(It's called To Be or Not To Be by Ryan North and it's extremely tongue-in-cheek and awesome.)
I was wondering, since a couple years ago we were talking about different mission formats... what if I wrote a CYOA PPC Mission?
I'm going to give it a try with this Lemmings story. If there are any objections or ideas or advice that you guys can give me, I'll be glad to hear it.
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I've been reading the Choose Your Own Adventure Hamlet. by
on 2014-04-01 01:50:00 UTC
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*Scrubs hands thoroughly* by
on 2014-04-02 03:21:00 UTC
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Hmmm... how would you set up the choice, with links or something?
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Right now I just have the parts numbered... by
on 2014-04-02 03:23:00 UTC
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...and for people to scroll up and down to them, but I can see how that'd be a problem.
If I have the time I'd make it clickable. Or maybe someone else on here who's better at making clickable things can make it clickable for me. -
I would love to read that! by
on 2014-04-01 05:59:00 UTC
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It'll probably take a while to get it into good shape, but I'm sure it will be worth it in the long run. The best part is, you only need to have one canon ending (or a few, maybe), so you can play with all kinds of weird, this-never-really-happened madness in the other endings!
(Man, are Sues still doing that? Getting "killed" in world one and reappearing in Middle-earth and romancing Legolas? Aren't they, like . . . bored yet?) -
I'm working on the Sue's POV right now. by
on 2014-04-01 23:11:00 UTC
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One of her endings is:
The next day, you turn on the news to hear that Kate and Sean’s friend Jason died in a drunk driving accident. Sean was at the wheel, and he was heavily injured in the crash as well.
Kate and Jason’s families press charges. Sean is convicted of his DUI and vehicular manslaughter, and faces several years in prison as well as the revocation of his athletic scholarship to the University of Miami. You knew you shouldn’t have let him get into that car drunk, yet at the same time you can’t help but feel like you’ve escaped a greater fate. That suspicious sense that you’re being watched has dropped from your shoulders entirely.
Weighed down with the grief of what has happened, you visit his cell and return his promise ring. He cries a little, but you’ve figured out by now that sometimes your first love isn’t always going to be your true love. Besides, you’ve got great plans for your future, and you don’t want him stopping you.
You go up north to play soccer and study English at Penn State. You meet a very pretty girl with long blonde hair named Laurel Greenleaf, and the two of you move to Canada, get married, and live happily ever after*.
THE END.
(*Well, as happily ever after as it gets with bills to pay and a cat that keeps on hogging the broken radiator. But it’s much better than the fates you might’ve had in other lives, no?)
And there's going to be another one of hers that I'm going to use as the ending for just about every time you play as the Sue and make a decision that gives her character development.
Basically, I'm going to try and retell the Suefic with the Urple Choices (showing so many other things that the Sue could've done with her story that wouldn't have been as Canon-breaking), and the PPC Mission with the Sunflower Yellow Choices. Then everything else can be alternate. -
Fantastic! by
on 2014-04-02 00:01:00 UTC
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I love throwing the Sue back into the real world to experience mundaneness. Reminds me of what I did with the Holmes Sue from my second mission. And props on the not-heteronormative relationship there, too.
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I've heard good things about that, but I can't remember them by
on 2014-04-01 04:36:00 UTC
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I do recall reading an interview that revealed Ophelia was a genius scientist and one of the playable characters in it because North, and I quote, "wanted her to be rad". That does sound pretty rad. A Shakespearean lady scientist, or possibly even a lady-scientist, fighting off political intrigue or royal sabotage or assassins lacing poison in everyone's food. I never read Hamlet, so I have conflicting ideas on what it is about. Pop cultural osmosis is occasionally less than helpful.
Well, the majority of choose-your-own-adventure books I read in my childhood had at least one ending that came completely out of nowhere, like a baseball diamond being overtaken by carnivorous moss or the playable character being abducted by aliens(I wish I could remember the title of the moss one, so that I could look it up online and show you that I am in no way joking about that), and a single page in the middle of the book that you could only get to by not following any of the paths and just opening the book to that page. Internet choose-your-own-adventure stories usually have the equivalent to the latter buried somewhere in the table of contents, either with a random number if the chapters are numbered or with an unassuming title if they have titles. Any way, I think both would be fun. Plus, the choose-your-own-adventure style means only one path would follow the formula, or possibly two or three since the PPC has a looser idea of what deviation from normal looks like. We could easily end this with Eledhwen fighting the clone of her evil clone on Elrond's rooftop, or the DIA misinterpreting a radio message someone randomly decided to send and going in to rescue them prematurely, or the Marquis de Sod temporarily re-entering active duty for some off-the-wall reason.
You know what would be fun? Completely running with that, and having the opportunity to do something crazy on every page. You could stick to the plan and take charges, you could sneak off to go pick up some new hats that the Sue spawned through poor use of a metaphor, ooor you could steal the Sue's car and drive it into a swimming pool just to see how the words would react when the Sue has to drive it next.
The Sue "Rossania the Yellow Istari" has advanced further into Rivendell. What do you do?
* Follow her
* See if you can nick some of those peanut butter sandwiches from Lindir before the canon removes them
* Tackle the Sue's ex-bodyguard
* Seduce Lindir
* Recruit the Sue's ex-bodyguard
* Tackle Lindir
That is probably too many options. The mission would take forever to write if there were more than four per page.
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on 2014-04-01 21:03:00 UTC
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-lesser-known Canon character being temporarily recruited to work with an Agent in a continuum that isn't their own.
-mission as detective noir piece (I'm considering doing that, for a Sherlock mission)
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You've read 'Brony Hero of Equestria,' haven't you? by
on 2014-04-01 05:28:00 UTC
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I could tell by the use of 'Seduce Lindir.' For those who have never read Brony Hero of Equestria, a reoccurring joke within the story is that you can (try to) seduce anypony you meet. They end with...Interesting results.
Actually, if it were me, I would not have the main characters be any established agents. If they were previously established, then as a reader, I feel the need to use what I know of the character to influence my actions, rather then what I would do/be funny. Rather, I would have the agent be one of a few things.
1. A recruited bit character. This way, jokes could be made on how the agent has no personality, and so can do anything the reader wants. A literal blank slate.
2. A Crash Dummy that came to life. This would allow for heavy lamp shading, as a living You crash dummy is supposed to act as the character in a second-person fic. Now a CYOA story makes more sense, as a living You dummy has to have a narrative involving second person surrounding it.
3. Both. After all, agents need a partner. In this case, it would make sense for the living You dummy to be the main character, while the bit character is your partner. Occasionally, a prompt can occur that says "Be The Other Guy," and you can take the role of the partner for a little bit. You can even show this switch further by having the partner's sections in first person instead of second."
Oh, I have an idea for the agent's names! The sentient dummy is, obviously, You. The bit character is Mia. Probably pronounced me-a.
Funny as it can be, you need to have some non-insane options for a few pages. Sure, what happens can be insane, but you need a bit of buildup before you can start licking Lindir's face. Just saying.
Also, that "You can only get hear by cheating" page? I don't like it, but if it does exist, there had better be jokes about plotholes and some serious fourth-wall breaking. -
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my own Agents. Because we all know they'd only do certain things and that'd influence the choices.
Back to the drawing board! Can I steal You (Yue? because heck knows my Chinese name gets mispronounced all the time) and Mia? -
Chinese name? (nm) by
on 2014-04-01 14:37:00 UTC
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Yeah. by
on 2014-04-01 20:54:00 UTC
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Yue. It's pronounced a bit more like the solfege note "re", but with a but of a "oo" sound in between.
However, according to my sources in ATLA it's pronounced "you-ay", and a lot of people in my childhood have pronounced it "you". So yeah. -
Go for it! by
on 2014-04-01 06:47:00 UTC
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I suggested them for your use anyway. Do with them as you wish.
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I was probably a little too optimistic with some of that. by
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Now that I have a few minutes to think, I can see how having too many branches and wild actions might either throw people off or derail proper story progression. So, maybe only have the crazier choices available at certain junctions or when they would be funniest or tell the most interesting story. Then, restrict the choice selections a little more than usual during crucial decisions so that it won't start getting more than the prescribed one or two off-the-wall endings. It's a choose-your-own-adventure, not a tabletop game. There will have to be limits on individual input, or nothing will make sense after a while.
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Go for it, but... by
on 2014-04-01 04:11:00 UTC
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I would recommend that you make sure you check up on how, exactly, to write a CYOA. It's way, WAY harder then it looks. When done right, it's hilarious. When done wrong, it makes people beyond frustrated. I find these series of reviews for a CYOA fanfic extraordinarily helpful as a check for how people will receive the story. Now, the fanfic is based on My Little Pony, but the reviews are more based on CYOA as a genre, so it should still be helpful.
Also, speaking of reviews. You all may have noticed a lack of review on the PPC:TOS from me. Well, as I said, things have been a little hectic recently. I'm hoping to get it out soon, but I am not going to give any form of time frame. At all. Let's just say, some time before I quit the PPC forever. -
Oh, I should probably add part two. by
on 2014-04-01 05:29:00 UTC
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Here it is. Sorry about that.
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After many months of work... by
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I am proud to present an animated version of my (Un)Intelligence series! ...or a part of it, at any rate. I'm working on the other episodes.
Over the past year, I've toiled over this project, hoping to make something that the PPC has never had before (I think): a story in animated format. It's been painstaking work and at times even my computer seemed opposed to the task-- if a catastrophic hard drive failure is any indicator of a machine's will. Nevertheless, two episodes are done and more are on the way.
The two episodes have been uploaded to YouTube for your viewing pleasure.
Episode 1
APRIL FOOLS!
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Ooh, wonderful! by
on 2014-04-02 05:38:00 UTC
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No, seriously, that was great. I really enjoyed it, and while I think that it could have been longer, it was still utterly fantastic. I know I'm not good at giving anything but praise, but bear with me. Please, do. And I really liked it.
.....Please be filled, preview box?
GAH! You disappointed me so much! I was looking at that links, getting all anticipated, and then, well... I'm glad I paused the videos the moment they came on to give them time to load. And then noticed the titles. Gleh.
But, off topic a bit, but how are those audio projects that got talked about a few months ago coming? I know there were plans to do something with the Continuity Council material, and I'm pretty sure Lily's Night Vale fusion was going to have something happen to it... I dunno. It's just that, like doctorlit, I would love to have something PPC to listen to on bus rides and whatnot.
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Well, there is something. by
on 2014-04-02 12:49:00 UTC
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The PPC Radio Playes are still available online: Episode I and Episode II.
The Continuity Council didn't happen because the only person interested in recording anything was me, so. It's probably more fun as a written thing anyway.
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..you make me want to record a Reader monologue or something by
on 2014-04-02 16:13:00 UTC
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Admittedly, we don't share an accent, but there could be some sort of disclaimer along the lines of 'the Reader has a faint Welsh accent and I don't, sorry'. Of course, first I'd have to actually write something for her to monologue...
Thing is, though, I wouldn't really be able to put in sound effects and music and so on...I mean, unless I purposefully played it in the background as I recorded, which is also an option. I just don't have sound-editing technology, and don't really feel like getting any just now, either.
I do have several vague ideas about people wandering around the PPC and singing, and have the intention of possibly eventually writing them and actually recording the songs, but...well, that's not a current project. More of a current idea. It is still an idea, though...
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Ooh, forgot about those! Thanks! (nm) by
on 2014-04-02 15:54:00 UTC
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I didn't know you were working on this! by
on 2014-04-02 03:22:00 UTC
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I have to say, job well done. It was quite moving. :D
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This is amazing! by
on 2014-04-01 19:03:00 UTC
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I'm so excited about it! I can't wait to see the rest of the episodes! As others have pointed out, the animation was suburb, and the sound quality was unusually good! I admire your perseverance in continuing to work on this masterpiece despite the manifold elements of opposition. Please continue it soon! That cliffhanger at the end! Episode Three must arrive with haste!
Is that enough text to fill up the preview? I think so.
Bwahahahahahhaaha!
Seriously, that was funny. I got so incredibly excited and then I clicked on the first link and... yeah, you know the rest. Good joke!
Although someone should really do that, an animated PPC story. That would be cool. Incredibly cool. Hmmmm...
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on 2014-04-01 16:52:00 UTC
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This was so great. Who did you get to all the different voices? I'm assuming the sopranos didn't come from your throat. I like the little page-turning effect between scenes, to make it feel like I was reading WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS
You have no idea how excited I got when I read this post! I went and made breakfast so I could watch your creation while I ate and NOW ALL MY HOPES HAVE BEEN CRUELLY SHATTERED
Someone needs to really do this. Right now. Someone get on a Flash editor or whatever and animate out one of your PPC stories. I want a PPC thing I can listen to in the car on the way to work. I DEMAND FREE ENTERTAINMENT -
For some reason... by
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I don't think I'm getting the right videos when I click on the links- one was uploaded in 2010, the other in 2009. I gather from the thread that one of them is an April Fool's prank, but neither seem to be you videos. Am I wrong? :(
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Psst. (SPOILERS BELOW) by
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Now to keep anyone who only just clicked on your post from reading these juicy spoilers by making a very long sentence, though noticeably not one as long as I could possibly muster, in order to fill up the lines of preview text.
Is that all? Are you sure? Okay.
They're Internet memes. It's April Fool's day, and he did that on purpose. Just keep the joke going and put HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA on repeat. -
Some very nice work! by
on 2014-04-01 08:38:00 UTC
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I was impressed by the amount of little details you managed to fit in there. The sheer amount of work that must have gone into this... dang. Kudos to you. I dare say all the kudos. Every single one of them.
There were a few points that felt a bit odd or sluggish to me. 1:21 into Episode 2 was one such point. But other than that, I don't really have anything negative to say about these episodes. I look forward to your next installments.
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That is AWESOME! by
on 2014-04-01 07:43:00 UTC
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Seriously, the animation is so smooth! I thought I had seen some of the best Flash could do, but this is leaps and bounds ahead of that! While there are a few strange faces here and there, it is still professional quality animation. Seriously.
Say, you're a brony. Seeing what happened with JanAnimations, maybe you could take his place. Technically, the C&D only applies to him. Perhaps you could finish the Pony Rock Anthem animation in his stead.
Anyway, I'm getting off topic. These are some fantastic animations. I await the next instalment with... Eh, let's go with the 'baited breath' thing.
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That is amazing. by
on 2014-04-01 06:30:00 UTC
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The animation was splendid. I loved it! What programme did you make it in? How did you manage to animate Harris Frost's nose like that? You should be working for Disney!
I'm just going to go show this to my friends now.
(Ha, I would've fallen for it if one of the links didn't already show up as used, and I knew which one it was ;P Happy April Fool's Day!) -
Personally, I swear by Adobe Flash. by
on 2014-04-01 06:36:00 UTC
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As for Frost's nose, I just looked in the mirror long enough and it clicked.
((A pox on your internet history, Lily. I was planning this for ages.))
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What's your full title? by
on 2014-04-01 12:47:00 UTC
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For example, mine is-
Kitty Eden
Destroyer of Worlds
The Oncoming Storm
Knight of the Decagonic Table
Pink Tiger
Eater of the Ham-Jam Sandwich
Resident of Myra (City of light! City of magic!)
Unofficial PPC Viewpointer
Mistress of Insanity
Review Nazi
So what is yours? Try not to repeat anything that's been said.
[Totally unrelated- my newest Doctor Who fanfic is up- it's called Through the Vortex. I'd like reviews. As mentioned, I am a Nazi of them. My screen name on ff.net is TheBigCat. ]
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Oh, Christ, Not Her. =] (nm) by
on 2014-04-06 01:02:00 UTC
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The whole length. by
on 2014-04-04 18:26:00 UTC
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Lord of the Orcs under Bukit Kepayan,
Representative of Orcs under the Crocker Range,
Nominal servant of Morgoth,
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Your orcs were created by Betty Crocker? by
on 2014-04-04 18:56:00 UTC
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Kudos. Not everyone stands up to the overlard sea queen like that. Especially not if it involves liberating some of her workers and turning them into your workers. I'd ask where she got the orcs, but hey, Betty Crocker is a multiversal conqueror. She probably picked them up from some Tolkien-derived fantasy universe.
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Obviously not. by
on 2014-04-04 19:52:00 UTC
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocker_Range. It's a mountain range. bukit Kepayan should clue you in.
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I don't know what a Bukit Kepayan is. by
on 2014-04-04 23:30:00 UTC
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The Wikipedia article you linked didn't have anything about Bukit Kepayan, either. So, if that was the phrase that was supposed to key me in, I'm afraid I lack the context to understand it. I'm not even sure if it's a verb or a noun.
Also, the Betty Crocker thing was a joke. I had no idea what a Crocker Range was, and the only three Crockers I know about are the famous batterwitch(and in Homestuck, the leader of a species of alien trolls and the instigator of at least two apocalypses), a fairy-obsessed cartoon schoolteacher, and a railroad executive from the 1800s. I thought talking about Betty Crocker would be the best reference. Though, in retrospect, a Dark Lord who rescued his orcs from working at incredibly low wages on an old-timey railroad is also a pretty entertaining idea. -
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That would be the guy before me. Which isn't my ancestor. That would be very interesting, how orcs could escape railroad construction oppression, hire a ship, and sail off to Sabah. Orcs choose their own Dark Lord these days. I'm not sure if they like my son to inherit the titles they are dead.
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Lord of the Mst by
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Not sure if I have any others.
Maybe Blue Elf? or Eldar Luin if you prefer.
Smurf Elf?
I think that's it? Any of the older folk remember any others for me? :P
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Title, hmm? by
on 2014-04-03 20:07:00 UTC
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Title, hmm? Okay, here we go!
NotHimAgain
Knight of Equestria
TSAB Collaborator
Scrambler of Eggs
Resident of Cair Paravel
Would-Be PPC Writer
Madman with a Computer
ADHD Aspie
Plothole Magnet
I'm on Fanfiction too, but my fanfics so far have been somewhat mediocre, I'm embarrassed to say. My A:TLA fanfic Cosmic Repairs could use a LOT of constructive criticism, though. It would be greatly appreciated. Look me up as Resisting the Borg. -
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Magos Explorator 99Hedgehog
Shas'o T'au 99Hedgehog
Lord Inquisitor 99Hedgehog
Captain 99Hedgehog of the U.S.S. Argonaut
Ser 99Hedgehog the Well-Travelled
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My ostentatious titles by
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Ailayvn Sinyash
Maia Asyntha
She Who Stays Up Too Late Reading
The One With The Fleeting Obsessions
Worshipper of Books
She Who Wears Ankle-length Skirts and Cloaks Daily
Priestess of Fantasy
The One Who Cannot Shut Up
Endorser of Literature
Epic Procrastinator
She Who Has No Attention Sp-- ooh, shiny!
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Some of mine. by
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The Dragonwing Alchemist
Mr. Surprisingly Sane
The Phoenix Enforcer
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Re: What's your full title? by
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Ozzielot
Procrastinator
Experimentor
Dessert Maker
The Shy One
Observer of Internet Drama
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Titles... by
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Kitty of the Katties
Overlord of the Felines
Conqueror of Worlds
Potato Cannon Wielding Mistress
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My (pretentious) titles by
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Snowy Keene, Former Suethor
The Sane Fangirl,
The Dalek of Grammar
The Reader of Tales
The Waster of Time
Novice Parody Songwriter
Obsessive Obsessed Fan Poet
Nerd of the Rings
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Des' titles by
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He Who Drinks Tea, That Weird Guy, The Potted Plant. Off the top of my head.
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Leader of the Winterwood Rangers
Chronicler of the Hunt for Slorp
Knotter of the Red Strings of Fate
Creator of Alternate Universes
Bestower of the Lemming Repellent
Infiltrator of the Circle of Lemmings
Keeper of Too Many Fanfic Ideas with Not Enough Time to Write Them All
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The titles of one PoorCynic. by
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PoorCynic
Bachelor of Historical Arts
Master of Documentary Arts
Tablet Tyrant
Snark Fu 8th Degree Black Belt
ConCrit Enforcer
Member of the Fine Facial Hair Brotherhood
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Heh. Let's see... by
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SeaTurtle
Plebeian Dude
Sipper of TeaEarl Grey, hot
Writer of Lab Reports
Mental Mathlete
Videogame Crack Shot
Keeper of the Sanity Toucans
Aspiring Time Lord
Closet Brony
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Well, mine would be... by
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Herr König Wozzeck, The Angry Critic, the Writer of Tales, and Composer of the Court of Astoria the Great City of Cleveland Ohio (Soon to be Cincinnati) and Violist Emeritus of the Unformed String Quartet of Awesome.
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Title: by
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doctorlit
of Arizona, son of Tom
worshipper of tales
healer of books
snail-speed writer
hugger of goats
sweeper
thrall of to-do lists
Pokédex slave
chicken
living failure to socialize
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I've never given myself one, but...
Eatpraylove (Sarah)
Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Unova League Champion
Lurker Sublime
Grammar Fanatic ("Grammar Nazi" sounds so impolite)
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Title? by
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Oh, that's easy!
Iximaz, that crazy girl you know.
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I only need one title... by
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-Phobos, The Betraying Betrayer Who Betrays
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Lady Seychelles by
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Lover of superheroes, Hugger of Kittens, That Weird Tall Chick
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Badfic by
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- Avarfanawen by Alisha
My comment: Legolas adopts and raises an Adan foundling, and then falls fro her. Riiiiiiiight.
2. Naomi Atwater and the Sun Store > by Dill Pikkle reviews
AU. A girl rescued from Chameleon Tours joins the Doctor, and falls in love with Salamander. Can she reform him?
Doctor Who - Rated: T - English - Romance - Chapters: 5 - Words: 13,180 - Reviews: 24 - Favs: 11 - Follows: 10 - Updated: 15h ago - Published: Feb 19 - 2nd Doctor, Jamie M., Victoria W., OC
My comment: She does, in a very implausible way.
3. Heart of the Mountain by Anne the Author reviews
My name is Anniel, and i am Gandalf's apprentice. I was going on adventure with loods of dwafs and blibo, but sudenly, orks attacked and now i have to wizard! reed and revuew plz.
Hobbit - Rated: T - English - Adventure/Romance - Chapters: 3 - Words: 2,992 - Reviews: 9 - Favs: 1 - Follows: 1 - Updated: 2h ago - Published: Mar 31 - Gandalf, Thorin, Bilbo B., OC
My comment: ORCS kill Gandalf? And I'm Amandil.
4. No One Refuses Mi Amore Cadenza by Zamairiac reviews
Adam is a good friend of Princess Cadance, and has been for the past year. But when the Crystal Princess finds her request for snuggles denied, her mind breaks and she quickly kidnaps him for nefarious reasons. He never stood a chance.
Rated: T - English - Romance/Humor - Chapters: 1 - Words: 1,154 - Reviews: 2 - Favs: 3 - Follows: 1 - Published: 9h ago - [Princess Cadance/Princess Mi Amore Cadenza, OC] - Complete
My comment: +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot. +++
- Avarfanawen by Alisha
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I ws actually excited to see . . . by
on 2014-04-02 06:36:00 UTC
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. . . a Second Doctor badfic. The Ninth through Eleventh regenerations get most of the attention; seeing a Classic Who mission would have been fun.
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Number three could have been my first Sue by
on 2014-04-02 03:25:00 UTC
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... Of course, I was nine years old at the time and her name was Zara the Green and I really hadn't the foggiest idea of how LOTR worked and set the whole thing "in the west beyond the Lonely Mountain," and it's probably still hiding under my bed in one of my peace sign notebooks from the third grade. :D
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Praying number three's a trollfic (nm) by
on 2014-04-02 18:20:00 UTC
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My first sue was a canon replacement when I was nine by
on 2014-04-02 16:46:00 UTC
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It was either House (from House MD) becomes Hulk after Bruce falls into our world from the comics (exactly) or a slash fic between Foreman and House that was AWFUL.
Because I already knew what sues were and wanted to avoid making one. Yay me! *facedesk* -
0_o by
on 2014-04-02 03:55:00 UTC
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"In the west beyond the Lonely Mountain?" Lol, don't worry, lots of people do that. My second 'Sue grew up somewhere between the north of Harad and Mordor. Still haven't figured out where that is.
Out of curiosity, did it include the "loods of dwafs and blibo?" Or was it set in the War of the Ring?
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I'm still traumatized by the Sue who thought that... by
on 2014-04-02 16:08:00 UTC
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...one could sail East to get to Valinor. Completely confused. On the other hand, the author hadn't yet read the books when she wrote it, so it makes sense...but it's still completely weird to me.
(My first attempts to write in the LotR fandom were...interesting. The Elves were almost all blond, for one thing. Admittedly, it was a parody of sorts ((the story, not the blond Elves o.O)), but...well, it was definitely, er, an interesting exercise.)
Minis are generally handed out either by OFUs or after the fics they come from have been missioned. Assuming the mini you're talking about is from one of these badfics, I'm fairly sure the protocol is that you wait until it's been missioned. You could probably request it in advance, though :)
Also, hi! Not sure I welcomed you; I vaguely remember seeing your welcome thread, but it was a bit ago and I'm kind of school-swamped (and not in the 'Fred and George put a swamp in a corridor' way, either). So, hello, and welcome to the Board! Here, have two bars of Swiss Bleepolate and a pack of Gummyblee Lonely Mountains as a Welcome Gift!
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West from East by
on 2014-04-07 23:12:00 UTC
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Actually, you technically could, provided Arda was round (although I'm not quite sure about that), you had enough supplies/ good enough navigation to circumnavigate the planet, and knew exactly where to tack to turn around and head west.
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Bad geography... by
on 2014-04-02 19:32:00 UTC
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It's one of the few things that will get me to just not even try to read a story. The people who think you have to go through Fangorn to get to Minas Tirith from Amon Hen, or that there's this random mountain range north of Eregion (there is, if you go far enough, but the inane AN that said "it's my fanfic, so I do what I want" effectively convinced me that the author was unaware of this) are just annoying at best, and absolutely infuriating at worst. Maps of Middle-earth are not that hard to get ahold of, and they're generally a lot easier to read than the average modern road map.
And the movies made it clear that Valinor was West. I think... Actually, I don't know if it ever came up in the dialogue, but the credit song for RotK was called "Into the West."
Okay, so can I request in advance custody of the mini-Balrog "blibo" on the advent of this story being PPC'd? Do I just watch to see if the story is claimed and ask the claimer?
Hello! I don't think you did welcome me before, but now is cool too! Thanks. I know what you mean about the school, in fact I should probably stop this and go do school now. :P But first I will thank you for the lovely gifts. I'm sure they'll come in handy for when actual mountains are misplaced.
I think I heard somewhere that you live in Canada? How is it up there? Never been there, though I've wanted to. -
Tawaki Has Returned!! by
on 2014-04-01 23:16:00 UTC
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Traveling here from the Cancelli d'Argenti star system just to pull an April Fools Day prank (at least with the Naomi Atwater story) is truly a feat worthy of a were-penguin/Borg/Time Lord/PPC legend of sorts. (May I claim preemptive dibs on the Cadence fic? It'd make a good training mission for the unicorn agent I have in mind; short, sufficiently stupid, and set in her home 'verse.)
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Go ahead, help yourself. (nm) by
on 2014-04-02 17:06:00 UTC
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While you're here, Tawaki, by
on 2014-04-03 04:46:00 UTC
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I sent you an e-mail a while back about a couple of consistency problems in your old spin-off. Did you get it?
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In the immortal words of Derpy Hooves... by
on 2014-04-03 15:01:00 UTC
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Oops, my bad.
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Wondering about My Little Pony. by
on 2014-04-03 18:48:00 UTC
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Why do so many people like it? Also, it's a pleasure to meet you. I present to you an X-men jacket, and a plushie Nightcrawler
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Why do so many people like it? by
on 2014-04-03 19:32:00 UTC
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Do you want the long answer, or the short answer? Short answer: because it's a funny, well animated and cartoon, with great characters and a vibrant world with tremendous potential for exploration.
The long answer, however, may take a while. Instead of me going on a rant about the history of the fandom and the reasons why the show is amazing, I'll just leave a few links to things that may help you understand.
This is a piece from HotDiggedyDemon, the creator of the infamous PONY.MOV series, explaining (in a way) why he, and others, love this show.
This is another article that gets a little more to the point for why.
And this is a fan made documentary exploring the previous incarnations of the show, the modern show, the fandom, and how it all ties together. It's an hour long, but it is well worth your time to watch it.
However, the best advice for anybody wondering why is to just watch the show. I'm not going to be that guy who says that everybody who watches it must love it. The show is not for everybody, and it is far from perfect, but it is definitely one of the best cartoons airing today. I am also not going to say that you have to watch the entire series before you can pass judgement. I would say, give it five episodes, any order, two-parters only count as one. After you've seen five episodes, then you have a bit of a choice to make. Do you want to keep going, or is this show just not for you? Even if you decide it's not for you, hopefully you can see why so many people love this show.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or any other of the (many) pony fans on the board. We are more then happy to answer any questions you may have. -
I saw a little bit of it. by
on 2014-04-04 03:56:00 UTC
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I saw the two-parter where Shining Armour and the Princess got married. Parts of it I liked , but there were also parts that I didn't like. I didn't see any more, because at the time I was watching X-men cartoons and just didn't have the time.
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Ah, A Canterlot Wedding. by
on 2014-04-04 05:48:00 UTC
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I sorta like that episode, though Anthony C and Bronycurious kinda ruined it for me. Still, it has some awesome parts in it, and despite the plot holes, it can still be fun.
If you decide you want to further down the pony path, I have some episodes I could suggest for you. If you want. If you don't, just watch any of them in any order. However, you may want to watch Magical Mystery Cure before watching any episodes from Season Four. Something happens in that episode that make a main character undergo a rather dramatic change for the rest of the seres. Not that it affects the plot very often, mind you, but it's still important. -
Not now. by
on 2014-04-05 01:32:00 UTC
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Right now things I'm really interested in are superhero comics. If you got anything that you think I should check out, let me know, I'm looking for good X-men comics
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Does that mean that you got it? by
on 2014-04-03 15:15:00 UTC
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Sorry about the miscommunication, but does that "Oops, my bad", mean that you didn't get the e-mail, that you did get it and are acknowledging the problems I told you about, or that you've lost the ability to change anything in the original missions? I just want to make sure we're on the same page here.
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Oops, I should have replied; sorry. by
on 2014-04-03 15:19:00 UTC
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I fixed the Bionicle mission. I'm leaving the brackets in place in the interlude because I don't want to spoil the reveal in Ten Little Indians for any readers who haven't read it. It was Agatha Christie's character, not Jarre Jarre.
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Who The Kriff Is Jarre Jarre? (nm) by
on 2014-04-03 20:31:00 UTC
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The wiki is a good resource for these sorts of questions. by
on 2014-04-03 20:48:00 UTC
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Jarre Jarre is described here. She thought she was U.N. Owen, and so I'd thought that she was being referenced here, in one of Tawaki's interludes.
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Pain by
on 2014-04-01 23:04:00 UTC
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The third summary physically hurt me.
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"now I have to wizard" by
on 2014-04-01 22:24:00 UTC
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That phrase is hilarious.
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If you gotta wizard, you gotta wizard. (nm) by
on 2014-04-04 01:37:00 UTC
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But what if you've gotta wizzard? What then? (nm) by
on 2014-04-04 22:53:00 UTC
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It depends. by
on 2014-04-04 23:37:00 UTC
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Do you need to wizzard, or do you possess a wizzard? The answer to that question will determine who winds up holding the half-brick-in-a-sock, and how often you'll need to duck quickly and without sufficient warning.
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Wow... by
on 2014-04-01 21:59:00 UTC
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That first one sounds suspiciously like the plot of a certain badfic bearing the uncapitalized name of a certain elf prince...
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Re: Wow... by
on 2014-04-02 05:18:00 UTC
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And the third reminds me of My Immortal and it's Twilight equivalent.
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Funny you should mention that by
on 2014-04-02 11:39:00 UTC
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Someone once wrote a parody of My Immortal using the MLP characters- the title is My Little Immortal, if you want to go digging though the Pit to find it.
Anyway, Pinkamena Dark'ness Dementia Raven Pie was Ebony/Enoby/whatever, Shining Armor was Harry, and Sombra was Draco. Oh, and the vampire ponies drink Rainbows.
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GUYS! HASBRO DID A THING! by
on 2014-04-01 20:37:00 UTC
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AN AWESOME THING! SO AWESOME, I HAVE TO SPEAK IN ALL CAPS! IT'S THAT AWESOME!
WATCH THE EPIC HERE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-DDF0q68kw
Seriously, I don't care that it's April fools, this is amazing. Brony community, get on to this, now. Immediately. Make this an epic fan animation, fanfic, whatever. I want it. I need it. Now. -
So did the people who made Madoka Magica! by
on 2014-04-04 00:23:00 UTC
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Observe - the Madoka Live Action Movie Trailer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhXk6ILIoA
Ok, it's an April Fools joke, but it's also a bit more than that. It's a cross-promotional video between Madoka Rebellion Story and the Japanese idol group Nogizaka46, to promote the movie and the group's latest single. More information over here:
http://sgcafe.com/2014/04/idol-group-nogizaka46-appear-new-live-action-madoka-magica-blu-ray-dvd-tv-ad/
As far as I can tell, the order of characters in the picture at the bottom of the article is Madoka - Mami - Homura - Kyouko - Sayaka. -
Do all Japanese commericals run four sound layers at once? by
on 2014-04-04 02:29:00 UTC
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Ah, my poor ears. I don't know what to focus on, and it is driving me bonkers. Is that part of the joke?
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WHAT. by
on 2014-04-02 19:45:00 UTC
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That's all I can say. Despite the fact that it's an April Fools prank, it's just… what.
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I can work with this. Help me brainstorm! by
on 2014-04-02 07:46:00 UTC
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Ship:
The Celestia, Alicorn-class supercarrier
Built by the Faust Corporation at the Canterlot Orbital Docks.
Length: 770m
Beam: 80m
Propulsion: 1 Starswirl type FTL drive, 7 Lulamoon sublight drives
Speed: Maximum safe FTL speed 6c, maximum sublight speed 0.75c
Range: Unlimited distance
Power: Philomena antimatter reactor
Armour: 80mm forged titanium plating over vital areas, triple-hull configuration, Cadance-type shield generator
Armaments: Carrier-based space fighter wing (70 Dragonfire fighters), 12 H.O.O.F missile batteries, 24 point defence lasers, 1 Hexaphase-Elemental Harmonic Ion Cannon
Crew capacity: 5000 (includes ship crew, fighter pilots, support personnel) and 1 sentient Artificial Intelligence, "Celestia"
Autonomy: 7 months
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The Celestia is the flagship of the entire Equestrian space fleet. Despite being the biggest and most complicated ship in the entire fleet, the love and care of hundreds of engineers have kept the ship-- and the sentient AI named after it-- in tip-top shape over the years. The AI is without a doubt one of the biggest assets of the migrant fleet: its wisdom has guided the Equestrians along every step of their interstellar journey ever since they fled their doomed homeworld. The other main feature of the supercarrier is its Harmonic Ion Cannon-- a devastating anti-electronics weapon capable of taking out a target's subsystems without directly harming a living creature. When the ship is directly threatened, it can count on its wing of Dragonfire space fighters to deal with the situation.
Only two Alicorn-class starships were completed before the Great Evacuation: the Celestia and the Luna. Shortly after departure, the Luna's AI started behaving erratically, shutting down its communication channels, forcing her crew to board the escape pods and jettisoning them into space, and randomly arming and locking its weapons at the other warships in the fleet. A skirmish between the Luna and her sister ship ensued but before the Celestia could bring her Harmonic Ion Cannon to bear on the rogue ship, the Luna fled to warp. When the crew of the Luna was rescued, they reported that someone had sabotaged the AI by introducing a virus into the system. The culprit was never found.
If recent reports by the Celestia's elite Wonderbolt scouting squadron can be trusted, the Luna has been spotted several times within several light-years of the fleet. All attempts at hailing the ship have gone unanswered.
Crew
Celestia: the ship's sentient AI.
Spike: a rookie Dragonfire pilot.
Twilight Sparkle: Captain of the Celestia.
Applejack: The Celestia's Chief Engineer.
Rainbow Dash: A Dragonfire pilot and aspiring Wonderbolts member.
Pinkie Pie: The ship's Chief Steward.
Fluttershy: Chief Medical Officer on board the Celestia.
Rarity: The ship's Navigator.
Dr. Whooves: One of Equestria's greatest polymaths, maintains Celestia's mainframe.
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Sounds good... by
on 2014-04-03 19:48:00 UTC
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But wouldn't Applejack be in charge of the Celestia's agriculture plants? I feel that the pony's positions on the ship should still reflect their original Cutie Marks.
And, a word for the bad guys:
Nightmare Moon could either be the virus that corrupted the Luna, or the entity that introduced the virus to the system.
The Changelings… EVIL ALIEN PLAGUE MONSTERS. For some reason, there has to be at least one of these things for every sci-fi series ever.
Aaand Discord could be whatever caused the Great Evacuation in the first place. Some sort of evil entity? Not necessarily a drakonequus with chaos powers and a quirky sense of humor, but a full on malignant entity that is trying to destroy the Equestrians for some reason.
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What is this I don't even by
on 2014-04-01 22:55:00 UTC
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I feel like this is a fake shout-out to something, but I can't decide whether the something is Kirby or Star Trek or something else I don't know right now. There was too much echo for a thirty-second "trailer", and why'd they make the tail/tale pun if Not!Spike's human?
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Battlestar Galactica? by
on 2014-04-03 19:53:00 UTC
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The premise seems to be similar. People floating around in a spaceship, looking for a new home? I don't know much about Galactica, but it seems similar from what I can see.
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I think it's a Cowboy Bebop reference. by
on 2014-04-02 01:27:00 UTC
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The music sounds like something from that show, the main character of Cowboy Bebop was named Spike, and the general style of the video's narration was similar to that of the anime, so I think it's the best fit.
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A question regarding OFUs... by
on 2014-04-02 03:47:00 UTC
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I was wondering if it is okay to write fan fiction for an OFU that already exists. Because it's not quite like writing a different OFU. And the OFU I had in mind was OFUM, which hasn't been updated since 2005, and I've heard Miss Cam is gone from the internet. And even if she wasn't, I'd be too scared to ask her.
Anyway, perhaps explaining my motivations would be in order. What with the last part of The Hobbit coming out, I thought the characters would have something to say about that in the OFUM setting. It wouldn't be anything huge, just a one-shot or a two-shot or something. Or maybe I shouldn't write it. Maybe someone else should. But anyway, I think it should be done.
If anyone knows of a way to contact Miss Cam, maybe she could be imposed upon to write something? Probably not, but a girl can dream, right?
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She's already been contacted about this. by
on 2014-04-02 08:39:00 UTC
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And quite emphatically said that:
1) She doesn't want people to take over writing OFUM for her.
2) Borrowing OFUM characters for brief cameos in other stories are okay if used sparingly and credited to her. (for example, see my chapter on crossovers with The Hobbit at MBSFA. I'd link, but I need to go to bed)
3) She wants to write a Hobbit special; she's just really busy with the Once Upon a Time fandom. (Like, really busy. I get notifications from AO3 about her fics all the time.)
It would just create a lot of weird paperwork and whatnot if someone else takes over a pre-existing OFU. Just take a look at the original BSFA. I don't think they've ever recovered from the Course Coordinator handoff. -
Thanks! by
on 2014-04-02 18:56:00 UTC
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I understand why she wouldn't want other people to take over it, or even do smaller works that take place in it. I wouldn't either, if I wrote something like that.
Of course, to the second. Sometimes they appear in PPC stories, and I seem to recall a brief crossover with a different OFU.
It's awesome that she wants to do a Hobbit special, and I hope she does. Maybe I'll check out her OUAT fics. I didn't know that she did that, and I do watch the show.
Maybe I'm being air headed, but what's "BSFA?" (___ ___ Fanfiction Academy?)
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Baker Street. It's for Sherlock Holmes. by
on 2014-04-02 19:06:00 UTC
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MBSFA is the Modern Baker Street Fanfiction Academy, which is for BBC Sherlock.
I don't know anything about OFUR; I'm not as close to Laburnum as I am with Miss Cam, so yeah. -
OMG! by
on 2014-04-02 11:51:00 UTC
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Miss Cam writes in the OUAT fandom?! *swoons, then runs over to have a look*
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You'll be there a while. by
on 2014-04-02 19:07:00 UTC
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There's at least one fic of hers that is ungodly long. I keep on getting notifications for it. She ships Snow/Charming and that makes up a majority of her works in the fandom.
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An interlude has arrived! by
on 2014-04-02 05:34:00 UTC
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It's even in two parts!
Come one, come all, and find out what Agent T'Zar of DOGA has been up to in the past...wow, six years! Discover strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations, boldly go where no Boarder has gone before!
(cue Star Trek theme)
I've been working on this one for a while, actually, and it's finally been edited enough that it's ready to post. And so, in celebration of the completion of my first exam, behold the interlude! I'll add it to the "Latest Story Releases" box on the wiki after I've had some sleep, never fear...but now it's late, and I must cut my celebration somewhat short...and prepare for tomorrow's exam.
Ah well. It's been a lovely break.
Enjoy! And, to everyone else who's in essay/exam period, best of luck!
~DF
PS: Yes, I know, last year I wrote an April Fool's Day mission. This is nothing of the sort; I've been far too busy, and I gave my contribution of silliness in the Purim RP anyway.
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Ooh! by
on 2014-04-04 05:09:00 UTC
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This was very very funny. I liked it muchly. The first part was especially hilarious, and the interactions in part 2 were lovely and very partner-dynamic-y, and I'm sort of sleep-deprived, so apologies if this doesn't make sense. Still. Lovely.
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Review coming later, but... by
on 2014-04-02 09:41:00 UTC
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*puts on the Maudit Francophone hat*
There are some minor verb conjugation/spelling mistakes in the following section
“Karen, l’écrivaine m’a dit que le temps de votre retourne est arrivé.”
“Bien sur?” Jacques walked over and pulled Karen up. “Mais nous sommes arrivé il y a quelques minutes! Ce n’est pas juste.” He gave Dawn a soulful look; she glared in return.
“Tu as jeté de la farine sur moi, Bonnefoy, je ne suis pas heureuse.” Despite this, she accepted his help to get to her feet, and attempted to brush herself off.
“Omelette du fromage,” Karen put in, looking from one fellow French-speaking agent to the other. “Omelette du fromage? Omelette du fromage!”
I propose to correct it as follows:
“Karen, l’écrivaine m’a ditque le temps de votre retourne est arrivéqu'il est temps de partir.”
Transliterated directly from English, sentence is nonsensical.
“Bien sûr?” Jacques walked over and pulled Karen up. “Mais nous sommes arrivés il y a quelques minutes! Ce n’est pas juste.” He gave Dawn a soulful look; she glared in return.
The "u" needs a circumflex. Not quite sure why you put an interrogation mark after "Of course". That passé composé there needs a "s" at the end: the helping verb is "être".
“Tu as jeté de la farine sur moi, Bonnefoy. Je ne suis pas heureuse.” Despite this, she accepted his help to get to her feet, and attempted to brush herself off.
That comma made the sentence feel off, IMHO. Removing it makes the sentence flow better.
“Omelette au fromage,” Karen put in, looking from one fellow French-speaking agent to the other. “Omelette au fromage? Omelette au fromage!”
The original sentence read as "Omelet from cheese!" ...or was that supposed to be a Dexter's Laboratory reference? -
Review coming later, but... by
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*puts on the Maudit Francophone hat*
There are some minor verb conjugation/spelling mistakes in the following section
“Karen, l’écrivaine m’a dit que le temps de votre retourne est arrivé.”
“Bien sur?” Jacques walked over and pulled Karen up. “Mais nous sommes arrivé il y a quelques minutes! Ce n’est pas juste.” He gave Dawn a soulful look; she glared in return.
“Tu as jeté de la farine sur moi, Bonnefoy, je ne suis pas heureuse.” Despite this, she accepted his help to get to her feet, and attempted to brush herself off.
“Omelette du fromage,” Karen put in, looking from one fellow French-speaking agent to the other. “Omelette du fromage? Omelette du fromage!”
I propose to correct it as follows:
“Karen, l’écrivaine m’a ditque le temps de votre retourne est arrivéqu'il est temps de partir.”
Transliterated directly from English, sentence is nonsensical.
“Bien sûr?” Jacques walked over and pulled Karen up. “Mais nous sommes arrivés il y a quelques minutes! Ce n’est pas juste.” He gave Dawn a soulful look; she glared in return.
The "u" needs a circumflex. Not quite sure why you put an interrogation mark after "Of course". That passé composé there needs a "s" at the end: the helping verb is "être".
“Tu as jeté de la farine sur moi, Bonnefoy. Je ne suis pas heureuse.” Despite this, she accepted his help to get to her feet, and attempted to brush herself off.
That comma made the sentence feel off, IMHO. Removing it makes the sentence flow better.
“Omelette au fromage,” Karen put in, looking from one fellow French-speaking agent to the other. “Omelette au fromage? Omelette au fromage!”
The original sentence read as "Omelet from cheese!" ...or was that supposed to be a Dexter's Laboratory reference? -
Oh, and. by
on 2014-04-02 15:58:00 UTC
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I meant "bien sûr" to mean "really?", hence the question mark. I guess that's a mistranslation. How would an actual French person say that? ('That' being 'really?/seriously?' as a reaction to being told something they don't quite believe or just don't want to believe.)
(The annoying thing is that I know how to say that in Hebrew, Yiddish, and English, but French is apparently eluding me. Feels a bit ridiculous.)
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Arrgh, sorry for the late reply. by
on 2014-04-03 07:12:00 UTC
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Right-o. In Québecois French (which is quite different from France French, believe me), you can say "coudonc", "voyons donc" (sometimes abbreviated in its one-word corrupted form, pronounced "WEH-yon"), "est-ce que tu me niaises?" (are you kidding me), and the good old "hein?". Since those are all some pretty hardcore Québec-isms and Bonnefoy probably doesn't speak like a farmer, the safest replacement is probably "vraiment", the direct translation of "really".
Also responding to your other post, "Thank you again. I figured there would be some mistakes...I hope I didn't completely disgrace the name of Canadian French education? Two typos and an anglicism...I'll take it (and hope that they didn't show up on my exam!)"
Don't worry about your French being slightly off: it's a very tricky language to master. When you manage to pull it off however, it's beautiful to behold. -
Ah, yes...figures. by
on 2014-04-02 15:51:00 UTC
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Thank you very much :) I was pretty sure there was supposed to be an accent circumflex on 'bien sur', but it was late and spellcheck didn't highlight it...must be another word without the accent. And ach, accords, that keeps tripping me up lately. Very annoying.
I concur with the bit about the comma, and the anglicism mistake makes sense now that I'm seeing it.../sigh/ This is what happens when I write in French late at night and don't look things up properly. Thank you very much. I'll make the changes.
As for 'omelette du fromage', it was indeed a reference, but (as far as I'm aware) to Adventure Time. I know it from a hilarious Tumblr post about people ascribing meanings to the phrase that it...really doesn't have. The joke here is that Agent Karen pretty much only knows that one French phrase, and is feeling left out enough (or just silly enough) to use it.
...wait, bother, that may actually be a Dexter's Laboratory reference. Shows what I know about either show...or are they the same show? But yes, it's a reference. If anyone's sure where it comes from, please tell me.
Thank you again. I figured there would be some mistakes...I hope I didn't completely disgrace the name of Canadian French education? Two typos and an anglicism...I'll take it (and hope that they didn't show up on my exam!)
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Re: Ah, yes...figures. by
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I really want to see a Dexter's Laboratory/Adventure Time crossover now. The main characters have such contrasting views of reality, and it would be great seeing them interact. Jake and Dee Dee might get along, though. Also, I'd love to see how the magic-saturated land of Ooo would respond to mad science.
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After research, I now conclude that it's from Dexter's Lab. by
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I think the Omelette du fromage part was a reference. by
on 2014-04-02 14:56:00 UTC
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That being said I knew there was something off about the first part, but I wasn't Frenchy enough to correct. Woop.
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Well, I liked the first part. by
on 2014-04-02 09:17:00 UTC
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The second one was a little silly for my tastes, but the first half pegged the characters exactly right. I particularly liked the subtle way you integrated recent events, and the fact that you resisted doing anything, well, ridiculous.
:P :P :P
And welcome to DOGA. I think Agent Huinesoron's just down the hall.
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I'm dead. I'm dying. Of laughter. by
on 2014-04-02 08:48:00 UTC
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Bwahahahahahaha.
/laughs herself into an early grave
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Psst, Huinesoron. by
on 2014-04-02 08:35:00 UTC
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Just a heads up that your freewebs (that's the host right?) sites are down.
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On the subject, if EllipsisFlood is here anywhere, by
on 2014-04-02 13:35:00 UTC
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Some of your stories are missing from your site. I looked through the wiki's list, and while the only ones I could see were still gone were "Tri and a Half Force" and "A German Man in HQ, I am pretty that sure there was at least one more.
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... heads back down again? by
on 2014-04-02 09:05:00 UTC
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Looks like it may just have been a transient thing; I can't find anything that's currently down.
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BTW, hS by
on 2014-04-04 07:25:00 UTC
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I haven't completely forgotten about that co-write bit I was doing. I'm almost finished, honest!
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Good. ;) by
on 2014-04-04 09:04:00 UTC
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I haven't been chasing people because, to be honest, I haven't done a whole lot on it myself. But at some point I will need to start chasing - and writing - and posting, even!
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I think the confusion is . . . by
on 2014-04-02 16:38:00 UTC
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. . . that some of the wiki pages still link to the old, frozen "bonsaimallorn3" site instead of the newer GDoc. I've been fixing those where I come across them, but haven't really sat down to search them out systematically yet.
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Bother. by
on 2014-04-02 16:50:00 UTC
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I did try to weed them all out at one point, but I've written so much - apparently I simply failed to track it all down.
For anyone still looking for something of mine, it's all linked from the Webplex, and specifically from the PPC section.
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What about FanficWorld? by
on 2014-04-02 19:08:00 UTC
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Because I thought that was hosted by Webs and it wasn't cooperating when I tried to access it.
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Seems to be running at the moment. by
on 2014-04-02 20:12:00 UTC
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Was it not loading at all, or refusing to load some parts? Because the Fanvik Whirl is pretty heavy on the Javascript, and sometimes browsers decide they don't like that.
hS
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Should the Fellowship be aware of the PPC? by
on 2014-04-03 02:27:00 UTC
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It's just a thought that's been bugging me for awhile now. By far the fandom that has been PPC'd the most is LOTR. Plus the most common targets of the badfic writers are usally members.
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How does that happen, anyway? by
on 2014-04-03 20:07:00 UTC
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I've been thinking about this. Sure, some characters are omnipotent, and others are aware of the fourth wall (did they ever decide whether or not Pinkie Pie knows?), but how did Gaspode find out in the first place? Was he just there? And once the PPC knew about that, why didn't they decide to neuralize him? I had an idea for an agent getting in trouble for revealing the existence of the PPC to some ^Lyrical Nanoha^ characters, but I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure out why they wouldn't be able to neuralize them in that situation. I was thinking that it would be a one-off gag anyways.
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Re: How does that happen, anyway? by
on 2014-04-03 22:19:00 UTC
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I find it fun (or well, not fun for the characters, but interesting to us) when the characters have a brief spell of being in-character after exorcism while the agents are wrapping up the details. I think it can give a little chance to show what the characters would think of the fic if they were in-character.
This could be done with any character that a PPCer wanted to show the canon character's reaction to the PPC (assuming they weren't too traumatized by the fic to think about anything other than the fic), and still neuralize them at the end.
Indemaat's mission that had Murdock learning about the PPC was a good example of this, with Hannibal and Murdock becoming more in-character and helping the agents after they were taken out of the main Suefluence. Deception: Alex's Past It's a three-parter, so the relevant bits are further into the mission. -
What do you mean "be aware of"? by
on 2014-04-03 03:43:00 UTC
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There are a number of different calibers of "awareness", and most of them would actually be counter-productive to what the PPC tries to do. We protect the plot without forcing ourselves on it, in part because letting the canon characters know of the existence of the multiverse would alter the path of their story and in part because projecting oneself onto a world that was doing fine without you is what the Mary Sues do, and we don't want any part of that. That's why we neuralyze people, and why it's frowned upon for the PPC writers to introduce new characters with knowledge of the multiverse unless there's a good in-universe reason, i.e. the character in question is omniscient and would know about it anyway. It's not good for main characters to start expecting and recognizing PPC agents, or it runs the risk of Sueishness. It's one thing to team up temporarily with a canon character to drive off an intruding presence, and another entirely to start striking up friendships with people from other universes when said other people have their own narratives to attend to.
The "deja vu" idea is close to one of the passable types of awareness, where a few characters, such as BBC Sherlock, will gain limited knowledge after they have been fully replaced, restricted to the basics like knowing they've been separated from their world and shoved in a plothole before, and that someone fixed the problem when they experienced it last time. They do not gain full knowledge of the PPC(though Sherlock occasionally manages to deuce the scope of what it is and what is going on while he's still in the plothole) in part because the canon snapback will return them to their previous states and in part because they're neuralyzed to forget any information from accumulating. However, none of the Fellowship apply for that state. It would take a particular mindset, the sort of mind that can prodigiously analyze patterns and simultaneously allow for the most wild of possibilities to be accepted as potential reality, to apply for that state. Hence, BBC Sherlock.
Some of the Lord of the Rings characters have other states of awareness, with Gimli having a sort of OOC avoidance since the badfic writers tend to ignore him, and Elrond having an active OOC resistance thanks to his ring's protective magic(by that logic, Gandalf and Galdriel would have it as well, since they have the other rings in Elrond's set, but I don't think that's ever been addressed), but neither of those types give the user knowledge of the PPC. They just leave them aware that something strange is going on, and the characters begin to want no part in it despite being forced along in the wake of whatever is corrupting the canon. -
It was just a thought by
on 2014-04-03 03:56:00 UTC
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I thought it might be kind of heartwarming if a member of one of the PPC's most protected fandoms, just said thank you. If you don't like the idea that is fine.
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Well, that's a different thing. by
on 2014-04-03 04:09:00 UTC
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Before the canon snaps back and before they're neuralyzed, any character affected by the badfic would still remember it. They, especially the main focus of a badfic's intentions, would be especially aware of what they have just done and why their uncharacteristic behavior ended in those few moments(especially if they were around to watch the Sue-killing and thus can more easily connect the Sue's death to the fading of their OOC), and I can easily see one of the Fellowship expressing gratitude toward the PPC Agents who freed them from their slavish devotion to a malevolent interloper before they shift back to their canonical selves and the Agents have to make them forget all about their uncanon experiences.
I thought you were talking about just in general, having one of the Fellowship know about the PPC all the time. That wouldn't have been the best idea. -
Gaspode & Murdock by
on 2014-04-03 13:56:00 UTC
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Both characters know about the PPC... one is a minor character and a dog, the other is just crazy enough to be ignored and just sane enough to know it's not smart to go talking about the PPC. Either way, their knowledge doesn't affect their continuum.
Which is why they can keep their knowledge at all.
A mission involves removing the uncanon so that the world can reassert itself. When it does, the badfic--and the mission--literally never happened for anyone except the agents.
To remember the PPC agents would require characters to remember things that, from their world's perspective, never happened at all--an alternate, parasitic timeline. And they only do that when remembering such things doesn't affect their continuum.
Remembering the PPC is in character for Murdock; Gaspode knows lots of things that he shouldn't, and is ignored because nobody expects a talking dog.
Sherlock figures it out anew every time, because he's just that good.
Characters who expect there to be parallel universes, or who are even aware that they are fictional characters, would be especially likely to put two and two together. Most of them would lose that knowledge when their continuum snapped back.
But to actually maintain knowledge of the PPC would require that these characters could, in-character, know about an alternate timeline involving creatures from outside their world invading and being removed by a secret extradimensional organization. -
Deadpool? by
on 2014-04-03 17:44:00 UTC
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He knows he's a fictional character. He breaks the 4th wall constantly, he travels to other timelines and dimensions, he's crazy, and no one would believe him if he did talk about it.
Of course, I wouldn't want any of my agents anywhere near Deadpool. The guy is just too dangerous. And a Deadpool that knew about the PPC is a Deadpool that would probably try to find a way in to see how much 'fun' and profit could be had.
I like that some characters retain no knowledge, but figure it out every time. That's a very good way to think about it. -
Yeah, he'll probably find out eventually. by
on 2014-04-03 19:42:00 UTC
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And it will be trouble.
But let's try to postpone that as long as possible! Agents should tread very carefully around Deadpool and any other fourth-wall breakers.
At least the SEP field works with mind-readers and reality-benders, or every one of them would know about the PPC too. -
Come to think of it... by
on 2014-04-03 19:47:00 UTC
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the SEP field might hide agents from Deadpool simply by making them blend into all the other crazy stuff he's aware of. With that kind of awareness, the PPC is probably far from the most extreme thing he's ever experienced.
If he wanted to mess with other dimensions, he could. There are many other things he could get into, if he wanted to. It seems to me that he's staying in his own world more because he prefers it there, than because he can't get out until the PPC accidentally throws him a portal. In a superhero 'verse, there's plenty of reality-bending out there; if he wanted to leave, he would have. -
Actually, the way I see it... by
on 2014-04-03 20:24:00 UTC
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Most fourth wall breakers can see agents. However, this does not mean they know what's going on. Take, for example, Pinkie Pie. She has minor fourth wall breaking abilities (despite what the fandom will tell you) though she has definitely interacted with the wall before. A few aside glances, massing with the scenery, talking to the audience once or twice, you get the idea. She would be able to see through the SEP field, but not necessarily know who the agents are. To me, this is part of why the agents have to have disguises. They have to hide from those who can see them, beyond uncanon characters. Besides, even if she sees everything, learns what Mary Sues are, and has receved all of the knowledge of the multiverse because
Marvinan agent screwed up royally, all the agents have to do is show Pinkie the shiny party favor with the flashy light at the top.
But, that's just me. Obviously, if people insist that fourth wall breakers cannot know about the PPC at all, or be able to see agents at all, then that's fine. That's just my idea. -
If that's the case... by
on 2014-04-04 03:40:00 UTC
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Then Hamlet must be very aware of agents. Actually, come to think of it, are there even missions for Shakespeare's works? Is there even fanfic for Shakespeare's works?
Actually, no don't tell me. Tempting the Ironic Overpower there. I remember when I found out Bible fanfic was a thing. Ugh.
In response to the other response by Calista (cool-sounding name, by the way):
So basically what an SEP field does is makes the agents (or whatever it's protecting) the observer's absolute lowest priority? Like negative priority or something? I haven't quite wrapped my head around the SEP field yet. But what you seem to be saying is that the effect of the SEP field is that even if an agent is noticed, they still don't matter. Am I understanding this? And does the SEP have an effect on non-canons too, or just canons? -
Negative priority... good way of putting it. by
on 2014-04-04 20:06:00 UTC
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Anything else in the world is more relevant, anything else is more interesting. Like, when you're going shopping, do you notice a scuff mark on the grocery store floor? Probably not, because the store janitor's the one who needs to notice that, and you'd be silly to concern yourself with it. And if you do notice it, you might go, "Hmm, they need to clean here," and immediately forget it. It's like that, only stronger because the effect is Sufficiently Advanced Technology rather than your own brain judging something to be someone else's problem.
Hamlet... whoa. I hadn't thought of that. I wonder. The play's been performed in so many ways, from audio drama to live performance to movie adaptation. He does talk directly to the audience in some versions, but it can definitely be interpreted in ways that don't involve his being actually aware of the audience--like, he's just using it as a metaphor during his soliloquy; or else he's just self-centered enough to see himself as the center of the world's story. Plus, he's in the same "faking crazy but perhaps really crazy" category as Murdock, isn't he? But he's not nearly as nice a person to work with as Murdock is...
I guess it's up to the first person to write a mission there, and let's go with whatever makes the best story!
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The SEP field affects more or less everybody. by
on 2014-04-04 05:01:00 UTC
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It's external technology, from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy continuum, and operates by manipulating the subconscious thoughts of those looking at whatever is covered in the field, making any observed see whatever unusual object may be underneath it as Somebody Else's Problem. Even if they do see the agents, which may be less than likely because anyone from outside canon is shielded from the sight of every canon character by a passive effect that the continuum projects on its inhabitants, whoever sees them will just believe that the presence of two new faces in the crowd is nothing they should bother themselves about, and they'll quickly forget there was anything unusual at all.
So, more or less what you already thought. Whatever is under the field doesn't matter, even if some OC decides to look over and see what all of the shouting and bashing of heads against the nearby walls is all about. PPC Agents tend to make a scene when confronted with the atrocities of badfic. It's part of why the SEP Fields started being used in the first place. -
Normal operation exceptions by
on 2014-04-04 09:36:00 UTC
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Sues can see the agents though, because the agents ARE their problems. Also, the SEP fields work well, but if the agents act oddly and loudly enough, it can overide the SEP protection.
If a canon gets OOC enough to be nearing character replacement (the replacements are Sues and can see through it), the SEP works less well, which is why DBS and others that routinely deal with possible replacements often still wear a disguise in case it breaks down unexpectedly in a scene.
The SEP fields are probably the single most stable piece of PPC tech. I hadn't really thought in those terms until just now, but I can't think of anything less than a direct hit by a knife that has taken one out of normal operation. -
SEP fields function as they do in their home continuum. (nm) by
on 2014-04-04 19:54:00 UTC
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Let's go with "it depends" by
on 2014-04-03 22:44:00 UTC
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Depends on the character, that is. Depends on their abilities, their personalities, and their worlds.
I could buy Pinkie Pie being able to see the agents, but completely ignoring their presence because there's something shiny over there. The SEP field would, after all, make the agents very non-shiny, and even if Pinkie's attention ricochets all over the place and occasionally lands on the agents, they're just not interesting enough for her to notice them for long.
The SEP field makes the agents into irrelevant parts of the scenery. You could say it's a targeted induction of inattentional blindness.
The SEP field would be something that's most easily penetrated by someone who notices everything and considers nothing irrelevant. For example: A savant with a photographic memory, or a robot which records its surroundings in detail. But even these characters have to determine which things are relevant enough to be acted on, and which things are not. The SEP field puts the agents into the "not relevant enough to be acted on" category.
To actually be immune to an SEP field, a character would have to:
1. Process ALL the information coming in from their environment; nothing can be declared irrelevant (otherwise the agents are "irrelevant" and not noticed).
2. Be able to think quickly enough to process all the information in such detail (otherwise the character will only consciously notice the agents later on when it reviews the stored "footage".)
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There are some OOC-resistant canons. by
on 2014-04-03 03:19:00 UTC
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Namely, Galadriel, Elrond, and Gandalf. All three are highly intelligent, perceptive, very old, and wear rings of power.
They still go OOC--especially Elrond--but they fight against it. I would expect them to occasionally have the presence of mind to actively help the agents once they realize what is going on, because they are more resistant than the average canon, and catch on to things more quickly than the average person. They are all resistant to corruption and, more importantly, wise enough to know they are not immune.
Eru Ilúvatar, like all omniscient deities, is OOC-immune and knows about the PPC. He's probably the only one in Middle-earth who is always aware of the PPC's actions. Other canons, even very powerful ones, probably only get vague hunches that those frazzled people in the weird black uniforms are trustworthy. Perhaps PPC agents look foul and feel fair? :P -
So Galadriel and Gandalf do have confirmed OOC resistance? by
on 2014-04-03 03:46:00 UTC
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I thought so, but I hadn't been sure.
Can you remember if that was stated in a PPC story anywhere? That information sounds like something that would be good to link to on their wiki pages, if such a link exists. -
They should. by
on 2014-04-03 14:02:00 UTC
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Elrond's resistance comes from his Ring. They don't have any advantages he doesn't. It's just that they haven't been attacked nearly as much as he has. Gandalf often gets turned into a stupid old man, and Galadriel gets overlooked entirely.
By the way, an alternate-universe Boromir has joined the PPC as part of Team Phoenix, which is an experimental interdepartmental squad that comes from recruiting Sean Bean characters after their deaths (i.e., after their canons are done with them). They are copies, not the originals (the originals are still in their continua) but for all practical purposes, they keep their personalities, memories, etc.
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Exuse me, bad grammer by
on 2014-04-03 02:29:00 UTC
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Maybe they might have a weird feeling about it, like deja vu
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New Doc and Vania mission, DTO style! by
on 2014-04-03 06:34:00 UTC
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So I'm finally breaking that "two missions curse!" This is actually the second mission I wrote, way back in 2011, even though it takes place after my previous mission. This mission takes place in Epic Mickey and I would rate it maybe just slightly above G, pretty tame. (As far as I can tell, no one else in the PPC cares about EM, but whatever. This is my spin-off.)
This mission incorporates a few things from back while I was writing it:
A) A general movement to avoid violent killing in missions, which had kind of taken over PPC narratives at the time.
B) A writing challenge--started by JulyFlame, I believe--to show characters having an argument and then resolving it. The argument appears in this mission; the resolution is going to be shown in an interlude that follows this. (At the rate I write, start watching for that in 2016.)
C) The Poison Joke RP started by Laburnum and kitsune106.That can be read here:Unfortunately, I just discovered that RP has fallen off the Board. Um . . . did anyone save that? >_> (The search only goes back to 2012 now. I was just looking at 2008 posts while researching minis! What happened?)
Anyway, the actual mission: http://doctorlit.dreamwidth.org/3603.html
I'm a little more unsure of this mission. It doesn't feel as strong to me as my others, but my betas seemed to enjoy it, so I'm interested to hear how entertaining folks find it.
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A much-delayed review. by
on 2014-04-16 02:48:00 UTC
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First off, let me take off my cap to you (pretend I'm wearing a cap for the purpose of this figure of speech). It's hard to break out of the formula of "snark at the Sue, rage, kill the Sue" that so prevalent in the PPC. But this mission did it in a way that didn't seem forced or out of place. So kudos to you.
I also liked the emphasis on the cartoon nature of the disguises. The scene where Doc gets clunked by the bombs and gets the little flock of books flying around his head is a good example. Very Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It's also nice to be reminded that the disguises are more than just hard light holograms (or whatever we said they were again).
Not too much I can say in regards to problems. I did think that Doc's Gollumesque reactions at the beginning and the end were a bit unrealistic considering what is happening, but that's just a matter of my own taste.
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Glad you found it to be good! by
on 2014-04-16 07:17:00 UTC
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I am trying to follow in July's footsteps and live up to the Floaters name by having a good variety of mission types, with more creativity solution-wise than just assassinations. (My first one was pretty ordinary, I guess, but there wasn't much Fahrenheit 451 badfic to choose from, so.)
One of my favorite parts of writing missions is getting to explore the setting of the canon world, and the disguises are frequently a part of that. I especially like to dwell on the nature of unusual disguises, and what the agents experience while "wearing" them.
Doc's Gollum-speak is . . . just part of Doc. I think I might dedicate part of the next interlude to explaining his relationship with books.It's definitely not based on any real life habits of mine, nosiree. That would be ridiculous. -
Nice work! by
on 2014-04-04 18:46:00 UTC
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Various people have already mentioned the things I like most about it—the meta, the agents exploring their Toonish forms, the parallel between the choices offered in the game and Vania's decision at the end, the way Millie redeems herself by giving the Heart back. All very enjoyable. ^_^ I remember thinking Doc should have known better than to go investigate the bomb when it didn't go off, because cartoon bombs always wait to go off until the person who set them comes to see why they haven't, but it still made a good gag.
I was a little sad that they threw away the extra paintbrush, though. Probably a wise decision on the agents' part, but taking Sue artifacts as souvenirs is a fine old PPC tradition! I can't help but feel they missed an opportunity for some fun in HQ, or at least some good bartering.
Also, the Poison Joke problem didn't get resolved. Is that something that'll happen in the next interlude?
I caught a couple technical errors:
* "Once she saw Mickey, the two characters introduced each other" - Did you mean "introduced themselves"? Otherwise, Millie is introducing Mickey and vice versa, which doesn't make much sense. I wouldn't put it past the badfic, but I'd think such an odd thing would warrant full inclusion in the mission rather than glossing over it. {= )
* "[Um. No. We’re technically toons right now, thanks to the disguise generator.] She gave a meek grin. [We would have melted, too.]" - The underline continues between the two bits of speech, and that seems to be anomalous.
BTW, I think the argument challenge was probably one of hS's writing challenges. VM wrote a couple of Cafeteria stories for the same one, as I recall.
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Thanks for reviewing! Errors are better now. by
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Can't blame the "introduced each other" on the badfic; that one was wholly mine! And the text box speech . . . I couldn't think of a better way to portray that on paper (as it were), but it sure made for a nightmare of htmfail.
I kind of felt that I had to get rid of the paintbrush for Millie's sake. Even early on in writing this, I had an inkling (no pun intended) that I would be using Millie at least in the interlude that follows. Since she's pretty much stuck with the blot powers (can't chuck those through a portal!), she's going to have a bit of therapy and training to keep her Sue powers from taking over her characterization as she gets older, I think. Having that brush floating around HQ somewhere could potentially be a bad temptation for her later OOOHHH I get it. That could be interesting plot. Maybe I will go back and keep the brush . . . (The fact that there's really no explanation for how the brush works beyond "there's a wizard, and magic happened" was also part of my decision to ditch it; I just don't know how the thing works!)
And yes, an interlude is to follow. There was enough stuff left to wrap up that I thought it could stand alone as an interlude. (I'm also hoping for a couple of guest appearances, but they're all from retired-ish members, so that could be interesting . . .)
Oh, and sorry for misattributing your challenge, hS. -
I had saves by
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Back last August, I archived the Board (in case we wanted to move to Tomash!Board and keep old posts). The archive goes to somewhere in June 2008. I grabbed the RP in question out of the archive and posted it at this beta instance of Board 1.49...
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Nice! by
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I quite enjoyed it, even without knowledge of Epic Mickey. (The only thing I know about it is that there's a brush mechanic that may or may not be similar to Okami's.)
I think my favorite part was the rapid-pace time-skips and the way you handled them. I got very vivid mental images.
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From what I've seen, by
on 2014-04-04 16:11:00 UTC
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Ōkami's brush mechanic is way more sophisticated then EM's, which is basically "point the Wiimote at the screen and shoot it." The DS game did have a draw-with-the-stylus mechanic, though.
Those time skips were pretty much the biggest physical threat the badfic presented, so I had fun coming up with all the different ways bruises could be earned during that sequence. Then, of course, I culminated it with a potential dip in theDipThinner. (Gee. I actually hadn't made that connection to Roger Rabbit before now.) -
Well done! by
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I liked the part where Millie apologized to Yen Sid and gave his Heart back. Very classic Disney; if only more Sues redeemed themselves like that. (Also, Doc calling his bookcase "The Precious" XD) Have you played Epic Mickey? I heard it was pretty good.
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EM is good if you're into Disney. by
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The plot is great and all, but there are some spots where I just got stuck hardcore. (Vania's complaint about Lonesome Manor being hard is really my complaint; I was disappointed in how difficult that part was for me, because it was based on my favorite ride at Disneyland, and I didn't really get to enjoy it because of how frustrated I got.) But then again, I'm a very casual gamer, so maybe it's a fine game and I just stank at it.
That is a very Disney-esque ending, isn't it? I didn't really notice at the time; I was just writing what had to be written! And I'm definitely going to write more of Millie andOlsenOllie. (Ohlsen is my maternal grandparents' last name; I just can't associate that with a little kid.) They're going to appear in my next two Doc+Vania interludes, and then I'm thinking of doing some stories of them in the Nursery's school, which hasn't been seen (I think) since Oracle of Delphi wrote in it about ten years ago! -
I've found a few potential classmates for Olsen and Millie. by
on 2014-04-04 18:46:00 UTC
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So is Olsen's full name Ollie Olsen now? It does sound very Disney-esque, with the alliteration and the soft vowel sounds. That or 1960s Stan Lee, also because of the alliteration.
Anyway. Aside from the badfic rescues that are already adopted by agents, There are a couple of missions that rescued small children from their badfics, like Ava and Jennifer from these two Indemaat missions(the second even doubles as an ex-Sue), and Will and Elizabeth from Cyba Zero's Mulan missions (mentioned as children here here and recruited in the sequel here. There's also the young Khajiit named M'sein created in the Halloween RP, but I'm not sure whether or not he counts as a character written by World-Jumper or simply created by him. You should probably ask first if you plan to include M'sein.
I can try to track down a few more if you'd like, but it might be easier to just ask some Boarders who have adopted badfic children to loan you a few additional classmates. Personally, I'd like to see Herr Wozzeck's four rescues again. The last time that they appeared was pretty enjoyable. -
Oh man, I forgot about him. by
on 2014-04-04 19:11:00 UTC
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Mostly because I forgot about that RP. I have a tenancy to do that with Board RPs. They sound great, but when I try to participate, things get complicated, real life gets in the way, and I leave Printworthy standing in the middle of a room without ever telling his story of how he became uncanon. Sorry about that, by the way.
Anyway, M'sein. I have no plans for him, so as far as I see it, he's open for use. Actually, because I like the idea of an expanded pool of free-use characters, I'll say that M'sein is Free To Use. Anybody who wants to use him for any reason can do so. All I really know about him is that he is a Khajiit, and Khajiit like to sneak. However, he is not as stealthy as most of his kin. He is less of a jaguar, more of a lion. Of course, that could be because he's a kitten, and more wild now then he will be later. It is up to the future writers to decide. -
The RP is still going on, technically. by
on 2014-04-04 19:24:00 UTC
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It's just on the second page now. SeaTurtle responded to one of my posts after it crossed over, so you should be able to reply without problems if you want to.
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Oh, no, I have far too much to do. by
on 2014-04-04 19:48:00 UTC
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While I would love to wrap up the two ponies dialogue, I think I let it go stagnant far too long. Besides, the story he was going to tell will be part of an interlude I have coming up at some point. I would say soon, but I have a lot to do, and not a lot of time for writing. Besides, if I were to continue it, I would have to read up on what has happened in the rest of the RP to make sure it all fits together. No, I dropped the ball on this one. I'll try to do better next time.
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Nah, it's OK, dude. (nm) by
on 2014-04-04 21:07:00 UTC
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Depends what you mean. by
on 2014-04-04 16:37:00 UTC
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The school aspect of Nursery certainly hasn't been seen much - oracle and Ekwy are the instances I can think of, and the Complete List seems to back that up. But the Nursery aspect certainly has been - 'Nursery' is still, uh, only four years in the future, for one. I also suspect there are references in Laburnum's stories - both Marsha the triceratops, and Molly Rath the ferret, fit the profile for students.
For that matter, Marsha is 13 in the 'present' of her stories, so if she shows up, she may well be in the school part. I don't know for sure, though.
You could also ask Tomash if there are any Board Archive references to Marsha, Molly, or Moses Taggson; they may well have come up in RPs.
In fact, overin Ozerbordon the Other Board, there are two possibly-relevant RPs: Henry's Birthday features at least a few children, and the 2013 Trick-or-Treat is partially set in the Nursery. So there you go - possibly-relevant information ahoy!
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Right, I meant the school aspect specifically. by
on 2014-04-05 06:30:00 UTC
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I know we've seen plenty of the Nursery, but I want to look at the training and teaching aspect a bit. or possibly a lot.
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Nice mission by
on 2014-04-04 01:34:00 UTC
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I've only seen bits of Epic Mickey and I haven't gotten around to playing it.
The Poison Jokes effects are amusing.
It's great when you describe the settings and the minis. I've only been recently reading missions on continuum I have very little knowledge of (now that I have read some, I got to read some funny ones), so it's great to not feel lost when reading it. -
I like to describe things, except for humans. by
on 2014-04-04 15:57:00 UTC
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EM isn't super great gameplay-wise, but if you're fairly Disney-nerdy, there are enough little in-jokes and secret areas to explore that it makes it worth it. (The DS sequel had great, challenging gameplay, but is really short. I haven't played EM2 yet.)
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Nice Job by
on 2014-04-03 18:49:00 UTC
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I know you said that you're unsure of this one, but I thought it was a well done little mission. Probably a bit shorter than normal, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Plus, it's nice to see some Epic Mickey stuff.
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! by
on 2014-04-04 15:54:00 UTC
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I actually thought the mission had gone on too long, considering the size of the badfic. (Just over three pages, printed out--yes, I print them, don't judge me.)
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Good mission! by
on 2014-04-03 15:41:00 UTC
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Doc and Vania had fun conversations this time around, and it was fun to watch them try to get used to their weirdly-altered states and all that. I also like that you didn't kill the Sue this time: Vania's reasoning is actually pretty correct, and I could see why she thought of recruiting her to the PPC. It's always nice to remind people that killing a Sue isn't the only option, you know?
I do think you're right that this doesn't feel as strong as, say, your Fahrenheit 451 mission. I think the main issue is actually something that's not entirely your fault: I think said issue is that the fic being sporked just doesn't have enough material to sustain a PPC mission like this. Its only real sin is that it seems to read like an especially bad synopsis of a prospective fic, and I think that might've restricted the amount you could do with it. Most notably for me, I think that this could have led to the Ostown part of the mission being a hair too long, though take that with a grain of salt since you do manage to get quite a bit to do there regardless.
Other than that one thing, though, it was a good mission, and it's been too damn long since the last one.
And on a side note... I can't be the only one that was thinking of this every time I read Millie's name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdyCkZpMBlM -
Thank you! by
on 2014-04-03 16:05:00 UTC
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There was a bit more "work" to do in this mission, and I'm sorry the narrative suffered for it. Part of the reason for that extra Ostown scene was to get the agents away from the compressing time, which as you say, was the main problem with the fic, and maybe not enough of a funny thing to support a mission on.
But, I'm still glad I wrote this. It was a fun canon to explore, and I even got some recruits and minis out of it!
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It certainly was a fun canon to read about. by
on 2014-04-03 17:13:00 UTC
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Almost makes me wish that I hadn't been disheartened by the news of the steampunk tease didn't become part of the game in the end.
*shrug*
Oh well.
(Yeah, though how out of place would that be? Just... Just remember to change the "raise your skirts" line to somethin' else, 'kay?) -
Neat! by
on 2014-04-03 10:01:00 UTC
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I've heard about Epic Mickey and it looks really cool, but sadly I've never gotten around to playing it, since I don't own a Wii.
But from your mission you give a really good impression of the game. I like the part about how in the game, you can chose between a quick "evil" solution or a more difficult "good" one (reminds me a bit of Mass Effect) and how it ends up tying into your agents' decision. And much as I love to hate the truly horrible Stus and Sues, it's nice to see one every once in a while who is not truly, irredeemable bad. So it was a good choice of fic to go with that canon. -
Thank you! by
on 2014-04-03 16:00:00 UTC
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That's what I liked about this fic; it gave me a chance to put my agents in the shoes of the player just a bit. Same with the disappearing, reappearing Olsen. The whole thing turned delightfully meta!
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I don't have a full-sized response. by
on 2014-04-03 22:24:00 UTC
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This is the first of your missions that I've read, so I can't compare it to the others, and I'm only marginally familiar with Epic Mickey, but I noticed two issues in this section: (Now that they were catching up to the story, they were avoiding portals as much as possible to put off the fast forward syndrome as long as possible.) Doc had been reading the Words as well (with difficulty, considering he wasn’t yet good at doing so with glasses) and had questions of his own. You might consider rephrasing the parenthetical so that there aren't two "as ___ as possible"s in one sentence, and as for the second sentence, hadn't it been established earlier that he didn't have his glasses on?
Also, there's a missing comma after "Millie" in You’re with Millie aren’t you?”
I liked the meta angle, though! We've seen how the Word World reacts when the fic is deleted, but this is the first time I've seen where the agents sent into a badfic get stuck between drafts. I wonder what this would've done to the Intelligence agent sent to scout it out. Would they have only been in the first draft, and unaware of the second, or would they have been trapped between versions the way the Agents sent into it later were?
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Thank you! Mistakes have been fixed. by
on 2014-04-04 15:51:00 UTC
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Oh, wow. It changed quite a bit! And yet . . . the main problem of plot-hopping is still there. And the weird speshul treatment from Yen Sid.
Gosh. "Mileena." "Millie" was already an old-sounding name for a young protagonist, and now it just sounds . . . well. Not like a name any little kid would want to be called. Ever. At all.
At least the grammar and sentence structure seem much improved. In fact, the author has fixed most of the misspellings that caused the minis I collected. I wonder if I technically have to make them go poof now? Ugh. I need to cut down my mission-writing time so these things don't happen.
You know, I had forgotten about Millie getting the blot's ink powers in the end, like Mickey. Her skin color was never mentioned, so I think I'll make her black. We need more agents of color anyway, and it will match up with Mickey's black fur dripping with ink in the game. And Olsen "looked like Mileena's twin" so we get another black character out of the bargain! Sweet! -
I think the minis should be fine. by
on 2014-04-04 18:14:00 UTC
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Since they're from Millie's version of the story rather than Mileena's, they shouldn't be deleted by alterations made to the Mileena draft. That sounds plausible, right? And not like I just made it up to justify keeping the mini-Spatters around because I want to adopt one?
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Argh, sorry. (Mini list here.) by
on 2014-04-05 07:13:00 UTC
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I'm going to make a mini page, obviously, but I've been so busy with work I've been doing bits and pieces here and there, and didn't get to it yet.
Unfortunately, nearly all of these minis come from failures to capitalize, rather than being the more fun mangled-set-of-letters variety, but anyway. Here they are:
bolt
blot
shadow blot
Oswald the lucky rabbit
mad doctor
Dark Beauty castle
sweeper
gremlins
seers
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I think I'll take sweepers. by
on 2014-04-05 15:07:00 UTC
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What does his/her/its outfit look like?
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miniminiminimini by
on 2014-04-06 06:02:00 UTC
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sweepers first showed up in Gremlin Village (aka, the "it's a small world" level), so an actual Spatter would have been wearing one of the doll costumes, like this:
But you don't have to be super-stringent about that. I have an idea that mini-Spatters will wind up dressing in different ways depending on the agents they're adopted by, and what department they're in, just like the real Spatters wearing outfits themed to the area they appear in. So feel free to change the costume over time as you see fit!
Also, the mini-Spatters can have one of two color schemes:
These are both concept pieces that were unused in the final games, because I haven't quite beaten you guys over the heads with the canon's theme of forgotten things being relevant again yet. I think I only mentioned one in the mission, because the red-colored concept art hadn't been discovered by the web at large at the time I wrote that part; I'll probably add it in when I follow Nesh's suggestion to keep the brush.
(And yes, I will get all this on the wiki eventually. Probably on Wednesday. #busy season)
As for Thinner disaster and thinner disaster, the Thinner Disaster is capitalized in-game, as seen in this cut-scene (very basic spoilers, already irrelevant to those who have read the mission):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeV-W4qTsXk
It is a major event in the Cartoon Wasteland's history, and a driving force behind the games' plots. (The nice thing about a game with all-text dialogue is that you never have to wonder how something is spelled.) Technically, "heart," "thinner" and "paint" should also be capitalized in this canon, but I decided they were a little too generic to count as minis when they didn't get capitalized. Even I'm not that anal-retentive! (Although if somebody really wants a mini-Spatter named "heart" with which to make Captain Planet jokes, I won't stop you.)
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miniminiminimini by
on 2014-04-06 06:02:00 UTC
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sweepers first showed up in Gremlin Village (aka, the "it's a small world" level), so an actual Spatter would have been wearing one of the doll costumes, like this:
But you don't have to be super-stringent about that. I have an idea that mini-Spatters will wind up dressing in different ways depending on the agents they're adopted by, and what department they're in, just like the real Spatters wearing outfits themed to the area they appear in. So feel free to change the costume over time as you see fit!
Also, the mini-Spatters can have one of two color schemes:
These are both concept pieces that were unused in the final games, because I haven't quite beaten you guys over the heads with the canon's theme of forgotten things being relevant again yet. I think I only mentioned one in the mission, because the red-colored concept art hadn't been discovered by the web at large at the time I wrote that part; I'll probably add it in when I follow Nesh's suggestion to keep the brush.
(And yes, I will get all this on the wiki eventually. Probably on Wednesday. #busy season)
As for Thinner disaster and thinner disaster, the Thinner Disaster is capitalized in-game, as seen in this cut-scene (very basic spoilers, already irrelevant to those who have read the mission):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeV-W4qTsXk
It is a major event in the Cartoon Wasteland's history, and a driving force behind the games' plots. (The nice thing about a game with all-text dialogue is that you never have to wonder how something is spelled.) Technically, "heart," "thinner" and "paint" should also be capitalized in this canon, but I decided they were a little too generic to count as minis when they didn't get capitalized. Even I'm not that anal-retentive! (Although if somebody really wants a mini-Spatter named "heart" with which to make Captain Planet jokes, I won't stop you.)
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It's me again... by
on 2014-04-05 04:15:00 UTC
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I sent you an e-mail on Wednesday, and you haven't answered yet. I want to avoid pestering you on the Board, but if you don't reply to my emails...
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Uh. Um. That's not good. by
on 2014-04-03 06:58:00 UTC
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I'll get onto the people at YourWebApps and find out what's going on. Hopefully we can at least get the history restored long enough to take a backup (if we can find a way to do that) - though, actually, didn't Tomash do that once already? I hope so; it would save a good deal of trouble.
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Yep. by
on 2014-04-04 06:51:00 UTC
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2008-06-22 18:39:00 UTC to 2013-08-17 20:17:00 UTC (timestamps of thread roots) available for selective dips until batter hosting is found for the Tomash!Board beta (there's a limit on how many database rows I can put on Heroku.)
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Is there any way... by
on 2014-04-04 09:03:00 UTC
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... to put the whole thing up? Not on T-Board, as you say, but could you (for instance) convert it into a spreadsheet and stick it up on Google Drive? It wouldn't look pretty, but at least it'd be there.
For that matter, I'm perfectly happy to use my GDrive as the host - if you can convert it into a readable format. Actually... maybe even if not. At least that way it'd be available for download.
Aside from that, if you're taking requests for things that need to be available somewhere, the Badfic and Shipfic Games are the one that springs to mind. Past that, it becomes a problem of 'who knows what will need looking up?'. doctorlit was searching for minis, and not too long ago I had to look up PG elections, and the Constitution Amendments. Both of those are now rephrased elsewhere, but... well, who knows what it'll be next?
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The saves! by
on 2014-04-05 06:01:00 UTC
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Are at this convenient location. Google Drive won't convert files over 20MB, so you'll have to download the thing. It's a CSV file that has the columns id (from my database copy), the time the post was posted in UTC, the ancestry (post IDs of what came above, separated by '/'es), the author, the subject, and the body.
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Semi-accessible versions! by
on 2014-04-07 09:43:00 UTC
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2012 Archive
2011 Archive
2010 Archive
2008-09 Archive
The archives (excluding 2013, which is still on the Board) are now up in web-searchable form. Unfortunately, GDrive Spreadsheets don't have the bookmarks of GDocs; I think it's possible to link directly to a comment, but I can't find out how. If it is, I'll open the archives up for commenting, on the understanding that people will only use it to 'link' to a specific thread.
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Ah, found it. by
on 2014-04-07 09:49:00 UTC
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The 2009 Badficfest thread
You have to open up the 'Comments Thread' on the right-hand side and use the little drop-down menu to the right of the date. Archives are now open for commenting; anything which needs linking from the Wiki (or anywhere else) can have an informative comment created.
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The collected archives. by
on 2014-04-07 10:16:00 UTC
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The PPC Board Archives
With an explanatory note on how to use them. It's not as good as having the Board to use - but it's a heck of a lot better than nothing.
I'll try and put a link on the Wiki tonight.
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Er, it's not quite working... by
on 2014-04-07 16:56:00 UTC
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Meaning, I can access the spreadsheets all right, but at least in the 2008-2009 archive (I haven't checked the others), I'm unable to click-expand-comment like the instructions say. The field doesn't expand when I click in the function bar, and I can't leave comments. {= ( You may need to adjust the share settings.
You CAN search the wiki for external URLs, though. At least if you're an admin; not sure about general users. Still, that's a godsend. Even though there are LOTS of links to posts from the Current Events page and I do not relish going through all of them. I don't suppose anyone wants that part of the job...?
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Oh, frogspawn. by
on 2014-04-07 17:09:00 UTC
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Looks like I can fix the comments half of it without too much trouble (and have done for 08-09); the expand-to-read is different. I'm a bit wary of allowing people to 'edit' - which is what that requires - so I may have to edit the instructions to just tell you to copy-paste the message. Which is a pain in the neck, honestly.
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Thank you for doing this! by
on 2014-04-07 14:20:00 UTC
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To both Tomash and Huinesoron, for all the work you guys put into this, thank you.
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Glad I could help by
on 2014-04-07 14:26:00 UTC
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I'll be sure to run another archive job sometime this summer so that we don't lose the second half of 2013.
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Thank you both! by
on 2014-04-07 16:02:00 UTC
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I just about died when I popped in and read that everything was gone. I could hardly believe it. I'm so glad you had the backups, Tomash! Please keep making them forever?
And hS, thanks for making them accessible! I'll have to keep an eye open for links to Board posts on the wiki so they can be updated. I think Wikia introduced a tool to search for external links, though, so it might not be too tricky to find them all. I'll see what I can do.
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Don't worry by
on 2014-04-07 22:36:00 UTC
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I'll try to make it an annual thing if I can. The only thing I have to do is figure out a sensible definition of union for (in psuedo-Haskell)
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A new discovery. by
on 2014-04-10 17:08:00 UTC
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After several hours of beating the internet into submission, I've managed to extract about two thousand links to individual posts (not front pages) from the Wayback Machine. Some of them are duplicates, and some don't work, but I think there's a lot of actual information there.
The earliest posts date to December 2007, and... well, given that we're making around 1500 posts a month, I think most of them are from December '07. There are a scattered few from '08 as well (and a handful from later which can be ignored).
I'll be working to put all this onto the Archives; I've made a very small start with one thread at the top of the '07 Subject Archive.
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I can give you my crawler by
on 2014-04-10 21:16:00 UTC
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But I think it's probably a bit rude to crawl the Internet Archive. Could you email the Archive people and ask them for copies of the posts, so you (or I or someone else) can process them locally?
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On further consideration... by
on 2014-04-11 10:58:00 UTC
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... I've discovered that I can easily plough through a hundred or so posts in an hour and a half, and I'm having fun doing so. ;) So I'll probably do it by hand. It's not like anything actually happened in December '07, so it's not an urgent matter.
Though it did remind me how much fun Fill The Plothole can be. Einstein in Narnia... heh.
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I was about to suggest the same thing. by
on 2014-04-07 14:37:00 UTC
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And I'm going to go on record here and say that my role in all this has been minimal - just a copy-and-paste job, basically. Your initiative in taking the backups at all is what's made any of it possible. So thank you.
As a way of increasing my own part in the matter, I'm going to be adding the pre-2008 'archives' to my collection. They consist solely of the post titles - nothing from the actual contents - but it's still better than nothing. And since I already have them compiled from my statistics work... [Shrug]
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Hey, just noticed a thing... by
on 2014-04-03 09:56:00 UTC
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Why don't we have a wiki page on the Union of Plort yet? It is a noteworthy AU, so I thought this odd.
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Presumably because no-one's made one yet? (nm) by
on 2014-04-03 10:33:00 UTC
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Fair enough. (nm) by
on 2014-04-03 11:07:00 UTC
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A bit more detail. by
on 2014-04-03 11:25:00 UTC
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For various reasons, most of the time I spend on the computer is on a system which outright blocks the Wiki. So it's very rare that I'll lay a finger on it these days - and almost never to do more than make a quick edit. Writing an entire page is beyond me.
But someone can certainly write it. The Cyclopaedia is linked from my Webplex, and includes nearly all the information created about Plort (the sole exception being the road map, which I haven't gotten in there). So if someone wants to write a sourced article, go ahead! All the images are available for free use.
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Also making a note: by
on 2014-04-03 17:11:00 UTC
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No one's mentioned the Time Lord Continuity Council on any of the relevant pages. Is that still a canon thing or have we all decided to say screw it to the entire endeavour?
I mean, I'm willing to update Dis and the Agent's pages to reflect their silly new collars.
Oh, and before I completely forget:
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Nice. by
on 2014-04-03 23:20:00 UTC
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Yes, the Continuity Council is canon for my spinoff. I'm also totally the Librarian from this image for a page image once my current mission passes its beta'ing stage (if you permit, of course).
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Totes fine. by
on 2014-04-03 23:27:00 UTC
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I'm thinking of colouring it first though.
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Uhu. by
on 2014-04-04 19:38:00 UTC
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Can't wait to see it.
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No, it's still a thing. by
on 2014-04-03 17:48:00 UTC
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My reasons for not mentioning it are the same as above. ;) The whole thing is linked on the Webplex, though, which is my personal way of denoting canon.
That's an awesome picture (and I wondered if you were actually going to draw it like you said you would!). Morgan says thanks for the gun.
(The reason the Continuity Council will always be canon for me is that I specifically put it together to use sometime in Agent Huinesoron's second season. So I'm hardly going to give it up!)
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Thanks for clearing that up hS! (nm) by
on 2014-04-03 21:45:00 UTC
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I'd like to join by
on 2014-04-04 08:08:00 UTC
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hello.
I've been reading about the PPC for about a month,and i'd have to say the concept is pretty cool.
so,i'd like to join the community.
i don't usually go online to discuss fandoms,but my preferred fandoms are shin megami tensei,digimon,pokemon,and mass effect.
I'd like to become a writer as a job.
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A rifle round for a member? Now this is diversity! (nm) by
on 2014-04-05 05:49:00 UTC
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Welcome to the Madhouse! by
on 2014-04-05 00:05:00 UTC
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I haven't really got anything to give you… so… (snatches a mop from a passing janitor) Here!
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*waves* by
on 2014-04-04 22:00:00 UTC
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Hello and welcome!
I give to you now a line Infinite Notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver binding. Don't look at it straight on.
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Warm hugs by
on 2014-04-04 21:42:00 UTC
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Take this X-men jacket and Nightcrawler Plushie. Go on
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Welcome! by
on 2014-04-04 20:02:00 UTC
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Have you read the Original Series yet? That's basically what we're all writing fanfics of. Have an inspirational comic: http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/
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*waves* by
on 2014-04-04 13:41:00 UTC
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Hey, just by introducing yourself, you're already a member. Hello! Have a mewing buffalo! He likes cheesecake.
The only things you really need to remember are 1) be polite and 2) check your SPaG *nudge nudge*
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Darling, you've already joined! by
on 2014-04-04 08:40:00 UTC
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...just by being here.
So, who are you? Male or female? Where can we go to read your fanfics? What do you like? What country do you live in?
There's so much more fun to have!
But can you please write with proper grammar? That is, after all, what our organization is based on.
Otherwise, come on in! Partcipate in discussions and just generally have fun! Read the Original Series, read the Wiki, chat with us, and RELAX. We are not a completely serious community.
Wait a bit until you ask for Permission, kay?
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RE:can I join by
on 2014-04-04 09:04:00 UTC
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Do I have to tell you my real name?
I had written a fanfic,but I deleted it because it was bad.
I am a U.S. citizen,but am currently living in south Korea.
What kind of grammatical errors did I make?
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You have questions, we have answers. by
on 2014-04-04 09:28:00 UTC
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No need to tell us your real name. A screen name is A-Okay!
Grammar-wise, I believe KittyEden was referring to the fact that your "I"s were not all capitalized, you need spaces after a comma, and fandoms needing capitals as well.
As Huinesoron said, don't forget to read up on the Board's rules (the Constitution) and the FAQ. If you have any other questions, ask away! We'll be happy to answer them.
Concerning your question on Permission: Permission Givers don't give authorization to write spinoffs right away. Please read this article for all the details.
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on 2014-04-04 09:52:00 UTC
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When do you give permission?
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Again, let me link you to the Permission article. by
on 2014-04-04 10:03:00 UTC
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Please read this section in particular.
As a rule of thumb, once you've been around a few weeks, participated in discussions, read lots of other spinoffs, etc, you may start cobbling some ideas together for a Permission request. You may know everything about us, but we don't know anything about you! Stick around, get to know everyone, and have a good time. We're not going anywhere, we promise! -
Name, rank, and serial number. by
on 2014-04-04 09:09:00 UTC
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No, wait, cereal number - no, I mean favourite cereal.
Nah, only joking. As far as we're concerned, your name is 7.65x54R (and it's not the strangest name we've had, either). Welcome a'Board. Have you read the Constitution? Seeing as it's our ground rules, it's quite important to read. There's also a FAQ For Newbies, which may help with some questions.
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RE:Name,rank,and serial number by
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I've read both.
Can I have permission to write a PPC mission?(I've been reading about the PPC for weeks before this post) -
Points to SeaTurtle's response-- by
on 2014-04-04 12:27:00 UTC
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Also, hi there. Welcome. Have a cup of (predatory) green tea. What are your fandoms? What do you enjoy doing with your life?
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my Fandoms by
on 2014-04-05 00:51:00 UTC
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My Fandoms are shin megami tensei(especially persona), Pokemon, Digimon, and Mass effect, among others
I like to write(though I am better at descriptive writing than creative writing)
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I totally trolled my English teacher yesterday. by
on 2014-04-04 13:49:00 UTC
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He's never in the classroom during passing period, so when I got in there, I went up to the board and wrote 'Grammer is very important!' before taking my seat. When Mr. Roth came in, he looked at the board for a minute or so before going back out to the hall and taking a long drink at the water fountain.
Does anyone else have any stories about pranking people with bad grammar? Did the victims even realize they'd been had? Go ahead and share! -
funny joke by
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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You should've said... by
on 2014-04-04 14:30:00 UTC
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"Grammer is very impotent!" That would've been funnier.
I actually don't remember pranking someone with bad grammar, but I remember one time that kind of gets close: one time for a composition lesson that happened to fall on April Fool's Day, I took the text of something I was doing and I rendered it entirely in the alien font from the movie District 9 instead of its original English. It wasn't a very successful prank, but hey. -
This wasn't so much intentional or a prank... by
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...but I do keep using PPC characters when asked to write sentences on my French exams, and I had one on April 1st this year. So, of course, for the sentence I had to write using the word 'citizenship', I had someone telling Edgar that in order to get citizenship he had to ask 'Monsieur Sod' to write a letter to the government agents. In hindsight, I expect I could have written something about Acacia annoying Jay by getting Roman citizenship, but it didn't occur to me at the time, so I just stuck the Marquis de Sod in there. Along with a DIC agent.
...well, it amuses me, at any rate. Makes exams more fun, and sometimes gets you character development into the bargain.
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I know, right? by
on 2014-04-05 05:46:00 UTC
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I had to write a narrative in class a week ago, and since I didn't have any original ideas, I wrote about Cassie and Scribie, travelling in the land of FF, through the towns of 4C, FaNet, and Ljay. They were trying to get to G Tower before it collapsed, then it turned out that Scribie had been causing the damage all along.
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Normally I use D&D characters by
on 2014-04-07 12:19:00 UTC
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But I'm liking the Agents idea. I'll have to do that sometime. :)
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I don't know the story... by
on 2014-04-05 18:28:00 UTC
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...but I tend to use characters from books as a shorthand when I'm writing things for Spanish. Recently, it's been the Codex Alera, so my Spanish teacher has been hearing a lot about Tavi and Kitai and Ehren and has no clue why.
It's fun.
(And yeah, it's technically fic, but my writing in Spanish is so stilted that... no. Just no.)
-Aila
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The Preview Room by
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Hello, and welcome to yet another thread I have dreamed up.
It's simple. In this thread, you advertise your latest fanfictions- BUT you need t do it in the style of a film preview.
And then- you recieve critic-style reviews from other people.
So- what are you waiting for! Let's get it started!
~Kitty
Fic Preview- Into the Vortex [Doctor Who
This preview has been approved for a PG audience...
Space-style music plays in the background, as we coast through space.
NARRATOR: In a universe of trouble, it's up to one man, and his companions to save it...
(Shot of the Tardis tumbling through the vortex)
NARRATOR: But now... he may be slightly out of his depth.
(Shot of the 10th Doctor being attacked by fangirls)
ROSE: So, in this universe, we're an international television sensation?
DOCTOR: Well, that's a new one.
NARRATOR: And when the aliens are leaking in through a rift...
ROSE: Both universes could be destroyed!
DOCTOR: That could be a slight problem.
NARRATOR: Teaming up with a fangirl...
ROSE: You're insane.
KITTY: Yep!
NARRATOR: A anarchic computer program...
BoB: I prefer to be called 'sarcastic'.
NARRATOR: And...
ROSE: A rock.
NARRATOR: They must save the world. Both of them.
(Shot of approaching Daleks)
(Shot of Rose and Kitty running through a graveyard)
(Shot of the Doctor and BoB arguing)
(Shot of the Doctor catching Rose)
(Shot of possesed!Kitty)
(Shot of Cybermen closing in on the Doctor)
(Shot of Kitty throwing her rock)
NARRATOR: The multiverse is in big trouble.
DOCTOR: Yup, they exaggerated my insanity.
ROSE: I actually think that the TV show underestimated it.
DOCTOR: Look at Kitty there and repeat that.
ROSE: ...point.
(Doctor Who theme music, a the words fill the screen)
Doctor Who: Into the Vortex
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...this should be fun. by
on 2014-04-06 16:07:00 UTC
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'The Right Kind of Doctor', or Three Jacks Walk Into A Plothole [Torchwood PPC Mission]
This trailer has been approved for general audiences
The screen is black
NARRATOR: In a land of words and a time of badfic, the destiny of a great canon rests on the shoulders of a character replacement. His name...Jacques.
(cut to Jacques Bonnefoy, dancing around his RC. He is waving a rapier around and singing at the top of his lungs.)
NARRATOR: When Jacques Bonnefoy gets a call...
(shot of Jacques silencing the console)
NARRATOR: ...he will return to Torchwood to save the day.
(shot of Jacques stepping out of a portal)
JACK: (offscreen) I was wondering when you'd get here.
JACQUES: I need your help.
(shot of Jacques staring at a Sue in horror; cut to him talking angrily into his wriststrap)
NARRATOR: The task before him will not be easy.
(cut to Jacques watching angrily as in-fic Jack yells at his Sue daughter)
FIC!JACK: What are you wearing?!
(flash; camera zooms in on fic!Jack)
FIC!JACK: Your only 17!
(flash; camera zooms out. Jacques is glaring)
NARRATOR: And to keep his sanity...
(shot of Jacques turning sharply and walking through a portal)
NARRATOR: He will seek out help.
(shot of Ianto Jones, eyebrows raised)
(shot of Toshiko Sato, shaking her head slowly)
(shot of Jack Harkness, grinning and straightening his coat)
NARRATOR: This year
(shot of Ianto and Jacques laughing. Jacques is waving his arms around as he makes a point)
NARRATOR: Experience the chaos.
(flash: shot of Jacques and Jack confronting fic!Jack)
(flash: shot of fic!Jack yelling, red-faced, as the Sue clings to Gwen)
(flash: shot of Ianto grinning. Flash: shot of a girl snatching a book from the Sue's hands and throwing it into the garbage. Flash: Jacques glares at the fic; Jack turns Jacques' head and kisses him)
(cut to black)
(fade-in shot of Jacques standing surrounded by mini-Reapers and smiling at fic!Jack)
JACQUES: I've got an idea.
(flash: a house in the middle of nowhere. Flash: Gwen and Rhys running out of the house. Flash: a helicopter swings through the sky, shooting as it goes. Flash: Gwen stands up in the back of a careening vehicle and prepares to fire a bazooka.)
(Shot: back to Jacques, now smirking)
JACQUES: And you are not going to like it.
(cut to black. Title slowly expands to fill the screen)
Three Jacks Walk Into A Plothole
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That sounds interesting. by
on 2014-04-05 17:20:00 UTC
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Seems like a comedy from the narrator's words in the opening, ahha. But I figure that might be what you're getting at, if you're in the fic as well.
Okay. Let's see. I got some chapters of Exquisite Corpse coming out soon (maybe Tuesday?), so...
The Exquisite Corpse Novel Season Finale [Star Trek Writer AU]
The following preview has been approved for all audiences.
This music begins playing as we open out onto a shot of Boston
KIRK: (V.O.) Have you ever heard of the Exquisite Corpse?
(insert shot: six writers and an editor gathered around a coffee table. KIRK is one of them; he has just pitched that idea and gotten a couple headshakes.)
MCCOY: It's a game of Consequences. You write part of a story and have someone else continue what you've started without looking at your section.
SPOCK: The readability of such a novel would be low.
KIRK: Ever heard of fun, Spock?
(insert shot of the writing group, with the caption "Six writers. One novel.")
(shot of SCOTTY writing in a mechanic's shop.)
SCOTTY: This novel's set in the 23rd Century, after faster-than-light space travel has become possible. It focuses on the story of Peter Taggart and how he becomes the captain of the USS Enterprise.
(shot of NYOTA taking pages from SCOTTY, laughing)
NYOTA: You based Taggart off Kirk, didn't you?
SCOTTY: As you based the Vulcans off Spock, I suppose.
NYOTA: That Vulcan Lazarus and his relationship with Taggart is going to be fun to write, I can tell.
(shot of KIRK looking up from his tablet at SPOCK)
NYOTA: Maybe you should talk to him.
KIRK: Are you trying to set us up?
NYOTA: Do you really think I'd set my sensitive best friend up with someone like you?
(jump shots of KIRK getting up, walking over to SPOCK)
KIRK: (V.O.) I've never felt this way about someone before.
(brief shot of KIRK and SPOCK kissing)
(shot of SPOCK storming out of the New Year's Party)
SPOCK: You are a mistake I do not intend to repeat.
(shot of OLD SPOCK talking to SPOCK)
OLD SPOCK: Don't make my mistakes, and you'll be fine.
(shot of KIRK kissing SPOCK's hand in a restaurant)
(shot of the scene being photographed)
(shot of CHEKOV finding it on the internet)
CHEKOV: Why are there pictures of you and Jim on this Tumblr?
NYOTA: They're circulating rumours about Spock, too.
SPOCK: I do not know why they are intruding on my privacy.
(shot of CHEKOV handing MCCOY several pages)
CHEKOV: The novel is being finished at last.
MCCOY: God help us all.
(shot of the group seated around another table, stacks of the manuscript in front of them.)
(shot of KIRK storming out into the rain)
(shot of EDITH KEELER, smiling at either KIRK or MCCOY)
(shot of SPOCK angrily scrawling on a whiteboard)
(increasingly rapid shots of: the group talking, the group writing, SPOCK and MCCOY instant-messaging, SPOCK and KIRK standing across from each other in the kitchen.)
SPOCK: You emotionally compromise me like no other.
(Cut to black. Title fills the screen.)
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Oh my... (Potential NSFW!) by
on 2014-04-05 13:14:00 UTC
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Sounds like an interesting challenge! Hm...
Okay, let's do it!
Fic Preview- They Who Fight Monsters [Mass Effect/Beyond: Two Souls]
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Ominous version of the theme of Beyond: Two Souls plays.
(shot of Jodie waking up in a metal alley, looking around frantically)
JODIE: Aiden? Aiden, are you there?
(shot from Aiden's point of view from where he hovers above Jodie. fade to black.)
Music shifts to the Mass Effect theme.
(Shot of Jodie walking down the alley in question, her footsteps rather slow. During this shot, a series of second-long shots fly by, in time with Jodie's footfalls. In the following order:
-Jodie fighting an armored turian.
-A black-armored mercenary being flung with great force into a C-SEC office, a blade pinning him to the wall.
-Ashley Williams and Anderson being shouted at by an unknown person: at this, the words "Trust goes both ways" ring out via voice-over.
-Jodie and an unnamed quarian running through a street that looks like it is on the Citadel, live fire flitting by all over them.
-A human-looking something strapped to an arm-chair, a green liquid flowing out of its eyes.
-A shot of the Illusive Man being confronted by a holographic Jodie. As this shot goes by, Jodie's voice shouts "how do you sleep at night?"
-A shot of Tali and Shepard in an intimate embrace.
-A batarian vomiting blood onto the floor of a cell.
-A slightly extended shot of Jodie running from an unseen assailant, her scream halting the music.)
(Smash cut to black.)
JODIE (via narration): Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.
(Shot of Jodie looking up at Commander Shepard as he enters the C-SEC office. The shot frames Shepard's face as he gets closer.)
JODIE (continued): And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
They Who Fight Monsters
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Oh, for the love of... by
on 2014-04-05 13:15:00 UTC
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Dammit, I think there needs to some kind of universal way that HTML tags can be closed...
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I have a question about SCP bad fics by
on 2014-04-05 17:52:00 UTC
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I’m just curious on what the PPC’s policy is on bad fics in this continuum.
To clarify I have yet to find any bad fics of the SCP foundation, but as anyone can tell you if there are fanfics of it there are definitely bad fics out there somewhere.
P.S. I have other things to talk about but I’m going to make a reply to this message and discuss them there. -
now that i'm thinking about it what about creepypasta B.fics by
on 2014-04-06 02:07:00 UTC
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Like, would the PPC even have to protect the continuity for them or do you think the creepypastas can handle their sues by themselves.
Also, it has to be asked if any PPC agent would even want to set foot in the any of the creepypasta continuum. I mean would anyone be brave enough to be, like, 10 feet away form slenderman in any kind of situation?
I hope I worded every thing right and got my thought across. -
SCP? by
on 2014-04-06 00:56:00 UTC
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I don't think that I am familiar with this continuum. What is SCP?
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the SCP foundation by
on 2014-04-06 01:15:00 UTC
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in a quick explanation: it is a special facility that specializes in containing mystical and/or other worldly objects. these objects range form universe destroying to strange but other wise friendly.
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Semi-quarantined continuum--they take care of their own Sues by
on 2014-04-05 20:44:00 UTC
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Bad SCPs are eventually deleted because they're downvoted too much. Anything Mary-Sueish gets deleted in short order and there are a few SCPs that are now "decommissioned", with SCP writers having actually written pieces about destroying the SCP in question.
The SCP is also very meta; for example, they possess at least one method, probably more, for entering and interacting with fictional universes. They could, theoretically, find out about the PPC. But there's so much else that they concern themselves with that the PPC would not be a major discovery for them.
Because they're so evil (let's face it, they are; they're perfectly willing to torture and kill sentient innocents), they would make dangerous allies. And because they take care of their own 'Sues, there's no need to interact with the continuum. My best guess is that the PPC knows better than to reveal themselves, and the SCP foundation is too busy torturing and killing to prevent the end of the world to try entering the PPCverse. -
thank you :) by
on 2014-04-05 22:25:00 UTC
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Now I know, and knowing is half the battle!
in all seriousness, thanks for clarifying things for me, much appreciated. :) - Obligatory by on 2014-04-06 11:38:00 UTC Link to this
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thank you, it is now complete :'D (nm) by
on 2014-04-06 20:26:00 UTC
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Stuff that needs to be said by
on 2014-04-05 18:56:00 UTC
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First off, my sis Candy7786 has been having some time troubles; basically she has two deviantart RP groups to keep up with and high school. So I asked her if she really wanted to continue with the PPC, she told me that though she enjoys the PPC she just doesn’t have the time for it-at least when compared to everything else she has right now. She may come back some day but it won’t be very soon. I hope I’m not making her sound bad, she really is sorry about not continuing but I feel that if you just don’t have the time for something, then you shouldn't stress yourself out by trying up with every little thing and all while pretending that there is nothing wrong.
Because of this her character is not joining any time soon and so Linda and Dean are just a two person team now. So I was thinking that since Linda and Dean don’t have anyone to help guide them through the bad fic (Woof Woof Power) that I claimed and I don’t actually have a lot of knowledge about the Tokyo Mew Mew continuum. I would like to know if anyone would like to collaborate with me. Basically be a veteran agent helping out two newbies through their first mission, that kind of thing. If no one wants to then I’ll just give up my claim and find a new fic. -
Stuff that needs to be said by
on 2014-04-05 18:56:00 UTC
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First off, my sis Candy7786 has been having some time troubles; basically she has two deviantart RP groups to keep up with and high school. So I asked her if she really wanted to continue with the PPC, she told me that though she enjoys the PPC she just doesn’t have the time for it-at least when compared to everything else she has right now. She may come back some day but it won’t be very soon. I hope I’m not making her sound bad, she really is sorry about not continuing but I feel that if you just don’t have the time for something, then you shouldn't stress yourself out by trying up with every little thing and all while pretending that there is nothing wrong.
Because of this her character is not joining any time soon and so Linda and Dean are just a two person team now. So I was thinking that since Linda and Dean don’t have anyone to help guide them through the bad fic (Woof Woof Power) that I claimed and I don’t actually have a lot of knowledge about the Tokyo Mew Mew continuum. I would like to know if anyone would like to collaborate with me. Basically be a veteran agent helping out two newbies through their first mission, that kind of thing. If no one wants to then I’ll just give up my claim and find a new fic.
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New mission! by
on 2014-04-05 22:29:00 UTC
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Took me some time, but I've finished my latest mission.
-Drumroll-
Of Course I Still Love You, in which Des gets a new partner and they tackle an unusual Sue.
Concrit is welcome, as always.
The following mini-Eyeballs, rescued in this mission, are up for adoption: See Elfs, Wide Elfs, Drizzt Do-Urden, Faerun, Elv and start elf.
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Re: Mission by
on 2014-04-07 06:34:00 UTC
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I like the beginning of this mission immensely. Agent Desdendelle's reaction to Anebrin's snapping feels realistic, and I can empathize with that. The Librarian's introduction starts out strong, with the Time Lord's straightforwardness and lack of emotional reaction serving as a good counterpoint to Agent Des's attitude.
Once the mission gets going, though, it seems like the Librarian fades into the background. Most of his dialogue during the mission is basically just re-statements of what's happening around him ("You are telling me that this… author… did not research their subject before writing about it?") or leading questions that allow Des to tutor him in mission basics ("... How do you know the… author misspelled anything?") He doesn't express much of a personality during all this interplay, or even much in the way of Time Lordiness, apart from one comment about the flow of time being affected by the fic. It's good to show a new agent reacting to their first badfic, but the Librarian hardly reacts at all--he just talks about it. I hope he'll show more of his personality in future missions.
Also, a note about the minis: technically, Forgotten Realms already had mini-Slayers as its mini; however, based on when you were talking about this mission in the chat, you couldn't possibly have known that, because I hadn't put it on the wiki until after you started writing. Since all surviving mentions of mini-Slayers apart from that Directory are gone, and no one is recorded as having adopted any, I'll happily support mini-Eyeballs as the official mini type. (Now go make them a page, please. I don't know much about FR!) -
Re: Mission by
on 2014-04-07 20:01:00 UTC
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First of all, thanks for the concrit.
The Librarian fading into the background is a product of two main things. One, this is his first mission, so he can't really snark yet - he doesn't get what's going on, basically, and the Notary isn't involved, so he doesn't have someone to shout at. Two, maybe on hindsight I should've used a Doctor Who badfic as his first mission, as it would have elicited a stronger reaction from him; simply put, he doesn't care enough about FR now.
As to the Minis, I saw something about Baldur's Gate having mini-Slayers in the wiki (and to be honest, since I've never progressed much in that game or its sequel, I have no idea what mini-Slayers even look like), but that was after I wrote the mission... and since you support the mini-Eyeballs, we'll use that. I'll write a page, alright. -
We could also . . . by
on 2014-04-08 06:00:00 UTC
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use mini-Eyeballs as the main FR continuum's mini, and the mini-Slayer as the mini for the BG games, since they seem to be a spin-off of sorts. That way, the old OFU author still has some input in the matter.
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Seems legit. by
on 2014-04-08 10:35:00 UTC
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Page incoming when I return from the army.
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Very well done, sirs. (nm) by
on 2014-04-06 15:03:00 UTC
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Sirs...? by
on 2014-04-06 19:34:00 UTC
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Last time I checked, there was only one of me (though there's a guy with my name in another unit that I know of).
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Oh, oops. by
on 2014-04-06 19:54:00 UTC
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I was referring to Agent!you and the Librarian. Or maybe it was just a typo, I'm not sure :)
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Heh by
on 2014-04-06 20:24:00 UTC
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Agent!Des would probably look at himself and burst laughing, were he to hear someone address him as 'sir'.
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Oooh, lovely fun! by
on 2014-04-06 04:45:00 UTC
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Relatively low-key mission, for the most part, mostly focused on character interaction, which was wonderful. I love the dynamic you set up between Des and the Librarian. Greatly amusing!
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Mini-Boarder? by
on 2014-04-06 01:56:00 UTC
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Does a misspelling in the credits (sonofheaven176, no underscores) create a mini?
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Not quite. by
on 2014-04-06 07:09:00 UTC
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It has been edited out of existence.
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Ooooh! Dibs on any spare Eyeballs! by
on 2014-04-06 00:38:00 UTC
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Biotech is about the only gadgetry Wobbles has access to more complicated than a sock full of marbles. I'm fairly certain a stable of more or less sane minis would be something she'd enjoy.
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Clarification by
on 2014-04-06 07:11:00 UTC
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Eyeballs are basically mini Beholders, not actual eyeballs, so they're basically mini-mini-Beholders.
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Wobbles would still love him. by
on 2014-04-06 12:26:00 UTC
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Also keep him on a little lead as an attack Eyeball, all floaty and cuddly and so forth. Wobbles is a bit like Hagrid in that regard; she's a friend to all living creatures, even the ones that bite and sting and maim and so on.
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Oh, it's better than that. by
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Not only do Eyeballs bite, they can use their eye beams to cast Cause Fear, Daze, Mage Hand and Frost. They're also Selfish Evil.
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She does love a challenge... by
on 2014-04-07 12:42:00 UTC
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She's also largely indifferent to physical pain what with slapstick being her day job. Oh well, taming anything requires love and friendship, so she's probably got half a chance!
Who am I kidding, it'd end in failure. -
Well... by
on 2014-04-07 20:04:00 UTC
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The Librarian would be delighted to let Wobbles and the Notary take care of the mini-Eyeballs. There are already enough minis in RC log e (Doctor who, Arctic circle and another one whose name eludes me at the moment), and he'd love to see the Notary squirm.
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How that ended up. by
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"So, how do you like our new pets, Agent Photo Free?"
"OH SWEET RASSILON THEY'RE IN MY HAIR!"
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Rassafrassafrassin' brick-thick pudgy clown fingers... by
on 2014-04-06 00:50:00 UTC
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I clicked the wrong button when posting my previous missive and didn't talk about the mission itself.
Anyway, I really enjoyed that. Des and the Librarian have great chemistry and the fic's collection of idiocy made for some really funny moments. Well done! =] -
this gives me a good idea by
on 2014-04-06 01:17:00 UTC
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I enjoyed this one too.
the stupid writing and the librarian's inexperience made for one funny story.
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claiming badfics by
on 2014-04-06 01:07:00 UTC
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How do you claim a badfic?
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has anyone sporked 30 H''s by
on 2014-04-07 11:43:00 UTC
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has anyone sporked,let alone heard of,HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?
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No, but... by
on 2014-04-07 19:52:00 UTC
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IIRC Doctorlit has it on his plate.
-Checks the Wiki-
Yep, claimed by Doc back in 2012, though at the rate he's writing missions, it might take some time before he reaches it... -
It's still on the plate, for the record. by
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I have two interludes coming next, then the Thirty Hs mission.
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30H is too awesome. by
on 2014-04-07 13:30:00 UTC
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And too out-of-this-world to be sporked. It requires writers with high skill and superhuman Agents, since Earth was destroyed in the First Chapter. So space adventure is required.
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Anyone sporked 30 Hs? Well, I'll tell you this much: by
on 2014-04-07 12:39:00 UTC
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Based off your earlier thread concerning your agents (calling them characters is a misnomer) and given the amount of grammatical errors in their descriptions, it ain't gonna be you. Not for a while, at least. We're an accomodating bunch, though, so we would be more than happy to work with you on developing your agents into people rather than broad archetypes.
Back on topic, you could always check the Killed Literature Badfic page on the wiki, but that'd be too easy, wouldn't it? =] -
I find this a little overly negative, tell ya true. by
on 2014-04-08 06:12:00 UTC
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I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your tone, but this struck me as unnecessarily disparaging. There's nothing keeping 7.65x54R from improving their writing and becoming a successful chronicler of missions--including all kinds of legendary badfics, mayhap.
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That's basically what I said... by
on 2014-04-08 12:11:00 UTC
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Though much more disparaging, as you pointed out. However, one of the agent's he's working with is a 13-year-old gun-crazed psycho and the other is arguably a Gary Stu (or whatever we're calling them this month). There's a hell of a long way to go before they're acceptable agents.
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don't mock my intelligence by
on 2014-04-09 00:59:00 UTC
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have you written anything good at all?
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Let's just nip this in the bud. by
on 2014-04-09 06:10:00 UTC
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Guys, let's not get into a "my characters are less undeveloped than your characters" match, all right? That's just silly. This is a writing community; we're all here to improve our writing, whether someone's been doing PPC missions for ten years or hasn't written any yet.
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Seconding. by
on 2014-04-09 15:16:00 UTC
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I'm pretty sure there's something in our Constitution—you know, that thing you agree to abide by when you participate here?—about treating each other with respect. Wobbles, this is the second time I'm aware of that you've been warned about this. It is not acceptable to only follow the Constitution when you feel like it. Your options are either to follow the rules or to leave. Please don't make the latter become necessary; no one wants that.
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Answers by
on 2014-04-06 02:22:00 UTC
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Just do a copy paste of the unclaimed badfic's info from the Unclaimed Badfic page on the wiki and put it in its proper spot on the Claimed Badfic page along with the name of the person claiming it. Be sure to delete the original info from the Unclaimed Badfic page afterward.
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Addendum by
on 2014-04-06 07:15:00 UTC
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Don't forget to mention that it is pending Permission in your case.
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I have a few questions by
on 2014-04-06 12:52:00 UTC
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What is the minimum age for a PPC agent?
One of my planned agents uses miniature bags of holding to carry ammo, Is that possible?
How many weapons can an agent have?
Is it considered sueish to have an artificial persona-user that is a Wild card?
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odt. compatibility by
on 2014-04-07 02:23:00 UTC
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can you link ODT.files to the board?
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I don't think so, but... by
on 2014-04-07 02:53:00 UTC
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...you can copy-paste your stuff into a Google Doc and link it to the Board. That's how some of us post our missions.
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RE: questions by
on 2014-04-06 13:21:00 UTC
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About twelve in human years, yes, as many as they want, and I have no idea what an artificial persona-user is.
I think this and the links on the page will help with your last question; http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:_For_Newbies
(To any oldbies reading this, I have one of my own; What's the difference between a Lust Object and a favorite? -
Very oldbie answer. by
on 2014-04-06 14:47:00 UTC
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The difference is that people decided to complain about saying 'Lust Object', so they invented the term 'favourite' to replace it. Because heaven forfend their agents actually, you know, lust after someone like Jay and Acacia did. Can't be having with that.
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Where do you get that idea? by
on 2014-04-06 16:24:00 UTC
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First of all, as Outhra notes, the term appears alongside "Lust-object" in the PPC Agents infobox, which is usually what people are looking at when this question comes up. I put that space in the infobox myself, so I can tell you with certainty it's there to cover anyone (and anything) an agent might have strong protective feelings about in addition to the characters they lust after—if any. Not everyone HAS to lust. Why should they? However, everyone has favorite characters, or species, or languages, or places, etc. "Favorites" provides a space for that. It doesn't replace the space for the character(s) an agent actually does lust after.
Second, when were people complaining about saying "Lust Object"? I don't remember this. Admittedly, that doesn't mean much, but usually I notice if there's a widespread movement to change something about the PPC.
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Well, it was a /long/ time ago. by
on 2014-04-06 19:42:00 UTC
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The reason Agent Dafydd has a registered Lust Object (Goldberry, since I don't think it's ever been mentioned) is that at that point, everyone did have to lust - or at least list an LO. The idea of 'favourites' - under one name or another - came about when people decided they didn't want to do that. We're probably talking '04 or '05 here - I don't know precisely, it's been ten years.
And let me just note - I wasn't complaining about it, per se (since my wife seems to think I was). The request was for an oldbie answer, so I put on my Oldbie hat, got out my walking stick, and answered in the most crochety way possible. ;)
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Ahhh, okay. by
on 2014-04-07 15:12:00 UTC
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I didn't realize the crotchetiness was a deliberate affectation. I thought maybe you were still grouchy from being sick. Thanks for clearing that up. {= )
I think getting away from everyone having an LO is a good thing, really. Like Wolfychann is quoted as saying in the FAQ: For Other People: "Am I the last person in the world who thinks that publicly expressing physical lust for a complete stranger is... kinda creepy?" IMO, the quote applies more to how some fans behave toward Real World people, less to fictional characters having feelings for other fictional characters whom they actually get to meet in the course of their job, but still. Definitely good that it's not mandatory.
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Re: Ahhh, okay. by
on 2014-04-07 17:42:00 UTC
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It is good for asexual agents to be able to list a favorite. Kelok is emphatically asexual, but also very, very protective of Sherlock Holmes--especially when Holmes is written into a lusty caricature of himself.
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I think she means the distinction in categorical terms. by
on 2014-04-06 15:21:00 UTC
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The wiki's Agent templates show both, one right under the other, and it's not hard to see where there might be confusion.
eatpraylove, I that the distinction is in the way they are viewed by the agents. A Lust Object would be someone who an individual agent finds extremely attractive, and depending on the agent, that lust could go to the extent that any mission involving that character could potentially be compromised. That's why one needs to register one's Lust Objects with the Department of Personnel, so that they can assign missions with a registered Lust Object in a primary role to someone else, assign them to you with a fair deal of warning, or assign them to you because there was a filing error or they/the Ironic Overpower thought it would be funny.
Favorites are more like characters that the agent in question particularly enjoys within canonical material. An agent would react more strongly if a favorite character was altered by a badfic and driven to uncharacteristic acts, because they have a stronger investment in that character. Maybe, in a badfic, someone who is usually very humorous would start spewing the worst jokes or angsting in a corner, or the wise swordfighting mentor would make rudimentary battle mistakes. Even if they're not someone's favorite, it would be a charge either way, but if they are, the agent might start an angry rant or begin banging their head against nearby objects, or with the worst cases/with the most rage-prone agents, need to restrain themselves from going up and indignantly decking the replacement right in the face, which would reveal the PPC's presence too early. -
I think this kinda encapsulates... by
on 2014-04-07 03:07:00 UTC
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sexual vs romantic attraction. Lust Objects are clearly of a more sexual attraction sorta thing, whereas favourites have the potential to be simply the object of romantic/platonic attraction, which doesn't necessarily incorporate sexual attraction.
Therefore it's entirely likely that an asexual agent might have favourites, but not necessarily a lust object.
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my agents by
on 2014-04-06 15:53:00 UTC
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I have plans for 2 primary agents,both are in the DMS.
Agent #1 is named Emile Mannlicher. Mannlicher is from world one, and is 13 years old. Emile likes to hunt,and his preferred weapons are old pre or post WW2-era selfloading rifles and pistols(SVT-40,ZH-29,mondragon,Bergmann-bayard,etc.).
Personality-wise Emile is caustic,spiteful,and somewhat of a sadist. he is cold to anyone except his partner, Nagi.
he sees hunting mary sues to be somewhat of a game.
Emile has had turbulent middle school years. his best friend died of leukemia, which hurt him hard. he later was arrested for making terroristic threats towards another student who insulted his friend's grave. he was eventually convicted and had to leave the state to live with his grandmother in Montana. here,when his grandmother fell on hard times,Emile saw a job opportunity for the PPC and applied, to help out with his grandmother's financial problems.
After training, Emile was partnered up to Nagisa Kazuhiro,a persona-user, who later became his closest and only friend.
Nagisa "Nagi" Kazuhiro is from the persona video game series. his persona was artificially awakened,as part of the kirijo group's experiments at creating an artificial "wild card"(a wild card is someone who can use multiple personas)
Nagi eventually escaped from the kirijo group and was taken in by the nanjo group. after being adopted by the CEO, Kei Nanjo, who taught Nagi how to control his persona. he then fell through a plothole while on a walk one day.
He agreed to work for the PPC, and, after training, was partnered with Emile, with whom he shares a close bond.
Nagi's persona is known as python(not the snake,actually a dragon from Greek mythology. It manifests as an armored dragon-themed superhero dual wielding laser blades and with smoke trailing off it's extremities. Python uses predominantly wind and darkness magic,with some physical attacks.
Nagi is a kind,caring individual. he doesn't like Emile's depression fits and constantly asks his partner to be more respectful(Emile only respects the flowers).
despite these personality differences, Emile and Nagi are very close,loving friends
So,what do you think? are they cool?
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my agents by
on 2014-04-06 15:53:00 UTC
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I have plans for 2 primary agents,both are in the DMS.
Agent #1 is named Emile Mannlicher. Mannlicher is from world one, and is 13 years old. Emile likes to hunt,and his preferred weapons are old pre or post WW2-era selfloading rifles and pistols(SVT-40,ZH-29,mondragon,Bergmann-bayard,etc.).
Personality-wise Emile is caustic,spiteful,and somewhat of a sadist. he is cold to anyone except his partner, Nagi.
he sees hunting mary sues to be somewhat of a game.
Emile has had turbulent middle school years. his best friend died of leukemia, which hurt him hard. he later was arrested for making terroristic threats towards another student who insulted his friend's grave. he was eventually convicted and had to leave the state to live with his grandmother in Montana. here,when his grandmother fell on hard times,Emile saw a job opportunity for the PPC and applied, to help out with his grandmother's financial problems.
After training, Emile was partnered up to Nagisa Kazuhiro,a persona-user, who later became his closest and only friend.
Nagisa "Nagi" Kazuhiro is from the persona video game series. his persona was artificially awakened,as part of the kirijo group's experiments at creating an artificial "wild card"(a wild card is someone who can use multiple personas)
Nagi eventually escaped from the kirijo group and was taken in by the nanjo group. after being adopted by the CEO, Kei Nanjo, who taught Nagi how to control his persona. he then fell through a plothole while on a walk one day.
He agreed to work for the PPC, and, after training, was partnered with Emile, with whom he shares a close bond.
Nagi's persona is known as python(not the snake,actually a dragon from Greek mythology. It manifests as an armored dragon-themed superhero dual wielding laser blades and with smoke trailing off it's extremities. Python uses predominantly wind and darkness magic,with some physical attacks.
Nagi is a kind,caring individual. he doesn't like Emile's depression fits and constantly asks his partner to be more respectful(Emile only respects the flowers).
despite these personality differences, Emile and Nagi are very close,loving friends
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Whoa, cool your jets, dude. by
on 2014-04-06 17:13:00 UTC
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You've now started three new threads in a row. This is discouraged, because it knocks older threads that may still be active down and eventually OFF the front page. We'd much rather that you add onto a thread you already started, or other existing threads on similar topics. If there aren't any, then create a new one, but please don't start multiple new threads in a row.
As for the characters, "coolness" is not really what you should be worrying about when it comes to PPC agents. What you ought to be worrying about is whether they're well conceived, three-dimensional, sympathetic, and entertaining. By that measure, I'm afraid you're missing the mark so far.
I'm gonna tell you straight up that I would never grant Permission for a character designed to be sadistic and having a history of making terroristic threats. I doubt any of the other PGs would, either. That kind of character is not fun to read about in what's supposed to be a humorous adventure through a piece of so-bad-it's-funny fanfic.
The other character doesn't have much of a description beyond his powers—not even what he looks like. (And you didn't describe Agent #1, either.) I don't know enough about the continuum to know whether Agent #2 is overpowered or not, but it concerns me that that's what you focus on rather than who he is as a human being (or whatever species he is). You've given him that he's nice and gets along with his partner, which is fine, but his personality needs a lot more fleshing out before he'll be a solid character.
Also, please work on your capitalization and punctuation. Words at the beginning of new sentences need capitals, and most punctuation requires a space between the punctuation mark and the following word. You seem to particularly struggle with putting a space after each comma. Please study how punctuation is used in the books you read and how others write here on this Board.
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On the Persona character... (POTENTIAL SPOILERS!) by
on 2014-04-07 13:59:00 UTC
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...yeah, I'm getting massively mixed signals on this.
Okay, so first we have to place this game within the series. Considering that this character's backstory involves the Kirijo Group, this places us squarely in Persona 3, which is worth noting since the summoning of personas differs in each installment of the series. They are technically all in the same universe considering that characters from Persona 2 are mentioned in Persona 3 (and then considering that characters from Persona 3 show up in Persona 4 Arena), but the Persona summoning works differently between each game, and that's kind of important to note when talking about Persona.
Now, Nagi is supposed to be an experiment to be a Wild Card. As Des pointed out, it is indeed an ability only accessible to the protagonist, and it's been outright stated even in the early parts of the game that his case is a very special one. Now, apparently Nagi didn't get the ability considering that 7.65 only gave him one Persona: if Nagi did have the Wild Card, he would be able to switch between Personas any time he wanted instead of just being stuck with one (and trust me: it is virtually impossible to advance through Persona 3 if you don't constantly make the protagonist switch Personas). So on the Wild Card, it's a rather tough call, edging towards the not-Stu side in my opinion.
What's less difficult to call, though, is that he was part of experiments with the Kirijo Group. In this account, I would say he is pretty speshul because, at least from what I have played, he should not have turned out the way he did. See, there is a precedent for that in canon: the protagonist is opposed by a group of three artifical Persona users who call themselves Strega. They were the product of a bunch of Kirijo Group experiments, though their end goal was to just awaken their Persona, rather than to give them the Wild Card ability. Problem is, the three members of Strega have tons of mental issues, depending on the members: most notably is that the only girl in the group, Chidori Yoshino, is shown to have a dependence on her Evoker that functions almost like a drug addiction. Further, the group as a whole seems to function on a rather hedonistic philosophy, considering how they use the Dark Hour for their own monetary benefit. In addition, since their Personas weren't awakened naturally, they need to take a suppressant to keep their Persona from outright killing them. So overall, I feel that being part of experiments of the Kirijo Group would have severely traumatized Nagi. Now, this would all be fine if this was reflected in the character, but from what 7.65 has said, Nagi's personality seems to be "Yukari Takeba, except he takes charge a little more often", indicating that such a potentially traumatic past had very little effect on him. So I would call him speshul just based on this alone, and it's this among other things that sort of reads a bit on the Stu-ish side for me. And that's before we go into how Persona 3 wouldn't have a plot if it weren't for the Kirijo Group.
Then there's the fact that he goes to the Nanjo Group from the Kirijo Group. The Nanjo Group works pretty closely with the Kirijo Group, believe it or not, so I find it tough to believe that the Nanjo Group would just keep him around when it might present a conflict of interest given that they still do work together. Granted, they did used to be part of the same group before the Kirijo Group split from Mr. Nanjo, but they still work together on a lot of things.
So I would say that Nagi is kinda close to being qualified as a Gary Stu in terms of Persona 3. Granted, I haven't played Persona 3 all the way to the end, so take it with a grain of salt: but if I were a PG, I would be extremely hesitant to grant permission to 7.65 based solely on the fact that Nagi is too close to being a Gary Stu for comfort.
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you just gave me some ideas by
on 2014-04-08 01:11:00 UTC
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so,you thought Nagi is speshul.
well then,featuring the new and improved Nagisa Kazuhiro!
Nagi used to have to take the same drugs as strega until he joined the PPC. the flowers saw Nagi's dependence on a lethal drug to be a liability,so the Yuuzahn vong shapers in the employ of DoSAT gave him a biotech parasite that helps him control his persona.
Nagi was quite young when he was experimented on(around 7-8)
so when he escaped,he was pretty much like strega:hedonistic,violent,and tough to handle.
after being adopted by the nanjo group,he went through psychological therapy and was given drugs to help repress his memories. the Nagi you see today is the result of this
Nagi's wild card is severely neutered compared to the protagonists. he can only use 4 personas at a time,and those personas are pretty weak,the most skills one possess are 4.
does this make him more speshul? or does it flesh him out.
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Okay, I might be wrong about this... by
on 2014-04-08 02:43:00 UTC
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...but to me, you've basically admitted that you didn't think about any of this stuff before I brought it up, 'cause you basically just regurgitated everything I said and called it "fleshing out the character". Which, fine, that's better than nothing, but I'll get to the new logic issues that this brings up.
See, here's the thing I need to mention that points to a larger problem here: to my mind, you've confirmed that it's not an issue of "I have fleshed out the characters and I just have difficulty writing that", as much as it is a case of "oops, I didn't think that far ahead". See, that right there is the reason why Rule of Cool is such a problem in badfic. Badfic authors constantly think "well, how cool would it be if this character was this or could do these things" without thinking about them from a logical standpoint within the context of the story they're in. As such, things happen that make no damn sense.
My classic example? Parallel Realities, which was a terrible Mass Effect fanfic which involved some stupid AU where Commander Shepard was a not-human alien from another reality with its own set of aliens. Now, Shepard constantly tells us in that fic that his galaxy can't reveal themselves because "dude, the Council would subjugate us 'cause we have all this stuff". Problem is, the author then decided "hm, I should let the Rule of Cool apply to these alien races and make them as badass as possible". So later in the fic, you were seeing their ships do things like take out an entire batarian slaver fleet, and take out four Reapers with one shot. They mention that their numbers are too low, but their technology is way advanced to make up for this. The problem there is that it ruins any credibility Shepard had, because the fact that they can take out four Reapers with one weapon indicates that they would in fact have the technology to not be subjugated by the Council. Because of the Rule of Cool, the author of that fic invalidated his own main character's reasoning for not doing something pretty significant, and as a result a large part of the plot became rather stupid (not to mention that it made it obvious that the only reason they weren't intervening was because there would be less plot regurgitation that way).
That's the kind of thing that unchecked Rule of Cool can do to a fanfic. And from what I'm seeing here, you're currently in that same mindset. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but you need to slow down and really think about the characters and their backstories before doing stuff.
Okay. Back to the character.
Now we have new problems that're brought up. So he was given drugs to repress his memories? Um... pardon my vernacular, but you do realize how ...ed up that sounds, right? "Oh, he's a problem, but that's okay: just throw some memory repression drugs at him and it'll be all fine!" I'm pretty sure it doesnt work like that: what if he's resistant to them? What if he goes off his meds for even one second? Wha then? And on top of that, memory repression drugs do not work like that in anything that isn't To The Moon. Granted, Medical probably could come up with something like that, but someone in Persona? Um, no. I doubt it, nor do I think that the suppression of memory would exactly be the right solution to his issues. I would say more, but I'd have to bring in my friend who's currently getting a degree in criminal psychology and I really, really don't want to drag him into any more discussions about badfic psychology than I already have.
Second of all, you've just made Nagi overpowered with the Wild Card. I'm not sure you understand this, but the Wild Card is a protagonist-centered ability, and said protagonists are said to be special by the canon. So you see, even in the canon they know it's unusual. By the very nature of Wild Card as a special ability, you're making your character speshul in a way that few canon characters would be. It doesn't matter how much you neuter his ability, it's still special according to the canon. This wouldn't be as bad if this was the main character of a different group that had nothing to do with anything related to Persona 3 (as well as any of the other Persona installments), but the fact that it's dealing with Persona 3 just makes this worse for me.
And for the record, the only one who has Wild Card is the player character himself (and Aigis in "The Answer", but for her it's an even more special case considering that she loses an ability she had in the main game to get Wild Card). All the other members of SEES get one Persona that evolves as the game goes. Their Persona evolves into another one, but they still only keep one Persona. You may notice that this is NOT the same as being able to summon multiple Personas. Therefore, I have no idea why you said "protagonists", plural.
Third: So if Nagi had never been given meds, he'd be exactly like your other character? I guess that's good to know that we're dealing with two of the same exact character here.
Fourthly, what good would a biotech parasite do to keep a Persona from killing him? Personas function through willpower: they're manifestations of the personality of the characters that unleash them, and it's revealed in "The Answer" that the Personas are tamed Shadows. The reason they went with drugs in the canon is because psychiatric drugs in the real world affect how the brain works. How would something that works on the body help control a matter of the mind?
And lastly, branching off from the above point: the reasoning of the above point is probably the deal breaker for me, and I'm sure it would be a deal breaker for any PG here. To me, this tells me that you don't seem to understand how Personas work. Let me repeat that: this tells me that you don't seem to understand how the Personas--the things that make the entire plot possible, the things that get tons of exposition for, and the things that make up the frickin' name of the frickin' continuum--work in the canon. This right here is the most damning thing to me in terms of everything you've written down. Your character is written in such a way that it disregards how Personas work in the canon, which means that it's a massive canon violation. And frankly, it doesn't matter if you do know how Personas work: it still indicates a lack of thought on your end. If your attempt to "flesh out" the character involves completely breaking the most important part of the canon, why should we trust that you'd have the judgment necessary to be able to give an accurate assessment of the problems of various badfics in any continuum?
Now, I'm not a PG, so someone else may see this differently, but if I were a PG, I'd tell you to take it all back to the drawing board and start over. Frankly, I don't think you're ready to write for the PPC in any capacity.
But you know what? That's okay. Not all of us in the PPC write missions. Most of us are here to learn, as well as to make fun of bad writing. I do think that the character here exhibits some major Gary Stu tendencies, but I can tell that you're passionate about writing nevertheless. That's a good thing: now all that's left is to filter that passion so you can do it right. And that can be done by slowing down and not jumping into things.
The creative process is not something that happens instantaneously. It needs to come at the right pace, and in this case I think the right pace will come from you slowing down and thinking a little more about what you want to write. -
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on 2014-04-09 08:39:00 UTC
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Nagi actually has dissociative identity disorder
he has a more violent alternate identity with it's own persona,Keres
the parasite can only help him control python,not Keres
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How in the world is that supposed to be funny? by
on 2014-04-09 18:05:00 UTC
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Hiding something in their past is a reasonable thing for agents to do. However, giving an agent an actual, World One, horribly devastating psychological disorder is not funny. I have doubts that you have researched this disorder beyond seeing it in media (where it is often portrayed as something to be laughed at-not with-AT). They GET IT WRONG--very, very wrong. People living with a dissociative disorder are not typically extremely functional people in day to day life, and DID is the most severe of the bunch.
An excerpt from Psych Central
"In fact, persons suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder often seek treatment for a variety of other problems including depression, mood swings, difficulty concentrating, memory lapses, alcohol or drug abuse, temper outbursts, and even hearing voices, or psychotic symptoms. People with dissociation often also seek treatment for a variety of medical problems including headaches, unexplained pains, and memory problems." -
it's not supposed to be funny by
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I've read a psychology textbook and I know how DID works.
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I've written a character with a case similar to DID. by
on 2014-04-10 12:50:00 UTC
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That's to say, they had an alter-ego who comes out more or less every other chapter, though the alter-egos knew about one another.
It wasn't for the PPC, but it was for something related to the PPC (the Official Fanfiction Universities), but similar premises hold true for the OFUs as they do for the PPC. This character's identity crisis wasn't necessarily played for laughs, but it wasn't played up for drama, either. -
This is... by
on 2014-04-10 01:04:00 UTC
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why I have a problem with both of your agents.
From the Spirit of the PPC section of the Guide to the PPC:
Let me highlight a paragraph of that.
Put as simply as possible, the PPC is about having fun.
This means that the primary focus of our stories and interactions is comedy, and that we don’t like rainy-day types very much. Anyone taking things Too Seriously or who doesn’t enjoy our particular brand of silliness probably won’t have fun here. This is all done for the laughs; we’re not going to change that. We love the PPC just the way it is – with no logic, no sanity, and above all, no realism. After all, we have miniature fiery demons pop into existence every time a random author misspells a name, and our Headquarters requires a six-dimensional map – this place couldn’t touch “realistic” with a ten mile pole
And from the What NOT to Write section of that guideline:
We don’t want to see any SuperPowered Agents walking around. This place is not about who can be the “coolest” agent, who has the best weapons, or who can handle the most disgusting badfic. This is not a competition. We don’t want dark, aggressive stories – we want humour, and rest assured that the community at large will respond quickly if things start getting out of hand.
I'm not calling you a bad writer (or person) for coming up with dark characters. Personally, I write horribly dark urban fantasy original fiction on occasion. My fanfic tends to be dark as well. The thing to remember is that the PPC is not the place for those kinds of characters and stories, so when you tell me, 'This isn't for comedic purposes,it's serious and causes Nagi a lot of pain.' I have to think that you are missing a large part of the basic principles that make up the PPC.
Also, aside from concerns I have about a 13 year old agent, which are my own since there is ample precedent for agents that young, the weapons you listed Emile as preferring are big, heavy things that will kick like a mule. You didn't mention height, so going by the CDC growth chart for Caucasian males, Emile at average height for 13 would only be about 5'2" or 62 inches and weigh just over 100 pounds. Those rifles range from 43" to 49" long and from 8 lbs to almost 12 lbs in weight. My mom is 5'6" and owns a rifle of similar size. She had to have a custom short stock installed to allow her to properly hold the rifle. Those rifles kick HARD even when held properly. While I don't believe it would be impossible for a 5'2" person to safely shoot those rifles, I doubt it would be much fun for them. -
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on 2014-04-10 06:25:00 UTC
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you want them redesigned?
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what do you want changed? by
on 2014-04-10 06:35:00 UTC
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what would make them fit more with the PPC's humorous style?
I could redesign Nagi,but what of Emile?
Nord's idea just makes you angrier,huh.
well then,do I need any more proof that my writing skills are horrible?!
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Whoops! by
on 2014-04-12 05:07:00 UTC
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Guess I made it worse, somehow. And no, going from the messages, I actually didn't suggest what 7.65x54R did in his rebuttal. I actually suggested that he should tone it down and to remove the Wild Card aspect from his Agent. Apologies for the miscommunication.
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And to expand, the Agent's Persona was pretty strong (but not as strong as the protagonists from the games/animes), but to summon it, he has to draw into his memories, which he tried to repress. Hope that helps.
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First order of business: calm down. by
on 2014-04-10 12:53:00 UTC
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The first thing you need to change is that you need to calm down. Going into "?!" isn't going to help anyone, least of all yourselves.
And now, we need to establish something: if you're thinking of us as angry at it, then... well, I imagine that if your character's "redesign" involves trivializing a very serious mental illness, Miah probably was a little miffed.
So ultimately, the answer to all of your questions is: the best way to deal with the Sue Curse is to slow down and think about the characters you're creating for longer than two seconds. Don't just throw characteristics at your characters: think about how these characteristics could affect the characters first and how that might affect other characters. And most importantly, don't think of the "what", but of the "who"; and yes, there's a pretty big difference between the two. As one of Wil Wheaton's guests on TableTop once said: "who are these people, what do they want, and why should I give a shit?" are the three most important rules of writing.
Thirdly, take your time. Improvement doesn't come immediately. Hell, I used to be a terrible author in my own right (and in fact, I'm currently in the process of MSTing one of my old shames elsewhere on the internet), but I eventually got better. I'm almost certain that you'll get better too.
All in all, it takes time to be able to write stuff pretty well. So don't be afraid of not producing anything immediately. You don't have to.
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good idea by
on 2014-04-11 00:17:00 UTC
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I didn't trivialize DID,I know how it works.
so,try to slow down my thought processes,huh
I have books on how to write,so maybe I should read them.
are you saying I should take my time to write? if so,I will.
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Knowing how something works... by
on 2014-04-11 04:53:00 UTC
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...is not the important part, I'm afraid. In this case, it's not a question of "do you know how it works" as much as it is a case of "do you know how serious it really is". If you can't grasp just how serious the topic is, then you shouldn't be writing with it in mind, it's simple as that. You can play the topic as something painful for the character and still trivialize it, you know?
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I think what Herr meant by "take your time"... by
on 2014-04-11 03:37:00 UTC
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...is essentially "write a lot of things, review your work, and find your voice". If you keep writing things (short stories, one-shots, anything at all) while listening to feedback, you'll see your skills improve over time. Patience is key here.
Just a little comment on your spelling, punctuation, and grammar: make sure you capitalize the beginning of all your sentences and put a space after commas. You also don't need to start a new paragraph for every sentence you start. This will make your text appear a whole lot neater. -
oh fine! by
on 2014-04-10 06:25:00 UTC
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you want them redesigned?
tell me,what would make them less sueish?
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But the PPC is supposed to be funny. (nm) by
on 2014-04-10 00:33:00 UTC
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rebuttal by
on 2014-04-09 08:39:00 UTC
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Nagi actually has dissociative identity disorder
he has a more violent alternate identity with it's own persona,Keres
the parasite can only help him control python,not Keres
Emile finds this out at the worst possible moment,as Nagi has been hiding this from Emile to make sure people would not be concerned about him. -
I am cursed by
on 2014-04-08 10:54:00 UTC
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I have the creative abilities of a 12-year old fangirl
I have this thing known as a "sue curse" that basically makes any non-conceptual character I create horrible
the last time I had creative abilities that were admirable was in the 4th grade.
I fail at literally everything that I like.
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Banish that thought. by
on 2014-04-08 18:05:00 UTC
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You're not cursed. What you need to do, as other people said, is to calm down and be patient. Everybody started as a newb - look at me, it took me a year and four tries to get Permission (had problems with, at that order, lack of plot, beigeness, and purpleness) - the trick is to learn from your mistakes. When you redesign Nagi, you should probably take a look at this; it's sound advice.
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got it (nm) by
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Off-topic, but... by
on 2014-04-08 07:37:00 UTC
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>"seeing their ships do things like take out an entire batarian slaver fleet, and take out four Reapers with one shot"
Would you care to elaborate? 'Cause the only thing that I can imagine oneshotting a Reaper is a Yamato Cannon blast. -
Sure. by
on 2014-04-08 12:50:00 UTC
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It's a bit more complicated than that anyway, since with some of it you really do need to see their tactics:
With the batarian slaver fleet, it was that there was one parallel galaxy ship against three batarian slavers. First, the batarian slavers open fire, which doesn't do a single thing against the barriers of the parallel galaxy's ship. (Literally, it's described in-story as "shields are still at 100%".) Then, the parallel galaxy's ship pulls off a turn that would logically shear most ME galaxy ships in half. And then, the parallel galaxy has this super-advanced AI that can jump between pieces of hardware at will, and hey have enough of those on board that they're able to take over the computer systems of each ship to keep the batarians from using them. And when the parallel galaxy storms the ships, the batarians' guns don't do a single thing to them. Logically, most of this would be powerful against the ME galaxy, so...
And as for "taking out four Reapers with one shot", they basically just fired a glorified mining laser at one specific Reaper and happened to get four of them at the same time. Granted, the weapon does seem to be cumbersome to aim, but c'mon, four reapers in one hit? That's still overpowered! -
RE:my agents by
on 2014-04-06 23:24:00 UTC
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sorry
I have difficulty putting pen to paper,so while they are fleshed out,I have difficulty writing that down.
Emile will provide some dark humor,and he's not all serious.But Nagi's the primary source of any humor.
As for the physical descriptions, Emile is 5'1 with a moderately light build. He his skin is lightly tanned and he has brown,spiky hair.
Nagi is also 5'1,but is much more slender,with paler skin and he has blond,bowl-cut hair.
As mentioned, My characters were designed to be fleshed out,but I have difficulty writing those parts down. -
The trouble is... by
on 2014-04-07 15:41:00 UTC
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This group was founded largely on the expectation that an author should put in the effort to polish their writing before they publish it. You should absolutely write if you want to write, but if you struggle with putting your ideas into written words, it's gonna take a lot more effort for you to get your work up to a presentable level. You might want to consider finding a co-writer—maybe an IRL friend—who understands your ideas and can help with the actual writing part.
Again, though, I want to stress that the PPC is not about dark humor. It's not about killing things for fun and profit. It's also not about cool powers and/or lots of ammo. Building these concepts into your characters will cause you problems, even if your writing is technically perfect.
From the PPC Badfic page of the wiki:
The PPC is about a rag-tag band of normal (if more than a little eccentric) people of all species desperately trying to make the multiverse a better place despite staggering odds and surrealistically bizarre working conditions. No one would do this job without a deep love for the various canons to drive them to it, because they don't have it easy. Nor should they, because that would be boring to read about. However, ninety percent of the time, this difficulty should be a source of humor, not drama. At the end of the day, we're simply here to have a laugh at bad fanfic. Please bear that in mind.
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can you be my co-writer? by
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I don't have any IRL friends right now.
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I can help. by
on 2014-04-08 21:15:00 UTC
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I have free time and writer's block problems (thanks, army) but I do want to help. Plus, getting more characters to bounce my agents off is always good.
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I'm sorry, but that wouldn't work out. by
on 2014-04-08 16:01:00 UTC
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There are many reasons, chiefest among which is that I have way too much on my plate and I'm failing pretty hard at keeping my commitments as it is. *pulls Hat of Shame down over her eyes* So, I just don't have that kind of time or energy to spare. Also, I don't think we have any major fandoms in common, probably because I'm 28 and you're not. (How old are you?)
If it's friends you lack, what I recommend is to table your agent ideas for the time being and just hang out with us and chat about general stuff so you can make some friends here. You should also use the time to work on your typing, read more spin-offs, and learn more about how the PPC works. That way, you'll be better prepared for creating good PPC characters in the future.
And, most of all, I hope you'll have fun! There's a lot more to us than agents and missions, and I think the people who appreciate that have the best time here. {= )
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The trouble is... by
on 2014-04-07 15:41:00 UTC
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This group was founded largely on the expectation that an author should put in the effort to polish their writing before they publish it. You should absolutely write if you want to write, but if you struggle with putting your ideas into written words, it's gonna take a lot more effort for you to get your work up to a presentable level. You might want to consider finding a co-writer—maybe an IRL friend—who understands your ideas and can help with the actual writing part.
Again, though, I want to stress that the PPC is not about dark humor. It's not about killing things for fun and profit. It's also not about cool powers and/or lots of ammo. Building these concepts into your characters will cause you problems, even if your writing is technically perfect.
From the PPC Badfic page of the wiki:
The PPC is about a rag-tag band of normal (if more than a little eccentric) people of all species desperately trying to make the multiverse a better place despite staggering odds and surrealistically bizarre working conditions. No one would do this job without a deep love for the various canons to drive them to it, because they don't have it easy. Nor should they, because that would be boring to read about. However, ninety percent of the time, this difficulty should be a source of humor, not drama. At the end of the day, we're simply here to have a laugh at bad fanfic. Please bear that in mind.
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OPness by
on 2014-04-06 20:12:00 UTC
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I don't know Persona, so I asked a few friends who did play the games. Wild Card is a) incredibly powerful and b) basically a protagonist-only ability.
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sorry for making a new thread, but i would like some help.. by
on 2014-04-07 01:32:00 UTC
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on this fantasy webcomic I've been trying to get off the ground. I would very much like some critique on some of my ideas for it. As well as some help with some idea block I have on a few things (mostly on the deities/religion of the world and a few other things).
The reason I'm asking for help on The Board is because some one in my class said I should ask for some outside opinions and The Board was the first thing that popped into my head. :)
to clarify, the main premise is a DnD type fantasy world but with modern day tech, entertainment, and science to some extent. I've named the world Stro, first original sounding world name that popped into my head. -
Urban fantasy? Count me in! (nm) by
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I'd like to help by
on 2014-04-07 05:03:00 UTC
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Urban fantasy? Ideas? I'm your girl.
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Interesting Premise by
on 2014-04-07 04:46:00 UTC
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I always love to hear about other people's worlds. However, since you said this would be a webcomic, my first question has to be will you have enough time to devote to drawing the comic?
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I'd love to help by
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I love the idea of fantasy worlds in modern times. What are your ideas so far? What genre is it? Who are the charcters? I really want to know,your first idea sounds awesome
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Me too by
on 2014-04-07 02:31:00 UTC
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So,it's an urban fantasy. these are pretty cool.
just tell me more details and I can help,too
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Gushing about charcters you like by
on 2014-04-07 02:20:00 UTC
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The PPC version! Here you can tell us all about characters you like, vent anger about how their treated in canon, and talk about how they influenced you
Here are me choices:
Lucy(Fairy Tail)
I see a lot of myself in Lucy. We're both bookish blondes with a tendency to freak out. I was going through a dark period in my life, and this anime helped me get through it. I believe part of that was the fact that I could easily relate to Lucy. She also had the awesome ability to summon spirits from another dimension. She might not have always fought herself, But I wasn't always a violent person (Back then)
Lenalee (D.Grayman)
Lenalee is a character that's really abused in fandom. Possibly because she's one of the only girls in the main cast. It's a shame really because she's such a good character. When she was introduced she was a sweet motherly was always protecting people. We later learn she was taken away from her brother-the only suriving member of her family- and had been horribly abused by the organization that she worked for, but stuck with said organization because she wanted to protect the people she loved. Lenalee was also a badass fighter, able to take down a level 3 akuma on her own, which was the strongest akuma the group had faced at that point. (Although she did lose her powers afterword)
Maka (Soul Eater)
Maka was a very nice surprise for me. Put yourselves in my shoes for a minute, I'll walk you through it.You are a young teen girl, who likes supernatural action shows, but hates how the girls never get as much action as the boys do. You hear about this awesome anime, and deiced to check it out. That anime opens with a demon killing a woman before going after another victim. Then he is interrupted by the arrival of two teenagers, who claim that his soul belongs to them. THEN THE BOY TURNS INTO A WEAPON, WHICH THE GIRL USES TO KICK THE MONSTERS ASS. Yes, that had to be in all capitals, it was that awesome. And Maka continued to be a badass, as well as a character I could relate to.
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Well, my list is ever changing, but my current favourite character is by far the Doctor (not that one!) from Star Trek: Voyager. He's just so sarcastic. And he's got those quips.
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Let's see... by
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Hermione appealed to me enough to be my username. We're both bookish straight A students (or rather, I would be if I didn't have massive senioritis right now) who value grades but will put them aside for their values. We both fear failure. We even kind of look alike.
Data (Star Trek TNG) is just one of my favorite fictional characters of all time. He's a lovely paradox - a cold, emotionless android who is incredibly kind and caring. He's superior to humans in many ways, knows he is, and yet wants to be human. He doesn't understand humanity but he ends up understanding all the important things about it. His journey is by turns hilarious (Sherlock Holmes cosplaying), heartbreaking (his daughter Lal), adorable (he has a striped cat named Spot), heartwarming (his views on his friendship with Geordi), and powerful (his fight to be recognized as a person). I love him so much.
Garak (Star Trek DS9) is completely amazing and it pains me that he isn't a regular. I know he really couldn't be, but still, I thoroughly enjoy every moment he's on screen. First of all, he's hilarious. His sort of lying charm is fun to watch, and his inability to be straightforward means he's unpredictable. You don't know who's side he's on, but his actor is a master of subtext and you get subtle hints about his true feelings and his back story. I adore his relationship with Bashir because the chemistry of naïve Starfleet human and morally ambiguous alien is so good.
Loki (Avengers), what do I say about him? He's been interpreted so many different ways and I don't think either "misunderstood baby" or "violent psychopath" are entirely correct. My interpretation is the same as Tom Hiddleston's. I don't want to try to say it as well as Tom, so if you want to know just look it up.
Dorothy (Wizard of Oz) had a very important impact on me as a little kid. Heck, I still admire her. I understand feeling like your life is dull and dreaming of going to fantastical places. I still do that. I want to go on my own quests and take control of my own destiny. Plus, I could go on for hours about the way those books are more feminist than books being written now. Short version: Oz is a matriarchy.
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Homura Akemi (Puella Magi Madoka Magica)
There's two types of characters I like most: badasses and adorable girls. Homura has been both.
And about abuse, oooh boy. Homura got it hard. Pretty much the only things she lacks in that department are abusive parents (it's implied she's an orphan, which is another can of trouble) and sexual abuse, but she's got basically everything else on the bad happenings list.
Add the fact that she used to be a shy, cute girl with health issues, and you know why pretty much every Boarder who has seen the series wants to give her an hug.
But another reason why I like her is because she doesn't mope about it.
She geared up and fought back, becoming probably one of the badassest characters out there. Her series is an harsh one for Magical Girls, and is out to break her twenty-four hours a day. And it broke her. But she taped her pieces together and kept going.
(Not going to open the can of evil that the Rebellion movie is. Let's just say that I would pull Homura (and probably Madoak and the other characters too) out of it if I had the chance.)
Sakura Kinomoto (Card Captor Sakura)
Well, should I call her "my old love"? There's something about this character that I always liked (and proof is the fact that I used a badfic clone of her as a basis for Nikki). Her hardships aren't comparable to Homura's, but Sakura's "Everything will be alright!" attitude is the charm. She's one of those characters that, even when scared or facing an apparently impossible deed, will not lose hope. She also has a clumsy, "funny" side that rounds her well.
Conan Edogawa/Shinichi Kudo (Detective Conan)
The not-so-kid detective. Aside from his almost inhuman investigation abilities, the reason why I like his character is that he always keeps a clear mind when facing problems, and manages to keep high moral values even when facing murderers almost daily. He won't let a murderer commit suicide or die from a danger if he can do it, and in fact even feels guilty for the only time he didn't manage too.
Of course, he has his funny sides too.
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Mini alert! by
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-Cuddles Madoak-
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Mini-Charlottes. by
on 2014-04-08 22:06:00 UTC
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So I hope you don't smell like cheese...
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-Sniffs- by
on 2014-04-08 22:14:00 UTC
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No, I smell like sweat, tea and almonds.
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RE: Gushing by
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First and foremost: Princess Twilight Sparkle. She reminds me of me--smart, freaks out about tests, isolated from society until recently, and learning about friendship. Besides that, magic happens to fascinate me. Watching Friendship is Magic always makes me feel better, and with a central character so strong and talented (and cute)...yeah. (Of course I love the other mane five, but Twilight is best pony.)
Second, most of the core cast of Fullmetal Alchemist. (Ed, Al, Roy, Hughes, Hawkeye, and Envy because shapeshifting.) The show was one of the first anime I really got into; I think I can still quote most of the first eight English episodes from memory, in the characters' voices. (I don't try with the chimera episode, though; too sad D:) The casting is perfect, the characters themselves have the best banter with each other, and to top it off, they're all total badasses.
Third, Tsunemori Akane, from Psycho-Pass. She seems like your standard cutesy protagonist at odds with the cyberpunk setting, but she gradually toughens up and, later in the run, KNOCKS OUT THE MAIN BAD GUY (a bigger maniac than the Joker and Moriarty together) WITH A HELMET HE DESIGNED! Akane is also able to keep her Hue clear (long story, go watch the show) no matter how creepy the cases are, which more or less means she can stay sane. I wish I had her mad skills: some of those cases were flat-out horrifying. *shudder*
Fourth, Rose Tyler. Anybody who can talk A FRIGGIN DALEK out of exterminating someone (even if it would have been a completely appropriate ironic death and said Dalek was genetically altered) gets major Badass Points in my book. More importantly, she and the Doctor play well off each other; it's like watching best friends bicker =D
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Re: Gushing about charcters you like by
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Barbara Chesterton (née Wright), who pioneered the Dalek-lens-blocking trick, smashed the mind-controlling entities that had ruled a city for some time, mowing down Daleks with a truck that hadn't been used in a long time, getting the Daleks into a panic with every bit of history she can dredge up, and surviving a fourth encounter with tougher Daleks than she's ever faced before according to Sarah Jane Smith. And if it weren't for the fact that Reapers would probably have turned up, I'd have said her attempt at an Aztec Reformation.
Sarah Jane. To quote Agent Tawaki, she has "helped the Doctor thwart two evil plans to 'save' the world, organized a mass escape attempt among doomed slaves, faced a variety of monsters and survived, ... [and] threatened to blow Davros to Hell".
K-9. Pretty handy when facing a non-First-Law-compliant robot parrot or aliens who have infiltrated a school staff with the intention of becoming gods. Has some great banter, too. Just don't tell it to "forget it" unless neuralyzing it. And why the [Old High Kaled expletive] did a fan have to make a lime of it and Mickey!?
Fluttershy. I'm just as afraid of harming others, and I really like birds. She also has a Stare that she has the character not to use for evil purposes, and she has a way with animals. But why the siiripat sulat did somepony have to make her mind-rape Rainbow Dash (or turn Dashie into a neo-Spartan foal-killer or turn Pinkie into Sweeney Trot, for that matter)?
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Pattycakes by
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The one where Fluttershy mind-rapes Rainbow Dash is a parody.
And to be fair and demonize all of the mane six, somebody made Twilight a mad scientist who tortures and murders her friends to extract their elements.
Haven't seen Rarity or Applejack go yet, but it's only a matter of time.
And someone needs to kill Rainbow Factory. Stat. If they won't, I will, once I get around to asking Permission.
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The Rainbow Factory has been missioned! by
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Intelligence report found here.
Actual mission by KittyNoodles (and Riese) part one and part two. -
Good. by
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Great! That thing really needed it.
And, just asking, the intelligence report said that the My Immortal mission has been completed. Yet, on the Wiki, it simply claims that the story is forthcoming.
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A sporking of My Immortal? by
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As far as I'm concerned, the mission has and always will be forthcoming.
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Re: Gushing about charcters you like by
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Faramir. He showed that the right thing can be done, even if it is painful, and he just kept going even when it was pretty much hopeless. I know he was supposed to be the opposite of Boromir, there to show the potential of Men and some people say he is too good as written, but when I first read LotR, I was very black and white thinking.
I went to a school with an atmosphere of abusing the kids, just because they had the opportunity to do so. Like actual physical abuse, an example would be a bus driver grabbing a first grader by the arm, picking him up over the seat, slamming him to the floor of the aisle, and then literally dragging him up the aisle, banging his head on seats and backpacks as he went. And verbal stuff like the teacher who felt it was perfectly allowable to call everyone in her room fat, lazy cows and tell us that she had a gun in her desk and wouldn't be afraid to use it on us. Honestly, she wasn't the worst (there was one guy who actively enjoyed mentally torturing the students, and was very good at it), just the most direct.
Anyway, a black and white thinker combined with that environment? Faramir was like a hope for the future that not everyone was like that, and sometimes people who were good came out the other side and got to have a good life. -
Oh boy... by
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Thane (Mass Effect)
Oh dear Lord, where do I begin with this guy? I can't tell you how much I love this character: everything from his design, to his characterization, to his romance arc in the second game of the series... Holy ...ing shit, I love this guy. The fact that he is the reason why I got into Mass Effect in the first place should tell you everything. Which makes it a shame that he was put to the side in ME3, and which makes it even worse that the fandom has neglected him completely since then: though I guess that's some comfort, considering that there was a lot of bad shipfic starring Thane...
Katniss Everdeen (Hunger Games)
I've seen people talk about how she's a Canon Sue, but personally I don't really buy that argument. Yeah, she's unusually gifted with a bow and the plot does sometimes make sure she doesn't kill anyone, and yeah she's certainly not the nicest girl in the world, which would make for a Sue most of the time, right? Not in this case: Katniss is kind of a mean girl, but it's all a function of the fact that she's living in a state of constant fear of losing those close to her because of the environment she was brought up in. And considering my heritage, I gravitate towards that quite a bit, and it annoys me when I see Sues that try to push her to the sidelines of her own story... -
Aaaaaaaaace. AAAAAAACE. by
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For anyone who doesn't know, Ace McShane is the Seventh Doctor's primary companion. She first met the Doctor in a Dalek-infested warzone, which she survived in by blowing them up with anti-tank rockets, her own homemade explosives (I have a badge that says "Ask me about Nitro-9!"), and a baseball bat. Yeah, you read that right. She attacked a Dalek with a baseball bat... and won. And she only gets more awesome from there.
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Oh, yes yes yes yes yes! Great furies, yes. (nm) by
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Rose! by
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Rose Tyler! The first Doctor Who companion I ever saw, and she really was epic. She stared into the Time Vortex and lived, and her as Bad Wolf.
This may or may not be the reason why I love Rose/10 fics.
I watched Doomsday on the weekend, and was SOBBING at the end. It was such a great episode. And they nearly confessed their love for each other!
That said, the sudden arrival of Donna Noble in her wedding dress was quite funny.
By the way, I love Fairy Tail, and Lucy. My favorite characters are Lucy, Erza and Mirajane. Strangely, not Juvia. She's more like comic relief to me...
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My family and I marathoned Doctor Who over the weekend but I was the only one who was crying during the Doomsday episode. And then mom called me 'too emotional'!
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Remus Lupin by
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The most tragic fictional character of all time, in my opinion. He was bitten by Greyback at the age of four, spent most of his childhood thinking he had no future, thought he'd lost all his friends in a single night and spent over a decade alone, was almost unable to find employment because of his condition, and when it finally seemed he found happiness- married to a woman who loved him regardless of that, had a son- he died. HOW IS THAT FAIR.
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Ooh! by
on 2014-04-07 08:28:00 UTC
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Well, currently, I'm going through a Codex Alera obsession-phase, so...
(Also, SPOILERS AHEAD. If you ever intend to read the series, stay away.)
Tavi. Tavar. Gaius Octavian. Gaius Tavarus Magnus. He is insane, and brilliant, and so wonderfully, absurdly clever. Watch him successfully hold a bridge, unexpectedly captain of a mostly-untrained Legion, while outnumbered 10 to 1 by nine-foot-tall wolfmen, and tell me he's not madly amazing. Or that duel with Navaris, one of the top three swordspeople in the world. He wins by talking to her about a pain they share. Or both variations on the theme of ice-ships. Or the fact that he broke into the most secure prison in the Realm. Twice. The second time after he suggested improvements. Or that he's gadara (trusted enemy, approximately) to a centuries-old Canim warmaster. Or, finally, that Realm-wide watercrafting he sent out to counter the vord Queen's. I could go on.
And his mother threw a shark onto a pirate ship. And then healed a life threatening injury in five minutes. Without a healing tub. And that's not even mentioning how she got High Lord Antillus's support. Snow for watercrafting! We know where Tavi got his creativity, certainly.
But honestly, over the past while, quite unexpectedly, Fidelias/Valiar Marcus has been growing on me. He's interesting, and though his name seems misleading at first, considering how he's the wild card of the cast (Invidia goes beyond wild card territory and straight into chronic backstabbing disorder), he's always, always, loyal to Alera as a whole. And he really did like being Valiar Marcus. It was good for him. Also, his resignation letter to Lady Aquitaine was sort of brilliant.
There are lots of other characters I could gush about, and not just Codex ones either (although a chance to go on about Varg is something I shall have to appropriate at some point), but it's late, I'm tired, and I should really be asleep. Night!
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Favorite Characters in Codex Alera by
on 2014-04-07 21:25:00 UTC
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I love Codex Alera too, but I can't really decide on my favorite character. So I'm just going to say "all of them, except perhaps Brencis".
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Well, yes, but Brencis is almost fun to hate. by
on 2014-04-07 22:10:00 UTC
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And Placida Aria is pure win.
But I totally agree. Everyone is awesome on Carna, with nearly no exceptions.
(My most hated is probably Sarl, because he manages to be an idiot, and allied with the vord, thereby wiping out nearly the entirety of Canea. Although Varg's comment about feeding him to the Tavar was pretty funny.)
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Re: Gushing about charcters you like by
on 2014-04-07 06:27:00 UTC
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Daniel Bryan Danielson (WWE): There's always times when one feels like they are being held back by the man and I can definitely see that bit of myself in him.
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Characters I love by
on 2014-04-07 04:54:00 UTC
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Lucy is my favorite Fairy Tail character. She is much saner than everyone else there, and she's hilarious. She also tries hard, and even though she's not as powerful as the rest of the cast, she still gets on and fights. She doesn't even make her celestial spirits do all the work.
I also kind of like Ron. He's a nice, loyal guy who's been through a lot. He's a great comfort to Harry, and the kind of friend that you can tell about you hilarious O.W.L. mistakes is completely priceless. I'd like a friend like that.
Ron is also completely abused. He's not hawt and he's not extraordinary in any way, so he's made into a jerk. Suethors really need to know that 'somewhat immature' does not mean 'completely evil'. His relationship with Hermione in canon was cute, and it's nice to see that the girl is not paired up with the main character for once. I hate Suethors who think that H/Hr should be the canon ship simply because of that expectation. Harry and Hermione are friends, and that should be quite enough.
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Introductory Post by
on 2014-04-07 04:37:00 UTC
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Um, Hi. I'm a bit new to the PPC, although I've hung around on the Wiki for a while. I read a lot, and I have a lot of fantoms, predominantly Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Dresden Files, Discworld, and My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic, but I'll read or watch anything kinda good. I have a lot of trouble saying what my absolute favorite would be.
I have three fanfics, one a parody of My Immortal by being its complete opposite (involving the Purity Sue werewolf Ivory Lightness Inno'cence Dove Way), which Mom has nearly shamed me into disowning, a fanfic based on the video game series Epic Battle Fantasy, and a crossover between the movie Pacific Rim and MLP FiM.
I also like role-play.
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Hello, hello! by
on 2014-04-08 01:49:00 UTC
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That My Immortal parody sounds magnificent! (Haven't read the original, but I have heard of it. *shivers*) Don't worry, it takes all kinds to make a community.
I see you're interested in different kinds of magic. Have a replica of Miss Tick's pointy hat, complete with flowers and a spring at the back ;) -
I Do Sci-Fi Too by
on 2014-04-08 02:12:00 UTC
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I am also interested in different kinds of FTL/laser guns/other staples of sic-fi.
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Welcome, welcome! by
on 2014-04-08 00:26:00 UTC
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My name is 99Hedgehog but feel free to call me 99. Anyways, here, have a Servo Skull!
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Hello there! by
on 2014-04-07 20:07:00 UTC
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Welcome! Let me point you toward the holy trinity of Constitution, Wiki and Original Series (links on top of the Board), and also give you a cup of tea, which most certainly won't try to eat you.
-Hides the skeletons-
Uhm. You said you write a parody of "My Immortal"? May we please have a link? I, at least, am curious. -
On the My Immortal Parody by
on 2014-04-07 21:13:00 UTC
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It's on Fanfiction.net, and it's called Till The World Ends (title taken from a Britney Spears song). I can't do any better until somebody tells me how to create a link here.
Warning: I tried to write the whole thing in Urple Prose, to contrast the beige of most of My Immortal.
Do note that it has only one chapter, and Mom is unhappy with me writing it (and, heck, even reading the original; too much swearing and blasphemy). She doesn't like people mocking things for their badness, because it'd embarrass the author (who might have matured quite a bit since writing the badfic).
P.S. I read them all before I got here (heck, I was pointed here by the Wiki). I thought it would be a good idea to brush up on my knowledge of the PPC before I tried to join. -
Hihihi by
on 2014-04-08 19:42:00 UTC
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I read it (courtesy link for everyone else) and it's actually pretty funny.
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Re: On the My Immortal Parody by
on 2014-04-08 12:33:00 UTC
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Hi, have some fudge!
The board can read HTML, I've been trying to get myself back up to speed so I don't have to cut and paste raw links. I haven't gotten very far into the site, but this one looks good so far. -
First plover! by
on 2014-04-07 17:29:00 UTC
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And ever since 2011, all plovers have been courtesy Fluttershy.
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Hiya! by
on 2014-04-07 15:49:00 UTC
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Always good to see a fellow Potterhead Brony. *hugs*
Have a moo-ing tortoise! Name him whatever you like, as long as you promise to keep him away from sawdust. He breathes fire.
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Oh hai there! by
on 2014-04-07 13:08:00 UTC
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We love newbies here, so take your shoes off, leave your sanity at the door, and come on in!
As a welcome gift, I gift you the music of one Karlheinz Stockhausen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzZfMzba5I -
*waves* by
on 2014-04-07 08:25:00 UTC
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Hello and welcome!
I give to you now a lined infinite notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver binding. Don't look at it straight on!
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Notebook by
on 2014-04-07 21:17:00 UTC
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Thanks for the notebook. I think I'll doodle all over the cover in glose, just to make it complete.
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Warm hugs by
on 2014-04-07 05:57:00 UTC
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Take this X-men jacket and Nightcrawler plushie
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Nightcrawler by
on 2014-04-07 21:15:00 UTC
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He's the blue, devilish-looking guy who can teleport and is a devout catholic, right?
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another new person by
on 2014-04-07 05:37:00 UTC
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well,hello.
I'm also new here.
so,you like old fantasy books,huh?
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Welcome to the Party by
on 2014-04-07 04:42:00 UTC
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Welcome to the board, I hope you have a good time while you're here. For your newbie gift, have a collection of potato chips that look like presidents. Because I'm sure that will come in handy at some point in time.
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Thanks by
on 2014-04-07 05:00:00 UTC
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Thank you. I really want to be part of the PPC, and I already have ideas for agents, and fics that I could spark, but I think that I should get into the community first.
Thank you for the potato chips. Which presidents do they look like?
P.S. In return for the chips, have some apple pie I begged off my dad. He makes great pie.
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*gulps* Permission, by
on 2014-04-07 12:00:00 UTC
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My Permission request!
After being at the PPC for about a year, I feel it's a good time to ask for permission.
So, I wrote my Agents, and here are the descriptions!
Kitty Eden
A seventeen year old girl with anger management issues. She’s a bit smaller than average height, and has shoulder length brown hair, which she keeps tied back in a ponytail. She’s most knowledgeable about the Harry Potter fandom, but keeps a bit of trivia about Doctor Who, Artemis Fowl and Percy Jackson stored inside her head.
Her main lust-object is (strangely) Colin Creevey, putting her apart from the rest of the Agents at the PPC. Her anger management issues come up when she, her mother, her cat, her brother, someone who she passed in the hallway earlier that morning, is insulted.
Oh yeah. She’s slightly insane.
Kitty works in the Department of Mary Sues, Harry Potter division.
Kay Eden
Kay is Kitty’s brother, and has sandy blonde hair. He’s 14, and is a head below Kitty, and she teases him mercilessly for it.
He’s slightly calmer than Kitty, but gets very hyperactive when on Gummy Worms. Thankfully, the candy is always hidden when he comes by. He likes big guns, but can’t use them, since he works in the HARRY POTTER Division. This makes him a little homicidal when the topic comes up.
He likes Luna Lovegood, but she’s not his lust-object, mainly because he ‘doesn’t consider it good for him to fixate on dreams’.
He is often in vivid debates with Kitty about various mechanics of the HP world, and they both consider the study of magic in different universe fascinating.
Kay works with Kitty in the Department of Mary Sues, Harry Potter division.
I wrote a story called 'In the Twisting of Fate', which is slightly dark, but has some humourous moments. The link is... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n7gdSpbnKplWgxkQypeHcuFmw45_Dh_65X-LphleVro/edit?usp=sharing/
Thank you to my wonderful aunt for editing.
And my sporking story...!
It's called 'rise of darkness'. I moved it to the Claimed Badfic area of the Wiki. The link is right here. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7175647/1/rise_of_darkness/
I tried to find at least a T-rated one, but, honestly, it was really hard. We need to start finding more lower-rated badfic.
Extremely nervous here.
Thanks a lot! And, as a partial bribe, here's the complete Divergent Series for and Permission Givers dropping by.
*laughs nervously*
No, it's not an actual bribe. Really.
Lotsa love,
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HIJACK!-sorta by
on 2014-04-09 23:15:00 UTC
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I have been wanting to introduce my agents, but didn't want to post a new thread. So with out farther ado
Seyche-a former Hetalia bit character,(From a fictional badfic) who managed to be pardoned from execution. She was instead brought to the PPC academy to be rehabilitated. She managed to get treated, and is now working for The Department of Research of Mary Sues. She has short hair-which she dyes blond-and hazel eyes, which are usually covered with sunglasses. She cannot remember her time as a bit character, but feels remorse for it anyway. She has a short temper and is quick with her fists, but is not very strong in a physical sense, so she can't really hurt anybody. She has a paralyzing fear of ducks
Murder-a survivor of a zombie apocalypses (which one is unknown) and is more then a little stir crazy. He got kicked out of The Department of Mary Sues for an unknown incident involving Rainbow Dash and a frying pan. He cannot speak, but communicates in odd gestures that only Seyche can understand. He is trigger happy and will attack anything that doesn't look human with whatever he has on hand. He has pink hair, tanned skin, and bright blue eyes. He always wears a pair of broken glasses.
If any part of these characters sounds to Sueish let me know. I have gotten a lot of school work done, so I should start working on a sample as soon as I figure out where to send it
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HIJACK!-sorta by
on 2014-04-09 23:15:00 UTC
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I have been wanting to introduce my agents, but didn't want to post a new thread. So with out farther ado
Seyche-a former Hetalia bit character,(From a fictional badfic) who managed to be pardoned from execution. She was instead brought to the PPC academy to be rehabilitated. She managed to get treated, and is now working for The Department of Research of Mary Sues. She has short hair-which she dyes blond-and hazel eyes, which are usually covered with sunglasses. She cannot remember her time as a bit character, but feels remorse for it anyway. She has a short temper and is quick with her fists, but is not very strong in a physical sense, so she can't really hurt anybody. She has a paralyzing fear of ducks
Murder-a survivor of a zombie apocalypses (which one is unknown) and is more then a little stir crazy. He got kicked out of The Department of Mary Sues for an unknown incident involving Rainbow Dash and a frying pan. He cannot speak, but communicates in odd gestures that only Seyche can understand. He is trigger happy and will attack anything that doesn't look human with whatever he has on hand. He has pink hair, tanned skin, and bright blue eyes. He always wears a pair of broken glasses.
If any part of these characters sounds to Sueish let me know. I have gotten a lot of school work done, so I should start working on a sample as soon as I figure out where to send it -
I didn't know the PPC had an academy. by
on 2014-04-11 00:48:00 UTC
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Usually bit characters are spared, unless they are uncanonical (like, they couldn't fit into the Canon as background extras) and directly involved in aiding and abetting the Sue. Those with a bit of a personality are recruited; others are let back into the Canon with their memories wiped.
Also, it's the Department of Mary Sue Experiments and Research. It would be helpful if you got the Department that your Agents work for right. -
I assumed they had to learn their skills somewhere by
on 2014-04-11 04:19:00 UTC
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Sorry about getting it wrong. I remembered seeing a research department from the wiki. Obviously I should study it some more.
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Skills, what skills? by
on 2014-04-11 04:42:00 UTC
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Training at the PPC usually runs the gamut of 'tossing the agent at a warrior!Sue to see who survives', 'tagging along with more experienced agents' (that's the internship programme in its more practical appearances), 'a quick seminar on weapons and then we're off to slay the Sue', and 'impromptu military bootcamp in the middle of the hallway'. It really depends on the Agent being subjected to the training, as the PPC is played for laughs and it's funnier to toss complete incompetents into situations that get them way in over their heads.
So no, there's never really any standardised form of training; it's just what seems funniest. -
Training? Whatchoo talkin' 'bout? by
on 2014-04-11 11:53:00 UTC
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And then there are those agents who are aimply thrown into their first mission right after recruitment.
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Well I can't argue with that logic by
on 2014-04-11 05:38:00 UTC
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Well the important thing to remember is that Seyche is hopefully, a more fleashed out charcter.
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'fleashed out' [sic] doesn't tell me anything. by
on 2014-04-11 06:09:00 UTC
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The question lies more in xir ability to handle a combat situation.
Is Seyche:
-Unable to withstand the pull of a longbow?
-Horrible at hand-eye coordination?
-Not strong enough to wield a broadsword?
-Lumbering and thus unable to wield a rapier (think swashbuckling)
-Scared of loud noises like gunfire?
-Just plain damn scared of weapons?
-Non-confrontational?
-Squeamish about blood and guts and Glitter?
Of course, xie doesn't have to be all of those things, but maybe some of those things will give you a good indicator of what to do with xir.
For example, my agents, Christianne and Eledhwen, are decent with projectile weapons. Their weapons of choice in most fandoms, though, are swords and knives. Christianne has a sword (though she first learnt with the katana, and may sometimes get her grip a bit funny because the katana is designed and balanced differently), whereas Eledhwen has double knives. The two of them might not have the muscle tone to handle archery, or the patience to get the aim right (archery's a precise sorta thing where even the slightest variation in the wind can change the trajectory of the arrow). So the funniest thing in a training scenario would be for them to try and shoot arrows, and end up with a montage similar to the archery training montage in The Princess Diaries 2. That's to say, there'll probably be some Agents with bits of hair missing from their heads, a couple crying kids who had their balloons popped, and many, many other Agents with their hands raised in the air as if begging my Agents not to shoot them.
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I don't feel like I should stick them in combat by
on 2014-04-11 18:48:00 UTC
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Partly because I don't feel comfortable writing action scenes, partly because I can't stomach most badfic,
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I think I see now what you meant with the "academy". by
on 2014-04-12 01:07:00 UTC
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It would make sense that your agent would need to learn new skills if she was going into the DMSEAR, instead of going into an Action Department. Any field agent should learn to at least use some sort of weapon or other offensive tool, but a DMSEAR Agent would need to study up on known Suvian properties and develop methods to scientifically utilize whatever comes their way. Field agents can be reckless without negative consequences, since they're supposed to be killing and destroying in their missions, but specific samples of certain Sue types can be rare, and the PPC's scientists would need to use what they have as efficiently as possible.
I think the reason why there's disparity in agent training, in-universe, is that some agents are recruited already possessing abilities that would let them perform well in missions, like magic or weapon proficiency or unusual powers, while other new recruits would need to have further instruction by the Agent Trainers in the Department of Personnel so that the newbies could to develop their skills, or to tag along as interns with experienced agents to find the ropes, or some third option for their specific case. (We know Agent Trainers exist, since Agent Training has been mentioned on occasion, they were the focus of one short-lived spin-off, and a few agents, such as Ilraen, have been said to become Agent Trainers in the future, but they haven't gotten a lot of attention, probably because they wouldn't provide more than a handful of story opportunities).
If you want to write DMSEAR stories, I personally would love to read them. We don't see a lot about the Infrastructure Departments, and that's a shame, because there are a lot of stories that could be told from their side. I don't know what purpose Murder would fulfill there, though, since his violent nature wouldn't exactly be conducive to scientific endeavors. Well, unless he worked in security, because then he could beat down Sues that escape from stasis or creatures that try to get into the lab, and guard the experiments to keep them from doing anything untoward. The DMSEAR might just contract a few DIA Officers to do that, but it's always good to have someone in-house alongside the external help to know what's going on and prioritize accordingly. Murder can't talk, so it would be a little difficult, but it wouldn't be PPC if it was easy.
One thing, though: is Murder his last name, or his first name? We already have a lot of agents with "action" names, like Suicide, Death, Heal, and Echo, so even if he doesn't have two names now, it would make him more distinct if he had two by the end. I think it would look better as a last name, but that's personal opinion, since I think "Murder Jones" or "Murder Simmons" or something like that would be just too silly. -
About that name by
on 2014-04-12 04:46:00 UTC
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I really love all the ideas you gave me. Thank you so much as for Murder's name, well... To make a long story short I've decided to call him Micheal Murder.
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I don't feel like I should stick them in combat by
on 2014-04-11 18:48:00 UTC
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Partly because I don't feel comfortable writing action scenes, partly because I can't stomach most badfic,
I will say that Seyche isn't non-confrontational or squeamish. She is just not very good at combat. At all
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On archery... by
on 2014-04-11 08:55:00 UTC
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...I never quite understood why there is such an insistence on agents using bows. I always imagined rookie agents toting stirrup crossbows into medieval/fantasy 'verses. Sure they're technically not canonical in, say, the Lord of the Rings, but they fire pretty much the same thing, right?
Plus, crossbows have the advantage of being easy to maintain, easier to fire than a bow, and can actually pose a significant threat to armoured opponents. What's not to like? -
It's because they're not canonical. by
on 2014-04-15 09:10:00 UTC
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If you remember waaaay back in Rambling Band, J&A made specific efforts to be absolutely canonical. Acacia's bow in that mission is an orc bow, because she's in an Uruk disguise. Indeed, as Chosen makes clear, it's not enough to be canonical - they had to be something that could canonically attack the Mary-Sue ("Not much choice, is there?" said Acacia. "These Mary Sues are very rarely attacked by the evil Men, have you noticed that?"). That's made even clearer in Lady of the Fellowship, where they're invisible (and so could hardly 'contaminate' anything by their appearance), but still make the effort to blend in as Nazgul.
In fact, the first (only?) time they go in as elves is Why am I Here?, where the Sue has an Orc as a boyfriend. And... yep, there it is: '[Acacia] had spent the five minutes pilfering a rather more elvish bow, and filling her quiver with more appropriate arrows.'
Why agents are (or were) supposed to stay so rigorously canonical is a question I don't think has ever been answered - we all slipped gently away from it fairly early on. If I had to make up a reason, I'd say that in those days, canon wasn't as damaged - there was far less badfic in total - so a pair of uncanonical agents could have a significant effect. Nowadays, everything's so messed up that we could send folk into Lorien disguised as mecha-tigers and nothing would result.
What this all comes back to, I guess, is that crossbows are one of the great overlooked weapons of fantasy in general. There aren't a whole lot of stories at the right tech level - you're either still at longbows, or you've gotten as far as gunpowder. Discworld has crossbows, and Dafydd bought Selene one. But I can't think of anywhere else off the top of my head.
(Also: crossbows are 'easy to maintain'? That honestly surprises me. A bow has no moving parts - unstring it, keep it dry, and I didn't know it needed much other care. Crossbows are mechanical - that means machine oil, which will need both adding and removing when it gets icky. So why are they easier to maintain? I'm not arguing, just surprised)
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Blaagh. by
on 2014-04-16 03:09:00 UTC
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Sorry-- that idea was really poorly phrased. I was trying to say that a crossbow's individual parts can be replaced when they break. That way a repairman can simply pop off the damaged part and stick a new one in its place as opposed to a bow, where either the string breaks or the body breaks and you have to trash the part.
You're entirely right about the mechanical complexity of a crossbow: with ease of use comes increased dependancy on specialized repair crews.
Your point on canon has been duly noted! Maybe we should try to shoot for a more "strictly-canon" approach in our spinoffs for old times' sake... -
I'd say we shouldn't. by
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I mean, we should stay, you know, a creature in canon, but I see no need to become a creature that would kill a Sue. The disguises are supposed to help agents blend in, right? So as long as they look like part of the world, we're cool.
For me, I'd say it would be harder for canon to hide an orc in Rivendell then an elf killing somebody. There is only so much an SEP field can do, people! The sworn enemy of your people showing up in the Last Homely House is not somebody else's problem, no matter how muchthe fieldtheir mind insists it is! And yes, this is one of my complaints about TOS. A very minor complaint, but one I hold none the less. -
It's only a complaint... by
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... because you're extrapolating the modern idea of the SEP field back to before it existed. There was no electronic explanation for Jay and Acacia being hidden - they were shielded by the canon itself from being noticed, unless they made a very loud noise or deliberately drew attention to themselves. And the canon (being the canon) can hide an orc just as easily as an elf.
That said, J&A did their level best not to be noticed. Whenever they were in Rivendell in orc disguise, they snuck around, slept out in the woods, etc etc. Nowadays, encounters with canons and OCs are far more common - observe Huinesoron's run-in with 'Luthien' and her mini-friend, where an orc disguise would have really caused problems.
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Also, this was before DORKS. by
on 2014-04-17 17:01:00 UTC
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So they could only maintain one disguise, really, and can't change according to the fic's setting (or lack thereof).
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Re: On archery... by
on 2014-04-12 14:59:00 UTC
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I haven't seen much fantasy fiction that has characters using crossbows. I think the agents default to bows because the authors default to bows.
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Bows because Legolas. by
on 2014-04-11 13:17:00 UTC
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And crossbows take a long time to reload.
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True... by
on 2014-04-11 17:46:00 UTC
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...but rate of fire is a non-issue in the PPC's context: agents assassinate Suvians after charging them. If the situation escalates into a shootout, something's gone pretty wrong.
Even then, consider this video: if the guy wasn't messing around with his bolts so much, he'd be able to ready his crossbow in ten-ish seconds, maybe less. -
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As Sjosten pointed out, we are in the process of implementing a new Permission system. I'd like it if you would create a couple new writing samples using the prompts as described here (scroll down past all the orange stuff). The more we see the new system in action, the better. Plus, your character descriptions are on the sketchy side, so it would really help to see the agents in action.
I did read the story you posted, though, so I wanted to give my thoughts on that. The first thing I noticed, of course, is your paragraphing. You MUST use either first-line indents or double-spacing to aid your readers in seeing where one paragraph ends and the next begins. Otherwise, each section looks like one huge block of jagged text, and it's possible for two paragraphs to look like one if the ending line gets close enough to the edge of the screen. Hitting "Enter" twice instead of once for a new paragraph is very easy, so I recommend that.
There were a couple other mechanical things ("the" shouldn't be capitalized in your title, for one), but they were minor and few, and didn't distract me from reading, so that's good.
As for the content, if I'm being honest, I was disappointed. Your setup got me interested in how the three kids were going to get together, and what the mysterious villain organization was all about, and what the heroes were going to do about it, but the endgame came about too quickly and resolved far too easily, with lots of convenient circumstances and dubious escapes for the heroes. Notably, I don't think it's really that easy to jump through a glass window or dislocate your own wrist. Actually, I'm not sure how dislocating your wrist would even help escape from bonds like that. Thumbs, maybe, but wrist? How does that work? And how can he do anything useful with his hands, let alone fire a gun even remotely well, shortly after painfully destabilizing his joints like that? That's not something you can recover from instantly.
The biggest problem, though, is that the villains are terrible at being villains. The Mistress is so cartoonishly out of her mind that I can't believe anyone would follow her; her motivation is unclear ("revenge," but for what, and how does torturing kids satisfy her desire for it?); the Generic Goons kidnapping the heroes do so in the most loud and obvious way I can think of; they put the heroes in a truck full of convenient weapons and don't even bother to take James' penknife off him first; the security is so terrible that they can walk through the compound's prison without being spotted by one of the guards on duty or any cameras; a fourteen-year-old kid raised on a farm by his grandparents can hack their computer systems; and they're called Brimstone and Treacle, the latter being a sweet, thick syrup residents of North America know as molasses. And yet these nimrods somehow managed to kidnap hundreds of kids without being caught by the police? It's all very, very silly.
I did like the kids themselves, though. You got across a pretty good idea of who they are as people, and like I said, in the beginning I was curious to find out what would happen to them. I could wish they were a little more original than the "straight-A student," the "slacker who plays video games," and the "unlikely computer genius," but their backgrounds and interactions with their family members helped with that, and I think given more time in the story and some properly serious obstacles to overcome, they could grow very nicely.
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I'll get right onto that. Thanks for the ConCrit (nm) by
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Isn't ConCrit a substance? Something like concrete? (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 20:46:00 UTC
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Metaphorically, it is. by
on 2014-04-09 21:37:00 UTC
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As it is one of the "building materials" you need to "construct" a good story.
It is also a literal substance used to build part of HQ.
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Cool. (nm) by
on 2014-04-10 20:43:00 UTC
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awesome agents by
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your agents are pretty cool
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on 2014-04-07 19:46:00 UTC
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But I know that really young agents are frowned upon. I certainly won't subject a fourteen-years-old (an eighth-grader) to badfic and I doubt even the Marquis de Sod would do so.
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Fair point. by
on 2014-04-08 08:37:00 UTC
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I'm changing Kitty's age to 19 and Kay's to 17, if that's better?
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A Note About your Sample by
on 2014-04-07 18:00:00 UTC
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Personally, I think the Agents look cool, possibly just a tad more violent than the PGs will look for, but otherwise good. As for the writing sample, I thought they had changed how those work now. Of course, I could be mistaken, but I believe in the thread http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=199610;article=254639;title=PPC%20Posting%20Board;pagemark=75 (my apologies, I have no idea how to link correctly), they revamped everything.
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Good luck! (nm) by
on 2014-04-07 16:47:00 UTC
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Good luck! (nm) by
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Once again requesting a beta for The Literal Underground by
on 2014-04-07 17:34:00 UTC
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I have one lined up who knows the novels, and therefore the character I've got (more than two hundred years older) as the Old Man. However, she never finished Riven, so I would like a second beta who can help make sure I've got other stuff correct.
The gist, for those who weren't here when I asked for a beta last or don't remember, is that by 2033 the whole Earth is in tension between opposite (and militant) sociopolitical extremes, and the story is mostly from the perspective of a refugee fleeing to Releeshahn.
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For My Birthday by
on 2014-04-07 20:26:00 UTC
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For my birthday, I want:
Legend of Korra Season 2 on DVD,
The Last Story (a popular RPG for Wii)
A non-explodable CAD
To give Akemi Homura a hug (because heaven knows she needs it)
Martin the Warrior's sword
Flames to light my barbecue with
Barbecue
To learn how to cook barbecue
Nanoha plushies
A legendary Pokémon
The Sharingan, to be used on my enemies (if I ever actually find any)
An intelligent device
One of those coat/jacket/armor thingies that Loki wears, because really, those are cool
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Wish time! by
on 2014-04-12 17:56:00 UTC
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I want a sonic screwdriver! And an unlimited supply of Flames for research! And a puppy!
And plushy Jay and Acacia. That would be SO cool. -
Autograph Manuscripts. by
on 2014-04-10 12:55:00 UTC
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Especially of stuff by 20th Century Composers. Man, that would be the best, even if they'd have to be returned after the day. The national libraries of most European countries tend to hold on to their history pretty stringently, you know what I mean?
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I just want my college paid for. by
on 2014-04-10 12:46:00 UTC
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Or, barring that, the opportunity to write the next Star Trek Movie.
Though honestly, I'd probably be happy with the Starfleet collection of star maps or the Starfleet Manual (handbook? Thing?). I'm not very picky. -
what I want... by
on 2014-04-09 07:51:00 UTC
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I'd like:
Digimon fusion on DVD.
$800 in allowance.
a PS2.
destiny.
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More birthday wishes by
on 2014-04-08 21:51:00 UTC
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* For the rest of the missing Doctor Who episodes to turn up
* A couple weeks with nothing to do but research my planned Historical Masquerade entry for CostumeCon 34
* A nice assortment of loose-leaf tea
* An Elven sword or dagger (given my height compared to that of Tolkien's elves, dagger is probably a better idea)
* Training in how to use an Elven sword or dagger
* Chocolate
* A trip in the TARDIS (My favorite Doctors are Two, Three, Four, and Seven ... but really, I'd travel with anyone BUT Six.)
* A fully up-to-date desktop computer
* Another couple weeks with nothing to do but finally get that steampunk repaint of my Nerf Maverick done
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It's pretty simple, actually. by
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- Tea. Lots and lots of good tea.
2. Tea.
3. Good Irish music.
4. A normal cellphone (not hearing the other person kinda beats the purpose of a phone).
5. More Tolkien. (I just got his The Fall of Arthur so squee).
- Tea. Lots and lots of good tea.
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An I want... by
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To give an hug to Homura too (she REALLY needs one. Or a hundred.)
A Moemura plushie (same reason as above)
An Intelligent Device (yeah, me too.)
A 1983 Toyota Sprinter Trueno (No, I haven't watched Initial D, if you're wondering. It was my first car in Gran Turismo 3, and one of my signature cars in racing games ever since)
A job
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I want... by
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Some sort of magic power,
The complete collection of Fairy Tail manga,
Permission,
Two all-beef patties,
Special Sauce,
Lettuce,
Cheese,
Pickled onions,
A sesame seed bun,
A flame thrower,
Hobbes,
TatraMegami to UPDATE HER FICS, PLEASE,
A new Harry Poter book,
Gold class tickets to Mockingjay,
Elsa to build a snowman with me,
My sanity back,
Friends,
Life.
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Let's see... by
on 2014-04-08 06:29:00 UTC
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I would like:
All-you-can-eat tonkatsu curry buffet
Someone to teach me how to use LaTeX and Gnuplot properly
To sleep until 8:00am
A gaming PC
X-COM: Enemy Unknown / Enemy Within
The complete Bioshock series
Valve to stop making hats and get working on Half Life 3Gaben pls
...and while I'm at it:
A fully functional Three-Dimensional Maneuver Gear with unlimited gas refills
A non-sadistic instructor for the above 3DMG
Somewhere to actually use the 3DMG
Tickets for a three-day trip to Equestria
A D.O.R.K.S.
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I want... by
on 2014-04-08 02:59:00 UTC
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A blue 3DS
Jirachi
The Realms of the Gods (book)
A Doctor Who T-shirt
Drawing lessons
A new iPod case (preferably one of those TARDIS ones)
Red wig, medium-length
DVDs of Star Trek: The Next Generation
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To not have another one. (nm) by
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You want to be trapped in a time loop? by
on 2014-04-08 00:49:00 UTC
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Well, I knew there would be someone out there who would enjoy that. I don't know how many people would agree with you, though. I'd imagine that for most, constantly reliving the day before their next birthday would be fun at first, due to unlimited time to do certain information-based tasks and lack of consequences for physical tasks, but would eventually drive them insane from the boredom and futility that the time loop would produce. That's doubled if they don't have access to the resources that Bill Murray had in Groundhog Day that let him gain several new skills while in temporal limbo, and just had to see all of their efforts vanish at the end of each day. That would be all kinds of unpleasant.
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Let's do the time warp again... by
on 2014-04-08 01:58:00 UTC
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Besides, wasn't Phil Connors stuck in that loop for a decade or something? That's gotta leave some pretty big psychological scars.
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I think it was said somewhere... by
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Ah, here we are. After Harold Ramis(Groundhog Day's director) said that he thought that the initial eight-to-ten-year estimate was too short, and that Phil spent about three or four decades in the loop, a site calculated the loop's length based on references in the movie, how long it would take for Phil to know the intricate workings of the town in the demonstrated amount of detail, the time he would spend learning skills like mastery of ice sculpting, etcetera, and wound up at just under 34 years.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a bit difficult for Mr. Connors to adjust. After the loop ends, not only is he thrust into a world where he doesn't have omniscient knowledge of his surroundings and you don't reset to the start of the day when you die, but he's been in the loop for so long, his mental age is now twice as old as his physical age. Yikes. -
What I Want by
on 2014-04-07 23:14:00 UTC
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Chocolate, and the complete set of Dresden Files, Codex Alera, and Discworld.
And perhaps Permission.
P.S. Happy Birthday (If it isn't today, please re-read this message whenever it is your birthday! -
More wands! by
on 2014-04-07 21:36:00 UTC
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I'm hoping to add Bellatrix's and Voldemort's wands to my collection this year, though my mom hinted that I might get one in my Easter basket. :3
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Which one? by
on 2014-04-08 02:42:00 UTC
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Would you mind being in black-and-white for the duration of your adventure? Because for a temporary jaunt, I think the Second Doctor could provide the best balance between fun and spontaneous experiences, and not being possessed or mutated or something of the sort because the writers know you're only temporary. I'd say Nine or Ten would be just as fun, but that's only if you don't mind the chance of stumbling into the middle of aberrant cosmic phenomena or being turned into a cyborg. Some people would really enjoy that, though. It's not every day someone gets to play around with with uncontrollable power, even if there are equally potent consequences.
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Dunno. by
on 2014-04-08 11:43:00 UTC
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I'm partial to 9, 10, and 11, but Tom Baker won me over in his first episode. :3
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Four would be another good one. by
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In the admittedly few episodes I've seen of him, while he does seem like a lot of fun, Four or one his companions kept getting turned into hosts for things, or cloned, or mind-controlled, which is why he wasn't the original pick. The ratio would've probably gotten better if I watched more of his run, though, and the Fourth Doctor would be a lot of fun to interact with.
Have fighting off Meglos! I hope it's someone else that gets possessed and made to develop green skin and spines! Meglos needs more time in the spotlight. He was great. Maybe the Twelfth Doctor will encounter him.
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A Discworld- D&D crossover Homebrew Class by
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So, I've had this idea, and I was thinking of basing an agent off of it.
The idea is this: A homebrew D&D class, called the Monks of Rinjswand, who follow the principles of speed and cowardice that Rincewind of the Discworld bases his whole life on.
In-universe, they're disciples of Rinjswand, God of Cowardice and Survival, the Coward of a Thousand Retreating Backs.
The Monks are a new brainchild, and I haven't been able to really organize the class. If someone could help me out, it would be much appreciated.
Current ideas for class features (note that some are for higher levels):
Class Skills: Bluff, Concentration, Escape Artist, Hide, Listen, Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (the planes) Sense Motive, Spot, Survival
No proficiency with any weapons or armor; in fact, this class cannot wear anything heavier than light armor, as to do so would impede the process of running away.
They either cannot enter combat unless it is absolutely necessary, or have to succeed a Will save to enter combat.
See Death- Due to training to always expect to see him, Monks of Rinjswand can see any personification of Death. At higher levels, they can see anything that is invisible by way of a SEP field or other method of unnoticeability.
Improved Running- Any Monk of Rinjswand may temporarily double their base land speed for some [undetermined] amount of time, after which they become tired. A [some high level] MoR does not have this drawback.
Universal Cowardice- A Monk of Rinjswand may speak 2 languages more than what is provided by the rules. They may speak in any reasonable language for the purposes of crying for mercy or help, or to surrender.
Knowledge of Cruel and Unusual Geography- A MoR gains a +[rather high] save against any difficulty provided by terrain of any kind.
Favored of the Lady- Because they attempt to follow the path of Rincewind of all people, the Lady tends to take note. MoRs tend to get into dangerous and heroic situations which they will usually survive and somehow solve, but usually with singed hair and eyebrows at the least.
Only Vaguely an Hourglass- Because of the constant attention of the Lady, not even Death him/itself knows their future. In other words, they're immune to fate.
Advanced Cowardice- MoRs develop a special intuition about when danger is immanent, and with a high enough roll, they can sense the danger and start running before it even strikes. MoRs also gain a +[a lot] bonus on Sense Motive checks.
Speed is a Sacrament: MoRs gain access to the cleric domains Speed and Luck, and the following spells (not all at once. Some are higher level than others): Detect Magic, Detect Poison, Endure Elements, Obscuring Mist, Death Ward, True Seeing.
Science of Cowardice: MoRs gain half the XP they would get from an encounter when they run away from the encounter.
Art of Running- A high-level MoR doesn't get tired after running.
I know, it's kind of a mess right now, but with everyone's help, I'm hoping to straighten it out into a respectable parody of D&D.
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Which edition? by
on 2014-04-08 12:22:00 UTC
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I haven't played D&D for years, but I still have some of the books from earlier editions (no way am I selling my first edition Deities and Demigods with Cthulhu!). I quit during 3.5, though, so I can't help if you're looking at fourth edition.
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I guess 3.5 by
on 2014-04-08 16:15:00 UTC
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I never really thought about it, but let's say 3.5, as that's what I play too.
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Shiny! by
on 2014-04-09 09:32:00 UTC
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That's the edition I generally play, although it's houseruled all over the place with the people I usually play with.
This looks very interesting, and while I'm not very good at statting things up I'm interested to see where this goes. -
Where it goes by
on 2014-04-09 20:41:00 UTC
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Won't go anywhere if no one helps out.
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How does this place work? Would like to help/join. by
on 2014-04-09 02:03:00 UTC
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Long time lurker/reader of the wiki. I've read almost all of the pages of said badfics, as well as the rules, so I think I understand the idea of this place. I'd like to try and help with most anything that has to do with the Pit and similar places. I used to go there often both looking and writing, and I still mind to do the latter, but both my RL time and The Pit's quality has deteriorated. I have joined some Pit Communities dedicated to seeking out badfanfic and fixing/criting it for the authors and deleting rulebreaking ones, but I mainly lurk than actually participate. My brain is so full of ideas that I switch from one thing to the other quickly, whether it be RL or net stuff, and I often forget things.
Also, I consider this more of a hobby than a real job, so obviously if RL stuff is coming up I give that higher priority. I'm going to assume it will be the same for this place as well, so please don't expect me around here doing too much work or PPC'ing in general. I have tried to write some snarks, though they are highly NSFE due to content and I'd rather not post them here where children can get at them. Same with some of my more recent 'better' work. Ack...I'm writing too much, I fear...
I mostly stay in anime fandoms (hence the clever name). Was a huge Narutard a while back, now just waiting for it to be over. I also do Soul Eater, SMT/Persona/Devil Survivor, Final Fantasy(1, 2,4, and 6 so far my faves.) Fate/Zero/SN, Death Note, DMC, MGS (recently, just got Legacy),Tales of etc., BlazeBlue usually anime/games that don't fit the regular shounen/shoujo cliche...though I have a few guilty pleasures like Fushigi Yuugi, Blue Seed and some Monster(stopped watching the anime like four eps in). I just don't have much chunks of time, and I'd rather write my 'what-if' fanfiction or twist up the plots/make up my own that sound plausible In-universe, than deal with more of the same only with different layers(?). I don't really like yaoi or yuri, though I can appreciate good characters that have relationships. I suppose I'd rather try and turn Sues into Not-Sues by talking it out with the author...and I am currently trying to parody/self-aware version of this with a SI/Canon Naruto fic that is in the works. Trying it with SMT and it's not going so well...I can't seem to translate my thoughts to paper as it feels so dry and lame.
As for non-anime fandoms, I still adore Harry Potter, dislike Eragon/Inheritance Series, like LOTR (though the new cashcow movie BS made me angry--three parts eh?), Zelda, Megaman (from Classic to ZX to Legends), Dragon's Age, just got into The Witcher on PC, Legacy of Kain, Cthulhu related stuff, and DnD like stuff. I've tried to join RL RP groups, but college is a huge PoA and time killer--more so with papers and finals coming. I just feel I never have enough time to properly put effort into creative things like fanfiction and art anymore. And when I do, it's either subpar, not what I wanted it to be, or just...I can't finish it or look at it. Like one of my old Naruto fanfictions: Started it in 2010, has 41 chapters, yet I haven't updated it since two years ago. It's barely Naruto anymore though; really Naruto in name, as I added more mythology and spiritual references. Now looking at it, I just hate it.
So that;s it really. I guess I'm just kinda lost right now, lol. Been busy trying to figure out how to draw using a computer and Paint.NET, not going great, and code in GameMaker/RPG Maker 2003/XP. I just have lots of ideas, I guess...Also, you can find me on the Pit, AFFO (guess, it's NSFW sorry), and also DeviantArt by the same name. I've tried to provide as much info as I can but if you need anything else, please feel free. I alos might not reply for a while, since I forget about this place, and many others on the net, since things are getting hectic. Sorry in advance. -
From one stranger to another, welcome a-board! (nm) by
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Hello! by
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Well, as far as I (another longtime lurker) understand), you hang around here a lot, chat, get known, and then you ask for permission, and if it's granted, you make a pair of agents and then go around PPC-ing.
Oh, and if you do D&D stuff, could you help me organize a homebrew parody class that I was thinking of? I have a thread for it here, but I still haven't gotten much help. -
Re: Hello! by
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Honestly, I'm still a newb to the DnD fandom, excluding the works of R.A Salvatore--and I stopped reading him after the whole Draco-Litch BS plot. I might be able to help, I hope, but most of my knowledge would come from normal WRPGs like Skyrim...which isn't that similar. I do understand the mechanics and classes a bit though.
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Hi! by
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Welcome aBoard! Don't worry about real life getting in the way of stuff- we all have things to deal with. We know what it's like. ;)
Have an oinking manatee! -
*le gasp* by
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Yay! I'm no longer the only one here that's witnessed the awesomeness that is Devil Survivor! I'll be damned if it isn't friggin' hard, but yay! More people I can geek outabout the story with! Also, more Tales peeps!
*clears throat*
Sorry.
Anyway, welcome to the PPC! We love newbies here, so take your shoes off, leave your sanity at the door, and come on in!
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First plover! (nm) by
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Re: How does this place work? Would like to help/join. by
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Hi, have some fudge!
Good luck with finals, I remember how those can be. -
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I'm a fan of persona and SMT as well!
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*waves* by
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Hello and welcome!
I give to you now a lined Infinite Notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver binding. Don't look at it straight on!
Greetings and welcome to the Board!
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Welcome! by
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It's OK if you don't have a lot of time. We all have lives, you know. Kudos for working to improve the Pit (however indirectly), by the way.
Do you see the four little links on the top of the homepage? Read those, especially the FAQs and Original Series. In the meantime, your newbie gifts are a dark blue cape and a replica of Cress' sword. (This is one of our traditions; everyone who comments on someone's introduction post offers a virtual gift.) -
Warm hugs by
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Another anime fan! Awesome! Here take a Attack On Titan jacket and a Waver Velvet Plushie. Hope you survive
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Re: Welcome! by
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I see...interesting. Still have to finish ToP, one of the few I haven't along with Abyss and any of them on PS1 or in JPN.
Thanks everybody. You seem like decent people, unlike some of the other forums I've come across. Critics United and Literate Union on The Pit are a few good examples of the places I try to lurk. Along with WGW(NSFW, most of it is horrible smut snarks, fyi. Though it's not all that.) Hope I can help out here as well. I'll try checking some relevant fandoms and see what needs work; also might offer up some of my own pieces for crit as well. Some are NFSW,so I'd rather not directly link them to people without their consent. -
Tips re. NSFW by
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The PPC often does missions to NSFW fics, and some of the missions end up NSFW too, so it's not an absolute ban.
However--we do have teenagers here, and some people log in from work, and some people simply don't like to read smut, meaning that the PPC board itself has to be work-safe. The rule of thumb is to warn for anything that's posted on the wiki or the board if it could be X-rated or offensive or not-safe-for-brain in some way, and don't discuss such topics in the middle of chat where anybody could wander in and get squicked.
The Departments of Bad Slash and Bad Het often handle NSFW fics, and DAVD handles torture and unnecessary or badly-written violence. After all, there's such a thing as a well-written story with those subjects in it, and we'd very much like to see more of those. -
Re: Tips re. NSFW by
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Of course; it's what this place is famous for. Don't worry. I plan on doing so if I ever decide to post anything. I'll probably just ask some mods or something.
If this wasn't for me I'm sorry for bumping it. Seemingly random posts appear in my e-mail...probably cause I made a topic that everyone is replying to.
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An Invitation by
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"Right over here," Kitty directed, leading some mini-Aragogs to an empty part of the Board. "Yep, there. Just set it up, don't mind me. I have some narration to do." She turned to the Fourth Wall, grinning wildly as the minis began to erect a large poster.
"Right! I bet you're wondering what this is all about! Well, as you know, Easter is coming up soon. In fact, Easter Sunday is, I believe, the 20th." She rubbed her hands together. "This easter, we shall have a Ball! A literal one, in fact! Everyone is invited! Boarders, Agents, small dangeous animals, random plot bunnies," she listed quickly. "There will be fun! There will be food! There will be party crashers! There will be filking! And," she added. "Since I think they're awesome, probably a llama or two."
A mini ran up to Kitty and nudged her. She glanced down at it, and looked up at a fabulously urple poster, stretching up high, and covering a fair amount of the Board.
"Great!" chered the cat-girl. "Everything should be on that poster, if you have questions." She began to run off to another thread, but paused briefly. "Someone should really call in a carpender. The Fourth Wall is getting awfully damaged."
And with that, she swiftly exited the area.
The PPC Easter Ball
All Boarders, Agents, States of Mind welcome,
No Sues or Cute Animal Friends permitted,
Always expect the Spanish Inquisition!
Please bring,
A spork of your choice,
Some sort of Easter item,
Chocolate will be served.
Filking welcome!
On the Board,
Easter Sunday.
LOOK FOR TE THREAD.
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Room for a dubiously-competent returning Boarder? (nm) by
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Fun fun fun by
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I will bring jellybeans and a plush bunny named Igloo. (Or a Fluffy Mint Bunny if I can get my hands on one.) Are agents-to-be invited? I don't have permission yet, but I have a character all thought out, so...
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Sounds Interesting. (nm) by
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An Additional Message by
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Kitty ran quickly back onto the Board, yelling frantically.
"Wait! Wait! Okay...wait. Thank you."
She paused to catch her breath. "Okay. Great. Here's the additional message. I need someone to chronicle what happens at the Ball. You know, like the snow fight was written down a while ago? Yeah. One person will do."
She ran to the poster, and pasted a strip of paper over the bottom of it saying just that.
"Since it's mostly RP-based, this should be easier than usual. Just, the first one to volunteer, okay? Thanks.
"Also, you might want to think about dancing partners or dates for the ball. I promise I might not tease you relentlessly about it."
She ran directly off the Board, then ran right back.
"But really, people, get that carpenter in. The Fourth Wall is cracking to pieces."
And with that, she exited to prepare for the Ball. -
How in-continuity will this be? by
on 2014-04-10 21:47:00 UTC
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I've got multiple sets of characters that I'm considering involving in the upcoming Easter Special, and if it's going to be fully canon, I might choose different ones than I would otherwise.
Also, the opening post for this thread mentions that Kitty Eden is a catgirl. Is this a retroactive change, like her age-up, or was it something you'd had in mind since the beginning? Your Permission request implied that she was human. Is she only a catgirl in the Easter Special capacity, if this RP is not to be considered canon? Does this mean that her brother has feline traits as well, or did one of them have their species changed? -
Oh! by
on 2014-04-11 00:52:00 UTC
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I know I should probably have clarified, and I know these things get confusing. This Kitty is how I appear on the Board- a normal girl with cat ears and a tail.
As for continuity- this RP isn't exactly canon, yeah. -
Generally... by
on 2014-04-10 23:44:00 UTC
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Board RPs (and things like the Continuity Council) are as canon as you want them to be for your own spinoff. For example, I consider the Continuity Council canon, but this is not the case with most of the RPs I participated in.
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I shall be there. by
on 2014-04-10 04:52:00 UTC
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Just need to get back to the 21st century first... maybe I should use the lightspeed-breakaway factor?
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Sounds fun. I'll bring a chocolate fountain. (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 23:45:00 UTC
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A little bit of help? by
on 2014-04-09 20:49:00 UTC
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I think the urple-ness of the poster burned itself into my eyeballs. All I can see are the words 'A spork of your choice.'
And the llamas. *Shudders* Why are llamas going to appear? Whyyyy? -
If you want, I can capture the llamas and take them away. by
on 2014-04-09 21:33:00 UTC
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A friend of mine always wanted a llama.
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Sure! :) (nm) by
on 2014-04-10 20:35:00 UTC
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Looks like there will be a bunny fight. (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 20:29:00 UTC
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Hmmm... (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 19:40:00 UTC
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Minds, huh? Consider me interested. (nm) (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 19:23:00 UTC
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Chocolate? I'm There. (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 16:55:00 UTC
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This is going to be fun. (nm) by
on 2014-04-09 16:10:00 UTC
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More badfic by
on 2014-04-09 19:15:00 UTC
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I found this odd Harry Potter x Doctor Who crossover in the unclaimed badfic page - "Purity" - and made the mistake of opening its author's profile. I found this:
"Raised by Darkness", by apple2011 (rated T).
After years of abuse by his uncle a seven year old Harry Potter is rescued from the Dursleys by a Dementor who senses his pain, Raised in Azkaban with a strange but caring family and new powers how will Harry react to the revelation he is famous, a wizard and has the power to speak to Dementors. Powerful Harry, manipulative Dumbledore, Weasley bashing and Caring Dementors.
It has lots of standard HP badfic stuff - evul!Dumbelodre and Weasley bashing stand out - as well as terrible SPaG but the worst is this: Caring Dementors.
That's right. Caring Dementors. Harry is adopted by caring Dementors.
What is this I don't even.
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What The Hey? by
on 2014-04-12 22:10:00 UTC
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Anyone raised in Azkaban would go completely mad.
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Merlin's beard... by
on 2014-04-11 02:24:00 UTC
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May God help the agents assigned to that...thing. (hides in a corner with Bleepolate)
Oh, I found a Zelda self-insert thing in the Pit. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10195249/2/By-the-Edge-of-My-Sword-a-Tweenager-s-Fanfic Summary: Mary Su-I mean Rebecca, who's Independent and Strong-Willed and Not Like Other Girls, has been in an orphanage all her life, but she's about to be whisked away on an adventure by a familiar pointy-hatted Hero... Transcribed from an old Flower-Covered Journal is a fanfic that I am not at ALL proud of. Please read the Foreword. Updated every Monday and Thursday.
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Not sure about this one... by
on 2014-04-10 11:16:00 UTC
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WARNING: the following fic is NSFW and NC-17!
http://www.hpfanficarchive.com/stories/viewstory.php?sid=1041
Name: Inheritance
Summary: The events of the graveyard result in interesting ramifications as Lord Voldemort is not the only one who returns to a body. Harry/Multi.
Featuring at least one Possession!Sue/Stu, fairly standard HP bashing against Dumbledore, Weasley's and Snape, alongside additional bashing of just about everything to do with Hogwarts and the Ministry of Magic in general. Oh and Harry and Lily are part Kryptonian. -
Wait, what? by
on 2014-04-10 20:00:00 UTC
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I must've misread. Part Kryptonian? As in Superman Kryptonian?
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You didn't... by
on 2014-04-10 23:04:00 UTC
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Yes, as in Superman Kryptonian.
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Whut. by
on 2014-04-10 23:43:00 UTC
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-Blinks, grabs a teapot of Bleeptea-
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the heck! by
on 2014-04-12 12:57:00 UTC
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-downs 2 bottles of sonic screwdriver at the same time due to sheer stupidity-
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Gimme! by
on 2014-04-11 05:56:00 UTC
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Hey, share some of that with the rest of us! We're suffering too!
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Speaking of badfic, I'm looking for... by
on 2014-04-10 00:20:00 UTC
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A suitably hillaribad Suefic involving either dragons or the Phantom of the Opera. Both would be amazing, but I won't hold my breath. {= ) I'm keeping my own eyes open, of course, but there's only so much mediocre fic I can stand to scan at a time, so I figured I'd put the word out in the hope of getting Agents Derik and Gall a new mission sooner.
Dragon-having fandoms I'm especially interested in include the following:
* Dragonriders of Pern
* How to Train Your Dragon
* Temeraire/His Majesty's Dragon series
* Lord of the Rings
* Discworld
* Harry Potter
* Beowulf (the epic poem or the 2007 movie)
* Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel (there was at least one dragon in the finale of Angel, so I'm counting it)
Others I might consider missioning in, if I can make it work:
* Dragonheart
* Generic D&D or Dragonlance
* Spyro the Dragon (first game only; I haven't played the others)
* Skyrim (yep, I'm playing Skyrim these days. Breton, mostly fighter + alchemy if anyone wants to know.)
* Chronicles of Narnia
* MLP:FIM (because turning your human agents into ponies is always good for a laugh)
Dragons appearing in continua where they don't belong are good, too. My user page has a list of my top fandoms.
So, if you happen to see anything that looks mission-worthy that involves a Sue, dragons, and/or the Phantom of the Opera, please let me know! Oh, and songfic, I'd take a missionable songfic, too. Thanks!
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How about these? by
on 2014-04-13 21:13:00 UTC
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Not sure if either one will be quite what you're after, but there's always a chance.
The first is True Lovers, which is apparently a Phantom of the Opera and Shrek crossover. I say apparently because it doesn't really seem to use much of either canon. But it features a man with a disfigured face (he gets better - I'm sure that's a charge), and has the dragon from Shrek. No actual Sue in this one, but my quick skim of it leads me to believe that most of the recognisable characters are far OOC/possessed.
The second is Spyro and Cynder in The Phantom of the Opera, and is pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. It's script format, and seems to be a condensed retelling of the Phantom storyline using characters from Spyro the Dragon. Or at least, character names from Spyro, as that's about all you see of them. Not really sure if this one's missionable though.
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A couple possibilities. by
on 2014-04-11 06:27:00 UTC
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Other people found dragon stuff, so I focused on Erik. I found these from just a quick scan during dinner; you'll have to read them in more depth to see if they're quite bad enough to missionize, or just mediocre bad.
"My Ghost" is a T rated Phantom x Potter crossover:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3799174/1/My-Ghost
This is a bit of a songfic, with Ron having a beautiful singing voice that the Phantom wants to improve. It becomes Ron/Phantom eventually--seventh year Ron; hopefully that's not too squicky for you. (Unfortunately, this is movie!Phantom, which I know isn't your preference.) Also, it's ridiculously long, and the grammar's decent, so I'm not sure this will prove to be mission material.
"Ange Gardien" is a T rated Phantom x Narnia crossover which is NOT a trollfic, despite that title:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5935069/1/Ange-Gardien
This is an Erik/adult!Lucy romance, with some minor songfic moments here and there. The grammar is much worse than the above story, but it's still pretty long.
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I've found a couple Erik fics, too. by
on 2014-04-11 19:42:00 UTC
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I'll check out the two you posted in a bit. Thanks!
For the amusement of the group:
"The Phantomess of the Opera and the Half-Blood Prince" - another HP x PotO crossover, Marauder era.
"Erika de l'Opera" (that is seriously her surname, what) is the great-great-granddaughter of Erik. Her parents send her to Hogwarts because Voldemort is apparently a big fan of the Leroux novel and tracked her down for Reasons, and somehow she's supposed to be safer in England.
She has a deformity, but nobody much cares; it is effectively an excuse for her to accessorize with cute masks (ARGH). For some reason she thinks Ralph Lauren had a presence in Great Britain in the `70s and that Severus Snape would dress like that.
Snape is her LO. He is a perfect gentleman at all times. They bond over PotO and Faust, which all their friends love, possibly because it's mentioned in PotO and thus is the only opera they have actually heard of. Naturally, she has the voice of an angel, and Snape tells her this constantly.
Oh, and Erik talks to her in her head. No one thinks this is strange.
"Never Let Go" - PotO, set after the events of the book/play/movie.
This seems to be an alternative to Love Never Dies. (Which doesn't exist. What was I saying? Never mind.) Unfortunately, this story makes no sense at all.
So, Janessa Detris (or Morguis, or whatever her last name is this chapter) was abandoned at birth and grew up in the burnt-down Opera House. Somehow she survives on the infrequent charity of strangers, one of whom apparently has the wherewithal to give her a freaking violin and teach her how to play it, but not to actually take her in.
She grows up and decides to move to Spain. There she runs into Erik, who is now living in the Opera House in Barcelona because a friend of his built a lair for him down there just in case he ever visited (what?). Due to the fact that they have mirroring deformities and sound alike, they deduce that Erik is her father. Yay!
Then some random person threatens her and makes her become an assassin to save Erik from dying. She is terrible at it and ends up getting shot in the chest in an alley, and Erik saves her by taking the bullet out with a knife and sewing her up on the spot. This does not impede her future actions and in fact is never mentioned again.
Erik gets her a role in Les Misérables. No one has any problem with Erik being there, or their deformities. Erik does not appear to be a deranged psycho in any way. One of the other actresses turns out to be Janessa's mom. How the hell Erik ended up in a relationship with this woman is not discussed ever, nor are they shown interacting after everyone realizes who everyone else is. This is irrelevant because it is not about Janessa, who has no issues with either of them over being abandoned. Everything is happy-shiny.
But wait! Some new villain named Descole is threatening to kill people if Janessa doesn't do what he wants! Dun dun dun!
This is all exactly as haphazard and ill-thought-out as it sounds. The story is currently updating. >.
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Poor Snape. by
on 2014-04-12 05:07:00 UTC
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He's a complex character, but somehow, I doubt he likes these games of dress up the authors seem to like putting him through. I'm a little leery of trying a Marauders-era mission, just because there isn't as much info to go on.
That second one just sounds like madness! That first paragraph sounds like the fic has all of France out of character, considering the typical reaction to Erik's face in canon. -
I know there were these Sues... by
on 2014-04-10 12:40:00 UTC
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...which came from the same source as the Sue with the Silmarils in her blood, who had the ability to tame fire-drakes. I'll see if there's an unclaimed monstrosity in that hoard for you. Those ones are pretty terribad.
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Imma just go check the Circle for dragons... by
on 2014-04-10 00:42:00 UTC
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...and oh boy are their some real stinkers.
Nothing for Dragonriders of Pern, sorry.
I DID find some thing for How to train your Dragon:
The Dragon Princess (How To Train Your Dragon Story)
Good god, the summary alone was enough to send me running.
Can't say I've ever heard of Temeraire, nor can I find anything for it. Doesn't sound really popular.
Lord of the Rings badfic doesn't normally focus on dragons but I did find something:
I Cannot Trust
She rides dragons. That is all I have to say.
Nothing for Discworld I could track down, sorry.
Can't say I have heard of Harry Potter badfic focusing on dragons but, again, I found something horrible.
Dragons Kin (Tom Riddle)
She can talk to dragons and use their magic. What.
Nothing for Beowulf.
When I searched Angel I just got a variety of Sues with Angel in their name. Nor did I find any Buffy dragon-related Sues.
Anyways, there you are.
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Hmm, interesting! by
on 2014-04-10 15:42:00 UTC
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The first one looks like a rehash of the movie so far. Dumb, but a pretty boring sort of dumb. I'll scan later chapters to see if it goes off the rails later on.
The last one is actually almost good, as hard as that might be to believe. The mechanics don't suck, and this girl who grew up on a magical island with dragons actually struggles with being dropped into the middle of Hogsmeade with no clue, no proper clothing, and unable to speak English. Props for having actual conflict! This one's safe.
The middle one, on the other hand... it only gets as far as her joining the Fellowship (at Elrond and Gandalf's insistence, not her own), and the mechanics are not as egregiously terrible as I prefer to spork, but it could definitely prove a good DOGA or SIELU case if not a DMS case. She invents two uncanonical islands, one of which has friendly dragons and an uncanonical humanoid race that apparently speaks Greek, or something like it... the Elves are NOT speaking any Sindarin I ever heard of, despite the author knowing that they do speak Sindarin and that most people speak Westron... and all the uncanon stuff is pretty much superfluous to the plot so far. It could be a mission for someone. I'm just not sure it's a mission for me.
Thanks, though! I appreciate anyone Circle-diving for me. ^_^
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That middle one... by
on 2014-04-11 14:16:00 UTC
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Oh my. The islands could actually be canonical, just about - dragons originated in Angband, and Tol Fuin - Dorthonion-that-was - still exists, and is definitely to the west.
Oh, no, never mind. Chapter 2 says Katharos is circular, and too large to be Himling or Tol Morwen (or the Meneltarma) - though the other island, Arthen, with the deformed trees, would be a good fit for Tol Fuin. Certainly the orcs of Angband didn't come from (current) Middle-earth - they came from Beleriand. So maybe Katharos is the western end of old Dorthonion, and Arthen the eastern?
The story places the islands 26 hours from Middle-earth by dragon... but I'm dubious about the dragon's speed. They're flying below cloud-level - there are 'white little specks of clouds here and there', which sounds like cirrus clouds, at about 5000m. She also claims 'if you focused hard enough you could see small shadows swimming in the water'. If we assume that's the shadow of her dragon, which we can guess at... oh, 10m long?
A young person with excellent vision can have a visual acuity of 2, which is defined as 1/'gap size' in arc minutes, where 'gap size' is the smallest thing you can discern. So the gap size is 0.5 arc minutes, or 1/120 degrees. Said angle can be estimated using the formula tan(V) = S/D. Since V is 1/120 degrees, and S is 10m... if I'm mathsing this right, she might be flying at about 1000m up. That would still let cirrus clouds look like 'sky', so let's go with that.
With that in mind, she takes ten hours to pass out of sight of her starting point. Taking my standard sample mountain (Rainier) as the basis for her country, that means she's gone about 330 kilometers in ten hours; in other words, her dragon moves at 20mph, about 2/3 of the average flight speed of a golden eagle.
Er... basically, her dragon sucks.
hS
PS: And yes, I think it's Greek. The prologue translated 'unknown' as 'agnosto', which has obvious etymological connections to 'agnostic'. I could have used Google Translate, but that's boring. ;) And at least some of her Sindarin is from Real Elvish.net. Not quite all of it, but a lot. ~hS -
How real is Real Elvish.net? by
on 2014-04-11 15:50:00 UTC
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Didn't Cassie recently tell someone it's not the best source? Or was she talking about something else?
Hm, I'd think the shadows swimming in the water would be dolphins or fish. Multiple small shadows, not just one. What would that do to the maths?
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Make it worse. by
on 2014-04-11 16:05:00 UTC
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Smaller shadows would mean she'd have to be lower down, which means the island disappears over the horizon at a shorter distance. Specifically, the tip of Mount Rainier, at 4000m, will always be visible out to 220 km; if she's 1000m up, she can add 110 km to that. If she's flying at sea level, which would be pretty much required to see small fish, she'd be moving at 13mph. I guess that's sustainable flight, since dragons can actually hover in place - but it's going to be very tiring for the dragon.
As to re.n... well, it thinks it's good ("I made this little phrasebook for the sole purpose of people posting it on their websites, replacing Grelvish and Arwen-Undomiel.com."). And Cassie actually said " It's not quite as good as the one hS linked, but it's a fairly good one".
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I found you Thorin's adoptive daughter... by
on 2014-04-11 00:44:00 UTC
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...who is the last of the Animorphs.
http://www.quotev.com/story/3113250/Another-Hobbit-Story/
I know, not what you were aiming for, but I thought of how ticked Ilraen might be if he heard about this one...
Oh, and here, have Tala (aka Minthe), leader of the Dragonkind in Middle-earth. I know, I was confused, too.
http://www.quotev.com/story/2134342/I-dont-bow-to-crowns-A-Legolas-love-story/
She doesn't like right justifying, and she likes colours. Also she knows about Galadriel's song of parting but not the fact that the other "elvish" phrases she uses is actually Grelvish. And she quotes entire songs and links to youtube videos.
Oh, and why not:
http://www.quotev.com/story/3070413/How-To-Train-The-Heart-Of-A-Dragon-Hiccup-x-Reader-x-Toothless/
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Thanks! by
on 2014-04-11 19:03:00 UTC
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Ugh, that first one. It's almost like she heard the word "Animorph" somewhere, found out it means turning into animals, and stopped looking into it. There's nothing to make her different from your basic fantasy shape-shifter, and she can go from one animal form to another without turning human (or dwarf I guess?) in between. And she doesn't even use the ability intelligently. In theory her abilities make Bilbo's presence completely pointless, but she saves Thorin from falling off a mountain once, and that's it. Most of the "story" is purely a retelling of the movie. What is even the point of you, Evelyn? And what is up with your name?
The second has almost exactly the same problems, except swap in "Dragonborn" for "Animorph." Wolf-speaking, line-stealing, fast-healing, know-it-all, tag-along nonsense. *headdesk headdesk headdesk*
I might take either one of those. Or both. It would be a job of work on my part to make them entertaining because they spend so much time doing absolutely nothing to explore how a new person with new abilities affects the dynamics of the group and the outcome of the various encounters, but the logical problems alone could be enough. We'll see!
... I'm not even touching the third one. Nope. Do Not Want.
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I keep coming across that I don't bow to crowns story. (nm) by
on 2014-04-11 03:09:00 UTC
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It's apparently one of the most popular in the LotR section? (nm by
on 2014-04-11 03:13:00 UTC
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Yeah, dunno why. (nm) by
on 2014-04-11 03:15:00 UTC
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Probably because it's honking long. (nm) by
on 2014-04-11 03:16:00 UTC
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Re: Imma just go check the Circle for dragons... by
on 2014-04-10 02:24:00 UTC
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Glad to see Temeraire is safe for now. Probably too...classical? British? I'm not sure what word fits. No movie either.
That first story hurts the parts of my brain that are used for thought. -
you're gonna need more than bleeptea by
on 2014-04-09 23:38:00 UTC
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I haven't even read the fic and I see that it was probably written by a 12 year old.
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Just a note of courtesy... by
on 2014-04-10 12:42:00 UTC
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It's not in good form to mock the author of a fic. We mock the fic itself, or its premise. In this case, the idea of having caring Dementors contravenes exactly why Rowling created them and the purpose they serve in her stories. That the fic might have been written by a twelve year old is immaterial. Anyone inexperienced enough with fanfiction writing can completely misconstrue the canon.
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Ick. by
on 2014-04-09 21:52:00 UTC
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And I thought the Dalek one was bad. (Yeah, I'm the one who put Purity on there.)
But Caring Dementors! How!
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How? by
on 2014-04-09 23:08:00 UTC
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It's actually pretty simple. The author missed the parts about Dementors, the same way Suethors miss the parts about Legolas (except for him being hawtt!!!!!111Eleventyone!!1).
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This one is full of stupid. by
on 2014-04-09 20:44:00 UTC
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9386311/1/Prisoner-Of-The-Mind
Silver would wake up day after day, wondering if their is a place in life for him. Unfortunately, his powers are discovered by the public who reacts negatively. How does GUN react? To imprison Silver and make him a weapon. He barely escapes the clutches of GUN, but how much longer can he run?
I never thought I would be so annoyed by sentences that begin with a past tense continuous verb, until I read so many of them.
Besides that, there's so much stupid in it. For example, the king just asking or demanding Silver to serve him was too sensible. No, he has to make Silver a prisoner and when he escapes, then demand him to serve or become a fugitive. (Then again, if he didn't do that, Silver wouldn't have a chance to have to angst.)
It doesn't help that the king has lived at least 200 years. Because of that, he apparently becomes "unpredictable", which may be another
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I'll add another one while I correct my grammar. by
on 2014-04-09 20:54:00 UTC
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Meant to write "Silver wouldn't have a chance to angst."
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9422676/1/The-Withered-Rose
Amy was being her usual cheerful, giddy self until one day she was caught in a robbery and shot. Waking up in the hospital, she felt an odd sensation. She feels delight in sadness, especially pain experienced by others. But there is one person she'd truly love to kill, and that's Sonic The Hedgehog.
So she was having creepy daydreams a few times, she got shot in the frontal lobe, which means she becomes a killer. Okay.
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New Chapter posted! by
on 2014-04-10 02:42:00 UTC
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I've just posted a new chapter of my Pokemon/Bakugan crossover The Vexos Chronicles: Lost Luster. Here is a link to the story, and here is a direct link to the new chapter, Chapter 9.
Once again, reviews would be highly appreciated!
P.S.: For the more artistically-minded of you, could someone please make a cover image for my fic? Since it is going to be small, it shouldn't be complex, but it should capture the idea of Team Rocket (Cassidy and Butch) stopping at nothing to snatch Haos Boriates from its partner Volt Luster. -
I'm a big fan! by
on 2014-04-11 04:34:00 UTC
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Of course I'm also slightly nutty. It's still cool that you managed to crossover two of my favorite fandoms.
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Thanks for the kind words... by
on 2014-04-11 16:11:00 UTC
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I'll take every fan I can. But I'd greatly appreciate a review as well! Also, do you have any specific things that you liked or didn't like about the chapter?
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I fail at everything by
on 2014-04-10 06:20:00 UTC
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look at my agents.
I have more proof that I suck at everything
I cannot create anything likable to anyone else.
all my characters are bits,generics,or mary sues.
what fits for me will NEVER fit for anyone else.
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Keep trying and you'll succeed eventually. by
on 2014-04-11 05:21:00 UTC
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The fact that you can see flaws in your work already puts you ahead of most badfic writers.
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One piece of advice to give. by
on 2014-04-10 20:41:00 UTC
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READ. A LOT. READ EVERY BOOK YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON. THEN READ MORE.
(Sorry for yelling.) This should teach you how to write proper characters, as it certainly has for every single person in my family. (I'm serious here- my older sister is trying to find a publisher for her books, my older brother is a very successful Fanfiction author, and even my little brother is trying his hand at NaNoWriMo summer camp! It's getting a little ridiculous.) -
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on 2014-04-11 00:22:00 UTC
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I used to read a lot.
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Thank you! :) (nm) by
on 2014-04-11 19:57:00 UTC
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Just keep trying and reading by
on 2014-04-10 19:39:00 UTC
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While it is true that practice will help a lot, I find that it often helps to read books that have actually been published. Get a feel for the canon characters, observe as they develop, inspect their flaws. Keep your agent ideas in mind, and as you find out more about characterization, add little bits on to them.
Another thing to keep in mind is that some character quirks can be traced back to past events. Maybe one of them has horrible table manners. Do they not see a need for table manners? Or were they raised in a way that made them not care about it? A betrayal will cause someone to be less trustful.
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good idea by
on 2014-04-11 00:24:00 UTC
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I Think that reading more should help me,too
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Try reading more goodfic. by
on 2014-04-10 12:58:00 UTC
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I personally read a ton of badfic when I was younger, so when I joined the PPC, all I knew about characterisation was not to make my characters x, y, and z, but that didn't necessarily mean I knew how to make good characters.
But then I got into more fandoms and read goodfic in those fandoms, especially good OC fanfiction (they do exist!), and by contrast, my own characters and my own writing got better. Personally, I think the shift in my writing style came when I befriended Miss Cam and kept up with her in the Battlestar Galactica fandom, because then I modelled my own writing style off of hers, and grew from there.
My rule of thumb when it comes to making characters is to say that I am writing people. I'm not writing an archetype. If they have aspects of archetypes, that's their thing and definitely not because I intended it to be so. Even if the characters are aliens or Elves or whatever, they were still created by humans, and are meant to reflect humanity in their portrayal in some way. By remembering that I am writing people, I remember that people have quirks and flaws and things that make them tick, and that these things make them different.
So don't worry too much. Put your characters on a shelf and just lurk around, analyse why certain characters work for you and why others don't, and try to use that knowledge to your own advantage.
(Then again, writing two OFUs has helped me because I have to breathe life into templates submitted by readers, so...) -
I do read goodfic by
on 2014-04-11 00:04:00 UTC
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I've read alphabet soup and tamers forever.
both are pretty good fics. -
Chin up! by
on 2014-04-10 11:48:00 UTC
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Okay, this might sound lame considering two others have said it already, but...
The best way to do this is to practice. If I'd started hanging out on the Board last year, I can guarentee that my permission request would have been awful.
Your characters have potential; just try writing some 'demo' missions for them, then don't look back at it until a week later. What do you want to change now? What did you like about it? What works and what doesn't?
Also, don't be afraid to scrap something if it doesn't come out right. I rewrote my permission request at least ten times before I finally steeled my nerves and asked.
Read! Study how the authors use punctuation- I recommend Harry Potter *is shot* But seriously, that's where most people learn SPaG: from reading.
Don't drag yourself down. You've got a lot of potential. Everyone's gotta start somewhere.
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got it by
on 2014-04-10 11:52:00 UTC
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I used to do a lot of reading,and bought a bunch of books to give me writing tips.
if I taught myself how to read,I can teach myself how to write. -
That is not the way to progress, my good man. by
on 2014-04-10 08:15:00 UTC
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The good way to progress is to tire your fingertips with either the pencil or the keyboard. Keep writing your characters, open your imagination.
Tvtropes.org have a list of tropes, and surprisingly advises on how to write a good story, and how not to make Mary/Gary Stu. Here's one.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SoYouWantTo/MakeInterestingCharacters
Nagi may still have their time to shine, but not now. In the meantime, practice by making them go to the market, or talking to another soldier about recent happenings or gossips, or even fighting when their four-Reaper-destroyer gun isn't functioning or inappropriate to use, and see how you can build a character out of it.
And write a short story. I mean now. Let us see what Nagi is doing now. -
thanks by
on 2014-04-10 11:42:00 UTC
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good advice
I still haven't learned how to take criticism properly
or ignore other peoples opinions when it comes to my writing.
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thanks by
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good advice
I still haven't learned how to take criticism properly
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Re: criticism by
on 2014-04-10 20:53:00 UTC
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In my opinion, ConCrit hurts a lot more than bad crit. Bad crit is easy to ignore (basically the same way you ignore someone calling you an idiot). ConCrit points your flaws out, which hurts. However, therein lies progress as a writer, because when you know what you do wrong, you can remedy it.
(I owe this insight to two wonderful people: EllipsisFlood and SOCR from TvTropes. Thank you.)
Anyway, ignoring other people's opinions of your writing is only good when they have nothing to offer (ie, they don't ConCrit). Especially here; people here, as a rule, don't bash, so ignoring their opinions only limits you. That said, you don't have to take them as Torah from Mount Sinai...
Also, I reiterate my offer of help from your earlier thread. -
I live by this Shakespeare quotation: by
on 2014-04-11 00:28:00 UTC
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"Happier are those that hear their detractions and can put them to mending."
What, no, Much Ado isn't my most favourite play ever shhh what are you on about -
that it does by
on 2014-04-11 00:08:00 UTC
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ConCrit hurts.
I have stress breakdowns every time someone criticizes me in that manner.
so,maybe I should take some advice. -
Advice, you said. by
on 2014-04-11 16:02:00 UTC
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Here's a piece: most people who ConCrit usually aren't after your hide. They want to help. It's kinda like an operation; no-one thinks it's fun, but it is sometimes necessary.
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Chin up, sirrah! by
on 2014-04-10 07:50:00 UTC
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There's really no need to wallow in self-pity like this.
I'm sure that each and every one of us on the Board can say that some of their past writing was on the not-so-good side. Heck, some of us were former Suethors, myself included. I once wrote a terrible youfic in the Legend of Zelda verse with the most convoluted plot and terribly overly flashy action sequences all for the sake of the Rule of Cool. After I posted my story online, I re-read my stuff from the beginning (I literally posted the first things that came to mind) and went: "What the heck did I write?"
I deleted the entire story out of shame shortly afterwards and was afraid of writing anything for months afterwards out of fear of repeating the same mistakes.
Instead of hating on your writing skills, ask yourself what can be done to improve them. Listen to feedback and read, read, read. Read anything and everything. That way, you'll see how words and punctuation are used. You'll see how characters interact in specific situations. You'll see how to manage characters with supernatural abilities. You'll see a thousand other things that will inspire you and guide your writing. I kid you not, you'll become a better writer simply by reading.
Just take it slow and make sure that this isn't causing you too much stress. Have some soothing music! Writing should be fun, not torture.
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good advice by
on 2014-04-10 11:50:00 UTC
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something similar happened to me.
and yes,writing is torture when you worry about what other people think.
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Good Mary Sue Parodyfic by
on 2014-04-10 22:24:00 UTC
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Never Leave Fanfiction Lying Around, by Crazyroninchic. It has a Tv Tropes page, and there's a link there.
So, this is hilarious. It's set after the Lord of the Rings, and the characters come across and read a story called Tales of a Dream Come True, which is pretty much every LotR Mary Sue cliche mashed up into one story. Their reactions (especially to the Suefic versions of themselves) are uproarious. The only break with canon is that Legolas is still in Middle-Earth, but it's acceptable as the reason is so that he can be hilariously tortured by the Sue's romantic relationship with him (what else would the story be, if not a Legomance?).
Features Suefic!Legolas the lovesick pansy, Thranduil escaping out a window (he REALLY wasn't ready for the Suefic), and Sues outstaying the Suefic!canon characters at every possible point (much to the outrage of the real canon characters). Is a must-read. -
Oh my god that fic. by
on 2014-04-11 00:25:00 UTC
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Crazyroninchic also has a sequel to it where Starr's kid tries to atone for her mother's sins... by assassinating her.
It's a very entertaining story series. I remember in my younger years printing it out into a binder and taking it with me so I'd always have some Sue-bashing goodness to read about.
I think crazyroninchic also wrote "I Blame Iendil Ancawen Entirely"? Also a pretty good Sue parody, if ended a bit abruptly. Admittedly, it's not as parodic as Never Leave Fanfiction Lying Around, so...
I was really good friends with crazyroninchic back in the day, oh gosh. I even at one point wrote a tie-in fic approved by her where Starr, Celeste, and that darn faerie learnt the consequences of going to Middle-earth. It involved the Fellowship writing letters to Elrond begging him to send them corks for their ears because the Sue-song was so awful. Eledhwen made her first-ever appearance in that fic, actually! That fic served as the springing point for her backstory, where Starr and Co turn out to have been sent from a MS Factory and thus kidnap her...
Mine's not on FFN anymore. Don't bother looking. -wink-