Jan 2014 Archive, part b

Happy to see there's another Madoka fan to rage about the third movie with hang around with!

Well, since Desdendelle already gave you a mini Kyubey, here's a complete collection* of miniature versions of the girls' weapons to kill him with!

*Warning: missile laucher truck and anti-ship missiles not included.

Have some Swiss Chocolate.

That brings the count to, hm... four. In lieu of my usual newbie gifts, have this miniature Coobie I can't seem to get rid of.

Nice to meet you! Please accept my gifts of a potato cannon, a basket of sweet potatoes, and an Official Fanfiction University of Doctor Who sweatshirt.

I give you a giant potato! Very tasty.

So, the siblings have both arrived!
*blows party horn*

Well, since I gave 123bugsy a Ninjask, it seems only fair that I gift you with a Shedinja! Being that you are a Pokemon fan, I shouldn't have to warn you, but in the interest of caution, I will anyway: do not peer into Shedinja's back...

Enjoy!

Finally! I was starting to think I was the only one around here who'd played those games!

Anyway, since we're here... well, welcome to the PPC! We love newbies here, so take your shoes off, leave your sanity at the door, and come on in!

As a welcome gift, I give you some late music by Stravinsky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCzh3HnbEy4

Here, have a bar of Bleepolate (to soothe badfic-migraines) and a torch that shines ultra-urple light (to blind Suvians). Don't shine the torch in your face, however! I do not want to be responsible for any burnt faces!

Enjoy the PPC!

~Autumn

I've still got some caramel peanut clusters, half a roll of duct tape, two spoons and an interesting cardboard box for you!

Oooh, people keep trying to get me to watch Madoka Magica...

Hello and greetings!

I hereby give to you a lined Infinite Notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver binding. Don't look at it straight on!

-Aila

Please take this Bleeprin-laced custard pie and collapsible unicycle, and welcome to the PPC! =]

here, have this antique spork, it's specially diamond-encrusted and steel enforced for excellent sporking!

An IRL friend of mine looked it over. Turns out I was right, it wasn't my CSS at fault—it was my HTML, which I had totally failed to even consider checking. *headdesk*

I'll keep you all in mind if anything comes up in the future, though. Thanks! {= D

~Neshomeh

I know my way around CSS, HTML and jQuery (for mouseover effects) quite well.
Just shoot me a mail if you want me to help.

If it's not too hard (anything that doesn't involve JavaScript) then I can (most likely) take it on.

If you wanted to send the stuff through to me I could pass it on.

...would be an in-depth look at urban gardening in central Equestria?

I have never heard of the badfic "Cloud Mows the Lawn". My curiosity may end up being the death of me, but I think I'm gonna look it up.

SHERLOCKSHERLOCKSHERLOCK. Has the fanfic explosion happened yet?

I am pretty familiar with most of these fandoms. I think a joint sporking would be very interesting. (If I ever submit a Permission request)

The concept of dimension hopping sounds interesting, though. Not like someone falling through World One into their favorite continuums,but maybe a bit character falling. I had something like this planned for a backstory. But uh, spoilers...

Seems like the logical solution, right? Especially as, knowing AO3, it's likely a series or really, really long.

This Sue seems to like playing with boys from all over the multiverse. Therefore, I deem her: (a not-so-nice-sounding four-letter-word starting with "s").

An unique, awful one, this is.

~Autumn

I've seen her around the Doctor Who section. Didn't click, though. I didn't want to read anything so seemingly cringeworthy. Just the summary... *shudder* It's an absolute trainwreck.

-Aila

Merlin

The Avengers

Avatar: The Last Airbender

Supernatural

Doctor Who (2005)

Sherlock

X-Men (Movies) (don't ask me which; I suspect First Class) (No, nevermind, I just checked and it's got Wolverine)

The Lord of the Rings

Enjoy, guys. This one...well, see for yourselves.

~DF

Here's to more collaborations and actually finishing the ones we've started.

One of the keys to using the Eldarin languages is feel, and 'Glordil' feels horrible. It feels like an orc's name ('Glordil laughed his horrible laugh. 'No, elf,' he snarled, 'there will be no escape for you').

I'm assuming, based on your description, that Laurëandil is the original form of the name. When the Noldor came over, they didn't really know Sindarin - as a result, a lot of their 'translated' names are just 'soundalikes'. By that method, you could have a name like Lothendil/Lossendil.

But let's say she and her husband bother to learn a little of the local language before translating her nickname. You're right to use the 'Glor-' words for 'gold' - they have the same root as 'laurë'. The Ardalambion Sindarin wordlist gives these entries:

GOLD (as metal) 1) malad (i valad), pl. melaid (i melaid) if there is a pl. 2) malt (i valt), pl. melt (i melt) if there is a pl. (VT42:27). ”Gold” in extended senses: glawar (i ’lawar) (sunlight, radiance of the Golden Tree Laurelin), pl. glewair (in glewair) (VT41:10) GOLD (COLOUR?) *mall (i vall), pl. mail (i mail) if there is a pl. – Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” malt.

GOLDEN 1) (of gold) malthen (melthin- in compounds; lenited valthen; pl. melthin), 2) (shining with golden light) glóren (glórin-), lenited ’lóren; pl. glórin, 3) mallen (lenited vallen; pl. mellin).

GOLDEN LIGHT glaur (i ’laur), pl. gloer (in gloer)

I can see three useful words there: glawar (sunlight, or the light of Laurelin - use if she was named after the Tree), glóren (glowing like gold), and your choice of glaur (golden light), which clearly turns into Glor if you happen to be, say, Glorfindel.

As you noted, -(n)dil (and the related -(n)dur) show up in Sindarin names all the time - Elendil springs to mind - and that seems to be a Noldorin habit. So you can certainly use that.

That gives three names: Glawardil, Glorendil, and Glaurdil/Glordil. As I say, the last should be avoided entirely. Glorendil works fine, and sounds a lot like her Quenya version. Glawardil - or, potentially, Glardil - would also work, but doesn't sound quite as nice, at least to me.

If you wanted to go full-on translation...

FRIEND 1) (masc.) mellon (i vellon) (lover), pl. mellyn (i mellyn), coll. pl. mellonnath. Also meldir (i veldir), no distinct pl. form except with article (i meldir). Also seron (i heron, o seron), pl. seryn (i seryn), coll. pl. seronnath. 2) (fem.) meldis (i veldis), no distinct pl. form except with article (i meldis), coll. pl. meldissath.

FRIENDLY milui (lenited vilui; no distinct pl. form) (loving, kind)

FRIENDSHIP gwend (i ’wend, construct gwen) (bond), pl. gwind (in gwind), coll. pl. gwennath. Note: a homophone means ”maiden”.

That gives meldis (female friend), milui (loving, as an adjective), and gwen (friendship). Glorwen is a possible - it uses the common -wen (maiden) ending as its homophone. Gloremilui has an interesting sound, though terminal vowels aren't very common in Sindarin. Gloremeldis (Golden Friend) is probably your best literal translation with the 'friend' interpretation.

And one final entry:

LOVE (noun) meleth (i veleth), pl. melith (i melith)

LOVE (vb.) mela- (i vela, i melar), pa.t. melant (VT45:34)

LOVE mîl (i vîl) (affection, kindness), no distinct form in pl. except with article (i mîl), coll. pl. míliath

LOVER 1) (fem.) melethril (i velethril), no distinct pl. form except with article (i melethril), coll. pl. melethrillath. 2) (masc.) melethron (i velethron), pl. melethryn (i melethryn), coll. pl. melethronnath. Also (when lover = ”friend”) mellon (i vellon), pl. mellyn (i mellyn). Coll. pl. mellonnath.

LOVING milui (lenited vilui; no distinct pl. form) (friendly, kind)

We've already seen 'milui', of course, so other than that we have 'melethril' (lover), 'meleth' (love, as a noun; I think that's 'my love'), 'mîl' (noun again, = affection). Melethril is way too long (Gloremelethril), but could be contracted as 'Gloremethril' if you liked the sound. 'Gloremil' is a possible, but I think it's too heavy on the 'o' sound. 'Glormeleth' is also an option.

My final list of possible names, then, in no particular order:

Glawardil
Glorendil
Glorwen
Gloremilui
Gloremeldis
Gloremethril
Gloremil
Glormeleth

Oh, and I've just noticed:

Glaurwen
Glaurmeleth
Glawarwen

In fact, you could probably heavily contract 'glawar' down to 'gla', and replace 'glore' with it in most of the above. That gives things like:

Glamilui
Glameldis
Glamethril

Those sound rather Welsh to my ear, actually, like relations of Gwalchmai.

Anyway: any of those names are valid in Sindarin. 'Glorendil' is probably the most natural for your characters to come up with, but if you prefer the sound of one of the others - that's how Elves work!

Also: really? Only one year? Strewth.

hS

Or rather, a limerick!

There once was a Boarder named Dawn
Her and I had lots of great fun
We're Brain Twins you see
It's all her and me
We really need to get that OFU done.

I actually thought you'd been here longer than that. You're such a part of the Board, I can't imagine you not here.

*presents Mexican Wedding Cookies left over from our New Years party because Mexican Wedding Cookies are cool*

My first'll be... sometime in April, I think. I remember having just missed the Blackout.

I'm afraid I'll be useless on the subject of names; howevermuch I love Middle-earth, I haven't dedicated enough time to get the languages. *wants to learn Sindarin*

Have another great year!
-Aila

(You say that at anniversaries, right? I think that's a thing...)

Man, you are seriously tempting me to post the anniversary interlude I've written for Nume, but no, it must wait for February, when it actually applies.

Sadly, I have no idea when my own Board anniversary is, but my tenth one passed sometime in 2013. I mark my time here by the Glorious 25th of May/Towel Day, since it's one of my first memories of the Board. Mostly because I was extremely confused about it in that delightful "must learn more" way. ^_^

For your party, I give you a first-edition tin of chocolate chip Canon Cookies. You can try to eat them if you want, but they might serve you better as ornaments or projectiles. Either way, enjoy!

~Neshomeh

Congrats on the anniversary! I'm approaching my 6th this April, it always seems to catch me by surprise. XD

Re: the Elven naming, it would probably be a good idea to look at similar name meanings as well as just soundalikes. Sindarin words for "friend/lover" may mesh better with "glor" than just wodging name endings in there. Realelvish is a good place to start, but it's not the final authority.

http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/

this Sindarin dictionary may be of use - I rely on it a lot.

Here's my attempt at snarking it (the whole thing):-

http://www.tsdcv3.proboards.com/thread/5260

Warnings for the very foulest invective, some of which involves marine wildlife and portable building equipment, usually not at the same time but not always. =]

--parp

I've been considering getting someone to record the badfics as a podfic. And then a pair of MSTers can just pause the audio and add comments in. Of course, we'd beep out swearing before publishing.

I'd love to join in, but as the ball is probably in the UK, I won't be able to. That is, as long as no suethor messes up a World One fanfiction so badly that it changes the geography of the actual planet earth.

Welcome to the PPC! Don't feel too sad about your badfic past; a lot of us have written badfic in the past.

As for your newbie gift...
Here, have a Bisharp! The odds should certainly be in its favor!

Please accept my offering of canned pudding!

I'm 99Hedgehog, but people call me 99 for short. Anyways, have a Hexrifle!

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hexrifle

The Emperor Protects!

For your welcome gift, have a Muggle-use Wand from the Hogwarts Fanfiction Academy, and don’t worry about late responses. We have Boarders from all over the world, so there is actually no defined daytime.

Obviously I cannot use the time zone problem as an excuse for a late welcome; I just don’t visit the Board every day.

HG (who got a descriptive name in his native language).

Welcome to the Board! Please accept this Bleeprin-dosed custard pie and collapsible unicycle. =]

--parp

Hey there! Fortunately for me, I was a child of the nineties with restricted internet access for most of the early 2000's, so any bad writing of mine is safely stashed in a taped-shut box under my bed. :D

Have some paracord, three dill pickles, a marble and a bent fork!

Hi, have some fudge!

I don't think your user name is too similar, no. If it invoked cats in any way, then we might have a problem, but as it stands, I doubt you'll confuse anyone. (preparing to be proven wrong in 3... 2...)

Seriously, though, welcome to the Board! Have an electric trident! Electric as in it shoots lightning from the tips, not as in it needs batteries. It's powered entirely by ill-defined magical energy, so you won't need to worry about charging it.

And to answer your questions:
1) Agents like to gripe about things. It helps get out some of the frustration that they feel after watching badfic mangle their favorite fictional worlds, which isn't always dispelled when a Sue gets a sword through the chest. Talking about getting raises and complaining that there's barely any time between missions any more are common manifestations of that. They're exaggerating about the lack of time, by the way. There's plenty of time between missions, as evidenced by the massive number of between-mission interludes that have been written over the years. It's just that the console could go off at any moment, so a lot of Agents don't feel that there's much chance to do anything.
As for the actual purpose of the money, I don't think anyone is entirely sure, but it might not be out of the question that the money could be used to purchase things at HQ's internal businesses, such as the Supply Depot or Rudi's Pub, or to purchase things from within the various continua that the Agents travel to. I doubt the Agents would ever have too high a need for the latter unless they were stranded there or something, though. Ailavyn Siniyash's idea about the Cafeteria once dispensing good food for money may be true as well. It sounds like something they'd do.

2) It's not really something that anyone tends to consider, usually, since there are a few dozen different species of Flowers and they all have their own individual ways of performing most tasks, moving around not being an exception. I'm pretty sure that a large potion of them drag themselves around on their roots or pull themselves forward with fronds, but there are some that don't have any appendages to speak of, or those that are simply too large to make doing so practical, plus individual personality quirks that might affect their choices. Maybe some would find pulling themselves across the floor demeaning, or some would prefer alternative options to the obvious ones. Knowing how the Flowers can get, I expect that at least a few push themselves around on some sort of skateboard/wheelchair contraption because wheels can go down long hallways faster, or even self-levitate with their psychic powers. I think that the Bracket Fungus could self-levitate, but admittedly I'm not entirely certain where I'm remembering that from.

It's nice to meet you! Please accept my gifts of a potato cannon, a basket of potatoes, and an Official Fanfiction University of Doctor Who sweatshirt.

What's your favorite book by John Green?

Yay! Finally, Neshomeh and I aren't the only ones anymore! Hooray!

*bows before you*

Anyway... Ahem. Welcome to the PPC. We love newbies here, so take off your shoes, leave your sanity at the door, and come on in!

As a welcome gift, I'd like to give you this piece of music by one Harrison Birtwistle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KUoKyjy6u8

Ooh, cookies! *grabs*

In other words, though, hello and welcome!

(A newbie who knows their way around, oh my!)

And now, to dispense with the exclamation marks, I give to you a lined Infinite Notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver binding. Avert your eyes!

-Aila

PS: I think the raise is either to prove a point or because back then you needed money to buy food at the Cafeteria (or good food, at least. I'm probably not remembering correctly, though, so don't take this as a certainty.

You actually managed to read through both those train wreck?

*claps*

I applaud you, good sir. I've snarked both those fics at one point (Subject 23 was a PPC mission and Parallel Realities was my first snarking with the Library of the Damned), and I know how both these fics were.

For me, though, I'd have to say that Subject 23 would probably win the fight. Actually, I'd say that I want Subject 23 to win, really. Thing is, Subject 23 is a psychopath and he's whiny and the things he does to Miranda's character are completely horrible, but at least he doesn't take over the whole galaxy at the end the way Stupard does.

And I think Subject 23 probably would win anyway, so there's that. He's basically just an X-Men character transplanted into the Mass Effect universe, so that gives him an edge against Stupard. On top of that, Subject 23's abilities allow him to keep some distance with Stupard, so that would probably help a lot as well.

While I haven't watched a lot of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, I think I watched enough episodes to see whether she's badly OOC or whatever.
...
The first chapter's name is already problematic. True Sith has a very specific meaning (Star Wars: The Old Republic spoiler warning for this link)...
-Reads some more-
WHAT?! No, no, no, stupid badfic, you're ruining canon, what do you think you're doing gaah.
... Whoever this master is, he's an idiot, giving a lightsaber to a child means he'll probably dismember himself in seconds... Training sabers exist for a ...ing reason, dammit.
"slashes across his body due to sword training"
..., even Sith do not work this way... Augh.
The first chapter's AN... WTF. Double-u. Tee. Eff. Fack the Actual Whut. Just... no.
-Deep breaths-
Right. Ahsoka. Judging from the first few paragraphs, she's completely replaced. Anakin didn't call her Snips for nothing and she shows none of that attitude. Plus, the backstory the Stuthor invented for her is completely messed up, not to mention that it won't be able to touch canon with a stick the length of the Death Star.

Reading further, she becomes much more obviously replaced the longer the fic goes on, but I was wondering if there was anything recognisable in the first bits with her. Sorry to bug the Board with dumb questions, heh.

Since there's a heck of a lot of fiction floating around in this thread, I thought I'd compile it all.

The Creation of the Continuity Council

I think I've got everything (except a few of Morgan's comments), and will continue to update as things get written. And while I'm here, I'd just like to say that I find it all hilarious - and great fun to read.

hS

Welcome, Time Lords and Ladies, to the first meeting of the Continuity Council. I'm sure we all know each other, but in case we don't, from left to right:

Ruby Shipwright Fisherman
Tigereye Castellan Morgan
Citrine Theorist/Topaz Monitor Reader (position yet to be decided)
Jade Warden Librarian
Sapphire Watcher Disentangler
Amethyst Keeper Agent

We also have a potential recruit here as an observer only: the Notary, our Spinel Promotor-elect. Everyone please make her feel welcome - but not too welcome, we don't want her getting ideas.

*Morgan*

...but is currently a little busy, so I'm writing in her place.

(Also, she's unaware of such things as the Wiki, so it's best if I take this one.)

The Reader is currently only mentioned on the Time Lord talk page due to the fact that she doesn't have a wiki page up yet (although I suppose I could make one and simply link to the Blackout Interlude?) It was suggested to me at the time that I should wait until her own wiki page existed before adding her to the list of Time Lords. She is, however, very much around--she'll actually be appearing in OFWho in the (I assume) near future, and has already appeared briefly in my Blackout Interlude. So she's definitely around, and I'm sure she'd be interested in being on this Council (if a bit wary, considering that the last Council she had any knowledge of was during the Time War). It definitely sounds like something fun to work with.

Er, there are positions left, I presume? My first thought was that she could be the Sapphire Watcher, but that seems to be taken. I've done my best to sort through the comment threads (Morgan is hilarious, by the way), but I'm not entirely sure if I'm correct in thinking that the remaining available positions are those of Topaz Monitor and Jade Warden? And possibly Chairperson?

...basically, I'm a bit confused as to what's left, but would definitely like the Reader to be a part of this. (She would, however, be best suited to something very research- or learning-oriented--she's not called the Reader purely because she reads, but rather because that's a research position title at some universities [IIRC...])

Ach. Let me know, I guess. Wish I'd checked the Board yesterday...

(And beyond all that--this looks like an awesome idea...and the Time Lord Big Stupid Collar as a name made me snicker rather a lot.)

~DF

Mostly because our missions tend to take us home, and we would be best-suited to keeping tabs on our continuum due to the nature of our work (that is, disentangling things).

As for between us, we may occasionally swap duties simply to keep the rest of you on your toes.

-Dis

Utterly brilliant, utterly hilarious, and the collars! I can't even--

I've not got Permission, and only have the vaguest, most ever-changing plans for getting it, and those don't involve Time Lord society in any way at all, but I do have a rather enthusiastic fondness for Doctor Who and the Time Lords of the PPC, and I fully support this venture. Fully, and completely, and with all my heart.

(Also, I love Agent Morgan's narration.)

-Aila

PS: I totally agree about the Panopticon doors, whoever said that farther down the thread.

*wanders off to listen to Night Vale*

I was actually not quite aware of this development, being absorbed in chasing the Osirians' riddle... it seems that running away from Gallifrey was a good idea.
However... it would not be said that the Librarian runs from responsibility. I will not allow it (I have no idea what my possible second incarnation would say).
Since my knowledge on this "plot" business is shaky at best (and nonexistent at worse), I shall defer to your judgement in this case. Since my partner tells me (Pounded into his head, more like -Agent Des) that we will probably be assigned missions in the Home Universe in the future, I shall take the position of Jade Warden in this Council of yours.
-The Librarian

Looks like great fun, a fantastic idea! Also - Time Lord ceremonial collars are not at all silly and add a certain something to any outfit. ^{Note: this last statement may consist of up to 100% Lies. Reader caution is advised.}

The Fisherman I think will be taking the post of Ruby Shipwright - given his intense dislike of temporal anomalies and interest in technology, I think it fits him well.

As for the fact that many of his interactions with technology lead to it being worse off than when he started... meh, what could possibly go wrong?

I'll do an IC mini-interlude in a mo and reply to this post with it! ^__^

(Thanks to Outhra for pointing me to this thread~!)

Although I dont have any agents (or permission for that matter) when I do start, one of my agents is intended to be a Time Lord. So if by then a spot is still open, I'll put him in.

I live in south-east England, so I'm at something of an advantage when it comes to watching Doctor Who in the first place. I should therefore like to request the position of Sapphire Watcher.

... observes that the old collars might need a little updating.



(Fear not: I intend to make them actually look pretty awesome, if I can. And be linked to the character and/or post)

hS

Just a thought, sounds interesting all the same though.

(Also, hi Morgan!)

mwhahaha. Hijack successful.

Anyway, rather than starting a new thread entirely I thought I'd put my question up on this one.

I'm working on creating a second pair of Agents to join either the DMFF or DOGA (maybe, if possible, both). One Agent I've got worked out, but the other one I've two ideas for.
The idea that I've got most problems with works thusly.
As stated on the wiki Pokemon, if bought in by an Agent from the continua are counted as pets and generally recieve a similar status to mini's. What happens if the Agent is a Pokemon, either from the Mystery Dungeon series (where they are more humanoid anyway) or if it's a Pokemon disguised as a human (Ditto or Zoroark are the two Pokemon who really have the ability to do it). With the latter, would they still be allowed to operate as an Agent even after their true form is revealed? Or would they be downgraded (not sure that's the word) to effectively become a Mini for the Agent they used to work with?

Storme Hawk

It is not the PPC's modus operandi to allow a young Sue to run around in the multiverse unsupervised just because their parent sent them away. They find the Sue-babies, make sure that the children do not pose a threat, and then bring them back to the Nursery, where they will be properly educated in the ways of canon and in being non-terrible people by the Nursery staff and the Nursery Flower, Professor Beans. Several stories have detailed Agents bringing back badfic babies, whether they're Sue offspring, slash pregnancies, or otherwise impossible births, so it's not hard to conceive that an Agent's backstory could deal with them being a former Sue-child. Maybe a misplaced adjective caused rapid aging, or the child has simply been in the Nursery since the first Pokémon badfics back in the 1990s, or something of the sort.
If you're wondering how the Agents would be able to find the baby if the Sue teleports him or her away, that's actually been addressed in a few missions in a few ways. Essentially, due to the way the Word Worlds work, a vagueness of surroundings can be altered slightly by Agents with strong enough willpower, as long as they fit the canon involved and do not contradict any of the Words. A command as vague as "somewhere else" could easily be shaped into "not here, but over there, behind that tree". If the field Agents couldn't do it, the DIA would probably be sent in for cleanup, and they would be able to shape the undefined command enough to find the baby.

Secondly, I'm not sure what you're getting at with a "reformed author". Would the original author know that their Sue was killed, and create a sequel series around the baby? Because they tend not to. Also, if the author was reformed from creating Suvians, they probably would not have written a heterochromic cat-hybrid in the Pokémon continuum unless they were doing it as a joke.
In addition, just because a character is a secondary or a supporting character, this does not make them non-Suvian. In fact, it can sometimes make their Suvian characteristics harder to detect, since the Sue wouldn't have as much screen time to display them, and thus make the character more resistant to reformation.

And I really didn't understand the last section at all. The former Sue-baby is used as a main character in a new fic because the original author was jesting with a younger sibling, and this somehow leads to the PPC finding and recruiting them? Agents usually tend to kill any bit characters that are abnormal enough to be unable to assimilate with canon, for one, and again, this one is a heterochromic cat-hybrid in the Pokémon continuum, so it's practically impossible to assimilate. Sometimes the Agents will recruit bits, if they're interesting, entertaining, or surprisingly well-rounded, but they wouldn't likely recruit a character showing above-standard levels of Suvian traits. Also, I'm not sure how the last section ties into any of the rest, since linking a badfic bit character with the complicated PPC-related backstory just seems to be unnecessary and a bit contrived. It seems like there are two ideas here, one a former Sue-child who now acts as an Agent and one a character passed off to a badfic writer who wrote them into a poor story that attracted the PPC's attention, and they don't really mesh.

I used to love that series. Haven't read it recently.

Hey, I remember that series! I've read all four, but it's been a while on the first one.

...I don't remember very much of it. I do remember liking it, though!

Also, hi! Welcome back :) Here, have a bleepolate chip cookie--the recipe's a little experimental still, I'm afraid, but it's mostly coming out in the color of the cookie dough, and seems harmless. Well, harmless in the sense that your hair may change color briefly...don't eat it before you have to go somewhere colored hair is unacceptable.

~DF

It's some years back now, but it's funny, I actually have Ring of Solomon lined up to read in the near future (as an audiobook).
I remember being awfully sad about the ending of the trilogy.

Oh, I loved them! Especially the third book; I cried so hard at the end. Haven't reread in awhile, though, so some of this conversation might go ever my head.

-Aila

So whatever you have to say, shoot. Unless it's trolling. Or miming.

I dunno if anyone will see it though. Anyway... Is it possible for agents to find and recruit a character if they are only briefly mentioned? Would said character even come into existence within the badfic? Say it were something like...

"Whos that" fluttershy asked?
"Oh" Twilight replies "Thats my sister. We have the same colors but our manes are a bit different. You could have seen her around and thought she was me"

(And, yes, intentional writing mistakes for that authentic bad fanfic feel.)

I posted a workshop/rant/thing a while ago with various tips and tricks for making characters (or at least, how I go about the process). The original post has been well and truly buried, but you can still read the information here. There's also a follow-up regarding characters with powers.

If you still have any concerns while creating your character, get someone else to look at what you have. A second set of eyes can be helpful, or at the very least get you to notice something that you might have missed at first glance.

That means, first and foremost, that in terms of personality, relationships to each other and others, and the way they act in missions, they should be interesting - not necessarily likeable, but interesting. You should also plan for character development of some kind, whether it's a major change in the character, or simply your team growing to work better together. Again, character development needn't be positive - my Agent Dafydd gets more and more power-mad as his series goes on, ending in his death (and resurrection).

Secondarily, or tied into the above, is choosing what you want them to be. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having two normal human teenagers/young adults - it's the classic setup - but you may decide you want something else. Badfic recruits are fairly common, as are characters who just joined up from their home universe, whatever it may be. And the species and background of a character will influence what you do with them.

The reason I say this is secondary is that it's all to easy to make a character you think would be awesome - let's say a Mandalorian bounty hunter who becomes a Jedi, then falls to the Dark Side, gets a cybernetic arm, and then reconverts and runs off to join one of the various Force cults dotted around the Galaxy Far Far away - only to discover that you either a) write them as if they were a human teenager, b) make them little more than a textbook of their own backstory, or c) give them so many powers that they never have to work at anything. If you know beforehand that you want to write, say, a fall-and-redemption story, then you can make a character to fit that (in this case, cut out the re-conversion and have her switch straight to the cult, so she can slowly regress to Sith methods before finally being redeemed and remade as a Jedi - or a dead Jedi).

There are no actual 'guidelines', because everything depends on the writer. What might be an overpowered Mary-Sue in one person's hands could be incredibly well-written in another's. Just remember: agents are supposed to have a difficult job, so don't keep adding on things to make it easier. And be aware that Phobos and Neshomeh will ask you why every single trait exists. ;) (Sorry, guys, but it's true!)

And yes, it's fine to have multiple agent teams. However, given that most people who get Permission end up writing one mission and then vanishing off the face of the Board, it might be better to start with one to avoid overloading yourself. :D

hS

...I've been trying to verify some information on the wiki, and I think you might be able to help. Would it be okay to fire a question or two at you via e-mail?

...my knolage of Myst is rather restricted. I get the premice, and I have played through a good chunk of the first game, but I have no workable knowlage of the canon. Sorry.

Don't tempt me to post my prospective agents too!

*Resisting temptation... or at least trying to*

Just like DrMarble, I would like for some criticism on my would-be agents. Would that be alright?

Agent Catharsis

Home continuum: Fire Emblem 8

Species: Human

Personality: Catharsis is intelligent and kind (a bit too kind for a PPC agent), with a large number of neuroses and a rather weak stomach. He is the saner half of the duo. He is easily nauseated, disgusted and disturbed by badfic shenanigans, and has a paranoid fear of humanoid abominations. In spite of this, he is determined to do what he considers the right thing.

Backstory: Catharsis was a random badfic mook who had the fortune of not being slaughtered by monsters. He fell into a plothole straight into the Cafeteria floor face-first and no one took notice. He wandered about until he ended up in one of the Flowers' offices, where he was assigned to RC#7149 without even the slightest of PPC training.

Skills/Traits: As a FE8 Druid, he is capable of using Dark magic and Anima, or Element magic along with the ability to use staves. He also has an absurd magic resistance. However, due to lack of training, he is nearly clueless on modern technology.

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Agent Jackets

Home continuum: World 1 - Yugioh GX

Species: Human

Personality: Jackets is a jumpy, temperamental, absent-minded introvert with a nigh-insatiable thirst for knowledge and a fondness for body horror. She is not easily disgusted by badfic biology due to said fondness for body horror. However, she is easily annoyed by other badfic shenanigans, especially if they involved her Lust Object. She also has self-esteem issues and apologizes a lot.

Backstory: Jackets was a college student who has found herself walking straight into the middle of a YGO GX badfic. There, she spent most of her time trying to help her Lust Object find his real students and avoid getting herself killed by PPC agents.

She was rescued by the PPC, but instead of returning to World 1, she joined the PPC as a chance to save the Yugioh GX Word World from badfic mayhem (and learn something along the way).

Skills: Jackets has a good grasp of Yugioh GX canon, especially that of the first two seasons, and knows a number of other canons too. She uses a Different Dimension deck when she duels - usually to distract the target. Also, her devotion to her Lust Object has made her well-versed in RL alchemy and obscure references. She has absolutely no sense of direction though.

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Sorry for hijacking your thread, DrMarble. I don't want to start a new thread, and I have no idea where to put it.

Since I've been thinking a lot about Time Lords of late, some questions:

-Why a Time Lord? There are countless other species with 'trademark intelligence', so why do you want a Time Lord? (I'm not saying you shouldn't - but it's best to have a reason beyond 'Time Lords are cool now')

-Why doesn't he use his name? You say he 'has preferred to be an observer in the past', which ties in very nicely with the Time Lord cultural tendency to sit on Gallifrey and practice non-interference. Most Time Lords still on Gallifrey use either their name (Borusa, Romana, Rassilon, Flavia, etc etc etc), or an actual official title (the Castellan - and even then, two of the three known Castellans used their names too). So what caused your Time Lord to reject his name? It seems to be a fairly common habit for renegades - but yours clearly fits the profile of a non-renegade.

-Which leads to: why does he have a TARDIS? They're not actually handed out left, right, and centre, y'know. Time Lords don't usually leave Gallifrey. When they do, they're either on some sort of mission for the High Council - in which case I assume they get a stock TARDIS from the docks - or they're a renegade, in which case they usually steal one (see: the Doctor). Since your Time Lord's personality isn't that of a renegade - why is he one?

A suggestion/question/theory: what happens when you try to fly a TARDIS out of a time-locked series of events? We know you can't actually escape to the outside universe - otherwise there would be as many 'last of the Time Lords'es as there were TARDISes on Gallifrey. Do you just loop back round? Or is there a chance that you jump continuums entirely - and end up in another universe, a fictional universe, where you attract the attention of the PPC? I can't imagine that would be very good for your TARDIS.

If I'm reading your Time Lord right, the idea of him being on Gallifrey up until the Time War - and then stealing a TARDIS and running for it - would fit well. It still wouldn't explain why he doesn't use his name, though; I'll wait for your answer on that one. And the others, of course: I'm just theorising, not writing your backstory for you.

hS

Just how incompetent is he? Bumbling-incompetent with the occasional flashes of competence or hopelessly pathetic at his job kind of incompetent?

Just a few things. Overall it looks like a good base, but you'll need to give each agent more depth really.

1) what world's/continua are Ezekiel and Erik from, Ezekiel sounds from his description like he's from World one, but his name sounds like something out of Warhammer 40k (actually, just checked, it is the name of a character in 40k).
2) I'd temper down Ezekiel's anger (pun fully intended), rather than it being 'unmatched by anyone' just have him get very angry or something like that, 'unmatched by anyone' sounds a bit OP and maybe Sueish.
3) "The Death of Nick"? Maybe it's for the better but I haven't heard of it.
4) Just a query, but 3 Agents? I assume you'll have them working as one group.

I've just realised something:

Agent Wobbles really could take out Robert The Destroyer in one punch. It's just that she also does this to anything more mechanically complex than the average spoon.

Oh, and the Notary is one of the most obnoxious people alive, but we already knew that. =]

--parp

Right. There are four - well, five - things we look for in a Permission Requester (is that a term? That's not a term).

-Interaction. Have you spent time getting to know the community? Er, yes, yes you have. No more to say there.

-Understanding of the PPC canon. Well, you know about Nursery (and that it's part of Operations), and the character of the Marquis (or current character, I should say - apparently J&A wrote him differently). I'm going to say yes to this one, too, on general evidence.

-The badfic (this is sort of a secondary check). It's not something I'd choose to take myself, and I'm about 85% sure it's a troll, but it's certainly a bad fic. If you think you can find the humour to make it worth a mission (remember, it's 'worth writing a mission', not 'worth killing'; lots of things deserve to die, but wouldn't be funny to read about), then I guess it's an okay choice.

-The agents. You already know I like the Notary; I also like Wobbles, though she's making me want to make a full schedule for Nursery TV, with pictures (I was the first person to mention it). So I think they're good, too (and Dresden's Disease makes me snort).

-The writing sample. This is the one I'm not so sure on. SPG is fine, of course. Your description seems okay, and character motivation seems to work too. The only concern I really have is that it reads like you're making massive changes to canon - and I have no idea whether it works, because it's not my fandom.

But... eh, no-one ever said this job would be simple.

I'm going to say Permission Granted, with the obvious proviso that - just like everyone else in the entire PPC - if you misinterpret or change something in the PPC canon, and people don't like it, you should be willing to edit your story to fit (as I keep doing, most recently when I had to give Admiral Pansy his accent back). But other than that - have fun!

Also, I guess this means the Spinel Promotor is a full member of the Continuity Council. Greeeeeeat... (Sorry, Morgan got in again there)

hS

*... Looks at comments.*

*Backs away slowly.*

I've read the story and I like it so far. It flows well and is easy to follow.
Keep in mind that I don't know anything about Bakugan and only the litte rest I remember from playing the games about Pokemon, so I might not be the best judge of canonical accuracy. Even though, I think you did a good job of describing the locations and characters, as I could envision them pretty clearly.
I'll make sure to continue reading this fanfic.

They say, "The more, the merrier," but whoa!

Either way, a few preliminaries. To all three of you, welcome to the PPC! A few words on terminology (this is mainly for RinaAndRanda, but you may also benefit from this, DramaTwist):
By introducing yourselves on the Board, you are now members of the PPC. However, you are not Agents. You, the human behind the computer, are a Boarder. The characters that you will eventually write once you gain Permission, that is, the ones who will be going into the Word Worlds, are the Agents.

Also, RinaAndRanda, I'll reiterate that it would be best if you introduced yourselves in a separate post. Even though some people have already welcomed you here, it would still be a good idea to create a new post so that it is clear to people who may be showing up after today that three newbies joined, not just one.

That said, off to the newbie gifts:

For DramaTwist,
*rummages through bag of holding*
you can have this Muggle-Use Wand! Just be careful what/whom you point it at!

For Rina and Randa...
*rummages through bag of holding*
hmmm, what to give?

*rummages some more*
Aha!

*pulls out two Poke Balls*
One of these Poke Balls has a Shiny Ariados. If either of you like Aragog, then this is for you.
The other one has a Rapidash, a/k/a Angry Twilight Sparkle.
I'll leave it to you to decide who takes which Pokemon.

Enjoy the craziness that is the PPC!

Here, have a ball of twine, half a box of watercolors, and some dangerous macaroons!

It's been a while since that last happened! Welcome to the Board, DramaTwist and artemis.hunt! Normally, I'd send posts like this to you individually, but since I'd be repeating myself, I'll just address you both simultaneously.

What have you read so far? The Original Series? Any spin-offs? And if you have read some spin-offs, which is your favorite?

What are your fandoms? Any preferred book series, television shows, or video games? Telling us your fandoms helps us get to know you a little better, and can also give the Boarders an idea of what sort of gifts to bring you.

And to top this sequence off, <a href="http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/PPCConstitution">have a link to the wiki! That particular link leads to a copy of the Constitution, which details the rules of the Board, but the wiki has information on practically everything in the PPC Multiverse, so it's a good way to find new spin-offs and learn about how everything works here.

Now for gifts! You both can have one mysteriously levitating glowing sphere each, with the color or pattern of your choice! They look cool, can expand or contract at a mental command, and are practically indestructible, but don't try and push one down to make contact with the ground. The results won't be pretty.

Pretty much what the subject says... Um, so hi. I'm Rina, and my buddy is Randa, and we're hoping to one day become full members if the PPC. And that's... pretty much it.

Hello! I pretty much just joined, but welcome anyway! :P

Have an urple pillow. It's really soft, just don't look at it for too long.

Nice to meet you! Have a set of fireworks from Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes!

Have this Bleeprin-laced custard pie and unicycle! Because forgetfulness and unicycles are the best> combination. =]

--parp

Hi, have some fudge!

Are there any books/TV shows/movies you really like?

Have this PPC mug of infinite tea, coffee or whatever you like to drink.