For those of you who have been following my Bakugan/Pokémon crossover The Vexos Chronicles, I've recently posted Chapter 14 of my fic yesterday.
For the benefit of any newbies that might be interested in my fic, here is the link to Chapter 1: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9697398/1/The-Vexos-Chronicles-Part-I-Lost-Luster
At this point, I will be going on a short hiatus from posting chapters since, after some consultation with my betas, I have concluded that a rewrite of at least the early chapters would be in order. As before, any concrit would be definitely appreciated, especially if you're a Boarder that's a fan of only one of the crossed-over fandoms.
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Vexos Chronicles Chapter 14 published! by
on 2014-10-21 01:26:00 UTC
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Check it out, we're getting good press! by
on 2014-10-21 15:55:00 UTC
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Sannse, a member of Wikia's Community Support Team, has complimented our wiki in her latest blog post, "These Are a Few of My Favorite Wikias." Nice, huh? {= ) Thought I'd mention it here, since I don't know how many of you watch the wiki closely enough to notice the post she made on my User Talk page.
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What a Pleasant Surprise (nm) by
on 2014-10-22 18:54:00 UTC
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Well Well by
on 2014-10-22 01:45:00 UTC
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Getting to the top of the list is really impressive. The amount of praise the wiki got was also pretty impressive too.
P.S.: reading the blog post while listening to "Dream of Butterfly" was just awesome
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Neato! (nm) by
on 2014-10-22 01:22:00 UTC
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Woohoo! by
on 2014-10-22 00:22:00 UTC
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That's awesome. ^_^
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Woo-hoo, we're famous! :D (nm) by
on 2014-10-21 21:26:00 UTC
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Awesome! by
on 2014-10-21 20:04:00 UTC
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Glad to see some publicity! I always find it hard to explain exactly what the PPC is whenever someone asks, so perhaps just saying "Look up the Wiki for it" might be a good idea.
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Cool! by
on 2014-10-21 16:13:00 UTC
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I guess that sort of reaction explains the huge number of people who show up here saying 'I found the wiki, and months later I found the Board...'. I've not really noticed the just-one-more-click effect myself... huh.
Also: hey, we come in above the TARDIS wikia. That's... that's really impressive. Heck, even being mentioned in the same article as the TARDIS wiki is impressive.
Hang on, I've got it around here somewhere... [Digs through his heap of junk and pulls out Morale Officer bjam's placard] Go PPC!
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Nice (nm) by
on 2014-10-21 16:06:00 UTC
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New Mission in a new Continuua! (I think.) by
on 2014-10-21 19:54:00 UTC
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vuzx2VH4Qs9_J2nODiZ7xCvScdk3rguT1zzoulSA16A/edit?usp=sharing
My impatience is probably gonna get the better of me one of these days. Still, I quintuple-checked everything this time around; hopefully it'll be enough!
I'm editing the Wiki right now, but I seem to be having some problems (yes, I'm using the tutorial, Nesh), but that'll be all fixed up ASAP. -
Caught you! by
on 2014-10-24 20:42:00 UTC
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Halt moved silently through the portal. By the time Randa stepped through behind them and got the portal closed, he had already bound and gagged the possessed Rangers.
Behind Halt and who else? This should be "him".
I see that doctorlit already mentioned the continuity problem, so I’m not sure whether you tried to fix it, but it’s still there. I’d sugest to split this one paragraph, like:
"And the Bleeprin is like a job-required vaccination," Randa added. "You wouldn't send relief workers into Africa without making sure that they were safe from malaria or whatever, would you? Rina just had an allergic reaction to it –"
"So I'll use Suebuprofen instead," interjected Rina.
Randa shot Rina a glance and shook her head almost imperceptibly. Rina frowned, wondering what her friend was trying to say.
Thus Randa doesn’t contradict herself when she explains that Rina cannot use Suebuprofen either.
Other than that, it’s a really good mission. I like the ongoing effects of the melted trees and how you brought Rina’s family in.
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Duly noted. by
on 2014-10-24 22:37:00 UTC
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I was trying to figure out how that was a continuity problem- I guess when I wrote it, I was thinking Randa would suggest it and then glance at Rin a to say, 'sorry, it's actually not gonna work', but now I see how that would be confusing.
And AGGHHH! *tears at hair* I knew being impatient would trip me up, and I think there have been about three typos pointed out now. *bows head in shame* I promise I'll use your wonderful Beta services next time, O Great Greybeard. (Funny story, in Ranger's Apprentice, Will makes up a song about 'Greybeard Halt'. Just thought you'd be amused.)
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Send it. (nm) by
on 2014-10-24 23:51:00 UTC
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It seems like the same thing's happening. by
on 2014-10-25 00:47:00 UTC
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I tried using the email you provided in the thread below, and got the message that it's not a valid email address. Any idea why?
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No idea, but a sugestion by
on 2014-10-25 09:39:00 UTC
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I receive automatic messages from the board, so it obviously works.
You may leave the link on my user talk page on the wiki. It’s less public than the board, and I can edit it out when I have seen it. You may also leave your e-mail adress. Then we can check whether you can receive a mail from my account and whether you can respond to it.
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Okay then. by
on 2014-10-25 12:39:00 UTC
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I'll derp around, see if I can find it. :P
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IÂ’m beginning to wonder whether my beta reading is cursed. by
on 2014-10-26 10:25:00 UTC
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There is still no new content on my talk page.
I have to go biking with my wife now. I’ll be back this evening (mid-european time).
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Can I use the excuse... by
on 2014-10-27 00:07:00 UTC
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...that I went out with Darkotas to celebrate his upcoming birthday, and was unable to access a computer for the rest of my Saturday? No? :(
Anyway, I'll go post the link and my email there. Thanks for linking it; I honestly was unable to find it. I'm so bad at the internet. -
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I'm really liking your missions. They're extremely character-driven, without going into crazy, complex back-stories: it's just two gals talking to each other, doing their job and suffering together.
Another thing you're really good at is keeping track of details, instead of forgetting them down a plothole like the author did to that poor wolf. I was actually hoping you feed the Sue to wolves at the beginning, because of that whole, "my mom got eaten by wolves but I'm totally okay with this one" thing. I'm especially glad you let the actual CAF wolf be the one to do it, poor thing! It must have been so hungry! Uh, but I was saying, you did a great job not forgetting the melted tree gunk and the pain in Rina's fist from hitting another tree, but making them continue to affect the characters and their equipment over an appropriate time. (Super empathy with the punching thing, 'cause I've done my share of smacking hard, inanimate things when I get frustrated.)
Also, on behalf of some of my coworkers, thank you for that moment of rage at leaving a horse saddled overnight. People don't realize how INCREDIBLY painful and sore it is for horses to be left saddled for extended periods. Between the wolf and the horse, Alis was treating every animal she came across like a tool. Ugh.
The scene with Rina's family at the end is interesting. Different for sure, since we only see interaction with an agent's family once in a blue moon. I admit, I found Mr. Dives' reaction to be unrealistically mellow about the situation. I know it's not his initial reaction, since he's been in HQ a while before we see him in Medical, but it still seems like he would be more defensive of his daughter. (If Mr. Dives is based on a real personality, then I apologize for, uh. Being completely wrong about the unrealistic thing.) I do like the reactions of Mrs. Dives and Alex, though, and I love that the whole family seems to have some level of active fandom. I'm totally calling Alex becoming an agent eventually!
The one major error I noticed is that Randa is the one who initially suggests Rina can use Suebuprofen in lieu of Bleeprin, but for the rest of the story, they act like Rina is the one who said it, and Randa is the one to later say Rina can't use Suebuprofen due to her allergy.
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Re: mission by
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Glad to hear you liked the mission! You can congratulate Randa on coming up with the idea of feeding the Sue to her pet wolf. And I do agree, the poor thing must have been nearly dead. I almost adopted him, but the RC's already getting crowded enough what with the barking owl and mini-Aragog.
There's something just so... therapeutic about punching things. It's when they hit back that you start having problems. >D As a matter of fact, when I read that she left the poor horse saddled overnight, I nearly punched my screen. YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT. EVER.
*ahem*
Believe it or not, unless you wake my dad up when he's trying to get some sleep, he's actually that mellow. Between his relaxed attitude and my mom's uptight, Percy Weasley-ish approach, they balance each other out pretty nicely.
And Alex has already introduced himself on the Board as Kranlor, but he's not much of a writer. I think he secretly lurks on the Board and reads missions when I'm not looking, because he mentions stuff like character replacements in casual conversation.
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That was me, by the way. Sorry. by
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I swear I was still logged in when I first started typing, so I must have been writing that comment through the exact moment I last logged in a month ago. Stupid machines.
Yeah, that wolf is better off in the wild. Maybe he'll hunt down some Sues of his own, now that he's got the taste!
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Looks like you missed an opportunity. by
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You reveal that Rina has a bleach allergy - in a story which has bleach in it - and you didn't make use of that fact? Tsk, tsk. ;)
But no, that was fun. I'm not a big fan of the 'quote all the things!' style of missions, but it was fun anyway. I think I could ignore it more because I don't know the first thing about the canon, so the badfic quotes served as an introduction of sorts (at least, once R&R had corrected them ^-^). I particularly liked the part where Randa had to muddle through by herself after Rina was invalided out; always fun to see agents in a fix.
And the ending -- eek. I'm glad none of my agents have ever let their families come through to HQ. I thought the scene was well done, and definitely agree with Mrs. Dives' hallucination theory - though I would have liked to see her ranting at the Sunflower Official.
I guess that sequence was a bit like the New Who habit of letting companions go home occasionally... okay, now I'm imagining the SO as a Time Lord (Thyme Lord?) complaining about 'domestics - in myTARDISHQ!'. And now I'm imagining The Time Lord AU PPC - the Multiversal Intervention Agency? Oh dear. Look what you did.
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...Time Lord AU PPC? by
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Multiversal Intervention Agency, Take One
The Multiversal Intervention Agency had only two rules: first, no skiving off. And second, no building death rays.
The third rule was 'don't be lasagna', which had actually happened once, whereupon the rule had been tacked on. With actual tacks.
The Thyme Lord would have liked to think it ruled the MIA* with an iron fist, but as it lacked both fists and iron, it had to make do with tasty leaves instead. That is, the agents assumed they were tasty. No one had ever dared to find out.
(Once, an agent had attempted to determine whether the Thyme Lord was really made of thyme, or was simply a hologram. Of course, the agent attempted to find out by going up close to the Thyme Lord...and sniffing. Being Jewish, the agent first made the blessing of 'boreh minei b'samim'--'Creator of fragrant grasses'.)
(The Thyme Lord was in no way amused.)
The Sage, who ran the Department of Untangling, did its best never to be afraid of being put into a lasagna. Despite this, some fear did seep through, to the point where agents were forbidden to eat--or even chew--within two rooms-lengths. As MIA HQ had a tendency to transport its those who transversed it in both time and space, most agents elected to simply leave, eat, and then attempt to come back earlier.
('Attempt' was the key term. It was hardly unknown for agents to get lost in time and emerge weeks, months, minutes, or years later. Agent Acacia had once switched places with some kid with the surname Illian; five Technicians had worked feverishly to fix this, and managed with some helpful prodding from Acacia's friend, the Thorn--well, Agent Thorntree, really, but only Acacia called her that.)
The Parsley Duke, who headed up the specialized Tea Cafeteria, greatly enjoyed eavesdropping. It (or, occasionally, he) most certainly did not relish the thought of one day being mistaken for tea leaves; fortunately, most agents tended to avoid trying to put giant stalks of parsley in their cups of boiling water, and simply talked instead.
"Lady Rosemary wants to see me," one agent said mournfully. She sipped at her tea, and made a face. "I did fine on my last mission, you know. No one regenerated. No Reapers turned up. I didn't even create any temporal paradoxes. Why's she want to see me?"
The second agent (on xir fifth cup, the Parsley Duke noted approvingly) shrugged. "Was it a Doctor/Master fic again?"
"Ugh," the first agent agreed. "I don't remember what good slash looks like anymore, y'know?"
The second agent patted her hand sympathetically, and passed the tea leaves.
(At that point, the entirety of the Continuity Council of Gallifrey-in-Exile blew into the Tea Cafeteria, and the Parsley Duke was understandably distracted. That group drank a lot of tea, and in very odd combinations, to boot.)
"Cranberry-Cinnamon for the Notary," Morgan began. "Vanilla-Maple-Grass for Fish, the Reader'll have something orange with a dash of whiskey, Dis and the Agent can order for themselves, thanks, and I want the strongest black tea you've got in stock. Oh, and that stuff that smells like dust for the Librarian." With that done, everyone but the Disentangler and the Agent left to find tables, arguing all the way.
"Lemon Zinger for him, Blueberry Whateveritis for me," the Disentangler said, and dragged the Agent away from the counter.
This left the Parsley Duke to organize beverages, while keeping a wary eye on the Council of Time Lords...
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*The MIA? hS, did you do that on purpose, or was it a happy accident?
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And there I'm ending this, because it's getting long and I have no clue where it's really going after this. Well, apart from a Continuity Council conversation, but I think this is enough for one post, don't you?
(So, how's the AU that no one asked me to write? Talk about 'look what you've done'--I don't even remember why I clicked on this post to begin with, apart from possibly finding out what the missed opportunity was. I haven't even read the mission yet.)
(I'm curious, though...)
Well. Hope someone enjoyed. The bit about the Thyme Lord-sniffing agent is courtesy of a friend, who suggested it.
May we all have very good cups of tea. Yum!
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Conversation, you say? (Anyone up for one?) by
on 2014-10-23 06:46:00 UTC
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Morgan took a swig of her black tea - it actually seemed to have edged into vantablack territory - and grimaced. "Yep, still vile."
"Then why are you drinking it?" the Reader asked.
"It keeps me alert and grumpy," Morgan said. "Now then, people - thoughts?"
"I still do not trust this place," the Notary said, and sipped her own concoction. "Ahhh. Though I must note yet again that they make truly excellent tea."
"'Don't trust?'" The Disentangler scoffed. "Wasn't it your TARDIS that brought us here?"
"Correction," the Notary replied in the tone of one who had said the same thing many times before (though she pretty much always talked like that), "it was my TARDIS that brought us here the first time. Which, a) did not require you to pick up your own and 'suggest' a return trip, and b) would not have happened at all were a certain Ruby Shipwright doing his job."
"Huh? Me? What?" The Fisherman turned a glare on his Vanilla-Maple-Grass tea. "That's what happens when I let myself get distracted by you," he accused it. "What've I done?"
"According to our precise colleague here, not your job," the Librarian supplied. "Though I remain unconvinced that fixing her TARDIS falls under your position."
"What, that old wreck?" The Fisherman shook his head firmly. "Nah, I'm responsible for HQ's TARDISes, not blockade runners stolen from the Time War."
"I did not steal it," the Notary growled. "I simply-"
"Borrowed it without the intent to return?" the Agent chimed in.
"Quiet, renegade."
"I have to admit I have some concerns about this place as well," the Librarian cut in, draining the last of his tea. "Professionally speaking, I mean."
Morgan frowned. "Does it really fall under the Jade Warden's responsibility?"
"I can't see who else would take it," the Reader pointed out. "It's not a TARDIS problem-"
"I dunno," the Fisherman muttered, "some of these temporal effects, their whole HQ might well be a TARDIS."
"- it's certainly not a theoretical issue," the Reader went on, not missing a beat. "It's not something I should be monitoring, it doesn't come from TV or other media canon, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't need the attentions of Rassilon's Advocate there. So what does that leave?"
"It could be a security issue," Morgan suggested in a low voice, one hand stroking the grip of her gun.
"Yeah, but it's not," the Reader countered. "It's a fake PPC filled with Time Lords."
"There's still no evidence of that," the Disentangler pointed out. "You three have been going on about 'oh, they're all Time Lords here, isn't it amazing-slash-terrifying', but have we seen anyone regenerating? Have we performed open-heart surgery to check? Can we feel them?"
"Not being able to sense them fits entirely within the theory that we have entered an alternate multiverse-" the Notary began, only to be cut off by the Disentangler.
"Sorry, was someone talking? I must have been ignoring them." She took one last gulp from her cup and set it down firmly. "Anyway, there's one thing we can all agree on, with the possible exception of Grumpy In Orange: whoever they are, they make fantastic tea."
"Hear, hear," the Agent said, getting to his feet. "Want another one?"
"Would blow up a star for one. Same again, please."
In my defence, you never said it wasn't our Continuity Council on a multiversal excursion. Also they're really fun to write. ^-^
More generally: oh, all of my yes. :D This was great fun to read, and fell neatly the right side of ridiculous. The idea of all the Flowers being herbs is, uh, weird but hilarious.
And no, I'm afraid 'MIA' was entirely accidental. I'd love to claim credit, but I can't. :(
(Also: I love the idea of 'the Thorn'. Though, which Illian kid were you thinking of...?)
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I demand a Tea Cafeteria immediately. {X D (nm) by
on 2014-10-22 20:47:00 UTC
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Well, if you insist :) by
on 2014-10-22 22:43:00 UTC
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Neshomeh's Tea Cafeteria
"Seriously, do any of you know where this came from?" Agent Edgar crossed his arms, trying to spot aguiltyknowledgeable face. "Anyone?"
Agent Desdendelle shrugged. "It's a Tea Cafeteria. Does anyone really care where it came from?"
"But it wasn't here before," Agent Agen_t put in. Ze crossed zir arms as well, for all of two seconds. "And no one can get into it."
At that, the door opened, and a woman's head popped out. "What are you all yelling about?"
Agent Supernumerary sighed. "Agent Neshomeh. It would be you."
"Neshomeh!" Des' greeting was more animated. "How'd you get in?"
Neshomeh shrugged. "I read the sign."
"What sign?"
"Oh--" The Archivist disappeared behind the door, and was presumably the source of the rummaging noises that followed. Soon after, she reappeared. "Here. It fell down, so I brought it in, but it was still up when I got here."
She held up a sign (more of a placard, really, made of heavy wood and with traces of sticky tack* on the back), and the other agents gathered round to read it.
This is Neshomeh's Tea Cafeteria, went the words. Prepare to drink, all ye who enter here!
There was a tiny Arrr! in the bottom right-hand corner, just in case anyone had missed the linguistic resemblance to a treasure map.
"Oh," said Desdendelle. "So this is yours, then." He seemed a little disappointed.
Neshomeh nodded, grinning. "Yes! It's mine. Want to come in?"
"Yes." The reply came from most of the agents there.
Supernumerary hesitated. "Exactly how loud--"
The Notary pushed past him, heading straight for the Earl Grey, and he lost track of the sentence.
"It's a Tea Caf, not a bar," Edgar told the older agent, and followed the others in.
After a little more thought, Supernumerary decided to try it, and joined the others inside.
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*This is Blu Tac, if you're British. I've forgotten what any other variations are called, but it's basically that blue or white stuff that's mushy and will stick pictures to the wall. It...doesn't really work too well with a lot of weight, at least not for very long.
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You or someone else can take it from there, but there you go. You now have a Tea Cafeteria. Be sure to share the Bleeptea with Des (and anyone else who wants it!)
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*cheers and claps from a Whovian freak* (nm) by
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*laughter and applause* (nm) by
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Wait, I... I... uh. by
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Bleeprin. Brain bleach plus aspirin.
*headdesk*
The really sad part is I actually cut out a fair amount from the badfic, and I'm not even including the last ten or so chapters that I cut out entirely. And I felt Randa should get her own chance to shine- glad to know it went well! Or , as well as can be expected? Hmm.
In all honesty? I kept scrapping the parts I wrote involving Mrs. Dives shouting at the SO because it kept getting repetitive and I got the niggling feeling I was misrepresenting his personality. Next time I want to write a mission with an appearance by the SO, I'll definitely wait to post until someone looks it over.
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Thyme Lords indeed!
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("Continua" is a plural noun, "continuum" is the singular. Just FYI)
Well done, Iximaz! That sequence with Rina's family at the end was very emotional. I'm not sure how I should feel about her mom's epic freakout; it's totally justified, of course, but the fact that it's just her mom freaking out while her dad and brother are calmer about this...yeah, that has some weird implications. (At least if you're like me and overthink these things.) Also, unless I'm missing some detail, she would more than likely have been in the room for Randa's infodump.
Another little detail I noticed was Rina and Randa's evaporating CAD. I liked that! Usually they BSOD, overheat and melt, or explode; somehow, the idea of a machine evaporating is funnier. (Good luck to whichever DoSAT guy/girl/starfish has to clean the tree goo off the RA, though...) Their banter/snark was good, too; relevant and witty without dissolving (too often) into CAPSLOCK OF RAGE.
This was an enjoyable read, even for someone who doesn't know Ranger's Apprentice (yet). *gives box of chocolate Klondike bars* Keep up the good work! -
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*blushie face*
You can probably tell, but I drew on past experiences to write the bit at the end. My mom is, believe it or not, extremely grounded in reality and needs solid proof of anything before she believes it. She's also extremely strict with me when it comes to rules. Admittedly, I was upset with her when I first wrote the scene, but ended up scrapping the original and redoing it.
(And, when I asked her what she'd do if she found out I was working for an organization where psychic plants were in charge and my job was to go out and hunt universe-warping people, she looked at me and said she'd ground me forever. Completely poker-faced. I still can't tell if she was messing with me or not.)
I'd never seen a CAD evaporate either- I'm glad you found the idea as funny as I did! I can't tell you just how insanely OOC it is for Halt to laugh- it takes a lot for him to give you a genuine smile, and I can count on one hand the number of times that happened over twelve books.
I've got the next mission finished, due to the fact that the offending fic was only two chapters in length, but there won't be any mention of the poor sap who gets to deal with the gunk until mission five, which is already started. I'll probably post it sometime next week.
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Abridged Series? by
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Boo.
I'm back, sorta. I'll be popping in and out every few weeks or something.
Anyways, what are your opinions on "Abridged Series"?
For those that have no clue what I'm talking about, an Abridged Series is a series of Youtube vids that use clips from the actual canon show, strung together with new (fan) voice actors going along a script written by what I will refer to as the Writer. (This is your author.)
The whole point of an Abridged Series is that every character in it is a replacement, EVERY SINGLE ONE, yet they usually follow a rough outline of the canon universe's plot.
An interesting example is "My Little Pony: The (Abridged) Mentally Advanced Series" by FiMFlamFilosophy. Here's a link to the MLP Fan Labor Wiki page for the series itself and its characters, because as I said, every character is a replacement.
As for why it's interesting? You might have seen it in one of the two pages I linked, you might not have, but FiMFlamFilosophy (with the aid of artist Petirep as badfic don't have clips to redub) has created a spinoff of his own Abridged Series called "Rainbow Dash Presents," essentially using the replacements from "The Mentally Advanced Series" to make an Abridged Series style sporking of badfic, including a self-spork of his own fic, "A Beautiful Day in Equestria,"- and he insists in the last part of the video that the video's ending is the 'canon' ending to the fic. Here's a link to the MLP Fan Labor Wiki page.
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The word you're looking for is "parody." by
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As the intro to every DragonBall Z Abridged episode helpfully explains, it and all the abridged series are fan-based parodies. The personalities of the characters are deliberately exaggerated to highlight their idiosyncrasies, flaws, plotholes in their canon, etc. Because that's what parodies do. For humor. (Close kin to what PPC missions do to badfics, in fact.) Calling them out for creating character replacements seems to be massively missing the point, IMO.
That doesn't mean they're all done as well as Team Four Star's stuff—the PPC has a Department of Bad Parody for a reason—but I'd advise against tossing out the entire concept based on how you feel about just one or two of 'em.
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Ehh, I don't actually think I got my personal opinion across well.
Yes, I know that they're parodies, and personally, I like the idea myself. However, I'm a guy that goes to 8chan, so my opinion might be biased, and I was wanting to see what you guys thought about abridged series.
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They're all right, I guess. I haven't seen too many, and they strike me more as gag dubs than actual abridgements.
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Hey hey, you're back! by
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Kinda. *thows cakefetti*
Anyway, I'm a big fan of Avatar: The Abridged Series. I think it's mostly because the characters are so wildly OOC that I find them funny, because it's not meant to be a serious representation of canon. To be fair, not all of them are good. Ones that rely on jokes involving male genitalia are usually the bad ones.
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on 2014-10-22 04:22:00 UTC
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I'm back from London! It was awesome and stuff. You guys get no chocolates because the guys at the office finished them, so you'll have to do with Bleeptea and this lame picture (neither me nor my friend are good with cameras).
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So are you the guy in the brown jacket? (nm) by
on 2014-10-24 02:00:00 UTC
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*Longcoat. (nm) by
on 2014-10-24 16:37:00 UTC
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Did you go on the London Eye? (nm) by
on 2014-10-22 14:50:00 UTC
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-waves back- by
on 2014-10-22 13:40:00 UTC
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Thanks for the Bleeptea! Is it safe to add honey?
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Probably. (nm) by
on 2014-10-23 04:28:00 UTC
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*glomps* by
on 2014-10-22 11:23:00 UTC
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Aww, no chocolate at all? Darn. And I'm gonna have to pass on the Bleeptea. ;)
So how was London? Is 'fun' really all we get to hear? (And this is bizarre; from what I can tell, your blurry picture looks just like the one Rats did in the thread further down the page.) -
-Is glomped- by
on 2014-10-23 04:36:00 UTC
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I was waiting for someone to ask. It was mostly a museums vacations - that picture is, obviously, from the British Museum - but surprisingly the two highlights were the raspberry and peach crumble I ate in a pub called Marquis Cornwallis and Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park, which is like reading YouTube comments only live and so much funnier.
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*is jealous* by
on 2014-10-24 01:57:00 UTC
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I've wanted to go to the British Museum for several years now. :/ And now you've made me hungry. *mutters* Recipie for raspberry and peach crumble...
Do tell me more about this Speaker's Corner! *sits up eagerly* It sounds like that was your favorite part. -
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on 2014-10-24 17:41:00 UTC
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Basically, Speakers' Corner is the northwestern area of Hyde Park, near the Marble Arch. It's a place where everybody can take a stepladder, a chair, or whatever and start talking about whatever, and crowd heckles them (the good ones respond to the hecklers). Like everything else, the speakers are covered under Sturgeon's Law, which means 90% of them are rubbish, but even the rubbish ones can be amusing.
Two cases in point: there was this Muslim (probably Pakistani) guy with their weird head-covering and an honest-to-God Abayah who talked about the usual religious stuff; heckling him was a fat, bespectacled and thoroughly unpleasant Briton. As I've said before - YouTube comments, but live and funnier.
The other case was a sort of Evangelist with a huge Bible in one hand; he spent his time shouting through a toothless Egyptian cabbie.
What left me impressed, however, were two guys I met in random. One was born in 1939 and remembers the German Blitz; talk about history (he also believes Jesus converted to Hinduism for some reason, but that's another thing). I met the second guy when I commented to nobody in particular that Abayah guy and his hecklers didn't know how to debate, and this guy agreed with me. Turns out he's from Kuwait, and the sweet part that when I told him I am from Israel, he didn't start spitting curses at me and in fact remained civil and polite. Makes me think there's hope for this place yet. -
That's all fascinating! by
on 2014-10-25 00:51:00 UTC
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Seriously, why aren't the rest of you wanting to know more?
Des, if you ever want to talk about anything random, I'm more than willing to listen. :D Even if I'm not much a fan of tea. *ducks* -
Heretic! Fiend! Usurer! by
on 2014-10-25 09:43:00 UTC
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How dare you imply that tea isn't the single most important desire of all humanity!
Kidding. I'm a live-and-let-live person. Plus, all the coffee-drinkers simply mean I have more tea to myself.
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I thought those were supposed to go as servants? by
on 2014-10-25 12:47:00 UTC
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Maybe it changed over the centuries.
And as much as I love coffee, I'm not allowed to have it except on special occasions, like road trips to see the grandparents. Mom thinks it'll make my ADHD worse. D:
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If I remember correctly... by
on 2014-10-25 15:08:00 UTC
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There were two major types of Shabti. One type is where the figurine is part of a spell, in which case there's usually a cartouche with at least part of the incantation on it. The second type is that servant/go to work in my stead thingy.
Anyway, re: coffee and tea: I know that coffee has a bad effect on you if you're not used to it - last time I drank coffee, I got all jittery and my knees became wobbly-er than jelly. Tea doesn't have that effect on me, and anyway it tastes so much better. -
Heh, this reminds me of something. by
on 2014-10-25 16:53:00 UTC
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I pretty much started drinking coffee at work (sometimes you just need the caffeine) and one of the first times one of my coworkers saw me drinking coffee was also the first time I talked about the current, absurdingly stupid Formula 1 rules with him.
His comment on the matter? "No more coffee for you."
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LotR/Men in Black mission plug! by
on 2014-10-22 09:09:00 UTC
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... and it's not a Driftwood mission!
Yes, for numerous reasons, including a whole day with no internet access, a busy weekend, and certain moral quandaries surrounding clubbing little girls with DVD cases (now resolved, don't fret), I do not have a PPC: Driftwood mission to release today. Of course, I never said I'd be doing them weekly anyway, but, y'know.
Instead, I can release the next report from DOGA's most currentest agent, Huinesoron:
Empire State of Mind
The preamble can be blamed on Neshomeh and JulyFlame, or possibly they can be thanked for it: you decide!
As always, reviews are very welcome - and if you see any errors, let me know and I'll fix them!
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Uh... by
on 2014-10-24 02:42:00 UTC
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I took a look at the badfic, and maybe I missed something, but I did not see how you came to the conclusion that the "You" character was Arwen. It seemed like "You" was some random half-Elf that dated Elrond. Could you please clarify?
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Two facts: by
on 2014-10-24 07:43:00 UTC
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1/ She's a half-elf, of which there are... two female ones? (Or three if you count Luthien, but 'half-elf' usually implies 'and half-mortal').
2/ She 'dates' 'high kings of half the world', which sounds like Aragorn and... no-one else. The High Kings of the Noldor ruled fairly small areas.
Oh, and:
3/ She's explicitly stated to be in the LotR books. 'If you read this, you'll learn she's a half-elf'. Name the half-elves in The Lord of the Rings. ;)
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Answering question number 3 by
on 2014-10-24 16:36:00 UTC
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Lessie: Elrond, Eladan, Elrohir, Arwen. Aragorn isn't half-Elf but he has Elf blood.
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Come on, you can do better than that. ;) by
on 2014-10-24 16:48:00 UTC
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In the 'elven blood' category, we also have Imrahil of Dol Amroth (probably) and Finduilas his sister. In 'actual half-Elves', we have Eldarion son of Elessar and Arwen, and Luthien the Nightingale. I know, she doesn't actually appear - but she does have a whole song about her. ;) Oh, and of course Earendil - he does appear, though only at a distance.
The question of whether you count the mentions of Elros in the appendices... well. Let's leave that open.
(And presumably, most of the Dunedain have some elven blood... not sure 'Halbarad Half-Elven' would fly, though)
Uhm... have I missed anyone out?
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Hrm by
on 2014-10-24 18:33:00 UTC
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I didn't count the appendices, so Elros, Finduilas and Eldarion don't count. Imrahil is a question mark (probably) so I didn't count him, either. Luthien doesn't appear, per se (because being sung about isn't an appearance, that's being mentioned). Earendil - where does he appear? Galadriel's mirror?
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In the night sky? by
on 2014-10-24 19:10:00 UTC
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He's the Evening And Morning Star these days, remember. Frodo gets a bottle of his light. I can't cite a specific page where they actually see the star, but it's definitely there in some scenes.
And if you try and exclude him on the grounds that all they see is the light of the Silmaril bound on his brow, you're going to have to exclude Sauron as a character, too. ;)
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Sauron? I don't believe he exists. (nm) by
on 2014-10-24 19:18:00 UTC
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Not true by
on 2014-10-24 19:13:00 UTC
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since Sauron is Maia, not half-elf.
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Or so they say. by
on 2014-10-24 20:05:00 UTC
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But yes - and if Des claims that Earendil isn't in the book as a character because we only see his gem, he'll also have to say Sauron isn't in the book as a character - which would be an impressive feat for the primary antagonist. ^-^
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Actually... by
on 2014-10-24 20:24:00 UTC
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There's this scene near the the end - after Gollum gets deep-fried - that you actually see Sauron-as-Barad-Dur, so yes, he makes an appearance. Unlike Earendil.
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>.> You win this round, Bond. (nm) by
on 2014-10-25 13:32:00 UTC
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I haz wone teh internetz :D by
on 2014-10-25 15:05:00 UTC
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I demand tea. Cookies, too. But mainly tea.
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Re: mission by
on 2014-10-22 20:14:00 UTC
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So, we finally have a Men in Black mission! And I am immemsely amused that neuralyzers got to play a starring role in it, considering they're the one aspect of MiB that the PPC has featured for so long.
This mission is cool just because of how different it is. A Finance mission, holey moley! I love Sambar. He's just soooo focused on his job, he can't see anything else; he reminds me of me! And he was perfect to throw at Agent Huinesoron right after he started trying to be less rude, because anyone would feel like being rude to Sambar.
The mission was a great choice as an acquisition mission, because of all the pointless crossover stuff thrown in. The main focus of the badfic was so surreal and random, I also like that you did something more creative than assassinate replacement!Arwen, because for once, I don't think it would have felt like it fit the crime as well.
You did a great job of keeping Agent K in character throughout, as well. His completely nonplussed confidence fits perfectly with his portrayal in the movie. (Man, can you imagine how clunky the narration would get if the old DAVD agents with the letters at the end of their names had an MiB mission?
"Quick, K!" whispered K. "Go get K, we need to follow K now!
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And one other release: it's Multiverse Theory again! by
on 2014-10-22 16:41:00 UTC
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Time and Motion Study
An EXAMINATION of the current state of MULTIVERSE THEORY and related topics,
by the Division of Applied-and-theoretical Multiversal Physics
Yes, it's that same document I've thrown about a few times before, now with even more bizarre diagrams and opaque text! But, at last, it's finished. The three sections cover three different aspects of time-and-space:
*Space And is Multiverse Theory; it discusses the nature of a single multiverse, then goes on to describe the history of theories regarding the multiple multiverses out there.
*Relative Dimensions is a discussion of how PPC HQ fits into the Prime Multiverse. It also includes a lengthy aside on disguises, canon cloaking, and SEP fields.
*In Time is entirely new, and is basically a description of the formation of alternate timelines of the PPC. These exist in the Prime Multiverse - they have the same origin as the PPC, and the same World One - but are different timelines.
*Multiversal Atlas is the last section, and lists all the multiverses and alternate timelines I could remember being discussed. 'Attested' means they've actually interacted with the Prime PPC; 'rumoured' is other things people have written which haven't (yet) had that interaction. A bit cheeky, I know, but I wanted to make the list both in-universe and complete.
An important note: this is an in-universe document. It's not necessarily right. In fact, in one place, it's dead wrong: it makes no mention of our world. In fact, to be truly complete, you need an extra layer in between: our world creates various 'Real Worlds' containing fictionalised versions of us - such as the people behind the TCDA Board, or those people Narto met, which each create their own 'World One', which forms the heart of a multiverse. It's complicated by the fact that our world stands both as the creator of a bunch of 'real world's, and as the direct creator of the PPC's World One - but anyway, they don't know any of that, so they won't discuss it. ;)
One final note: the Division of Applied-and-theoretical Multiversal Physics has never been mentioned before; I'll be introducing it properly in a story I have vaguely planned. It's basically HQ's physical sciences department (since DoSAT is more engineering); whether it's a division of DoSAT or DMSE&R is an open question. ;)
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Just for kicks - a completely different theory. by
on 2014-10-27 16:15:00 UTC
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This theory is based on something suggested by Neshomeh on the wiki's Multiverse Theory talk page. I've expanded it slightly, given it a diagram and a name, and plan to include it on the revised version of that page. But for your entertainment, I figured I'd also put it up here.
(Note: for the wiki article, a 3-D model of time is used: 'depth-time' is your past-future line, while 'height' and 'width-time' are defined differently depending on the theory)
The Nested Elongated Superstring Hypothesis visualises each canon universe as plane in two temporal dimensions. Its ‘depth-time’ axis corresponds to its past and future, while its ‘width-time’, as in Temporal Axis Theory, is probability. Alternate universes of a canon are placed along the width-time axis, while the various canon universes are viewed as being ‘stacked’ in height-time.
The key difference from Temporal Axis Theory is that the PPC and its alternates are seen as identical planes, but rotated to intersect the ‘canon’ planes. The height-time axis of the canon ‘stack’ corresponds to the depth-time axis of a PPC-type universe; in other words, accessing a different canon is simply a matter of travelling through time. This is a simple task in PPC HQ, though it does explain the generally difficult nature of timekeeping in the PPC.
HQ’s width-time axis - the probability regularly manipulated by portals - corresponds directly to that of the canon universes: probability manipulation allows direct access to fanfics. Alternate PPCs - ‘alternate multiverses’ - are separated along their own height-time axes, which PPC technology is not able to transit through.
The PPC height-time axis corresponds to the canonical depth-time axis. A semi-cyclic temporal model is utilised by NESH, in which canon worlds reach their end and repeat, but with differences. These differences explain the ‘mirror’ nature of the canons of the Mirror Multiverse, as well as the near-impossibility of travelling to alternate multiverses: to reach them would require agents to pass through the end of one universe and the beginning of another. The formation of Bridges is seen as an act of shortening the length of the temporal loop, as was observed in the ‘Suedom’ incident.
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My reaction/questions. by
on 2014-10-25 23:28:00 UTC
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I've been looking forward to seeing this piece in its full for quite some time. Some of the things I've been planning to write with the DIAU definitely play into the concept of the multiverse and alternate timelines. Plus, it's a kind of world-building that's not typically seen -- or at least, that I've not typically seen. The timeline tree was greatly appreciated.
I have some questions about the document and what it talks about in regards to the PPC (since this is supposed to be an in-universe thing). What sort of publicity would a document like this have? I ask because it talks very frankly about things like the Sundering, which I would think might be the sort of thing to cause a hubbub in the PPC if it were widely known about. My assumption would be that, if it isn't kept classified for reasons like previously mentioned, it has the same sort of circulation that any sort of overly technical dissertation would have: very little apart from a small circle of experts.
Related to the previous, what sort of publicity would alternate timelines and multiverses have in the PPC at large? Are they widely known phenomena or just figures of speculation?
Finally, can I make mention of this document and its contents in a future mission (with proper attribution, of course)?
Good stuff! Take a bow, you've earned it.
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Two answers. by
on 2014-10-27 10:37:00 UTC
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Which may both be true. The first is that this document may well be from the future. Actually, in one sense it definitely is - it discusses the Catastrophe Theory timeline, which won't spin off until 2015 according to Phobos. So at the very least, it's from next year. The other reason to think this is that it discusses things that, as you say, shouldn't be known - particulary, as of Triple Prime, Gaspard is actively working to keep the Flowers from finding out the details of the Sundering. This document would then have to post-date some event which rendered that information irrelevant - possibly Oopart's actions next year, possibly something else.
The other answer is that this is, as you say, a technical document. Most agents aren't going to read it; it may even be only an internal document in the DAMP. Doesn't mean any given agent can't find it, of course.
The out-of-universe answer is, of course, that I wanted to write a theory which would account for what we know - and we know more than the PPC does. If you like, you can imagine that this is the 'slightly enhanced' version of the document, with another copy - one which doesn't specifically mention various unknown timelines - being the actual, IU version.
Knowledge of alternate timelines: hrm. I think at least the Mirror Multiverse is fairly well-known - we had 'good Daleks' from there helping out during the 2008 crises, so it'd be hard to miss. And since Lux is quite a sociable creature, I'd imagine her origin is also commonly known. So at least the basics of Multiverse Theory are out there.
Alternate timelines, less so. The only people to have travelled between them are Lou's family, and they don't talk much. ;) So I'm not sure the general body of agents would have any knowledge of it - though they could of course theorise anyway. They actually do have one bit of evidence - a video from the Arthurverse made it into the Multiverse Monitor - but it got subsumed by conspiracy theories, so is presumably ignored. ;)
Phew - that was a lot of words. Sorry! You can definitely mention the document in your stories - I'm going to integrate it into the Wiki at some point, too. Doc Who is now listed. And, just for giggles, I've added something I just realised: we-the-Board have actually written the 'Author' worlds for one, two, and three of the other Multiverses.
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Typo detected. by
on 2014-10-25 09:46:00 UTC
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It is rumoured that agents focussing on 'acting normal' can be masked even from Mary-Sues be the NP field, but this has not yet been proven.
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Thanks! Fixed. (nm) by
on 2014-10-27 10:24:00 UTC
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Infinite recursion of World Ones! Painful. (nm) by
on 2014-10-23 19:08:00 UTC
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Catastrophe Theory by
on 2014-10-22 19:02:00 UTC
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I'm not sure rumored is the right word for it. Since the story is based on the actual Theory, I think "hypothosized by unbalanced individuals" might be more appropriate. Who knows, maybe this crazy story about how it was subverted by means of time travel is just their way of explaining why it didn't happen when they said it would. That it hasn't happened might even constitute proof of its existance, for some of these individuals.
Also, it occurs to me that I should get some things up on the Wiki about CT.
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I have some Cycle Theory ideas but look forwards to yours. (nm) by
on 2014-10-23 19:06:00 UTC
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Hmm. by
on 2014-10-23 09:09:00 UTC
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So does that suggest/imply/outright state that something relevant to Catastrophe Theory occurred in 2010? Let's see... from 'The End is Night' I see that Oopart joined 'nearly ten years' ago, and people were still talking about the assassination of the Board at that time. The earliest event that's been linked to that assassination was the poisoning a week earlier... and you do list the setting as 'Ten Years Hence'. Was the assassination actually in 2010 (thus 'for a given value of ten')? Was the graph a couple of years off? Or was... something else?
I also note that the Sue invasion happened at least 'several years' ago, which is when Amy was lost. Oh, but I see from 'Bound and Gagged' that the PFO clumps the assassination and the occupation together in time, suggesting they happened close together... so is the 'Catastrophe' of the title both of those, in 2010? 2012? Some other year?
Yes, of course I'm planning a chart.
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I can't tell you everything, obviously. by
on 2014-10-23 18:50:00 UTC
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However, I can clear a few things up.
The moratorium on Emergencies slowed the progression of the theorized Catastrophe. It should have happened around 2010, as you note. As it stands, the moratorium granted a brief reprieve, but things got rolling again after a just a few years.
The Assassination happened in, more or less, the Present. Call it 2015 HST (though I personally don't put much stock in HST) and The End Is Nigh happens 'round about 2024-ish. You are right that the poisoning happens about a week before the Assassination. However, the Invasion happens a few months later. There were other events in those intervening months that I won't get in to, here. The PFO lumps them together into "Things that happened around the same time that left me in charge".
Also, Amy was lost 'several years' ago but not during the Invasion. She was lost during the Occupation. Probably 2019 HST, if you want me to be more specific.
As to what happened in 2010...well...I got permission. Coincidence? I think not.
I look forward to seeing what your chart looks like.
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Aaaaand, timeline chart! by
on 2014-10-24 10:21:00 UTC
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As far as I'm aware, that's all the timelines. There are certainly non-PoD time travel incidents missing - the Notary jumped back a few months at one point, as I recall - but the key stuff should all be on there.
Well, technically not. The Inevitable Mobius Double Reach-around technically created over a dozen timelines (not the full 20, since at least some of the Skeets and Amys were from different points on the same timelines), and involved travel between timelines as well as back along them. Given, however, that we know next to nothing of these timelines, except that they all involved a Sundering, and given that the end result of all their meddling was the Triple Prime timeline, from which a single team travelled back to see Gaspard (and thus, apparently, create the Catastrophe Theory timeline, which ironically had an earlier End of the PPC...)... yeah, I went with just listing them as one divergence.
Obviously I don't yet know that the various travellers will prevent their target timelines coming to be - but I'm going to assume it anyway. ;)
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Oh, well, HST. by
on 2014-10-24 09:15:00 UTC
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My theory is that HST is basically a statistical process: whenever the Flowers (presumably there's someone in charge of this, but I can't think who it'd be - Finance, only I don't think the Morning Glory is interested/knows) note that the majority of contacts with World One - new badfics, new agents, new canon releases - are coming from a given month-and-year, they switch the HST date. Since agents are in and out on missions, don't have particularly synchronised timelines, and don't have a day-night cycle to go by, well, if Huinesoron's October '14 lasts 24 days, and Kaitlyn's lasts 35, who's going to notice?
The only time it becomes properly synchronised down at the daily level is during Events and Emergencies. Since everyone can agree on when, say, the Mary-Sue Invasion of '08 occurred in their own personal timelines, the Flowers can slap a date on it and say Look, we have a proper, functioning dating system! What's that? What's today's date? Er... isn't that your console beeping?
Speaking of Emergencies... the way you're writing this seems to suggest that the moratorium is an actual, in-universe Thing. Since I'm not sure what it would be (other than a stern warning to Not Do Anything Dramatic, Please), I'm unclear as to how that would work.
Of course, all of this is irrelevant - what I really needed was the year 2015, which I now have. Thanks!
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Funny story, back when I fist joined... by
on 2014-10-24 22:47:00 UTC
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I thought HST stood for 'Huinesoron Time'. I have no idea why. Go on and grin, hS, I know you want to.
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on 2014-10-27 16:18:00 UTC
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hST: the amount of time that will actually pass between when hS says something will happen 'soon', and when it actually happens. Ranges from one week (the spacing between Driftwood missions) to... eight years and counting (the writing of Agent Kayleigh's Dragon Fever mission). Almost as incomprehensible as HQ's timeline.
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I suppose that makes sense by
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Maybe it is something that someone in Legal does. I don't know.
And I write like the Moratorium is a thing in-universe because it is. It just doesn't really have a name. I don't think anyone (except those directly involved) noticed it in-universe or, if they did, cared enough to name it. Don't worry, there's a story there.
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There are some issues in the multiverse Atlas section. by
on 2014-10-22 17:21:00 UTC
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The Mirror entry is missing a good chunk, and the Magical Girl one has "amine" instead of "anime"
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Fixed and fixed. by
on 2014-10-23 08:58:00 UTC
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And fixed, actually, since Sergio's experience is the only travel to the future that I can think of, barring a couple of people going through the Door to the Future, and Doc and Vania's viewing of future TV. So thanks! Now there's another unanswered question on the list. ;)
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You're welcome. by
on 2014-10-23 19:15:00 UTC
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This is becoming a great article - keep it up!
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I enjoyed this! by
on 2014-10-22 12:14:00 UTC
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SPOILERS
The end part especially, when Agent hS accidentally wiped all of Arwen... replacement... thing. (Seriously, she was sleeping with Elrond? 'Scuse me, gonna go jump in the Fountain of Bleepka.)
The storage room full of other canon materials and whatnot was especially interesting; I'll have to go check out that abandoned TARDIS sometime! :P
Why do I get the feeling Agent Cold is going to become a running joke sometime in the near future?
Anywho, all in all, this was an awesome read, excellent mission, and you should write more of these- I mean, well done!
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PPC Goodies! by
on 2014-10-24 09:50:00 UTC
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Weelll, one goodie and one Whovian thing.
But first things first!
I'm in a computer coding class at the moment, and we were charged with the task of designing a 3-D model to print out and use.
I, naturally, made a PPC Tag that can easily fit on your school bag. It has the Sunflower Official, a spork, and the words 'PPC AGENT' on it.
In other words...
If you happen to be a lucky person with a 3-D printer at school or home or work, the schematic for it is available at- https://tinkercad.com/things/0BrouWBBDrS-ppc-agent-tag
The render is much better, and you can flip it around.
And the Whovian thing! I recorded a Trock song, 'When I'm Gone' with fairly good visuals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpokZcu2mfA
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Thanks! by
on 2014-10-24 16:57:00 UTC
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Your design worked perfectly! I managed to print it onto a 3D printed plastic box. I've programmed it to shout "welcome to medical" when someone goes in front of it and chase them. Also, which program are you using to make models with? Also, are you using an inkline model printer (places molten material in lines) or a laser (shers of bits from a cube with a laser)?
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:O by
on 2014-10-24 10:27:00 UTC
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That... that's pretty awesome. I'm always jealous of people who get to use 3D printers... still waiting for the day when they become actually affordable.
And I like the design; very neat and tidy (though I think that's more a daisy than a sunflower...). And, uh, smaller than it looks - that must only be a couple of inches! Impressive. (And I see from the render that the spork is a folding spork; nice)
So, do we get a picture of it in use? ^_~
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I Second the Waiting Until They're Affordable Issue by
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It really isn't fair that something so cool has to be so expensive.
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Okay, that is awesome. by
on 2014-10-24 12:31:00 UTC
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My mom has access to 3D printers at her school, so I'll have to send her the link to this!
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Possibly! ;-) Stay tuned. (nm) by
on 2014-10-24 12:51:00 UTC
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You should try making... by
on 2014-10-24 16:36:00 UTC
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...a big DMS flash patch. I'd bet it would make for a great cup coaster or something.
The pattern would have to be sunken into the material as opposed to raised but you get the picture. -
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on 2014-10-24 11:16:00 UTC
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(Thanks to my brother- the maniac with his brand new camera- for taking photos. :-D)
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Mission Two, Collabs, and Rocks. Lots of Rocks. by
on 2014-10-25 16:17:00 UTC
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Why We Can't Have Nice Things
Wow, that was quicker than I thought! But yeah, this one's pretty short, and I hope I did well enough with the narrative this time (especially in light of the badfic being sporked).
The mission after this one is going to be a collab with Desdendelle, and I'm probably going to do one with eatpraylove as well. The problem is that my schedule is almost completely booked by research for most of the week, and I'm only available for limited time periods (I'll send 'em by PM to my partners later). I wonder if we can work something out based on this constraint?
Lastly, I've found a new type of mini! doctorlit really liked the choice of mini-Boulders for the Indiana Jones continuum, which was a spur-of-the-moment thing on my part. The last page of this mission lists all of the minis I found while writing it. I'll see if I can put a new mini page on the Wiki, but until then, if anyone wants to adopt a pet rock to deck some Suvian faces in, please let me know! :) -
I did read this! by
on 2014-10-30 14:04:00 UTC
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And I... can't remember if I had anything to say about it. Ehm... trollfics can be fun to spork, but don't do too many of them - it's more fun, I think, to see the stories which are pointed in vaguely the right direction (and missing terribly) than to just read an essentially random series of events while the agents say 'This makes no sense! This really makes no sense!' etc.
And, ehm... oh yes: mini-Boulders. Cute. Though I'm seriously shocked that you didn't go down the Geodude route.
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Good job! by
on 2014-10-27 13:25:00 UTC
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I don't really have anything to add in terms of concrit. I'll be looking forward to you next mission.
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Mini-Boulders? by
on 2014-10-27 00:16:00 UTC
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I just had to laugh- the rolling boulder is so iconic, it's very fitting!
I absolutely loved this mission, though I do have to say Rashida seems a little too fond of greatly injuring her partner... even if her desire to do so is totally justified.
And, uh, if you ever wanted to do a mission with me, I'd be totally up for it! *hint, hint* -
More nitpicking. by
on 2014-10-26 20:15:00 UTC
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Falchion muttered to himself, still held in the Troll’s huge arm as he wondered whether he had any tissues to pick the up the new mini with.
There is one "the" too much.
but neither of the World One figures the people you ate correspond to have any Speshul abilities to begin with.
This looks weird to me, although I cannot exactly say what’s wrong with it. I suspect that the sentence was rephrased, but words which are no longer necessary were not removed.
Great mission again. I liked how you used Sarah’s impatience to make Falchion ignore Rashida’s advice and go into the badfic unprepared.
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Thanks! I was going bonkers waiting for your next mission by
on 2014-10-26 08:04:00 UTC
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A great second mission, though a bit short. Oh, and catchy title.
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Interesting mission. by
on 2014-10-26 02:08:00 UTC
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You've admirably handled that trollfic. Are you planning on having all three of your characters working together on a mission sometime in the future?
A few nitpicks, though:
so if you think I’ll let you Weavile your way out of this mess
Did you consider having Falchion say "Sneasel your way out" instead? IMO, that would make the pun easier to grasp.
doing unspeakable things in full view him
I believe you want to say "in full view of him"?
flapping his arms in a crude butterfly-stroke like a sea eagle with its wings.
This clause could use a bit more clarification. Personally, I think that the sentence should have ended at "butterfly-stroke," since the image was clear enough at that point; IMO, the rest muddied up the picture.
Alternatively, consider adding a verb: "like a sea eagle does with its wings". As presently written, I had trouble piecing the sentence together.
“i am goin to END YO!!!” The Troll roared in fury before charging at Sarah.
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RE: Mission Two by
on 2014-10-26 00:26:00 UTC
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Nice work! You don't have to worry about finding time to collaborate with me just yet, by the way; I haven't quite finished my prompts yet (yes, I prewrote my permission prompts, don't judge me), and am super busy with college stuff to boot.
Anyway, concrit time! Your narration and dialogue are a little long-winded in places, but that might be because I had no idea how to change some parts and so left them alone. Take this from the first paragraph of Act Two, for example:
"She had just finished her appointment with the Kudzu some ten minutes ago, during which she’d also had a run-in with Violet. The canon’s leg had been regenerated completely, and any memories of her disastrous vacation to Isla Sorna were long gone by now. Rashida hadn’t stuck around for long, but Violet had at least asked her how Sarah was doing. She was told that her friend was fine, but that she’d be staying with her until further notice, though correspondence with the canon was not out of the question. While Violet was led off to be returned to her family, the Sphinx agent decided to make use of her time by picking up her prescription sedative from Medical, where she struck up a talk with Dr. Appleday about the previous mission."
Yeah. Those are some very involved sentences right there. I found a website some time ago that has advice on being laconic, among other writing tips you probably knew already.
Another thing I noticed is your penchant for referring to Falchion as "the (disguised) Skarmory Agent" and Rashida as "the Sphinx Agent". Leaving off the "Agent" is fine if you need to distinguish them from other characters or something; in paragraphs where they're the only two present, it comes across as weird and overly formal.
Speaking of Falchion, does he really need to refer to Rashida as "Mean Old Rosie" so often? It comes across as juvenile even for him. Just "Rosie" or "Rose" (and "Rashida" in really serious parts) would do just as well.
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Re: Mission Two, Collabs, and Rocks. Lots of Rocks. by
on 2014-10-26 00:24:00 UTC
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Darn it, now I've got to revise my mission because I had mini-Snakes.
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Anyone watch the finale of Cardfight!! Vanguard? by
on 2014-10-26 03:52:00 UTC
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Tonight, 10/25, the finale of Cardfight!! Vanguard was available for Crunchyroll.com's free users (It was available for Premium users since last week.) And I have to tell you, the feels! All the feels!
All those appearances from those great Cardfighters from all four seasons...
Kai's change from lone-wolf to someone who's a bit more open...
And that epic closer that brought back the original Vanguard theme!!!
*squees like a little girl for 11.259 seconds*
*ahem*
But with the series over, I wonder if there is a fanfic explosion in the works. Assuming that the fandom is big enough, I myself am predicting ship wars aplenty on the horizon. Of course, there's the obvious Aichi/Misaki vs. Aichi/Kourin ship war, but given the multiple friendships in the show, this continuum is easily amenable to slash ships as well(e.g., Kai/Aichi, Kai/Ren, Kai/Miwa).
So, if anyone here also watches Vanguard, what do you think? Has anyone read any Vanguard goodfic? Anyone looking forward to/dreading an imminent fanfic explosion? Any predictions?
Stand up, Vanguard!
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Unable to access records of 2008 mary sue invasion by
on 2014-10-27 15:24:00 UTC
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I am unable to access the records of the 2008 mary sue invasion, specifically http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_152g85dnkcw , http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_143cdzsv3hs , http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_146g4j7jhhn , http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_149sjgcdgf , http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_145dc7fhwdm , http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_148fjpg79gp , http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfg2s5q3_144c2kzv8cv . It appears that the author has not set it to be view-able by everyone who uses the link, and has instead set it on GDocs to be view-able by himself or those invited to via GDocs. I would like this to be cleared up, as these are vital parts of PPC history.
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I believe... by
on 2014-10-28 14:36:00 UTC
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... that those files, which consist of a copy of the RP from the Board (organised by... theme, maybe?), are owned by JulyFlame. They've been unavailable for some time; I believe Neshomeh knows a bit more than I do.
As far as actual 'vital parts' go: in the aftermath of the Macrovirus Epidemic, the League of Mary-Sue Factories sent an army into HQ. The agents fought them off, culminating in a Last Stand in the Tomb of the Unknown PPC Agent. There's not a lot more to tell, except with regards to who exactly was there.
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They used to be visible. by
on 2014-10-31 00:41:00 UTC
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Howevre, Google Docs changed some settings a few years back that made a majority of the things I had published inaccessible and I've never actually got around to fixing it.
It's one of the things Nesh and I are working on as time permits, seeing how I've not very much time to spare these days whatsoever.
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Yeah, that happens. by
on 2014-10-31 10:42:00 UTC
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But... do you not have things filed? Because if so, it's a job of about ten seconds to go 'Select all in PPC folder > Share > Anyone can [view]'.
I'm guessing you mean you're working on editing various things, which is a fine and noble goal of which I thoroughly approve.
... er, there was going to be more to that sentence. Oh yeah: but, surely you could re-share the unedited stuff in the meantime? Particularly the RP logs. Alternately, if you'd prefer to send/open them just to me, I can rehost them; I've got enough stuff floating around that one more won't make any difference.
I'm not trying to pressure you, and ultimately it is up to you. Mostly I'm just annoyed that the RP took place a couple of months before the Board archive starts...
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Same here, please fix (nm) by
on 2014-10-28 13:29:00 UTC
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Ditto. by
on 2014-10-28 02:15:00 UTC
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I'm also getting a "you need permission" message when I open those docs.
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It's my birthday! by
on 2014-10-27 18:18:00 UTC
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So... I'm turning 23 today. And I have no idea about what else should I say about it.
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Re: It's my birthday! by
on 2014-10-28 22:03:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! YAY!
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Happy birthday!!!!one1111 by
on 2014-10-28 10:33:00 UTC
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Let's see.... I suppose I should give your agents a care package!
I suppose Agent!Sergio can have a Beretta 96FS
I'll give Corolla a year's supply of sue Souffle'
and Nikki gets a stock of 9-bangs!
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Happy belated birthday! (nm) by
on 2014-10-28 07:32:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! by
on 2014-10-28 01:35:00 UTC
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Here's wishing you another year of fun and craziness!
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Mazel-tov! by
on 2014-10-27 22:20:00 UTC
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Happy birthday and stuff!
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*tosses cakefetti* by
on 2014-10-27 22:06:00 UTC
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Have an Iximaz-special birthday song!
HAPPY HAPPY BRITHDAY TO YOU
MAY ALL YOUR WISHES COME TRUE
HOPE NOBODY MAKES YOU BLUE
AND YOUR CAKE DOESN'T EXPLODE IN GOO!
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Happy birthday! (gives candy) (nm) by
on 2014-10-27 21:02:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! by
on 2014-10-27 20:35:00 UTC
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*tosses you a Generic Gift*
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Happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2014-10-27 18:56:00 UTC
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Farewell for James Shields by
on 2014-10-28 03:14:00 UTC
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Unfortunately, due to personal matters, James Shields won't be able to post on the board and will have to distance himself from the PPC (and the internet in general) for about a year (At least, that's what he told me).
The reason I'm posting this is because he doesn't have time to.
Bye, Shields. *Bows head solemnly* -
*Farewell salute* by
on 2014-10-28 17:23:00 UTC
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He will be missed. Wherever he is.
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*waves goodbye* (nm) by
on 2014-10-28 13:29:00 UTC
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How I could be of use to the PPC by
on 2014-10-28 11:55:00 UTC
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Well, everyone knows how I started out as a creative writer (Stu-then-manufactured-bit agents, inconsistent with the established universe, random capitalization,etc. etc. etc.), and I haven't been able to make my writing coherent with the PPC shared multiverse until now, but enough about that.
This particular post is about how I could be an asset to the PPC, namely in the sense that....I don't know how to put this without putting it too bluntly, so let's go with this:
I am the kind of person that laughed at the sight of "For your eyes only"'s infamous baby-talk rape sentence.
I am the kind of person that read through the mission of "C*l*br**N" with a straight face (I would probably read the fic itself if the link weren't broken. And yes, most likely with a straight face too.)
I am the kind of person that stopped reading "Subjugation" not because it was disgusting, bizarre, or hideously, hideously depraved. I stopped reading it because it was boring.
This isn't merely squick tolerance, this is possibly squick...I don't know, squick immunity? (not likely to be true immunity, because everyone has their limits, but close)
I'm not necessarily the type to boast, but I bet I could look at a fic involving the rape and subsequent dismemberment of a baby written in urple prose with a straight face, maybe even get a laugh out of it if it was badly done enough (or had been done in a manner that made it clear that the author fetishes about that).
After writing parts of my persona fic, I've noticed my writing has improved greatly, but I still have problems with my style, which doesn't fit the PPC universe as much as I would like. That, and I'm just a rookie in the first place, even after all the time I've had to improve.
So, anyone willing to help me? Because from the moment I discovered you guys, I've always wanted to write PPC stories because I thought you were the coolest community on the net. Everything about the PPC just screamed "Coolest concept Ever!!!!" to me, and I dreamed of writing for you from the minute I posted my first message.
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I'm... rather unclear why you think that's an asset. by
on 2014-10-30 11:59:00 UTC
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I mean, okay, good for you I guess that you can read horrifying things without being horrified, but... basically, you're saying you can write missions into stories people don't want to read. Only... people don't want to read those stories. So how would it help for you to write a mission into them? Either the mission quotes the story, in which case people don't want to read them, or the mission doesn't quote the story, in which case, what's the point in going into a horrifying story?
So yeah - not sure how 'I can survive toxic gas, so follow me into the chlorine tank!' is an asset, really.
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Some badfic deserves to be sporked for the catharsis by
on 2014-10-30 13:36:00 UTC
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Besides, I could cut out as much of the horrifying stuff as necessary (Like you did with the mission of Celebrian, which i'm also sure NO-ONE wants to read the original story).
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Whose catharsis? by
on 2014-10-30 14:01:00 UTC
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If it's your own, then this obviously loops back to 'so what?'. If other people's... well, it feels like you're in a bit of a feedback loop here. You bring along a badfic > people find it horrifying > you spork it to catharsisise it. End result is exactly the same as if you'd never brought it up, neh?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying you can't write missions (once you have Permission, blah blah, look at my fancy PG hat which I'm never allowed to forget I'm wearing, blah blah) into any story you like. But... eh. Presenting it as doing the PPC community a favour seems very strange.
And: Clbrn. What people seem to miss every time they talk about this mission is that it's Dafydd's bit set-piece finale. I didn't just up and decide 'hey, let's do a Legendary Badfic!'; I spent fifteen stories crafting a character people loved (srsly, they did), then threw the worst we had at him. It was not something I could have done at the start of his run. People would have just... not read it, because it's Clbrn.
That mission was more about Dafydd than it was about the badfic. Trying to do it with a fresh agent would, I think, have been a doomed enterprise.
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Well.. by
on 2014-10-30 14:10:00 UTC
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..A lot of this actually came from me fantasizing about helping Neshomeh and TS spork subjugation. also, really, if there's a badfic than no-one else has the stomach to spork, then I'll probably do it, for my own catharsis.
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Mitts off, "Subjugation" is mine. {= P by
on 2014-10-30 16:11:00 UTC
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FYI, the reason we haven't sporked it yet isn't because the horror is too much for us two poor lily-livered wilting violets (although, let's be clear, it is horrifying). There are actually two reasons:
1. I had to build up my characters first. See hS's comments above. I mean, at this point people like Nume and Ilraen, I could do it now if I wanted to, BUT:
2. Arguably the more important reason is that making something as long, yucky, and mechanically decent as "Subjugation" into an entertaining mission is hard. In my book, if a mission isn't going to be entertaining to other people, there's no point in writing it, so I've been taking this time to figure out how the heck to do it. I have a pretty decent notion, I think, but the devil's in the details.
We'll get to it when we're good and ready—not because it "needs to be done," by the way, but simply because our characters have a personal history with that monster, and we like the idea of making them go back and face it. If not for that, we could happily declare it unmissionable and let it go without losing any sleep over it.
Never forget that badfic is just words on a screen. What the PPC does is objectively silly and unimportant. We do it because it's fun, not because we're on some kind of crusade. In fact, crusader-types tend not to get Permission, because (a) their writing tends not to be funny, and (b) they freak us out.
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To quote Techno-Dann... by
on 2014-10-30 22:04:00 UTC
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“The point of the PPC isn't to be mythic heroes ridding the world of badfic, or even knight-in-shining-armor types cleaning one 'verse at a time - the point is that the agents are borderline-nutcases doing an impossibly large job one teaspoon-full at a time, with half-broken equipment that never was enough for the job, and working in the most messed up corporate environment that has ever existed. And humor, ostensibly.”
Yes, I totally C/P'd that from the Wiki, what's it to you?
Oh, and Nesh, take all the time you want- though I won't lie, I've read all of Nume and Ilraen's missions so many times I could quote from them. I bet quite a lot of people would be excited to see more from them.
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Bravo. by
on 2014-10-30 16:44:00 UTC
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This is... basically the post I keep trying to write whenever this general subject comes up. All right, not the parts specific to your agents - but the rest of it. So bravo.
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Okay so basically by
on 2014-10-31 00:43:00 UTC
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You're basically saying that I can't get permission because I hate the actual badfic and try to spork it for self-gratification (Or because it's cool, or whatever), right?
Or maybe it's because my writing style just plain doesn't fit the PPC (The original purpose of this thread was me asking for help on how to make my writing style fit this cool concept).
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Uh, no? by
on 2014-10-31 10:50:00 UTC
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And I wasn't trying to 'win'; actually, 'winning' would constitute you becoming the greatest PPC writer since Jay and Acacia, and stunning us all with an epic series of adventures. You deciding not to write is... the opposite of winning.
Okay, how to make your writing style fit: think of a TV show, like The X-Files, or Doctor Who, or Star Trek, or Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., or what have you. There are three types of episode:
-Monster of the Week. The team deals with a specific event or problem, and then forget all about it.
-Mythology/arc plot. The team deal with something related to the overall plot.
-Series finale. Big massive drama, lots of explosions, character death, trauma, and whatnot.
You seem to be thinking about mostly writing series finales. But even a TV show doesn't make every episode a riot of Stuff(TM); if they did, you'd quickly get overwhelmed. Same in the PPC: most missions are, and should be, Monsters (Badfics) of the Week. Fairly normal, moderately easy reading. If every mission starts with 'I want to tear out my eyes, this is EVEN WORSE than the last one!', then... overload.
So start with Monsters of the Week. Send your agents into missions that don't make them try to commit suicide or break the rules or torture anyone or nearly get killed or - basically all the things that Laburnum was so fond of. ;) If you do that, and do it well, then when you come to a Series Finale, you'll make us cry out, too - in sympathy for the agents we've come to know.
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That's not what he's saying. by
on 2014-10-31 00:58:00 UTC
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In fact, it's only been stated that crusader types tend to not get permission.
It's okay to dislike the badfic- we're all here because we like canon. But a good lot of us are also here because we like goodfic, too, and we enjoy humor and aren't quite as enamored of making it a contest of 'who can go after the worst stuff possible'.
The PPC is based on humor, and a love of canon- but a love of fic, too.
When you're implying that you only go after badfic for the sake of finding the worst stuff possible, it suggests that you're not much interested in the humor we like around here and that you also don't have much interest in canon or fanfic either.
It's not a matter of your writing style fitting, but maybe how you approach things yourself.
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on 2014-10-31 01:37:00 UTC
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I like canon and goodfic too (alas, I don't have a lot of time to read goodfic, though).
Got the approach thing, but I really can't seem to help but look for the worst stuff possible. I can make fun of it, but that's kind of difficult (which is why I was asking for help in the first place.) -
A little advice by
on 2014-10-28 16:03:00 UTC
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If you really want to get in to the style and feel of the PPC, then please stop casually mentioning sexual violence all the time. Seriously, being cavalier about that sort of thing comes off really, REALLY creepy.
And if you absolutely must mention it, then label your post NSFW. I know you've been told that before.
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Oh sorry by
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Ummm.... If I labeled my post NSFW, how would people react.
Also, I'm only causally mentioning that stuff to use as an example. I'm really not squicked out by sexual violence (but, as you said, this comes with a price).
Besides (not trying to use this as an excuse), you guys deal with sexual violence on a regular basis. I still can't shake that you're disgusted by that because of the above. -
Let me try to be clear. (potential trigger warning) by
on 2014-10-29 02:06:00 UTC
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A few PPCers have written missions involving heavily NSFW material, but that doesn't mean the entire community can handle it. In the initial post, you brought up all of three missions, one of which could not be completed by the authors because of how disgusting it was. There are literally hundreds of PPC missions now, nearly all of which are roughly PG-13ish; and only a handful of the missions of higher rating handle the really offensively squicky material you're talking about. To put it bluntly, missions like that are not what the PPC is about.
Now, the community doesn't have any rules against that sort of mission, and it's fine to write and publish them; that's not what's being discussed here. The problem is that this community may contain:
a) underage people, who should not be exposed to the kind of visuals you brought up in your initial post, and
b) people who, for whatever personal reason, may be emotionally hurt and made uncomfortable by that kind of material. This is called "triggering."
So, how do we protect our fellow internet users from accidentally seeing such material when they don't want to? The difficulty lies in the fact that you and I don't know off-hand who can safely read potentially sensitive and inappropriate material just by looking at their screenames. So we put warnings on such material when we post it to a public viewing area, such as this Board (or any similar message board; this is general internet courtesy, not a PPC-specific rule), so that each person can decide for themselves whether they are comfortable in clicking or not. For example, I added "potential trigger warning" in parentheses to the top of this post, as I am discussing triggering situations. I'm actually being careful not to get too explicit with anything here, but I added the warning just in case, because I don't know who will be reading this, and I am afraid of hurting anyone, or exposing underage PPCers to info they might not yet be mature enough to understand. You'll also note that the missions you referred to, and the wiki pages about their targets, are labeled "NSFW" themselves, for the same reasons.
So, to summarize: Yes, some (many!) PPCers are disgusted by sexual violence, and really only a small fraction of us have dealt with it directly in missions. (Even for those of us who have, this hardly constitutes a "regular basis.") Bringing up this kind of topic can still be hurtful for some people, even when it's only used as examples in discussion. And as for "how would people react?" Well, some people would react by not reading it, and that's okay, because they wouldn't have been comfortable reading it, and they deserve the respect of being given the tools to avoid things that could potentially hurt them. -
I'll mention threads like this as NSFW in the future (sorry) by
on 2014-10-29 02:13:00 UTC
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Also, some of those fics need to be sporked, and I seem to be the only one with the stomach to deal with that stuff on a regular basis.
Again, If I write a thread like this in the future, I'll put the proper label on it. -
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Another reason for labelling stuff NSFW: NSFW stands for Not Safe for Work and it usually means that if you're caught reading stuff like that at work (or school or whatever) you'll get reprimanded (harshly, sometimes).
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I know what NSFW means. (nm) by
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I don't know about "need to be sporked." by
on 2014-10-29 02:41:00 UTC
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If you, or anyone else, can find a funny and entertaining way to write a mission for a squicky bleepfic, that's great. If not, that's fine. There are plenty of badfics out there, and not all of them would work well as a mission. We're not trying to "catch 'em all," as it were.
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I only want to write missions because the concept is cool by
on 2014-10-30 01:30:00 UTC
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I actually have difficulty finding humor in PPC missions except in circumstances that involve the really squicky parts of worsefic or legendary badfic (typically the agent's reactions to that stuff)
(also, Sometimes the squick is also offensive, in which case it's not funny. ex. girl talks about getting raped in a manner that was meant to fulfill the author's fetishes=not funny because it's offensive. 2 foot-tall cat-person hybrid "Pet" describing rape in baby-talk is funny because it's bizarre, stupid, and kind of funny by default in a dark way. bonus points for clear intent to arouse the author and/or agents react horrified.) -
Excuse me? by
on 2014-10-31 02:12:00 UTC
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You say want to write missions here, and then you turn around and say "Oh, PPC missions aren't funny to me except when the agents are grossed out over a bleepfic?" I can see a few problems with that mindset, guy.
First of all, I spy a paradox. How can you admire the concept of a PPC mission but also have a problem with what makes it a PPC mission?
Second, the Guide to the PPC repeatedly emphasizes that we as a community are about having fun and supporting all manner of goodfic by killing off all manner of badfic. All manner of it, not just the grossest stuff out there. You want to spork the worst of the worst, great, more power to you; just remember thatyou're standing on a planet that's evolving and revolving at 900 miles an hournot everyone here wants to read your latest NSFW/NSFB mission.
Third, and most importantly, SQUICK IS NEVER EVER FUNNY. Especially not when it's handled like your second example. I get the whole "find something to laugh at to distract yourself from the horror" thing, but...come on, dude, the character still had to go through that horrible event. Show a little sympathy! -
I don't just target squickfic (NSFW) by
on 2014-10-31 02:33:00 UTC
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You know, I dislike Mary Sues even more than I hate offensive portrayals of sexual violence.
And what people find funny kind of works off a similar principle to YKNMK. besides, the Cat person just plain isn't believeable in the first place, how could you be sympathetic to that getting raped? Especially concerning that it later falls in love with it's rapist (!) and then gets pregnant through it's anal uterus (WTF!!!!11one).
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Herein lies the problem. by
on 2014-10-31 00:38:00 UTC
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"I actually have difficulty finding humor in PPC missions except in circumstances that involve the really squicky parts of worsefic or legendary badfic (typically the agent's reactions to that stuff)"
This, if anything, tells me personally that maybe you shouldn't write PPC missions.
As has been said before, the vast majority of PPC missions do not rely on horrific badfic, or use squick as a point of horror.
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That just means I won't find it humorous.... by
on 2014-10-31 00:49:00 UTC
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...but other people might. for example: the agent working conditions. You find them to be a constant source of comedy, but I find those conditions to be abusive, and therefore not funny.
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Except for the fact.... by
on 2014-10-31 01:02:00 UTC
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That you're citing that you find unfunny are the very things that make the PPC what it is, and the things you do like are things that we generally try to keep at a minimum.
Laburnum's missions are not wholly representative of the PPC and are largely on the fringe- to the point that way back when people asked her to ease up on that sort of thing.
When you say you find those things unfunny, it means that a large part of the PPC is lost on you; it's an aspect of its frequent absurdity.
It is what it is.
And speaking as someone who's spent quite a bit of thing in that style of working conditions, while you might not find it funny, I found it funny before I went into the line of work I am in now, and now that I'm doing what I do, I find it downright hilarious. (Even if the sleep deprivation, downright questionable food, iffy mattresses and occasional surprise Deadpool makes me question my sanity.)
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Heh by
on 2014-10-31 06:04:00 UTC
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Now that I think about it, the PPC sounds an awful lot like Israeli Rifleman 02 Basic Training.
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"...and occasional surprise Deadpool... by
on 2014-10-31 01:52:00 UTC
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There really isn't much of one. by
on 2014-10-31 01:55:00 UTC
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Just walking, minding my business, and bam, suddenly see Deadpool running by.
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Still pretty cool, though. by
on 2014-10-31 02:39:00 UTC
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I wish I could see Deadpool running around on my uni's campus. That would liven things up a bit!
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Give or take. by
on 2014-10-31 02:41:00 UTC
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Nooot a university campus, though.
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I guess... by
on 2014-10-31 01:43:00 UTC
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..I might have to read some missions by other boarders to get a better picture of the PPC. Also, how did you know that most of the missions I was reading are Laburnum's?
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And suddenly a whole lot clicks into place. by
on 2014-10-31 10:11:00 UTC
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Let me tell you a story. Do you mind? I hope not, because it's one of the good ones - it's true.
A few years back - this would have been around 2008 - the PPC hadn't much heard of TVTropes. We apparently had a page, but without much on it. Then, for reasons I'm still not clear on, Tawaki and Laburnum decided to expand it.
And I mean massively expand it. Suddenly, it became this huge list of tropes and examples - but all those examples were from Tawaki's and Laburnum's stories. Thing is, Tawaki wrote massive overarching plots, and Laburnum wrote NC-17-rated missions with lots of violence (sexual or otherwise), and neither of them are in any way representative of how the vast majority of PPC missions go down.
But that was what was up there, and straightaway a trend started that's continued to this day: people arriving on the Board from TVT (that's good!) with the ineradicable impression that we're either all about squick (that's bad), or all about big dramatic paradigm-shifting events (that's bad too).
In 2010 and 2011, efforts were made to change things by going through and deleting trope examples that weren't representative of the PPC as a whole, but they fell through - as I understand it, because TVTropes didn't approve of the PPC 'censoring' its own pages. Other examples have (I assume?) been added, but the baseline is still the Tawaki-Laburnum Giant Drama With Sexual Violence stuff.
So no: Laburnum is way, way unrepresentative of the PPC. Read something else as well. Can I recommend Driftwood? [/obligatory plug]
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The editing spree actually mostly worked, FWIW. (nm) by
on 2014-11-03 17:17:00 UTC
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Huh. Really? by
on 2014-11-03 21:40:00 UTC
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I distinctly remembering TVT throwing a hissy fit and reverting everything/kicking everyone off. Did that only happen once, or did I misunderstand (not being involved at all), or... what?
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Oh, they fought us all right, but most of it stuck. by
on 2014-11-03 21:44:00 UTC
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There was a lot of drama in TVT during the editing spree, and in fact we had a big row on their forums about it, but ironically Fast Eddie was perfectly okay with it despite my adaptation of the situation to Plort, it was his mods - I think Fighteer and Madrugada - who gave us trouble. Two of us got banned, me and Caddy, and there were some issues with our things being reverted but for the most part it settled down and we got our way. The big edit spree drama kinda died down and the work finished quietly, though admittedly I now avoid TV Tropes so maybe stuff's got worse.
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I've read some of Herr Wozzeck's stuff by
on 2014-10-31 10:26:00 UTC
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And I couldn't find much humor in that either.
nor could I in the sporking of forbiden fruit
or what I've read of SkarmorySilver's first mission.
Actually, I have both driftwood and you favorited in FF.net., so I should get around to reading it. -
Well... by
on 2014-10-31 12:21:00 UTC
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Might I recommend Neshomeh's spinoffs? I find them highly amusing, even though I do not know all the canons involved. In fact, Nume and Ilraen's spinoff is my favourite one.
You can also try Agent!Huinesoron's missions which aren't the dramatic stuff you get in Dafydd's.
Anyway, most of the spinoffs you've mentioned are heavy on the drama or squick; fobiden fruit is Legendary Badfic and SkarmorySilver's first mission is dramatic-ish. -
Give it a shot. by
on 2014-10-31 01:47:00 UTC
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It's because I am all knowing.
To be honest, it's because I read pretty much everything back when I started and I kept up with what people published for a long while; I have a good memory, and what you were leaning towards described Laburnum's.
Hers are pretty far out there by PPC standards, and we've largely tried to discourage people from following in that pattern because it's not really what the PPC is about in terms of thematics. -
Oh yeah, I know those! by
on 2014-10-31 17:45:00 UTC
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I actually stumbled upon Laburnum's missions a few years before I joined the PPC and I remember going 'WTF?' to quite a bit of it. (Though it may be because I've only read the first Redwall book and didn't know even more of what they were talking about.) So I just wrote the PPC off as 'just another bunch of crazy Sue hunters'.
God, I wish I found TOS first.
Granted, the missions are great in their own right (and yes, I've gone back and read them since joining), but they really don't represent the PPC as a whole. If only I knew that way back when... -
Everything in this particular line of the thread is NSFW (nm) by
on 2014-10-29 02:08:00 UTC
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Wow, seconding the creepy. by
on 2014-10-29 01:39:00 UTC
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Sexual violence is something that SHOULD disturb you. Going around declaring that reading about it doesn't bother you is in itself disturbing, because it seems like you don't get why it's a bad thing, especially in the hands of an incompetent writer who can't do justice to the gravity of the subject. If you don't get that, you don't get the PPC.
The point of tagging disturbing things NSFW, by the way, is to stop people from opening posts that contain subject material that might get them in trouble if someone happened to be reading over their shoulder at the wrong time. It's common Internet courtesy.
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Actually, sexual violence is still bad... by
on 2014-10-29 02:00:00 UTC
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...because badly done sexual violence is offensive and trivialization. I don't hate it because it disturbs me (it doesn't) but because it disturbs and offends actual victims of sexual violence, which, IMO, is one of the worst things one can do.
the point is: it's still a bad thing to me just like it is to most people. It may be for different reasons, but we can all agree on the fact if said incompetent writer doesn't understand the gravity of the subject, they deserve to have their fic sporked. (and told about it, but obviously, I would not condone or preform such an act) -
Re: How I could be of use to the PPC by
on 2014-10-28 13:30:00 UTC
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They're plenty of ways. You could MST something (squick tolerance is helpful there) , you could write a history of the PPC that goes into great detail about the events (we really need that), you could Beta for people. Oh, and I recommend you go into the GAFF boards and MST stuff there due to your high squick tolerance.
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I meant how could you help me with writing for the PPC? by
on 2014-10-28 14:36:00 UTC
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I really meant how could you help me with writing a PPC story (Namely, the style, and the humor involved).
also, I have new agent ideas, but I'm not sure if I can post them, because they come from a very obscure RPG continuum that is pretty much only known in the west by very hardcore RPG fanatics due to the extreme difficulty of it's games, so basically, I appear to be the only one who knows anything about said continua, and I'm not confident enough to check my own work.
I don't know if I can get permission this time, because all my previous attempts have failed (due to the aforementioned manufactured agents). Even though I fulfill all the prerequisites in theory, I can't emulate the style and atmosphere of the other PPC missions, to say the least of my issues with fitting into the multiverse. -
Re: I meant how could you help me with writing for the PPC? by
on 2014-10-28 14:48:00 UTC
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Being obscure is fine... skarmorysilver's agent rashida's continuum is not known by any boarders other than her author. I myself plan to get permission with agents from the SotINF continuum, which only one other boarder knows. I can help with style, but not spelling/grammar as I am very weak in that. Make sure your continuum is not so little-known you can't find badfic for it, however, if you plan for them to do missions in it.
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There is a section on FF.net for it, but.... by
on 2014-10-29 01:49:00 UTC
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The (Shin) Megami Tensei section of the pit of voles is nowhere near as large as the one for it's sub-series, Persona.
Yes, you heard that right. Herr Wozzeck and Nord were the only ones on the board to possess an even basic knowledge of persona, let alone it's more obscure mother series.
As mentioned, I seem to be the only one who knows anything about SMT here, mainly because I own several of the games (and yes, for anyone who has played Etrian Odyssey, SMT is made by the same company, so it's just as hard.)
Enough about that. The next part is mostly for my new agent idea (Which only I can grade)
Agent Errol originated from a written lets-play turned possible trollfic that one day mysteriously vanished from the internet, along with it's author (Who is now thought to have been using an alias). He is basically once-troll-possessed version of Flynn from Shin Megami Tensei IV. He ended up in HQ after a plothole originated at the end of his home fic (which was never completed), and was freed of the troll's possession. Unlike other agents, Errol is not allowed to use a weapon (His demons fulfill that role) due to the aforementioned fact that he can summon demons and he was once possessed by a troll (The Flowers do not want him to revert back into a sue).
Personality-wise, Errol is very passive-aggressive (he is normally very calm, but get him angry and the gloves come off). He is still developing as a character due to the fact that his canon self was a blank slate and the troll provided most of the (Bad) characterization in his home fic. he considers himself to not adhere to the twin-binary morality system of his home continua, but when pushed, will say he is Dark-Neutral (no matter what, he has dark definitely as his primary alignment)
Errol usually has 3 primary demons stored in his gauntlet (the gauntlet has a built in universal translator, but the demons also wear them in the event of separation from their summoner).
Closet is a Mot and Errol's primary demon. This reaper conducts himself like a gentleman, speaking formally most of the time. He gets his name from the fact that he (Like pretty much every Mot), hides in his coffin most of the time. Closet's skills include an extremely powerful fire blast, instant death runes (no worries, these can fail, and do most of the time) that come in single and multi-target variations, and magic barriers that can deflect either physical or energy attacks (I plan on using the latter on Rose Potter, eventually)
Dumat is a Seth, and is the second-most powerful demon that Errol has. The massive draconic vile is usually used to close the distance between Closet's ranged magic and Ripely's physical attacks, as he can fight at any distance effectively. he is aloof and somewhat cold, only caring about the mission at hand. Dumat's skills include gun blasts in both single-shot and volley forms (these manifest from his mouth, even he doesn't know why this works), a darkness-charged teleporting slash with his claws and talons that are not very powerful but have a low chance of instantly killing an enemy, a stronger non-elemental claw attack, a single-target instant death rune, and the ability to teleport his allies (but not himself) to safety.
Ripely is a Vetala, and the weakest of Errol's demon compliment. named because his appearance reminds people of a chestburster victim, Ripely is constantly cracking jokes about whatever bizarre situation being a member of the PPC manages to get one into. Ripely's skills include various slashes with his claws and chest-mounted teeth, which include poisonous, dark insta-kill, rusted metal, and single and multi-target variations, the ability to breathe either a weakening fog or a blast of acid that weakens an opponents defenses, and a blast of fire.
I might not ask for permission right now, but I personally think I have actually decent agents this time (the reason I'm not asking for permission now is I'm tied up in some other writings). -
Well, not exactly. by
on 2014-10-31 10:35:00 UTC
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You say only I can grade your agent idea: not so! You may be the only person who can determine how close to their canon they are, but anyone can judge how good they are as a character. Remember, people who read your missions aren't going to look up the canon first, so they'll be going purely on the character as written.
And... well. Let's take a look:
Errol. The idea of him not being allowed to use a weapon is interesting, but I don't think it works. We have lots of ex-Suvian agents, so even if you offered a justification for 'use sword, become Stu' (which don't make much sense), you'd have to explain why no-one else has the same problem. And even if that happens - agents are supposed to use weapons that fit into the canon they're working in. Using pet demons is fine if you're in, say, His Dark Materials, but it wouldn't work at all in, say, Star Trek.
That's not to say it couldn't work with some tweaks. I see two options:
1/ The demons take on the form of relevant weapons, staying as close to their norm as they can. So in Lord of the Rings, Closet could be a magic staff, Dumat a bow, and Ripely a sword. Since there's at least one talking sword in Middle-earth, he could even talk back (and if you weave a little galvorn into the makeup of the other two, so could they). But they'd still basically be weapons, and unable to act on their own. In something like Star Trek, you could look at intelligent weapons, or even androids.
2/ The demons are placed in normal disguises, and lose (the majority of) their powers. So in LotR, they might all be elves - much to their chagrin, I'm sure. I can see them trying their level best to get Errol to give them the most powerful disguises possible, and him constantly refusing and setting them as, like, rabbits or something - or, equally, trying his best and bending the rules to make them all balrogs.
Either of those notions (which are just off the top of my head) would work. Carting around actual demons into random verses? That's not so good.
Now, personality. You've pretty much given them one sentence each on this, which... isn't very much to go on. It's like describing the protagonist of The Hobbit as 'short, moderately wealthy, and gets multiple magical artefacts over the course of the story'. Yes, okay, that's accurate - but we don't read about Bilbo because of his height and ring. We read about him for his character, and his character growth and conflicts.
So, Closet speaks formally - are we thinking condescending? Mellow? Above it all? Furious formal put-downs? Insults? How does he cope with the fact that there's a wise-cracking Vetala along for the ride? Or is he wise-cracking as well? How does he feel about being basically a prisoner and pet? How does he feel about having a lot more freedom than he's used to? How does he feel about, technically, having a job?
And so on. I don't need answers to all those questions, by the way - but you need to know who these people are, and how they'll interact with each other. If your missions end up looking like this:
"Verily, I see the Sue," said Closet, using his instant death rune, which failed.
"See? You? That's a laugh!" said Ripely, slashing at a bit part with his rusted metal teeth.
"Focus," said Dumat coldly, teleporting Errol away from an attacking Stu.
"Now I'm angry!" bellowed Errol, and started hitting people himself.
... then you're doing it wrong. Readers want interaction, not lists of traits.
And coming back to Errol: you say 'passive-aggressive', but you seem to mean 'passive, or aggressive'. Passive-aggressive is a term for... well, Wikipedia says 'indirect expression of hostility'. Sarcasm, sulking, procrastination and the like. It's not 'normally calm until you get him cross'.
And then... oh, dear, another Blank Slate character. For some reason, people really like coming up with these. So, how long are you planning on showing him 'developing' for? Two missions? Four? Is it going to be shown through him being surprised by his own reactions? Maybe through him not having any reactions, and having to consciously decide 'right, when Ripely insults me, from now on I'll respond with sarcasm', which then becomes part of his personality? Or... are you just going to say that so you don't have to try and describe his personality? Because that's what usually happens. I'd really like to see something like one of the above descriptions - but I'm not at all sure that's where you're going.
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Also SMT demons do not work that way by
on 2014-10-31 11:06:00 UTC
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Namely they are stored in some kind of electronic device (Thus eliminating the need for a disguise) until summoned.
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Well, fine. by
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But that electronic device, and the demons it contains, is not going to be an acceptable weapon anywhere outside its home continuum. Since you mentioned they have UTs for independent operation, I assumed they were... y'know, capable of operating independently. Particularly since you claimed they were serving as partners for Errol, which wouldn't work if they were absent most of the time.
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I propose a contest by
on 2014-10-31 11:02:00 UTC
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Since I've noticed that the characters I create for the PPC are always worse than the ones I create for my own writings, I propose a character contest.
I am proposing this to you because you seem to have graded hundreds of characters in the last decade, but everyone that grades my other characters are inexperienced.
If you choose to accept, expect a GDOC with the traits and some dialogue for all the characters I am currently working on. Then we'll see how many steps above suethor I am. *Chuckles* -
Er... how is that a 'contest'? by
on 2014-10-31 11:54:00 UTC
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I have no idea what you're actually suggesting here.
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Let me clarify by
on 2014-10-31 12:30:00 UTC
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Well, as I said, If you choose to accept, I'll send you a Gdoc with information about some of the characters I've created for my other writings and I'll let you grade them.
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So... by
on 2014-10-31 12:49:00 UTC
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... you want me to beta your character ideas? That's not a 'challenge', either. You're presenting this as something I'd get something out of, whereas actually, I think you're just trying to ask me to do you a favour. No?
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Actually..... by
on 2014-10-31 12:55:00 UTC
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It's to see if my other characters are bad just like the ones I create for the PPC.
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on 2014-10-31 13:18:00 UTC
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1/ That's clearly a 'yes' to my previous question.
2/ Your characters back in April consisted of a terroristic sadist and someone you didn't tell us anything about, personality-wise. (this thread) When you were asked to flesh the latter out, you just copied what someone else suggested. The former, yes, is a bad character - but the latter is just... not putting the time in.
There are good ideas in your characters. But... how to put this? You seem to be building sets of powers and abilities and then sticking a personality on top. That's a good way to make a computer game - but it's a terrible way to make a character.
Do it the other way round. Create a personality - for an agent, for any other character you're coming up with - as if it were for a normal, everyday human being. Then add the abilities and see what changes. Once you have, say, a character with abandonment issues and a tendency to sulk when things don't go its way, it will be a well-rounded character whether you make it an elf who spends decades alone in the forest, a ghost which haunts its old house because it can't let go, or a spaceship which won't let its crew leave. (Or, for that matter, Dream of the Endless, who slots quite neatly into that description...)
This is particularly important in the PPC, where powers-and-abilities tend to be stripped away by disguises. If your character is solely about their skillset, then how are we supposed to recognise them when they're disguised as a teenaged orangutan?
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Uhh...... I'm not just working on PPC characters by
on 2014-10-31 13:55:00 UTC
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in fact, the PPC only composes a very small portion of my overall writing. The most percentage is taken by (you guessed it) a game Idea. after that comes a fanfic. I'm just asking if you would consider the characters from my other writings bad (After I've written and sent the doc, of course.)
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Yes, I understand that. by
on 2014-10-31 14:09:00 UTC
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And the advice you've received from numerous people, including myself, in this and other threads, applies equally to other character settings.
And... frankly? Given how hard you've been trying to present me looking over your characters as a favour you're doing me, and given that you've been going on and on about people thinking your characters bad and are now internet!shouting at me for linking to the thread you've been referring to: no, I have no particular interest in betaing your character ideas, whether you term it a 'contest', a 'challenge', or a 'just asking'.
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You know what: F**** off, all of you by
on 2014-10-31 14:22:00 UTC
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I am so F***king sick of everyone telling me "Oh.. your characters/concept suck(s) dick" or "You need to change this or else your character/concept/whatever the hell WILL suck dick", yes, yes, they all mask it by TRYING to be friendly, but that's what it boils down to.
Every single FREAKING time I tried to show my writing to other people, THEY ALWAYS SAY THE SAME THING: "x about your writing sucks dick" or some embellished variation thereof.
My first fic: bit-sue cross
My first agents: both stus
My 2nd game: unfortunate implications
My second agents: manufactured, and therefore bits
My 3rd agents: just plain "Not good enough"
yes, even the other rookie writers are leagues better than me! just check SkarmorySilver, who got permission on his first try, but every agent I try to create is a F***ing sue (or bit, just you get the idea).
*sighs* Well, down to the point. Goodbye, and good riddance
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I'm afraid you're hearing things that aren't there. by
on 2014-10-31 14:39:00 UTC
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The only person who has claimed your characters are bad in this thread is you. All I in particular have been saying is a) you need to say something about their personalities, rather than just their abilities, and b) here's some advice on how to better fit your characters into the PPC setting. If you're translating either of those as 'your characters suck', then you're getting a wildly different message to what anyone on the Board is sending.
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I'm DEFINITELY not the most mature person in the world by
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Because Every time someone says stuff like that, my brain works this way: "I see something wrong with this"="This is horrible."
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To me, criticizing someone's work is basically the same as flaming them UNLESS it's concrit. so yeah,I personally think what you're doing is stupid now.
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Hold up there, sparky. by
on 2014-10-31 15:15:00 UTC
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Maybe you're feeling a bit too thin skinned to see it, but what he's giving you is concrit. He's suggesting you work from personality up instead of powers down because of the limitations he pointed out that are part of how the PPC works.
You're doing the flaming and attacking here, because you just found out the hard way you can't play with the big kids, metaphorically speaking and you can't trick them into it.
That's not an attitude that's going to do you any good here, much less anywhere else.
You can run and take your ideas and bad attitude with you and find out you're going to get much the same everywhere else you go, acting like that, or you can apologize, suck it up the temporarily hurt feelings like an emotionally stable person who may or may not be an adult, and learn so you can do what you say you want to take part in.
You're the only one who can make that choice and before you think I am attacking you as well, I'm going to point out that I'm being downright nice. It's up to you whether you can improve or not. So long as you want that and aren't going to be a wailing arse about it you can stick around.
And before you whinge about how we're weighted unfairly, pointing at someone else? Check yourself.
I got denied my first time because I tried to jump the gun too quick and it took Desdendelle at least three tries and plenty of thinking before he got permission.
It happens.
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never create another agent idea again by
on 2014-11-01 01:06:00 UTC
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I give up. you won, It's confirmed my writing style in general just plain doesn't fit the PPC.
And no, I'm not an adult. even if I was, I'd be a very immature one. I have this bizarre, pathological need to defeat myself (Concerning that everyone thinks that A: my writing sucks, and B: my political views would hurt people if realized. it happens in every aspect of my life)
besides, now that I think about it, I don't think that the concept works out in practice for everyone.
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You're missing the point. by
on 2014-11-01 01:16:00 UTC
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No, I did not 'win'.
This may seem strange to you, but I don't actually get kicks outta hitting people until they're down and then kicking them for good measure.
Read over these threads. Think about who's saying what. Slamming on yourself doesn't help anyone, and maybe it's something to take into consideration in the future. We're not saying your writing sucks, just that it needs more thought put into it. I ain't even gonna touch on the politics comment.
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While July barks, she rarely bites, and her advice is sound.
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If I may step in... by
on 2014-11-01 03:25:00 UTC
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I'd like to give some advice. 7.65- can I call you that?- before you take criticism of any kind as a personal attack, reread it several times and wonder if the comment was meant to help or was just outright meant to hurt. Believe it or not, the majority of people in the world aren't mean on purpose, though it sure as hell can seem like it at times.
As for your agents, really take the time to get to know them. Why do they work for the PPC? What are their fears and weaknesses, their hopes and dreams? I had it easy because my agents started out as avatars of myself and a friend, but I know they're going to change the longer I write them.
Start with personalities, maybe. Who would you rather read about: an eager, not-yet-disillusioned-with-her-job agent who prefers to use a crowbar as a weapon because it's functional outside of combat, or a personality-less agent who can smite Sues without having to even lift a finger?Just ignore the blatant self-advertisement kthx
What I'm getting at is what others have been saying on the thread. Ask yourself why you want to write a specific agent. What would make them interesting besides their powers?
You're by no means a poor writer; just a little overeager. Chillax. Take a while to develop your agents and maybe next time don't go swearing at people. I promise it won't do you any favors and it really won't endear you to anybody. Nobody is out to make you feel bad. Everyone is their own worst critic.
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I'm actually going to put writing for the PPC behind me by
on 2014-11-01 06:27:00 UTC
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for now at least. I never really had plans to use these agents in the near-future because I'm busy. When I have time I might develop them, but I don't have time now.
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Five times, actually.
My point is this, though: ConCrit hurts more than flames. Flames are just "U sax balz", "ur an idiot", etc - people being immature. ConCrit, however, points out what you're doing wrong. Nobody likes that, but the first step to fixing your mistakes is knowing what they are. -
Re: There is a section on FF.net for it, but.... by
on 2014-10-29 14:13:00 UTC
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Your character sounds quite good. Oh, and with the demons/whatever, you may not need a partner. Oh, and by vetala, you mean the indian vampire, right?
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Yes, they serve as both weapons and partners by
on 2014-10-30 01:18:00 UTC
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Well, technically a Vetala is more of an evil poltergeist than a vampire.
Oh, I forgot to mention: My planned department is Floaters (Namely, because, as mentioned, I could deal with smutfic as well as my preferred badfic genre, suefic)
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Two things by
on 2014-10-28 20:34:00 UTC
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First off, something that I believe is slightly unorthodox, whilst walking a couple of days back I came up with an idea for a setting for a story, and I've developed it slightly into an (unbeta'd) story/thing, that after a small bit of thought I decided to post on the board and let other people, look at it (and if the want) write stories/whatever with it if they feel that way inclined. Warnings: Mentions death (in fact, death is a large part of it) and does provide an 'alternate' look on things like the afterlife, and does mention Gods, Angels, Demons (by name). So if you think it might offend/upset you, please don't read.
story/thing link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GiVC4OzfL4dyli42fGSDNhZymjR8AYp3GzF7yPDpaig/edit?usp=sharing
Music I was listening at time I came up with idea (so you don't think i'm that kind of creepy person who thinks of death all the time): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVlfuWCRpw
Secondly
WARNING: NSFW, I REPEAT N! S! F! W!
one badfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10499949/1/Kira-s-story-of-domination *shudders* (also NSFW, potentially NSFB at points)
I've been monitoring this one for a small while. Set in the Mass Effect universe, this contains a Sue (and maybe more), A 'cute' animal friend, lots of possession, OOCness and general character warping, large amounts of bad romance (most if not all of it femslash) and the literal act of sticking man bits on a female(s) *shudders again* also bad SPaG, but that's somehow relatively minor compared to everything else.
Badfic part over.
Consider the first part a present for Halloween and the second part a 'present' for Halloween.
Storme Hawk.
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Nice by
on 2014-11-11 13:00:00 UTC
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I like your Soul Collector story, you've got some really nice ideas for the setting in there. I particularly the image of a bunch of Collectors all trying to pick the lock to get at a guy that's sealed himself up.
Good choice of music to go with it too - I saw the document title as the youtube page was loading and instantly knew what song I'd pick.
There's a few grammar issues, mostly sentences that seem to go on for far too long - the last sentence of the first paragraph is over half the length of the paragraph, and could easily be broken up into 2 or 3 sentences. He's supposed to be talking to the reader, and doubt I could talk for that long without having to stop for breath. There are a few others sentences like that too.
While not technically incorrect, there are a couple of points where it feels like you're missing emphasis. For example, 'You see I’m a Soul Collector, not the Soul Collector' - I don't know much about this guy's character, so maybe he wouldn't put any inflection on those words, but if it had been me saying it I would have stressed them.
Also, near the beginning he says 'you see I made a deal with the devil, yes there’s a devil and yes I made a deal with one', then toward the end he refers to 'this guy we call Lucifer, whether he’s the devil himself or not we don’t care'. That seems contradictory - first he's telling us that the devil is definitely real, and that he made a deal with him, and then he's telling us that he's unsure if Lucifer is the devil or not. Surely he'd know whether or not the guy he made the deal with was Lucifer or someone else?
It's a cool idea, and I'd certainly read more of it. If you do decide to write any more, and want a beta, let me know. -
Kira's story of dominition by
on 2014-10-29 17:10:00 UTC
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What the heck did I just read? >.>
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I'm fairly certain I warned you. (nm) by
on 2014-10-29 20:23:00 UTC
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Driftwood plug, a re-release, and Taking Requests. by
on 2014-10-29 10:16:00 UTC
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First up, and unfortunately about a day too late for the person who requested it to actually see it:
PPC: Driftwood - Opposite Reaction Same Result
In which moral quandaries surrounding the treatment of eleven-year-old girls are resolved. Set in The Parent Trap (1998 film).
Secondly, since it's become relevant, I've completely rewritten Dafydd and Selene's Interlude 1. Bear in mind this takes place before Selene admits to being a vampire, and before Dafydd admits to being an elf. The original is linked at the end if you want to see the differences.
Thirdly and finally: the next Driftwood mission is already in the works, but I'll take requests for the one after that if you've got them, on a 'first come, only served' basis. Less than 6000 words, rated T or lower, and with some notes on why you think it's bad, please! The Intelligence Report format below can be used, but doesn't have to be.
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Fic: [Title & link]
Continuum: [Continuum/-a]
Description: [Your summary]
Type of Badfic: [ie, what department would it fall under]
Plot Holes: [Brief description of the biggest holes in the plot]
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Now I want to rewatch The Parent Trap. by
on 2014-10-30 00:00:00 UTC
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Both of them.
All in all, an excellent mission! I loved the unorthodox exorcism, and the confrontation between Kaitlyn and Selene was very well-written. It's probably a good thing Selene didn't nom any bits- there might be traces of glitter in them. You never know. -
Thanks! by
on 2014-10-30 11:48:00 UTC
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The exorcism was mostly unorthodox because I didn't feel like clubbing preteen girls with DVD cases was a good idea ^_~. Glad you liked it!
Glitter... hrm. Would bit parts actually have glitter in their blood? I suppose at least one counsellor is mentioned in the fic, but Kaitlyn stole her role. That means that in theory, they should just be the canon characters. But on the other hand, they're sitting by and letting their boss do something frankly insane, so maybe they're OOC even while off-screen...
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Re: mission by
on 2014-10-29 20:47:00 UTC
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I liked the way you handled that mission. The mirror idea was excellent. It was a creative and different way of handling an exorcism for characters who weren't quite . . . traditionally? Out of character. It was also nice to read a mission where the main problem was just faulty characterization on a fairly mundane level, rather than some big, magical, universe-ending thing.
Also, I like the scenes with Selene's hunger getting stronger. You wrote her in a way that made me sorry and sympathetic for her, even though what she was wanting to do was, at face value, awful. But I also appreciate that you had Agent Kaitlyn call her on it, then offer to help enact a solution.
I've been looking real hard for a Dark Tower badfic to offer up. But . . . Stephen King fans are just too high-caliber; I can never find any bad ones. I found a cute little goodfic, though, so have that! -
Thank you! by
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I'm glad the Selene thing worked out; it was actually going to be in the last mission, but that of course got taken over by wolves... anyway, it stalled out the writing for a little while until I got it sorted, so I'm glad it worked.
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Re: Driftwood plug by
on 2014-10-29 14:34:00 UTC
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Are you familiar with The Legend of Zelda? Cause I found a fic that's setting off all kinds of alarm bells.
Fic: The Mysteries of Hyrule (https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10720410/1/The-Mysteries-of-Hyrule)
Continua: Legend of Zelda (Toon Link timeline except Phantom Hourglass, Ocarina of Time, Four Swords, Skyward Sword, and Hyrule Warriors. Not kidding.)
Description: As far as I can tell, the author's/submitted OCs run around in time-squiggled Hyrule and aid/replace various versions of Link.
Type of Badfic: Mary Sue/Improbable AU
Plot holes/biggest offenses: Besides the mentioned time-squiggle, there's a fairy created by Hylia herself (the creator goddess) to aid the main Sue--who explicitly says that only Kokiri get fairies, mind you--characters are shoved in willy-nilly, and...just, bleh. If you won't kill it, I will after I get permission. -
Unfortunately not. by
on 2014-10-29 15:15:00 UTC
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My only real contact with it has been reading LQ's rants - not her actual stories, you understand, but her rants. They're fun.
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Permission to update the bleepfic page?(NSFW) by
on 2014-10-30 07:57:00 UTC
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Uhh... I know I mentioned these before, but can someone put these on the bleepfic page:
//www.fanfiction.net/s/7775173/1/Empty-Cradles
Yes, the one where 13-year-old Itachi DeBags and then sucks off an 8 year old Sasuke.
//www.fanfiction.net/s/8349097/1/Burn
Uhhh.... the only word to describe this is.... SASUKERAPESITACHISCORPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!one!11111
To note: I actually found these from reading a rather scathing review of (you guessed it) FEYO. The same person who wrote the review made these two fics as well. -
Uhhh..sorry, I need a refresher on link-making (nm) by
on 2014-10-30 07:58:00 UTC
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To make a link, write the address, starting from www, not // (nm by
on 2014-11-01 10:43:00 UTC
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I can help with the link-making refresher! by
on 2014-10-31 21:47:00 UTC
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Links are made like so:
text| (only without the |s) (On that note, if anyone knows how to get the Board to ignore html...much obliged if you'd tell me, because I only know how to do that on the wiki.) Make sure that the url you're putting in has the http:// before it (ie, http://nanowrimo.org; if it doesn't, you'll end up with a link that looks about like this, which is pretty annoying. Putting the http:// gives you the proper link, which is what you want.
On another note, I've just discovered that the method I described above is only necessary if you want to show linked text instead of the url itself; if you don't mind having just the url, adding the http:// in front of it seems to link it automatically, like so: http://www.tumblr.com
And that concludes today's lesson! This has been Experimental HTML with DawnFire. We wish you luck in all your coding adventures...
~DF
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It's my birthday! by
on 2014-10-30 16:13:00 UTC
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So I was born 18 years ago today. People keep asking how it feels to be a legal adult now, but nothing's really changed. Hey, free cake, though!
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Happy belated birthday! by
on 2014-10-31 23:32:00 UTC
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Sorry for being a day late!
I think that this is the first time that I've ever wished you a happy birthday, isn't it? If so, then allow me to give my usual birthday present: a Pokemon that loves to give Presents, namely, Delibird!
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Re: Happy belated birthday! by
on 2014-11-01 01:09:00 UTC
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I like those chances! *rips open box*
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KABOOM. (nm) by
on 2014-11-01 02:55:00 UTC
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*tosses cakefetti* by
on 2014-10-30 21:57:00 UTC
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Have my unorthodox birthday song!
HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
MAY ALL YOUR WISHES COME TRUE
DON'T LET ANYONE MAKE YOU BLUE
AND HOPE YOUR CAKE DOESN'T EXPLODE IN GOO!
Yeah, the last two lines I can't seem to keep consistent. Oh, well! -
Happy Birthday! by
on 2014-10-30 20:45:00 UTC
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*showers you with golden sparkles* *tosses you a Generic Gift*
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Happy birthday! by
on 2014-10-30 20:26:00 UTC
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I don't know you too well, so have some chocolate cake! (You can never go wrong with chocolate, in my experience.)
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Re: Happy birthday! by
on 2014-10-30 20:32:00 UTC
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Oh, definitely - I actually got a triple chocolate cake today! I'm probably going to end up eating 80% of it, at least.
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Happy Halloween! by
on 2014-10-31 15:56:00 UTC
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I want to dress as a different Flying-type (in character) or a Skarmory (OOC) but I have more important things to do with my life ;_; Ah well...
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Re: Happy Halloween! by
on 2014-11-03 07:15:00 UTC
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Happy Halloween!
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Happy Halloween, all! by
on 2014-11-01 07:59:00 UTC
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I went as a brightlady from the Stormlight Archive. It was great fun!
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Lucky you by
on 2014-11-01 01:12:00 UTC
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They don't celebrate Halloween in Korea.
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! 안녕하십니까! by
on 2014-11-01 01:26:00 UTC
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너는한국에서살고있어요?
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No, I can't read (or even speak) Korean. (nm) by
on 2014-11-01 01:53:00 UTC
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-shrugs- by
on 2014-10-31 20:45:00 UTC
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Happy yet-another-holiday-they-don't-celebrate here, everybody.
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Muahahappy Hallowe'en! by
on 2014-10-31 17:14:00 UTC
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I plan to... sit at home, do nothing, and hand out sweets to the children who will doubtless come knocking. Adulthood is, uh, 'fun'...?
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It's gonna be a cold night here in Chicago. by
on 2014-10-31 17:00:00 UTC
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We've just had our first snow of the season. >.
'Course, in my experience, Halloween night is almost always freezing no matter what. Thanks, Ironic Overpower!
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We're expecting snow tonight, too! by
on 2014-10-31 17:29:00 UTC
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Which has everyone in a fit, because nobody in southern Indiana can handle snow. Seriously, half an inch and they're canceling school.
Speaking of, I wore my HP cosplay to school- I mean, I dressed very nicely in a tie and sweater that just happen to resemble the costumes from the movies! If you wear a 'costume' to school, you get detention.I'm such a rebel
And anybody who says I'm too old to Trick-or-Treat is a filthy rotten liar. Seventeen is not too old, thank you very much! -
Not quite snow here, but... by
on 2014-11-01 23:44:00 UTC
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(Sorry for the late reply... research ^^;)
I don't cosplay anymore, alas, as college never gives me time for holidays (I know I spend my free time writing and drawing and stuff, but still!). Ah well. Also, it's becoming super-cold here in Ohio too; when I worked in the yard today with my dad, I couldn't feel my toes when I came back in! XD
On an unrelated note, I hear you wanted to write a collab with me when you replied to my previous mission? I noticed you were into Pokemon when I looked at your profile, and I happen to have an entire anthology of badfics from a particular author that I've been meaning to tackle for quite some time! It's a pretty big Endeavor, though, so if you're interested in helping out, just let me know ^_^ -
Did someone say POKéMON?! by
on 2014-11-02 02:30:00 UTC
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I'm well-versed in the games' canon (though I haven't played R/S/E to the end, I've read up on the plotline) and know the mechanics backward and forward, though I'm afraid I'm only familiar with parts of the anime.
Anyway, I don't know if Rina and Randa (or Zeb? It'll depend on how soon we'd be able to write together) would be much help for a badass sphinx like Rashida, but we know our way around a weapon. :) Obviously, Sues are our specialty.
By the way, your first mission sent me into an Incredibles phase. I bet you're pleased.
(And last might, my ears were so numb and in pain I wanted to cut them off. My poor brother had it worse- he wore gloves but his fingers still swelled up like sausages.) -
"Why, yes, I'm a Pokémon fan. How did you guess?" by
on 2014-11-02 04:51:00 UTC
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No surprise there, seeing that we're apparently in neighboring states. And that's not counting the fact that I intend to take a teaching job in New York next year, with record snowfalls and all that winter nonsense... Arceus help me... *shudders*
The fics I plan for us to tackle take place in the anime continuum, which I happen to know pretty well (I binged quite heavily on the original series as a child). For the mission I have in mind, I plan for another split-up, with Rashida and Sarah taking care of a mission of their own; I think Rina and Randa would be pretty helpful as far as Falchion is concerned, though. And anyway, I - er, he could use a little help training an old acquaintance of his. I won't spoil anything publicly just yet, other than the fact that he appeared in that Incredibles mission you mentioned (Awesome, btw!).
I've got a few other missions to take care of before then, but I'll let you know when I'm ready for the one in question. I'd still like to know your email address, just in case! :) -
Did someone say "New York"?! by
on 2014-11-03 18:10:00 UTC
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Where, exactly, will you be going? And what will you be teaching?
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Yep :) by
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I'm actually planning on going to Farmingdale, Long Island, and I've already sent an application for an adjunct teaching position in computer science in fact.
If it doesn't pan out, though, there's always California. At least I won't have to worry about all that snow! XD -
I might have guessed from your username. Lucky hunch, amirit by
on 2014-11-02 06:53:00 UTC
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Anywho, I've been binge-watching Indigo League as of late, so I might be of more help than I originally thought.
And hey, I totally get the whole 'wanting to do other missions' thing. Still, my email's artemis.hunt@att.net. Might as well send me a note so I can add you to my contacts. This is going to be fun; I can't wait to get started!
And by Mew, all the way to New York?! You do realize they don't cancel anything due to snow unless you can't get out of your house? -
Seventeen is definitely not too old. by
on 2014-10-31 21:32:00 UTC
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I really hope not, anyways; that means I can get another year out of Trick-or-Treating. :P
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A Halloween treat for you all! by
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No tricks here. I've whipped up a PPC Loftcraft-style AU one-shot for your reading pleasure. I've never written anything in the horror genre before now, so any concrit as to my effectiveness would be doubly appreciated. Many thanks to Neshomeh both for betaing and for lending me the character of Jenni Robinson.
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Quite good by
on 2014-11-03 21:09:00 UTC
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I loved the tone and the pacing. It conjured images in my mind of an old New England campus under a dull leaden sky. There is only one way that I think it could have been improved: it could have been longer.
A longer story could have meant more mystery and suspense. You brought both of those to the table in satisfactory amounts, but I'm a bit of a glutton and would have enjoyed a larger feast.
All-in-all, very well done.
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Nicccce. by
on 2014-11-03 10:48:00 UTC
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That's supposed to be an extended sibilant - 'nisssse' seemed wrong, somehow.
Nice. I was genuinely tense, waiting to find out how it would end - and the journal framing is very Lovecraft. As is not showing us the 'monster' much at all - very good.
'course, now I have to add the Canonical Preservation League to the Multiverse Atlas... I think they can be listed as 'the Unspeakable Verse'.
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"The Unspeakable Verse"... I like that. (nm) by
on 2014-11-03 13:42:00 UTC
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Creepy ... by
on 2014-11-01 22:53:00 UTC
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Probably not the best idea to read this just before bedtime. :/
But I loved it. All the details (like 'De Plaughtoules') were just spot-on and it worked both as a PPC story and a Lovecraft homage.
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Really good! by
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An issue that a lot of creepy stories have is pacing, and you definitely nailed that. Well done!
I also love the way you incorporated PPC-related terminology in a manner that was Lovecraftian, such as C'l'br'n and Ehnobei and the other badfics. Very cool. -
Well... by
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There goes my ability to sleep tonight. Bravo, well done!
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Well-done indeed! by
on 2014-11-01 00:59:00 UTC
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A fitting Halloween story.
There are, however, two small issues, both found in the following sentence:
Her surroundings looked no better in the flickering flame then they had illuminated by the lights in the hall.
First off, there's a then/than error: no better in the flickering flame then they had...
Secondly, this sentence could be made more readable with the addition of a word or two:
Her surroundings looked no better in the flickering flame than they had been when illuminated by the lights in the hall.
I highly recommend adding the second word; adding the first word as well is optional.
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Thanks for catching those! Corrected. (nm) by
on 2014-11-03 13:39:00 UTC
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No problem. by
on 2014-11-03 18:06:00 UTC
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BTW, did you get my e-mails?
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Dude. This story. I got chills. by
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The last part, especially, with the fountain pen... *shivers* Thanks in advance for the nightmares.
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*shivers* Well done, sir. (nm) by
on 2014-11-01 00:03:00 UTC
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That should say Lovecraft-style, not Loftcraft. (nm) by
on 2014-10-31 23:29:00 UTC
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