Oct 2014 Archive, part a

  • New team, new mission, and Now Taking Requests. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-01 10:05:00 UTC Link to this

    Are you ready for this?

    PPC: Driftwood is my new series, intended to put a lie to the notion that PPC missions have to be fifty pages long and only released once a year or so. Jay and Acacia put out 25 missions in a year or so, and there's no reason we can't still do the same. For reference, the prologue + first mission here were begun on Monday. See what I mean?

    And... I'm taking requests for their next mission, on a 'first come, only served' basis. Specific requirements:

    -The badfic needs to be short; not more than 6000 words, please.
    -The badfic should be rated no higher than T/PG-13.
    -Please tell me why you think it's bad! You can use the Intelligence Report format (below the line underneath), or something less formal, but don't just throw me a link and say 'this is a bad story'.
    -The one you can't judge... I have to know the canon! I'm not even going to try and list what I know, so just post and I'll say if I don't. I will note that, barring 'Pokemon games up to Platinum', I don't think I'm familiar with anything in the anime-manga continuua.

    So - what've you got for me?

    hS



    Intelligence Report Template:

    Fic: [Title & link]
    Description: [Your summary]
    Plot Holes: [Brief description]
    Problem Passages:
    1) "[Brief excerpt]" [Reason it's bad]
    2) "[Brief excerpt]" [Reason it's bad]
    OC: [Name of main OC, if any]
    Type: [OC description]
    Offenses Against Canon: [Broad categories of charges]
    Additional Comments: [Anything else?]

    • Well, I liked it. {= ) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-02 16:03:00 UTC Link to this

      I pretty much agree with what doctorlit said. My favorite stuff was the dialogue between the agents, seeing how their relationship is beginning to form. Seems like they're going to work well together.

      Just... try not to make out like writing slowly/not being amazingly prolific is a bad thing? At least one person I can recall quit the PPC because they felt bad about not writing enough (that was Inkling), and some of us can't churn out a gazillion words in a go like you can, whether it's due to time constraints or just because our brains don't work that fast.

      ~Neshomeh, who will probably never win at NaNo.

      • For the record, then: by Huinesoron on 2014-10-02 16:29:00 UTC Link to this

        I am a master at writing incredibly slowly. I still have Kayleigh and Salamander's mission into Dragon Fever on file, which predates most of the planning for Crashing Down - ie, it was begun in 2006 or earlier. I also have Narto and Lou's last mission, and I don't know if you remember the year-and-a-half break I took in the middle of Reorg?

        But there are 50+ of us here, and the ten missions on the Wiki front page go clear back to March. Four of them are mine. I'm not complaining that [person X] isn't writing fast enough - I'm complaining that no-one is writing at all.

        And yes, that includes me. Agent Huinesoron is in the middle of his third mission, and has been for some time. Then there's all that stuff I mentioned above.

        So this is something different. This is putting missions on the Board at a pace we haven't seen in a decade - and on the front page of Fanfiction.net, where many of us got out start.

        This... is PPC: Driftwood. And I'm already halfway through Mission #2.

        hS has just reread Fine Structure and might be speechifying a bit

        • Oh, And One More Thing (TM): by Huinesoron on 2014-10-02 16:41:00 UTC Link to this

          Probably more important than the above, actually...

          It's not about writing speed. It's about, as I see it, length. We all (myself included!) have this burning desire to kill the worst of the worst fics by having our agents analyse every line, record every charge, grouch about each problem, and also work in their own overarching plot and deep personal traumas at multiple points in the mission (and let's make sure there's a whole bunch of references to other agents, probably including cameos and and and).

          And that's one way of writing missions - but it doesn't have to be the way. It probably shouldn't be, in fact, for the same reason we shouldn't have Emergencies every five minutes - they lose their impact. A series of short, simple missions leading up to the big set-piece can work just as well. That's what I'm trying with Agent hS, in fact.

          But equally, we can have short, simple missions without the finale. Why not? Not everything needs to be a gripping saga. Have you never watched a TV show which you wished would stop with that stupid arc plot and just go back to monster-of-the-week episodes? In our case it was The Mentalist. Well, Driftwood is your monster-of-the-week(ish) PPC fix. Go read Agent Huinesoron if you want my drama and arc missions - you won't find them here.

          Now if you'll excuse me, I have to see a girl about a horse. She thinks she recognises it, see.

          hS might shut up now - no promises

          PS: I have no idea how this is coming across. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down, not to cast nasturtiums at anyone. Waste of good flowers, that. ~hS

          • Thanks for clarifying. by Neshomeh on 2014-10-03 17:16:00 UTC Link to this

            I know you're not intending to cast aspersions (or nasturtiums). I just felt like I should speak up for those of us like myself, who are unable to write quickly (at least not anything good) except in the most extraordinary of circumstances. Even my much shorter, simpler first missions took me a year each to finish on average—the second one only appears to have been completed faster because I switched 1 and 2 midway through, so 2 was already half-done when I finished 1.

            The fastest I ever got a PPC story done was "The Dark Side" (17,659 words), most of which was a cowrite between me and Phobos, so we could physically pass the thing back and forth and have real-time discussion and feedback about what was going on. Still took us two months, and that's when we were both working at Blockbuster and had too much free time due to crappy hours and no social life. I doubt we could pull it off now.

            And say what you like about being slow, but you're still far and away the most prolific PPC writer out of anybody, not to mention a multiple NaNo winner, and you manage to do a lot of things despite having a real job and a family. So, just saying, it's all well and good for you to crank out a bunch of monster-of-the-week stories in an attempt to show us how it's done—and they'll be good and we'll enjoy reading them, and some people really could stand to scale things back some, so I'm not saying it's at all a bad idea—but we can't all be you, even if we wanted to. I want to make sure everyone knows that's okay.

            ~Neshomeh

    • Re: mission by doctorlit on 2014-10-02 08:19:00 UTC Link to this

      Very fun! You definitely delivered the feeling of the Original Series, with the mission being to-the-point, but still long enough to allow the agents time to let their personalities show through their actions and reactions. I . . . don't really have anything negative to say! doctorlit will shut up sooner for once!

      Just to share my two cents on the topic of mission length: I get what you're wanting to show, that not every mission needs to be long and complex, but to be honest, I prefer reading longer missions. I literally read both the introduction and "Winterwood" in the time it took to clean my teeth before going to bed. (Which takes about an hour, because I inherited terrible teeth genes, just to be clear.) And there's nothing wrong with that, but it's also not as immersive for me. When I read a story, I want to feel like I'm there, in that world, and spend a long time getting to know it. But I guess that's just my brain's legacy as a longtime novel reader, it's just my preference. (And I'm enough of a glutton for reading to take whatever I can get.)

      —doctorlit lied about shutting up sooner!

      (Man, the first Frozen mission took way longer to appear than I expected.

      ♪Do you want to spork a badfiiiiiic?
      And find the problems with the plooooooot♪)

      • Frozen song parody? by Iximaz on 2014-10-02 15:38:00 UTC Link to this

        ♪Do you want to spork a badfiiiiiiic?
        Come on, the console's BEEPed!
        We never get vacations, true
        Don't feel so blue
        It's time we did our joooooooob!

        I know it drives us crazy-
        All these Mary Sues-
        I wish they would all just diiiiiiiiiie!

        Do you want to spork a badfic?
        It doesn't have to be a Bleepfic!♪


        ♪Do you want to spork a badfiiiiiic?
        And find the problems with the plooooooot
        I think some spellchecking is overdue,
        I've started banging my poor head against the waaaaaaall!♪

        ♪It gets really upsetting,
        All these minis here
        Are making me want to cryyyyyyyy!♪
        *insert mini sounds*

    • Ooh! by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2014-10-02 07:42:00 UTC Link to this

      That was fantastic! I love what you're doing here, and I love the concept, and all the interactions! It's really lovely. I especially liked the fact that it was short, honestly--I really need to go to sleep.

      -Aila

      (Wow, I really went into lurk-mode for a couple of weeks there, didn't I?)

    • Hrm. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-01 19:35:00 UTC Link to this

      Didn't the Pit prohibit posting missions, MSTings and the like to the site or something?

      • They've banned MSTs. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-02 08:14:00 UTC Link to this

        They specifically define that as 'inserting comments between the lines of a copied story'. I think PPC missions are vastly different to that.

        Of course, FF.n admins are notoriously fickle, so they may take it down simply for someone saying they don't like it. But hey, Jay and Acacia coped with that, I'm sure I can too. ;)

        hS

    • Brony Badfic request by James Shields on 2014-10-01 19:22:00 UTC Link to this

      Fic: The Smarty Complex
      Description: This one is actually only bad because of technical issues. But there are so many of those. Bad SPaG, walls of text, run-ons, overly long description and bad pacing.

      Plot Holes: Not much actually. Maybe how the animation spell
      works in this story though.

      Problem Passages:
      1) "Twilight awoke in a soft cot, soft sheets enveloping her. She [bad error, Twilight is a she!] sighed, relaxing as she sank into the bed. It was lovely, she was worn out, after all, creating a new life form in its entirety. However, her mind was clouded with worry as she facehoofed for being so careless. She needed to take Smarty Pants to a doctor’s appointment. But, she’ll only be there for a few days before I turn her back. Twilight cringed again, arguing with herself. There’s something about her though, something that drew her to me, some kind of bond. She knew there was a part of her that wanted to keep Smarty Pants. Something about her coat, something about her eyes, even her odd hair. Everything about her seemed, She didn’t know what it seemed like, whatever this feeling was, she couldn’t put her hoof on it Twilight soon however was overcome by the logic in her mind. She isn’t meant to be alive, she isn’t meant to be a foal. She’s a toy, that’s what she always would be. But, then again, it’ll probably take me a week or so to build my energy again, and it might be worth it just to see. She resolved it [‘Resolved it’? maybe she decided she would take Smarty to the Doctor, or something similar. Resolved isn’t usually the term for thoughts.], she was going to take Smarty for a doctor’s appointment. She bolted up from the cot, shaking herself awake. She was determined to help the foal for as long as she had to while she built up her arcana [Arcana? Well, it is your decision. However there are a few more common terms. ‘Strength’ ‘Energy’ ‘Focus’ or even ‘Mana’, but still your choice on this one.] once again."

      Huge wall of text plus what are apparently editor's notes were left in.


      2) "No, she was an inanimate object. But what if, all the times we had spoken to Smarty all those years ago, some part of her was wishing she could speak back, letting all of her emotions out? She was a doll, she had no emotions. She’s like francium suddenly becoming bromine, one thing becoming something completely different. Yet, how would it feel to have a taste of the most beautiful food ever tasted, and have it snatched away from you by some torturer. Was she killing Smarty Pants, or restoring her. She was ending the life of a foal. No, she knew there was something about the new, living Smarty Pants that had moved somewhere in her heart, well, in her brain, there are no emotions in the heart, it only pumps blood. Never mind. Twilight gazed at Smarty, who was cooing at her, smiling as she embraced her Mother. Twilight sighed, she knew she couldn’t turn Smarty into a doll, how could she do that to an adorable little foal. She smiled again, and faced Smarty Pants."

      Smaller,internal dialogue wall of text. Pacing problems regarding Twilight deciding things too quickly, making it already pretty clear what decision she is going to make in the ending.

      Offenses Against Canon: [Broad categories of charges]

      Additional Comments: I am mostly sending you this because of the whole concrit at the end of the mission angle you are going with this series. This story actually has a potentially good premise, but that is currently obscured under the technical errors, specially the troublematic pacing that is basically killing any suspense over Twilight's decision regarding turning Smarty Pants back or not.

      • Now that's a canon I don't know. Sorry! by Huinesoron on 2014-10-03 16:00:00 UTC Link to this

        I'm also not sure how easy a SPaG badfic would be to mission... might be interesting to try, but it'd probably be quite short (not that I'm complaining about that!). Of course, Araeph and the DTE can make them lengthy, but I'm not Araeph - I have different pet peeves.

        Either way, I can't take this story; I don't know the canon.

        hS

        • Well, it couldn't hurt to ask right? by James Shields on 2014-10-03 18:31:00 UTC Link to this

          If you don't know the Canon, then I guess there's not much you
          can do about it. It's a pity. I think this story is a diamond in the rough. The premise is great, but the execution is marred by just so many errors.

          I can't really do anything about it myself. I would love to, but I don't have permission yet and I don't think I am at the point where I could offer to beta something like this. Though
          at this point the fic might be dead anyway, since the author hasn't posted anything since last year

    • I was browsing FF.net and I saw PPC Driftwood... by Tigeress on 2014-10-01 17:42:00 UTC Link to this

      Aaanyway... Here you are!

      Fic: No Safe Place
      http://www.quotev.com/story/2838998/No-Safe-Place-Legolas-Love-Story/
      Description: this is actually pretty bad. I found Arogorn, Ring Wraths, and this OC looks like a definite Mary Sue. Summary excerpted from the story:
      Erillin is the younger sister of Arwen, Princess of Rivendale. Lord Elrond has hidden her true identity from her and keeps her hidden within the Elven Realm of Rivendale. She can do things no other elf can do... [+tenth walker Legomance]
      Problem Passages
      Example 1: I started shooting my arrows with perfect aim, swinging my sword with amazing precision, and slicing my twin daggers with marvelous power. [Amazing precision... Perfect aim... What a 'Sue!]
      Example 2: The man stood and walk over to Frodo. I guess It was my turn. "You have my daggers and my shoulder to cry on if you need it." [The author has a strange habit of capitalizing random Things.]
      OC: Erillin
      Type: Elf-Sue, Elrond's daughter
      Offences Against Canon: Tenth Walker, grammar issues, lots of characters OOC, tense shifting (It seems), etc..
      Addition Comments: if you don't take this on, believe me, I will. :)

    • Interesting premise, by son_of_heaven176 on 2014-10-01 15:22:00 UTC Link to this

      trying to revive the frequency of the Original Series. And I really liked the concrit bit at the end of the mission; it helps to show that we aren't a bunch of spoilsports out to ruin others' fun. More missions should have that, IMHO, though I admit that some people are better able at spotting errors than at correcting them.

      tl;dr: Good concept. Loved the concrit at the end; more missions should have it, but I know it's not for everyone.

    • Absolutely spectacular! by Iximaz on 2014-10-01 12:45:00 UTC Link to this

      I think... I think the reason why you were able to write it so quickly is because you didn't include too many direct quotes from the badfic. The Original Series was very similar in that regard. Maybe that's the key to faster missions...?

      Anyway, new mission for Kaitlyn and Selene!


      Title: And So The Journey Begins

      Description: A modern girl uses wall-of-text urple prose to describe how heartbroken she is over her ex-fiancée before finding a portal that takes her to Middle Earth.

      Problem Passage 1: "Her stubborn heart had prevailed over her will of succumb to sleep. The world kept turning and it was only her little world that had ceased. That bliss that was no longer what she came home to. She couldn't deny that it was pathetic, wallowing in her own misery whilst across the globe there was surely someone rejoicing at the mere essence of life. She once believed in fairytales and happily ever afters but now, reality had taken hold and slapped her over the face like a scorned being." ALL THE URPLE PROSE. And this continues through the whole fic, from what I've seen...

      Problem Passage 2: "Lord Elrond nodded reservedly, "I had not realised that orcs have spread to the north as well or have you come from Gondor?" He inquired, looking distastefully at her attire." I have... no words...

      Main OC: Guinevere Archer (because Legolas is an archer, of course)

      OC Type: Modern fan of Tolkien's who falls into Middle Earth and falls in love with Prince Legolas.

      Charges: Overly-flowery descriptions of just about everything, apparently there are orcs taking human slaves at an establishment near Rivendell, Lord Elrond is a condescending jerk to the Sue but warms up to her wit...

      Additional notes: the author says Guinevere isn't meant to be a Mary Sue. They never are.

      • That... is not short. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-01 12:58:00 UTC Link to this

        That's a triple-NANO story. It's longer than The Return of the King. It's painful to read, but it's so impossibly long...

        hS

        • I screwed up, didn't I? >_> by Iximaz on 2014-10-01 13:05:00 UTC Link to this

          Once again, my overeagerness gets the better of me. *sigh* Sorry.

          • It's okay. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-01 13:14:00 UTC Link to this

            I looked over it anyway, but frankly the beginning is so long for so few changes - I'm not sure she speaks during the Council, like, at all - that unless she does some serious meddling with the...

            Oh gods.

            Oh ye most holy Valar of the West Beyond West.

            She saves Boromir. And then... okay, I take it back, I'm definitely killing this. See, she's in the middle of a rewrite. So she saves Boromir in Chapter 9 - and then in Chapter 10, she's teleported to Aragorn's side and he's gone again - back to Gondor, by Chapter 13's words.

            I'm taking it. It'll be a little unorthodox, but I'm taking it.

            hS

            • Does that mean I should go ahead and spork the one I posted? (nm by Tigeress on 2014-10-02 06:27:00 UTC Link to this
              • Up to you. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-03 15:57:00 UTC Link to this

                It looked rather longer than the 6K words I asked for, though, so even if you save it for my next requests, I might well say no on closer examination. So you can certainly take it if you like!

                hS

                • Alright! :D I'm taking it. (nm) by Tigeress on 2014-10-03 16:29:00 UTC Link to this
      • Dangit, forgot the link. by Iximaz on 2014-10-01 12:51:00 UTC Link to this

        https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10078251/1/

  • Beta for permission request? by november14 on 2014-10-01 16:05:00 UTC Link to this

    I need a beta for my permission request (as of yet incomplete)
    . Stuff the beta will need to do is to point out problems with the doc, such as sues or flat characters. Send me an email if you are interested. My adress is hasanadil233@gmail.com.

    • Tag by Storme_Hawk on 2014-10-02 09:31:00 UTC Link to this

      I will, however I can't at the moment as I currently don't have internet at home, seeing as I've just moved in and everything. I'll send you an email when it's all sorted out, which should be in the next couple of days.

  • New Interlude! by Desdendelle on 2014-10-01 16:18:00 UTC Link to this

    Some of you may remember SeaTurtle's Rudi RP that petered out a while back. Because I had so much fun, I decided to make the thread I was involved in canon, in interlude form.

    Therefore: Frank Exchange of Views by me and SeaTurtle.

    • My thoughts. by PoorCynic on 2014-10-15 21:31:00 UTC Link to this

      The dialogue in this piece feels a bit odd what with everyone going on these long, uninterrupted tangents. I presume that’s just an artifact of the original message-based RP, but it still reads strangely to me.

      I was also not a fan of how it felt like Des and the Guardsman were just swapping backstories and character-building facts with each other. While all that’s very nice to know, at the same time it feels very artificial. It goes get a bit better on when they actually start swapping stories.

      One minor nitpick: ”[...]Don't mind if I do, Agent Des,” beamed the Time Lord as he allowed himself to crash into the seat opposite Des. One cannot “beam” dialogue unless one is some sort of robot communicating via electronic signals. “Said with a wide smile” or something similar would be more accurate.

      Overall, this was pretty enjoyable. I think it could be edited to be a lot tighter in terms of dialogue and pacing, but that might be taking it too far from the original RP. Kudos and well done to the both of you!

    • Re: New Interlude! by november14 on 2014-10-04 07:19:00 UTC Link to this

      There is a small problem with your Permission settings on the G doc... it keeps allowing me to comment. I suggest that you fix this, or someone may accidentally damage it.

      • Hm. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-04 20:56:00 UTC Link to this

        It's probably a leftover. Small matter.

    • Lack of familiarity with the involved continuua aside... by SkarmorySilver on 2014-10-02 15:11:00 UTC Link to this

      ...I got a real kick out of the part where you bought up my own Agents, including that one disastrous mission that led to Rashida transferring to Floaters in the first place (and yes, I would like to revisit that particular incident soon. I have plans for it...). I have to second Huinesoron in that you might want to edit the "something something Giza" part, though - it's Rashida Mafdetiti now, actually.

      In light of this, I'd actually like to have my own Agents meet up with yours. Maybe either via another interlude or, preferably, on an actual mission?

      • The RP is still open, by the way. by SeaTurtle on 2014-10-02 19:33:00 UTC Link to this

        If you want to RP, just start a new thread to get the ball rolling.

        • doctorlit and I are still going, even. by Neshomeh on 2014-10-02 20:53:00 UTC Link to this

          And we're making it into an interlude when we're done, too, I think. {= )

          ~Neshomeh

          • Might eventually join. Kinda forgot. (nm) by Ekyl on 2014-10-02 21:08:00 UTC Link to this
            • I want to... by Thantosiet on 2014-10-03 01:05:00 UTC Link to this

              ...But I'm so far from Permissions I'm not even sure if my current potential Agents will be put forward as Agents someday.

              • That's not a problem. by SeaTurtle on 2014-10-03 01:15:00 UTC Link to this

                This RP doesn't need Permission to participate in and is canon-optional, so nothing is concrete. Feel free to drop by if you want to have a go at it!

                • I also plan on joining in at some point. by the Irish Samurai on 2014-10-06 14:24:00 UTC Link to this

                  Just need to find some time when I'm not rushed off my feet.

      • Let's see... by Desdendelle on 2014-10-02 15:33:00 UTC Link to this

        I hate retcons. I'll edit the piece so Des will (mis)remember her name in another way.
        As to our agents meeting, I'm always up for co-writes. What are your fandoms? Specifically, do you do Harry Potter, Doctor Who or both?

        • Oh, did you mean my childhood? by SkarmorySilver on 2014-10-02 20:56:00 UTC Link to this

          I've read and seen pretty much *all* of the Harry Potter books and movies, so I know enough about that continuum that I'll be totally game for a mission there.

          As for both the collab and continuing SeaTurtle's interlude, though, it may be a bit of a while longer before I can jump into anything. Research is more important for me right now, objectively speaking, and we've still got my first mission to finish beta-reading. (That and I plan to write another mission as well before even thinking of any co-writes at all...)

          • Aha. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-02 21:09:00 UTC Link to this

            Well, my current DW x HP mission (temporary title "Misophist") is currently on hold as I and Firemagic are tackling something else right now. If/when you're free, do drop me a mail.
            Re: betaing your mission, I'm not sure which part I'm supposed to beta right now...

            • Re: Aha. by SkarmorySilver on 2014-10-02 23:08:00 UTC Link to this

              I've already finished up everything aside from the Post-Mission, which still hasn't been beta-read at all. And eatpraylove is currently helping me patch up any leftover glitches in the first two parts.

              And I'll e-mail you as soon as I get the important things in my life out of the way. I'd like for Agent!Des to actually meet Rashida in person sometime.

              • Re: Aha. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-02 23:39:00 UTC Link to this

                Would you kindly send me another email with the relevant bits? I'd appreciate it.

                • Done! (nm) by SkarmorySilver on 2014-10-02 23:47:00 UTC Link to this
    • To misquote Hugo Dyson... by Huinesoron on 2014-10-02 10:01:00 UTC Link to this

      ... "Oh God, not another Time Lord!"

      Sorry - Morgan insisted. ^_~

      Anyway. This is... difficult to read. It's not so much the swapping around of viewpoints and writing styles - you and SeaTurtle are close enough in style (or did you rework things?) that that slips by, and you carefully didn't spend much time in Deep Thoughts that would make the viewpoint swapping obvious. No, my main problem is that the Guardsman, in particular, breaks his speech over multiple paragraphs.

      I can see why. SeaTurtle's dialogue tends towards long speeches - that's not a problem, it's just one way of doing things - and those should be broken up. But because it started life as an RP, not every paragraph immediately identifies the speaker. Single example: 'He thought for a few seconds and cocked his head.' That starts a new paragraph, so is 'he' the previous speaker, or the person who could be replying to him? It makes the reading tricky, is what I'm trying to get across.

      Once you get past that - and it becomes a lot easier when there's four participants, since they tend to cut in on each other more frequently - it's an interesting story. It's always fun to see agents from different canons interact in a casual setting, and ask the questions they normally don't get to. Fun.

      (Oh, minor point: since Rashida has a new name, you might want to edit the 'something something Giza' section.)

      hS

      • Thanks for the feedback! by SeaTurtle on 2014-10-02 19:32:00 UTC Link to this

        I'll get down to fixing the Guardsman's ramblings as soon as possible. I completely forgot to fix the paragraphing!

        Glad to see that you enjoyed the story. To answer your question on style: all we did were some minor adjustments on speech flow and timing. That means our styles are naturally similar. Spooky!

  • World 1 Minis by AdmiralSakai on 2014-10-01 22:33:00 UTC Link to this

    Any ideas on what they might be?

    I'm particularly thinking of cases where the 'ficcer misspells the names of politicians or celebrities, but I suppose they could come from misspelled places or other proper names (like mythological/religious figures from actual World 1 cultures, or brand names).

    • Might I direct you to... by PoorCynic on 2014-10-02 02:36:00 UTC Link to this

      ...this Wiki page?

      PC

      • Re: Might I direct you to... by AdmiralSakai on 2014-10-02 17:59:00 UTC Link to this

        Huh. That's not accessible from the main Mini page, at least not by searching "World 1". Mind if I fix?

        • It's under Real World on the Mini page. (nm) by PoorCynic on 2014-10-04 18:48:00 UTC Link to this
  • (pluggery) What I've been up to... by Techno-Dann on 2014-10-02 04:02:00 UTC Link to this

    So, for those of you who don't know, I work for amazon.com. I started in the Tax Software department (which is about as exciting as you would imagine), until about a year and a half ago. I was approached by a manager I respect deeply to work on a new secret project that landed squarely in my interests - and he couldn't tell me anything more until I'd signed on the dotted line.

    Okay, so that last bit isn't exactly true. I knew what I was getting into, but I couldn't tell anyone else until we launched - which finally happened today!

    I give you the last year and a half's work: Write On by Kindle.

    Write On is a social space for reading and writing, especially around works in progress. While it's primarily for original work, fanfiction is cool too - we like writers and we like stories. The PPC itself is something I haven't even tried to discuss with the business people, let alone the lawyers, so it's probably a gray area, but I would love nothing more than to see a healthy dose of the spirit of the PPC show up in the Write On community.

    If you're looking for a space to write in, or a community to write with, please give Write On a poke - at the very least, I'd love to hear your thoughts on what we've built.

    • Seems cool! by Rats on 2014-10-05 03:00:00 UTC Link to this

      I'll definitely have to give it a look-see at some point.

    • I'm giving it a gander. by PoorCynic on 2014-10-04 18:45:00 UTC Link to this

      Definitely looks interesting. May very well have to post something there. Once, you know, I have something worth posting.

    • Interesting... by COG on 2014-10-02 06:17:00 UTC Link to this

      Oooooh...!
      This sounds/looks really interesting - deffiantly gonna poke around!

  • "I'm hoping to arrange something with HFA." by Neshomeh on 2014-10-02 20:32:00 UTC Link to this

    "Or, failing that . . . " she grinned humorlessly, "I could always throw my reputation to the wind and hop an alternate universe with him." She glanced down at her ankle, but apparently the Sue-tracker felt it had ruined her life enough for one evening. She clamped down on her train of thought before it went any further, though, just to be safe. Thoughts of her alternate universe were at once too tempting and too painful.

    Instead, she found a way to come to the point of what she wanted to say to Doc. She turned her head to look at him and kept her voice low, just between them. "Hey, speaking of 'that stupidity' . . . I hope this won't offend you, but I wanted to ask you to come see me for real sometime. You can think of it as a professional thing or just friendly chatting with tea, it's all the same to me. It's just that I don't think there was much in the way of closure for you here, and I don't like that."

    (( I love the hint-dropping game. ^_^ ))

    • Doc smailed thinly. by doctorlit on 2014-10-02 21:23:00 UTC Link to this

      "Ah. You are FicPsych then. I thought I heard you call yourself a nurse just now. And since you mentioned giving bit characters personalities, I figured you probably meant FicPsych."

      Doc faced forward again and walked on in silence for a few seconds. Up ahead, Vania had her hands on the back of her head, fingers linked and elbows sticking out to the sides. It was sort of weird for her to be keeping her distance like this, but Doc was too deep in thought to worry about it.

      Finally, he turned to Jenni and answered her. "I don't know. I . . . I kind of feel like I just want to go on reading and doing regular missions again, and try to forget HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ever happened. And— well, you got me to talk a lot, today, but most of the time, I'm not much for going out and socializing. Um. No offense. Against you, or your job, it's just . . ." Doc trailed off, avoiding Jenni's gaze.

      ((Come to think of it, I unconsciously dropped another hint in this very RP, in the meal Vania ordered! >.> But that's all I'll say.))

      • She wasn't surprised at being rejected. by Neshomeh on 2014-10-02 21:47:00 UTC Link to this

        It still stung, but that was a personal problem of hers; she believed him when he said it wasn't intended as a slight against her. "Well, it's up to you," she filled in the silence. "My door is always open if you change your mind—or if it isn't, just try again in half an hour to an hour." She cast him a sidelong smile, this being by way of a joke. The fact was that whoever was at the front desk would stop anyone getting to her office if she were already with someone else.

        • "Oh, yes, certainly." by doctorlit on 2014-10-03 02:32:00 UTC Link to this

          Doc didn't seem to have caught the humor in Jenni's voice. "Really, seriously, I appreciate that. If I'm ever feeling like I really need help again, you'll be the nurse I look for." Doc blushed a bit. He was being sincere, but worried he was saying it too bluntly to sound believable.

          • Of course, by Neshomeh on 2014-10-03 03:46:00 UTC Link to this

            Jenni wouldn't be much good in her line of work if she couldn't tell the difference between "sincere but awkward" and "bluntly lying," and what she'd gathered of Doc so far gave her no cause to suspect he'd give her the runaround. Unless further evidence turned up, she'd take him at his word, so she nodded and smiled. "Good. Just as long as you're okay for now." She gave him a light touch on the upper arm, trying to get him to meet her eyes.

            They rounded a corner, and the Nursery entrance came into view. Almost there, unless HQ decide to pull an infinite hallway trick or something on them.

            (( D'you feel like setting the scene with Miss MacKinnon and the kids? ))

            • ((Sure . . .)) by doctorlit on 2014-10-04 06:35:00 UTC Link to this

              ((I'll leave bringing Henry into the picture up to you, of course. Since I haven't written the kids much yet, their personalities may be a little shaky yet, just so you know.

              Also, in the chronologically next interlude I should write (not to be confused with the one I'm actually currently writing), I was going to have my agents give Miss MacKinnon their mini-Hound of the Baskervilles, which is now permanently pink due to Poison Joke exposure. Just so you know where the pink dog is coming from. :) ))

              Doc got distracted when he saw Vania just inside the Nursery doorway, rolling on the ground with something bright and pink.

              Her voice, spoken with a higher pitch than usual, carried out into the hallway. "Who's a pink puppy? Yes! You are the pinkest puppy! Good . . . um . . . I don't know your sex 'cause you're named after an apartment building, but you're a good something! Yes!"

              The mini stopped playing with Vania to regard Doc and Jenni with its baleful, droopy-looking eyes.

              "Oops!" said Vania. "We're blocking the doorway, puppy!" She got up to allow the other two agents access.

              Inside, the Nursery's walls were their usual self: brightly colored wallpaper dirtied near ground level by smudges, crayon marks, hand prints and smears of food. The Nursery's foyer was a lot more open than most department entrances. The secretary's desk was off to one side, and the walls around the foyer had wide arches leading to the various sections: daycare, living quarters, classrooms, etc.

              Standing a bit behind Vania and 221b baker street was Miss MacKinnon, in her pale pink dress. "And there's Doc," she said. "And Nurse Robinson, too! Welcome back, everyone!" Her grey hair done up in a bun made her look old, but whenever she talked, her clear voice showed how young she really was.

              ((I think that's enough new stuff for one post, so I'll probably hold off on introducing Ollie and Millie for this one.

              I've made up a bit of geography, here. I don't think it contradicts anything previous, but I'll fix it in the final if it does.))

              • (( Heh. )) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-05 18:39:00 UTC Link to this

                Jenni looked down with bemusement at the pink hound. "Well, I bet the kids just love you!" she said. Then, in response to Miss MacKinnon, "Hello! I'm here for Henry, and these two are here to visit . . . ?" She glanced between Doc and Vania.

                (( I hereby dub 221b baker street Tutu for short. Obviously you can take it or leave it, but it seems to fit. *g*

                Short post is short. ))

                • ((Well now you've gone and made it canon.)) by doctorlit on 2014-10-06 07:21:00 UTC Link to this

                  ((Also, I literally just now decided to rename Millie "Mollie" just to avoid another potential Zerenze situation. >_> "I'm soooooo changeable!"))

                  "Oh, yes," said Miss MacKinnon, smiling. "It's quite popular with all the age groups. Its full name is rather cumbersome for the little ones, so we mostly call it Tutu."

                  Doc spoke up. "We, um. We wanted to check on Mollie and Ollie again, if they're free."

                  Miss MacKinnon brightened. "Ah, wonderful! They're out of classes now; they were playing around here just a bit ago. Oh, I think I hear them coming again?" She glanced towards the classroom archway, where children's voices could now be heard, along with an irregular tapping sound.

                  "Surrender the crown, Minnie!" called a boy's voice.

                  "Not a chance, Hook!" answered a girl.

                  A moment later, two African-American-looking kids appeared around the corner, mid-swordfight. Well, one of the swords was made of cardboard, and the other was a plastic paintbrush, but, well, imagination.

                  Ollie curled the fingers in his off hand into a crude hook shape. "Captain Hook will be takin' that crown for me personal treasure chest, mouse!" He then made an awkward lunge towards Mollie.

                  She blocked the cardboard blade with her brush. "This crown belongs to Mickey! I won't let you take it!"

                  Vania nodded sagely, then turned to the mini-Hound. "This is better than a lot of fics I've read," she confided. The mini gave a tongue-flopping smile and wagged its tail.

                  "Children!" Miss MacKinnon called. "I'm sorry to interrupt, but you have some visitors!"

                  The kids stopped in mid-swing and glanced over, then gave big, toothy smiles—Ollie had a gap in his teeth that hadn't been there the last time Doc and Vania had seen them. "It's the guys!" he yelled.

                  "And some other lady!" Mollie added, quickly shoving the paintbrush into a pocket. They both rushed over to the agents.

                  Vania was already on her knees from playing with the mini, and Ollie ran straight into her arms. "Hey, kiddo!" she said as they hugged.

                  Mollie was heading for Doc, but slowed and finally . . . just . . . stopped. They looked at each other.

                  "Hi," said Doc, giving a little wave.

                  "Hey," said Mollie, returning it.

                  Vania glanced back and forth between them a few times. "Hey!" she said loudly and gesturing to the new face. "This is Jenni! Uh." She held up a finger. "Nurse Jenni."

                  (("Nurse Jenni" because I'm pretty sure my agents haven't heard her last name yet? I had to turn off my in-brain wiki to avoid saying "Robinson" there.

                  Oh, man. Writing this, it occurred to me I need to design outfits for the kids. My favorite thing. '~'

                  And, yeah, I decided a while ago to make the kids black, as the fic never gave them a skin color, and uh. So. DIVERSITY.

                  Also, I apologize if my writing voice sounds off, because I'm coming off two twelve-hour shifts in a row, and I get loopy as heck when I'm sleep deprived. Look forward to greater coherency in future posts.))

                  • (( Yay, I'm influential! )) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-07 23:04:00 UTC Link to this

                    Jenni, who had watched the kids' play with a big grin, gave them a wave and a bright "Hello!" She continued, "I'm Henry's mom. You might not know Henry, though—he's littler than you. I've been getting to know Vania and Doc this evening, though. You've got a couple of good friends in them." She looked particularly at Doc here, hoping to ease some of the obvious tension between him and Mollie.

                    (( Zerenze situation? Not sure what that means. Also, not to be difficult, but there's Molly the ferret to consider.

                    Ooh, ooh, I will totally TekTek the kids up for you if you want. Any excuse to play with it. ^_^

                    Speaking of busy... I am, for the foreseeable future. As you may have noticed already, my posting may be pretty erratic for a while. I'll let you know if anything drastic happens, though, so don't worry if I'm silent for a while, especially on weekends. {= ) ))

                    • ((Also:)) by doctorlit on 2014-10-11 04:58:00 UTC Link to this

                      ((Sorry for the confusion about Oracle's name on the wiki. Other than Ginger having a foreword to that story about the Lounge, I didn't find any obvious connection between Oracle and Lhachel. (Although this does explain the "Ori" Reria says will resurrect her if she dies.)

                      I was about to upload Reria's journal, but then I realized I should ask if you want to do it on Lost Tales instead, since Oracle was your friend. It's not very content-heavy, to be honest, beyond a lighthearted role play between Oracle and "WillaC2" (Dez and Gon's author), but we ought to have it somewhere. So, want me to send it over?))

                      • (( NP. )) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-13 03:38:00 UTC Link to this

                        I don't mean to imply any criticism when I make corrections like that. I don't expect people to know what names were used by random Boarders they've never talked to, but I figure I should fill in what I know when it comes up.

                        On that subject, WillaC2's Board name was Dragonlet. (I think the long form was DragonletJewel, but I don't remember if she wrote it exactly like that or with a space or an underscore or something.) She's one of the signatories of the original Constitution. {= )

                        Here, have some helpful deviantART accounts! Lhachel - Dragonlet - Blayzy (aka AuthorBlayze or just Blayze)

                        You should go ahead and host the journal stuff, I think. Some division of labor between story stuff and journal stuff seems like a smart strategy to me.

                        ~Neshomeh

                        • ((Thanks for the info!)) by doctorlit on 2014-10-14 21:54:00 UTC Link to this

                          ((It takes a while, but I'm slowly piecing things together. Turns out Reria's journal wasn't deleted after all; I just lost the link.

                          Do you mind if I ask, is this Author Blayze the author of Sanguine, Lupeias and Nosferatu? I'm having trouble figuring that out.

                          Also, I don't know if you knew "Agent Twain" (the author of Agent Twain), but I wanted to share: she's a published author now! I didn't want to plug this on the main Board because, unlike Kippur, Twain doesn't have her PPC name attached directly to her works. But I figured it would be safe to show you, down in this little RP hole we've dug into Ozerboard.))

                          • (( Yep, that's Blayze. )) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-17 03:12:00 UTC Link to this

                            He had a whole host of characters, including those three plus Nazaruth (Nosferatu's partner at some point), Kip, and Beofre (who actually got her name during a chat I was in).

                            Ori and Hawky had a bunch of side-characters, too... some of them are on the List of RCs. I'm not quite sure what to do about that at the moment.

                            I sometimes think about posting the logs I still have from back then, but there's a lot missing, so they wouldn't make much sense, and they're a little embarrassing. Lots of angst and drama with canon characters involved. Couldn't quite get away with that sort of silliness today. ^_^;

                            I didn't know Twain, but that is super cool! I'll have to see about picking those up.

                            ~Neshomeh, who will reply to the actual RP at some point, she swears.

                            • ((Aw, but surely by doctorlit on 2014-10-18 15:51:00 UTC Link to this

                              a little embarrassment would be worth showing us ignorant newbies what it was like in the good old days? *pout* ))

                              • (( Okay, ya talked me into it. )) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-28 03:33:00 UTC Link to this

                                And you got me talking to Blayze, Hawky, and Ori again, too, cuz I needed them to sign off on it, so congratulations. ^_^

                                It Came from the Lounge!

                                I'd rather you didn't go linking to things, at least not for a while—it's still a work-in-progress, since I've only added what I've got up to the end of 2006 and I'm sure the navigation and stuff still needs tweaking. I really, really wish I had more... there are so many holes, and some of the best stuff is lost. {= ( But, you can kind of get an idea of some of what's not there based on later conversations—and more if you go looking back through our dA accounts, because we all drew a lot of Lounge pictures—so it's not a total loss. Enjoy the craziness!

                                Oh, and FYI, Nueva Paz is a Real Life friend of mine I dragged in, Nightsail is someone I know from a Farscape fansite way back in the day, and Phoenix is a friend of hers that she dragged in from other RPs. *g*

                                ~Neshomeh

                                • ((Yay! *clapping*)) by doctorlit on 2014-10-28 04:46:00 UTC Link to this

                                  No worries; I'll leave the linking to you. Thanks so much for sharing! And I'm glad you got to talk to your old friends again, too.

                    • Doc glanced at Jenni, then back to the kids. "Right." by doctorlit on 2014-10-08 18:04:00 UTC Link to this

                      He got got down on his knees. "Guys?"

                      Vania scooted Ollie over to her partner with an arm to his back. Mollie saw Ollie coming over, and walked with him to get closer to Doc.

                      Doc took a couple of steady breaths, forced himself to look in Mollie's eyes, then spoke. "Kids. I want . . . I know the last time we saw each other, I said I was sorry. But . . . I want you to know that I'm sorry, not just hear me say it, and then see me disappear from your lives." He glanced briefly at Vania, then turned back to the kids. "I—Vania and I are going to make sure to take the time to be your friends. We'll come see you, we'll . . . check on you . . ."

                      Realizing that Doc's reserve of social energy was getting sapped pretty hard tonight, Vania stepped in. "Yep, check on your grades, make sure you're eating well, introduce you to all the good canons! We'll be like those irritating relatives from across the country who never shut up when they call!"

                      Doc picked up on Vania's energy. "And eventually, when you're ready, we'd love to be the ones to take you on your official training mission."

                      The kids were smiling big now. "Awesome!" yelled Ollie, jumping and pumping his fist in the air.

                      "Yeah!" Mollie said. "I know we'll be great agents, with you guys helping us!"

                      The kids jumped forward and each hugged an agent, and somehow, it morphed into a group hug. The mini-Hound tried to join in, flopping into the groove between its two former partners' backs.

                      "This is excellent," said Miss MacKinnon, who very suddenly had a stack of adoption papers in her hands. "And we can make it official if you just fill out—"

                      "No!" said the Floaters in perfect unison, twisting their heads out of the hug at a bizarre angle to glare at her.

                      ((Zerenze was a character Herr Wozzeck recruited without changing the name. The original author somehow caught wind of the PPC and confronted Wozz over it. Ultimately, nothing came of it, but to be on the safe side, I would rather avoid the potential for drama altogether.

                      I don't think there will be much confusion between the two Moll-s. They're spelled differently, and my Moll- doesn't tend to bite so much. :)

                      I appreciate the offer, but I feel like I should spend the time to work on my own characters' designs. Physical description is always the most difficult part for me, because it's the least interesting in my mind. So I need to get better at that.

                      And no worries. My weekends turned into doubles this month, so writing then is difficult for me, too.))

                      • Jenni watched... by Neshomeh on 2014-10-23 21:53:00 UTC Link to this

                        Jenni watched the scene with a little pride in herself for having helped bring it about, but more in Doc and Vania—especially Doc, for finding the strength to right his wrongs. ... Which felt a little grandiose even in her head, but still. Not everyone bothered to face up to things like that, and it was nice to see.

                        At the agents' reaction to Miss MacKinnon, she had to chuckle. The woman was getting a reputation for being pushy about getting kids formally adopted, which Jenni supported wholeheartedly. And that reminded her. "Speaking of adoption, how's Ian? Any takers yet?"

                        Ian was a boy about Henry's age whom Ilraen had brought back from a mission. Ilraen wasn't in much of a position to be a child's guardian, no one could argue with that, so Jenni had taken an interest. She wasn't sure she could really support two kids—not without a significantly larger response center, to start with—but she could at least try to keep an eye on him in a "Mrs. Henry's Mom" sort of capacity.

                        (( The answer to the question is "no," more's the pity. Background on Ian if you want it: Rescue(1) (2) and last year's Halloween RP, particularly the exchange between me and PoorCynic descending from that Nursery post.

                        I really have no idea how to get from here to Henry. >.< ))

                        • Miss MacKinnon frowned and shook her head. by doctorlit on 2014-10-24 01:53:00 UTC Link to this

                          "I'm sorry to say, children from better-known continua are far more likely to be adopted than kids from rare fandoms." She held out her arms in a wide shrug. "You know, I don't . . . I know not every child here will be adopted. Even if every agent team rescued only one child in their career, I know they still wouldn't all get parents. Too many agents have difficulty keeping themselves sane.

                          "Still, I try to adopt out whenever I can. I come from a very dark society, and if there's one thing I can thank my author for, it's giving me a sense of respect and caring for others that I wouldn't have had if I had simply been canon. That love of children is a part of me now, and that is something I can be proud of, something I can use to be the best caretaker I can."

                          Miss MacKinnon glanced around at the people watching her. The two kids looked most awkward at all, exchanging glances with wrinkled mouths. Doc and Vania smiled politely, Vania nodding encouragingly.

                          The woman coughed. "Well, then," she said as the regular secretary arrived. "I believe we were going to visit the daycare?"

                          ((Huh. Random MacKinnon monologue. It just kind of came to me, although I don't know how well it fits. *shrug*

                          Actually, would you prefer to take over MacKinnon for a while? I've already got four characters without her, and otherwise you'll only have one until we reach the daycare.))

  • Help Needed: Charge List by Dark Brother 16 on 2014-10-02 22:32:00 UTC Link to this

    I am working on my "PerMission", and I'm starting to get near to the end of the planning stage. But first, I need to finish my Charge List. I have almost everything I need, but I'm having trouble finding very many problems with the spelling and grammar. I have a few, but I feel like I need to find more. (Of course, if there are no more, that's fine, too.)

    So can anybody help me? Here is the link to the story.

    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5988885/1/The_Daughters_Tale

    • Hrm. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-03 00:23:00 UTC Link to this

      Not all missions need to be DTE-esque SPaG trainwrecks. Badfics can have decent SPaG and still be badfics.

    • Also... by Dark Brother 16 on 2014-10-03 00:07:00 UTC Link to this

      ... How many Charges are needed at minimum?

      • Quantity is not as important as quality. by Neshomeh on 2014-10-03 00:17:00 UTC Link to this

        For a minimum, I'd say consult the Original Series. Charge lists on average have become rather longer since then. However, the point of a charge list is to establish that an OC is a Mary Sue and/or that the canon has been broken. You could rack up a million SPaG errors and still not accomplish that. Also, charging for the same problem (e.g. bad spelling) more than once is unnecessary and will just result in a wall o'text that no one will want to read.

        See Also:

        Charge
        Charge List
        Mission Writing Guide: "Okay, So You've Found a Badfic. Now What?"

        ~Neshomeh

        • Thanks (nm) by Dark Brother 16 on 2014-10-03 00:41:00 UTC Link to this
    • List of charges you already have? (nm) by AdmiralSakai on 2014-10-03 00:05:00 UTC Link to this
      • Charges by Dark Brother 16 on 2014-10-03 00:38:00 UTC Link to this

        So far, I have these. (This list is not limited to Grammar and Spelling.)

        - Notably, there are several mentions of a "her", despite this story being in the First Person.

        - The Main Original Character has a double-bladed Sword of Sueness, a Cute Animal Companion Horse, is the (human) daughter of Aslan and the granddaughter of Professor Diggory, and falls in love with Peter Pevensie.

        - The following characters are brought out of character; The Professor is never supposed to be married to begin with, and even if he was, he would most likely not allow his daughter run away to Narnia- meaning, he would not be the kind of person to give her a reason to run; Peter never falls in love as far as we know, and most certainly, not very easily, if he did; Aslan is supposed to be the Narnia's version of Jesus, or God, or whatever, and he is portrayed as ignorant in a few cases, and his powers are greatly diminished as a result; Jadis is portrayed as a more dramatically evil character, as opposed to the stuck-up, cold and calculating villain she is supposed to be.

        - Additionally, the Mary Sue has a problem with unnatural, sometimes forced dialog that really grinds my gears personally, and will likely irritate one of my Agents, and this Sue never learns any lessons, or has her character developed in any way, positively or negatively.

        So far, those are all that I found.

        • Looks like you've got a pretty good sampling. by AdmiralSakai on 2014-10-06 13:41:00 UTC Link to this

          I don't think you have every single instance of any one thing, but the important part is that I don't think you missed the author doing anything NEW.

  • Christmas Prompt Exchange by KittyEden on 2014-10-03 06:43:00 UTC Link to this

    Hello, PPC-ians! For Christmas this year, I am giving the extravagant gift of... storytelling!
    Okay, I suppose that it’s a bit early for Christmas. But I’m getting this started early, so you guys have plenty of time to write.
    Yes, that’s right. I’m hosting a prompt exchange. If you’ve never done one before, this is how it works!
    1. You head to the Prompt Exchange Form, which has been created on Google Drive. It’s availible here- http://goo.gl/forms/8lOaT0OVPd
    2. Complete the questions, and type in a prompt that you’d like someone to write a short story based on.
    3. Click Submit!
    4. On November 1st, you will be sent an email with the prompt that you need to write. Even if it seems too difficult, just try it!
    5. Send the completed story (minimum 1500 words) to thebiggeniusrocks@gmail.com by December 20th.
    6. On Christmas, I will OPEN THE PRESENT BOX. That is to say, I will post a list of everyone’s stories and who requested them.

    A couple of ground rules. First, please don’t write fanfiction. These stories are all supposed to be original.
    Keep the ratings down, people! No erotica. All genres allowed, but if a prompt makes you snort out loud, it’s pretty much a given that it’s supposed to be humor. This is the PPC, after all.
    You won’t find out who gave you the prompt, or who got your prompt until the release of all the stories on Christmas.
    Any questions? Easy! Just ask me on the thread.

    Lotsa love,

    Kitty

    • Um. Hmm. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-07 15:29:00 UTC Link to this

      I have a problem. You're asking for prompts, but I usually think of a prompt as being as short as possible: witness the Monthlyish Challenge, where the prompt is two whole words. They're an idea which people can read wildly differently.

      Given the four-sentence-minimum requirement, I'd class what you're asking for here as outlines - a fully-fledged story idea, basically just needing fleshing out and writing. In other words, it's 'I've got a great idea for a story, but I don't have the time/energy/skill/knowledge to write it'.

      And, uh... my problem is that I can't think of those. Or rather, if I can come up with a four-sentence outline, I can also come up with a two-page outline, and plan to write the story. I don't particularly have stories of the 'want to write but can't (be bothered)' variety in my head, or not in any detail.

      What I'm saying is, I'd love to participate - but I can't think of anything. If I come up with something, I'll add it.

      (And how many words did I use to say that? Shh, that's how many. Here's an extra .023: .)

      hS

      • To be fair by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-09 23:12:00 UTC Link to this

        I just type prompts into google, loked at a reddit page (briefly) with prompts and then found a list of them on Writersdigest.com and kind of made mine up through mixing up those with my original five word prompts until I had roughly four sentences (more like 3 and a half, but hey)

    • Re: Christmas Prompt Exchange by november14 on 2014-10-06 03:54:00 UTC Link to this

      Do prompts have to be related to christmas?

      • Nope! by KittyEden on 2014-10-06 11:05:00 UTC Link to this

        Anything you want!

    • I'm in (nm) by Antigone68104 on 2014-10-04 19:47:00 UTC Link to this
    • I love this. by Rats on 2014-10-04 04:34:00 UTC Link to this

      Now I just have to think of a good prompt! Haha. . .
      Does the prompt have to include specific characters and happenstance, or can it just be something like "Space western with cool aliens and a planet"? Because I don't really have anything specific in mind, though I suppose I could come up with one if need be. Is general okay?

      • It can be as specific or general as you want. (nm) by KittyEden on 2014-10-04 05:28:00 UTC Link to this
        • Cool! Submitted! :) (nm) by Rats on 2014-10-05 02:58:00 UTC Link to this
    • I am doing this! by James Shields on 2014-10-03 18:35:00 UTC Link to this

      I need to start training my writing skills again. I haven't written anything for years. So I hope this will be a good start. I will be looking forward to it!

    • This...I'm going to do this. by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2014-10-03 16:46:00 UTC Link to this

      I need to write more, and I've been gradually going into lurker-mode here, what better way to get more involved with the community? I can't wait!

      -Aila

    • What a cool idea. {= ) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-03 16:19:00 UTC Link to this

      Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have time to participate in this on top of holiday-season craziness and all the other stuff I'm trying to write, but I look forward to seeing what everyone else does. Maybe next year!

      ~Neshomeh

    • Can I just check? by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-03 15:47:00 UTC Link to this

      When you say original do you mean original using PPC characters or original using any OC's of yours whatsoever?

      Otherwise looking forward to it.

      • Original as in... by KittyEden on 2014-10-03 15:59:00 UTC Link to this

        ...using your OCs.

        • Cool, thanks (nm) by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-03 17:44:00 UTC Link to this
    • This is a great idea by EileenAlphabet on 2014-10-03 11:05:00 UTC Link to this

      I have a suggestion. November is also NaNoWriMo. Would it be possible to tweak the dates so everyone gets their prompts, say, a week before November 1. so people doing NaNo can finish them before the madness starts?
      If not, it's no big deal. 20 days of December is still time enough to write a story. I just think it would be a great pre-NaNo warm-up.

      • What...? by COG on 2014-10-03 11:18:00 UTC Link to this

        What is NaNoWriMo...?

        • Awesome, is what it is by EileenAlphabet on 2014-10-03 11:40:00 UTC Link to this

          NaNoWriMo is short for National (it's actually international, but never mind that) Novel Writing Month. You write a novel (50.000) words in a month. It it all kinds of fun and exhausting and there's usually a good deal of PPC'ers participating. You can read more and sign up on their website (for free). http://nanowrimo.org/

          • *Fifty thousand words by Neshomeh on 2014-10-03 16:22:00 UTC Link to this

            I think for most of us "50.000" would just be fifty. "50,000" is fifty thousand. I know it's different in some parts of the world, though. When in doubt, spell it out. {= )

            ~Neshomeh

            • Right. And thanks. :) (nm) by EileenAlphabet on 2014-10-04 09:35:00 UTC Link to this
            • But, but, precision! by Huinesoron on 2014-10-03 16:27:00 UTC Link to this

              What if I want to write 50,000.023 words? What then, Mrs Smart Alec?

              hS

              • Show me precisely .023 of a word and we'll talk. {; P (nm) by Neshomeh on 2014-10-03 17:19:00 UTC Link to this
                • No problem: by Huinesoron on 2014-10-03 21:02:00 UTC Link to this

                  .

                  That's the dot over the eye in 'intangibles'. It contains four pixels (if you paste it into Notepad, or the Board's entry box). At an average of 16 pixels per letter, 'intangibles' contains roughly 176 pixels. To three decimal places, 4 pixels are 0.023 of that total.

                  So what are we talking about, again?

                  hS

                  • ... by KittyEden on 2014-10-05 11:35:00 UTC Link to this

                    ...you have waaaayy too much spare time on your hands.

                    • No, he doesn't. by JulyFlame on 2014-10-06 03:22:00 UTC Link to this

                      He's just extremely efficient.

                  • I believe... by Neshomeh on 2014-10-04 16:57:00 UTC Link to this

                    We were discussing you writing a story containing 50,000.023 words. Since you've proven it can be done, I now expect to see this story at some point. *g*

                    ~Neshomeh

    • Nervous person is nervous by COG on 2014-10-03 10:23:00 UTC Link to this

      Title says I'm nervous, I am, but I'm willing too give it a go.

      Whelp, here I go~ //rolls over too Google Drive thingy~//

      • For some reason, it's not showing up. by KittyEden on 2014-10-04 03:56:00 UTC Link to this

        You might want to submit again. :-)

        • .-. by COG on 2014-10-04 06:25:00 UTC Link to this

          Is it for everyone?

          • Just you, sorry. (nm) by KittyEden on 2014-10-04 09:34:00 UTC Link to this
  • The Naming of Sues. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-03 10:38:00 UTC Link to this

    With heartfelt apology to T.S. Elliot.

    The Naming of Sues is a difficult business,
    It isn't just one of your holiday games;
    For every Sue, whether Miss, Ms, or Mrs,
    Must have not one, not two, but THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.

    First of all, there's the name she purports to be known by,
    Such as Star Princess Moona, or Ithily Trace,
    Such as Sparkles of Widewood, or Lucy Ann Angstfly--
    The nonsense they make up for all of their days.
    Familiar names they will warp with abandon,
    Like Harriet Potter, or Mabel Greenleaf,
    And other names twisted and altered from canon:
    These are the names which they use to give grief.

    But I tell you, a Sue needs a name that is easier,
    A nickname for canons she likes to adopt,
    Else how can they prove they're the ones who adore her,
    And follow her round before they can be stopped?
    Now names of this kind all have something in common,
    Whether Ellie or Marcie or Anya or Ka,
    Or Yulie or Oma or -- well, I could go on;
    See how close to the names of their authors they are!

    But above and beyond there's still one name left over,
    And that is the name that you've known from the start;
    The name that's a label for all to discover,
    The name that we give to her right from the heart:
    For if you see a Sue in a fanfic or story,
    You know her by what she is certain to do:
    She'll torture the world, make it sing to her glory,
    For her third name is simple: she is Mary Sue.
    She's ineffable, effable,
    Effanineffable,
    Shallow and boring cliche: Mary Sue.

    ~hS

    • Encore! (nm) by november14 on 2014-10-11 12:43:00 UTC Link to this
    • Um... Is this based off 'The Naming of Cats'? by Iximaz on 2014-10-03 23:40:00 UTC Link to this

      Because it made me laugh. Very brilliantly parodied!

    • Beautiful. (nm) by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2014-10-03 16:43:00 UTC Link to this
    • Add that one to the Songbook! (nm) by eatpraylove on 2014-10-03 15:46:00 UTC Link to this
    • Ohohoho. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-03 14:21:00 UTC Link to this

      Quite amusing. It reads like a song, too. I don't think the late Mr Eliot would mind.

    • Ooh! by KittyEden on 2014-10-03 11:28:00 UTC Link to this

      I loved Cats.
      How about...

      Sparkly Sues, come out tonight,
      Sparklees come to the HP Yule Ball!

      ...no? Oh, fine.

      ~Kitty

      • Prepare by doctorlit on 2014-10-03 15:14:00 UTC Link to this

        to fall in love.

        • I love Ekwy's stuff! by KittyEden on 2014-10-03 15:48:00 UTC Link to this

          PPC- the Musical was the first spin-off I ever read. It's still my favorite. We should do a live version of it at the next Gathering! It'd be fun. I'd love to write the script.
          Or we could just sing through the songs in public. And watch people stare. I do it all the time. I accidently sang 'Agents' instead of 'All Stars' once. I got some pretty weird looks, can I tell you. And I do 'Going Through the Fanfics' and 'Song of Suvians' all the time.
          But the 'Sues'thing is new one. I'm off to go read it!

          ~Kitty, who is indeed in LOVE. «3

    • I like this! by EileenAlphabet on 2014-10-03 10:52:00 UTC Link to this

      *throws computer on floor* Another!

  • Question about permission. by november14 on 2014-10-03 15:31:00 UTC Link to this

    On the permission page on the wiki, it is said that agents should not be overpowered, but does not specify what is considered overpowered. Are SotINF Awakened, Elders, or other's with auric powers allowed? They're almost as powerful as Nanoha mages...

    • The key part is 'over'. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-03 15:55:00 UTC Link to this

      Put simply: do not make your agents Suvians.

      The world of the PPC is one where agents - moderately regular folk, just out to get their job done, wipe out evil, and hopefully avoid going flamethrower-crazy - struggle through badfics, and ultimately perform The Duty with some difficulty. They're at a disadvantage - basically everyone they have to face down is in some way more powerful than them, whether it be a canon character they have to keep from getting killed by while their partner sets up an exorcism, or a Suvian they have to fight or even just catch.

      If your agent has an easy time of their missions, you're doing it wrong. If you find yourself giving them powers or weapons because you 'need' them to take down the misplaced flora and fauna you're planning to send them against, you're doing it wrong. If, in fact, you're planning on giving them a power without consequences, a bonus without a downside, a plus without a minus - you're probably doing it wrong.

      hS

  • Badfics! by Tigeress on 2014-10-03 17:10:00 UTC Link to this

    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7362758/2/Doctor-Hoo

    It's bad. But, I'm pretty sure it's a trollfic... But you'll laugh. So...

    http://www.quotev.com/story/4414635/The-Girl-Whom-Time-Forgot-Eleventh-Doctor-Fanfiction/37/

    • Here's a lovely one I found... by Thantosiet on 2014-10-06 12:53:00 UTC Link to this

      https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3662190/1/Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-Into-the-Past

      Not enough for this badficcer to create a Sue sister for Elizabeth who is, of course, also a pirate, but they had to jump into InuYasha as well. Prophecies, people turning out to be dragons--and by "people" I mean the Sue and her buddies...

    • In that case... by Dark Brother 16 on 2014-10-05 23:37:00 UTC Link to this

      Hey, troll fics are fine by me. They allow me to sharpen my "epic skilz" (misspelling intended).

    • I get the feeling this is a general badfic thread? by SkarmorySilver on 2014-10-04 03:57:00 UTC Link to this

      If so, I'd like to take the time to bring up this ugly thing.

      The reason I know of this... ABOMINATION is because it's got its own TV Tropes entry, which is how I stumbled upon it a few years ago. Here's the summary of said entry, which really speaks for itself:

      "After venturing into a cave and getting a gold tube that grants him the power of flight, Indiana Jones finds his dad Dr. Jones and takes him flying... but then Dr. Jones has a shocking admission: He was sent from the future to kill Indy. Needless to say, Indy doesn't handle this too well, and Dr. Jones sends him into the future... first to the World Trade Center on September 11 (yes, THAT September 11), and then to the year 2008. Indy is distraught by the fact that his "history is now history", but then he meets a "really cool kid" named Andy who offers to help him get back to his time period. Meanwhile, Dr. Jones is plotting to take over the world, and he does so by running for "overlord of the world" by eating Barack Obama and John McCain.
      And that's just the beginning of the sheer insanity on display.
      Quite possibly the most insane and surreal Indiana Jones fanfiction ever written, the story is full of spelling errors, characters acting out of character, and generally makes no sense whatsoever."

      You know, I wonder if I can claim this one. Not to sound masochistic and all, but I've... got some plans for it ;)

    • Do any of you consider these to be badfics? by 7.65x54R on 2014-10-04 01:55:00 UTC Link to this

      I might be wrong, but I found two fics on FF.net that might qualify.

      https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7775173/1/Empty-Cradles

      this one involves SasuIta paedoincest. bear in mind that Itachi is 13 at the time of this and Sasuke is 8.

      https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8349097/1/Burn

      if you thought the above was disgusting, what about SasuIta necro-incest gayporn? yeah, I get it.

      • Well... by Desdendelle on 2014-10-04 03:38:00 UTC Link to this

        Paedoshit is paedoshit. Incest is incest. Necro... ew. All three of them: ew. By the premise alone I can tell those two aren't exactly masterpieces.

        • Language. (nm) by JulyFlame on 2014-10-08 03:39:00 UTC Link to this
          • Oops. Sorry. (nm) by Desdendelle on 2014-10-08 04:47:00 UTC Link to this
  • Response Centers by Dark Brother 16 on 2014-10-03 23:54:00 UTC Link to this

    I would like to claim a some numbers for my agents' RC's. 25, 85, 115 and 90 (for a more minor pair of characters I had mentioned at one point).

    Also, I have a question about RC's in general. Which ones are considered the messiest?

    • As Iximaz noted... by Desdendelle on 2014-10-04 01:52:00 UTC Link to this

      You can't claim an RC number until you get Permission. Also, what counts as a messy RC varies with the person, in my opinion; for example, Eamon and Barid's doesn't rank high in my list (as opposed to Iximaz).

    • I'd suggest claiming only one RC number... by Iximaz on 2014-10-04 00:15:00 UTC Link to this

      ...since you'll be working with just one pair of agents for some time.

      And technically, I don't think you can 'officially' claim RC numbers until you get Permission, but requests are usually honored from what I've seen.

      As for 'messiest'... what exactly do you mean? I'm sure there are plenty of agents whose RCs look like a tornado hit, but there are varying degrees of messiness. (Phobos' pairing of Barid and Eamon comes to mind since the room is half pigsty and half orderly.)

  • just plain wrong by november14 on 2014-10-04 14:57:00 UTC Link to this

    Has anyone ever seen a fic that makes you wish the author wasn't anonymous and was in jail?

    • Let me stop you right there. by PoorCynic on 2014-10-04 18:42:00 UTC Link to this

      I can't see this thread being anything more than a way to bash badfic authors. That's not what the PPC is about. At all. Period. Let me point out this snippet from the Mission Writing Guide:

      Sporking is NEVER about the fic's AUTHOR. This point cannot be emphasised enough. Authors of a badfic are not equal to the badfic. Moaning and complaining about the badfic should never turn into insulting the author. It's rude, it's cruel, and it's created far too many dramas already. Leave authors out of it.

      PC

      • Sorry (nm) by november14 on 2014-10-05 04:59:00 UTC Link to this
  • I LIVE! by World-Jumper on 2014-10-05 07:29:00 UTC Link to this

    ...Sorta. First, let me apologize about my absence. I have been very busy working on the Mark Begich campaign up here in Alaska. I know most of you probably have not heard of it, but it is one of the most important elections in the U.S. right now. I can get into why, if anybody is interested, but for now, just know that is a very close race, that requires all of the attention and work I can give. So that is where I have been, and will be until November 4th.

    Secondly, how has it been going? I have not been here for a long time! Anything interesting happen over here? I need the scoop!

    Finally, to Iximaz, another apology. I have completely ignored that crossover for months. Granted, I have been busy, but that's no excuse. I should have had something in by now. However, I promise, November 6th, you will have my section of the crossover mission. You have my word.

    • Welcome back! by eatpraylove on 2014-10-06 16:36:00 UTC Link to this

      Like Iximaz said, we've been getting a fair amount of newbies lately: June Blue Knight, Combat of Giants, Lunar Dusk...Another newbie, SkarmorySilver, got Permission, and Desdendelle and I have been beta reading his first mission. (Quite fun.) There's a Rudi's RP thread on the Other Board that's probably still open, we kicked out a troll back in May (long story), somebody started a camping trip thread, and way more cool things happened than I can shake a ten-foot pole at. (LOL, mixed metaphor.)

      You're working on a campaign? That sounds pretty stressful, but also exciting. Who's Mark Begich and why is his campaign super-duper important?

      • Thanks. by World-Jumper on 2014-10-06 18:25:00 UTC Link to this

        Man, it has been a while. So many things happening. I even missed the Badfic Games! Oh well, not like I had anything for it anyway.

        So, since you asked, I shall deliver. Mark Begich is a U.S. senator from Alaska. He is a democrat from a largely republican state (though Libertarian would probably fit the state better), and is now fighting to keep his seat from the republican Dan Sullivan. Sullivan is nothing but a tool for the republican party and the Koch Brothers,who have been throwing millions his way. Now, Alaska, being one of the smallest states in the union, is ignored by most. However, the republican party sees an opportunity to take the senate back, and Alaska is the front line state. Many political analysts have said that which ever way Alaska goes, so goes the nation. In many ways, if Begich looses, the Democrats loose the senate, and Alaska a tremendous voice. He is on the appropritions committee, chairman of the sub-committee of fisheries, and has brought over $1,000,000,000 for transportation. I could go on about him, and why it is important he wins, but I think that will suffice for now. Keep in mind though, that while the Nation is liable to be changed here, I really am fighting for local interests.

        • -Chuckles- by Desdendelle on 2014-10-06 18:35:00 UTC Link to this

          And I thought our politics were tense...
          Also, welcome back and stuff! Have a cup of tea and assorted scones and jam!

    • Welcome back! (nm) by the Irish Samurai on 2014-10-06 14:28:00 UTC Link to this
    • Let me bring out the confetti and bunga manggars. by darklordaakmal on 2014-10-06 10:06:00 UTC Link to this

      Iximaz, mind spreading out the confetti for us? Mr World-Jumper, please walk to my left. I'm holding up a bunga manggar.

      Now all we need are another bunga manggar holder, some people to play the kompangs or any drum-type instruments, and a few dancers to dance.

      WELCOME BACK, LONG-TRAVELLING FRIEND!

      Also, the are a some prompts, badfic threads, and some warnings given to juniors of the Board. Business as usual, although I think you should go back a few pages and read the picnic that PPC held. Although I am not a prat of it, It's still an engaging read.

    • *flying tacklehug* by Iximaz on 2014-10-05 19:37:00 UTC Link to this

      OHMIGOSH OHMIGOSH OHMIGOSH OHMIGOSH OHMIGOSH OHMIGOSH I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE BAAAAAAACK!

      Lessee, there was the annual badfic festival, hS started a new series on FFN called PPC: Driftwood, there were a couple of newbies, Skarmory Silver got part of his/her (sorry, Skarm, I can't remember which one you prefer) first mission out, and I think that's about it.

      I'm glad to hear you're doing well- I was getting worried, but if I sent one email I'd start sending hundreds and I know you wouldn't appreciate that. ;) And ooh goody, November is just getting better by the minute!

  • Fifth Monthlyish PPC Writing Challenge: 'Precedent'. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-06 11:13:00 UTC Link to this

    Ahahahaha. 'Monthlyish'. For anyone just tuning in, the last 'Monthlyish' challenge was in September 2013. And the first one was in... well, I can't actually find it in the archives!. So here's the description from the first one, yet again:

    Here at the PPC we're very big on writing. We write missions, we rant about the bad writing in badfics, we even play games like Fill The Plothole, which consist of, yep, writing. But at no point do we all sit down and try to improve our writing together.

    So. The objective of the Monthly PPC Writing Challenge is to write a short story to a set theme, and then give useful, constructive criticism to other participants.


    Here are The Rules:

    -Write a (reasonably short) story in response to the Theme below, and post it on this thread. You may use a beta if you wish, but it is not required.
    -Give constructive criticism (at least one positive point, at least one negative with suggestions for improvement) to at least one other submission.
    -You may rewrite your story based on concrit you receive and repost it, but this is not required.
    -Obvious fact, but no flaming! This isn't like the Badfic Contest - the goal here is to write a good story and get feedback from the community.
    -You do not require Permission to participate in the Challenge. Neither do your agents need to be approved for you to use them.
    -However, nothing written for the Challenge is considered part of the PPC Canon unless you do have Permission, and explicitly claim it as canon.

    I think that covers it. Remember that both the writing and the giving of concrit are part of the challenge. (And no, there's no time limit - but there's not usually much point posting on a thread that's left the front page)

    And this month's Theme:

    Break precedent.

    (It might help to include a note at the end of your story of which precedent(s) you/your agents are breaking)

    And remember... have fun!

    hS

    • Aftermath by Hieronymus Graubart on 2014-10-11 22:53:00 UTC Link to this

      RC 1953 had been quite for a too long time, so it was no surprise when a blue portal popped into existence and a pair of black-robed figures stumbled out of it. One of them was a young woman with very long, very pointy ears. Her arms were clutched around the elder male's shoulders in an attempt to hold him upright in front of her. But it did not do much good. She could barely keep her balance when he fell to his knees and bent over, his hands pressed on his belly.

      The front of the man's cloak was soaked in glitter, and purple stains were all over his face and beard. He coughed and heaved, like he would vomit, but his already empty stomach had nothing to give up anymore. He cringed. A wilver knife fell to the floor.

      “On your knees again, Hieronymus?” asked the night elf in a mislead attempt to joke. “You know this is not necessary in front of me.” The man coughed and heaved even more. “Get up on your feet,” commanded the woman, “and out of this robes. Then wash your face and you will feel better, I promise.” Hieronymus shook his head. “Oh, well then. Let me get some facecloths and towels.”

      When she returned, her partner was still on his knees, his head bent and his gaze fixated on the stained knife. “Don't look at this thing!“ shouted Androia, carefully averting her eyes as she kicked the wilver knife into the space under the console. “I told you we should not keep it. Look at me!” But when she had dropped the towels onto the console, she had to grip the male's hair and pull his head back before she could start to clean his face with a wet flannel. Hieronymus appeared to be in a catatonic state.

      “You know,” said Androia, “this would be much easier if your face were less furry. Maybe I should get some scissors.” Hieronymus did not react at all. Androia looked really worried now. Deciding that, even if he did not object, removing the beard he was so proud of should only be a last resort, she continued to wipe and rub. “Next time you cut somebody's throat,” she scolded, “remember that you should not be in front of them. Although I must admit that approaching the Sue like you intended to confess your unending love was a brilliant move.”

      “Don't,” croaked Hieronymus.

      This was at least something. “Don't what?” asked Androia. But Hieronymus had fallen back into silence and shivering. His skin felt cold as ice, while his forehead, which she had just rubbed dry, covered with small drops of sweat. Get rid of the glitter, thought Androia, and keep him warm. She looked around frantically. Three steps to the bedroom's door behind Hieronymus' back. But the door was closed and she would not have a free hand to open it. Then there was the other possibility. Androia made a decision that appeared to be rational, shoved her hands under his axles, and pulled him up and forwards to the pile of blankets in the far corner of the RC. Having arrived, she unbuttoned his robes and, without further ado, pulled it down, just in time before she could not longer stand his weight.

      Hieronymus eyes widened in alarm when he was dropped on the blankets. “But – that's your bed,” he stammered.

      “There is no need to worry. It is okay for now.” Androia knelt down, pulled the topmost blanket over her partner and tried to wrap him in. “Look, we got you out of this glittering robes, and now we have to keep you warm, then you will soon feel better, I am sure. – Oh, no!” Looking down, she had suddenly realized that it would have been much better to remove Hieronymus' robes before she had dragged him to her chest. The glitter was all over her robes now as well.

      Hieronymus eyes widened even more when his partner wriggled out of her robes and threw it across the room.

      “There,” she said, “it is all gone. Now let us keep you warm and comfortable.” Androia laid down on the blankets, shoved one arm under her partners neck and started to caress his face with the other hand. “Now, now,” she soothed. “It will get better soon.”

      “It wasn't the glitter,” moaned Hieronymus. “Nor the wilver.” And then it broke out of him. “Androia! I just murdered a girl!”

      Androia sat up and looked down at the man. “This is not what happened,” she said sternly. “Mary Sue is not a person. It is a concept that needs to be eradicated. I learned this from you. Do you remember? And you did not murder it. You saved my life when it held me at wand point and was about to use the killing curse on me.”

      “I know all this. But if it looks like a person, moves like a person, talks like a person –“

      “If it looks too good to be real, moves faster than a whirlwind and talks everybody into oblivion – come on, Hieronymus, you have read all the reports, and you have been there. It never bothered you when you watched me doing the Duty.”

      “That's true, but I still wasn't prepared for how it would feel to do it myself.” Hieronymus shuddered, but then he shoved the blankets aside and sat up. “We should clean up,” he said boldly.

      Androia glanced over the heaps of glittering clothes. “No need to hurry,” she said. “Any attempt to wash this stuff would be futile. It can all go directly into the garbage chute. She looked back at Hieronymus. “Do you feel better now?”

      Hieronymus nodded, standing up. “I'm okay.”

      He was quite obviously lying.

      “There is one thing I do not understand,” said Androia. “Why are you even here when you cannot stand the killing?”

      Because you are here, and I would do everything to be with you, would have been the honest answer. “I can't tell you,” said Hieronymus instead, on his way to the console.

      “Why not?”

      “There's no time,” answered Hieronymus, starting to program a portal. “We'll be sooo in trouble if I don't clean up the mess I made, puking all over the Slytherin common room.”

      Androia wanted to hug him. But apparently he did not want to be comforted anymore. And considering their current state, it would probably be inappropriate. “It may already be too late,” she said. “And don't you think that we should get dressed first?”

      -------------

      I should probably have set the precedences first, before I break them.

      But you may have guessed that usually Androia does the killing.

      You may also have noticed that Androia sleeps on the floor because she doesn't want to share a bedroom, let alone a bed, with her (strictly professional) partner.

      I'm not sure, but don't these hurt/comfort scenes always end with sex, or at least a confession of love?

      In case you wonder why Androia didn't take her partner to Medical: this is a precedent not broken yet. Androia Avatar was designed to be a one-woman-army able to go wherever she is sent to on her own. She doesn't call for help.

      (The miraculous sudden healing may not be understandable without the back-story that is always hinted at, but never spelled out. In short, at this time Androia may or may still not be aware that Hieronymus is her creator and tried to snatch her out of the game for the sole purpose of seducing her. I keep this ambiguous, because I don't know when it will happen, it depends on when I find a mission where it fits. So Androia's shock therapy may be deliberate or totally innocent. Anyway, seeing his dreams come true in this unexpected and unwanted way is a greater shock for Hieronymus then whatever may have happened during the mission. Being aware that Androia would be horrified if she realized the unfortunate implications – supposing that she doesn't know exactly what she is doing there – Hieronymus just cannot let this continue. Because he cares for his partner as much as she cares for him.)

      The provisional claim of RC 1953 is still pending (me asking for) Permission.

      HG

      • Concrit by doctorlit on 2014-10-14 05:59:00 UTC Link to this

        You're right that this scene loses some of its power without knowing its context within your spin-off. That said, it's still a powerful scene, with lots of emotion. It also does a fairly good job at hinting at the precedents it's breaking, so that it still gives the reader a good idea of what's happening, in general, between these characters. All in all, it's a decent "teaser" for your spin-off, as it shows off the personalities of and interactions between your agents.

        I wish I had more to say, but it's a little tough without knowing more about your characters. Sorry!

        And now, welcome to doctorlit's trademark list of errors:
        "RC 1953 had been quite for a too long time . . ."
        -"Quite" should be "quiet."
        -"For a too long time" is phrased weirdly. Alternatives would be, "for too long a time" or just "for too long."

        ". . . commanded the woman, 'and out of this robes.'"
        -"This" could be either "these" or "those," since "robes" is a plural word.

        ". . . while his forehead, which she had just rubbed dry, covered with small drops of sweat."
        -If you ignore the phrase separated with commas, the sentence, "His forehead covered with drops of sweat" has no verb. You need a "was" in between "dry" and "covered."

        ". . . shoved her hands under his axles, and pulled him . . ."
        -I'm not sure about British English, but in American English, "axle" isn't used as a synonym for "shoulder" commonly anymore. I would suggest just saying "shoulder" here.

        "Hieronymus eyes widened in alarm . . ."
        "Hieronymus" needs an apostrophe to show that his eyes are being talked about. Since "Hieronymus" is a proper name ending is "s," an apostrophe-s is added: "Hieronymous's." (If it were a common noun ending in "s," like "grass," it would only get an apostrophe: "the grass' color.")

        "'Look, we got you out of this glittering robes . . ."
        -"Robes" is plural, and the robes being talked about in this sentence have been pushed away (meaning far, rather than near), so you would use "those" instead of "this" here.

        "Hieronymus eyes widened even more when his partner wriggled out of her robes and threw it across the room."
        -Again, "Hieronymous's."
        -Since "robes" is plural, use "them" instead of "it."

        ". . . shoved one arm under her partners neck and started . . ."
        -"Partners" needs an apostrophe between the main word and the "s" to show ownership. It should be "partner's."

        "It can all go directly into the garbage chute."
        -This sentence is missing the quotation mark at the end.

        • Thank you for the feedback by Hieronymus Graubart on 2014-10-14 12:25:00 UTC Link to this

          Should I waste a Permission Givers’ time so that I can set up agent pages gathering everything I learned about Androia and Hieronymus in writing exercises and the badfic games? I’m still not sure whether I will ever want to write actual missions with them (the necessity to read the badfic first bothers me).

          I remember that I intended to write "for too long a time"; I must have changed it unconsciously because this way it would be weird in German.

          The dictionary gave me "armpits" or "axles" for what I wanted to say. "Axles" sounds closer to the German word, but since it’s unusual, I’ll use "armpits".

          I learned something new today, concerning "Hieronymus's eyes" versus "the grass' color".

          My greatest mistake is still posting too fast because the thread is already halfway down the page. Thank you for pointing out the errors that shouldn’t have escaped my alpha reading.

          HG

          • It's not a waste of time! by doctorlit on 2014-10-14 17:23:00 UTC Link to this

            Headquarters has become such a big place, you could easily write decades' worth of material just showing Hieronymous and Androia exploring it.

            Plus, there are so many departments and divisions that don't necessarily need to involve badfic. There's the Cafeteria and kitchens, DoSAT, Experiments and Research, Legal . . . You could also try some Intel work, so that you can look at the badfics through a more traditionally critical eye, without having to focus on every little problem.

            Another solution would be to simply make up badfics for missions. I've never tried this myself, so I don't know what it's like, but a lot of older spin-offs especially took this path. It would give you more control over what happened in the missions, and you wouldn't have to deal with anything worse than what you can imagine yourself. :)

    • "Day Trip" by KittyEden on 2014-10-09 11:37:00 UTC Link to this

      Taking my Agents Kitty and Kay out for a spin. They're brother and sister, and Kay's the calm and logical one. Kitty... doesn't have much regard for rules.
      Phoebe is a OC that is just popping up for fun!
      ---
      DAY TRIP
      ---
      “-and this,” said Kitty, throwing open the elaborately decorated door with a flourish. “is our response center. Hi, Kay!”
      “Hey, Kitty,” her brother greeted, without looking up from the copy of Harry Potter he was focused on. “How many rules did you break today?”
      She fidgeted a bit. “Ah, just one. Or two. Maybe. Come on in, Phoebe.”
      The other girl looked strangely reluctant to enter the room. Maybe it was the odd splotches of Urple and Wilver that streaked the walls. Or maybe it was the Sue head nailed to the wall.
      Kay banged his head against the page of the book. “Don’t tell me that you brought one of your friends into HQ for a tour.”
      She shrugged. “Okay. I didn’t bring one of my friends into HQ for a tour. Come on, Phoebe,” she tugged at her friend’s arm. “The minis don’t bite. Much.”
      “But that’s Phoebe!” Kay objected, jabbing a finger in the other girl’s direction. “I remember her! She came to your 12th birthday party! She was the one with the ice cream-”
      “We don’t mention the ice cream,” Phoebe snapped, finding her voice at last, and sliding into the room. “Nice place. Apart from, you know, the body parts nailed to the wall-”
      “It adds to the decor,” Kitty grinned.
      There was a loud siren from outside. Everyone inside the room jumped simultaneously.
      “...did you actually tell anyone you let Phoebe into the building?” Kay asked.
      “I may have forgotten to mention that small fact,” Kitty admitted.
      “What’s that noise?” Phoebe poked her head out the door.
      “Internal Affairs,” Kitty told her, and motioned out into the hallway. “We should probably... you know, run.”
      “Internal Affairs?” Phoebe screeched, allowing herself to be tugged along. “What sort of staffing do you have in this place?”
      Kitty broke into a quick sprint, and Phoebe let go so she could run at a normal pace beside her. “Let me put it this way. IA usually deals with the agents who are a little too trigger happy.”
      Phoebe snorted. “What sort of people do they hire here? Homicidal assassins?”
      “Yes!”
      They rounded a corner, and passed the open door of a Flower’s office. Phoebe stopped and stared for a moment. “Was that a flower in a business suit?”
      “Flower,” corrected Kitty. “Capital ‘F’. And yes! They’re our bosses!”
      “Where are we even going?”
      “Don’t think about it!”
      Kitty closed her eyes, and hastily slapped a hand across her friend’s forehead. She yelped in surprise.
      “Recite the 12 times tables backwards!” the junior Agent ordered. “12 times 12 is 144... 12 times 11 is 132...”
      Phoebe, being slightly in front, was the first of them to slam face-first into the Cafeteria door. Kitty opened her eyes and grinned. “Welcome to the Cafeteria, my dear friend!”
      “That sounds weird,” Phoebe decided. “Don’t call me that. You have a Cafeteria?”
      “Yeah, you don’t expect us to starve, do you?”
      “Well, from what you’ve told me... hey, what’s in that fountain? It doesn’t look like water.”
      Kitty pushed the doors open and dragged Phoebe through them. “Bleepka. Don’t drink it unless you want to get utterly high.”
      “What’s-?”
      “Bleepka? It’s bleach, mixed with aspirin, mixed with vodka.”
      Phoebe frowned, remembering her chemistry classes. “But, that’s realistically impossible.”
      Kitty spun around, and pointed a finger at her. “YES, I KNOW. Everyone knows that, and they don’t care. But it works. And don’t remind them that it doesn’t, ‘cause they may start trying to kill you. And we are very creative here.”
      So saying, she continued her stalk down to a table, where she waved at a couple of elfin agents, and greeted a Time Lord in Old High Gallifreyan.
      “Right,” she decided. “Try a hamburger. They’re wicked good. But avoid the Sue Souffles.”
      She herself walked over to the counter and ordered three Canon Cookies, before swooping back to the table, and peering intently over at Phoebe. “So what do you think?”
      “Of this place?”
      “Yeah.”
      She wrinkled her nose. “I think... it’s utterly insane.”
      Kitty wiggled her toes under the table. “I know! Isn’t it great?”
      Phoebe looked slightly unsure. “Uh...”
      Behind Kitty, a cat-woman spat up a giant hairball, then walked away, leaving the clump of hair on a table.
      “And the best thing is,” Kitty continued, oblivious. “We can do whatever we want! Basically.”
      “Kitty,” Phoebe said quietly. “Can I go home now?”
      “Why?”
      “Because I think Internal Affairs is here now.”
      A crash from the doors signified the arrival of the aforementioned Action Department. Phoebe backed away slightly, but Kitty was unconcerned.
      “Hello!” she waved cheerfully. “If you wanted a Canon Cookie, sorry, but you’re out of luck. Now, if you had arrived about five seconds after the cookies got to our table, then maybe you could’ve got one, but...”
      Phoebe dropped her head onto the table and sighed. She was most definitely not going to join the PPC at any point in her life.

      • This was a fun, little character study. by doctorlit on 2014-10-10 03:15:00 UTC Link to this

        I love how the personalities of all three characters shine through, despite the short length of the piece and the lack of description. I especially like the contrast between Phoebe, as a complete outsider wholly uninterested in joining the PPC, and Kitty, a newbie who has nonetheless embraced it. The whole thing is frantic and exciting and silly, and very, very entertaining as a whole.

        • Thanks! by KittyEden on 2014-10-11 12:16:00 UTC Link to this

          :-D
          I'm not very good at description, so I rely on dialogue a lot. That's something I need to improve on.

          • Yeah, same here. (nm) by doctorlit on 2014-10-11 14:22:00 UTC Link to this
      • Concrit by Desdendelle on 2014-10-09 19:03:00 UTC Link to this

        (Sorta. Mostly nitpicks, though).
        1) Bleepka is not made from real Vodka, since Bleeprin and Alcohol go boom when mixed.
        2) The food in the Cafeteria is horrid (did my steak just move? Ew), and has been so, IIRC, since the Mysterious Somebody got booted.
        3) I'm not sure whether DIA would jump because a (non-Suvian) someone just entered HQ; after all, lots of Agents started their careers that way.

        • Counter nitpicks by Hieronymus Graubart on 2014-10-10 19:04:00 UTC Link to this

          Why would Agent Kitty tell the truth about the non-alcoholic character of pseudo-alcoholic Bleeprin Products? Does she look like a person who would even be aware of this "unimportant little detail"?

          How would the DIA know that Phoebe is non-suvian if they don’t do some kind of investigation? Scaring Phoebe and making the DIA agent’s lives more difficult by running away rather than telling them who Phoebe is may just be what Agent Kitty does to have fun.

          Opinions about cafeteria food may differ. I agree that the food was horrible for many years. But this was probably when the cafeteria staff was still anonymous and nobody knew where to complain. Shouldn’t we expect that named cafeteria workers try to go new ways, especially after the meatloaf incident? Apparently the cafeteria still serves traditional menus (like Sue Souffles) for agents who don’t care, so agents who don’t ask may never find out that there is other stuff.

          HG

          • Re: dat foods by doctorlit on 2014-10-11 04:26:00 UTC Link to this

            The way I see it, it's a mix. Obviously, they've got gross stuff, put together from raw materials that sit around for dozens of vague time units. Hawkelf touched on this in her classic cafeteria story. *shudder*

            But we've also seen in VM's spin-off that at least some Cafeteria workers go on "missions" to collect food directly from fics (good or bad). That stuff is probably a lot more quality and edible and, uh, homogeneous than the stuff that gets thrown together in the kitchens.

            Just my take. Right now, I'm writing an interlude/mission for my cafeteria workers that will show a mix of both in the kitchens.

            —doctorlit, who has sadly managed to bring up every existing cafeteria spin-off in this tiny little post

    • "#9834" by doctorlit on 2014-10-08 03:18:00 UTC Link to this

      You've (probably) read missions that spork songfics. Well, here's a mission that is, itself, a songfic!
      * * *
      BEEEEEEEEP!

      Agent Josie groaned and hugged the blankets tighter over her head. Her partner had already shut off the alarm, but the RC was now filling with guitar riffs, rising in volume. Here we go again, she thought.

      Franklin ripped off her blankets in one easy motion. "♪Back in black♪" he sang, and Josie found herself already fully dressed in PPC uniform.

      "♪I hit the sack♪" she tried to complain, but it came out song against her will.

      "♪I've been too long; I'm glad to be back♪" Franklin began gathering equipment, so quickly he blurred a bit as he moved around the room. "♪Yes, I'm let loose♪" He found a tied coil of rope from somewhere, shrugged, and added to the rest of the weapons. "♪From the noose♪"

      "♪That keeps me hanging around♪" added Josie, with a longing look at the rope.

      Suddenly, they were jumping through the portal into the Word World. Looking at the clouds over Barnett College, Franklin continued the song. "♪I been looking at the sky 'cause it's getting me high♪"

      Josie muttered, "♪Forget the hearse, because I'll never die. I've got nine lives—♪"

      "♪Cat's eyes♪" Franklin interrupted, pointing to a woman with slit pupils and clothing that definitely did not exist in the 1930s. A crowd of students and faculty was following her wake, entranced.

      The two agents sang in unison, "♪Abusing every one of them and running wild♪
      * * *
      Once the Sue tracked down her target in Hamilton Hall, he was awestruck by the cat-eyed woman.

      In a weird, falsetto voice that didn't sound like Indiana Jones at all, he sang, "♪I can tell that you are the most beautiful girl in the—♪"

      "♪Room♪" finished Franklin. The agents were listening from outside the door to Jones' office, which contained exactly two humans.

      Josie snickered. "♪In the whole wide room♪" she added, earning a grin from Franklin.

      Inside, the Sue glowered towards the doorway. Jones hadn't noticed anything, and continued to sing. "♪And when you're on the street♪"

      "♪Depending on the street♪"

      "♪I bet you are definitely♪"

      "♪In the top three♪" Another round of snickering.

      "♪'Cause you're so beautiful, like a . . . tree♪" The Sue raised an eyebrow at Jones.

      The agents in the hallway had to cover their mouths to stop from laughing aloud at this. Jones was either fighting the Suefluence or really, really addled by it.

      Franklin started to add, "♪Or a high-class prosti—♪" but Josie smacked him in the nose.

      The Sue knew she heard something that time. She got up in a rage and walked to the doorway. But there was nothing there, except for a nasal voice floating down from some distant hallway: "♪You could be a . . . part . . . time . . . model♪"
      * * *
      Over a map of the world, a simple drawing of an airplane traveled from New York over the Atlantic Ocean to Egypt.

      "Man, I love this canon's scene transitions."
      * * *
      The Agents followed the archaeologist and the . . . whatever the Sue was supposed to be from the Cairo International Airport to an unspecified pyramid. A hidden passage had led the two characters into and endless stream of battles with an army of mummies. (Ironically the mummies were actually canon for the continuum, but the airport shouldn't have existed prior to World War II.)

      It was, perhaps, the least interesting fight scene against armies of monsters that had ever appeared in fiction. Despite the tight quarters of the passageway, endless numbers of enemies and nearly total darkness (Jones had at least brought a torch), the Sue and Jones were meeting little more effort than they would have strolling through a country park on a quiet day.

      The Sue turned a corner, knocking a mummy away with one hand and pulverizing it into dust. The agents trailed behind just outside the range of Indy's torch light.

      The Sue killed another five mummies with three bullets, barely looking to aim as she continued towards her destination with no map. She proclaimed, "♪We call them fools, who have to dance within the flames. Who chance the sorrow and the shame that always comes with getting burned♪"

      "♪Standing outside the fire?♪" Josie questioned.

      "♪Standing outside the fire♪" Franklin confirmed. Then, both agents sang together. "♪Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you stand outside the fire♪"

      The Sue smiled at Indy, who followed along beside her, but smirked after she looked forward again. "♪We call them strong, those who can face this world alone, who seem to get by on their own. Those who will never take the fall♪"

      Franklin shaped his hands into a vague airplane shape and raised is arms towards the ceiling. "♪Wanting to glide higher and higher♪"

      "♪I can't abide standing outside the fire♪" Josie flipped open the chamber of her pistol and checked that it was loaded.
      * * *
      The Sue and her tag-along canon had found a . . . thing. It was in a large chamber hidden inside of a fake sarcophagus. The Sue seemed to think it was very valuable, although the agents thought it would be difficult to sell something that tried to be about seven different colors at once while its edges continuously wavered, and that may or may not have been hovering in mid-air. The agents wound up missing most of that scene due to the headaches brought on by looking at the questionable artifact for too long.

      Franklin downed another smiling mouthful of Bleeprin. "♪All I know is working on drugs feels better when they're prescription! All I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful♪" He started rocking back and forth.

      Josie was taking one tablet at a time, raising it to her mouth slowly, putting it inside just after swallowing the previous one. Then, she started chewing while reaching for the next one. She quietly sang, "♪Daydream. I fell asleep beneath the Flowers for a couple of hours on a beautiful dream♪"

      Suddenly, their demeanors reversed. Franklin slouched against the wall and drawled out, "♪Sometimes I'd liked to slow things down. Enjoy the moment. But when I look, the moment's gone♪"

      Josie jerked up and smashed a fist into the stone wall. Glancing about wildly, she sang forcefully, "♪As I spy from behind my giant robot's eyes, I keep him happy cause I might fall out if he cries. Scared of heights so I might pass out if he flies. Keep him on auto-pilot cause I can't drive♪"

      But the moment passed; Josie settled back down and put her head in her hands, while Franklin began to get jittery again. "♪All I know is work is easy when you don't stress out about deadlines. All I know is to take my medicine; I always take my medicine♪"

      Through her hands, Josie mumbled, "♪Daydream. I dream of you amid the Flowers for a couple of hours. Such a beautiful day.♪"
      * * *
      The Sue had left Jones trapped in the treasure room, and was absconding with the torch and the unnameable something, unaware that Indy had already been neuralyzed and portalled back to Barnett. She wasn't yet halfway back to the entrance when a male voice, accompanied by guitar chords, echoed out of the darkness.

      "♪You got your war on science and your dusty roads. Reverse logic tricks and shadows♪"

      The Sue picked up the pace, running through the hidden passage.

      "♪Morbid fascination with other people's souls. Like watching cars crash, your false bravado♪"

      Her running speed put out the torch, and she dropped it to clatter on the tunnel floor. It didn't matter; she had made these tunnels.

      "♪You try to rewrite history, add a little mystery. You're still waiting for your time to come♪"

      Left. Left. Right. Up. Down. She would be out soon. Left. Right. Wrong?

      "♪You're still waiting? Oh the moment's gone.
      Yeah, it's gone♪" The last line's echo faded into the background as the Sue found herself in a strange section of tunnel. The walls were all grey, and there didn't seem to be a way out, except for the shimmering blue doorway she had just run through.

      Suddenly, the treasure in her hand seemed to lurch on its own. It settled down into one color, and the edges became defined—it had settled down into a simple gold coin. Still valuable, but significantly less special.

      "No!" the Sue started to shriek, but her voice changed timber halfway through, sounding more like an animal's wail. She felt herself shrink down, suddenly very near the floor. If she could see her reflection in a mirror, however, she would find solace upon discovering that her eyes were still the same.

      A figure appeared through the portal, a woman. She gave a simle— not a nice one. "Sorry about all the singing," she said. "My partner can't help it; he comes from Glee. As you can see, he's far enough away now that it's no longer affecting us."

      She raised a pistol from behind her back. The Sue flattened her ears against her head and hissed.

      "That doesn't mean I can't quote a song, of course. So how about this? 'You may hate me, but it ain't no lie. Kitty, bye, bye, bye.'"
      * * *
      Precedents broken:
      *Missions are not songfics. (Yes, I know about Ekwy's musical, but that wasn't a mission proper.)
      *doctorlit can't write a decent mission in under a year? >> Maybe?

      I seriously would like feedback, not just on the story here, but on the idea itself. I don't think I've ever heard a single positive thing said in this community about songfics, not even the "rare but possible to do well" that Mary Sues get. I have a Sound of Music mission in the (long distant, eventual) works, that would be treated very similarly to this. (Though probably with more filking of lyrics, for plot reasons.)

      All the songs I used here appear on the <a href="http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/PPC
      Soundtrack">PPC Soundtrack. I have changed and rearranged lyrics a bit to make them work in some places.

      I was going to link to YouTube videos of all the songs, but I have company over now, so look them up yourselves.

      • Very nice! by Miah on 2014-10-17 20:43:00 UTC Link to this

        Back in Black was the only song I recognized, although some of the other lyrics seemed familiar enough that I felt like I should know where they came from. I have to say it is more fun when the song is in the back of my mind while reading the story.

        That said, this worked really well for a mission. That they sang the lyrics and the lyrics fit so well into the flow of the story was great. My usual gripe about songfics is that they misuse the song. The song's general meaning is twisted, or the lyrics taken way out of context, or the canon is severely twisted to force it to fit the song. I liked that there was an explanation with him coming from Glee. Will we see more of this aspect of his character later on?

        So, interesting mission with unique style.

        I saw a typo here: She gave a simle— not a nice one.

        • I'm glad it worked for you! by doctorlit on 2014-10-18 15:07:00 UTC Link to this

          It was pretty tricky to find lyrics that could be molded into the story well, so I can see why well done songfics aren't easy to find.

          I would like to use these two a bit more, but only if I can think of good ways to use them. I'm sort of wanting to have them set in the Wrecked Music Department before its closing, although I don't think that meshes with Glee's release date.

          Unfortunately, that Sound of Music fic I wanted to spork seems to have been deleted. :(

          • Re: I'm glad it worked for you! by Miah on 2014-10-18 17:23:00 UTC Link to this

            Make a copy of the fics you are targeting. I keep them in gdocs. One of my first missions, the fic was deleted when I was about 3/4's done writing the mission. Ever since I make copies (with links to it and the full crediting headers of the site it was posted on).

            • You know, I would have sworn I had. by doctorlit on 2014-10-19 05:36:00 UTC Link to this

              I actually have most of my potential targets printed out, so I can make like Araeph and red pen them to death. But I don't seem to have "Terror in Salzburg" anywhere. :(

      • Feedback by Hieronymus Graubart on 2014-10-09 19:24:00 UTC Link to this

        Well, songfics are definitely not my thing. But that’s mostly because I never recognize the songs, and having fun with this is probably the point of a songfic. Or maybe it isn’t. Anyway, I’m just not a musical person.

        Having this said, I’m astonished how good the lyrics work in this mission. And we even get a reasonable explanation for all the singing. (Of course I had to look up Glee, and then I was glad that I had guessed right). So I have to say, yes, it can be done well.

        I liked the use of the Reality Room at the end. But it might have worked even better if you had included some hints that this Sue was more cat than girl; I barely remembered the "Cat's eyes" at this point. Also, Josie and Franklin will get into trouble because they didn’t read a charge list.

        Technical Errors:
        and added to the rest of the weapons missing word?

        had led the two characters into and endless stream of battles should be "an endless stream".

        raised is arms towards the ceiling should be "raised his arms".

        I’m looking forward to your Sound of Music mission now.

        HG

        • Thank you! I'm glad it was enjoyable. by doctorlit on 2014-10-10 00:47:00 UTC Link to this

          And I'm glad the lyrics worked with the action.

          I wasn't really meaning that the Sue was more cat than girl, but thinking now, the Reality Room would probably just have changed the eyes in that case, huh? I'll add a description to make her more feline. I think I regret not giving the Sue a name, too.

          I, uh . . . I legitimately forgot about the charge list. Got too wrapped up in the scene. Woops.

          And thanks for catching those other errors, too!

    • Sentience by Rats on 2014-10-08 03:14:00 UTC Link to this

      PPC Precedent: The console always goes off in moments of idle contemplation and relaxation. Always. . . unless something worse could possibly happen.
      Because even agents need some rest and consoles can be downright mean.

      Possible relevant things to note beforehand: Lance is from the Chronicles of Amber continuum, and there's this magic thing there. It's mentioned briefly. That's it, basically.
      There's likely to be some wonky sentences in here, so bewaaaaare.

      ----------------------------

      Sentience

      It was too quiet in the room, though no one seemed to notice. Its inhabitants had just arrived from a particularly nasty and ugly fic and both needed a little alone time.

      The top bunk, Shri decided, was super duper excellent. She had an excellent bird's-eye view of the entire room (and of Lance sort of absently wandering around), and she was just short enough that she wouldn't bash her head against the flat, grey ceiling if she were to suddenly sit up.
      So she shut her eyes and relaxed- or, at least, tried to. Something felt. . . tense. There was a sort of nigh imperceivable static in the air, the feeling of a storm roiling and coiling into range, and in this moment of nothing she was able to sense it.

      Sighing, she opened her eyes and stared at the blank ceiling above her. I'll have to put up a poster or something, she thought, as she called out, "Lance?"
      He grunted in response.
      "Does something feel wrong to you?" She sat up to look down at him.
      He paused in his pacing to glance around, dark eyes narrowed. "Yeah, actually, it does. It's been bothering me for a while. I'm glad you noticed, I thought it was just in my head, or something."

      Shri slid down the ladder and put her hands on her hips, surveying the room critically. "It's almost like. . . it reminds me of the caves, everything's just kind of. . ." She made a vague sweeping gesture with her hands and Lance nodded in agreement.

      "It's too quiet," he said.

      Shri hummed under her breath. "That could very possibly be it." They both paused and listened. "What would we normally be hearing?" Shri murmured.
      Their gaze settled on the console in the corner of the room.

      It was too quiet.

      "Oh no," Shri said. "Oh no oh no oh no."
      Lance looked unperturbed. "I'm sure it's fine-" he began, but Shri had already strode over to it and was tapping away at the keyboard. She gave Lance a stricken sort of look, as if she'd just witnessed a traumatized puppy.
      "Lance, I think it's broken."
      "Shri, c'mon, it can't be broken, it's probably magic, or something, I dunno-"
      "When was the last time we got back from a mission and it didn't make an exceedingly loud noise while we were relaxing? No, there's definitely something wrong with it. . . come look at it using the tendril Logrus thing or whatever, will you?"

      Lance sighed heavily. He stepped over to the console and placed a hand on the screen, cautiously, as if it might bite him, before shutting his eyes and carefully feeling outwards, deep into the machine.
      ". . .I have no idea how that thing works," he admitted, stepping back from the console and shaking out his hand. It had pins and needles, which was slightly odd. "So I can't fix it, if it's even broken."
      "Then what are we supposed to do?!" Shri said, her eyes wide and worried. "I mean, this place probably has maintenance or something, right? I think there was a section in the handbook about that, or something-"
      "Shri, relax," Lance instructed, taking her by the shoulder. She fell silent. "Worse comes to worse, we just won't have missions for a bit while we figure out what's going on, right?" He grinned. "Like vacation."

      She bit her lip. "Wouldn't that be dishonest?"
      "Never bothered me before." Lance shrugged. Shri looked bothered.
      "Well, I'm going to do something about it," she declared, turning back to the machine. He sighed.
      "Suit yourself." He settled himself on the bottom bunk (he'd had enough run-ins with the ceiling and had reluctantly given up the higher bed for the sake of his skull), pulled the pillow over his eyes, and slipped into a deep doze. This wasn't difficult, considering the amount of work they'd been doing. Fixing fic will do that to a person, or demonic creature, as it may be.

      Shri, meanwhile, tapped fervently on the keyboard. Her touch-typing skills, thankfully, were still up to par, as was her rudimentary coding knowledge. . . though it took ages just to locate the programming itself, and even then the programs were nothing like she'd ever seen before. It wasn't long before she rested her face in her arms (just for a second to rest her eyes, naturally) and found herself nodding off.

      The room was silent a little longer. The agents rested soundly.

      The approximate amount of time for an acceptable and healthy cap-nap is about twenty minutes. Twenty minutes later, an ear-rending BEEEEEEP sliced through the air.
      Shri made a noise that she hoped was a yelp but was really more of a short scream and Lance jerked upwards into a sitting position, promptly smacking his forehead against a beam under the upper bunk of the bed.
      Amidst the stream of cursing in many different languages, Shri picked herself up from off the floor where she had fallen and stumbled forward, squinting at the console.

      A bolded "HA HA HA HA HA" was prominently displayed at the top of the screen, followed by new mission information.
      And Shri found herself wondering, not for the first time, if they actually had a third sentience residing in the room with them.

      ------------------
      A lot of dialogue and not a lot of description, so. . . I guess really short paragraphs? Whoops.

      • Concrit. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-08 16:49:00 UTC Link to this

        Oh yes. I like.

        For starters, I like the very idea. The notion that a nice thing happening to the agents is so foreign that they spend all their time trying to find the catch is hilarious. You've done an excellent job of building their reactions gradually: first the slow realisation, then the increasingly frantic attempts to fix it.

        One thing that baffles me is your paragraphing. You've clumped some paragraphs together, and broken others apart. Is there any particular reason for this? They don't seem to be scene breaks - just random single or double line breaks.

        You've also got some split paragraphs that didn't need to be. 2 and 3, for instance - 'if she were to suddenly sit up. So she shut her eyes' would've worked fine. I'm honestly not sure if you were trying to do something specific here.

        I'm also dubious about one point - the idea that the programs behind the console can be accessed and read by agents. Even allowing for the assumption that they're in anything approximating a real coding language - though, admittedly, you did say it looked weird - this seems like a really serious security flaw.

        Still, it was fun to see Shri and Lance's different reactions to the situation; they were pretty convincing, though 'the lady doth protest too much, methinks(!)'. And the ending, of course, was brilliant.

        hS

        • Thank you! by Rats on 2014-10-08 18:06:00 UTC Link to this

          Paragraphing is one of my major vices, yeah. There. . . really isn't any rhyme or reason to it, to be honest, except for a new paragraph for dialogue by a different person. Is that necessary? I've always operated under the assumption that that is necessary, or at least highly encouraged. I should look that up.

          That is a very good point! That would be a pretty serious security flaw. If I ever go for permission and decide to edit this and make it part of my agent's canon, I'd definitely change that.

          Thank you so much for the concrit!

          • *butts in* Ooh, allow me to speak of paragraphing. by Neshomeh on 2014-10-08 19:30:00 UTC Link to this

            First of all, you need to use a double line-break between paragraphs all the time. That's hitting "Enter" twice. That's the easy part.

            When to start a new paragraph is a tricky questions, and there are very few concrete rules about it. You're correct that you need a new paragraph when a new person speaks, but beyond that, it can get pretty fuzzy, especially in fiction.

            However, I have some tips:

            1. Start a new paragraph when a new person does something, including but not limited to speaking. This is especially helpful in dialogue passages. We communicate with body language, not just words, so a silent facial expression or gesture in response to someone's speech counts as a line of dialogue. This is even more helpful when you've got two characters of the same gender in the scene. If everybody sticks to their own paragraphs, it's harder to confuse which of two hes or shes you're talking about and you don't have to belabor their names as much.

            1.5. No, you don't have to strictly adhere to this all the time.

            2. Paragraphs are used in formal writing to set off different ideas, and this more or less works for fiction, too. Each paragraph should contain a complete thought, whether it's one sentence or more. Especially long thoughts should be broken up into smaller paragraphs (each containing a piece of the thought) to save your readers' eyes, though.

            3. As for what constitutes a "thought," consider the function of the passage you're writing. Is it dialogue, action, description, exposition...? Consider using a new paragraph when you switch functions or to a new subject of the same function. (I.e., as you would use a new paragraph for a new speaker, use a new paragraph for each step of the action, each new thing you describe, each new thing exposited, etc.)

            4. Write things in the order they happen. This isn't strictly a paragraphing rule, but it helps to remember that actions should come before reactions. You can, of course, play with this—your POV character may not be privy to the action that caused the reaction, or you may want to write the reaction first for comedic effect. But always know what happened in what order, and that'll help your paragraphing.

            ~Neshomeh will shut up and go run errands now.

            • !!! by Rats on 2014-10-09 03:06:00 UTC Link to this

              Oooh, thanks! These are great tips. I'll keep them in mind from now on!

    • That's one way of doing it... by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-06 16:53:00 UTC Link to this

      "Are you sure this is actually allowed?" Kelly asked looking at Apollo from their current position, hiding behind some of the trees at the edge of the Forbidden Forest.
      "No" Apollo answered bluntly as he carefully attached the Howler to his arrow. "But that's why we're both doing this, so one of us can't shift the blame entirely onto the other."
      "I could of sworn the reason you gave originally was that the Charge list was too long to be read out loud and for just one howler." Kelly asked, as she too attached a howler to an arrow before carefully nocking it into her bow.
      "That too." Apollo said, raising his bow up and aiming it at where the Sue would be walking along soon as she 'waited for her moonlight walk with Draco' that, as the Words on the edge of Apollo's vision said, would end up as a lot more than just a walk.
      "OK," Kelly agreed, aiming her bow. "You've got the first bit of the Charge list right?"
      "Mhm." Apollo affirmed, as he continued to wait for the 'Sue to appear in his sights.

      It was a few minutes later that the Sue appeared in Apollo's sight, letting out a sigh he fired his arrow, a couple of seconds later hearing a similar sound as Kelly loosed her arrow towards the Sue. Thankfully the attack worked as planned, surprising the Sue before she had time to activate the 'magical elemental powars' that she supposedly had. Staying until the first Howler started screaming at the Sues body the two agents as the sound resonated throughout the Hogwarts grounds.
      "That went well don't you think." Apollo said as they landed back into RC 9.81
      "Not as badly as the other one we've done in Harry Potter." Kelly agreed, jumping back onto her bed for a quick nap. Not a moment later she jumped back up as the console gave off a slight tune, that the two agents now recognized as it receiving a message rather than a mission.
      "What is it?" Apollo asked from his bed where he was putting a couple of new arrows into his quiver.
      "It's a message from the SO." Kelly replied, "it wants to see us about the quote 'unusual ending to our last mission'"

      ---

      Precedents:
      Obviously not charging the Sue whilst it's still alive. Also (I think) using a weapon to dispose of the Sue that wouldn't canonically have been used.

      Short little thing I came up with regarding a variation on an idea I've wanted to use for a while

      Storme Hawk

      • Concrit by Huinesoron on 2014-10-07 13:16:00 UTC Link to this

        This was interesting. I liked the use of the Howlers to present the charge list; one of my ulterior motives in selecting this challenge was to see what ideas people came up with which could be used in normal missions, and that's definitely one. The idea of tying them to arrows, and of recording two so's the blame couldn't be laid on just one agent, was both clever and funny.

        My main issue with this piece, sadly, is the middle: it took me two or three reads to figure out what had actually happened, though some of that might be down to not being terribly familiar with Howlers. But... well, for one thing, you never actually say the Sue is dead. She's 'surprised', and then the Howler screams at her, and the agents run away. Showing us her 'reaction' in more detail - throwing up her arms, scrabbling for her wand in an effort to use her 'powars', then falling still as the first Howler starts up - would have made things much easier to follow. (You've also got a missing word or two in the last sentence of that paragraph - 'Staying until the first Howler started screaming at the Sues body the two agents as the sound resonated'. The two agents what?)

        Anyway, I really like the way you ended the story. Yes, it's somewhat cliche (didn't Jay and Acacia have exactly the same ending once?), but it's important to show that breaking precedent =/= getting away with it. Breaking the rules and taking your punishment is a far more interesting story - and characters who don't face consequences are more accurately known as Suvians. So well done!

        hS

        • Re: Concrit by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-13 14:30:00 UTC Link to this

          I thought I'd replied to this before, but it seems I hadn't, so sorry about that.
          Onto the concrit.

          Yeah, the middle. I've looked back at it and I've got to agree it's nowhere near the best bit of writing I've ever done. I think I was getting a bit too bored of the largely dialogue based first part and wanted to do something different in the middle. I've already decided once I'm done with writing this reply I'm going to try and rewrite the whole snippet redoing the middle and picking up on the little mistakes I've seen since originally writing the piece.

          I like trying to find ways to reference, however slightly, the Original Series and spinoffs that I like in my PPC writings and I think the ending may have been one of those times that I did it without really realising that I was.

          But thanks for the positives though. Like I said before I'm going to try and rewrite it now, so (despite this being halfway down the front page and much less likely to be read) I hope the second version is better than the first.

          Storme Hawk

          • That's one way of doing it... (Version 2) by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-13 15:11:00 UTC Link to this

            "You that this is allowed?" Kelly asked, looking at Apollo from her current position, hiding behind a tree on the edge of the Forbidden Forest.
            "No" Apollo answered bluntly from behind the tree next to Kelly's. He was leaning against his tree as he carefully tied the Howler onto one of his arrows. "But that's why we're both doing this, so we can't leave one person with all the blame."
            "Unless I don't fire this" Kelly countered playfully.
            Apollo glared at her for a second "Then I'll leave you to explain why we the Sue died after hearing only a half completed charge list, unless you want to run in their afterwards and finish her off yourself?"
            Kelly shook her head slowly, as she too tied a Howler to an arrow. "I was only joking, you realize."
            "Wasn't exactly that funny though." Apollo replied, nocking the arrow to his bow, before testing how it felt as he drew his bow back slowly.
            "So you don't mind having a bit of a lugh in the RC, but now..." Kelly started.
            "Now we're on a mission, we need to focus and not try to lose our heads." Apollo interupted.
            "You don't have to be like Batman anymore, you're not in your home 'verse fighting for survival" Kelly argued back, before sighing and testing her own bow.
            Apollo started on a reply before stopping himself. He sighed "I know, but old habits die hard. C'mon let's just get this done and go home. You have got the second part of the charge list right?"
            Kelly checked her Howler, noting that it had the number two circled in the lower right hand corner she nodded and said "Yep, I'll admit I'm glad we're doing this instead of reading that long-ass list like we normally do."
            "That's the other reason why there's two." Apollo said, as he scanned the words that appeared on the edge of his vision, looking to see how long it would take for the Sue to be walking along as she 'waited for her moonlight walk with Draco', that further down the words, Apollo could see would turn into a lot more than that. "It seems weird that there's a character limit on Howlers in this fic, especially seeing as the 'Sue sent that one to Molly Weasley that contained all the made up titles the 'Sue has collected."
            "Yeah" Kelly agreed. "Not long now right?" she asked as she readied her bow.
            Apollo double checked the words. "Any second now." He replied, drawing his own bow back properly this time, aiming for the correct spot between the trees in which the Sue would be waiting.
            --
            "There she is" Kelly whispered a couple of minutes later as the Sue finally appeared in sight. "You goi--" She was interupted by a slight whistling sound as Apollo loosed his arrow. Sighing to herself Kelly loosed her own bow at the Sue, watching as the Sue turned around as her 'elemental powas' alerted her to the arrows flying towards her, although she was unable to react quickly enough as the first arrow struck her right shoulder, just as she released her wand from the holder on her wrist, Kelly's arrow struck her second, getting her in the centre of the left side of her torso. As the first Howler exploded and started to shout the beginning of the charge list at the dying Sue, Kelly nocked another arrow into her bow. "Apollo guide my aim" she muttered to herself quickly, hoping her father could hear her, or else that her partner would be a better shot than her, not of course that she'd ever admit it to Apollo. Loosing her arrow, Kelly heard the second Howler explode into life, it's voice resonating throughout Hogwarts' grounds.
            "She's done for" Apollo called, his eyesight allowing him to see through the dying flames that the Sue had 'conjured' to protect herself, as he noted that the Sue was lying still with four arrows sticking out of her. "Let's get out of here."
            "Right behind you" Kelly replied, activating their portal back and following Apollo through it.
            --
            "That went well don't you think." Apollo said as they landed back into RC 9.81
            "Not as badly as the other one we've done in Harry Potter." Kelly agreed, jumping onto her bed for a quick nap, although it was less than a moment later that she jumped back up as the console gave off a slight tune, that the two agents now recognized as it receiving a message rather than a mission.
            "What is it?" Apollo asked from his bed where he was putting a couple of new arrows into his quiver.
            "It's a message from the SO." Kelly replied, "it wants to see us about the quote 'unusual ending to our last mission'"

            • Reconcrit. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-13 15:31:00 UTC Link to this

              I'm going to throw this out as a series of points, rather than a cohesive review; it's easier that way. Note: these are in no particular order.

              -The actual course of events was much clearer; well done!

              -Double-spacing paragraphs makes internet text much more readable. That or indenting them, but the internet prefers double-spacing.

              -You have a few typos of various kinds dotted around. 'explain why we the Sue died', 'a bit of a lugh', 'run in their afterwards'. I mostly noticed them right at the beginning, though.

              -You're running into run-on sentences. Apollo's 'then I'll leave you to...' is one example, but take a look at 'the other reason why there's two' - your first sentence runs clear down to the second set of speech marks. The shooting scene consists mostly of two gigantic sentences. If you break these up, it will both sound more natural, and convey the passage of time better.

              -I like the character-building in the first half; I get a very clear idea of how the two agents are different, and who they used to be.

              -... why did Kelly fire two arrows? I see Apollo did so, too - why? Was the plan explicitly to wound and incapacitate her, then kill her once the Howlers were done? No, because Kelly fires before she hears her Howler kick in. So... why two arrows?

              -Apollo interrupting Kelly's question by shooting was funny. :D

              Overall comments: much improved. You have a much better flow across the story, and give us people we can be interested in. Sort out what are essentially formatting issues (in a broad sense that includes sentence structure and typos) and you'll be made.

              ('Made what?' I don't know, it's an idiom so it doesn't have to make sense)

              hS

            • Author's Notes by Storme Hawk on 2014-10-13 15:18:00 UTC Link to this

              Because I forgot to add these to the end of the piece. Obviously the same precendents as before were broken, but I tried to put a bit more characterization into it as well as fixing the previously badly written middle and trying to give a bit more information about the 'fic' itself that they're sporking.

    • My entry: 'Unprecedented'. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-06 11:17:00 UTC Link to this

      Sandra ducked back under the tree branch and paused for a moment, letting her eyes adjust to the gloom. Her partners (if that was the word) were still where she'd left them, waiting for her report.

      "The Fellowship are heading this way," she said, gesturing back towards the river. "They've finished building their pointless bridge - held together by the Sue's bra strap, if you can believe it - and they're finally ready to head up the mountain."

      Excellent work, the Sunflower Official told her. And how do you intend to excise the infestation?

      Sandra shrugged. "Normally, with a Tenth Walker in Hollin, I'd get Freckles to distract the canons while I read the charge list out. That's not really going to be possible here."

      Correct me if I'm wrong, the Coriander said, and please don't allow me to continue in error, but surely it is the case that your partner, Alison, who you also refer to as 'Blemishes', is in fact and in truth currently residing in Medical precisely because of, and indeed due to, the plan you have just outlined, wherein she distracts the characters and keeps them from-

      "Yes," Sandra said, then swallowed. "Ma'am. But the point is, I can't exactly send you out there to-"

      Whyever not? the SO asked. I'm quite certain I could provide an adequate distraction.

      Sandra resisted the urge to scream, Because the whole reason you're following me around is because you don't know what it's like out here anymore! Instead, she took a deep breath, met the Sunflower's gaze - insofar as that were possible - and said, "Because if I get you killed, I would be out of a job. Sir."

      Not at all, the Sunflower demurred, waving a leaf. The Queen Anne's Lace would be delighted to have you back, I'm sure.

      Sandra gritted her teeth. The Flower had been antagonising her ever since he and the Coriander showed up in her RC, claiming that they needed to 'observe agent operating methods in the field, to determine what, if anything, need be changed'. She wasn't entirely sure it was deliberate, but on the other hand, she wasn't inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

      If I might interject with an interruption, the Coriander said, her tone thoughtful, would I be correct in thinking, and voicing my conclusion, that this chapter is the final, ultimate, or last chapter of the story in which we are currently situated?

      "... currently situated," Sandra mumbled, trying to parse the question. "Uh... yes, ma'am, it's the last chapter."

      As I deduced, or perhaps recalled. The Coriander spread out her leaves, angling them towards the Words. And would it be both accurate and correct if I were to state my belief that the current time, being the portion of the story or badfic in which we are waiting, is in fact close to the final line and end of both chapter and scene, which could be said to be imminent, or indeed upon us?

      "... come again?"

      The Coriander shook herself irritably. To the Hole with this, she growled. Agent Cassandra: the story is almost over. Do you have time to do the Duty?

      Sandra frowned and looked up at the Words. Her eyes widened. "You could have said something!"

      I did, in fact-

      "No time!" Grabbing her bow from where it lay, Sandra ran back through the trees, not heeding the branches that snagged at her hair and jacket. "Not gonna have time to charge her," she panted, leaping over a rock. "Come on, come on..."

      She reached the bluff overlooking the old road and skidded to a halt, already nocking an arrow to her bow. She took a crucial second to aim at the distant Sue, loosed-

      Laurel smiled as she watched Aragorn stride ahead of the Fellowship. This was going to be a grand adventure.

      -and the arrow splintered in mid-air as if striking an invisible wall. Sandra let out an inarticulate cry and fired a second shot, with no better result.

      I did try to warn you.

      Sandra whirled on the Coriander, tears running down her face. "You could have said something sooner!" she yelled. "You could have stopped using that stupid redundancy!"

      Some of us have reputations to maintain, the Flower said, and waved a leaf towards the departing Fellowship. This is only one story out of millions, child. The true Fellowship will barely notice your miserable failure.

      Sandra glared at her. "And what about me? Will I barely notice?"

      You will probably become exceptionally depressed and have to be admitted to FicPsych, the Sunflower Official said, emerging from the forest. I will, of course, find this course of events extremely troubling. Shall we return to HQ so you can get started?




      Precedents:
      -Flowers do not go on missions.
      -Agents always succeed at their mission.
      -Talking is a free action.

      And I think it was JulyFlame who originally suggested sending the SO on a mission, several years ago; thanks for the idea.

      hS

      • Quite frankly... by JulyFlame on 2014-10-08 03:37:00 UTC Link to this

        I'm wondering how many of you managed to sneak your way into my unfinished/discontinued mission folder now.

        (But yes, was me. Surprised you remembered that since I don't think I mentioned it on the board!)

      • Re: story by doctorlit on 2014-10-06 16:00:00 UTC Link to this

        Oh man. This was so fun to read. I love that—well, let's go in order.

        I love that the SO refers to the Sue as the infestation, because it feels like a call-back to "Origins" where the Flowers thought of the Psuedos as illness/parasitic. It's a sharp contrast to typical agents, who still use the same pronouns and other human/character signifiers towards them.

        I love that the Flowers, and especially the SO, are basically sitting there MSTing Sandra's work. It's got that insufferable "my boss is watching over my shoulder" vibe. This gets reinforced by the fact that the mission's failure is entirely, undeniably 100% the Coriander's fault, and that it is entirely, undeniably 100% clear that Sandra will be getting all the blame. Altogether, it shows just how confident the SO is, that even being in the field for the first time in literally ever decades, he's still quite unfazed by being in a Suefic.

        I also like the bit of character development you've given Sandra here. In the past, she and Freckles have been roughly interchangeable with "generic" PPC agents. Here, though, we see how dedicated Sandra is to the Duty itself. Not only does she cry when she fails at the end, but she was even willing to skip the charge list in the actual, physical presence of two Flowers in order to get rid of the Sue.

        The "talking not a free action" angle is an interesting one. I might watch more closely in my future missions, for times when my dialogue goes on so long it could potentially make the agents miss something important.

        As for the mission "failing" . . . eh. There's really nothing preventing them from just portalling back to the beginning of the fic and starting over. Or even just to the start of this chapter, and doing the charge list there. This might just be my own inability to cope with failure talking. Also, I can't help but notice they can't quite go back to HQ right away: they have an uncanonical bridge to deconstruct, with a . . . possibly uncanonical article of clothing to remove from the continuum? Are bras a thing in Middle-earth? I honestly have no idea. But at least Sandra has something left to do to redeem herself a bit, even if only to herself!

        You forgot one more precedent you've broken: you made no SPaG errors for me to put in a, long obnoxious list here at the bottom! :)

  • New 'Driftwood' mission, & taking requests again. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-08 09:55:00 UTC Link to this

    Told you they'd be close together. ;)

    PPC: Driftwood - And So The Journey Begins (LotR, Suvian)

    And we have our first abuse report! Anyone want to start taking bets on how long SturmUndSquee will stay active? (Don't worry - the whole lot are backed up on GDrive, too)

    And, as before, I'm taking requests for their next mission, on a 'first come, only served' basis. Requirements:

    -The badfic needs to be short; not more than 6000 words, please.
    -The badfic should be rated no higher than T/PG-13.
    -Please tell me why you think it's bad! You can use the Intelligence Report format (below the line underneath), or something less formal, but don't just throw me a link and say 'this is a bad story'.
    -The one you can't judge... I have to know the canon! I'm not even going to try and list what I know, so just post and I'll say if I don't. I will note that, barring 'Pokemon games up to Platinum', I don't think I'm familiar with anything in the anime-manga continuua. (Other canons identified as unknown: My Little Pony)

    So - what've you got for me this time?

    hS




    Intelligence Report Template:

    Fic: [Title & link]
    Description: [Your summary]
    Plot Holes: [Brief description]
    Problem Passages:
    1) "[Brief excerpt]" [Reason it's bad]
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    • Since I am fairly certain you know Harry Potter... by James Shields on 2014-10-09 21:54:00 UTC Link to this

      How about this? His little girl

      This probably might on the way too short to mission side, since it is only one chapter long and certifiably dead.

      So, we have a potion gone wrong that is still nevertherless strong enought to drain Hermione of her intelligience and give it to Ron, which obviously would have turn them really OOC if this ever continued. Said intelligence draining turns Hermione mentally into a toddler, which in turn leads to her being literally turn into a toddler via another uncanonical potion.

      Her parents abandon her, she gets adopted by Harry which convulutely turns into a legal adult and there is the unexplicable mention of "magical adoption" making the child look like their parents...

      And then there is this lovely bit of badly done fourth-wall breaking " Up to now, this narrative has dwealt on Hermione's plight. The effects of the potion on her. Now, let's switch to Ron's. You may remember, and hopefully you do, or you've got short term memory loss issues, that the potion was meant to give Ron all the intelligence that Hermione lost. You might have assumed, since Ron's name was mentioned, literally, only ten times in the last chapter, compared to Hermione's twenty-four, that maybe since the potion was made so badly, Ron had escaped all its effects. "

      So, what do you think? is this thing missionable?

      • Uh. What. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-15 11:27:00 UTC Link to this

        Okay, yeah, that's... definitely mission-worthy (and missionable). Since I'm trying to keep 'accounts current' as it were, I'm not storing it up - but you're welcome to resuggest it next thread (which is already up).

        Actually, correction: having Hermione in the next mission would interfere with something I'm planning, so keep this back for the one after. Alternately, I'll come back to it if-and-when people stop giving me requests.

        hS

        • Alright then! by James Shields on 2014-10-15 23:24:00 UTC Link to this

          You can bet on it that I will ressuggest it when the Mission 5 suggestion threat comes up. I will be really glad to see this thing get killed.

      • Link, please? (nm) by eatpraylove on 2014-10-10 02:50:00 UTC Link to this
        • Glaraung it, I could swear I did the hiperlink... by James Shields on 2014-10-10 03:04:00 UTC Link to this

          here it is then.

    • Re: mission by doctorlit on 2014-10-08 20:35:00 UTC Link to this

      I like that Selene got to show off her emotions more this mission. I didn't realize she liked Boromir so much, so it was nice to see the scary thunder-pire acting like the typical PPC agent more. (Full disclosure: I haven't read most of your past missions yet, so I don't know what she acted like much before I joined. I'll get around to them eventually, but you're kind of a low archival priority, since I doubt you're leaving anytime soon. (: )

      Anyway, that emotional response to Boromir made the ending scene where he dies all the better. You can really hear from both agents' dialogue that they care about Boromir, but also that they respect him too much to interfere with his life, in the way any given Sue might.

      I also like the extremely subtle bit of envy going on regarding the cloak. One thing that I think would have been improved would be seeing the action of Selene grabbing the cloak as it happened, rather than getting it as narration to Agent Kaitlyn afterwards. I get why you did from Kaitlyn's point of view, since it reinforces Kaityln's desire to get the cloak, but it would have been more exciting from Selene's pov.

      The charge scene is especially excellent. I love that Kaitlyn delivers the charges in a way that Guinevere doesn't realize she's on the chopping block. It's a nice gesture to a less offensively bad character, but more importantly, it allows the agent and the Sue to have a more real conversation, because the Sue isn't instantly set on guard by antagonistic words.

      All in all, a fun mission, you had some entertaining little moments, and did a few things new and different.

      —doctorlit, who realizes his reviews more resemble flat discussions sometimes, but hopes they are still of some value, or at least interesting to read.

      • Thank you! by Huinesoron on 2014-10-09 13:09:00 UTC Link to this

        Replies in approximate order:

        Selene has been a bit up-and-down in terms of her personality. It comes from having two authors, plus my writing style changing significantly in the middle of her run. The stories I think of as including in-character Selene are 'legolas by laura', Crashing Down, and 'Rejection' from my Alternates>Agentshipping page. Her earlier missions will probably need rewriting; the 'big vampire reveal' in particular is just, uh, bad. (And I didn't write it, so it's not my fault! ;))

        The cloak... only exists because Kaitlyn needed one when she talked to Guinevere. So I'm pleased it worked out well, since it was quite last-minute! I see your point about seeing Selene take it, but you've also hit on one of my reasons for not doing so. Additionally, I try to stick vaguely to a Kaitlyn POV - it's not consistent, but there are very few scenes where she's not present. Something similar happens in the next mission, mostly because I didn't want to write them trying to portal Godzilla back home...

        And yeah, I had fun with that charge scene - could you tell? ^-^ I know I tend to skip over long charge lists, so I figured it would be nice to do something totally different. I'm glad it gave the impression I was going for!

        hS

    • *applause* by Iximaz on 2014-10-08 16:33:00 UTC Link to this

      Is it bad that I was crying with the agents when they had to let Boromir die?

      And wow, an abuse report already? I saw the review, but either I missed seeing them saying they would report you or it happened after the fact.


      Anyway, I have another suggestion! This one's a oneshot, so hopefully it meets the length criteria this time... ^_^'

      Fic Name: Bella Black (https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10730297/1/Bella-Black)
      Description: Bellatrix Lestrange/Hermione Granger. I'm not kidding.

      There are some bizarre scene breaks consisting of the characters' initials, like BBBBBBBBBBBBBB, HGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG, or BBHGBBHGBBHGBBHGBBHG. The POV changes all the time, from first person Bellatrix to first person Hermione to third person.

      I can't figure out when in canon it's supposed to take place. I guess sometime during book seven, but there wasn't any mention of the Battle of Hogwarts from what I could understand and yet Hermione just happened to stumble across Bellatrix sobbing by the black lake. And instead of jinxing a Death Eater on sight? She goes up to her and asks why she's crying. *headdesk*

      It's also rated K but there's at least one F-bomb and an extremely casual mention of Bellatrix being raped that made me mad.

      • Thanks! by Huinesoron on 2014-10-09 13:19:00 UTC Link to this

        Yeah, the reviewer sent me a very polite PM to let me know she'd reported it. I hold no grudge, but I do hope it doesn't get booted just yet.

        'Bella Black'... well, obviously I've already got a next mission (and am having great fun with it), but this looks like one to keep on file. The only problem is I never read past the beginning of Goblet of Fire, and never watched the films after OotP, so I don't really know Bellatrix. Or, y'know, why Voldy's crew are apparently having a meeting on the Hogwarts grounds, when Hogwarts appears to be 'friendly' (it mentions that it wouldn't be safe for Bellatrix to wander around) - is that a thing that happened?

        And... yeah. How much of what it says about Bellatrix is at all accurate? Any pointers?

        (Though, frankly, I could probably charge the whole thing solely based on Hermione's 'You are soft and luscious, your bust is voluptuous and you smell of fire, roses and parchment' speech. Eesh.)

        hS

        • Bellatrix- spoilers for later books in ramble format by Iximaz on 2014-10-09 17:46:00 UTC Link to this

          (Other Potterheads, feel free to add anything I might have missed.)

          Bellatrix is probably the most devoted of Voldemort's followers and is batcrap crazy. She's responsible for Neville's parents being unable to raise them because she, her husband, and Barty Crouch, Jr. tortured the Longbottoms into insanity because they thought the Longbottoms knew where Voldemort was.

          As far as I know, because Bellatrix ate up her parents' pureblood ideals, she was actually the favorite child, though Narcissa was also in good standing with their parents. Andromeda was disowned because she married a muggle-born, though.

          There's never any indication that Bellatrix's husband (Rodolphus) was ever abusive- in fact, he's kind of in the background when she's in the scene, if he's even there at all. And if he ever tried to abuse him, she'd Crucio the living daylights out of him. Yes, their marriage was arranged, but there was also never any indication in canon that Bellatrix had a problem with it. Though there are a lot of Bellamort fics out there for a reason- think Legolusters, but apply that to Bellatrix about Voldemort. Except not quite as much. Bellatrix worships the ground Voldemort walks on.

          "So I did what He expected of me, when Lucius ...ed up it was me who got punished by Him, so that Narcissa didn't have to worry. I became an imposter, I was locked away in Azkaban."

          This here? Wrong. Bellatrix got sent to Azkaban because of her involvement in torturing Neville's parents. And when Lucius '...ed up', let me tell you, he fell WAY out of favor with Voldemort.

          "Bellatrix Lestrange is getting up from her seat and walks out of the room. The Death Eaters look after her as if she was crazy, they weren't surprised though. Bellatrix was not like anyone else, she did what she wanted and got away with it. Bellatrix decided to take a walk along the Dark Lake, Hogwarts was not a safe place for someone like her but it was the only place that made her feel something. And that was exactly what she needed, some kind of feeling."

          And then while she's out there, Hermione's narration says:

          "I saw someone sitting on my spot, I came out here to get rid of all my problems and worries even if just for one night."

          WRONG WRONG WRONG. The Death Eaters who were 'teaching' at Hogwarts got chased out/incapacitated before the Battle of Hogwarts and Bellatrix was not one of those Death Eaters. What she was doing in Hogwarts in the first place, I have no idea, and Hermione would have been preparing for battle, not strolling along the lake.

          Oh, and Bellatrix wearing yoga pants and a blue sweater? She only wears Death Eater robes, which are black. Muggle clothes are a no-no.

          And the stuff about Hermione going to an orphanage because her parents didn't want a witch made me tear my hair out.

          Bellatrix being self-conscious? Would never happen in a million years. She's a psychopath and she loves killing and torturing.

          And lastly, you can't Apparate or Disapparate on the Hogwarts grounds.

    • A suggestion by Desdendelle on 2014-10-08 11:02:00 UTC Link to this

      My brain doesn't work right now, so I'll dispense with the formalities: Kelly The Roman Warrior by King Aurthr2 (Rated T). It goes a teeny bit over 6k words - 6,155, to be exact. It's bad because, well... it's basically "My Immortal" complete with a silly Sue and SPaG errors, except purportedly as a Lord of the Rings x Twilight crossover. Also has (bad) Roman antiquity stuff thrown in. To be honest... not sure whether it's trollfic or not.

      • Taking it. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-08 12:01:00 UTC Link to this

        Though I'll have to write myself a summary so I can follow what's going on... do we have Twilight minis yet? Ah, mini-Sparklewolves. So, hmm... what would a mini from Ancient Rome be? I see we have mini-Erinyes as a potential Aeschylus mini... heh. How would people take the idea of a completely abstract mini, such as a mini-Ides (as in, 'of March'). Given the general personification-obsession of Rome and Greece, they'd have a humanoid form (probably fairy-sized, with seasonal attributes depending on where and when they were encountered) - but they wouldn't always use it. A lot of the time, they'd simply be a vague feeling in your mind that it was the date in question - or, if you've got several hanging around, multiple dates.

        hS

        • Ancient Rome minis...? by Desdendelle on 2014-10-08 12:59:00 UTC Link to this

          My two ideas are mini-Caligulas (yes, that Caligula) or mini-Capitoline Wolves.

          • I'd prefer to avoid mini people. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-08 13:02:00 UTC Link to this

            They've always creeped me out.

            Mini-Capitoline Wolves have some promise... particularly in this story, which has at least one mini-Sparklewolf, and several Dracula minis, which I've already decided on mini-Wolves for. Selene will be delighted to have a whole insane mini-wolf pack around her - even if Edawrd Cullein and his kin are rather runt-like compared to the rest. (Mini-Sparklewolves are apparently rat-sized. ^-^)

            hS

            • I can imagine it, and it is pretty amusing: by Desdendelle on 2014-10-08 13:18:00 UTC Link to this

              Miniature motherly-slash-berserk she-wolves. That has a certain charm to it.
              "Down, Ceaser, down! My partner is not your adopted son!"

  • MLP legendary badfic (+Farewell) by Anonymouse on 2014-10-08 16:59:00 UTC Link to this

    After a bit of inspection, MLP's legendary badfic seem to not achieve legendary status by how bad they are, or how notorious they are. Instead of filth or notoriety, legendary badfic from the ponyverse are measured by fame.
    The three biggest candidates for such legendary badfic are Cupcakes (of course), Rainbow Factory, and Sweet Apple Massacre, although the latter is more a classic "notorious" legendary badfic than a "famous" one.

    Cupcakes is known by pretty much every brony, nor/mlp/erson, /pone/friend, pretty much any pony fan, so much that its central replacement!Sue has gotten its own name outside the fic ("Pinkamena"), is referenced almost constantly, has gotten cameos and central/side character status in everything from fanfics to videos to comics to fan songs, and even has nor/mlp/eople and /pone/friends calling her thier waifu. Despite its being killed by the PPC, I think it's reaching canon break status, as Pinkie's depressed state in "Party of One" (which aired about the same time Cupcakes was released) has been co-opted by Cupcakes fans as Pinkamena in canon, with most Pinkamena fanart using depressed!Pinkie's straight hair.

    With Rainbow Factory, it's easier to see why it got famous. Rainbow Factory, a songfic noteable for having an author-insert bit character who is killed in the fic, was based on a song of the same name (that is just as grimdark and uncanon) by WoodenToaster that pretty much exploded in popularity, and piggybacked off the song's success when WoodenToaster himself put a link to the fic in the song's Youtube description. Since then, WoodenToaster has teamed up with H8Seed to make a sequel to the song ("Awoken") that has become just as popular (and is just as grimdark and uncanon), and a third artist, SylphStorm, has made a song inspired by "Rainbow Factory" (both song AND fanfic) AND "Awoken", called "Pegasus Device". The reason I mention "Pegasus Device" is because it is auditory gold, and explicitly references the fic, which is a prime example of fanart that C[EXPUNGED]n and other non-mlp legendary badfics (well, except maybe Half Life: Full Life Consequences, but that's more parodic than fanart) still haven't claimed to themselves. Luckily, unlike Cupcakes, it is not an impending canon break scenario, but it does have its fair share of pretty much every kind of fanart.

    With that said, I must now leave. I apoligize, but I have abandoned plans to create a PPC spinoff at the moment, as I have other, more pressing problems to tackle both elsewhere on the Internet and in real life. However, I will be monitoring this, my last thread, for a while, and sometimes may pop in and create a thread.

    This is Anonymouse, signing out.

    • Re: MLP legendary badfic (+Farewell) by november14 on 2014-10-13 14:10:00 UTC Link to this

      You shall forever be remembered, O great Anonymouse. Depart with the knowledge that we shall always hope that you will be succesful in your endeavors against the problems that besiege you. Farewell, Anonymouse. As a farewell gift, what do you wish for? Nothing is to precious to mourn your passing with. *Removes hat in respect*

    • RE: badfic and farewell by eatpraylove on 2014-10-09 15:42:00 UTC Link to this

      That's...fairly disturbing information, to be honest. We need to reboot the Royal Fanfiction Academy of Equestria pretty soon, I'm thinking, if badfic can have that kind of impact even after the PPC kills it.

      Good luck with those problems you mentioned. I hope I see you again someday, cause you seem pretty interesting. *hugs* *gives brownies*

      • RE: badfic and farewell by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 16:38:00 UTC Link to this

        Thanks for the brownies, and if the Royal Fanfiction Academy is rebooted, I'd focus on FIMFiction.net, 4chan's /mlp/, and 8chan's /pone/.

    • Interesting thought. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-09 09:17:00 UTC Link to this

      The set of fanfic that has its own fanfic, or other fanart (or fansongs, in this case) has to be pretty small. Obviously there's the PPC and OFUM - and a lot of the other members of the broader Canon Protection Initiative - but we're weird. People write parodies of 'My Immortal' all the time, but that's different - it's not serious fanfic, it's, well, parody.

      There's always Girls Next Door, the fancomic of Roommates... the theme here seems definitely to be 'megacrossovers'.

      But as far as I'm aware, your MLP examples don't fit that theme (though I suppose 'Fallout: Equestria' comes close - it definitely has its own fandom, whether you call it good or bad). You're right - they're definitely different to the classic style of badfic.

      I wonder if this might be down to the general structure of the fandoms in question? LotR fandom, for instance, has always been (well, since the movies) primarily teenaged girls who have a crush on one of the characters. ;) The writer of 'Clbr__n' wasn't one of those - and that's not the sort of fic they tend to write - and so it hasn't gone 'mainstream'.

      MLP, from my understanding, has an older fanbase, and fans are typically male. I dunno... it seems like there's a key difference in there somewhere, but I don't know enough to spot it. Something to do with what brings people to like MLP, in contrast to something like Harry Potter? Perhaps either the nature of the show or the makeup of the fandom makes them more inclined to focus on dark-themed stuff (even if hideously overdone), whereas other hosts of LBs - LotR, HP, Redwall - have enough dark themes of their own that uber!dark!gruesome fanfics are just over the top and generally ignored.

      Honestly, I'm just rambling here.

      hS

      • Oh, and as for fanfics of fanfics... by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 17:07:00 UTC Link to this

        The MLP fandom is notorious for this. The crowning pinnacle of MLP legendary goodfic is Fallout:Equestria, and it's popular enough to trump Cupcakes, gaining tons of fanart, tons more of spinoff fanfics, and even an entire Fallout:Equestria general on /mlp/ that was one of the first generals to make the jump to /pone/, beating out both Anon in Equestria and Flutterrape, mentioned in my other reply to this comment. (For the record, there may be occasional Pinkamena threads, but never a Cupcakes general, and often, half the thread or more refers to the actually-canon depressed!Pinkie as Pinkamena instead of Cupcakes!Pinkie.)

        The problem here is that there's not much difference in theme between Fallout:Equestria and the legendary badfics Rainbow Factory and Cupcakes. In the two legendary badfics, it's a straight injection of grimdark into one part of MLP, while in Fallout:Equestria, the entire world is fused with the very, very grimdark Fallout universe. The difference between FO:E and the two legendary badfics is the execution- it's set a long time into the future, almost all of the canons are either dead and depicted as pretty much in character plus a few years, justified by maturity in the case of Spike, or justified by something going wrong in thier mind, like Trixie. (At least until the point I've read.) The ENTIRETY of the rest of the world is either Fallout canon modified to fit Equestria's world- and pretty well, I might add- and OCs. TONS AND TONS of OCs, allowing the author to create her own characters. The good thing there is that there are no sues.

        In contrast, the legendary badfics focus on the actual characters, and are exexuted badly. However, Sgt Sprinkles and Aurora Dawn got the same kind of fans that FO:E did because they kept the same theme, except not hiding behind Fallout.

        So yeah, they aren't teen girls with crushes on the characters, they're teen-to-young-adult guys with crushes on the characters (seriously, they call them "waifus" and "horsebandos" on /mlp/ and /pone/) and a taste for grimdark.

      • Re: Interesting thought. by Anonymous on 2014-10-10 16:36:00 UTC Link to this

        Well, I do believe that that's the difference. Many MLP fans do actually like grimdark things- in fact, reading Cupcakes, Rainbow Factory, and other MLP grimdark fanfiction actually brought me into the fandom.

        In addition, the pony fandom started in 4chan, where the fandom was and still is tolerant (ha ha) of such fanfic to the point of it being written there as greentext on a daily basis. The fact that Cupcakes's author is unknown and had to be claimed by Sgt. Sprinkles, and had horrible grammar, points to its being created originally in a comment box for /co/'s MLP general, for a pony thread on /b/, or, later, for /mlp/.

        Pattycakes (brought up elsewhere in this thread) probably has a similar genesis, as even now on both /mlp/ and /pone/ there's a "diaper general" for diaper/age regression fetishists, where ponies of various ages are posted wearing diapers and other baby gear in various states of use in various circumstances. In fact, a readthrough of it tells me it wouldn't be out of place posted in that general.

        Rainbow Factory, Cheerilee's Garden, and a few other grimdark fics tell me that the early-in-the-genesis-of-the-fandom Cupcakes set a theme for other grimdark fics to follow, and each one existing is bringing fans of such grimdark tales that would love for it to be canon, explaining Cupcakes as a canon hazard.

        However, a greater hazard to canon is /pone/ and /mlp/. While they are sticklers for SPaG- you learn to be when the only true content someone can make for a year or two is greentext or CYOA- nobody blinks an eye if a greentext takes a pony out of character, and they have no qualms about self inserts somehow appearing in Equestria. The pinnacle of both is "Flutterrape"- a general consisting of greentext where Fluttershy is thrown so out of character that the general has to define what the Flutterrape Fluttershy is supposed to do in the OP- and "Anon in Equestria"- a general about Anonymous, which is a self insert sue designed so that anyone reading the fic can simply say it's themselves, landing in Equestria via various means, including magic portals, suicide (yes), and magic teleportation spells gone wrong. Many greentexts don't die anymore when the thread dies either- they are capped (screenshot) or copied into Pastebin first.

        And we wonder why MLP is in so much canon danger.

        • Whoops, forgot the E at the end. (nm) (nm) by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 16:37:00 UTC Link to this
    • Sorry to see you go! by son_of_heaven176 on 2014-10-09 02:05:00 UTC Link to this

      But I can understand how Real Life can get in the way sometimes. Good luck in your other endeavors, and I hope to see you return!

      But going back to the main point of your post, I've heard that Rainbow Factory was based off a song, but for some reason, I haven't been able to find the song when I actually tried looking for it quite a while ago. Am I just looking in the wrong places, or is it more obscure than we've been led to believe?

      • Re: Sorry to see you go! by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 17:16:00 UTC Link to this

        I'm not sure how you couldn't find the song, WoodenToaster/Glaze is a pretty big artist. He's also known for Avast Fluttershy's Ass- a remix of Avast your Ass by Kitsune2)- and Beyond her Garden- which pretty much takes the record for the most remixed/covered song I've ever seen.

        You were looking in Youtube, right?

        • Actually... by son_of_heaven176 on 2014-10-10 18:49:00 UTC Link to this

          All I knew at the time was that "Rainbow Factory" was based off a song, not that it was a brony who wrote it. I looked for the song the way I look for any song when I know the lyrics but not the title: I looked up the lyrics in Google. IIRC, I ended up finding links to the fic and to riffs of it, but not to the song.

      • It's on YouTube. by SeaTurtle on 2014-10-09 02:44:00 UTC Link to this

        Here it is! Despite its totally sinister lyrics, it's actually pretty catchy.

        • Hmmm... by son_of_heaven176 on 2014-10-09 03:08:00 UTC Link to this

          Yeah, the lyrics are pretty "dark"--and I use quotes because it's pretty tame overall--but the Rainbow Factory fic takes the darkness up a whole 'nother level! One cannot say that the song directly led to the fic; some imagination definitely needed to be added.

          Either way, thanks for the link.

          • Re: Hmmm... by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 16:04:00 UTC Link to this

            You're right, both Rainbow Factory and Awoken (the Woodentoaster ones, Awoken being a collaboration with H8Seed) leave a lot to the imagination as to what actually happens in the factory, evidenced by the various music videos. Both of the most popular versions involve sucking the color out of adult ponies, and I've seen a third (possibly for a remix) showing the grinding up of dead bodies that have to be pulled out of coffins. However, it does go "In the Rainbow Factory, where not a single soul gets through..."

    • Take care! by SkarmorySilver on 2014-10-08 22:46:00 UTC Link to this

      Sorry to see you go, but if real life is giving you problems, then focus on those first. If you want to return to the PPC someday (and I hope you do), then I'll be waiting here on the Board.

      Until then, best of luck with your future endeavors! :)

      • Re: Take care! by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 16:41:00 UTC Link to this

        Yeah, I may return to the board someday. In the meantime I may pop in unannouced and comment on something, watch for the name "Anonymouse"...

    • Aww, bye Anonymouse! by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2014-10-08 20:35:00 UTC Link to this

      I hope your other problems and duties turn out well! Have fun!

      -Aila

      • Re: Aww, bye Anonymouse! by Anonymous on 2014-10-10 16:08:00 UTC Link to this

        I sure hope I will. You take care as well.

    • Good luck in the real world. by Iximaz on 2014-10-08 20:33:00 UTC Link to this

      And this is why I'm determined to enjoy my last year as a kid.

      *offers cake and hugs* You take care, okay? :')

      • Re: Good luck in the real world. by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 15:58:00 UTC Link to this

        Will do. Thanks for the cake :D

    • Sorry to see you go :( by James Shields on 2014-10-08 18:54:00 UTC Link to this

      I may not have been here for a long time either and may not know you very well, so I gueess I am sad because I won't get the chance to know you better, if that makes sense.

      But, still, I get that you have preceding matters in your life, but even if you can't write a spin-off, you could just hang out occasionally.

      So, MLP Legendary Badfics. I guess that based on fame, you could probably add Pattycakes to that list. It also hasn't reached canon break status yet, but it is pretty bad and fairly notorious.

      • Re: Sorry to see you go :( by Anonymouse on 2014-10-10 15:57:00 UTC Link to this

        Yeah, I've heard of Pattycakes, but if it's a legendary it's a more classic legendary without fans and fanart.

        • Yeah, it's more like Sweetapple Massacre in that regard. by James Shields on 2014-10-10 18:31:00 UTC Link to this

          It is more of a classic notorious Badfic. And good riddance, cause we certainly don't need more of Fluttermama running around. Though the disturbing amount of ageplay fics shows that there is at least an indirect fandom for it. * shudders *

  • Is anyone here good with making logos/renders? (nm) by Ekyl on 2014-10-08 17:53:00 UTC Link to this
    • Depends on how good you're looking for by Snowy the Sane Fangirl on 2014-10-12 21:08:00 UTC Link to this

      I'm tolerable with 3d modeling. However, my experience is almost entirely limited to characters. I've only made a couple of inanimate objects.

      It really depends a lot on what you want and what program it's to be done in. I use Autodesk Maya. If you're interested, here's the last 3d thing I did:

      Is this the sort of thing I could put on a resume?

      Also, just a heads up, I don't really have time for much these days, so you might be best advised to look elsewhere if you're in a hurry.

    • Um. . . possibly? by Rats on 2014-10-08 18:08:00 UTC Link to this

      Details? What would it be for, how complicated, etc. etc.?
      I feel like this may have been posted prematurely.

      • Game mod. by Ekyl on 2014-10-08 18:43:00 UTC Link to this

        I'm taking over a project from a friend, but while I can handle a lot of it on my own I could really use someone better than me at those areas. It wouldn't be anything hugely complicated, I'd just need things like company logos, maybe renders of trophies or title belts, etc. The game does use 3D renders of characters but only portraits, head and shoulders at most, so nothing someone decent with something like Daz3D couldn't do. Logos probably aren't too complicated either, we'd be looking at something like these images: http://imgur.com/is6GZUn,HvqPuEG,g8yEalq,iwxDst5,S9SMrDP,x9FJ57o,VQytYgk,AqjZkb9,m8OozbG,EL8dASg

        • hS tends to be pretty good at these things. Why not ask him? by son_of_heaven176 on 2014-10-10 16:23:00 UTC Link to this

          I don't know if he's familiar with the software that you mentioned, but if the Plort heraldry is any indication, he's pretty good at making logos. I've even had him help me with a few pictures.

          (and hS, if you're reading this, I'll have my decision made by Saturday.)

          • Uh. No thanks. by Huinesoron on 2014-10-10 16:39:00 UTC Link to this

            I have no experience with 3D rendering.

            hS

            • It's not all 3D renders, as shown in the example link. by Ekyl on 2014-10-10 17:00:00 UTC Link to this

              Fair enough, though, and I wouldn't want to bother you unnecessarily.

        • I see. . . by Rats on 2014-10-09 21:30:00 UTC Link to this

          I dunno if I'm the right person for that kind of thing, logos definitely aren't my specialty. Good luck, though!

          • Then it's a good thing I was addressing the whole Board. ;) (nm) by Ekyl on 2014-10-09 21:58:00 UTC Link to this
  • Free art! by Rats on 2014-10-10 03:14:00 UTC Link to this

    Hi! So I've recently had a lot of work and I get the feeling that this weekend I'm going to want to just sketch for a bit to unwind, especially since it's a long weekend.
    Ergo, free sketches! Or more specifically, headshot sketches, I suppose? Haha. . .

    Some notes:
    • I'm better at humanoids, though I can definitely give something more animalistic a shot. . .?
    • Max of two characters per person!
    • Depending on how I feel/how many requests I get it may or may not have some color slapped on, or some watercolor (because I've been trying to practice that).
    • Because I don't want to be totally swamped, it would be cool to reply before tomorrow eveningish, say. . .3 or 4 PM EST? So approximately 3:30 PM EST on Friday, October 9th. 8)

    If you want one, please supply me with either a pretty detailed written description or a reference image! Otherwise I will make it up or just skip it entirely, haha.

    If I don't get a lot, you can probably expect most of them by Sunday afternoon; otherwise it'll probably be Monday, and if not then, then next weekend. Whatever the case, I'll definitely get to everyone's!

    Here are examples, if you want an idea of what my style is like!
    8)
    So go forth and request!



    • Thanks guys! by Rats on 2014-10-11 02:23:00 UTC Link to this

      Thanks so much to everyone who requested, and also thanks for any compliments!! I'm probably gonna cap it off here, though if you happen to see this thread tomorrow and reeeaaaally want one, it's no big deal.
      Woohoo!

      • Further notes I forgot to add: Posting and Reposting by Rats on 2014-10-11 02:40:00 UTC Link to this

        To start: posting! What I will probably do is a lot on one page, so when I finish all of them I'll comment on this thread with a higher quality scan so you can crop and use what you please. However, so you don't have to wait for me to finish all of them, I'm going to reply specifically to your comment with a lower quality iPod photo so you can at least see them as I finish them.

        On reposting: you can basically do whatever you want with them! Websites, PPC wiki, etc., etc., are all fair game. I just ask that you don't somehow make money off of them (I doubt I'd have any trouble with that, but better safe than sorry) and some form of credit wherever you use it would be nice!

        That's all! Thanks again!!

    • Yes, please! by Neshomeh on 2014-10-10 19:00:00 UTC Link to this

      I am a sucker for fanart. I'm gonna have to put a gallery on my website at some point...

      Anyway, my requests:

      1. Human!Ilraen. I've only done one picture of him myself, and it's not very accurate. Also, I haven't managed to cobble together a decent description of his face in one place yet, which doesn't help. Lemme see... He should look like a combination of Jenni(1) (2), Nume(1) (2), and Ginger. Details I've bothered to mention in text: androgynous, large green eyes, fluffy ginger hair, thin mouth, willowy, but with filled-out chest and shoulders.

      2. Henry Robinson. He's five and is the Mpreg baby of Harry Potter by Severus Snape. He's not the best-looking kid—I imagine he's got kind of a long, thin face even at this age, and I dunno what age the nose will really come in, but that's something he has to look forward to. He's fairly happy, though, which helps. He also has green eyes, which has nothing to do with genetics. His hair is black, and I don't have a solid idea of the style, just that it's thin and therefore difficult to control and prone to static.

      Thank you!

      ~Neshomeh

    • !hoO by SeaTurtle on 2014-10-10 17:01:00 UTC Link to this

      ...wait, what?

      If it's not too late, I'd like to request a mugshot of Harris Frost and Tomoko Kogi of the DoI. Since neither of them have a proper wiki page to themselves (though Harris has a TekTek avatar on the Wiki), I'll just post a description of them here.

      Harris Frost

      Caucasian male, blond hair, mop-top haircut (think Beatles). Brown eyes, button nose. Normal build. He's got a baby-face, thus making him look like a young teenager when he actually is 19. Usually wears white dress shirts with a black vest, black necktie, and black trousers.


      Tomoko Kogi

      Japanese female, shoulder-length black hair with straight bangs, usually worn in a ponytail. 20 years old. Brown eyes, normal nose. Athletic build and quite tall to boot: 1.8 metres (about 6'). Her face almost always has a grin plastered onto it. Exclusively wears black t-shirts and black jeans/sweatpants (depending if she's going to hit the gym or not).


      Thanks in advance!

    • Penry! by son_of_heaven176 on 2014-10-10 16:20:00 UTC Link to this

      (I hope SOMEONE gets that reference!)

      Well, I hope it's not too late for me to give a request, being that it's October 10 as I type this.

      Either way, allow me to break the pattern of PPC-Agent requests; I would like a drawing of one of the characters from my Pokemon/Bakugan crossover, please.

      Here is a description:
      Princess Regent Xenia looked younger than her forty-three years. She was fair-skinned, with blue eyes and flowing cyan hair that reached halfway down her back. A pair of rope braids went around the sides of her head. She was five-foot-nine and currently wore an elegant cyan dress over a golden bodice. The dress had flecks of silver in it that sparkled in the sunlight, matching the silver tiara on her head.

      To give some points of reference, she is supposed to be the sister of King Zenoheld, (the figure in the center of this picture and the aunt of Prince Hydron (the figure on the left).

    • One more OOH! by Iximaz on 2014-10-10 14:50:00 UTC Link to this

      I'm putting in a request for Rina and future partner Zeb! Rina's description is on the Wiki (http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Rina_Dives), but Zeb is not. Obviously. Aaand I'm rambling. Shut up, me.

      Okay! Zeb, in human form, is about a head taller than Rina, though he looks even taller because his dark blue hair is so spiked up. Think like a Luxray from Pokémon. He wears a black leather jacket, unzipped over a yellow t-shirt, with the DMS flash patch on the jacket's right shoulder. He's very slender and gangly. His skin resembles that of an Asian/Caucasian mix and his eyes are an orangeish-yellow.

      *sits back with a silly grin to wait*

    • Ooh! by Huinesoron on 2014-10-10 09:17:00 UTC Link to this

      (What? All the cool kids were saying it)

      I may be fairly predictable, but... can you do Kaitlyn and Selene? They both have pictures on their bios, but here's a few extra notes:

      -Kaitlyn is based on the same person as Constance, (ie, Boarder!Kaitlyn), so you can use the Constance picture as an extra reference. She's rather more cheerful, though. And shorter, though I doubt that'll get into headshots... and her hair tends to curl. Actually, this might be the best 'Kaitlyn' reference (other than her bio picture).

      -Selene is... basically that image, except that image is rubbish. So's her other picture. Um. The picture of Serenity on there is pretty good, though Selene tends more towards 'black leather coat' than corsetry.

      Basically, she's a tall, thin Chinese woman with long, straight black hair. Since she's a vampire, she has mildly pointed canines, and a red hint to her eyes (which can just be plain red if you like, and if you're colouring). She currently has a steampunk device on the left side of her face, described as 'a tangle of copper pipes and brass cogs', that makes her look kind of like a Steampunk Borg.

      Did that make any sense? I really need to make Sel a proper bio image one of these days...

      And: I like your style. It's giving me a definite Art Nouveau feel, with the curves and naturalistic shapes - the agents' hair, the framing on the colour image. Nice stuff.

      hS

      • Providing me with Real Life Pictures was the best thing ever by Rats on 2014-11-01 22:04:00 UTC Link to this





        You linked real-life pictures of people they were inspired by so I went a little more towards realism with these! So much fun. To be quite honest, I didn't see the steampunk device thing until just now, when I was typing this up, so I attempted to add it with colored pencil. . . and then realized that I put it on the wrong side of her face. Whoops.
        So here's the I Tried image:



        Comparing my art to Art Nouveau was the highest compliment you could pay, honestly- I LOVE that style and I've probably been trying to emulate it subconsciously for ages now, so thank you so much!!!
        I hope you like!

        • These look beautiful! (nm) by Iximaz on 2014-11-12 00:04:00 UTC Link to this
        • Oh, nice. by Huinesoron on 2014-11-07 10:54:00 UTC Link to this

          I particularly like Kaitlyn; that's definitely going on her Wiki page. Selene I like... pretty much except for her mouth; I'm not sure what's bothering me about it, though. Possibly the fact that she seems to be poking her tongue out? I'm guessing that's blood on her teeth? I really like her hair - though I still prefer Kaitlyn's. ;)

          I know it's been a few days since you posted these; I only checked now because I remembered that I'd not seen any. If you get the rest of the requests done, you might be best to post them in a new thread.

          And: thanks!

          hS

    • Ooh! by KittyEden on 2014-10-10 04:35:00 UTC Link to this

      Could you draw Kitty and Kay?

      There's a picture for each of them at the beginning of their profiles...

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qnQtt78iOx7X4LzvF-jP9HQJgAyWsiMRJtZbo-56ioQ/edit?usp=sharing

      • Re: Ooh! by Rats on 2014-10-20 02:57:00 UTC Link to this


        Kay came out a lil funny looking? I don't know why. I might redo that one.
        Thanks for requesting!

        • Maybe it's... by Neshomeh on 2014-10-20 04:30:00 UTC Link to this

          The rather blue shadows? Or... hm. I was thinking it's pretty low-contrast, and Kay seems to have light eyes, but that side of the image is a bit darker than the other, so that might be messing with it. ... Also, my laptop screen is pretty terrible, so I shouldn't even try to comment on issues of color from here. >.>

          Could be that the features are a bit pinched, though?

          Anyway, I don't mean to pick on you. I like your work, and as someone else said, I'm looking forward to seeing my characters. I know I'm last in line, and I shall be patient. ^_^

          ~Neshomeh, who has zero—actually, make that negative room to complain about waiting for art. >.>

        • Maybe it's the mouth? by Iximaz on 2014-10-20 03:11:00 UTC Link to this

          *shrug* I still think they look great! These are just making me more excited to see mine. ;)

          Kitty? What's your opinion?

    • Ooh. by Desdendelle on 2014-10-10 03:59:00 UTC Link to this

      Very nice. I'm resisting the urge to use too many smilies right now.
      Can you please draw Agent!Des and the Librarian?
      You can find a description of the Librarian at the beginning of this mission and a description and a sketch of him here in the wiki; Des is described in his page. He's also described thus (from an elf's point of view):
      That someone was human, male, and slightly shorter than the 1.8-metres tall elf. He sported a messy, if short, reddish-brown goatee and moustache and short brown hair, and was currently wearing black pants with lots of pockets and a green shirt. He had some weird thing on his face – a thin frame that held two pieces of glass near his eyes.

      • Updates + The Librarian and Des! by Rats on 2014-10-19 04:44:00 UTC Link to this

        This is still happening! Everything happened All At Once and it was terrible and awful.
        I have prelim sketches and some basic watercolor down for most of them and I'll slowly be putting up the finished ones! Better late than never, I suppose, haha. . .!

        So! Desdendelle! I. . . could not find a description of the Librarian's colors? So I took this opportunity to practice grayscale. Whoops.




        Both photos are slightly tilted and the lighting isn't the best; sorry about that. I'll be putting up higher quality ones when I'm done with all of them. u______u; This is just kind of a glimpse, I guess?
        But thank you so much for requesting!!!

        • What DawnFire said! by Iximaz on 2014-10-20 03:03:00 UTC Link to this

          The best I'm able to do is cartoons. I can't comment on how well they match Des' idea of what they look like, but they look spot-on to my headcanon. ;)

        • I'm obviously not Desdendelle, but these look awesome. by DawnFire on 2014-10-19 22:15:00 UTC Link to this

          Also, I think this is the second 'Rats does art' post where I've missed my chance to actually request art. I should check the Board more frequently.

          (Holidays and school, though. Oh well. Maybe next time :) This is definitely inspiring me to do some watercolor, though.)

          ~DF

          • The second? by Rats on 2014-10-20 02:59:00 UTC Link to this

            I have no idea when the first might have been. Whoops.
            Fear not, more will occur in the future, probably over my own school breaks, haha!

            Watercolors are tricky. But fun! Glad to inspire!

            • Hm... by DawnFire on 2014-10-20 03:18:00 UTC Link to this

              It's entirely possible that the first was someone else; I could easily have seen two similar art posts spaced a ways apart and just assumed that since you did this one you also did the first one. Come to think of it, the drawing style was kind of different. Oh well.

              Glad to hear there will be more! In the meantime, I'll continue my own (very slow) attempts at drawing my own characters...

              Watercolors, though. Haven't tried using them for portraits in ages. I think it could be fun, though; it was definitely fun the last time!

              ~DF

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