yes, I know. That's how we did the first Shipfest, y'know. ;) In this case, since the stories would be full-fledged fanfic, they could simply be legitimate plugs which mention they were inspired by the thread)
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I like this idea! (nm) by
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New Mission by
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A trio of Stus are Experiencing a Significant Gravitas Shortfall in this new mission, in which Agent Ari of DIC takes newbies Navare and Amris on a training mission (ha!) to the Nanohaverse.
So, I finally managed to write something, which is a co-write with Firemagic - I probably wouldn't have gotten off my ass and done anything without her, so lots of thanks!
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Is that a Culture drone?
Is that a CULTURE CHARACTER in the PPC?
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Yep. by
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Amris is, indeed, a genuine Value 1.0 Culture Drone. I've been toying with this idea for some time, and finally introduced the bloodthirsty ball o' fun.
I think that makes three of us - I know for a fact Hieronymus Graubart read Consider Phlebas - but that's about it. That's my second obscure fandom here, I guess.
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Heh, that's weird. by
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I didn't know about the Culture series until just a few days ago, when SpaceX renamed their landing barge "Just Read The Instructions". A pretty freaky coincidence... I blame the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
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I'll get the drug bowls! =] by
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Though this makes me wonder what a Culture mini would look like. Prolly a mini-GOU with an attitude problem. Might even be a mini-Mind, which would be all manner of fun and jolly japes... >=]
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Well... by
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From what I've seen, Culture fanfic is basically nonexistent. There are two meh crossovers in ff.net and a few things in AO3, but that's about it.
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ISTR a Harry Potter crossover, of all things. The Harry-resembling fleshheap in the story had a go at the Sorting Hat, 'cause he was raised by the Culture instead of the Dursleys and, well, I kind of agree with their stance on telepathic rape. =]
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Wait, what? by
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A Harry Potter crossover? Can I have a link, please?
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Well, if you wanna... by
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Here you go.
Be warned: with the old nostalgia goggles on, I remember it as being on the bad side of mediocre, and it's a deadfic. Oh well. Enjoy! =] - Oh, also. by on 2015-02-09 00:05:00 UTC Link to this
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-sighs- (swearing inside) by
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Why did I ask. Of course it has a nonsensical premise that ...s up with Culture canon.
...'s sake, Harry's an Excession?! What's wrong with this karking author?!
Diziet Sma, surprised at a flying motorcycle. Riiiiight. Next thing, Chiark Gevantsa Jernau Morat Gurgeh Dam Hassesse surprised at a Stricken game-piece. Diziet Sma on Earth with the wrong ship about twenty years two late. Skaffen-Amtiskaw with her for some reason. What.
...'s sake, Diziet Sma, having Contact's interests in mind? Whaaat.
Uncanonical Potterverse majeck. Woo.
Harry Potter, famous in the whole Culture? ... the flying what? Even Jernau ...ing Morat ...ing Gurgeh isn't that famous!
So, Fal 'Ngeestra doesn't exist. ... you, author, did you even read Consider Phlebas?
Okay, I decree this fic ...ing badfic for not having a clue on how the Excession works.
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It hurts even more considering that I would actually like it if Dumbledore were less evil, Harry were less overpowered and this magical car felt less unmagical, not to mention the Ron bashing and the Slytherin bashing that would apparently come up if this were continued.
Obviously I don't know enough about the Culture to see the uncanon there.
Is Fal 'Ngeestra a Referrer? I remember what she did in Consider Phlebas, but I don't remember what it's called.
Is Upper-Jumping what the House-elves do when they apparate at Hogwarts? I would appreciate this much more than upper-jumping Harry, but from what I found on Wikipedia, only Excessions should be able to use the upper hyperspace layer, and nobody actually knows what an Excession is besides being incredibly powerful and dangerous.
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Yes. In fact, Fal 'Ngeestra is the Referrer that appears in Consider Phlebas.
Actually, normal ships can use Ultraspace ("upper" hyperspace). The Excession is special because it's connected to both Ultraspace and Infraspace ("lower" hyperspace) at the same time.
The point is that the Excession is really, really special, and making Harry one, then ignoring the consequences... let's say it made my mind melt. -
Like I said, goggles of nostalgia firmly in place. by
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I'm re-reading it now. It is a pile of dog eggs roughly the size of a GSV. The Potter stuff just does not mesh with the Culture stuff in the setup provided, and it's all bloody wrong anyway. Also, check the Author's Notes. Evidently they take about as well to criticism as a nipple to an angle grinder, and they admit to serious timeline violations for the benefit of their stupid, stupid, stupid, STUPID idea.
I get that Harry Potter being raised by the Culture is interesting. I like that bit. I like, upon the reread, almost nothing else. It's yet to give me my ultimate bugbear of manipulative!Dumbledore, but knowing my luck it was probably being foreshadowed. God, this was atrocious. Badfic recommendation seconded. Launch all fighters. -
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To quote myself: "Harry's a Glauronging EXCESSION
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS KARKING GRINEER SKOOM AUTHOR"
No, honestly, it's like making Harry the One Ring or something. I think my brain just melted.
I certainly won't be able to spork it by myself. a) It's long and b) I'll be spending too much time trying to bash my head on the nearest wall.
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Well, gimme a bit... by
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I'll get the first draft of my second mission done (!) and put something together. This is a much more traditional mission than what I've planned for Wobbles and the Notary to be exposed to, because what kind of author would I be if I didn't send them into vile hellscapes unfit for sentient habitation?
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Hrmhr by
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I imagine that it would be agent!Des who would be tortured in this mission. Childhood and all that. Notary would have the Librarian to have fun with. Isn't that enough?
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"Fun?" by
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"Though I do not wish to speak ill of a fellow Councillor, I find it quite unthinkable that spending time around that renegade would be enjoyable, particularly not while having to suffer through a universe populated by a bunch of jumped-up indolents content to be the puppets of bickering overgrown fax machines."
"Aw, you're just sore 'cause he was in the front row for the gunge tank-"
"Human this conversation does not concern you it concerns private Council business that may have a deleterious effect on the personal safety of multiple Councillors do not talk about the gunk tank go away go away GO AWAY!"
"... Morgan was right, you don't need to breathe, do you-"
"SHOO! Shoo before I get the push broom!"
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Yes, fun. by
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You two are going to be nice. You two are going to be quiet. You are not going to bicker. Otherwise I'll take my axe and chop-chop-chop you.
-Agent Des
{Note added by 0.4342944819.console.192.168.2.1.External: Notary, just this once: get some common sense and don't provoke him any further. He is actually pretty scary with that deranged look on his face. -Librarian} -
"..." by
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"... Fine. Fine! I will abide by your axe-wielding diktat, Agent, if the Ruby Shipwright consents to do so as well."
"Aw, don't be down, Agent Noble Beast! I know what'll cheer you up! A balloon spy suit!"
"I find that distinctly unlikely to work."
"Oh, well, okay. I mean, you do already have one."
"What in the name of Rassilon are you talking about?"
"You know, the balloon spy suit in your closet! The little black one with all the zippers! Gotta say, the colouring on those is amazing, it's a really high-quality bit of rubber work-"
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*enters RC holding a tray with a teapot and some cups* by
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"Did someone here ask for some jasmine tea or I'm in the wrong RC?"
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The Librarian pointed at his partner... by
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... who was hitting his head on a wall. "I do not believe anybody here ordered a cup of tea, but he could certainly use one - if you can pry him from the wall, that is. The mission that is currently displayed on our console made him somewhat lose his composure."
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*takes a look at the man hitting his head on the wall... by
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...then back to The Librarian* Well... *the blue-eyed pale asian-looking girl with blonde-dyed-that-used-to-be-black hair scowled* I could, but I would need water. A lot of water, like about 15 gallons or more.
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"That's a lot of water." by
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"I'm afraid that would ruin my clothes," the Time Lord said, "and the books, too." He motioned at the bookcases lining the RC's walls.
A mini-Reaper that was hiding in one of the dark corners near the ceiling swept down and began to gesticulate wildly.
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*snorts and chuckles a little* by
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"Don't worry about that. I'm a Waterbender from the Avatar-verse. Before any comment on my looks; Republic City; child from what in World One call a "mixed race marriage" and yes, I like dyeing my hair. Hmm, now that I think about it, probably your friend over there..." points at Agent!Desdendelle, then raises her voice so he can hear her "...will not like being encased in a block of ice."
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"You really shouldn't have said that." by
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The Librarian glared at the Technician. "We're trying to calm him down, not provoke him! I, for one, have no desire to waste a regeneration in order to discover how being axed feels like. Can't you just mention the tea to him?"
Fortunately, Agent Desdendelle seemed not to notice the conversation; he was hitting his head on the wall and mumbling to himself.
A small, blue vacuum cleaner - tinky winky the mini-Noo-Noo - nudged Des' foot and was kicked across the room for its trouble.
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"Well, he didn't seem to notice, most fortunate because I'm not carrying any water with me, besides the tea." Looks at the tray and sighs "And it would be such a waste to use this jasmine tea prepared with the recipe of the legendary teashop The Green Dragon from Ba Sing Se for waterbending." Turns to The Librarian, "By the way, my name is Shui-Hua Liu, nice too meet you... err... What was your name again?
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"The Librarian. Agent Librarian, apparently. Jade Warden of the Continuity Council of Gallifrey-in-Exile by need."
His partner perked at the mention of tea - it must've gotten past the self-inflicted headache. "Tea? Where?! Gimmie that!"
He snatched the tray and - with surprising delicacy - set it on the table. He leaned and sniffed the tea. A moment passed, and he sat down. The Librarian released the breath he did not notice he was holding.
Agent Des sipped the tea. He gave Shui-Hua a bleary look. "God of Tea will bless you," the be-goateed human mumbled. -
*releases her breath too* by
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"I'm sure that the Dragon of the West, the creator of that brew; would had thanked your compliments." Technician Liu bows in a greeting,"Well Agent Librarian is nice to--" Opens fully her eyes in a surprised expression, when realization hits her. "Wait, Gallifrey? Y-y-y-y-y-you are a Time Lord? By the Spirits! What can you tell about, about your people's technology? How does it work? How could I get a Sonic Screwdriver? Do you have a---" Suddenly stops her geek-out, "Wait... Response Center #2184 is not occupied, right?"
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"Calm down." by
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The Librarian's tone was that of a person who just returned home to find his dog eating the sofa. "Yes, I am a Time Lord. No, I am not an engineer. I am a Librarian, if the name didn't clue you to that fact. I have no idea how you can get a Sonic Screwdriver - what would you need it for, anyway?"
"This ain't RC #2184," Des interrupted the Librarian's rant. "This is RC log10e, as the sign on the door states." He took another sip and sighed. "Fukken badfic." -
"I realized that much when I heard both of your voices" by
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Said Technician Liu ignoring The Librarian's rant and gazing at Agent Des, "I just get the feeling that the RC in question in not occupied and I got a prank call for someone asking tea for that RC," she sighs, "So much for trying a side tea brewing business, along my workload at T&A."
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Well done! by
on 2015-02-06 20:05:00 UTC
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I'm afraid I don't know anything about either continuum either, but it was still enjoyable! The Reality Room execution was my favorite part. *tosses cakefetti*
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Well, there's only one continuum in play, as far as I can tell. Admittedly the Nanoha canon barely plays a role in the fic, but still..
Also I'm glad you liked the execution! I like writing fight scenes.
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(Didn't notice you'd replied! And I was thinking the idea of a cowrite would be that I would bring Nanoha knowledge and you would bring Pokemon knowledge and it'd work that way?)
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Perhaps I can help! by
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I'm fairly familiar with the anime (I watched quite a lot of the original series episodes as a kid, along with the Diamond/Pearl anime and some Black/White), and I frequently lurk around Bulbapedia so I'll be able to catch anything else.
So if you really want the fic in question dead, I could be of some use. Since it's a crossover, though, I'll probably have to have my DIC team set up first, but I'd love to co-write with Ari and Tera nonetheless! -
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Though, your Rashida and Falchion are in Floaters. So they could do a crossover mission.
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Re: Sounds good! by
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True, but I already have quite a few missions slated for those two, and I don't want to create a backlog for them; besides, my upcoming DIC team could use a few missions themselves (I've found only two crossovers for them to tackle so far, and I could certainly use more).
We can talk more about this through PM. My e-mail is, of course, skarmorysilver at gmail dot com (plug in punctuation as needed). -
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Ok then. I shall make a GDoc with the fic copied over and we can talk about it there.
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Well... by
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The fix also looks like it's anime-based, and my knowledge of Pokemon really only covers the games (though I know those inside and out). I probably ought to put that on my profile...
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Oh, I see.
If it's not too weird to say, I'd still like to do a cowrite with you? I feel like there might be some fun stuff with the Ari/Theia/Tera group and your Agents. -
Sure! by
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I'll keep an eye out for something good!
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Hm, well by
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There's this thing...
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10750593/1/Mythical-Magi -
>:U by
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WHY DOES THIS EXIST DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE-
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Should I make a GDoc for this and send it to you?
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Sure! by
on 2015-02-06 23:18:00 UTC
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Email's artemis(dot)hunt(at)att(dot)net.
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Sent! (nm) by
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Good work! by
on 2015-02-06 19:15:00 UTC
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I'm glad you got to write something less brain-breaking than your other missions :)
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Not familiar with either of the two continua, but this was pretty fun to read! *tosses congratulatory Spikes*
I did spot a typo, however... the Berserk Defence Programme of the Book of Darkness would appear and would be obliterated by the Asura’s Arc-en-ciel cannon
Shouldn't there be a period at the end of that sentence? Uh... -
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Attention Zelda fans! by
on 2015-02-07 04:06:00 UTC
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We might be getting a new Zelda TV show! Hopefully they'll be able to make the weirder aspects like Cuccos and the hookshot work right.
Thoughts? Squeals of delight? Gratuitous references to the original cartoon? -
Well aren't Cuccos just chickens? (nm) by
on 2015-02-09 00:29:00 UTC
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EVIL chickens, but yes. by
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Now that I think about it, the Gorons and Zoras (if they show up) would be a lot harder to get right.
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Oh, lord. by
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>Live action
>Link is involved
>Link will have to speak at some point to avoid looking like the insane kleptomaniac pot-smashing hero we know he is
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It's Young Link, we'll be fine. (nm) by
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Hmm... by
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I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, Netflix has yet to disappoint on their new original series. On the other hand, the original cartoon's reputation will be quite difficult to overcome. This has a lot of potential, though - the article compared it to a family-friendly Game of Thrones, so perhaps we will get a glimpse of how Hylian politics truly work. Also, I'm sad that the show has already lost a potential big name: Robin Williams. He was one of the biggest fans of LoZ in existence, and something like this would have been right up his alley. His daughter Zelda shared his love of the series, so perhaps she'll have some input after all - from what I've heard, the both of them talked about potential roles with Nintendo frequently. Robin was the go-to guy to play Professor Oak if needed, for example.
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Well, lookie there. by
on 2015-02-07 15:05:00 UTC
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I guess I'll have to get started on the games at long last, won't I? If this is going to be a thing, we're going to see a fanfic explosion, I'll bet. But still, it sounds cool (hopefully better than what I heard the cartoon was like).
...drat, I bet Randa went ahead and deleted my save file on her Ocarina of Time game. Off to find myself a copy! ...and then I'll have to finish my copy of Twilight Princess, and play Wind Waker, and borrow Darkotas' copy of Skyward Sword... This is going to take a while, isn't it?
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Hey, at least, it can't be worse than the first one. by
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... NO, WAIT! That's not what I-- It's too late, isn't it? sigh!
Seriously, though, I think it's going to be decent, at the very least. Netflix usually makes good series, and since they're actually working with Nintendo, they probably won't make the same mistakes as the original show. -
Well, ex-CUUUUUSE me, Netflix! by
on 2015-02-07 04:54:00 UTC
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In all seriousness, though, I'm a bit skeptical myself - but if this turns out to be true, and more importantly if they do it well, my armor bird screech of ecstasy will probably be heard for miles. Especially if Nintendo is helping to produce it, because that way you can be sure they'll be faithful to the franchise.
For my taste, I personally think it would be fun to see something like this introduce brand-spanking new characters, like they did with Lana from Hyrule Warriors.
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More questions about elves. by
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Sorry to annoy everyone with my questions about elves from Middle-Earth, but I truly don't want any major Canon Breaks in the fic that I'm writing. Now I have some questions about their capabilities, that have been bugging me out for a while.
1.- What are the limits of their physical capabilities?
2.- How do their spiritual/magical/mental/supernatural abilities work?
3.- Could the transformations shown by Galadriel & Thranduil in the Movieverse be related to those above mentioned abilities?
4.- Could any elf, from any kind, be able to use everything mentioned above? If not; which kind can use which abilities and which are unique to Ringbearers?
I think those questions cover all my concerns for the time being. Plausible hypothesis are accepted for answers, when canon ones are unavailable. And sorry again for being such pain with my hard questions. XD -
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1/ As far as physical strength and endurance goes, the upper limit is probably Fingolfin's battle with Morgoth:
But at the last the King grew weary, and Morgoth bore down his shield upon him. Thrice he was crushed to his knees, and thrice arose again and bore up his broken shield and stricken helm. But the earth was all rent and pitted about him, and he stumbled and fell backward before the feet of Morgoth; and Morgoth set his left foot upon his neck, and the weight of it was like a fallen hill. Yet with his last and desperate stroke Fingolfic hewed the foot with Ringil, and the blood gushed forth black and smoking and filled the pits [left by] Grond. ('The Silmarillion', Chapter 18)
Morgoth, at this point, is huge - he's described as a like a tower, or a stormcloud. But Fingolfin not only survived - and got back up from - three blows from this giant - he also survived having Morgoth step on his neck long enough to cut his foot, and deeply. So that speaks well for both strength and endurance.
Switching to the Third Age, we find Legolas wanting to keep running in Rohan after a full day, when Gimli is exhausted (and ignore what the movies say: dwarves are quite clearly built for endurance). He was also the only one not borne down by the troubles on Caradhras - though that might have been more to do with being able to run on top of the snow.
Switching to another famous elven ability - sight - there's a lovely article which goes into detail on that. Suffice to say that Legolas would be able to notice within under ten minutes the motion of Mars against the starfield - a human would have to wait ten hours.
2/ "... this is what your folk would call magic, I believe; though I do not understand clearly what they mean; and they seem to use the same word of the deceits of the Enemy. But this, if you will, is the magic of Galadriel." (LotR II, Chapter 7)
I'm glad you're not asking about all magic in Arda - that one's a really tricky subject. But as to the elves, there are... maybe five kinds of 'magic':
a) The Light of Valinor, as seen on Glorfindel in Fellowship. This is a byproduct of having lived under the light of the Trees, and is basically an 'inner light'; in the Unseen realm, it manifests as an almost blinding glow, and is at minimum terrifying to Nazgul. Obviously, it's only present if you, uh, lived in Valinor before the Trees were murdered.
b) Foresight and Insight, or to give them their proper names, apacen and tercen. These are pretty much what the sound like - apacen is the kind of future vision Galadriel obtained through her Mirror, and tercen is her... semi mind-reading. She may or may not possess actual telepathy as well, I don't think that's made clear.
c) Craft. Elven-work is, um, better. ^^ Ringil, the sword of Fingolfin, wounded Morgoth eight times, while a Numenorean blade dissolved after stabbing the Lord of the Nazgul just once. Furthermore, elven-craft can enhance the properties of objects above what is natural:
"Are these magic cloaks?" asked Pippin, looking at them with wonder.
"I do not know what you mean by that," answered the leader of the Elves. "They are fair garments, and the web is good, for it was made in this land. They are elvish robes, certainly, if that is what you mean. Leaf and branch, water and stone: they have the hue and beauty of all these things under the twilight of Lorien that we love; for we put the thought of all that we love into all that we make..." (LotR II, Chapter 8)
A few pages on, we come across Galadriel's gifts: at a minimum, the Phial of Galadriel is enhanced, and quite possibly the earth in Sam's box as well. The boats, the ropes - even the lembas of the Galadhrim is 'magically' enhanced.
But this enhancement isn't 'add any attribute you like'; it seems to only make things more themselves. The cloaks, woven light and camoflaged, become extra light and super-camo. As to how this was done...
d) Song. Don't knock singing - it's the very method of the creation of Arda. And it's most definitely a tool of elvish magic:
And Luthien now was left alone.
A magic song to Men unknown
she sang...
... and all names of things
tallest and longest on earth she sings:
the locks of the Longbeard dwarves; the tail
of Draugluin the werewolf pale;
the body of Glaurung the great snake;
the vast upsoaring peaks that quake
above the fires in Angband's gloom...
Song is the medium by which Luthien enhances her craft - in this case, she's imbuing her own hair with the properties it already possesses: length, and darkness. When she's done, she has enough to weave a cloak and rope, and darkness/night enough to bring down sleep on anyone she chooses - up to and including Morgoth.
And music isn't just used in craft (or by half-Ainur): the most famous passage from the Lay of Leithian runs, in part, as follows:
He [Sauron] chanted a song of wizardry,
Of piercing, opening, of treachery,
Revealing, uncovering, betraying.
Then sudden Felagund there swaying
Sang in answer a song of staying,
Resisting, battling against power,
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower...
Here, both Sauron and Finrod (Felagund) are trying to enchant not an object, but a person - Finrod himself. Sauron uses 'the deceits of the Enemy' - Finrod, in contrast, tries to enhance his own nature. He fills his song with resistance, with 'trust unbroken', and with 'all the magic and might... of Elvenesse'.
Ultimately, he fails, because Sauron turns his own song against him: he twists Finrod's memories of 'the sighing of the Sea beyond/Beyond the western world, on sand/On sand of pearls in Elvenland' with the reality of the murder of the Trees, and of Feanor's kinslaying.
The wolf howls. The ravens flee.
The ice mutters in the mouths of the Sea.
The captives sad in Angband mourn.
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn--
And Finrod fell before the throne.
But still - I'd love to see a story about elven battle-song. ^^
(All of which suggests a new spin on Galadriel's 'Namarie', which ends with her singing: 'May it be that thou [Frodo] shalt find Valimar!' Poetry, a hope, a wish - or an enchantment and a spell? You decide.
e) Illusion. This one shows up mostly among people who knew Melian. She, of course, spun a web of illusion and magic around Doriath, to keep unfriendly creatures out. Later, Finrod used similar illusion - 'by the arts of Felagund their own forms and faces were changed into the likeness of Orcs'. And waaaaay down in history, Thranduil (whose father was a member of Melian's court) apparently uses something related to spirit his feasts away from Thorin's company.
But all of these sort of fall under 'craft'. Finrod had to outfit his party with Orcish gear and weapons, which he could draw on the essence of; Melian used the already-tangled woods of Doriath; Thranduil had Mirkwood to draw on. The idea that an elf could, say, create an illusion of an elephant, is unsupported by the Legendarium.
f) [Okay, I lied, there's six] The Rings. I've discussed this on Netilardo. The evidence suggests that the Three Rings were created to sustain the world, which is what Galadriel uses Nenya for. (We can ignore Gandalf's apparent use of Narya - he's a Maia, there's different interactions there). And apart from communicating with the wearer of the One Ring, that's all they're for: freezing time in place, so that the world of the Eldar doesn't pass away.
3/ Galadriel, Thranduil... yipes. Well. Galadriel is a warrior, so she could be enhancing her 'scary' aspect... nah, sorry, I think the best explanation for that is 'PJ doesn't know what starlight looks like'. The book describes starlight in the scene by the Mirror, and her 'Storm Queen' scene in B5A would also make more sense with starlight (known for its evil-banishing properties). Actually, I'd swear I saw her holding the Phial in that scene - I wonder if the Dark/Evil/Scary thing was added in post-production.
Thranduil is much easier: movie!Thranduil was supposedly scarred by a dragon, but we've already established he could have access to 'enhancing' illusions. The illusion of your own face being undamaged must be quite simple.
4/ I think most of this has been answered above. There's no fundamental differences between the tribes of the Quendi - the only determining factors are: whether they saw the Trees in their glory, whether they knew Melian, and whether they have a Ring. Galadriel, of course, fulfils all three - and she and Celebrimbor are the only people in history to have done so (and 'Brim may never have met Melian).
This has been your overly-long answer to a Tolkien trivia question of the week. ^_^ Well, you asked!
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Wait, hold on. by
on 2015-02-11 01:39:00 UTC
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"a) The Light of Valinor, as seen on Glorfindel in Fellowship. This is a byproduct of having lived under the light of the Trees, and is basically an 'inner light'; in the Unseen realm, it manifests as an almost blinding glow, and is at minimum terrifying to Nazgul. Obviously, it's only present if you, uh, lived in Valinor before the Trees were murdered."
So, er. Does this mean that my Calaquendi agents could scare Nazgul if they were ever in a position to do so?
Also, yes, singing. I suppose they should do some at some point...
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I think so. by
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Frodo perceived Glorfindel as a great light, and my reading has always been that this a) was because he lived under Treeslight, and b) is what drove the Black Riders into the river, even though they were terrified of water.
To be honest, the Nazgul aren't that hard to scare off. Fire, running water, Caliquendi - you can pretty much send them running at a moment's notice. The trouble comes in three ways:
1/ Unlike wild animals, they don't just blindly run in fear. Sure, the Witch-King will back away from a torch - but when you turn to do the same to Khamul, you get a Morgul blade in the back.
2/ It only works if you can reach them. ^_^ Their winged steeds carry them nicely over water, and keep them out of range of fire, too - and the distance doesn't do anything to stop the effects of their cries.
3/ The Nazgul aren't front-line troops anyway - they're spies, assassins, and saboteurs. Think of Merry in Bree - he didn't know what hit him, but the Black Breath still knocked him right out. When we see the Ringwraiths, it's in exceptional circumstances, with everything on the line; their normal MO is closer to that tense, subtle pursuit of Frodo across the Shire.
Add in the fact that, while running water is a universal barrier (particularly for Khamul, as I recall), fire is apparently more of a panic reaction - certainly the Witch-King had no problems navigating the fire-filled trenches of the Pelennor, and actually held a magically-flaming sword when he encountered Gandalf - and you're left with a bunch of short-term solutions for a very long-term problem.
But for startling them long enough to get away, a Valinorian Elda revealing her innate power would probably work, yes.
(Which leaves me to wonder - what exactly were they scared of?)
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Paging hS! by
on 2015-02-08 00:32:00 UTC
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Yes, I know, I'm hijacking the thread.
-Puts a balaclava on-
That's a hijack! Everybody put their hands up in the air!
Anyway.
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And I thought that Tauriel's fight with Bolg was rubbish... by
on 2015-02-08 00:22:00 UTC
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Really! All the time I was thinking that she should had be severly injured after all the clobberin' that she received and I was utterly flabbergasted when at the end she was still able to stand and apparently unharmed; now I think that if something, she was heavily nerfed.
Also, I think that the info just killed the climax of my fic, those elves are just too hard to injure, and the climax hinged on the OC receiving enough severe injuries to keep the OC out of comission for months, something that is no longer feasible due to the way the story was structured. On the other hand, that gives me more leeway to punish the OC with slapstick comedy. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Ahem, well going back to the supernatural abilities, seems like my OC will have a rather limited "elven magic" ability, because well, a) Is a warrior, b) The OC's ancestry haven't been purely Noldor in 4600 years and is mostly Silvan, and c) Was born in the 2900 of the Third Age. So, no fancy magic stuff for the OC, except, perhaps; a little singing. (Don't expect much, I'm a terrible lyricist)
Ok, I lied a little, there's another thing. A Lesser Power Ring. Pretty much the power of that ring can be summed up as: "Slows the perception of the flow of time, as long as the bearer, conciously or unconciously; desires to do so and keeps focused on that desire." That means that the ring is quite unreliable, and I think its capabilites fit within the range being just a "practice of the craft". Or what do you think?
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It was still rubbish. (nm) by
on 2015-02-09 00:22:00 UTC
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I do still think the fight's ending is rubbish. by
on 2015-02-09 15:33:00 UTC
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Tauriel's dead would have been a much better way to end it, for dramatic purposes; despite the "starcrossed-lovers-dying-together" cliché; compared to the "Twu Wuv" sappy one that we got. Also it would have pleased a lot of angry fans.
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on 2015-02-09 17:05:00 UTC
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It would've been so much better if she'd gone down avenging Kili rather than having Legolas rescue her. She was supposed to be an orc-killing machine, dang nabbit, not some damsel in distress. Plus, there was that bit where Thranduil asked if she was prepared to die for her love, and she said yes—and then totally ruined everything by not following through.
I was very disappointed, and I don't even dislike Tauriel.
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on 2015-02-08 08:23:00 UTC
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Yes, she should probably have been seriously injured. But you can fight on after being even fatally wounded - just, y'know, not for very long.
W/r/t your abc:
a) Eldar aren't 'just' warriors. They live for thousands of years, you don't specialise that extremely. Everyone, at minimum, is an artist. And there's no indication that 'magic' is particularly difficult - look again at how blase the elves are about the Lorien cloaks.
b) There's no fundamental difference between the Noldor and the Lindar (ie, 'the third tribe, using their own name). They probably had less tercen and apacen, because of no Treeslight, but other than that...
c) Um. 2900 might be a bit late. The Eldar are noted to not tend to have children in times of war - and the Necromancer appeared in Dol Guldur in 2460, with the note that 'the Watchful Peace ends'. That's about as late as any Third Age elves should be born.
(Also: singing doesn't require you to write the song)
The Lesser Ring: this is one of the rings described by Gandalf as mere essays in the craft. We know they could turn you invisible; we also know they couldn't extend your life like the One did to Bilbo, because that's what worried Gandalf to begin with. It's... yeah, it's plausible, since we know so little about how the Rings operated in the first place. It'll probably still have a corrupting effect, since Sauron got his grubby little mitts on it.
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Thank you very much!!! by
on 2015-02-08 10:37:00 UTC
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Your help has been invaluable. These answers provide me with more narrative options!!
Also, I'm completely aware of the implications of the birthdate, do know that the Eldar did not tend to have children in times of war, but nowhere it is said that it never happened. ^_~ -
Well... by
on 2015-02-08 00:50:00 UTC
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Just because Fingolfin could take a beating like that doesn't mean just anyone can. Fingolfin was a very powerful lord of the Noldor who had seen the Light of the Trees. Also, bear in mind that The Silmarillion is, from an in-universe standpoint, a translation of the Elvish legends of the First Age. The tale may have been embellished for poetic or dramatic purposes—for example, he's crushed down three times, not one, two, or four. It could be accurate, or it could be that Morgoth crushed him like a bug the first time, he lashed out with his dying breath, and managed to land a lucky hit. The latter version doesn't sound as good in epic tale. {= )
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Yeah, that. by
on 2015-02-08 07:05:00 UTC
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There's also the fact that, uh, Fingolfin died. There's a difference between 'can fight on' and 'can actually live afterwards'.
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on 2015-02-08 07:33:00 UTC
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...I think I can safely assume that the Lesser Power Ring mentioned before is feasible, right?
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Assuming there were three hits (because there's no reason not to other than being contrary), the first hit ensured his death, the next two just made sure he died sooner?
Or, er, what? I did remember that he died, so I'm confused.
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I was agreeing with you. ^_^ by
on 2015-02-08 08:13:00 UTC
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In addition to your point that Fingolfin was a Lord of the Noldor, and Tauriel is an orphan Silvan, I was throwing in that he didn't survive the battle - still less uninjured.
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Ahh, such a rare occurance! ^_~ by
on 2015-02-08 18:38:00 UTC
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I kid. It could've been read either way, though. You're too good at that Elven "both yes and no" thing. *g*
While we're talking Elves, I've been making a little progress in fact-checking the names and language in a fic WM and I are sporking, and I'd like to run what I've got by you, see if I'm on the right track. So far, I've got a few names and a phrase:
1. Lle naa vanima, "you are beautiful" - This is Grelvish, isn't it? It seems to be Quenya-derived, but would the correct Quenya phrase be nalye vanima?
2. Ohtarie - This is a name given to a female Elf in Lothlórien. Ohtar seems to be a legitimate Quenya word meaning "warrior," but just slapping -ie on the end doesn't seem to make it a feminine name, but rather an adjective that would mean something like "warriorness." Ohtarien might work... if it weren't a bit silly for a Lórien Elf to have a Quenya name.
3. Heridil - Another Quenya name stuck on a Lórien Elf. This one apparently means "Lady-friend." *snicker*
4. There's a dragon with the unfortunate name of Smut. I want to save him from a needlessly gruesome and insulting death and send him home to the First Age, and I've attempted to devise a Quenya name for him: Soace, "Little Filth." Does that work? Sindarin might be better, but Sindarin is hard. {= P
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on 2015-02-09 09:35:00 UTC
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1/ Yup, that's Grelvish. The clue is the horrifying double letters. (I think they put them in to avoid using accents - 'namárië' becomes 'namaarie' - but it's still horrifying)
2/ -ie has three meanings: an infinitive/gerund, an abstract from an adjective (so yes, 'warriorness' if you accept 'warrior' as an adjective), and in certain outdated forms, 'is' (ie, 'is a warrior'). But the last is indeed outdated. Ohtarien ('warrioress') or Ohtariel ('warrior's daughter') would work just fine; my fine-tuned Eldarin ear says you're probably right to go with -n. But no, no way should it be Quenya; the Sindarin would be Maethoriel for 'daughter'... and given the evidence of 'Luthien', I guess Maethorien would be allowable too, and again, probably preferred.
3/ Actually, 'Herindil' would indeed mean 'lady's friend', but it's not a terribly nice-sounding word. It's normally masculine; the feminine would be 'Herindilme', which... still sounds horrible. The 'lady' in there is the feminine of 'lord', rather than 'woman' (which would give 'Nindil'... honestly, I don't like the clashing 'i' sounds in all of these). I'm... well, you could alter the original to 'Herindur' to make a decent masculine name - albeit one that still means 'friend of a noble lady' (perhaps it's Varda?). In Sindarin it would be 'Heryn' or 'Hiril' for 'lady', and... uh... well, I can't find a 'friend' suffix, but you could be more honest by affixing '-dir' (Heryndir, Hirildir) to mean 'watcher'. Stalker name!
4/ It looks like the diminutive ending is indeed -ice, so 'Soace' would work... except that it looks unpronouncable. I've got a few Sindarin options for you, though:
Gwaurbîn - 'Little Soiled One'
Lhîwbîn - 'Little Sickness'
Lhîwdithen - 'Little Sickness'
Pîndhelos - 'Little Loathing'
Angosbîn - 'Little Horror'
Tithengorth - 'Little Horror'/'Little Corpse' (ah, homophones)
Pîngorth - as above
Gorgorbîn - 'Tiny, Extreme Horror'
Some of those are incredibly fun to say. ^_^
If you don't like any of them, I can try to derive a better-sounding Quenya version, or look for more Sindarin words in the same general theme.
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on 2015-02-09 17:46:00 UTC
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- So, nalye vanima Y/N? It may not matter, but I'm curious.
2. Cool. We were also considering renaming her something with the sense of "beautiful water," since we were giggling over the name sounding a bit like "Ontario" and that's apparently one possible translation. I got as far as Bain + nen, but I have no idea how to make that sound decent, or if it would need mutation or something. (I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that stuff.)
3. Heridil is a guy, forgot to mention. The noble lady in question is the fic's Sue, naturally. Heridil teaches her archery.
4. So-AH-ke, right? I kinda like that it's a little sleazy-sounding. {= ) I'll think about a Sindarin option, though.
Oh, a couple other things that come up a lot:
5. Baraer and Baraermin, "Fiery One" and "My Fiery One" - Nicknames Haldir gives the Sue. Bara is apparently a Sindarin word meaning fire, but I don't like the sound of either one of these constructions. I'm just having trouble pinning down the exact grammatical (il)logic. There's no evidence I can find of an -er suffix with this (or any) function. Maybe it's based on the Grelvish lirimaer, which also gets used of the Sue a fair bit.
Even allowing baraer, though, shouldn't the latter be baraer nin, a la mellon nin? Or have the movies gotten the wrong sounds in my head?
6. Tithen aras, "Little dear" - Wise and noble Elves occasionally refer to the Sue this way. But, aras apparently means "deer," like the critter what we hunt for venison? *snicker*
~Neshomeh
- So, nalye vanima Y/N? It may not matter, but I'm curious.
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on 2015-02-10 09:48:00 UTC
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1/ Nalye vanima looks like Quenya for 'you are beautiful' to me. Is that what it's supposed to mean? I see that it is!
2/ I'd probably reverse the order, and come up with Nenvain. That keeps the emphasis on the first syllable, where it belongs, and looks better than Bainen, which feels like half a word. And... well, it sounds like a name - NEN-vine. You can imagine an irate parent yelling it: "Nenvain! NENvain! Come and tidy your talan this instant!"
4/ So-AH-ke is right, and... yeah, actually I like that, now I say it. It's got that lovely clicky pause before the last syllable. It also reminds me of Foalócë, one of the Quenya words for 'dragon'. I take back what I said about Sindarin - keep that version.
5/ I'm pretty sure turning a vowel into a dipthong is frowned on, yeah. '-er' appears to be based on Sindarin 'êr', the number one, which shows up in prefixes as Er-, 'lone'. For that matter, I can't find any trace of 'bara' in Ardalambion Sindarin, though it's closely related to baran, 'yellow-brown'. It could also be a mutated version of paran, 'smooth'. So yeah, I wouldn't allow either of those. 'My' should indeed be 'nín', though it could also appear as a suffix '-en'. This is Grelvish all the way.
6/ Ahahahahaha. Yep, you're right. Actually there is a Sindarin word glossed as 'dear' - mail (or mell or muin) - but my guess is that it's 'Dear so-and-so', and taken from Tolkien's letters.
Basically: it's all Grelvish, and it makes my elvish heart cry. If you need a Grelvish expert to call up or bring in for a consult, I'll note here that Agent Huinesoron is fluent in it. One assumes SIELU also have specialists - but on the other hand, I'm not sure any right-minded SIELU agent would want to learn it...
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I'll keep Agent hS in mind. by
on 2015-02-11 16:28:00 UTC
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We've got Ithalond on the team, so theoretically he should be able to point out bad Elvish... assuming he can keep it together long enough to say anything sensible. Uh. Yeah. Huinesoron might just get a call from Diocletian or Derik. {= ) We're already planning to ring Nurse Jenni to weigh in on some really bad genetics (she being the first medical-ish person they would think of), so it would fit the course of the mission so far.
If you want to see what else might come up, here's the index of the badfic. The author helpfully lists translations at the end of the chapter when relevant, so you don't actually have to read the thing.
1. Yay, I was right! ^_^
2. Thanks! Dunno if we'll go with that or the "Warrioress" translation, but thanks either way.
4. Would it help to write it with a diaresis on the a: Soäce? Or some other diacritical(s)?
5. IIRC, I found bara in Hiswelókë's Sindarin dictionary. (It's down for maintenance as I type, but hopefully it'll be back soon.) Maybe it's normalized from an older word form?
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Oh, yeah, there it is. by
on 2015-02-11 17:04:00 UTC
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Bara is listed as 'fiery', and glossed as literally meaning 'eager'. So that, at least, is valid.
A diaresis in Soäce makes a world of difference, yeah. Nice thought, 10/10, would agree with again.
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Hey, hS, since you're doing Grelvish checks... by
on 2015-02-11 00:38:00 UTC
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Firemagic had found a bad Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha x Lord of the Rings crossover, and I suspect that most if not all of the "Sindarin" it uses is Grelvish. Quoth the badfic:
"Translation:
Ionnath: my sons
Meleth nin: my love
Mellon nin: my friend
Orelon: morning star male
Ellith: female elf
Ellon: male elf
Melda: Dear/beloved
Meleth nin: my love
Naneth: mother
Thanguriel: true heart daughter of/ girl"
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Actually, that looks pretty good. by
on 2015-02-11 09:13:00 UTC
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I'm not sure what's going on with 'ellith' - that's a plural, not a singular - but the rest of it seems okay. I know naneth is, for sure. Ionnath would more usually be seen with a single n (as in Hurinionath, the House of Hurin), but that's orthography, not language.
I know where they got their names from: RealElvish.net lists Orelon... and, yep, Thanguriel is in there too. That latter is even considerate enough to use gur - 'inner mind' - rather than hun - 'beating thing in your chest'.
So yes: for once, the Sindarin is pretty good!
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I'm surprised. by
on 2015-02-11 11:14:00 UTC
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The fic butchers canon in numerous ways.
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Yeah, I looked. by
on 2015-02-11 11:46:00 UTC
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My guess is that the author searched for something like 'elvish names', which throws up RealElvish.net on the first page for Google. Then they kept looking around the same site. There's nothing fundamentally attractive about the Grey Company's Grelvish lists if you don't run into them first.
Or, y'know, the author could be someone who's put a lot of effort into learning Sindarin - but hasn't learnt how to write a decent story yet. People do that, y'know. Badfic authors aren't (usually) malevolent - they just haven't learnt how to do it yet. That's why we don't flame them (well, one of the reasons).
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I gotta thank Neshomeh for kind of reminding me... by
on 2015-02-09 14:59:00 UTC
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I have some doubts about two of the names for my OC:
1) Tharellien: (thar- + ell + -ien) "Of/From Beyond/Across/Over the Sky/Heaven", is an essi apacenryë, and the meaning refers to the OC's fate and as such is a Plot Point. My main doubts are; if this is a correct way to use the meaning and if it will sound well.
2) Gerfinneth:(ger + find + -eth) "Coppery-Red Haired One", nickname/adopted name; my main problem with this one is spelling, I'm not entirely convinced that that is the correct way to spell it.
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Let's take a look. by
on 2015-02-09 16:23:00 UTC
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Disclaimer: my Sindarin is based on the Ardalambion model. If you have a different source, you may find some differences.
Tharellien: 'Thar' (as in 'Thargelion') is beyond, indeed, but I'm not sure where 'ell' came from? You might be thinking of 'el', star, but heaven is 'menel'. That provides the name 'Tharvenel', but honestly I wouldn't use something that reminds me of an STD. Beyond the Stars would be 'Tharelin' or 'Thariliath' (though that latter is a bit dubious... depending on how you parse it, it may need to be 'Tharngiliath', but that's not a word any self-respecting elf would use).
A vowel-heavy ending on 'Tharelin' wouldn't work too well... if you'll accept a singular star, you could have 'Tharelien', One from Beyond a Star - you could even keep the double-L, since it doesn't change the way it's said. There's also the word gilwen, which refers to the starry dome of the sky (it's Q. 'Ilmen'), so 'Tharngilwen' would work, is pronounceable, and even comes with a built-in feminine ending (so can actually translate back as 'Lady from Beyond a Star').
Gerfinneth: 'ger' seems to be a corruption of 'gaer', meaning coppery - but also meaning sea and awe-inspiring. Regrettably the other coppery word, 'ross', has its own homophones (foam and glitter(!)).
'find' is obviously our old friend hair (specifically a head of it); it would usually show up in compounds as 'fin', but the double 'n' makes sense. 'f' doesn't mutate, so that's a plus.
'-eth'... well, it shows up as 'out of' before a th. I'm not really sure where this suffix is coming from, but it seems like a reasonable contraction of 'elleth' (and 'Gerfinelleth' is too long, and 'Gerfilleth' just doesn't look right). 'Gaerfinneth' is the more correct spelling, but y'know, vowels... so overall, I'm inclined to give you this one. It looks better than 'Gerfineth', certainly.
Overall: So she's using her mother-name and an after-name? Not a problem, but it sparks the question of why she has the after-name. It's fairly nondescript, even if it is a near cognate to 'Russandol' (hi, Maedhros!). Usually when afternames are used they seem to be either:
-A nickname among friends, as indeed 'Russandol' was.
-Highly personally or politically significant, as in Elu Thingol 'the Grey-Cloak' (ie, Lord of the Sindar), Finrod Felagund 'the Hewer of Caves', or of course Luthien Tinuviel 'my husband gave me this name, and if you complain you'll find out exactly why the Powers of West and North alike bent to my will'.
-The only name they use, as with... well, most of the Noldor, technically, but let's cite Galadriel and, uh, Maedhros again as examples.
So is 'Gerfinneth' what her friends call her ('Oy, Gingernut!')? Or is she somehow significant for her red hair (being a descendent of Mahtan would probably do that), or is she normally Gerfinneth unless things are getting plotty?
hS
PS: Actually, writing it over and over, 'Gerfinneth' is starting to bother me. It's... I dunno, it just feels like it's too weak before that 'rf' cluster there. Compare 'Glorfindel', where there's a nice solid 'Gl' to start you off; here, it's just a bit weak.
Actually, 'Gerfindeth' might make it a bit better; it places the emphasis clearly on 'find' - ger-FIND-eth - which is where it should be. I'd probably go with that.
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(This is the model I used: http://www.realelvish.net/)
1) I would indeed accept a singular star in Tharelien, that name keeps a similar idea to the one I look for and sounds practically the same.
2) I do indeed like more the sound of Gerfindeth, in fact, that was my original plan!
Actually she would be using her father-name, mother-name and an after-name, so her full name would be Elanoriel Tharelien Gerfindeth (I decided not give her a chosen-name because laziness). Which one will be used, depends on the point in time of the story; for example, the after-name will not be used during the earlier chapters, because she would not have received it yet.
And that brings me to the next point, has an after-name because all the three reasons! In all seriousness though, her after-name will be kind of a business-name for strangers and co-workers, kind of like Aragorn's Strider. How she gets it... Well that would be [SPOILERS!], and I cannot say those here... -
Yeah, but name one elf who did that. by
on 2015-02-09 21:25:00 UTC
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I can barely think of a handful who even used two names. In fact, let's see:
Finrod Felagund (always top of my list ^_^)
Luthien Tinuviel
(Possibly) Aredhel Ar-Feiniel
Idril Celebrindal
Elrond Peredhil
(Ereinion) Gil-Galad
Arwen Undomiel
Um...
Legolas Thranduilion?
Elu Thingol (duh)
Oh! Beleg Cuthalion
And...
Um...
... yeah.
I'm sure I've missed someone/s, but even so. That's ten characters; one of them's a 'son of Thranduil', one (Gil-Galad) barely qualifies, and one (Aredhel) we never see them written together. According to Middle-earth Statistics, there are 98 named elves in the Legendarium.
Most commonly, the Eldar would take either their father- or mother-name (and there's no evidence they even had both outside Valinor, interestingly), and - when it was significant - would add an epesse of one kind or another. Stringing names together in a long line... wasn't really done. I mean, yes, the first son of Feanor and Nerdanel technically had the names 'Nelyafinwe Matimo Maedhros Russandol' - but he only used the one.
As for the 'business name' concept... as Aragorn points out in the book, he was given the name Strider by the folk of Bree. He doesn't use it by particular choice, though he grows quite fond of it when he keeps getting it from the hobbits. There's no indication that he regularly gave his name - or, if he did, that he gave it as anything other than Aragorn.
More generally, the only real reason people in Middle-earth hide their names is when they're... hiding them! Aragorn was Thorongil, 'the Eagle of the Star', in Gondor in his youth, because revealing himself to be Isildur's Heir in front of the Steward wouldn't exactly have been politic (and that 'Ar-' prefix is very iconic of that family). Turin, famously, tried to hide his name everywhere he went - but it didn't work.
Luthien once claimed to be Thuringwethil, and Finrod claimed to be an orc - but that was disguise. In fact, the only elves I know of to have deliberately kept their names hidden... were Celegorm and Curufin, when they entrapped Luthien. They're... not a good role model.
And... well, see what I said about magic. When Luthien was enchanting her hair, she did it by naming the various things she was drawing on. If you try to disavow your own name - won't you become less 'yourself'? And among the Eldar, quite literally the most grounded people in Arda, that's a terrifying idea. I'd be willing to guess they told ghost stories about houseless spirits who had been wandering so long, they'd forgotten their own names...
(Which also explains why Feanor made such a fuss over renaming Melkor as 'the Dark Enemy of the World'. Is it significant that he was never able to assume a fair form after that point? Nah... can't be... right?)
((ALSO: 'you all thought I was merely Axabras, but in secret I am [DRAMATIC CHORD] Inuska!!!' is a very Suvian scene which should be avoided at all costs. Remember how early we're given Aragorn's true name?))
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Clarification by
on 2015-02-09 23:58:00 UTC
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Actually, at no point of the story I planned to string the names like that, is only used for reference in notes outside the story. The names in-story would be used like this:
1) Elanoriel is the most used one, in fact is the one which she uses to present herself, and therefore those who know her will use this name for her.
2) Come to think about, she never uses Tharelien, in the one-and-a-half chapters I have written so far, the name is used exactly once (In comparison, the name above is used at least 20 times) and only her mother calls her like that. And her mother will stop appearing after Chapter II. (Coming to think about it, I could totally drop this name.)
3) Gerfindeth is a nickname she grew fond of, and thus "adopted". Therefore, would be used by those who aren't well acquainted with her. This one has yet to appear in-story and won´t appear until Chapter IV.
(Note 1: Thanks for reminding me that bit about Aragorn, it has been a while since I read the book, like about 10 years. I really should buy them, but I'm poor. XD)
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on 2015-02-10 09:32:00 UTC
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Elanoriel bothers me. I can't really come up with an instance of that kind of naming in any Eldarin culture. More likely would be a name that has the same meaning, but not the same sound - 'Anorel' would work by itself, or 'Anorelien'. You could also switch to the alternate words for 'sun' and 'star', which are Naur and Gîl. Gîlnoriel might work (yes, apparently 'naur' becomes '-nor' in most compounds), or Narilien (though technically that should be 'Narngilien', which isn't very nice).
O'course, I can't stop you either way, and this is all my opinion on what 'feels right' - there's nothing technically flawed about 'Elanoriel'. I just don't like it. ^_^
I'd agree with dropping 'Tharelien' entirely - there's no need to make a story extra-confusing Just Because, and insisting on using a name your child has chosen to let slide is a mark of pretty bad parenting - as in, Feanor did it.
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I could change that name too... by
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I chose that name because I was looking for some kind of flower-related name (apparently elanor is some kind of flower) and none of the compounds used for loth "sound right" for me.
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Um. Yes, it's 'some kind of flower'. by
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Specifically, the golden 'Star-Sun', or elanor, bloomed east of the Sea only in the land of Lorien. I believe they also grew in Numenor, back in the day. Sam Gamgee named his daughter after them (hobbits having a thing for flower names).
But... again, I can't come up with a canonical Elda named after... well, I don't even need to say 'a flower'; how about 'a species'? Or even 'a specific object' (as opposed to a general one like 'star').
(This is technically untrue - Finduilas of Nargothrond was nicknamed 'Faelivrin' by her fiance, which means 'sunlight on the pools of Ivrin'. But that's an epesseand Gwindor was an incurable romantic, not a birth-name.
Like I say - there's nothing that says you can't be named after a type of flower. But it's not something I've ever seen. (And leaving aside everything else, readers will assume you named her after Elanor Gamgee... ^_~)
Flower names, flower names... you've said she's a Third Age character, so let's try for local colour.
Rivendell
I'd love a compound based on imloth, 'flowering valley', here. Imlothiel might work well by itself, even, or Imlothwen. You could use the other variant of loth - loss - and pull out Imlossiel. Of the three, I think I like Imlothwen ('maid from the flowering valley') most.
Lorien
I really wanted to go for 'secret blossom' here, but unfortunately the words for 'secret' are things like dolen, hall, thurin, which don't make very female-sounding names. So instead, let's draw on the defining feature of Lorien and go with Malhilith - 'silver gleam from gold'. That encapsulates a mallorn well, I think.
Mirkwood
Obviously we need 'forest' in here, and to avoid ripping off Tauriel, we need it as -daur-. I quite like Tuidaurwen, or Tuidauriel - 'forest bud maid'. It'd be said 'twi-DOW'R-iel'. I'd probably go for the latter, purely because I can't get the w to actually come out in '-daurwen'.
For either of the forest realms, you could also have Calenloth, 'green blossom', giving overtones of 'unripe'. The -th gives it a soft enough feel to work for a woman despite the o.
The Grey Havens
I really like the sound of Sireirin, 'daisies of the river', but unfortunately compounding them makes it look like 'sire' (it's sir-eirin). Lirfalas, 'song of the shoreline', isn't flower-related at all, but I like it anyway. Actually, 'Lireirin', 'song of the daisies', might work - but again, that -re- cluster breaks the reading up too much. I can't pull a decent name out of this combination, I'm afraid.
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Morgoth-damn you, Samwise Gamgee!! *shakes fist* by
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Jokes aside, I should have pointed out that was an elleth from The Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood. That said, I like the way the name "Erynloth" sounds and the rhytmn it gets combined with the nickname "Gerfindeth", meesa thinks that meesa can keep it.
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Definitely not. by
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Earwen > (Artanis) Nerwen > Celebrian > Arwen. The only common theme there is '-wen', and that's in no way evidence of a connection.
Erynloth Gerfindeth - yeah, that works.
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Thanks! Now's time to beta hunting!! (nm) by
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Trivia tiiiime! =oD by
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That "very Suvian thing" hS pointed out? That's a butchered, overused stylistic device called exegesis. Unless you want to sound like Victor Hugo when his medication runs out, use it sparingly if at all. Most people don't, which is why it lacks any kind of power.
"Hugo, hélas" indeed. =]
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Wasn't he the bad guy out The Smurfs?
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Not quite. by
on 2015-02-09 12:10:00 UTC
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That's Gargamel.
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Rainier? by
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Still... by
on 2015-02-08 01:28:00 UTC
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Tauriel took a beating that could have turned the T-800 Terminator into scrap metal, and had only some minor scratches and bruises after it. XD
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In similar vein... by
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I meant to ask you about this a while ago, but how well would cannons work against something like Sauron in corporeal form? It's for the early-gunpowder-weaponry-in-Arda thing. I mean, you don't exactly have to worry about a cannonball dissolving, but case and canister would probably be ineffectual. Roundshot and rocket-fire all the way. =]
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Probably quite well. by
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I mean, Sauron showed repeatedly that he was vulnerable to disembodiment: Huan was able to threaten him with it, the fall of Numenor achieved it, and so did Isildur. It's not that hard to bump off Sauron's physical body.
The difficulty is making him stay that way. 'Involuntary separation from the One Ring' is the tried-and-true method - the fall of Numenor was less effective because Sauron either left the Ring in Mordor, or wasn't actually separated from it.
So yeah - blow up his hand, and you can probably put Sauron down for a couple of thousand years, provided you (this is entirely speculative) claim the Ring and deprive him of his power source. Just remember that no cannon ever built can damage the One.
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New mission so soon? Yep! by
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I know I said I wanted to do a WoW mission next, but this one... it called to me. I just couldn't resist! I promise the WoW mission is next in line.
Yeah, this one's shorter than usual, but to be fair, the badfic was only four chapters to begin with, and the last chapter was just a copy/paste of part of the third.
I'm rambling. Enjoy!
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"IÂ’ll be in the Canon Library if you need me." by
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The Canon Library was dark - of course it was. That was the way the Canon Librarian preferred it, and since he had managed to obtain absolute authority in his own domain, no-one was prepared to argue.
Admittedly, that was because they figured he'd threatened, intimidated, or blackmailed the Flowers into letting him run the place his own way. If people knew that he'd actually just sulked at them until they gave in, he probably wouldn't be quite so respected.
But it was dark - the kind of darkness that comes from spending your life in a perpetual inner gloom, and then having that magnified by certain supernatural events the Canon Librarian preferred not to think about. The sole denizen of the Library sat, peacefully reading, in what was halfway between a den and a nest. And then someone opened the door, and electric light burned in.
The Canon Librarian dropped his book in shock. Not at the fact that someone was intruding on his peaceful domain - that happened often enough - but at the twin facts that the agent was some sort of lion thing with sparks of electricity flying off its fur - and that it wasn't waiting at the door, but coming straight inside.
The Canon Librarian's usual technique was to snap, 'What?', but that didn't seem enough this time. Getting to his feet, he growled out, "What exactly do you think you're doing?"
Or rather, he tried to growl; it came out as more of a squeak. Regardless, the creature looked into the shadows, blinked, and said, "Uh, reading?"
"Reading." The Canon Librarian managed to get his voice under control. "And what, exactly, makes you think that this is a place to read? Does this look like a library to you?"
"Uh..."
"... shut up. Just. Shut up."
'Hey, hS, I've noticed you seem to be responding to a lot of stories with ficlets of late. What gives?'
Well asked, dear reader. I was remembering the days of the DCPS, when case-workers would respond to missions featuring their charges, and I thought: hey, why can't the Infrastructure agents under my aegis do the same thing? I enjoy writing, PPCers in general enjoy reading - what's to lose? And thus, this happened.
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WAIT. by
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Luxray have really good eyesight, not to mention the ability to see through walls. So wouldn't Zeb be able to see the Canon Librarian?
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Well, Dafydd can't see through it, and neither can Selene; it's definitely magical. But neither of them can see through walls... it's possible Zeb could see him. Are there canon Dark-type attacks which block sight? I can't think of one, but that might give a hint.
I'unno. If you decide you want to bring it up in-fic, and want him to have been able to see the Canon Librarian, I can provide you with a visual description for him.
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*jawdrop* by
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Ehh... I dunno, I always thought the Canon Librarian's actual appearance was to remain forever a mystery. I will definitely ask if I need it, though.
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I have a Plan for him, which won't be affected either way by someone getting a brief look at him (bear in mind he was still huddled up in a pile of books, I'm not sure Zeb would've seen more than a glimpse).
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I half-thought he was a bona fide Eldritch Abomination. (nm) by
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I have no idea what you 'plan' is, but... by
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I sorta see him as one of these: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Seeker
A servant of Herma Mora (and no, that is not a mini) who found his way into the PPC's library. He now cares for their library like he used to for the books of Apocrypha.
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The Canon Librarian will be flattered... by
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... that so many people think he's so terrifying.
Flattered - and a little bit scared himself.
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He definitely makes himself seem eldrich, even if he is just some dude.
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Also! by
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Hermaeus-Mora/Herma Mora would know about the PPC! After all isn't he Keeper of Secret Knowledge and Things-That-Should-Not-Be-Known? Ya'now, would be kind of his job to know.
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Exactly. by
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And you know Sheogorath has warped some agents minds. Probably because somebody summoned him, for some reason.
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Ahem... In happier stuff.... by
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Probably also Akatosh, the Aedra of Time and the Chief of all of them; would know, after all as a god of Time, he guards the timeline, and WILL know when someone messes with it, and as Auri-El, he's also the God of Sun, and he can see EVERYTHING.
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Oh dear, here we go again. ^_^ by
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Every couple of years, someone starts down this line of thinking, and pretty quickly ends up deciding that every deity, powered being, and generally likable character in their fandoms would know about the PPC, and probably also be OOC resistant and and and.
And then someone (not usually me, which clearly indicates there's something wrong with the universe) comes along and points out that 1/ that'll make for really boring missions, 2/ that'll require every writer to be aware of that, 3/ that'll cause calamity if/when they decide to visit HQ, 4/ shouldn't that be kept for really special characters, and 5/... well, there's probably a 5, and maybe more than that, too.
Personally, I'm convinced by reason 1 alone: every mission in that continuum would be either rendered unnecessary (Character X knows about the badfic, and being nice, will deal with it) or ridiculously hazardous (Character Y knows about the badfic, and being nasty, will aid it). But throw in on top of that the fact that the canon doesn't notice badfic effects - otherwise every mission would consist of every single canon fighting against the effect, and running off the moment they're out of the plot. Which they don't. They accept the intrusion as 'part of the world' - because at the time, it is.
So yeah, Character Z may well be able to see everything ever - but since she'll register Mary-Sue Z-Prime as being supposed to be there, that doesn't help any, and since she'll be subject to the same canon-cloaking as every other canon character, she won't notice the agents, either.
And then the badfic will be dealt with, and everything will revert, as it always has. ^_^
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Yes, yes, I know. by
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However, there is a slight difference here. In the case of Shaeogorath and Hermaeus Mora, they are Daedra. Basically demons. They either would not care about the presence of badfic, or actively try to aid it. Well, who knows with Shaeogorath. He is the Prince of Madness, after all. Luckily, he tends not to do much if not summoned. So, no fear of boring missions in that continuum. Expecially if Shaeogorath gets interested.
Now, in the case of the Aedra, it does not matter if they can sense badfic or not. Elder Scrolls gods have very limited power, due to it being spent keeping the world from being dissolved into Oblivion. They can grant blessings to mortals, but short of that... Not much. So, if they could sense the badfic, the most they could do is grant agents minor blessings. I agree that the Aedra probably should not be able to sense Mary Sues and badfic, but even if they could, it would not affect the mission all that much. -
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I insinuated that Hermaeus Mora may actually get involved in the badfic. The thing with Mora is, he does not care about much of anything, except the acquisition of knowledge, spending his time looking through his books and finding particularly talented individuals with new knowledge. He just would not bother with badfics, even if they directly involve him. He has many aspects, one of them will handle it.
I am sure the PPC has made some sort of deal with him. Perhaps giving him various amounts of canon knowledge, so he would not be interested in harvesting the minds of agents while on mission. If he were interested in the study of Mary Sues and other Suevian characters, he would have killed one and observed it long ago. You have nothing to fear from Herma Mora. Well, unless you summon him... But then you know what you are signing up for. -
This is every single kind of beautiful. by
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And then poor Zeb was so traumatized by the experience that he never went back again.
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So, if there is a misspelling that is exactly the same... by
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... it summons the same mini into the world, instead of making new copies of the type of mini? I learn something new today. Also, "well, duh?" to knowing that Remus is a werewolf? I thought she may try to seduce or harm him or something.
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Minis by
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I got the idea from Boromire the mini-Balrog, actually. I recall at least one spinoff where some agents found him and sent him back to Acacia.
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I'm still waiting... by
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... for a current PPC writer's mini to show up in a mission, and be noticed by the agents. Actually, these days, Thanduril is probably getting a lot of attention... Dafydd will be furious. (For that matter, since Thanduril is mine, I'm pretty ticked off myself)
(And yes, there's only one 'copy' of each mini, getting dragged around by the whims of badfic. I wonder if there's a counselling centre for them...)
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Lily and I are co-writing a mission where that happens. by
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I'd kind of love to find one where the mini dragged in has been adopted by the agent whose mission it is, though. That could be hilarious, and a nice way of doing some mini and agent character development.
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I've been looking. by
on 2015-02-09 17:30:00 UTC
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But I don't think I've found any yet. If I have, I totally missed it.
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ThatÂ’s an unhealthy speed :-) by
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I’m overworked reading so much in such a short time, but I cannot not read your missions, they are too good.
Anyway, the usual nitpicking:
The Sue use her fire powers to heat up some sausage for Ron,
Tense shift.
and the scene swirled, dumping Zeb in the middle of the first head girls' dormitory.
You probably meant "first year girls’ dormitory", or "first-year girls’ dormitory" (JKR writes “first-years” with a hyphen) or maybe "first-year-girls’ dormitory" (I’m not sure whether JKR ever used something similar to the latter).
Also, beginning three consecutive sentences with "He" (starting with "He opened the bag ...") is a bit repetitive.
Seven years in three chapters? What did this chick think?
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It's not because I have no life, nope! by
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And thanks for pointing those out. Fixed!
I was tempted to continue to the last chapter, where the Sue gets the 'dagger of Roweena Ravenclaw' from Dumbledore's will. Also, Lupin gives her a diamond tiara for her seventeenth birthday. All I can say is this:
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Your Speed is Still Impressive by
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I mean, I have no life, and I'm still working on my first mission. Excellent work, by the way.
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Thank you. :) by
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I really just have a lot of free time on my hands, that's all.
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O,O by
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Awesome work, as always. by
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The title said it all: WhatThe indeed.
A few questions:
1) How is Zeb human in the beginning of the story? Disguise Generator? D.O.R.K.S.? You might want to consider adding a line or two to explain what happened. And by the way, does Zeb have to be human in order to read? I'd think that a Pokemon that is able to see through walls would have no problem reading a book.
2)Zeb tilted his head. "Say, Rina, if the Sue's supposed to be Harry's age, how old would Tonks—?"
"Seven," Rina replied curtly. "Sues are always making Remus an inadvertent pedophile, it's disgusting."
Being that I'm not that well-versed in Potterverse lore, could you please explain the math? According to the Harry Potter Wiki, Tonks was born in 1973. If the Sue was born at the same time as Harry, then wouldn't Tonks have been in her late teens, if not in her twenties, at the time of Harry's birth?
3) "You know, I think Luna can almost see through SEP fields as well," she continued. "My second mission, I could have sworn she could see me and Randa."
Do you have an MLP mission in the works? Or am I barking up the wrong fandom?
3)This one's an actual error:
"All that happens is Sue helps Harry and Hermione save Sirius, she visits daddy, Harry gets the 'firebolt'—" she nudged the mini through a portal. "and there's a stupid sock-puppet author's note. I can do without that."
The first letter of the parenthetical should be capitalized, and you should use another em-dash to re-introduce the narrative, since you cut her off with an em-dash:
"Harry gets the 'firebolt'—"
She nudged the mini through a portal.
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1) Disguise Generator. I probably ought to add a line there.
2) Yes, Tonks was born in 1973 (She and Lupin are 13 years apart; he was born March 10, 1960. Before you ask, yes, I have no life.). But Harry was born in 1980. Which would make Tonks seven at the time of his birth. *shudders*
3) Luna Lovegood. :P
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That was quite quick. by
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And how did I miss my numbering error?! I change one number to accomodate an extra entry, and I forget to change the number after it. *facepalm*
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What was quick? (nm) by
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Your response. (nm) by
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I'd say it's easier to flip the pages with hands. (nm) by
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The Luna in question is Lovegood. Harry Potter, remember. (nm) by
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I totally did not ask the same question to myself. by
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Nope. Not at all.
Hey, at least I'm doing that co-write mission in MLP! I have an excuse!
Speaking of which, I have done a little on it, but not a huge amount. I will do more when I have a little more time. Uni is kicking my butt right now, but nothing I cannot handle if I focus. I am tempted to let you write most of it until a major battle scene, then I come in and change things up. Also, I have an idea for a side-character, but it is up to you to see if it stays. -
Ooh, checking now! by
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And I totally understand about the college thing, even if I can't say I've had firsthand experience.
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Stunning work as always m'lady! by
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Here, a single-use taser batarang for Agent Rina Davies, use it wisely. Don't ask how I got it, is better for thy sanity to not ask. *disappers into the shadows*
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Who's Rina Davies? by
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Is she related to Roger Davies, captain of the Ravenclaw Quidditch team? :P
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The Time Lord, with long tied dark brown hair and dressed with a green suit and a red tie; was checking the instruments in one of the Central Console’s panels, when he saw a small humanoid figure running under the Central Console. “Hmm...” he mused and scowled slightly, then reached under the Console to grab the small figure. Once he managed to grab it, he raised the tiny human, pinching her clothes between his fingers, while the 2-inch tall girl with short unruly brown hair, who constantly swung a crowbar scaled to her size, shouting “Let me go,” with a high pitched voice, fitting her size.
The Time Lord narrowed his eyes “Who or what are...” He started to ask, and then realization hit him, “Wait! You’re a mini!” His eyes opened at full. “Wait... Why I’m a Time Lord for that matter?” He shrugged “Eh, whatever. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.” He carefully placed the mini on the Console, and started moving controls and pushing buttons seemingly at random on the panels. Once he finished, and returned to the starting panel, grabbed a lever and looked at the mini, “So, Tiny One, ready for a ride?” he said and then pushed the lever with a “Yeehah!”
Meanwhile Iximax was [insert action here] in [insert place here], when a large wooden box with a weird antenna flashing with red lights, materialized with a violet glow. Then the weird-looking guy above described, opened a door and stepped out of the box. He looked at Iximax, took her hand and carefully placed the mini on her hand. “Here is the mini-Agent ‘Rina Davies’. Since that due to her size she is not able to use the batarang, I got to ask you that you should give said gadget to the Agent Sabrina Elizabeth ‘Rina’ Dives.” He clasped his hands at his back, “So, without any further adieu, I have other matters to attend to.” He turned around and went back into the TARDIS, which then de-materialized with a violet glow, while Boarder and mini watched with a [insert reaction here] gaze. -
Hot damn, mini-me goes everywhere! by
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It's okay, it's not like she also stole my PG hat or anything. :P
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Uuuuuh... Yeeees... She is.... O_ô by
on 2015-02-08 22:52:00 UTC
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And I'm The Doctor. *gets in the TARDIS, which then de-materializes*
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My, you work quickly. by
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That was a satisfying read :) *gives Zeb some Berries*
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Oh, berries? Thank you! by
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Do you have any pecha berries? Those are my favorites.
And yes, my author does seem to work fast. It's because she has nothing better to do in her free time, or so I am told. She really does seem to do nothing else. I suspect it's actually because she ignores all real-world commitments in favor of writing, but what do I know? -
Maybe it was a pyrohydra? by
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In that case, you coud have sent it to the Forgotten Realms or Golarion, let the local adventurers take care of it.
Regardless, this was a very silly mission.
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I've only read maybe one or two Forgotten Realms books and don't know Golarion, so neither of those occurred to me. :P
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Golarion is the world of Pathfinder. by
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I play PF every other week, and in our gaming group I'm the world expert.
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Ah, okay. by
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Never really played Pathfinder before, though I'd like to try. I got into D&D in fourth edition (and have a fifth edition campaign going on). The only time I played PF was at a con, and while I had fun, it was too short a session to make much of an impact.
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Completely off topic by
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Do you mind sharing your email? You seem like someone I'd get along with.
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It's artemis(dot)hunt(at)att(dot)net, but I won't be able to get back to you until tomorrow. It's waaay past my bedtime now. :P
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Pathfinder is awesome. Just saying. by
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The books are worth the hefty price tag.
I was playing a tiefling gunslinger last night, and he fell eleven stories.
He lived to tell the tale. He's retiring from adventure, but he's always going to wear a Ring of Feather Falling from now on. -
Congrats on the mission! =] by
on 2015-02-08 00:48:00 UTC
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I really, really like Zeb. Nonhuman agents are always fun, especially ones whose differences are played up a bit. Great stuff! =]
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Zeb is fun to write. by
on 2015-02-08 01:06:00 UTC
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I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
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Ow, my sides. by
on 2015-02-07 23:55:00 UTC
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I was laughing so hard I woke my mom. Oops.
Anyway, swell mission, but you might want to run a quick punctuation check - I think I spotted a couple double spaces in the text. -
Duly noted. by
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Unfortunately, that will have to wait until tomorrow. But thank you. :)
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My Badfic List by
on 2015-02-08 16:38:00 UTC
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So after finally finding my list of some of the worst badfic these are some of the worst:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9215828/1/Tale-of-Friendship
Tale of Friendship
Girls fall into Middle Earth, I don't know what else to say about it.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7869646/1/Runaway-With-My-Heart
Runaway With My Heart
I am disappointed to say I used to love this fic. It is a Mary Sue who thinks she's better than everyone and now this makes me so angry.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7720425/1/Make-Me-Stronger
Make Me Stronger
The summary is literally that they "fell into a bunny hole" and ended up in middle earth but they face NO PROBLEMS. (personal annoyance of mine)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5637449/1/Adventures-of-The-Doctor-and-His-Daughter
Adventures Of The Doctor and His Daughter
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Well, that second one is not that bad. by
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Considering that the Dragonborn/Dovahkiin is by him/herself a Canon Stu/Sue, and pretty much depends on player input for his/her personality, so he/she can be a softie, a jerk, or a downright psychopath, weeell the protagonist's personality is quite a non-issue here. Also, the NPC canons aren't that OOC (with one exception, see below).
On the other hand, in the few chapters that I read; her stupid name is an affront to all Nords, creates 2 minis (the second one a mini-Sue!), and to top it off, somehow she suddenly knows Savos Aren with no good explanation and throws him off OOC for good measure.
(Now that I put that way, it does sound quite bad, and somehow I get the feeling that later gets worse... But I'm not reading those 50 chapters.) -
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That first one has two chapters dedicated solely to author's notes.
I don't know Elder Scrolls, so I can't comment on the second.
About the third: No culture shock or language barrier? And Boromir SURVIVES! Also, Underland is from a different Inkling's pen.
And the fourth: Her marriage with Shakespeare (Ridi, Anne, sul tuo amore infranto) blows up due to him being unfaithful, and then she falls for Captain Anything-That-Moves? -
YES by
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I used to really enjoy fics like these but now I know the error of my ways they just annoy me so much.
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Oh yikes, that Doctor Who one... by
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Still, any agents who took that on would get a nice sort-of canon version of a Sonic Screwdriver: the Laser Spanner. I'm pretty sure the Doctor was referencing Laser Spanners sarcastically, but that might just be me.
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Exactly by
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The series just gets worse as it goes on. My favorite (/sarcasm) part is when the master inexplicably RAPES HER. AND SHE SUFFERS NEARLY NO SIDE-EFFECTS TO IT.
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Suddenly, River Song seems like a well made character. (nm) by
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You may have already heard of it, but... (NSFW/NSFB) by
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Here's the appropriately-named "Squick". PasteBin link because that's what I was linked to.
TL;DR: Lucius has cranial sex with Draco, and then some other stuff. Very NSFB, obviously. -
oh dear by
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Uh... Guh...
I have just one word for this:
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*HLORF* by
on 2015-02-09 00:51:00 UTC
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Oh gods, I'm throwing up things I haven't even eaten yet..
Okay... I need kerosene, a cubed sequoia, plenty of rope, half a ton of non-dairy creamer, and a flamethrower.
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Y'all are adorable. by
on 2015-02-09 11:11:00 UTC
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This has nothing on most guro doujins floating around on the internet like discarded internal organs, but just like with ebola, it only becomes horrifying when the white boys start to drop.
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I weep for humanity by
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Well it really wasn't safe for Draco's brain. Ha ha do you get it? Before I go crazy I'm going to go read some fairy tails to make me feel better.
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*Hands over some Bleepka* (nm) by
on 2015-02-08 22:47:00 UTC
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On the PPC Theater by
on 2015-02-09 00:29:00 UTC
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Could the MST page on the Wiki be used as a master list for all PPC-made MSTs? I'd like to read more of them, but it's difficult to track them down.
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I was also thinking by
on 2015-02-09 13:41:00 UTC
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of starting to list MSTs on the fandom pages, in a subsection under mission reports. Thoughts?
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Yes, yes, YES! A thousand times yes! (nm) by
on 2015-02-09 02:15:00 UTC
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Great idea! by
on 2015-02-09 01:11:00 UTC
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Are there enough MSTs out there that we'd have to group them by author, or do you think we could just straight-up alphabetize them?
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I support this undertaking. by
on 2015-02-09 01:41:00 UTC
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What if you make a sortable table? I don't know how myself, but I know hS has one on his user page, so you can probably gank the code from there. That way, visitors to the page could arrange the entries by title, author, fandom, or whatever with a simple click. {= )
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Should be able to. by
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It's at... well, I think it's at this link. Definitely somewhere around there. It's pretty simple to use - just make sure you've got the sorting enabled for all the columns you want it for. (I can't look at the Wiki from this computer, which is why I'm being so vague)
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I dunno. by
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Offhand, I know of Huinesoron, Astral Void (no relation), Laburnum, Sergio Turbo and PoorCynic's MSTs.
I can't edit the wiki myself for the time being. My computer's still broken and I'm not even going to try wiki editing with a Kindle Paperwhite. -
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Caddy-shack has done more than one.
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Some clarification requested on minis. by
on 2015-02-09 17:08:00 UTC
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Is spawning a mini from not capitalizing a proper noun a relatively new thing, or has that always been since minis were first created? I feel like I've been seeing that more and more recently. I'm a little bothered by it, to tell the truth. It feels like an artificial way to create minis. Mini creations should be reserved for legitimate misspellings, like Boromire or Herminoe. I would argue that improper capitalization is more an error of punctuation.
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I thought I was the only one! by
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Yeah, I agree. For me it feels a bit silly to get minis from failing to capitalize. It nice to know I'm not the only one who have had that thought.
I don't write minis who spawn that way. I either charge for not using proper capitalization or for general abuse of SPaG if there are other mistakes and leave it at that.
I feel the same way about minis created by using plural rather than possessive s. And minis created by missing commas. Long Table Elrond is a superfun creation and much more interesting than simply going 'and there's another mini'. -
Same here! by
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A lot of what happens on missions probably depends on perception, like Huinesoron suggested further down. If I ever get to writing missions, my agents will certainly not expect to see capitalization or punctuation minis, so they will probably never find any. But they will think very hard about which pieces of PPC technology are powered by phlebotinum or are at least sufficiently undefined to function at Hogwarts.
BTW, the Uncanonical Department of Inaccuracies needs to talk to you. May I send you an e-mail? (I found your address on another thread.)
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Punctuation Minis by
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Somehow I managed to get from "is a capitalization error worthy of a mini" to "there should be punctuation error minis, or something".
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Re: Punctuation Minis by
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I think it depends on the punctuation error. I did that in one mission that had horrible punctuation, but the reason was largely because I wanted to include a scene of dumping a pack of minis on the adoption center, and I don't think I'd do it again, because they make punctuating while writing about them difficult.
How do you make a list of these:
Cane,Helen
Way;Helen
You,Helen
Gym;John
It,John
You really can't, especially since it was a mix of semi-colons and commas.
The one named John Dont (missing apostrophe, added capital) was a much better mini, I think, even though it was largely based on punctuation, too. Big Guys and Helens aren't too bad either, although those could have been taken as errors that created copies, none of which owned whatever it was the possessive was being used for in the story.
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I'm of two minds. by
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On the one hand, incorrect orthography is incorrect. I think we'd certainly have a mini on our hands if someone messed up the capitalization in the middle of a name. For example, FrOdo would be a Frodo mini, and I'd certainly consider D'argo to be a D'Argo mini.
On the other hand, I don't ever want to be in a position of having to weigh clearly referring to a mini vs. a real character against correctly capitalizing the first word of a sentence. Damn you, capitalization, and your ambiguous place in spelling/grammar.
Ultimately, I think I'm with hS on this one. I'm perfectly happy to ignore minis in favor of more interesting/less finicky charges.
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I agree with you. by
on 2015-02-09 19:03:00 UTC
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It's been around for at least a few years now, but it does feel pretty silly. (Note that Miss Cam doesn't list any)
But... well, given that no-one's reading the original fic, I just ignore minis I don't want in my stories (big reveal, that ^_^). As long as people don't keep adding them just as word-drops, but actually use their minis, I think it's justifiable as artistic licence.
Or, and this is a personal theory, mini manifestation is linked to perception anyway. If someone thinks lowercase should make a mini, it does. If they think it shouldn't, it won't. And if they're not aware that minis form, they won't see them at all. (This may also tie into the fandoms with multiple types of mini...)
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Oh, good. by
on 2015-02-09 19:32:00 UTC
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I don't want to go back and retcon a bunch of stuff. >D Besides, ten million minis in a row can get pretty amusing.
Would already-existing lowercase minis stay in existance? Because people not capitalizing 'House' in HP fics annoys the crap out of me, and I want to bring house back sometime.
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Y'know... by
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but not capitalizing "house" isn't uniformly wrong. I mean, yes, House Gryffindor, Slytherin House, etc., but Professor McGonagall helpfully covers a lot of contexts in which it's not capitalized: "The four houses are called Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Slytherin. Each house has its own noble history ... . While you are at Hogwarts, your triumphs will earn your house points, while any rule-breaking will lose house points. At the end of the year, the house with the most points is awarded the house cup, a great honor. I hope each of you will be a credit to whichever house becomes yours" (Sorcerer's Stone, Scholastic Press, 1998, p. 114, emphasis added).
It seems to be generally pretty inconsistent, in fact. Snape is "Head of Slytherin House" (135), but at the end of the book, Dumbledore says "I award Gryffindor house fifty points" (305) a few times.
Maybe they changed it in later books/editions, but that's what I've got right in front of me in the first place I'd choose to look. So, er, sorry? {= (
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What edition do you have? by
on 2015-02-09 22:52:00 UTC
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Because I have one of the earlier American editions, and flipping through the pages at random, I'm only seeing capital H House.
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The copyright page says... by
on 2015-02-09 23:49:00 UTC
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First American edition, October 1998.
If you've got the same one, you can check the page numbers I gave. Otherwise, you can still probably find the same passages for comparison easily enough.
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Huh, that's the exact edition I have. by
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And yeah, looking over it... huh.
Welp, there goes my reputation as Head Potterhead. *crawls into a corner and sobs quietly* -
*offers hugs* by
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It's okay. You are now more knowledgeable than you were before. Reputation secure. {= )
Anyway, no one's ever above being corrected. I once misspelled "intelligence" at a crucial moment and got called on it. I was embarrassed for about... oh, forever. And I learned to always double-check, because Murphy's brother Muphry is always lurking, ready to pop out and make you look silly just when you're trying to be your most serious.
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*accepts hugs* by
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Thank you for expanding (albeit also shattering) my worldview. :P
I'm not banned from playing Harry Potter Trivia in Harry Potter Club at my school for nothing! >D -
I didn't say they didn't. by
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In fact, since people keep writing it in missions, they self-evidently do.
All I meant to say was that I don't think it's a very sensible idea, and I don't use it when I'm writing. But I'm just me! I'm not the Official Opinion Creator or anything. You're quite free to disagree with me.
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Re: Oh, good. by
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Improper capitalization created most of the minis in my first mission.
I actually used the minis, too. Well, the mini-Suus anyway. I didn't think that Suu by herself would be big enough to consume the Alex Mercer replacement.
I kinda like the idea of using a swarm of minis to dispose of a Sue. I like swarms.
... why yes, I do favor the Zerg in StarCraft.
Kekeke.
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Requesting beta readers! by
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Our mission is nearly complete! After almost a year of writing, all we need to do is have some kind people from the board look over the mission and make some comments.
The mission is set in the MLP universe, so knowledge of that continuum is needed. Also, we are not just looking for SPaG, but comments on the mission itself. Feel free to call out sections you think need workor inflate our egos by pointing out what worked. Just post your e-mail as a reply, and one of us will send you a link to the doc. - I'll take a look. by on 2015-02-10 03:22:00 UTC Link to this
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Thanks man. Shared the doc with you. by
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You did a great job last time. I'm thrilled to have you on board again.
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You called? by
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Iximaz, you already have my e-mail. I'll probably get a look at it tomorrow if possible!
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And if World-Jumper wants to share with me... by
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...my e-mail is skarmorysilver [at] gmail [dot] com.
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Thanks ; ) Shared the doc. (nm) by
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Put me in, coach! =] by
on 2015-02-09 23:51:00 UTC
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mwamenuptra at that dotcom mail service with a g at the front. =]
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Sent! Thanks for the help! (nm) by
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I'll Make A Man Out of You: Sporker Version by
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I converted I'll Make A Man Out of You from Mulan into something for the sporking community. I know it's not very original, but I hope you enjoy it anyways:
I'll Make A Critic Out Of You (I'll Make A Man Out Of You parody)
Let's get down to business
To review the fic
When I asked for sporkers,
Did they call in sick?
You're the dullest bunch
I ever met,
But you can bet
Before we're through,
Mister I'll make a critic out of you.
Tranquil as a load screen
But with flames within
Once you find your style,
You are sure to win.
You're a stupid, pale, pathetic lot,
And you haven't got a clue.
Somehow I'll make a critic out of you.
-Sporker Interlude-
Sporker 1: I'm never gonna see this through.
Sporker 2: Say goodbye to those who knew me!
Sporker 3: Boy was I a fool in school for cutting Lit!
Comment: What's this guy gonna make them do?
Sporker 4: Hope he doesn't come down to me!
Sporker 5: How could the author of this story be such a twit?
[Be a critic]
Wit as swift as the coursing river,
[Be a critic]
As vicious as a great typhoon,
[Be a critic]
With all the burn of a raging fire,
Mysterious as the dark side of YouTube!
Time is racing toward us
Till the next update.
Heed my every comment,
and we might not be late
You're unsuited for
The great flamewars
So close up, log out,
you're through.
How could I make a critic out of you?
[Be a critic]
Wit as swift as the coursing river,
[Be a critic]
As vicious as a great typhoon,
[Be a critic]
With all the burn of a raging fire,
Mysterious as the dark side of YouTube!
[Be a critic]
Wit as swift as the coursing river,
[Be a critic]
As vicious as a great typhoon,
[Be a critic]
With all the burn of a raging fire,
Mysterious as the dark side of YouTube! -
That's Absolutely Hilarious (nm) by
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DMS Mission #2 by
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"Little Green Mobs"
This is what happens when you leave a laptop in my room and don't keep an eye on me at 2 in the morning. XD
Meh, I'll probably update the Wiki tomorrow. I need to sleep. -
A review. by
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First, and foremost, well done. I like your writing style, and your agents fascinate me so. I find it interesting how Rayner hates badfic characters with such a passion, while if Marvin and Printworthy were to find him in a fic, they would probably jump for the kill. A human male Rainbow Dash that eats meat? Sounds like a Stu to me! That said, he is very fun to read. You have definitely expanded his character beyond what I would expect from such Gary Stus. I look forward to reading more about him in the future.
As for E.V.(i)L? She is the near perfect opposite of Rayner, in almost every way. She is sympathetic to badfic characters, he wants to see them all hang; she is light and highly magical, he is bulky with minor magic; the obvious male, female; and other contradictions. This provides wonderful opportunities for conflict. However, they will have to learn to at least respect each other before all too long. Two agents that hate each other and will always hate each other gets old after a while. I'm not saying they need to like each other in the next mission or anything, but do keep this in mind.
Now, mission itself. I already stated how I did not see how this mission should exist. The fic was bad, no question, and it was good to see it go. However, I am just not sure a PPC mission was the way to go about it. An MST? Particularly scathing review, ala Nostalgia Critic? I don't know. I do like the character exploration that goes on in this fic, however.
The minis are questionable, to say the least. I grumbled, but accepted that creepers should not be capitalized, and could make a mini. Fine. However, all of the others? They are not names. They are descriptions of enchantments. I may be wrong, but if somebody said something like Wingardleiam Levyosa in a badfic, it would not cause a mini. This is a grammar/spelling error, but not one that would cause minis. At least, in my view. How appropriate we have a topic discussing this very issue just a little further down on the page.
Now, onto more positive comments, as I do have a lot of them. First, I see you watch Game Theory. Creepers are plants that explode to spread seeds? Yeah, I know where you got that theory.
Salvo, now there is an interesting character. A creeper spy? We just have to make sure he does not feel threatened, or things could go real bad, real quick. I do like him though. Is it bad that I imagine him as dressed like a mob boss? Blocky cigar hanging out of his mouth, black suit, the works. Given his love for blue crystals, perhaps it would be best to keep him away from Breaking Bad badfic. Just saying... You know, all of the recruiting these two do will either give Rayner and E.V.L. all sorts of vacation time, or on the Sunflower Official's blacklist. We shall see.
Speaking of Salvo, I liked how E.V.L. was dead-set on recruiting him. You can just see her wanting to give these characters a second chance, not unlike herself. Oh, she may think she wants to kill them all, but deep down, she hopes she can be of use to somebody. ...Well, that or she is building an arly of badfic characters to take down the PPC. Either way, we will have to keep an eye on her.
Beyond that, I don't have much to say, other then well done. I like your style, and while Rayner may edge a little close on the Stu scale for my comfort, I look forward to reading more from these two. -
Re: A review. by
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I am more sorry than I can tell you for not responding to this sooner - my graduate paper has been sticking its metaphorical foot so far up my ass that I have to clean its metaphorical toejam off my teeth every morning. It should be mostly done, though, with some final reviews, so that should give me more time to take care of certain other things.
Anyway, can I squee? Yes? All righty then, SQUEEEEEEEEE! THANK YOU SO MUCH! I was so worried about this agent pair when I started out, especially because Rayner was brought in specifically to flesh out that awful mission that led Rashida to transfer to Floaters, but I am happy to see that he's coming out quite nicely. Ditto with E.V.L., who is actually an OC in one of my original story projects whom I figured would be worth exploring a little more by bringing her in as well. I do think the two of them will come to an understanding eventually, though of course it'll take a little while - especially since they're working towards a common goal.
I'll concede that the enchantment mini-creepers may have been overdoing it just slightly, but then again this is the PPC's first Minecraft mission, so it's natural to set some rules here. I'll keep the whole enchantment deal in mind if I ever revisit this continuum again, though!
I don't actually watch Game Theory (again, my graduate paper is my schedule's worst enemy), but I do go on the Minecraft Wiki every once in a while - and when I read that Notch described the physical texture of creepers as being plant-like, that was the first thing that came to my head. Coincidence, I swear! XD
Funny thing - PPC!Salvo is actually a bit of a composite character, because I had a creeper OC named Salvo back in my DeviantArt days who was coincidentally a lot like Number One, but I never got around to using him before leaving that site. Number One being the leader of an underground society of sentient talking creepers (and wearing a diamond helmet besides) made me think of dA!Salvo almost immediately, and though it was again almost entirely coincidental, I liked the similarity enough to apply dA!Salvo's character to Number One - not that it would have been a very big step.
I think E.V.L.'s logic in recruiting an arly - sorry, army - of badfic characters rather than killing them is a bit like fighting fire with fire. She knows what they're like and she knows that they can do better, so why not have them turn against the badfics that created them? Or the Sues/Stus of those fics, for that matter, due to these characters being created specifically because of their existence? That's actually my way of thinking as well - if there's enough of a personality for this bit character (or even this Sue) to be developed into a more well-rounded individual, then it would be a worthwhile investment to recruit him or her. I'm probably going to have to stop trying to stock up on recruits after the next solo mission I'm posting, though - I recruited no less than four characters from that badfic, more than in all of my previous solo missions put together.
Once again, thank you for the kind words as well as the constructive criticism - they're both really helpful for moving forward with my writing. And with that, I leave you with my celebratory squee of gratitude. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~! -
A short review. by
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I... eh. There's a few things about this mission which just bug me.
The first is absolutely not your fault, and is actually the reason the mission exists - the talking creepers. That's... pretty awful, and I'd've been tempted to just blow them all up.
The second thing is... sort of related to that: how exactly do you decide what the 'canon' consists of? I mean, canonically, Steve can't talk, and nothing has any personality, and you make things by putting objects side-by-side on a table-top and then magic. Minecraft... really isn't a game with a 'canon', particularly given how many mods there are out there. And then some of the little solid information we have - the creeper biology diagram - you reject, for... no real reason?
And... yeah. That said, the agent interactions were fun - it's more the very concept of the mission that I can't get to grips with.
hS
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When there's not much canon to work with by
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Technically, missions are written to protect "the canon", and that Minecraft doesn't have much canon. So what to do when we find a badfic in Minecraft?
All we know is this:
There's a world with widely spaced, low-tech villages whose inhabitants never leave. Magic exists, but only witches use it and then only to throw potions. Animals and monsters exist. There are ruined temples and mine shafts, implying that the tech level used to be higher than it is now. Two alternate dimensions exist. Except for horses, nothing has a gender. Physics works differently. The third wall is broken when the player kills the ender dragon, revealing that Minecraft is a multiverse with which Real World humans can interact.
And that's it, not much more to it than that. Everything else can be filled in with fan fiction. How did those ruined mineshafts get there if the villagers can't mine? Why are the jungle temples abandoned? Why do creepers blow up? Were the zombies and skeletons once alive? Who invented magic and built the strongholds? Is the blocky world an artifact of our interface, or is that really the way it looks to its inhabitants? Who are those two cosmic beings in the end poem, and what exactly are they smoking?
That's the beauty of a world where there's little canon--you can build your own. But it doesn't make such stories immune to critique. Fan fiction can be critiqued; original fiction can be critiqued. Fan fiction in a world where the canon is small, is halfway in between, and can be critiqued.
Just like any story, a story set in Minecraft needs to be well-written both in terms of mechanics and storytelling, logically consistent, with interesting characters. From the mission, this particular story wasn't actually horrible--but it was cliched, with characters that had very little personality. It's like something I might have written as a beginner; it's coherently written, but without much complexity. Everything happens in such a linear fashion that the entire plot can be predicted from the opening scenario.
When there's not much canon to defend, you can fall back on the universal rules of good writing. Here, they're rules like, "Characters should be distinguishable by personality," and, "Conflict should not be resolved without complications."
(A personal sticking point: "Heroic sacrifices are not a silver bullet and do not solve everything." It's as though writers think that just being desperate enough to make a sacrifice will automatically and always solve whatever problem a character is facing. In reality, these situations are rare. It's much more interesting to write a character who can make a heroic sacrifice if it's needed--but the interesting part comes from writing about a person with that sort of intense, caring, dedicated, or driven personality. The actual sacrifice need never actually occur. For example: Aragorn never actually got himself killed fighting for Middle-Earth, but you knew he wouldn't hesitate if it were asked of him--especially after he decided that being king is a responsibility he was willing to shoulder. Writing about a character out-of-the-blue dying for something is only melodrama. Instead, try writing about a character who is willing to live for something.)
A badfic written in a world with little canon is still not immune to critique. If a story is badly written, it's badly written, and your agents might as well go in and fix it. -
Nicely said. (nm) by
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I have to agree. by
on 2015-02-10 16:54:00 UTC
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Now, keep this in mind: I do not dislike this mission. It's rather good, for what it is. That said, I also have to wonder, why does this exist? Minecraft is a (purposefully) very open continuum. It is the most open sandbox game possible. There is no canon. So, why does it matter to protect it? Mini-creepers are cute, but not enough of a reason for the Flowers to waste resources fighting Sues in a world it does not affect.
Now, if you were to make the argument that allowing Sues to infest this world will allow them to spread en-mass to other worlds, I may be more inclined to accept that.
All of that aside, I do like the mission. Despite thinking it should not exist, I was very entertained. I will come back at a later time to give a more thorough review. -
Re: I have to agree. by
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To both of you, thanks! I had quite a bit of fun writing this one.
@Huinesoron: The bits about canonical info are rather flexible, and I've just changed up a few things to help keep it consistent with the game (the creeper anatomy thing now being acknowledged, for example). As for why this mission exists, well, see myexcuseexplanation below.
@World-Jumper: That's actually a pretty good argument there - and given how much resources you can get from the Minecraft world, I've decided that Sues that spawn or hide there could use it as a base of operations to invade other continua (I know of a number of mods that involve some of those being brought in unofficially). The fact that this world is so open may be a good excuse for them to roam and do things with impunity, and prepare for their own stupid stuff behind the backs of the PPC. I think the mini-creepers were just a side-effect of an exploratory mission involving the blandest badfic I've read so far.
I've edited the document accordingly. Thanks for the feedback, guys! :) -
You know a mission is good... by
on 2015-02-10 14:45:00 UTC
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... when someone enjoys it despite disliking the source material.
Yep, I don't much care for Minecraft. My attention span is apparently too short to build anything. It's one of the few games that it's more fun for me to watch than play.
Also, dibs on knockback. I will have all the minis. One mini from every continuum is my goal.
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It's all yours. I'll edit the doc accordingly. (nm) by
on 2015-02-10 17:49:00 UTC
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Minecraft fics? by
on 2015-02-10 14:30:00 UTC
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I had no idea there was enough canon for someone to write a Minecraft badfic. Nice mission though.
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Concrit time! by
on 2015-02-10 14:19:00 UTC
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"from The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and was an acceptable substitute"
The "and" shouldn't be there.
"(and rather karmatic, too...)"
The word you're looking for is karmic.
"Sunset the ocelot."
Ocelots turn into cats when tamed. With a name like Sunset, I assume Steve got an orange tabby.
"See, I told you they where his, Rayner thought to E.V.L."
"Were", not "where". :)
"“But I simply cannot stand being without my diamond hoard,” Number One pointed out. “At least, I couldn’t.”"
Uh...what? (Also, wow, you recruit a lot of characters, don't you?)
Anyway, great job! I didn't think Minecraft fanfic was possible for a long time either, to be honest. Have you watched Game Theory's video on creepers? They came up with the same "they're sentient plants that explode to spread their seeds" theory that you/Notch did. -
All fixed. Thanks! (nm) by
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Linguistics of Till We Have Faces by
on 2015-02-10 17:51:00 UTC
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I've been studying linguistics in my spare time, and I had the idea of trying to come up with a language history of Glome from the earliest reconstructable proto-language through the present day.
The canonical masculine suffixes are -in, -ia, and -om. The canonical feminine suffixes are -it, -ra, and -al. Whether this means three separate declensions, or fewer declensions with singulars and plurals (and maybe even a dual number), is not given. The neighboring kingdom of Essur also uses the -al suffix, as seen in the name Talapal.
As for where: Glome has mountains, and was in the Greek sphere of influence but not part of any of the Greek empires. That gives it a wide range of possibilities.
And how do I make sure FFN will recognize all the symbols? I figure most people's computers can display the Greek and Cyrillic alphabets, but some of the special characters needed for the IPA can get turned into boxes or question marks.
Lastly but most importantly, does FFN allow fictional articles?
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Introduction by
on 2015-02-10 20:36:00 UTC
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Hello! I am new to the PPC community, and I eventually want to write missions, but I know that will take time, and this seems to be a good place to start.
My main question is concerning confirmed troll fics, do they still count as bad, if they're doing it on purpose?
(Main reason I ask is that I found a community of Dangan Ronpa ones.)
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Welcome, fellow PJatO fan! by
on 2015-02-11 20:52:00 UTC
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Have one of my own shed feathers, along with a working replica of Riptide!
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Welcome by
on 2015-02-11 20:36:00 UTC
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Have a Zeus sock puppet. It may occasionally shock you but it usually isn't lethal.
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Hello. by
on 2015-02-11 03:47:00 UTC
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Have some lemon flavored mayonnaise.
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Welcome to the madhouse! by
on 2015-02-11 03:31:00 UTC
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Have some movie-theater popcorn (to eat while you read the Original Series and Constitution) and a Steve Jobs-style black turtleneck!
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Hi! Here's a towel. by
on 2015-02-11 01:19:00 UTC
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You can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapors; you can sleep under it beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon; use it to sail a miniraft down the slow heavy River Moth; wet it for use in hand-to-hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious fumes or avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (such a mind-boggingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you); you can wave your towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off with it if it still seems to be clean enough.
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Hello. by
on 2015-02-10 23:09:00 UTC
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Here's a virtual bag of bolts and crossbow for you. Right now I like Parasyte, Vinland Saga, History Channel Vikings, Legend of Korra, and had just acquinted to Adventure Time. What's your fandom?
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Hello! by
on 2015-02-10 23:02:00 UTC
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Have a bottomless bag to store your other gifts--it comes equipped with pockets so you shouldn't lose anything inside.
I might be wrong, but I think the definition of a troll fic is that it's bad on purpose. Whether or not it's funny or worth reading is harder to say, probably depends on whether or not the fic is a good parody. -
Welcome by
on 2015-02-10 22:08:00 UTC
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Hi welcome to the ppc, hope you have fun here. Please take this wilver sword
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Welcome!!! by
on 2015-02-10 22:04:00 UTC
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Here have a Magic Ring that gives you a clown nose when you wear it as a welcome gift!
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Welcome by
on 2015-02-10 21:35:00 UTC
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Heylo greetings and stuff!
I'll point you toward the Constitution, Original Series and Wiki, then give you this beautiful cup of tea. Don't let the leaves eat you! -
First plover! (nm) by
on 2015-02-10 21:34:00 UTC
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Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel. by
on 2015-02-10 21:14:00 UTC
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It's a +3 vicious shovel! Careful, it does recoil damage.
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Hello! by
on 2015-02-10 21:11:00 UTC
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Welcome to the community! For your newbie gift, here's a Quantum Clown Car. It should be safe, but it doesn't really like mimes. Stay away from them and it shouldn't explode!
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Newbie! *glomp* *poke* by
on 2015-02-10 21:04:00 UTC
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Hello, and welcome aBoard! Take this plate of freshly-made SPaGhetti, and this chirping pocket manatee! If the urple bow around its neck becomes too much, feel free to remove it. ;)
There is, in fact, a Troll Division of the Department of Bad Parody.
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Re: Newbie! *glomp* *poke* by
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Thank you everybody! I'm going to need at least 1 magical backpack to hold all the stuff!
Please don't glomp me.
I will definitely look into the Troll Division.
I didn't realize about Moon Daughter, I typed it into the wiki, and didn't get any hits, so I assumed it was free.
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When you say "wait [your] turn"... by
on 2015-02-11 21:14:00 UTC
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I assume you're talking about Permission? If you want to eventually get Permission, might I suggest checking out this Wiki article? It has pretty much everything you need to know.
But we're not all about missions here, you know! Just hang out, chat a bit, don't be afraid to jump in on a discussion. I promise we don't bite, so no need to be nervous. ;) (Also, sorry about the glomping. I just love seeing newbies. *offers apology SPaGhetti*) -
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Yeah, I'm referring to Permission, I jump the gun a lot so... *accepts apology SPaGhetti* This stuff reminds me of SpagBol...I can never remember how to spell it.