Thanks to Slorp the meatloaf aberration, the group of ypurs introduced to HQ in 2008 escaped from the Cafeteria and then from HQ itself! It's straight from one madhouse to another however, as the Fisherman, Evie and two DoSAT techs are finding out...
Part 1 exists here: Clicky!.
Further parts will follow shortly. ^__^
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Another Blackout interlude - GLaDOS vs Ypurs by
on 2013-04-21 00:08:00 UTC
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Part 3 now available for your eyeballs by
on 2013-04-28 12:26:00 UTC
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Clicky!
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Hee! by
on 2013-04-29 09:18:00 UTC
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"It missed you! Well, it won't this time."
Brilliant. Enjoying this very much.
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THE PLOT ESCALATES! by
on 2013-04-28 18:00:00 UTC
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I'm sitting on the edge of my seat here, Fish, don't let me down!
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Oh my... by
on 2013-04-28 19:02:00 UTC
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...don't fall off Lily! And I shall do my best not to!
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*prods Outhra* by
on 2013-04-26 00:39:00 UTC
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Would you mind reading through Part 3 for SPaG before I post it? If not don't worry, but I thought it can't hurt to ask!
Sorry for the delay with updating by the way! ^^' -
Sure! by
on 2013-04-26 01:10:00 UTC
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You'll find both of my e-mail addresses in this post. Is it on a Google Doc, or another site, or will you just e-mail me a Word file, or is some fourth thing involved? How will this work?
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Thank you! by
on 2013-04-26 20:11:00 UTC
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I shall email you a Word file to your GMail account, if that is okay?
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I await your e-mail. by
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Would you prefer I fix the SPaG problems in the Word document, and then send it back, or reply with an e-mail stating the recommended changes, or another method?
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Sent! Sorry for the delay ^^' (nm) by
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Part 2... by
on 2013-04-23 00:39:00 UTC
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...now exists!
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That's pretty funny. by
on 2013-04-24 16:07:00 UTC
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Wait, did I reply to Part 1? That was pretty funny too.
I particularly liked GLaDOS preparing 'a gift' - actually, I liked her characterisation in general. 'Oh, are you finished. Good. Right on time.'
I do worry a bit about Evie, though... I remember what happened last time someone tried to take control of Aperture's computer systems...
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Hehehehehe~ ;)
*ahem* I meant to say: whatever do you mean, hS? -
Eeeeexcellent. by
on 2013-04-26 08:26:00 UTC
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(Currently replaying Portal 2. Yeeeep, still awesome)
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Awesome job. by
on 2013-04-23 19:15:00 UTC
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You've got GLaDOS down pat, the action flows well, and the dialogue is priceless.
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And it is awesome. (nm) by
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SpaG Report by
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Here's what I caught, in order:
"This could take a while Fish" needs a comma after "while"
"do you think she'll really go for this 'distraction'." needs a question mark, not a period/full stop.
"she's a computer, multi-tasking is" That comma should be a semicolon.
"entity he was about to face. Changed" There should be a comma instead of a period/full stop, and the subsequent capitalization fix. Fragments, you know. If you want to keep it a sentence, add "She was" to the beginning, and a "they were" after that sentence's "but" couldn't hurt. Additionally, "originally" may be a better word in that sentence than "effectively", considering that Evie is no longer the same as GLaDOS.
"GLaDOS'" should be "GLaDOS's", since there is only one GLaDOS in the area at the time.
"(well, it does sort-of" should have a comma after "does".
"reality-warping entites" should be "reality-warping entities"
"She's not all bad really." could use a comma after "bad".
"Oh, are you finished." should be "Oh, you are finished." or "Oh, are you finished?" I'm not sure which you were going for.
"your sort of thing though really" needs another comma after "though".
"the AI spoke with almost visceral disgust" should either capitalize the T in "The" or change "spoke" to "said".
"worm like construct" should have a hyphen between the first two words.
"superheated plasma he shot" needs a comma after "plasma"
"He emerged in a heap in one of the control rooms" is confusingly phrased. Maybe "He emerged from a heap in one of the control rooms", but you do not emerge while in a heap. It's like "grinning" a line of dialogue. It is hard to do.
"it on. "Missed me, GLaDOS. Now, listen" You could do worse than starting a new paragraph when the Fisherman begins talking.
"status-quo" should not be hyphenated.
Another "GLaDOS'" should be "GLaDOS's".
"Me, oh I'm just a" should be "Me? Oh, I'm just a".
"walkie talkie" was hyphenated a few lines before. I've seen it both ways, but pick one and stick with it.
"exception occured" should be "exception occurred"
"main facility intercom" I don't know the context, but "facility" should probably still be "facility's".
"Us two; two other humanoids, the DoSAT techs I imagine, and twenty-three" This is a tricky one. I could say remove the semicolon and make it a comma, but "the DoSAT techs I imagine" could be considered a separated phrase. If it is, the rule would be to make the comma before "and" another semi-colon, but that doesn't look right to me. Deal with this how you feel is best. Maybe just ignore it even; it's not that huge a problem.
"heard that fishface" should have a comma after "that".
"near darkness they had" needs another comma after "darkness".
"Well, Xylander had shut himself inside and refused to come out and" The "Well," is unnecessary and should be removed, and there should be a comma after "out".
"remember you Xylander" should have a comma after "you".
"Test Chamber 05, that should" There should be either a semicolon or a period/full stop after that comma. "He'll have a Remote Activator, you'll just need" has the same issue.
"Makes sense seeing as he is one." should have a comma after "sense".
"moment the techies" should have a comma after "moment".
"Now, where are these ypurs." should end in a question mark.
"a group of three ypurs and pressed" should have a comma after "ypurs".
"Don't tell me it's broken," Misa sighed." That comma should be a period/full stop, and it is very hard to sigh a line of dialogue. It's not as bad as grinning it, so you can keep that if you can't find a substitute, but it bugs me.
"white tiled" should be hyphenated.
"to get the things over here somehow," Xylander said" should have a period/full stop not a comma.
"next ten minutes they prodded" should have a comma after "minutes".
"Chamber 09, head there next," Evie replied. "Bad news is that you'll have to walk it, there aren't any" has two commas, one after "09" and one after "walk it" that should be either periods/full stops or semicolons.
"day just gets better and better," the Fisherman sighed." has a comma after "better and better" that should be a period/full stop, and there's that sighing-a-line-of-dialogue problem again.
It's a lot, but I don't like missing typos in the reports, and I've been getting annyed at my previous two SpaG reprts being lackluster. Also, I don't know if you use the term "period" or "full stop" to refer to the end-of-sentence dots, so I used both, as you could see. -
Thank you for going through it all like this! by
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Really appreciated - and the number of errors probably goes to show that I shouldn't write late at night, especially not while I have a cold! I shall go through and correct things before uploading Part 3. :)
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No problem! by
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I'm always happy to help with that sort of thing. I wish I'd played Portal, though; the story's good even with my lack of experience in its continuum, but more knowledge of GLaDOS would probably make the jokes funnier.
On a similar note, though not related to the story itself, I noticed to my ongoing irritation that I'd left out o's in "annoyed" and "reports" in the last sentence of my SpaG report. Oh, irony, why do you do this? -
Yesssssss. by
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I love Fish's confrontation with GLaDOS. It sounds like your typical Time Lord-meets-cool-AI sort of confrontation. Heh.
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Ooh, this is great! by
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I love that they got stuck in the Portal universe. Can't wait to see what happens next!
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Looking good! by
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I especially love how GLaDOS taunts the two techies.
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Huzzah! by
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I look forward to reading Part Two. :3
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This clears a few things up. by
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So, between the point in which the full stampede of ypurs escaped Slorp and the point in which they entered Aperture Science, there was an unknown period of time in which twenty-three of them were loose as a small but separate group, and then captured in a forcefield through unknown circumstances.
(rubs hands together) And now I have a time frame for my Blackout interlude.
I love a ragged but orderly timestream. It's so much more fun to come up with new events when you know where the gaps are that they could go into. -
Basically correct by
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With the small caveat that as the total number of ypurs in the stampede has not been stated, I thought I'd leave it vague as to whether the twenty-three that escaped was the whole lot, or whether they were just one group of many (in separate forcefields). I shall probably go with the second option now that you mention it.
Basic timeline as I see it:- Slorp comes into existence and spooks ypurs into the corridors of HQ.
- Ypurs rampage through HQ, until Evie and others come up with a way of trapping them in a DoSAT vehicle hangar.
- A group of 23 (maybe the whole lot, maybe a subset) are let out of their forcefield to prevent them going bonkers in the enclosed space. The group happen to run over a portal to Aperture Science and are lost.
- Evie retrieves Fish from the Time Lord reunion and this interlude starts.
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Asking questions. by
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I feel like some things need to be cleared up before I continue.
1. How does recruitment function? Is there really anything formal about it, or is it more or less being handed a uniform and the instructions to a RC?
2. With HQ's shields being gone during the Blackout, could the writing of someone have affected it in some way (inserting someone in there during that time, for example)?
Apologies if these questions are similar to things I've asked a million times before at some point, or are dumb for one reason for another. -
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1.) I suppose it depends on the writer of the particular agent/recruit. If you're talking about in-fic recruitment, then it's usually a simple offer for the recruit to have 'a chance to, y'know, continue to exist', and then send them to the Marquis de Sod, who takes care of all of the paperwork, partner/RC assignments, etc, etc.
If you're talking about out-of-fic recruitment, then I'm not sure. It probably varies from person to person.
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That second question doesn't make a lot of sense. by
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I think it's just oddly phrased. Are you asking if someone could write about the period of the Blackout when the shields first went down? If so, yes, you can.
I can answer the other one, though.
A recruit can be anyone that the agents assigned to a mission decides is sufficiently non-Sueish enough to be involved in PPC matters. Usually they pick bit characters that impress them in some way for this, though supporting characters or even secondary Sues have been recruited before.
Then, to find out how the new arrival will work best in the organization, a recruit's skills and pre-existing canon knowledge are determined by the Department of Personnel, and they assign agent preparation schedules, preferred canons to work in, and the best Department to give the new Agent to. The latter is the Marquis de Sod's job, which is why most agents drop off the new recruits at his office.
Based on prior ability, experience, and the workload of whoever's doing the paperwork that day, sometimes there's a training process, sometimes the recruit decides or is assigned to spend time as an intern to gain canon knowledge or general prestige before getting full agent status, and sometimes extenuating circumstances prevent a recruit from becoming an agent for a while.
Obviously, in order to become an Assassin, an agent would have to be able to use at least one deadly weapon proficiently, a Bad Slasher would need above-average smut tolerance, and an Agent in an Infrastructure Department would need to be able to fix things or work in financial matters or whatever happens there. There are a lot of Infrastructure Departments, and I don't remember them all.
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Forget I said anything about that second question by
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I wasn't thinking...
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All right, then. by
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Was there anything else that you wanted to ask?
Did my answer to your first question cover all that you needed it to?
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Gandolf the mini-Balrog is famous! by
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He's getting fan mail, although it's being routed to the wrong continuum:
Let's see . . . looks like someone named Katie adopted Gandolf from Miss Cam way back in the day. Not someone we know, unless that was a nickname for Kaitlyn back then?
Anyway, somebody who's actually read OFUM should write something silly? Maybe?
(Seriously, people behind Wizard of Id. Google only takes a second. One. Second. They spelled another word wrong, too.) -
Well... by
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He's not the first mini to appear in a published work. At OFAS, we have a mini named Ryker who appeared in The Princess Diaries by Meg Cabot. In fact, that's where I found him. He hasn't appeared yet, but I was planning to make him have a superiority complex.
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Actually, I think the misspellings may be part of the point. (nm by
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A question by
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What is the attitude of the Flowers towards shovels?
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Shovels? by
on 2013-04-21 09:40:00 UTC
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Probably: Why did you bring this into my office? You do know we are not permanently rooted like our non-sentient cousins, right? Wait, what are you doing? OW! Stop! Security! Captain Dandy, somebody, stop this crazy agent!
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Karen: ...I suppose that explains some things. by
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Namely, what M. was doing when D. went to collect her.
(Seriously, if anything like this happens, it's going in the Adventures. And D.'s not going to be happy at all, considering her current condition.)
((There, that's my code. It's a really bad code. I think the implication that D. is pregnant may have thrown them off, though!))
Also, World-Jumper? Genius. Pure genius. I love it.
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It does indeed. by
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D. probably won't be happy, because I'm starting to think that's exactly what happened. ;D
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Whaaaaat. by
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Ok, yeah, D. is going to be downright upset. Especially when she comes back and finds that B.'s in her chair and she can't even sit down, she has to stay with the shovel-wielding maniac.
Yup, the code is fun! Not very secure, but fun :)
(...of course that's what happened. M. WOULD do that. Why are so many of our characters off to a rocky start in their relationships? D. and M., D. and...everyone, really, D. and B., N. and F...F. and C. and p...)
(...actually, this might be a better code than I thought! Let me know if you manage not to be confused by this :) )
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I know exactly what you're saying, no worries. by
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The code is quite simple.
And I'd like to make it clear that M. only did some shovel-bashing because the flower was talking and /flowers don't talk/ so she thought it best to neutralize the threat before it could eat her. -
Sir, my hat's off to you. (nm) by
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Oh my. by
on 2013-04-21 17:21:00 UTC
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This is perfect.
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This is a wonderful answer and I love it (nm) by
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An answer. by
on 2013-04-21 07:22:00 UTC
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"So long as you keep that thing out of my office, then we won't be having any issues on the matter."
I assume.
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Um... hello by
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I am Voyd. I recently got into the PPC and would like to do some writing-type stuff.
I am not sure where my vocabulary went, I can talk better than that. -
Tragically belated welcome! by
on 2013-04-24 00:23:00 UTC
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Here, have some Bleep'n'ms and an Unspecified Plushie!
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welcome by
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Have some Bleep Blap! It's teh bleeprin version of kit kat! 98% arsenic free!
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Don't worry about it :) by
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We all have those brain farts. Anyway, welcome to the board.
May I present you with a pint of bleepolite chocolate ice cream, with extra chocolate? I think I've finally got the formula down. Eh, everyone I feed it to seems to enjoy it. -
Eh... by
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Too much chocolate. I prefer vanilla, although strawberry is awesome.
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Dang it! by
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I was wondering if that would happen. Sorry....here....
(takes something out of the freezer) You want some vanilla flavored, bleeprin laced ice cream instead? I want to give you something you'll like. It's your welcome to the board present! -
Hallo! by
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Welcome to the board! Have a replacement vocabulary to replace you're lost one.
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Hi, Voyd! by
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It's okay, the PPC can do that. Welcome to the Board!
Please have this one (1) Fluffy Wambler. It's native to the Dwarf Fortress continuum, but lovably soft and cuddly anywhere!
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Oi! by
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Welcome to the Board! Have some of my hydrophobic water to commemorate the event. Totally not related to the Resonance Cascade.
Since you're a Mario fan too, I'd like to add a Fire Flower to your growing pile of e-gifts! -
Good to have you a-Board! by
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Greetings new friend! Have a Voidshard!
And then embrace the stillness of eternity! -
OOps, alomst forgot to ask: by
on 2013-04-22 02:37:00 UTC
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How did you first run across the PPC?
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Short answer? by
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TV Tropes.
Long answer?
Television Tropes and Idioms. -
Hi, newbie! by
on 2013-04-22 02:36:00 UTC
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Wow, quite a few fandoms! And some of overlap with mine, too!
But before I go any further, the obligatory newbie gift!
*rummages through Pokemon-verse bag of holding*
Ta-dah! Have a Pokemon Adventures-verse Ditto, able to transform into anything that it has seen at will, not just whatever is in front of it. -
Hello! by
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Have some lemming repellent!
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Current progress on required reading by
on 2013-04-21 20:22:00 UTC
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Currently on Mission 8 of the Original Series. Besides that, I've read most of Redwall missions done by Laburnum.
Also, would it be rather excessive to put a Sue in Pathfinder's Plane of Earth, plant some explosives, and cause a cave-in while singing and playing "Can't Stop the Rock" on accordion?
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Huh. by
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I'm somewhat surprised that no one commented on the execution itself.
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Rockslides are cool. by
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That was never in question. They're only not cool when you're in their path.
Plus, I don't think more than maybe one person has even killed a Sue with a rockslide, so it's still a fresh idea. It's not like "toss it into a volcano", which is just as deadly, but has become so common that people now want to spice it up by involving catapults or scorpions just to make it a more unique spectacle. -
Chance you could share the links to the Redwall missions? by
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I'd find them myself, but ugh, I'm just so
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You could always just use the Redwall page on the PPC wiki. by
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It's got a list of "missions in this continuum" at the bottom. The Redwall missions from That Series are in their own page, by virtue of being Legendary Badfic.
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You leanr something new every day. Thanks! (nm) by
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learn* oops (nm) by
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Depends on the Sue's offenses. by
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Usually, it's frowned upon by the Flowers to execute a Sue outside the continuum unless it's for poetic justice or whatever you're going to do in the outside continuum would be really funny.
That, and I'm not sure what sort of Suvian acts would provoke that sort of reaction from an Agent. Is there a specific Sue you're thinking of giving this treatment? If so, could you link the badfic it comes from? I'd like to see just how nasty it is. -
Depends on who you're asking by
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I'm not one to be too silly about things, even though it does seem to be my major downfall.
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My fandoms? by
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I'll be writing a while. Redwall, Old Kingdom/Abhorsen, Inheritance, Harry Potter, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mario, Pokémon, Legend of Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, Halo, Asura's Wrath, MLP: Friendship is Magic (formerly), Mischief Makers, Marvel Cinematic Universe (for some reason, I think bog-standard comics aren't nerdy ENOUGH for me), Hellsing, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Dragon Ball Z, Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo, Yotsuba&!, Garfield, Calvin and Hobbes, FoxTrot, Vocaloid, Touhou, Transformers, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Disney Animated Canon, Questionable Content, Menage a 3, El Goonish Shive, Sayonara Zetsubou-Sensei, Daily Life with Monster Girl, Katawa Shoujo, League of Legends, Awkward Zombie, the Order of the Stick, Pathfinder, and Tremors.
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Ooh, Disney Animated Canon! by
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It would be great to PPC some of those. I wish I didn't know that there's fanfiction of The Little Mermaid, but... anyway, we should definitely collaborate on some Disneyfic.
Also, Order of the Stick! Is there seriously fanfiction for that? I can imagine that assigning Vaarsuvius a gender is a common charge... -
Collaboration? by
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I'm still not entirely sure how collaborative writing works.
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Oh, wow. Lots of fandoms. by
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Man, now I feel like I should have listed all of my fandoms when I started out. I only gave my top ten or so. And a lot of your fandoms here overlap with ones I didn't list!
Why the "formerly" for MLP:FIM? Did it have to do with the Season Three finale? -
No, actually by
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I never even got that far. The stupid stuff started sticking out to me more, and overall I just got tired of it.
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Hai! by
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I'm a newbie too!
Here, have a pillow to hide all your gifts under! -
And another newbie nicknaming ceremony begins... by
on 2013-04-21 19:08:00 UTC
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Although I'll probably forget it, but eh, I like giving weird nicknames nobody uses.
Let's see...Voyd, space, blank, bloom, fuchsia, lady, Sealand, fort, pillow, feather, dinosaur, excavate, archaeology, Layton, puzzles, Legend of Zelda, Nintendo, Kirby, penguin, suit, costume, superhero, Captain America, shield, Shieldon...?
Darn it, that was far too long. Oh well, looks like you're going to be Shieldon, for about three posts until I forget it. Hope you like cute things! -
First plover! by
on 2013-04-21 18:13:00 UTC
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What are your fandoms?
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Issa newbie! by
on 2013-04-21 17:55:00 UTC
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Here, have two bouncy balls, three art pencils, two packets of hot cocoa, and this shiny plastic bag!
Welcome to the board. Most members (including myself) are mostly harmless, unless bearing badfic. :) -
Greeting Glomp! by
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Nice to have you here! Here, take these cookies. Don't mind the bits of burnt flesh.
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Hello! by
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Have a cap gun that eliminated a black hole from existence once. It's broken now, but it used to do that kind of thing all the time.
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Hello, Voyd211! by
on 2013-04-21 14:23:00 UTC
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Wiki link! That's the link to the Board Consitution, which everybody should read and at least one person posts in every newbie thread.
Recapture your vocabulary with this psionic scanner! It's got to be hiding around here somewhere. If it reveals the mental signatures of someone hiding in your house, that's just a bonus! Well, finding them is a bonus. Not them being there. Make sure you find out why they're in your house if you detect any.
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Hello! by
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I’m doodlebug, though a-rubra is one of my usual internet handles. I'm a long-time lurker hereabouts, recently started re-reading old mission reports and OFUs as a break from studying and homework. Figured I might as well stop by and introduce myself since I've been having so much fun. :)
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Welcome back a-board! by
on 2013-04-24 02:32:00 UTC
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Belated. Yeah. But...well...it's us! And we're welcoming you! Hello!
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Another belated welcome! by
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I have an Unspecified Plushie and some Bleep'n'ms for you!
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A late Hello to you too. by
on 2013-04-23 20:02:00 UTC
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Well, I must give you something now, mustn't I?
I offer you a virtual magical leatherskin. Imbued with magical properties to fulfill your wish, at the price of a piece of of it falling off. Be careful, if your leatherskin are all used up, all the wishes will be reverted. -
Hi by
on 2013-04-23 04:56:00 UTC
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Well hello! I'm relatively new here, so ya.
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hehe, Hello! by
on 2013-04-22 23:02:00 UTC
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Nice to have you on the board. Have some bleepolate ice cream, extra chocolate! Lord knows, with all the badfics we discuss, you'll need it.
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So much badfic ... by
on 2013-04-23 03:25:00 UTC
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Bleepolate ice cream sounds delicious!
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Hello! by
on 2013-04-22 16:22:00 UTC
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Welcome to the Board! Have a pie. It's probably not poisoned.
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om nom by
on 2013-04-23 02:06:00 UTC
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Poisoned pie? Impossible!
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Hello, doodlebug! by
on 2013-04-22 15:46:00 UTC
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We're glad to have you on the Board!
Please have this one (1) Fluffy Wambler. It's native to the Dwarf Fortress continuum, but lovably soft and cuddly anywhere!
See you around the Board! -
Lovable soft and cuddly? by
on 2013-04-23 01:55:00 UTC
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I shall name it Squishy and it shall be mine and it shall be my Squishy.
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Hey there! by
on 2013-04-22 07:52:00 UTC
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Welcome to the Board! Have some of my hydrophobic water to commemorate the event. It's like a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster, but in reverse.
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Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster in reverse? by
on 2013-04-22 08:00:00 UTC
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Let's see ... so instead of having your brain smashed in by a slice of lemon wrapped around a gold brick it's like having your brain pulled out?
Ooo sounds fun! Thank you very much. -
Good to have you a-Board! by
on 2013-04-22 05:04:00 UTC
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Greetings, new friend! Have a laser-rainbow dragonfly!
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Shiny! by
on 2013-04-22 06:32:00 UTC
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Pretty colors ...
DAMN YOU HOMEWORK. I knew there was something else I was supposed to be doing! -
A lurker, eh? by
on 2013-04-22 02:43:00 UTC
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Well, congratulations on coming out into the light! I myself could have been considered a lurker, as I spent months reading PPC missions before I introduced myself onto the Board.
But enough about me, what about you? How did you first run across the PPC? What are your fandoms? And most importantly, have you read the Original Series and the PPC Constitution?
Oh yeah, your gift! Well, given that you are a lurker...
*rummages through Pokemon-Trainer-issue bag of holding*
Have a Wobbuffet! -
Fandoms and other fun stuff by
on 2013-04-22 07:19:00 UTC
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Thanks! I'm sure I can find a dark corner for Wobbuffet somewhere...
At the moment, Tolkien, Harry Potter, and Doctor Who are the my only stable fandoms. Hetalia might be joining the list if I ever get around to catching up on the series.
I'm pretty sure I first found out about the PPC thanks to OFUM, at least six years ago. It held my interest for a while and then I promptly forgot about it until I stumbled across the PPC page over at TV Tropes three years ago. Since then, I've been stopping by every few months to lurk. I should probably go take a look at the Constitution, I'm not sure if I've read it before... -
Lurkers of the world, unite! by
on 2013-04-22 00:46:00 UTC
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Have some lemming repellent.
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Re: Lurkers of the world, unite! by
on 2013-04-22 07:22:00 UTC
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Oooh, this will be useful if I ever go digging for goodfic again!
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Did you know... by
on 2013-04-21 21:43:00 UTC
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That the "doodlebug" is one of the names of ant lions, given because of the way they create their funnel traps (It kind of looks like they're doodling around in spirals) and that ant lions look kind of awesome? And they achieve that level of awesome and funny-looking as grubs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antlion
Not that I'm implying you're funny looking, I can't see through the internet.
So here, have a bouncy ball, a sample pack of chocolates, half a stapler, a spring, and one blue pen. See you next time you pop out of the woodwork! -
Unnecessary macro pictures are unnecessary by
on 2013-04-22 07:29:00 UTC
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Thank you for giving me nightmare fuel Wikipedia.
I did not know that! Now that I do know, I'm off to gosmack a friend for saddling me with this nicknamescrub those pictures from my mind with bleach.
Chocolate, gimme gimme gimme! I ran out and I need fuel for studying...
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Sorry? *Grins* by
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The left half. Don't ask me where the rest got to. :)
(Silly Swans, pictures of adorable bugs are for bio majors, not boarders!) Nah, sorry. I keep forgetting that I have a much higher "weird alien bug" tolerance than most people. And a higher "and this is how they make mummies!" tolerance. I was a scary little kid, I tell you. -
*Whimpering* by
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Oh, but whenever someone says that to me I simply have to ask! :(
Oh, how do they make mummies? I read about it as a kid but I've gone and forgotten everything now.
Really, I just hate bugs in general. They're one of the only things that make me very squeamish. -
They start by removing the organs by
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If you don't like this, stop reading soon. I present to you the five step process for creating mummies!
1) The heart, lungs, stomach and liver are washed in palm wine and preserved in canopic jars along with copious amounts of natron salt. They're basically little clay jars with the faces of gods. I used to know which god went with each of the four organs, which made me popular with groups of boys at haloween, not so much the rest of the year.
2) Other organs, such as the brain, are thrown out. They didn't see much use for the large intestine (given what it was full of...) and they removed the brain by breaking through the septum and the back of the nose, then whisking around with a wire and draining the skull. King tut had his head packed with resin after that so it would stay the right shape: they didn't do that to everyone.
3) Wash everything in palm wine, pack it in natron salt for forty days inside and out in order to bring all the moisture out and kill all the bacteria.
4) Depending on the dynasty, either put the preserved organs back in or leave them in their jars while you sew the dude back up and wrap him in forty layers of bandages (the finest linen for a pharoh,) and cover him in amulets to ward off evil spirits and ensure that his Ba (part of his soul) can return.
5)Bury him with a massive procession, paid public mourners, and as many grave goods as you can stuff in a pyramid.
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I never did figure out how they got the brain out by
on 2013-04-23 06:17:00 UTC
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Never considered the possibility that they might break a few bones in order to do so. That makes so much sense, though.
Paid public mourners? I wouldn't mind mourning a pharaoh if they paid me for it! -
It was a great job for girls by
on 2013-04-23 21:50:00 UTC
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They paid you to make a lot of noise and grind dirt into your hair. The louder and dirtier, the better.
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*waves* by
on 2013-04-22 00:44:00 UTC
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Here, have some corporeal shadows to hide in! *tosses shadows*
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Oops, I replied to the wrong message; by
on 2013-04-22 01:12:00 UTC
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that was for you, a-rubra.
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Is it Christmas already? by
on 2013-04-22 07:32:00 UTC
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This will be useful for lurking! None of that pesky light can shine on me now.
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No, don't lurk! We don't all bite! by
on 2013-04-21 19:08:00 UTC
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As an unlurking day gift, I have a nickname for you!
Hmmm...Rubra, cobra, snake, Sam, fireman, hose, pants, Legolas, trees, Ents, old, slow, tortoise, hare, wig, ponytail, pony, Claire...?
Oh well, Claire it is, whether you're male, female, or anything otherwise! -
Wait what, wig? by
on 2013-04-22 07:36:00 UTC
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Aww, but lurking is so much fun!
ponytail? hose? wait how does snake relate to Sam relate to fireman? and pony to Claire?
Hmm. doodlebug the a-rubra and Claire. Or should that be Claire the doodlebug and a-rubra? -
First plover! (nm) by
on 2013-04-21 18:14:00 UTC
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Where? I want a picture! (nm) by
on 2013-04-22 07:38:00 UTC
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Halloo thar! by
on 2013-04-21 17:21:00 UTC
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Don't lurk! Come into the light!
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Nooooo by
on 2013-04-22 07:41:00 UTC
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The light, it blinds!
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Here, have a baseball cap. by
on 2013-04-23 05:03:00 UTC
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It will shield your sensitive eyes while allowing you to venture into the light properly! If things get really bad I'll find you an umbrella a la Order of the Stick monster, so you can walk around in complete shadow.
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But the light is scary! by
on 2013-04-23 06:26:00 UTC
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It's so bright and light.
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Order of the Stick is a Tabletop RPG webcomic. by
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And the Monster in the Dark looks like this.
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It sums up the monster in the best way.
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Hello! by
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I'm more or less some idiot, but here, have a thing!
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Things are very useful by
on 2013-04-22 07:42:00 UTC
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On behalf of my thing collection, I thank you!
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Gasp! Two newbies! by
on 2013-04-21 14:26:00 UTC
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Well, if you're going to go back to lurking, take an invisibility cloak so you remain undetected.
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a gift? for me? by
on 2013-04-21 14:44:00 UTC
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An invisibility cloak just for lurking, how fun! I suppose that works better than hiding in a corner while being very quiet.
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A couple of new Interludes. by
on 2013-04-21 21:59:00 UTC
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The first one is set immediately after Skeet and Amelia's first mission, as they try to work out what to do with all the minis they brought back with them.
The second involves them receiving a very different kind of mini, and guest stars Durotar and Kur'nak (thanks again Phobos, for letting me borrow them). -
Terri Ryan (DOGA Archivist) reviews. by
on 2013-04-23 09:55:00 UTC
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The Mini-Mogget Adoption Agency
As a spoiler for the review: she's also received a note from Agent Colt of Building Maintenance...
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Reply to Agent Colt by
on 2013-04-24 00:50:00 UTC
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I think what's happened here is just a misunderstanding.
I would never do such a thing (and in fact didn't). I can only assume that that piece of writing is just a highly meta piece of fanfic, most likely written and distributed by someone that's out to get me. Possibly Amy. Seriously, if you could check it with a CAD I'm sure it would show that I was OOC. Clearly it should have carried the usual disclaimer of 'all characters and events portrayed are fictional, and any resemblance to persons living or dead, or actual events, is entirely coincidental'.
Anyway I've inspected all of the walls here, and they're fine, they're all fine. So there's no reason whatsoever for you to come down and look for yourself, it'd just be a waste of your time. Honest.
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/Dies laughing by
on 2013-04-23 21:49:00 UTC
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What really got to me in this was the creation of concrit because it's astoundingly true. Poor Skeet.
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Re: Interludes by
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These were both fun to read! In "Adoption," I like that you keep the mini-Moggets an active presence throughout the entire story. It's also good that you gave both agents a reaction to the situation, and kept that characterization going throughout the entire story.
In "Delivery," I like how the foods being eaten for breakfast at the beginning reappear at the end to show the agents that the Irish Samuri is a mini. It makes for some efficient bookend details around the start and finish. Skeet's complete turnaround with Kur'nak upon seeing the AC/DC shirt was funny, too.
SPaG parade!
The Mini-Mogget Adoption Agency
"'. . . it’s your job to keep these guys out of my way while I move this sofa, alright?'" ("all right")
Delivery of a Mini-Boarder
"'Hey, don’t worry about, big guy, maybe next time yeah?'" ("it" after "about"/comma after "time")
"'Go on, Kun’nak, you know which one it is.'" (It's funny becuase a story in which a mini-Wrathguard is a character has produced a mini-Wrathguard itself.)
"Kun’ark passed Skeet a box . . ." (Two mini-Wrathguards. Kun'ark actually shows up in at least a few places, so be sure to double-check them all.)
"'sign here please.'" (capital "s" in "sign"/comma after "here")
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I'm glad you liked them both. by
on 2013-04-23 22:07:00 UTC
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The mini-Moggets were good fun to write, I definitely plan on doing more with them. I get the feeling that Skeet is going to find himself lacking in bacon fairly soon.
I hadn't really thought about how the breakfast stuff in 'Delivery' bookended the story, that was just a lucky accident.
And thanks for pointing those errors out (creating a mini-Wrathguard in a story which already featured a mini-Wrathguard was probably the most embarrassing one). I think I've got them all fixed now, with the exception of the 'alrights' - I know it's not technically correct English, but I consider it acceptable in dialogue. -
So... adorable!! ^.^ That is all. (nm) by
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Concrit! by
on 2013-04-22 04:00:00 UTC
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Just got through reading these, and I think the first is my favorite. I thought the part about sawing through the concrit, and having it spit out little broken-down chunks of actual constructive criticism, was very clever, and then you went and added a reference to breaking the fourth wall, which made me laugh out loud. I also liked the "Warning, this is not a drill" gag. Well done!
I hope Kur'nak does get to come back and hang out with Skeet sometime. Probably do him good, and I'm sure the conversation would be interesting to read. *g*
And now some nitpicks. I spotted a typo in the first interlude:
"Skeet had never managed to get the hand of navigating HQ" - should be "hang."
And some awkward wording in the second:
"it was more just that she could practically feel her arteries hardening just from" - you probably only need the second one of those.
Also, I think "mini" should be capitalized in both titles.
Also also, a thought: there was a thing a while back about how it would be a good idea for FicPsych to have therapy animals. I don't know if it ever went anywhere (it wasn't my idea), but I'm wondering, how intelligent are the mini-Moggets, and are there one or two who might be amenable to being attached to the department? I figure you can't go too wrong with effectively immortal fluffy white kitties. {= )
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Thanks! by
on 2013-04-23 23:51:00 UTC
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Glad you enjoyed it. I'm not quite sure where the idea of the little chunks of concrit came from, but once I'd had it, it just seemed to make perfect sense. And I think that those 'Not a Drill' labels could be really useful - when you think about it, most things in life aren't drills. :)
I hope Kur'nak gets to hang out with Skeet again too - he was really fun to write. And good practise for me too, I think. That was actually the first time I've written someone else's character in a while.
Thanks for pointing out those errors, I believe that I've fixed them now.
I vaguely recall that idea about FicPsych using animals for therapy, although I can't find any trace of it at the minute. In the Abhorsen books, Mogget is a very intelligent and powerful magical creature, so mini-Moggets should be intelligent enough to understand anything someone says to them. Of course, they are still cats, so whether they actually listen or not will probably depend on how much bacon/salmon they're being offered at the time.
I'm sure that there would be a few of them that would be happy working over in FicPsych... in fact, that might fit in quite well with another Interlude that I've got planned. If I remember rightly, you have ownership of most of the FicPsych personnel - is there any Nurse in particular that you think would be part of this project, and would I be able to borrow them for a brief appearance? -
Sure! by
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Here's the department's original response to the idea. Looks like Nurse Immac was put in charge. She's free to use anyway, so have at it.
I don't know anything about Abhorsen, so I'll leave the selection of minis to you. It would be nice if the names aren't too unpronounceable, though. {= )
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Cool by
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Thanks for the link, I'm not sure that I'd have found it myself - obviously wasn't using the right search terms.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more mini-Moggets seem like a good choice for helping out FicPsyche. Each one has a miniature copy of one of the necromantic Bells (one of the main magic systems in Abhorsenverse) on its collar, and while they're far less powerful than the full size ones, they still should have a range of abilities that could be useful in FicPsych: sending people to sleep, silencing screams, or erasing memories. -
D'aw. by
on 2013-04-22 01:13:00 UTC
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Feels as if that fourth-wall breaking chainsaw managed to cause some dimensional bleeding between the Board and HQ.
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Heh heh heh... by
on 2013-04-22 00:23:00 UTC
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Yeah...that mini boarder is totally not my creation...nope...
Nice interludes, though with the amount of interference coming from the board into HQ recently, things might be getting interesting soon. On second thought, when is HQ ever uninteresting? -
Uh oh. by
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The Board is leaking through into PPC HQ! The last time this happened, we lost two Department Heads and the DIO! MAAASSSS PAAAANNIIIIC! (blasts airhorn)
Actually... it might not be that bad this time. One mini isn't going to do that much. Keep an eye on him, though. If he starts exhibiting knowledge of the Boarders, contain him before he leaks others of his kind into Headquarters.
Oh, and I read your mission to the Old Kingdom continuum after I looked through the first interlude, and have a mini of my own to give you. (passes the mini "Muphry's Law" to the Irish Samurai) You might want to fix that.
In the interim, I imagine the mini looks a bit like this:
Edward Murphy. By the way, do you have any idea how to make images smaller? Any bigger than that and it'd be too big. -
Aaactually... (Plus HTML tips!) by
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Muphry's Law is an actual thing. Better re-check your post in case it struck. ^~
As for image sizing, you'd want to do something like img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/EdwardMurphyJr.jpg" width="200"/, which yields:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/EdwardMurphy_Jr.jpg" width="200">
In this case, 200 pixels wide. You can also specify the height if you want to, but it's not strictly necessary, and it will automatically scale correctly if you only use one or the other.
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(Edward Murphy-mini pops out of causal existence) by
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I wasn't aware of that. Now there never was an Edward Murphy mini. What mini? Where? It had a mustache, you claim? How ludicrous? If it doesn't exist, it can't have facial hair!
This post is going in my ever-growing list of "this is how to use the Board" saved messages. Thanks for the tip! -
But his moustache lives on! by
on 2013-04-24 00:21:00 UTC
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Think about it, if the Cheshire Cat's grin can exist independently of the cat itself, then it's perfectly possible for a disembodied mini-moustache to exist.
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A thing about minis by
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Oh, if only the Percy Jackson minis were mini Minotaurs. If they were, this song would be that much more awesome: http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=uVTfszppJl8
So how about it guys? Are minis allergic to Tartar sauce? Can mini Minotaurs possibly become a thing?
(Actually I wanted Percy Jackson minis to be hydras, with little bibs that had their name on it and a new head for each time the name was used. Alas, mini harpies were chosen first. -
The link is broken. by
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I suppose some minis might be averse to certain condiments, yes, but once a mini has been used in a story, it can only be changed if given numerous unassailable reasons why it shouldn't be that form. I know, it disappointed me, too. There are a few continua I'd like to see minis changed in.
Those hypothetical hydra heads would hastily become hard to handle. (dodges tomatoes) But seriously, some spellings (Zues comes to mind) would quickly have so many heads that they wouldn't be able to move, or see in front of itself, or... well, I'll show you what Rich Burlew has to say on the subject.
Maybe if we find another continuum where a minotaur plays a notable role, mini-minotaurs could become a thing, but mini-hydras... would need to be revised. -
Oops. by
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Let's try this instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTfszppJl8
Yeah, it made me a little disappointed to see the mini's form was permanent for some worlds too, but that's the way it is. My mini Minotaur wish was more along the lines of, "Man, this song is hilarious as it is, but if we had mini minotaurs in the PPC, it would be the funniest thing I have seen in a long time." I don't actually think they are necessary, just funny.
Oh man, Order of the Stick, I have not read that in ages. Sheesh, a lot has happened since I last read it, now I have to catch up. I remembered this comic when I came up with the idea, and thought it could be played hilariously in some cases. I would think the mini would find some way to survive, if only because some trace glitter runs through their system. Oh well, alas it will never come to be. Nor do I think it should.
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IRL Stat Upgrade: +100 to INT & WIS by
on 2013-04-22 00:56:00 UTC
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Hey, look at what came in the mail yesterday:
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Whoohoo! (nm) by
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Congratulations! by
on 2013-04-24 00:27:00 UTC
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*lights off 'splosions* yay Pretzel!
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Cool! (nm) by
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Oooooh, congratulations! (nm) by
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Wow! by
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Congrats! Well done indeed!
*throws confetti* *waits for the Supernatural fandom joke*
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Aaaah! :D by
on 2013-04-22 11:34:00 UTC
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Actually, the funny thing is, I barely know you at all yet (which is definitely a pity!) However, now I will love you forever :)
Absolutely AMAZING gif (how do you put them in? Wait, I don't even have gifs, never mind). Is it just me, or is Dean (or I suppose I should be calling him Jensen here) smiling?
...and I don't think I'm ever going to get over Misha's face here, because...just because. No explanation necessary XD
So...hi! I'm DawnFire. You like Supernatural, I see...?
(Why have we never had a proper conversation and I only really know you from your writing?? This is ridiculous.)
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Okay, so, a gif's like a normal image-- --no changing stuff. And yes, Jensen definitely breaks right there.
I do indeed like Supernatural, and write fic for it as well. I just finished a gen 30Kish alt!Purgatory fic (Insert Shameless self-plug here) and am active mostly over on Tumblr. -
Well, cool, now I know how to insert an image :) by
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Heh. I don't blame him.
Ooh, fun! I will check out the self-plug (and laugh hysterically if I've already read it).
Hm...not sure if I've seen it before or not. I don't *think* I have, but it's always possible...
As for me, I...have actually never written fic for Supernatural up until the Blackout Interlude. I've read a lot, though, and seen every episode, so...well, what I'm writing doesn't look too OOC to me, so I guess I must have picked some things up. Meg is really hard to describe, though. I mean, her face does things, and so does her voice, and I can write dialogue for her (I think) but I can never seem to describe her properly. She's probably doing it on purpose, isn't she...
Ooh, Tumblr. Tumblr's fun. I hang out there a lot, even if my own Tumblr isn't so active besides the occasional reblog.
(Why am I entering so many new fandoms at the same time? Well, I say 'so many'. Technically, it's the PPC, Supernatural, and the Avengers. I may be insane...)
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Awesomesauce by
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Hey, I'm always up for teaching basic HTML stuff.
(Yes, characters can be hard to pin down sometimes; Sam still give me fits occasionally)
Tumblr is definitely fun. Well, as long as you stay out of the fandom wank and ship wars.
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I suppose that's my cue to ask for more HTML help... by
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...but I can't actually think of anything right now.
(Try reading a lot of fanfic, I think it helps. Well, depending on how good the characterization is, of course. I think I'd be having better luck with Meg if she showed up more on the show, or if I read more fic with her in it...oh well.)
I have been fortunate enough not to really run into those, so I'm having fun :)
((Agreed.))
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Eh, when you think of it... by
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...feel free to ask.
(I do read quite a bit of fanfic, and roleplay as well; I'm slowly but surely working on my Sam voice.)
Same here; I usually tend to fall into the calmer waters of a fandom rather than the rapids that exist. -
Will do! by
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(Best of luck! I'm sort of...just hoping my Meg voice improves, seeing as I'm only really writing her for the Blackout Interlude. And I'm really hoping my Nick Fury voice improves, since he's going to be around for the entire OFU...although, technically, I can just get Karen to write him...hm.)
Eh, the calmer waters are generally more fun. Also, it probably helps that I tend to ship practically everything as long as it doesn't break my brain, and have even been known to both ship people and love them as just really close friends (cases in point: Spock and Kirk, Dean and Cas, a bunch more Star Trek characters, and we'll stop there.)
But see, the calmer waters tend to have a lot more jokes than the rapids. So they're more fun and less stressful.
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Shiny. by
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(Good luck with that!)
Oh, I'm right there with you on the shipping thing. I really only have a few outright notps, but other than that, I'm pretty chill.
I love the calmer waters, and the calmer waters love me. -
Shiny? Where? by
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(Thanks!)
Ooh, 'notps'. I like that :) May use it.
I'm seriously willing to ship people with almost anyone. Even if the ships overlap. I do seem to be feeling a little more strongly about Destiel recently, though, if my reactions to the Megstiel romance in the last episode were any indication. Not that I don't like Meg, but...I don't know, it felt strange. Then again, Destiel is pretty similar to K/S (in TOS, that is) in terms of what's actually in the canon...
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Many great congratulations indeed! (nm) by
on 2013-04-22 04:53:00 UTC
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Felicitations! by
on 2013-04-22 04:41:00 UTC
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Here's to doing awesome things with your life and stuff. /doffs imaginary deerstalker
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Hoorah for you! by
on 2013-04-22 03:21:00 UTC
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*throws much confetti and offers many cookies*
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Congratulations! (nm) by
on 2013-04-22 02:45:00 UTC
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Conga Rats! by
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Well done, most bendy of bread-based snack foods. Now, take some well deserved time to celebrate! Use that stat boost well.
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Thanks! by
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I'll definitely be celebrating soon.
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Yet another Blackout interlude! by
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In which we discover what happened to Sergio and Nikki before and after meeting the Doctor.
http://rc1587.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/double-birtdays-are-not-cool/
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Very interesting! by
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Bulletproof Angels. Run for your lives!
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...mostly because I hadn't placed down a timeline of events when I was editing your piece but:
the timestamp for the warning and the message for the Doctor should be either 3 April or 4 April 2013, and I'm leaning more towards 4 April. The blackout has already gone through 2013 HST for two days; it may not seem as long to Sergio and Nikki because of time distortions, but it has been long for others. -
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Fixing that up.
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Ohhh. by
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I'm kinda curious now, how /will/ Sergio and Nikki wind up not being PPC in a year?
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Wow. You've really set up an interesting scenario here. I'm going to be watching curiously to find out how you cause Sergio and Nikki to disappear. (If they even do. You didn't show them absolutely confirming that they weren't around in 2013; they just didn't see any sign of themselves. *fingers crossed*)
My favorite scene of all was when the blackout first hit, and in the hallway, agents are starting to peek out of their RCs with different light sources. It's a minor moment, but to me, it's a great way of showing how HQ united over this, and how different agents from different backgrounds have their own ways of dealing with problems. -
Which Weeping Angel was that? by
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The first one was detained in the part of HQ that intersected with the Harry Potter continuum, the second was captured by the Captain Dandy, and it couldn't have been the third because that one was subsumed by Slorp soon after it was first encountered. I would have asked if this was a fourth angel, and then I saw that bit about Sergio's gun being designed to take out armored vehicles, so I'm pretty sure a Weeping Angel could survive two grenades to the face.
This was a good interlude! Poor Corolla, though. She stays behind to feel safer, and then gets caught in another time-shift and has to sit alone in the dark for three hours. -
Could've been the second one? by
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Maybe, nursing its wounds (if it had any), it absconded to the mirrored hallway and then... yeah.
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I catually was thinking the third one. by
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It barely got any screentime before being absorbed by Slorp, so I thought it could be that it wasn't capable of putting up much of a resistence as it was already wounded.
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Both can work, I suppose. by
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I mean, you're welcome to run with either Angel (though I wouldn't recommend literally doing that).
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... And I shouldn't post while multitasking. by
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It messes up my spelling badly.
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Makes sense. by
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That would explain how one Flower was able to bring it down. It was already hurt, and the disruption of its reproductive processes was just the last straw. I'm tempted to put the time-paths of the three individual Weeping Angels on their page, but that seems a little much.
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What about... by
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Putting an overall timeline on the Blackout page? That would fit.
(I am in no way suggesting this because I'm now thinking about writing an interlude, too. Definitely not one about FicPsych, most of whom remember the last time the power went out and would Not Be Happy. Nope.)
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We should see how many interludes there are before we do. by
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This is my "internal timeline consistency" bug talking again, but I don't like putting up works-in-progress. Parts of me say that it would help keep future writing fit into the established time scale, but parts of me say it would be a bother putting something up that we've not seen the full extent of yet, because we'd have to rearrange everything if it suddenly went sideways, so to speak.
Oh, yeah, most of your characters were around during the Black Cats' invasion, and the shields went down before that, too, when the Cats sapped DoDAEG's power supply. I hadn't even thought about how veteran agents might be treating the Blackout.
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I'm thinking of writing up a Blackout piece too by
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Probably along the lines of Skeet and Amelia fortifying their RC against invasion (neither of them were around for the previous invasions, but I figure Skeet would have heard about them), and offering sanctuary to anyone that happens to wander past.
As well as sending out the occasional scouting party to see if they can work out what's going on.
If anyone has any agents that they're not planning on writing anything for, but want them to have been around for the Blackout, let me know, and I can probably include them in this. Otherwise I'll just fill it out with some of the free-to-use characters, and maybe use it as a first appearance for some more of my own characters. -
Oh yeah, that too. by
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I was thinking of the power outage prior to the macrovirus epidemic and Sue invasion in 2008, but yeah, a fair number were around in 2006, too. Power outages do tend to presage bad things. {= P
Re. timeline, maybe just a rough outline, then? For instance, knowing how long the power was out would be of particular use to me, and that isn't likely to go sideways, as you put it. I don't plan to include any interactions outside of FicPsych, though, so I don't need the details of who all was running around where at what time (unless you or someone else wants to send someone my way).
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Speaking of the 2008 Invasion... by
on 2013-04-25 15:53:00 UTC
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I tried to read its Google Docs pages, but they glitched up or were set to a private view or something, because they wouldn't let me in even when I logged onto my Google Account. It just redirected me to one of those "you do not have access" pages.
It's kind of an important event, so I'm pretty sure people other than me would like to read it in the future as well, but I can't get any text to display, and I don't know Google Docs well enough to work around it. Can you do something to free up the pages for anyone to see? -
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I don't have direct control over those documents, but I've already offered to help the one who does to get them back up and running in a new, more stable location. The trouble is, I have about a hundred other things competing for my attention and I am a terrible, terrible procrastinator, so I'm not sure when that will actually happen. Rest assured that it will eventually, though. It's important to me, too.
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Re: Funny you should ask. by
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Well, since I know next to nothing about Google Docs, compared to me, practically everyone has magic power over them. I see people making docs that only about a handful of people can look at and just blink in confusion. It's probably super-easy one you know how to do it, though.
For now, I'm just content that somebody's working on the problem. It's better than what I thought might have been going on, which was that the person who had control over the docs was no longer active and thus the people who could view it now were the only ones. Then again, I suppose one of those people could just copy-paste the text into a new site if that happened. -
GDocs by
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Basically, a Google Document is just like a Word or Open Office document, except it's on the Internet instead of your hard drive. There are two basic states, published and unpublished, and various privacy settings for viewing and editing, which are set by the owner. Being able to view a document and make changes at the same time as a cowriter anywhere in the world is its greatest asset, not to mention fun to watch while it's happening. {= )
Anyway, what happened to the Invasion stuff is that somehow they all got set to private, so that you'd have to get the owner to expressly allow your account to view them (oh, and you'd need a Google Drive account). Normally, published documents are made public, so that anyone with the link can see them. Stuff like this is why I personally prefer to host my finished stories on a regular website, though.
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GDocs tips! by
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Once you open up your Google Drive (like Microsoft Office but online and Google-y), just create a document and start writing stuff.
Your docs are all private by default but you can change the settings with the little blue "Share" button on the top right. From there, you can choose to share the doc with very specific people (giving them edit/comment powers), make it semi-public by only allowing those with a link to access the doc (usually just view/comment powers), or make it open to the general public. The original owner also has control over who can comment and edit the doc, no matter what the privacy setting is.
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Ninja'd! by
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Your information is a bit more specific than mine. Kudos!
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Sneaky, sneaky! (nm) by
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I have it down to three or four days. by
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It starts on 1 April. The power is down for two days before the Doctor shows up, so that's more or less the third day (3 April). The power begins going back on on the 4th of April, but will be pretty shoddy.
The Doctor and Clara show up in FicPsych to be Neuralysed, along with (I presume) the other Canons in the other interludes. -
Okay, thanks. by
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And, derp, I forgot about the neuralyzations. Depending on what kind of story this ends up being, I may or may not cover that in detail, though. I'm still figuring out where this is going. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Collaboration by
on 2013-04-22 20:23:00 UTC
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How does collaborative writing even work? I'm not sure how two people can write one story.
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Google drive is the best. by
on 2013-04-23 01:14:00 UTC
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My Agents have used the help of an intern in some of their sporkings; the intern was written by a friend of mine who occasionally appears on the Board.
The first time around I wrote the story with her looking on and providing snippy dialogue for me to use. The second time I had her write bigger portions of the mission.
I've also collaborated with EileenAlphabet on a mission, in which we mostly wrote entire scenes and put them in one after the other, and then going through the other person's scenes to make sure they're getting our characters right. In that case, it does require more trust of the collaborator's ability to carry the plot where you need it and to get your characters there intact, but it works quite well in the end. -
I've done it three ways. by
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1: The easy way. My probably-longest PPC mission, Woodsprite of the North, was technically a co-write between myself and Selene's author (back when Selene had an author). In practice, however, it was written by me, then sent over to her to edit and make sure I'd not done anything stupid.
#2: The medium way. The first six or so chapters of The Reorganisation were cowritten. We actually wrote a scene at a time - looking at Chapter 1, I can tell you that I probably wrote six of the eight scenes, but the longest two - the very first scene and the conversation between Blue and Imbolc - were written by Vemi, my coauthor at the time. I think we just emailed a Word document back and forth.
#3: The hard way. A handful of my missions, such as The Child of Susan Sto-Helit, or Two Worlds United, were 'true' cowrites. I actually sat down over IM (I think Vemi used AIM, while Constance's author Kaitlyn used MSN) and wrote them line by line, going back and changing things when either of us weren't happy with what the other wrote. You can tell this sort of cowrite by the 'compound conversation' phenomenon - where dialogue consists of one character saying three different things, the other replying to each in order, and so on...
#3.5: The easier hard way. Brown DragonRider of Pern was a three-way cowrite done 'the hard way'. It took years (any idea exactly how long, Neshomeh, if you're reading?), but wasn't done through IM. I actually set up a guestbook on one of my websites specifically for us to write the story in. The basic method was the same, though - line by line, with occasional corrections along the way.
(And for the record, I understand Jay and Acacia used method #3)
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How long? by
on 2013-04-24 15:16:00 UTC
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I... don't remember. *hangs head* It can't have been more than two years, can it? The McCaffrey fanfic ban was lifted in late 2004... when did you finally give up and cap the mission?
Incidentally, it is possible to avoid Compound Conversation Syndrome in cowrites, but it takes quite a bit of restraint and/or editing on the part of the participants, and it's not easy. The temptation to cram in as much dialogue as possible can be pretty strong, especially when everyone is having a good time writing it. {= )
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We started pretty much immediately, didn't we? by
on 2013-04-24 16:03:00 UTC
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Well, I know it was finished by the time I got married, so it can't be more than four years... I'll check later and see if I have the file.
You make a good point about sorting out conversations - it's certainly possible, but I think far easier to plan for in advance than try and fix later. As a general rule, my collaborative pieces were significantly longer than my solo ones - which means there's that much more to reedit, and on a massive scale besides.
Probably the best way of avoiding it would be to have a system for noting that you have something else to say. If, for example, Agent Ahpla was teasing Agent Etab about the latter's infatuation with the canon character Ammag Atled-Nolispe (y'know, for example), and Etab's author wanted to add an 'Anyway, what about you and Atez'ate Ateht?', we'd usually end up with this:
Ahpla: And the look on your face when he walked past was priceless!
Etab: I wouldn't call it priceless. Anyway, what about you and Atez'ate Ateht?
Ahpla: Oh? Then how much would you say it would cost? And what do you mean by that?
&c&c
But what we actually should do is something like this:
Ahpla: And the look on your face when he walked past was priceless!
Etab: I wouldn't call it priceless. [I want to mention Ahpla and Atez'ate Ateht when we get a moment]
Ahpla: Oh? Then how much would you say it would cost? [Then have Etab reply to this and we'll switch topics]
Etab: £5.60. That's minimum wage, right? - anyway, what about you and Atez'ate Ateht?
Ahpla: What do you mean by that?
&c&c
Obviously it leads to longer conversations, but, well, that's what happens when you want to make more stuff. The difficulty crops up when you want to reply to something that was said immediately without breaking the thread of conversation... I'unno about that. Compound Conversation Syndrome is usually what happens on the Board, neh?
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More or less. by
on 2013-04-24 18:03:00 UTC
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I do recall someone starting a thread about the ban being lifted, someone else going "good grief, there's badfic already, look!", and the three of us joining forces to spork it. Pretty sure that was all the same thread. It probably happened in November (when the ban was officially lifted) or December, though, and I'm guessing holidays would've put us off to a bad start.
Actually, wait. I can pin this down, because there's a bit about the Phantom of the Opera movie in the intro, which had not yet come out when I wrote it. It came out January 21 here, so we definitely started writing sometime between November 2004 and January 21, 2005.
(That intro is pretty embarrassing now. >.> )
Agreed, planning out the dialogue ahead of time helps a lot, and the chat in Google Drive makes that easier to do.
Also, prioritizing the likely responses is a good idea, and helps keep things more succinct. To borrow your example, the conversation could go like this instead:
Ahpla: And the look on your face when he walked past was priceless!
Etab: I wouldn't call it priceless. Anyway, what about you and Atez'ate Ateht?
Ahpla: (responding to the more personal/important thing) What about me and Atty?
That's how my conversations usually go in real life, anyway. It's always possible to come back to an earlier point later, if someone remembers and feels like bringing it up again.
Compound conversations can happen in writing because there's no time limit. Slow and thorough is an advantage here; not so much in speech. Dialogue tends to happen rapidly, in as few words as possible, and in groups it can sometimes seem like a competition just to get a word in—waiting for a pause, jumping in at just the right moment and before someone else beats you to it, sometimes talking over them if you're really determined (or just rude). Real-time chat is the same way, again because of the time factor.
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Three years. by
on 2013-04-24 17:38:00 UTC
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My 'last modified date' on the file is February 2008, and I don't usually change things after they're done. So we took around three years to finish a three-way collaborative mission.
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Oh, jeez. {X D by
on 2013-04-24 18:29:00 UTC
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Well, that's right between my guess and yours, so it fits. What were we all so busy with, I wonder?
I've tried looking up your mission plug on the Board to confirm, but I think it doesn't go back quite far enough. Alas.
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^Yeah, this is pretty solid. (nm) by
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Explanations! by
on 2013-04-22 21:05:00 UTC
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It's not that hard, actually. As I partecipated in some collaborations already, I'll tell you how it goes.
Part 1: The physical means, and I think the best one around is Google Drive. With it, not only a single document can be shared real-time within the collaboration team, but you basically need only a Gmail/Google/Youtube account and a computer or tablet with internet access... which doesn't even have to be your own, as the file is hosted on a server like email. And also has a built-in chat to allow the collaborators to work together. (Or start talking about random things and forget about the story. Believe me, it happens)
Part 2: Bouncing off ideas to build the basic plot of the story. No more to be said here, just exchange ideas.
Part 3: The actual writing. Can be done by writing a few lines each (very useful when each collaborator is using his own characters), or take turns writing longer bits. The latter is most useful when dealing with time zone difference, and in that case the comment function is vital: it allows to comment, write down ideas, ask for suggestions about a sentence or scene, and so on.
If you want an example, look at my missions. Interlude #1 was written with the first method, as Astral Void and I managed to get enough time zone overlap to do it. Collaboration #1 and #2 were done with the second one, as the piece was longer and there was lees overlap time with Firemagic.
To bring the point home, I'm Italian, Astral Void is Australian and Firemagic is American. And yet, collaboration was possible. And fun. Collaboration is fun. -
How I find it works for me... by
on 2013-04-22 21:00:00 UTC
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...is that two or more people have editing access to the same Google Drive document, and they open it up at the same time and tag-team, usually writing their characters specifically and switching off on canons, deciding beforehand who wrangles them, or deciding on the fly. (I've mostly done the last.)
For instance, take PPCers Anna and Bobby, who write agents Samuel and Deanna. Anna might start out like this:
Samuel bounced a baseball off the wall of his RC and tried to be uncomfortable. Unfortunately, he clearly wasn't uncomfortable enough, because--
[BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!]
Samuel yelped in shock, took a step backwards, and tripped over the footstool behind him. He toppled to the floor and lay there, moaning.
Then she might switch to the built-in chat in the doc:
A: Your cue, Bobby!
B: 'K!
And Bobby would turn to the doc:
The RC's door opened, and someone laughed. "Hey, Sammy, how're your ears?"
Samuel glowered up at Deanna. "Fine. My back's the one that's hurting."
Deanna grinned and leaned down, offering a hand to her partner. "Ready to hurt your brain too?"
"Never." Samuel accepted Deanna's hand and hauled himself up with her help. "Let's get on with it."
That's just the basic bouncing-two-characters-off-each-other thing, and it gets more complicated once you add a story that you need to work on in conjunction with working with your partner. I can't really describe that process, but the two-character-bouncing is just RP. In a Google Doc.
You don't have to write with a partner if you don't want to, though; you can easily make two agents and bounce them off each other like I did with Samuel and Deanna there.if it looks like i stole those names straight from supernatural it's only because i did
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Fics! by
on 2013-04-22 23:03:00 UTC
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Okay, a couple things here. Strangely, they're both MLP.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3764/mental-colt
I found this one over a year ago, and it hasn't updated since then. Not only is there this weird Casanova dude, I think they changed Ponyville's geography, the Always Neutral Good status of ponies, and there's a fair bit of OOC from the mane cast. Since the author's not looking (and hasn't been for a while), I say we spork it.
Second fic:
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3763/midnight-green
This one is mine. I stopped writing it because a) I ran out of ideas, b) I was fairly certain it was bad anyway, c) there was a distinct lack of reader interest, and d) I'm not sure how well I succeeded on my quest to make a non-Sue self-insert.
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Hijacking with an interesting DW Suefic set. by
on 2013-04-28 08:54:00 UTC
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This is by the infamous creator of the Weeping Angles fic and the Lituriture Adventures of Molly Smith (and that Narnia fic that Specs and Co. MSTd a couple months ago). This one could potentially be a co-op mission between several Agents, each one tackling a different short story (fairly certain all of them have wracked up killworthy charges in the chapter they feature in).
I just reported it because the first Sue's name is River Lilly. I'm offended for both my own penname and River Song's sake. -
I like the co-op idea you had. by
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It would be interesting to see how arranging that would work out. Would it cut to agents in each story during the flow of others' stories? Would it show each story one after the other, each handled by a different team? Or perhaps the agents would team up on the first story, then realize that there was an entire infestation of Sues, and split up after a shared "Oh, CRAP". I like that last one, though it would run into a few problems as the Sue stories keep piling up. Hmm...
If this is something that's going to be done after I get Permission, I call killing the Sue that plants Avengers-universe technology into Jack Harkness and messes with his post-Torchwood continuity. Actually... (scans text) that Jack Harkness might be replaced, not just possessed. Do replaced!Harknesses keep the healing power, or is it a case-by-case basis? Because I don't know how people would go about killing a being with Jack Harkness's massive healing factor. Just... throw him into a sun, I guess. -
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Ok, you may want to claim that Avengers/Torchwood badfic before I do, because a) ouch, and b) Dawn would go insane. Er, more insane. I may have to check it out...
As to killing a Jack Harkness replacement--in the only instance I recall the PPC running into one, they ended up chaining him next to, to...Prometheus, I think. It was Tasmin and Emma who did it, as I recall...this may also be on CJH's wiki page. Not sure. But basically, in the one case that I've seen, replaced!Harknesses do keep the healing power.
On the other hand, if there aren't too many charges, why not recruit him? It could be interesting...
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True, and most of his charges only relate to not being Jack. by
on 2013-04-30 04:28:00 UTC
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I rechecked the badfic (which was actually in the badfic set Lily Winterwood reported a few posts back), and it was the Sue that had the Avengers-verse technology implanted in her, not Captain Jack. Poor phrasing and an out-of-place POV shift made me misread the bit that the extracanonical technology was mentioned in. The Jack Harkness chapter was short, and in bright clashing colors, so I skimmed it instead of properly reading it. I don't think I missed a lot.
That's good, though, because nobody would be able to cut through the skin of replaced!Jack Harkness long enough to get anything out, and having an "arch" reactor (which I imagine would be an arc reactor in the shape of the Gateway Arch) would be especially useful. I can't think of anything good to use it for right now, though, which is strange because possessing massive amounts of free electricity would usually promote lots of ideas.
I couldn't find the mission you mentioned where the first replaced!Jack was encountered, but I'll take your word for it that his replacements would keep the healing factor. If this fic's copy ends up recruited, which he might easily be since he doesn't seem to have any traits, malicious or otherwise, he could make an interesting ESAS agent once he develops a personality. Who better to take down god-mode Sues than a man who is unable to die? -
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on 2013-04-30 09:32:00 UTC
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Here: http://ppc.timescale.nl/02torchwood.html
Also, I remembered wrong; they chained him next to Tantalos. What can I say, I need to brush up on my mythology.
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I checked it out too. by
on 2013-04-30 09:17:00 UTC
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It...was kind of annoying, but didn't really send me into a rage. I'm not surprised you misread it due to poor quality, though; the color changes didn't help either. The Sue was pretty ridiculous, though. And no, you didn't miss much.
True, true. Wait, what's the Gateway Arch? As to electricity...well, you could put a huge entertainment system in your RC, or set up a new department in HQ, or use it as an emergency back-up in case someone hijacks DoDAEG, or maybe DoSAT could do something with it...the ideas are limitless!
Really? Hm. I'll see if I can find you a link. And he would be rather perfect for ESAS, wouldn't he? I hadn't even thought that far, but you're absolutely right.
I wonder what kind of personality he'd develop...I think he'd be a bit more sappy than canon!Jack, since that seems to be most of his characterization in the chapter, but that's just about all I've got. (The Sue also took Ianto's role, which annoyed me. A lot. I don't like her. She basically shoved him to the side and made him into a cardboard cutout, after which she sapped away most of Jack's character. Not good at all.)
Also, see my response to Lily--I think Agent Jack will end up in my Blackout Interlude, once I know a bit more about what sort of personality he'd have. Because, really...this needs to happen.
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It's an American monument. Sorry for the confusion. by
on 2013-04-30 17:05:00 UTC
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It looks like this.
I'm not even sure what it's a monument to, but it's a pretty versatile arch shape, which is why I decided on it as opposed to a thicker, blocker arch shape like
, which would be bulkier and not circulate energy as well. Wait, I just realized that I'm starting to go on about the electrical potential of various shapes. I'll stop now before I start postulating whether a triangle would be more or less efficient than a hexagon.
See, plenty of ideas! When I was typing up the post earlier, the only ideas that came into my sleep-deprived mind were probably the most mundane uses for a miniature arc reactor ever, and I was too embarrassed by them to post them, even now that it's several hours later. They were practically on the "superhero using his shrinking power to clean in hard-to-reach areas" level of mundane. Just why, brain? Where do you go when I want to ask you questions? -
Aaah. *is a fail American* by
on 2013-04-30 18:07:00 UTC
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I mean, in my defense, I've lived most of my life in Canada and Israel respectively, but still.
Ooh, pretty. I like it. And yeah, it would work better as a reactor. (It also looks more like something Tony might design.)
Huh, that's actually rather interesting. I mean, it would probably lead to teasing (in the Avengers-verse, anyway) but it's a neat idea. Or...well, it's practical, anyway.
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...ok, so I may have started writing this. by
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I couldn't help it. It just had to happen. I'm pretty sure it's not going in part 4--it looks more like part 5 to me--but it's happening.
And I'm about to write Agent Luxury for the first time. Oh dear...
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Agent Luxury and Jack Harkness in the same interlude?! by
on 2013-05-02 16:10:00 UTC
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No one will be safe!
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Until very recently... by
on 2013-05-02 16:42:00 UTC
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...I would have been able to tell you that they're only in close proximity for a very brief time. However...that's just been changed.
Also? It's not just Jack Harkness and Luxury. It's Lux, Jack, and Jacques Bonnefoy--a former Jack Harkness replacement.
Tremble all ye masses...
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I was thinking of tackling the Sue Lord fics. by
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My Agents would go into the first one to realise this sue regenerates in Urple or something. I dunno.
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You could co-write. by
on 2013-04-30 16:56:00 UTC
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DawnFire has a sizable amount of Agents to bring in, and she said she's started writing for at least one of the chapters already. Maybe her team and yours would be assigned to the same badfic by the Sunflower Official, and they don't think the Sue merits the team-up until they kill it and it regenerates and switches to the next chapter. Then, they'd split up and try to deal with the Sue's regenerations individually for a while, before meeting back up at the end for disposal. Divide-and-conquer, kind of thing.
I was thinking of getting involved as well, but the whole no-Permission-and-I-keep-not-finishing-writing-my-Permission-piece-what-is-wrong-with-me thing is going to keep me from doing that unless working on this mission doesn't start for a while. I had already been planning on a good way to dispose of the Sue Lord involving the wonky temporal rules of the Timecop continuum, but I suppose it would be just as removed by throwing it into the Eye of Harmony or something if I end up not being able to help out. -
What? --oh. by
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I see the misunderstanding.
While I wouldn't mind cowriting part of this, I actually meant that I wrote a scene for my Blackout Interlude where Agent Jack of ESAS makes an appearance. The mission's still yours, although if you want me to cowrite, I'd probably be willing. Possibly. I'm not sure.
(sizable number of agents. Yes, I suppose I do. They keep on growing, too. I should probably count them out at some point...)
But yeah. So that's what's going on.
...I do rather like Agent Jack, though. He amuses me. And I wrote Luxury for the first time, and I think it came out ok...
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Co-write sounds cool. by
on 2013-04-30 18:18:00 UTC
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That way you have control over Jack's recruitment, and my Agents can see the fulfillment of their Very Bad Idea. :'D
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Ooh, fun. by
on 2013-04-30 18:32:00 UTC
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Can my agents (whoever they may be) sort of stumble in at some point and then stumble out again with their new recruit? They could be there for two or three chapters...or they could be there for the whole thing, I suppose. What do you think?
(This Very Bad Idea is the Sue Lord thing, right?)
Now, who would get this mission? Your agents in this case are Eledhwen and Christianne, right?
Out of my agents...I'm pretty sure Brenda and Charlie don't actually know very much about DW/TW. Edgar does, as does Dawn. Edgar's partner probably doesn't, though.
So...ok, I can't bear to skim through the entire badfic right now. Is it at all a crossover? Because if it is, I'm sending Edgar and Agen____t on this mission. Actually, I might send them anyway--it could always be a misfiled mission. I'm pretty sure I don't have anyone else this would work out well for...except Brenda and Charlie, who don't know the canon. Maybe DW/TW could count as a crossover...?
Yay co-writing! This is going to be fun...
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There's the Avengers bit. by
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I skimmed through the chapters. The majority are Sues going around on basically the same plotline, hence the Sue Lord idea (yes that's the Very Bad Idea). The Sues claim to be different races - Time Lord, Human, half-and-half - but Suvian Regeneration would probably make the Sue Lord, once killed by my Agents, disappear in a flash of urple light and reappear again in the next chapter. Or something.
There's one Gary Stu, and one crossover Sue with the girl getting the "arch reactor" in her chest. You could send your Agents in at that point, stick it out with mine until the end, and then make off with replacement Jack. -
Would you mind if I shared an idea for the mission? by
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What would happen regarding the Gary Stu? Would he be one of the Sue Lord's regenerations, or a second Suvian character entirely? Because if he's not part of the regeneration cycle, what would happen to him in-between chapters? Nah, he's probably just one of the regenerations. It makes more sense that way.
I've been working on a vaguely formatted fic-dimensional idea that says that basically, if an individual Sue is killed, but her influence isn't expunged yet, the badfic defaults to the next state it's in when the Sue is not present, retaining the damage until it can be removed.
Expanding on that with insertion of the Sue Lord idea, the PPC would have accidentally contributed to Suvian natural selection by hunting down and killing the most obvious ones. In most cases, such as in the Pit, this results in slyer and/or less readily obvious Sues, but in undisturbed areas like the Circle, the native Sues use the badfic's shift to points in time where an individual Suvian presence no longer exists to regrow into new forms, not part of the same presence but working for its goals, to be capable of surviving to warp the canon for a longer period of time. Thus, the Sue Lord is created, through time-space distortion and Suvian stubbornness. When a Sue of this breed is captured, killed, or otherwise removed from the events of her story, the massive glitter index would force the creation of a new Sue from the warped Word World, or the corpse of the first if it was available.
Where Time Lord regeneration compounds the memories and experiences of a Time Lord with the new personality to provide new and improved experiences in the future, the Suvian Regeneration would take the parasitic tendencies of Sues to their logical extreme, as the future Suvian incarnations actually feed on the glittery bodies or canonical shambles of their past selves to rebuild another Sue to continue where the last left off.
This is where my Timecop idea would have come in. Since you seem to have planned to write this with DawnFire alone, I suppose I'd have nothing to lose by at least saying my idea here.
In the Timecop continuum, due to wonky time principles and the screenwriters not really knowing how to write a time travel movie, the "you're not allowed to interact with future or alternate versions of yourself" principle that time travel media enjoy is taken to a titanic extreme. When a past self makes physical contact with a future self within the Timecop continuum, both versions melt together in a slimy pile of ooze, which slowly shrinks as the time-displaced matter cancels itself out, and anything that the past self would have done from that point until it becomes its future self is removed from space-time. It's really weird, but that's what the movie claims, and that volatile time-reaction is eventually used to defeat a central antagonist.
I was thinking that if most of the Sue Lord's forms are captured rather than killed, they could be brought out of the continuum and executed in Timecop's, which would not only make for easy cleanup as they delete each other, but it would also make for a semi-poetic death when the Sues that mess with Time and Time Lords are killed by another type of messed-up time paradigm. You'd need to remove the "arch" reactor from the chest of the Torchwood Sue before this happens and somehow keep Jacques Bonnifoy(I like his new name, too) from being removed by reassertion of the timeline, but I think it'd be a pretty decent method of disposal at least, and as for keeping Jacques alive, well, PPC Agents are usually quite good at improvisation. -
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You could join our collaboration if you want. It'd be good mission writing practice.
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Love the Timecop idea (although I think some of the agents may be unable to resist killing the Sues naturally several times--also, how else are they to figure out that she regenerates?--but after that, your agent(s) could mention the Timecop idea, which is then jumped upon :) ). And, like Lily said, Jacques can just be portalled into HQ first--possibly into the Marquis' office, to be joined shortly by several agents. (Of course, since this is a Jack Harkness replacement we're dealing with, those agents arrive to find him flirting, or attempting to flirt, with the Marquis. If it seems to be working, the agents are probably kind of scarred by this.)
Actually, let me rephrase: the Timecop idea sounds *awesome*, Outhra. Join us, won't you? It'll be so much fun...
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I think I will. by
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Well, in order to find out that it is a Sue Lord, I think it would be charged and killed as normal at least once, and the agents wouldn't realize what they were dealing with until after its corpse flashes urple, a new Sue grows out of it, and they're tossed into the next chapter.
Lots of "what just happened"s would be said, and it might take another charging and killing before they're fully aware of what it is. Then somebody would start thinking about Timecop.
Would I be able to use the Floaters I'd been planning on writing for my main mission series in this, or would I need to write (a) new character(s) to use since I'm going to be writing up their bios when asking for my Permission?
I can just see the Jacques-tries-to-flirt-with-the-Marquis scene now. If the Marquis had a face, it probably would make him grimace in irritation at being propositioned by a mammal.
Mister formerly-Harkness, if you are going to insist on engaging in this unsolicited behavior, please put it to use distracting my secretary. I am, in case you did not notice, incredibly busy. -
Use whatever Agents you'd like. by
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It might be better to use one you're going to try to get Permission with, so you and the rest of us can get a handle on how they tick. Floaters are definitely okay for a mission of this sort, since it's got crossovers and slash and Sues.
Just intro us to your Agents in the email and we'll begin. -
It might actually take a bit for me to start. by
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Currently, I'm on week two of that three-week period of time near the end of every semester when teachers pile on all of the assignments they didn't get to earlier. That's why I didn't ever finish that Quotev sporking I said I'd finish the next day during sometime last week.
But I'll compile the agent introductions/profiles and send them to you and DawnFire as soon as I can. I don't want to be holding this project back or anything with my current lack of free time. -
Have I ever told you that you're awesome? by
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Because you are. First Timecop, now this? Wonderful :)
I kind of feel like Edgar or Agen____t might not believe this whole regenerating Sue thing and kill the first one they see. Could be interesting...
That scene is perfect, by the way. ...Who's the secretary? I can't remember...
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Ooh, wonderful! by
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I mean, awful, but wonderful for mission purposes.
Ok, sounds good. Edgar and Agen____t will come in at the 'arch reactor' point, stick it out until the end, and then make off with replacement!Jack, like you said :) Should be fun! And replacement!Jack could probably help out at some point...and therefore ensure his placement in ESAS (or at least foreshadow it)...
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What was your email again? by
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We could probaly continue the discussion there.
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Probably a good idea. by
on 2013-04-30 19:00:00 UTC
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dawnfire360@gmail.com
Talk to you soon!
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Also, given the Blackout... by
on 2013-04-30 04:56:00 UTC
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We had suggested that maybe Jack was there in the mayhem as well. The real Jack, that is - although if the Doctor ran into this potential Agent Jack, there could be some hilarious confusion going down.
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Oh, he's there... by
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...as you'll find out once I finish writing part 4 and post it.
Also, ok, I'm writing this. I don't care who does the mission, or how you recruit him; the mission has happened in the past, and Agent Jack is from ESAS and gets involved somehow. I don't know how yet, and I don't care: it's happening.
Also, forget him and Luxury, what about him and himself? I'm sensing chaos in the offing...
Although, how differently than the real Jack would he act? I mean, if he's a replacement, then...well, what's changed and what stays the same? And does he still have the coat?
So many questions...
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Go for it. by
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If HQ's collapse can bring in a character replacement and an author avatar from a year in the past, why couldn't it bring in a character replacement from a few months in the future? That, and the idea of agent!Jack encountering canon!Jack is great. Maybe canon!Jack was never involved at all, and agent!Jack tells him about the Doctor in HQ... but how would agent!Jack get to the Whoniverse and back? Hmm. Possibilities.
Agent!Jack should probably be renamed. Not only because of the fact that canon!Jack knows about the PPC or because of the filing confusion that it would cause dealing with an Agent Jack Harkness, but because if we're comparing the two Harknesses, I don't think people want to use more exclamation points than necessary. And yes, I think agent!Jack would keep his coat. It is a cool coat. It is also black, which means it could double as his uniform if he attached the ESAS flash patch to it. -
Oh dear, there's a lot of time travel going into this by
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Then again, the first Interlude featured the Doctor. I suppose it's to be expected.
Well, from what I have written, they're definitely both in HQ. (Although, 'how would agent!Jack get to the Whoniverse and back?' Portals, my friend. Once they're restabilized, that is. Or I suppose he could hitch a ride in a TARDIS, but that's a bit trickier to arrange.) They haven't encountered each other yet, but...it'll have to happen at some point, won't it?
I think you're right, he should be renamed. 'Captain Jack Harkness' is a pseudonym anyway; I don't think this character replacement would mind switching it too much. Canon!Jack probably only kept it for ease of filing and so that the Doctor could find him more easily. (Mostly, anyway). And yeah, I can see that confusion...
"Says here we're going on a mission with an Agent Jack Harkness from ESAS."
*partner chokes* "Agent *what*?"
"...Jack Harkness?"
*partner stares* "Jack Harkness works for the PPC? *Captain Jack Harkness*? Since when?"
And, scene! Although, actually, that didn't really turn out to be filing confusion, more like agent confusion. Would he have a partner, I wonder? Anyway, yeah, his name probably should be changed. Although now we face the question...to what?
Somehow, I ended up writing him as wearing 'a black uniform with the flashpatch of a star above a waterlily on the shoulders' (ie, a black uniform, possibly military, with the ESAS flashpatch on both shoulders). Not sure if the coat's there or not.
...wait...actually, I think he would have been recruited wearing what he's wearing in that picture, *including* the coat. Therefore he has a coat; he's just decided to wear a black uniform to fit in at the PPC! The coat is just back in his RC.
(But it's not a black coat--it's navy blue. Just for accuracy...)
(It is most definitely a cool coat, though.)
What on earth would his new name be, though? I don't even know where to start! Any ideas?
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Well, he does become the Face of Boe. by
on 2013-04-30 18:23:00 UTC
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I imagine something with Boe or Boeshane needs to be involved in the name somehow. Boniface? Bonnefoy?
I think Bonnefoy would be funny because France in Hetalia is called Francis Bonnefois, and he's pretty much Jack Harkness, but French. -
...I'm fine with that! by
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Mainly because it strikes me as funny too.
Also Bonnefoy=good faith (as opposed to Malfoy...) I also spent quite a few years learning French, so I like French :) (And France in Hetalia amuses me).
I think we might need a first name, though...otherwise he'd probably end up being nicknamed 'Bonnie'. Well, someone'll probably do that now anyway, but still. (Also, this is probably going to lead to a running gag of 'You're not French!'
'No, I'm not.'
'I mean, you sound American!'
'...not American either...'
'But your name's French!'
'So's Draco Malfoy's.'
'But you really don't sound French! You don't even act French!'
'Look, how about we just take down this Sue, and then I can show you some techniques I learned in the unfortunately brief time I spent in France?'
'...'
'...'
'...are you the love-child of Francis Bonnefois and Agent Luxury?'
'No, I'm a character replacement of Captain Jack Harkness. Now, I believe we have a mission? Or possibly some more discussion of French behavior?')
Ok, that went on for a while...
So we've got ____ Bonnefoy. Or ____ Bonfoy...no, I don't like that spelling much. It doesn't work, and looks like Bombay.
So. Ideas for a first name?
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YES, by
on 2013-04-30 18:51:00 UTC
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For added Frenchness, how about Jacques Bonnefoy?
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on 2013-04-30 18:58:00 UTC
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I like it! (And now, of course, the jokes will include Jacques vs Jack...oh dear. This should be interesting...)
I love this! It's going to be so much fun...
World, meet Jacques Bonnefoy, formerly a replacement of Captain Jack Harkness. No, he's not actually French. No, you don't want to pester him about it unless you feel like being propositioned...
(That's totally why he didn't protest, isn't it?)
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Oh my god. by
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I just had the mental image of Agent Jacques going around asking people "voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir?"
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He would. He would. by
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...that may be the most hilarious mental image ever.
He's the male version of Luxury, isn't he? To some extent, at least?
Speaking of Lux, I get the feeling they get along pretty well. At least, they certainly seemed to in the brief meeting that I wrote...
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Except the Doctor would've picked that up. by
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The TCDA agents and Nikki and Sergio were found because they are temporal spatial anomalies within the PPC. Agent Jack would've been found out.
Alternatively, the Doctor could,be been confused by his presence and simply chosen not to contact him, partly because Jack is from his continuum, and partly because... Well, Jack's connected to his former lives,and would probably open old wounds that he doesn't want to discuss. -
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That I can understand. That is, I don't think the Doctor would willingly seek Jack out if he didn't have to (redundant? Not sure). For the rest...
When does the Doctor do this scan, or whatever he uses to pick up the anomalies? I think I'll try to set most of my Interlude after that, if possible, because Jack (both of him) isn't the only anomaly in HQ...
Unless it's just the Doctor sensing it, in which case we'll have to handwave it as...well, spoilers. Bother. Maybe one of the extra anomalies gets a message from the Doctor, but doesn't respond? Can that fit in?
I think I need to write faster. This whole 'can't spoil a plot point' thing is getting annoying.
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Well... by
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I had the thought that he scanned using the sonic screwdriver. It can scan for lifeforms, so it can probably scan for temporal-spatial anomalies to contact. He then modified a RA to contact those temporal-spatial anomalies.
In the message, there were 2 RCs contacted, but I can always go back and add a third if you want, as long as you give me the number. -
Oh, yeah? Cool. by
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(I really need to reread your interlude).
Hm, classic Doctor. (I can just see him building in that option for the sonic screwdriver...)
RCs, huh? Well, that...actually works out perfectly, surprisingly enough. Just to clarify, the Doctor found the anomalies and then found out where their RCs were? Or did he just send a message to wherever they'd been located? I do hope it's the former...as I said, it really would work out perfectly!
(I shall give you the RC number as soon as I decide what it is. Currently, I don't have a clue.)
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He contacted them via Remote Activator. by
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I'm not one for technical stuff, but I imagine he scanned for anomalies, found their approximate coordinates with the Remote Activator, and then modified said portal thingy to send messages to the location. It just so happens that the TCDA Agents and Nikki and Sergio were in their proper RCs (or at least the TCDA Agents were in their prime counterpart's RC).
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I don't think it would have been all that difficult, really. by
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Since the portal generator that the RA accesses is, according to the wiki, able to home in on specific characters whether or not they're in a canon setting, all the Doctor would need to do would be to scan for them and input their biodata from the sonic screwdriver into the RA, and modify it so that it still contacts the location, but make the function that opens holes in space-time disabled. Then, the message would be able to reach them regardless of their location by the point in HQ where they were when the message was sent.
The consoles would probably pick up the message because they're tuned into the RA's frequency anyway, but instead of portal commands, it would be text.
(I just got an idea that the text display might not have been based on the console contact function, but was instead a version of the console's "Error: non-accessible setting" message hacked by the Doctor to contain his "attention all anomalies" message. It's silly, though, because accessing console communication would be easier and require less hoops of disbelief suspension to jump through.)
It's possible that the Doctor might not even have wanted to send a message to the other displaced canons at all, for various reasons, and Agent Jack might look close enough to canon!Jack Harkness on the scan for the Doctor to just think "Captain Jack's here, too? And who's this Rumbleroar person with him?" and drop the thought to send Eleanor and Christelle and Sergio and Nikki their messages.
Then again, if the Doctor sending a message to the RC of the Agent Jack works out as perfectly as DawnFire says it does, maybe that last paragraph I said can just be discarded in favor of a better story. Not much about the Doctor's methods when in HQ are set any further than they was in the first interlude yet, so there's still room to put new details in the more fluid bits. -
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He's in the hallways being chased by Slorp, after all. In the interlude, the message is from "UNKNOWN [ERROR: INVALID CONSOLE IP]", which means the post system might've picked up that the IP of the RA isn't that of a console's.
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The console communication network is accessible by RA anyway by
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Most of the hacking he'd do would be to make it so that the RA sends text and not a plothole trigger. No console needed, so long as he knows what he's doing within the network, and who am I kidding if I'm saying he wouldn't? He's the Doctor. He could probably hack into a communication network with what he found in an office supply closet. Just wave the sonic screwdriver over the contents and bam! Now this discarded fork is a hyperspace tuning module! This stack of pens is a signal magnification array! So on and so forth.
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Ha, he's the MacGuyver of the Whoniverse. (nm) by
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XD by
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I want to see that. Possibly in a parody, so it can go really overboard, but it would be awesome no matter what.
'You wanted a sonic fork, right? No? How about a spoon? Or, oh, I know! Here, have a sonic spork! You people like sporks, right?'
...why does that sound like Eleven to me? I don't think it was meant to be him...oh well.
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That's all very well and good... by
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...except that I'm not actually talking about Jack. Or Jacques now, I suppose.
I mean, it's him as well, but. Well. He can just duck into whatever RC's nearest (and confuse the agents inside for good measure AH I know what's going on now! Wonderful!) However...the other anomal(ies) I was talking about...well, they're not in their RC. Only, someone else is, and it would be hilarious for that person to get the message and be really confused. Although, I suppose they could end up in their RC for a short time, and then leave just after the Doctor's scanned for anomalies and a minute or so before the message arrives...yes, that could work. Not sure what the Doctor would do with two Jacks, though (nope! Bad brain. I'm pulling you back up here right now. Just because you were writing dialogue for Jacques doesn't mean you have to stay in his mind). Maybe he could just assume it's something about HQ's architecture that's making him scan double? Or maybe he has a line about 'what mess are you in now, Jack?' because he thinks Jack's traveled back in time so as to be in two places in HQ at once...?
Hm. I guess this works out after all.
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Who's not in their RCs? by
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Aside from that I think this could turn out quite well. I suggest you write the bit with the Doctor doing the scans and sending the message, since I didn't cover it.
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I can't tell you because spoilers. by
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Although I suppose I could just put it in an email, if you don't mind having a plot twist revealed. I might also share the Jacques scene I wrote, since we're both coming up with his character and name and suchlike...
Oh, you didn't cover it? In which case, yes, I think I'll do that. And I can definitely arrange for them to be in their RC...it might suspend disbelief a little bit, but...I can arrange it. Alternatively, it could work out quite well, and without too much suspension of disbelief! I like it.
And I think that if you don't mind being minorly spoiled, I will share the plot point in an email. It would make the conversation a lot more doable...
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I don't mind spoilers overmuch. :3
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Awesome. by
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One email, coming right up...
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Well, by
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I thought at first it could be an agent team going in only yo get thrown into the next story/chapter, and the next, and the next. Then I thought what if all the stories were happening at the same time so all these different agents assigned to the Sues go into the same fic...
And then I thought of the Sue Lord idea that was bandied in one of my missions, and wondered if all these girls (and one guy) could all just be the same Suvian presence, in different regenerations. The first time the agents kill her, she regenerates into the next one and travels to wherever the next chapter needs her to be. And we may need backup to kill then Sue Lord and her Jack Harkness replacement. -
I ask again. by
on 2013-04-23 13:06:00 UTC
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Do the two fanfics I mentioned (Mental Colt and my own Midnight Green) need to be sporked?
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Calm down. by
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If nobody asnwered, is probably because nobody read them yet.
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Alright... by
on 2013-04-23 13:44:00 UTC
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I'm just not overfond of not getting responses to what I say.
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You'd be wise to get used to it. by
on 2013-04-23 14:14:00 UTC
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People on the PPC Board will reply to what they want to reply to, when they want to reply and have something to say. Heavens, can you imagine if we all replied to everything as soon as we saw it? 55 Boarders all commenting on every single comment? I think we'd bring the ceiling down.
So no, sometimes no-one will reply to you immediately - or even at all. Other times, people will reply with something tangentially related. Other times, you'll get heaps of on-topic responses. That's pretty much how it works.
But people have seen that you've posted. Many of us have probably taken a look at the text of your post. If someone finds it interesting, they'll reply.
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Dark is Rising Sue! by
on 2013-04-23 04:11:00 UTC
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2182597/1/Watchwoman-of-the-Light
So apparently Will's not the last of the Old Ones after all, and doesn't even have the decency to be surprised about it, there's a copy of the book of Gramarye, and it's set in modern times despite Will being something like fourteen or fifteen. Not to mention that the Suethor basically took the first few chapters of TDiR, summarized them and made a few changes. It angers me! -
Ew. *Flamethrowers.* by
on 2013-04-23 17:03:00 UTC
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And they're summarizing because they didn't get all of the mythology bits, I'm sure. Some of that's pretty much direct (horrible) paraphrase, and even though the SPAG is acceptable, the pacing and diction is most definitely not.
... Stop trying to drag me back into sporkdom, Alia, it won't work! (Not that I wouldn't rather do that than write a paper, but...) -
I know, right? *shudders* by
on 2013-04-24 00:53:00 UTC
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I just read Susan Cooper's book Seaward today, which was absolutely marvelous and beautiful, so I have yet more appreciation for her writing, and, proportionally, an even greater hate for those that would do it wrong.
I didn't intend to, but perhaps I shall. Procrastination is fun! -
I can't afford to procrastinate by
on 2013-04-25 01:20:00 UTC
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Until I finish my thesis. Then I can procrastinate all I want.
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Ah I see. (nm) by
on 2013-04-25 04:18:00 UTC
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Since the original thing was dodged... by
on 2013-04-23 02:04:00 UTC
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Are there any opinions on the two fics I linked?
And she got aaaaallll the Council lines right, and even made some sensible comments....
And then SHE started talking. GAH! -
I see you that and raise you a TOS-calibre Suefic. by
on 2013-04-23 01:10:00 UTC
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http://www.quotev.com/story/2587108/Living-Dead-A-Legolas-Love-story/1/
Fandom: Lord of the Rings
Characters to kill: Alicia Divin and her boyfriend Sean Wrede.
Why they need killing: Hoo boy. Alicia's a tenth walker who died in a car crash on Earth and gets the power of reincarnation and transported to Middle-earth. She beats Legolas at hand to hand combat while in a dress, makes Middle-earthian characters use modern slang (complete with usage of "u" in place of "you"), portrays Boromir as the Designated Misogynistic Bastard, portrays Pippin as more or less a hyperactive six-year-old, and has an Extra Ring of Sueness that apparently was created by Sauron's wife and given to their kid.
Yeah.
Sauron has a wife and kid. Who'd've thunk? Oh, and guess who Sauron's kid is. Yeah. Yeeeeeeeah. -
Classic! by
on 2013-04-24 21:13:00 UTC
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This sounds just like a fic that Jay and Acacia would have tackled back in the day. A tenth walker with an extra Ring, questionable parentage, and "A Legolas Love story"? I don't think we have to guess if she's a Sue! The Misogynist!Boromir and modern slang in Middle Earth is just icing on the radioactive waste cake.
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The Law of Lemmings, Part Two by
on 2013-04-23 23:46:00 UTC
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The Hobbit- Through the Eyes of a Woman
Fandom: An Unexpected Suething
Characters to kill: Non Mela/Cutsey Saynt/Poison Love
Why they need killing: She's the last of theRaxacoricophallapatoriansThraxilurenfrom the planet of Ooh Speshul, she has in-text author's notes in different colours, and she knows details from the bookverse canon yet still chooses to write this tripe.
The Black Child of Mordor
Fandom: /sobbing in a corner
Characters to kill: Selena and her brother Elfor
Why they need killing: Would Legolas honestly fall in love with someone working for the Enemy, no matter how blackmailed? Seriously? Would the Enemy even bother doing something as convoluted as capture a brother-sister pair, keep one of them captive, and force the other to do the dirty work like assassinate the Fellowship - which, by the way, I thought they had orcs and Ringwraiths for.
Sauron's Daughter; Aragorn's Sister
Fandom: MAKE IT STOP
Characters to kill: Aedai (they never stop coming up with dumb names do they?)
Why they need killing: Look at the title.
Sauron's Son
Fandom: I BEG YOU
Characters to kill: Eärendur
Why they need killing: Look, a Stu who's Sauron's kid but joins the Fellowship and everyone trusts him despite being, yaknow, the son of SAURON.
The Second Ruling Ring
Fandom: GIVE ME BLEEPRIN
Characters to kill: Sileveth
Why they need killing: SHE HAS A RING OF SPESHUL THAT'S AS POWERFUL AS THE ONE RING. She makes the characters talk in different colours. There's a random youtube video in the beginning of the first chapter. Oh Glaurunging hell what has the world come to?
ѕαυroɴ'ѕ ɴeхт тαrɢeт
Fandom: MY MIND IS MELTING
Characters to kill: Anneliese Simarillion aka Aistaraina aka (in the summary) Anneliese Felagund. I expect Huinesoron to be all over this one.
Why they need killing: Completely plagiarising the first chapter from the prologue of the films, having a stupid name, using Grelvish (pretty sure the stuff they're saying in there isn't elvish in any case) with *asterisk translations*, and playing with Legolas and Boromir's, er... affections. She also has a sequel to grab more charges from.
And now, for the fic you've all been waiting for:
The Official Unofficial Fanfiction Academy
Fandom: Every fandom (practically)
Why this is so very, very wrong: Okay, so this is probably the first mention of a Mary Sue outside 221Bagel and ThatOne's parody works, and it's in a blatant rip-off of Miss Cam. Why am I not surprised?
As you can tell by the title, the entire story is a bloody paradox. Admittedly the prose isn't as horrendous as some of the others, but it's not exactly OFU-calibre. So... you've got a less than stellar story... about trying to teach people how to write stellar stories.
Like I said, paradox. I wonder if it's within the PPC's jurisdiction. -
A little research... by
on 2013-04-25 15:31:00 UTC
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... reveals that 'TOUFA' has (oh dear Valar) twelve chapters on a different website. Interestingly, on that website she starts off by saying:
*Inspired by You've Got Fan Mail and The Official Fanfiction University Of Middle-earth. But only inspired, not copied.*
Whereas in her comments on the version you linked, we have:
I don't think I'm familiar with the name [Miss Cam], no. I read a fanfiction called You've Got Fanmail which gave me the inspiration.
Er... really? Oh, I see the longer version also features top-of-the-page author's notes starring such characters as prancing Lord Voldemort (beg pardon, 'Voldy')... which, yes, are pretty common. But not usually on stories designed to teach respect for canon.
... wait.
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... okay.
Chapter Four, ie the next chapter after the ones on Quotev, includes what I sense to be her main plot: all the canon characters have a group bet as to who can get the main character ('Rory', which is totally different to her username 'Tori') to lust after him first.
Um.
Right.
Okay, then!
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Someone's pants are on fire. by
on 2013-04-25 16:14:00 UTC
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I wonder if it would be a bit too meta to write an OFU about writing OFUs. Would that be like a teacher accreditation programme, I wonder?
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Sadly... by
on 2013-04-24 20:45:00 UTC
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That's not the first hypocritical OFU I've read. Star Trek Academy is its name. The "best" lines:
"OMYGODQITSREALLYYOUICANTBELIEVEITCANIHAVEYOURAUTHOGRAPHANDCANWEVISITTHEQCONTINUUMSOMETIMEBECAUSE"
Suddenly, SuperSanne's mouth disappeared, leaving her with only two eyes and a nose." (Only two eyes? He should have left her three! Also, CAPSLOCKWITHNOSPACES.)
"Q sweatdropped animestyle, but suddenly remembered why he was visiting the Star Trek obsessed teenager again." (Last I checked, Star Trek wasn't an anime continuum. Also, Q wouldn't sweatdrop even if he was in anime.)
"SuperSanne's entire bedroom was filled with posters, figurines, DVD's and even a Star Trek Voyager computer mouse (A/N: yes, I actually have one of those!)." (In text author's note? Really?)
And that was just the first chapter. -
I've seen two set in in Hetalia. by
on 2013-04-24 20:55:00 UTC
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Both were written after IAHF, and one actually plagiarised the opening chapter of IAHF.
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Ouch. by
on 2013-04-24 21:07:00 UTC
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That must suck. What happened? Did they get reported?
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The really plagiarised one was taken down. by
on 2013-04-24 21:45:00 UTC
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The other one may still be around; it's called the Hetalia Writing Academy.
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*university. (nm) by
on 2013-04-25 01:57:00 UTC
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Sauron's Next Target defies logic by
on 2013-04-24 03:08:00 UTC
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Feanor poured the shards of the Silmarils into his blood. This, of course, meant that the shards of the Silmarils would remain in his bloodline forever and that all the shards would come together in the blood of his last descendant (who, of course, is the super speshul Mary Sue). If Sauron drained the blood from her body he'd get the Silmarils, which only she can bind together. The Silmarils can be used to bring back Morgoth.
There's also Dragon Riders, elves riding Cold Drakes. Mary Sue is "of Dragon Rider descent" too. She even has a necklace that makes her their leader. Theodred gave her a necklace that contained the only Silmaril not in her blood. Guess what else?
Mary Sue is the daughter of Finrod Felagund, whose canonical death in Tol-in-Gaurhoth was just a rumor. He's been living in Middle-earth all this time. Her mother is Amarie, Finrod's canon beloved. Obviously Tolkien didn't know what he was talking about, because she came to Middle-earth and died near Bree, 15 years after giving birth. Mary Sue then wandered off to roam Middle-earth.
The sequel is even worse. Mary Sue's mother was a vampire and Middle-earth is apparently home to Chimeras, who just so happen to hate vampires. Also, she's apparently Queen of the Noldor and Valinor. She gets a letter from her aunt in Valinor, flies off on the back of her Cold Drake, and finds out that her aunt is marrying her off.
Sense this series makes not.
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*hands over ginormous bag of Bleep'n'ms* by
on 2013-04-25 20:55:00 UTC
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What the - no, just, no. Does this mean that Finrod is supposed to be a descendant of his uncle? That family tree is way the heck to complicated already, what with the changes in HoME and all. And the bit with the "shards of the Silmarils"? Gah.
As for the rest - what hS said. That was awesome. I also agree with DawnFire about dragging Dafydd kicking and screaming out of retirement for this one. (Except he's got his kids now. Hmmm.) -
G--hu--wh--bu--gy--bu--[BEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!] by
on 2013-04-25 20:05:00 UTC
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I...there are no words. I just--none. No words. None at all.
Silmarils>/i>? In--in--??!?
And I thought the Avengers badfic I found was bad! But no, now I realize it's just full of stupid and bad English! This on the other hand...
Nope. Still haven't found the words.
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The more I think about it, the less sense it makes. by
on 2013-04-25 20:14:00 UTC
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At least it was just the shards of the Silmarils ... although where Feanor got those shards from before his death-by-Balrog is another question, because I'm positive that none of them were destroyed in canon. One sails the skies on Earendil's boat, one was thrown into a crack in the earth, and one was thrown into the sea. When Feanor died, Morgoth still owned all three of them.
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...Wait, what? by
on 2013-04-25 20:40:00 UTC
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No, not understanding either. It's ok. I think we'd have to be really insane--or logic-impaired Suethors--to understand. Although, yeah, the entire *point* is that they weren't destroyed; Feanor wouldn't let them be destroyed, not even to save the Trees, and they were remarkably difficult to shatter in the first place. Also, one's a star, one's in a fiery chasm, and one's in the sea, like you said. And Morgoth wouldn't shatter them, either.
...I don't think I actually want to understand? I think?
Because, really, the more I think about it the more it puzzles me. And I think I'm going to stop myself here.
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Does this mean we have a non-canon Silmaril on our hands? by
on 2013-04-25 21:10:00 UTC
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Since the canon three were never destroyed, she has chunks of something floating around in there, and if it really is one of the Jewels of the Trees, or whatever their Elven title is, we've got a real problem.
The more I think about it, the more likely it is that this would result in the creation of a Sue-forged fourth Silmaril, albeit one that's busted up and drifting in her blood. Great. Just what we needed. With all of the Extra Rings of Power in the Lord of the Rings badfic, a Suvian Silmaril was only a a matter of time.
If that's true, we're going to need to bring her back to HQ to get those removed. We can't destroy Silmaril shards in-canon; it's been forever since I read the Silmarillion, but I am almost certain that doing so would make Very Bad Things happen. -
If the thing floating in her blood is a Suvian Silmaril... by
on 2013-04-26 00:08:00 UTC
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There's also a Suvian Silmaril in one of her necklaces.
I think that in canon, the Silmarils weren't supposed to be broken until after the end of Dagor Dagorath. Not sure about the Very Bad Things though, my copy of the book is somewhere at home. -
If it behaves like a Silmaril... by
on 2013-04-27 14:18:00 UTC
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Perhaps you can make the Children of Feanor being given a day pass to punish the Sue for crafting another potential source of conflicts. I'm not very sure about the canonness of that, though.
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Waitno. Waitnowhat? by
on 2013-04-25 16:50:00 UTC
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I just saw Lily's note that I expect Huinesoron to be all over this one.
And then I saw your summary of it.
WAIT.
NO.
WHAT.
Now LET IT BE KNOWN, thou who callest thyself Anneliese, who claimeth that Aistaraina be a name fit for Elda - and mark well, that be she Noldo, Sinda or darkest Avar, no true maid of the Quendi would sully her tongue with such a name - LET IT BE KNOWN that by thy misappropriation of the lore of the Elder Days - thy corruption of the light of the most holy and hallowed Silmarilli - yea, and most of all thy claiming of the bloodline of Finrod Lord of Caves, noblest of all the ancient Kings of the Eldar, who ruled with wisdom and nobility beyond not only thy grasp, but indeed thy feeble capacity to comprehend - LET IT BE KNOWN, thou who sulliest the very name of the Eldar, that thou hast brought upon thyself the wrath and the fury of all that thou hast defiled.
Well would it be for thee, thou who deservest no name besides that which has been given to you, the name of Mary-Sue, well would it be for thee if thou wert cast into the Everlasting Dark, there to be both plaything and prey to Morgoth the Bauglir, whose name is cursed forever. Yea, well would it be for thee - for if it be not so, and if thy foul spirit be siezed upon by those whom thou hast offended, thou shalt be thrust beyond even the Void, beyond any light of creation, and there, in the Void Between Universes, shalt thy screams echo forever.
Fear, thou Suvian. Fear the coming of the Eldar.
~Huinesoron
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Like Dawn said, I'm all for Dafydd taking this on. by
on 2013-04-25 20:54:00 UTC
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Considering his backstory and all...
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Oh, look, I found words! by
on 2013-04-25 20:10:00 UTC
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And they are: Yes! Go hS! You said exactly what I was feeling and couldn't get at.
(Ok, so I found someone else's words. So sue me.)
Hm...make a new one up and inaugurate him/her with this fic? Or...bring Dafydd kicking and screaming out of retirement as the PPC begs him to take on one last mission...and then he gets angry enough to do it once he's seen it?
I don't even know. I've had to research Twilight today. Necessary for what I was (and still am) writing, but brain-breaking. And considering I'm looking at a wiki, that's saying something.
Thank you for the lovely rant :) I was grinning rather evilly throughout.
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It's okay! I actually have one! by
on 2013-04-25 20:54:00 UTC
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Suedom, Chapter 24, about halfway down:
However, HQ was running out of recruits, and a few of the veteran agents were still gone. Huinesoron of the Department of Geographical Aberrations hadn't been seen in at least a week, real-time wise, and as Arda was still changing shape about as much as an amoeba, his mission wasn't going well.
If he was even able to carry out his mission at all.
And do you know who Agent Huinesoron is?
Do you know who he is?
In Elder Days beneath the light
Of Gold and Silver burning bright
Ere Ice was dared or kin were slain
Ere freed was Morgoth, Arda's Bane
His mother sailed her Swanship white
His father crafted jewels - but Night
Came over all that fairest land
And blood was spilled upon the sand.
Yet faithful followed Eagle's Shade
To truer lord than Spirit's Flame
And when the ships they stole and burned
He followed Finrod Felagund.
O! Nargothrond! O, gleaming caves!
Your artists skilled, your warriors brave
Your sages wise - all brought to wrack
And ruin 'neath flames of Bragollach.
A few short years the city stood
Hidden from Orcs of hills and wood
But Eagle's Shade had taken flight
Slain in the Sudden-Burning night.
I think this one needs a Nargothronder, don't you? (Although Dafydd might pop in unofficially to scream at her about the Silmarilli)
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Wow. DAT POETRY O.O by
on 2013-04-25 21:33:00 UTC
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Yes, a Nargothronder would be great, and so would Dafydd screaming at her about the Silmarilli.
(Come to think about it, I once found a character replacement of Feanor I'm thinking of recruiting - in the distant future, when I have Permission, of course. I think he'd have something to say about this abuse of his shinies, as well...) -
Why is it that everything you write today... by
on 2013-04-25 21:10:00 UTC
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...makes me grin evilly in excitement?
Seriously.
...never stop, please, it's great.
Agent Huinesoron of DoGA! Once of Nargothrond! This is wonderful XD I'm so pleased you tracked him down.
(Please, please, please have Dafydd going on a rant about Silmarils. That would be so much fun. And so satisfying.)
Actually, this entire mission promises to be very satisfying. I mean, you saw how we were reduced to confusion and wordlessness. It needs to be slain, and by an Elf for preference.
Still grinning...
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Claimed and working on it. (nm) by
on 2013-04-25 21:21:00 UTC
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What will your Agents do about the extra Silmaril(s)? by
on 2013-04-26 05:54:00 UTC
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They can't put them in the canon anywhere, obviously, but if they're brought back to HQ, we could potentially have another Sairalindë situation on our hands. Plus, the blood-Silmaril is in pieces. Should it be reassembled? Could it?
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I look forward to seeing this. by
on 2013-04-26 00:47:00 UTC
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Ah, Agent Huinesoron. And Dafydd showing up to shout about Simarils! I'm excited.
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Silmarils. by
on 2013-04-26 00:47:00 UTC
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/nabs the Simaril before anyone notices
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You might have to give that back. by
on 2013-04-26 09:52:00 UTC
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She uses the word 'Simarillion' pretty often...
Actually I'm imagining a Simaril as being a Treeslight-containing version of a plumbbob from The Sims... possibly if you hold it you end up talking in Simlish. Now that belongs in HQ.
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XD by
on 2013-04-25 21:26:00 UTC
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This fills me with joy.
...I may have been working on the Avengers OFU today. I may also have Thor stuck in my head for some reason (or maybe it's just Tumblr?) which, of course, is rather strange, since I didn't actually write him today.
Anyway, good luck!
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*Passes Bleeprin once more* by
on 2013-04-25 01:19:00 UTC
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Word to the wise: never go pit or circle diving without backup!
... That's not how DNA or bloodlines work... there is no actual transfer of blood... not paternally, at any rate...
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Re: *Passes Bleeprin once more* by
on 2013-04-26 00:11:00 UTC
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I didn't think it would be that bad...
Why are you doing that?
Then again, I'm not much better. I'm trying to figure out how the Oath of Feanor works in relation to that fic. It's not going well. -
Probably because I'm a science major by
on 2013-04-26 00:21:00 UTC
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... Trying to make things make sense is an unfortunate habit of mine.
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This one's kind of worrying... by
on 2013-04-24 01:28:00 UTC
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Handcuffs and Alibis
I just looked at the summary, but the Sue's name is Bryëton Sairalindë Ciryatan. That middle name is familiar... Let's just hope she doesn't have a ring, shall we? -
How does she even know about DNA? by
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Why does Thorin press-gang her into his Company via blackmail, only to order her to contribute nothing to the quest?
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Because **** logic, that's why. *shakes head* Oh, Suefics. (nm) by
on 2013-04-24 02:16:00 UTC
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Oh dear sweet Eru... by
on 2013-04-24 00:47:00 UTC
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I'm busy for a few days, and this is what I come back to? Kill these fics. With extreme prejudice. They never learn, do they?
All of this gratituous progeny of Sauron reminds me of a series I recently read, which also has a son of Sauron in it. HOWEVER, the canon is pretty much left alone, said half-Maia is either off doing other things at the time or a witness to the events. (That said, there's a lot of explicit slash and violence, truly weird pairings and lots of OCs running around.)Here it is.(definitely NSFW) -
Maybe some OFU writers could cowrite killing the OFU badfic. by
on 2013-04-24 00:21:00 UTC
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You could even send your co-ordinators into it, rather than agents, since it's been implied in a few OFUs that most co-ordinators have PPC experience, and they'd be most likely to be outraged at the desecration of their work.
Maybe this is a terrible idea. I don't know. I just like the mental image I'm getting of all of these headmaster/headmistress-looking people portalling in and making puns about education as they blow the roof off of the Sueniveristy. -
Miss Gloria volunteers. by
on 2013-04-24 20:47:00 UTC
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She trusts Miss Maria to run OFAS while she's gone.
Also, I like the word "Sueniversity". -
The Administrator of OFUDisc volunteers too. by
on 2013-04-25 15:10:00 UTC
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He doesn't have all that much to do, anyway. OFUDisc is pretty small.
hS
(Can we do this? Okay, I mean, obviously the best-case is that gingerlee listens to 221Bagel's comments, but if she doesn't, can we do this? Pleeeeeease? ~hS) -
She didn't listen. by
on 2013-04-26 02:42:00 UTC
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"First off, I have a beta reader, and she's pretty awesome.
Secondly, the title is supposed to imply that the entire idea isn't supposed to be taken that seriously, because it's a comedic piece. And it's not JUST on quotev, like I said.
Thirdly, I wouldn't be writing about it if I didn't know what I was writing about.
And as for experiance, honey, I'm not sure you know who your dealing with or writing these comments for. I write this because I enjoy it and I've been on Quotev when it was quizzaz. I''ve been around the fanfiction block, so I know what the hell I'm writing about.
Now, I accept any criticism that anyone can give me, and I've used it to shape my writing which has been going on for many years now. Don't question my integrity or knowledge."
All I have to say is: what integrity? Considering that we've found her out on lotrfanfiction.net and all... -
Interesting point... by
on 2013-04-26 07:48:00 UTC
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... her lotrfanfiction.net version pretty much has one reviewer over and over. No, Chuckles, it's /not/ that popular.
Any objections to my working up a OFU2: Chapter 0 and making a thread to see if we have any other volunteers (and to collect email addresses, and decide which of the three Sueniversitys mentioned we want to go with first...)?
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You could keep us posted on that one. by
on 2013-04-25 16:02:00 UTC
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In the meantime I suggest we tackle one of the numerous Hetalia rip off OFUs out there. (/siiiiiiigh why oh WHY.)
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I'd sign up for that. by
on 2013-04-25 16:27:00 UTC
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I think that getting as many OFU Coordinators as possible involved would be awesome - and not just because I've got plans in that direction down the line myself; it just would be.
You mention here the notion of an OFU about OFUs - how about we combine the two ideas? We could have an episodic (one chapter/episode per Sueniversity) walk-through dissection of the Sueniversity (yeah, I like the word too) - basically like a PPC mission - by the Coordinators who sign up to do it, and claim the whole thing is being filmed for the, er, OFU2 Distance Learning Course.
Then at the end... well, there's a few options. Either we could leave the Sueniversity to its misery, symbolically give it a 'seal of disapproval', or (my favourite option) throw minis at it until it's a smoking pile of rubble.
I think this could work. Hey, don't you have two OFUs at this point? Are they both taking part?
Also, HEY OUT THERE, PPCERS! Any other current or former OFU writers willing to get involved in this? (Also also wik: given that I've just dashed out the above idea in thirty seconds, anyone have a better way to go about it?)
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Also, is it just me, or...? by
on 2013-04-25 20:30:00 UTC
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...is the main character somewhat Sueish by virtue of the fact that she goes immensely against the norm and we haven't been given a reason for her being there yet? And, more importantly: are there no minis?
But yes. Definitely in. Something about this story bugs me. I think it's the occasional bad grammar, the canons being constantly amazed by Rory, and the lack of minis, which practically characterizes an OFU.
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YES. by
on 2013-04-25 20:20:00 UTC
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...she took one of my favorite songs. I'm in.
I mean, I'm in anyway, but I thought I'd better actually check out the fic in question. So now I'm definitely in.
Agent Dawn, Miss Nariel, or both of them would be happy to participate. Actually, Dawn probably has enough on her plate, especially since she's also an Assassin. Nariel, on the other hand, would probably like a break and a chance to see what the PPCing fuss is about, which actually fits perfectly into something that we have planned, so that's wonderful. Nariel volunteers. Or is being volunteered by me, I suppose. You'll have to ask Karen about whether her character would like to join or not, though.
And, why yes, Nariel is an Elf. Also an OFUM graduate, hence the elvenness. I'm sure she'd be just right for the job...or willing to try, at any rate...
PPCing/dissecting it sounds good. And there could always be an alternate ending...but I think it would probably be more satisfying (and more like the PPC) to throw minis at it until it's a smoking pile of rubble, like you said. If it helps...I have mini-Nick Furys. Give them enough firepower and, well...you've got yourself a smoking crater, actually. And with mini-Luggages and mini-Hounds/mini-whatever Hetalia's minis are in the mix...well. It won't stand a chance!
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Approved. by
on 2013-04-25 16:33:00 UTC
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IAHF is a little occupied by an invading Sue force, but I think the Course Coordinators have escaped and are on the run. The Coordinators of MSFBA are up to the challenge as well.
I feel like such a fic intervention might help people realise just how much work goes into writing an OFU, and how there's an even higher expectation of quality for that sort of fic. -
I found a worse Sueniversity to tackle. by
on 2013-04-25 05:42:00 UTC
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8853080/1/Hetalia-Academy-for-Obsessed-Fan-Fiction-Writers-HAOFFW
You see, she claims to be a fan of IAHF... and then she writes that.
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Holy smoke.... by
on 2013-04-27 00:42:00 UTC
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That is... Oh, the horrible, cruel irony of it all.
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The Law of Lemmings: by
on 2013-04-23 22:19:00 UTC
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You think you've read the worst fanfic on the Circle of Lemmings? Search that tag again - you'll find one even worse.
I bring some samplings of the horrors of the LotR (and the DW) section on the Circle.
Stopwatch
Fandom: Doctor Who
Character to kill: Olivia Corey (and possibly her bit character besties).
Why they need killing: She's a bloody Time Lady with the most convoluted reason for existing. Oh, and she's the Doctor's bloody soulmate.
Show Me The Stars (why do many of these have to be labelled with "___ love story"? It's like a giant THIS FIC IS GOING TO SUCK sort of label...)
Fandom: Doctor Who
Character to kill: ~Princess~ Anahita Eldritch (I picked this fic to present because of that name, yes. Can you imagine her looking like Suethulu?) and all her bit players
Why they need killing: Dumb name, rebellious princess-ness, probably going to mess with Eleven and River's relationship to wedge herself in, stealing the Clockwork Droids thing as well as the Cybermen.
Nimrodel - Lord of the Rings the Fellowship of the Ringa
Fandom: LotR
Character to kill: Nimrodel
Why they need killing: Stealing Nimrodel's name, joining the Fellowship, screwing with Aragorn and Arwen's relationship, tossing everyone out of character, stupid amounts of POV shifts.
Last of the Angels
Fandom: LotR
Character to kill: France
Why they need killing: SHE'S THE LAST OF THE ANGELS, SHE CAN SEE THROUGH THE FUTURE, SHE MESSES WITH LINDIR AND LEGOLAS, AND HER NAME IS FRANCE. FRAAAAANCE. JE NE VEUX PAS.
You are my enemy! i can't love you
Fandom: Will this quest to Mount Suedom never end?
Character to kill: Asoon. I kid you not that's her name
Why they need killing: She's an "awaya", which is basically some sort of catgirl. She's the last of her kind (almost) because the Elves have hunted them into near extinction (wtf I thought Elves were friends to all living thingsexcept those that go after their shinies). She joins the Fellowship (I think all of these LotR Sues have) and pretends to hate Legolas even though everyone could have realised from the title (and the summary) that they're going to end up having species-confused children.
Second part with the second haul coming in (there's one in there that you lot really need to see. I mean, really.) -
Okay, I say we sick the mini-Eldritch on her by
on 2013-04-25 01:13:00 UTC
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Lily, have you met Cthulu, the mini I accidentally created the other day? Here, you can have her/him/it to eat the Princess Anahita character.
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Actually... by
on 2013-04-25 18:16:00 UTC
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I was doing some research on the Cthulhu Mythos the other day, and it turns out that Greater Eldritch is a term from another similar continuum that had gotten mixed into my Cthulhu Mythos knowledge somehow. The closest approximation in the Cthulhu Mythos would be the Outer Gods, who are way too powerful to be brought around in mini form. Nyarlathotep alone makes Discord look like a playground bully.
And I call myself a fan! (hangs head in shame)
Petition to change the mini type? I'd have to run it past Lilac Lielac, too, since she's planning putting Cthulu in some of her stories, but since it hasn't been featured and has only been described as yapping and possessing a tail-tentacle, its form should still be malleable.
I recommend Elder Things or Nightgaunts, with preference to Elder Things because they seem more thematically appropriate. -
I assumed that Elder was more specific by
on 2013-04-25 20:33:00 UTC
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But my Lovecraft knowledge only covers four or five stories, so... yeah, I'd say go.
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I talked it over with Lilac Lielac. by
on 2013-04-25 23:47:00 UTC
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The mini is a mini-Nightgaunt. It is now official, as much as a race of minis that hasn't shown up can be.
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You had me at "Suethulu." by
on 2013-04-24 21:20:00 UTC
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Also, "AND HER NAME IS FRANCE. FRAAAAANCE. JE NE VEUX PAS." XD
This reporting of badfics sounds like oodles of fun! -
Try not to report too many. by
on 2013-04-24 21:27:00 UTC
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Our collective sanities may snap at the deluge.
(Unless the Sue in question is extremely interesting in her Canon warping.) -
FrAh, Sues are bad enough without being eldritch as well! (nm) by
on 2013-04-24 21:27:00 UTC
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Continuing reading from Chapter 9 by
on 2013-04-23 19:31:00 UTC
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More OOCness from Arwen. At least the canonicals' attitude towards each other doesn't seem to be affected, but the moment they turn to the Sue.... language goes out to lunch.
Elrond ADOPTS her? ARGH.
Why would Elrond hug anyone? Why would ANYONE in LotR that isn't a hobbit hug anyone?
ARWEN WOULD NEVER SQUEAL
LEGOLAS WOULD NEVER SAY "UM"
Okay... calm yourself, Iago...
Er... at this point, no one knows that Saruman is evil. Canon error!
Next chapter... already this hurts! X|
Resisting the Ring. Another charge. (why am I charging I am not an agent)
"Cute" is not a Westron word. No tienes razon. (Behold my gratuitous Spanish!)
Misspelling... grumble...
(read all the rest previously)
This needs to burn. In fire. That's ON fire. That's been drowning in lava for eight years. Said lava is ALSO on fire.
Don't ask how, never expect me to make any sense. -
*Passes Bleeprin* (nm) by
on 2013-04-25 01:08:00 UTC
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I think Lily wins, guys by
on 2013-04-23 17:05:00 UTC
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Seriously. The circle of lemmings is clearly the lowest common denominator... And that profile is horrible. Horrible, I say!
Sooner or later we're going to need people to specialize in sporking stuff from Quotev that has these horrible things like author and character bios and pictures. -
I love the Circle. (/sarcasm) by
on 2013-04-23 17:11:00 UTC
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Every time I find a badfic I think it's the worst thing I have ever seen, but then I find a fic that's even worse.
If I was the Doctor, the Circle would be the Daleks. -
OH MY GOSH YOU GUYS by
on 2013-04-25 16:04:00 UTC
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Did you notice that if you go to Circle of Lemmings, and you just click on "FanFiction," it's ALL RPF for One Direction and Justin Bieber?
Brb, my brain just ran away. -
Thanks for telling me what tag never to click on. by
on 2013-04-25 17:48:00 UTC
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My sanity is fragile enough as it is without accidentally encountering boy band slash. (shudders)
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Oh, I don't remember seeing slash... by
on 2013-04-25 20:35:00 UTC
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...in my brief scan before I figured out how to get to more specific tags. No, it's all 'so-and-so meets my OC and there's a romance'.
I've also managed to find some idiocy where Jennifer Lawrence is Penny's cousin and ends up briefly living with Leonard (Big Bang Theory). That's trans-dimensional snatching, right? Falls under PPC jurisdiction? Because if so, I'm probably taking it. Or at least adding it to the Unclaimed Badfic list.
WhyisQuotevsobad. WhyisitnamedQuotevinthefirstplace. WhyamIwritinglikethis.
Ugh.
I'm going to go eat some chocolate and pretend it's Bleepolate now, ok? It may also help me get some sparklepire descriptors I was writing earlier out of my head.
Oh, yes, I was writing them. It's quite fun, except for the research and the fact that I'm writing about sparklepires. No big deal.
(Argh, my braiiiin...the Twilight wiki has eaten it...must have Twilight snark--must have Doctor Who episode--)
Ok, I've snapped out of it. I think I'll have that chocolate now.
Toodles!
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There is _always_ worse. by
on 2013-04-23 22:28:00 UTC
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I thought we knew that by now.
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Yes, but by
on 2013-04-23 22:42:00 UTC
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Seriously no one on the Circle seems to have ever heard of the term Mary Sue. Every time I think they've mangled Canon beyond belief, they find some new way to make me sick.
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I went into the Circle now. I am error. by
on 2013-04-24 00:39:00 UTC
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I should not have done. The beginning was a challenge. I said I knew it would be bad. I did not know how much. I made a mistake. I searched for Adventure Time fics. I should not have struck so close to my own heart. Not so soon. So much Marshall Lee. So many new and disgusting types of Mary Sue. So much misplaced punctuation. So much so much so much
my mind
IS GOING
I looked more. It was not all in one place. I searched IsearchedIsearched
and the end
WAS
BRILLIANT
in its devastation
All In One Place They Know They Must They Cannot Go Through So Much Not Knowing It Is A Plague It Is A Disease It Must Be It Cannot Not Be ITCANNOTitcannotITCANNOTitcannot
ThE cIrClE mUsT bE bRoKeN.... SO WE CAN SIIIIIIIIIIINNNGNGNNGNGNNNGNNGN........ -
I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry. by
on 2013-04-25 20:47:00 UTC
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Poor Outhra. *hugs* I, too, know the horrors of the Circle of Lemmings. Beware, and be sure to travel with Lemming Repellent if you feel you must go in. I last used Holy Musical B@man as LP...it worked, but I want through the first seven parts.
(I'm glad you got better, by the way. Also, you should definitely have an agent journal with writing like this; it would be amazing.)
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I studied poetry in college that wasn't this well written (nm) by
on 2013-04-24 21:23:00 UTC
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Now starting a collection for Outhra's therapy by
on 2013-04-24 00:41:00 UTC
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And at last I realise why the Oods wanted the circle broken.
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I may be... better. Maybe. by
on 2013-04-24 01:53:00 UTC
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It was all different now. Still in pieces, but formed by rage, not madness.
All rage at the defiling of what I know. Rage kept in check by the knowledge that there was more like it.
All in one. A drop in the ocean of distortion and blindness shall not blind me when the ocean stands lapping at the shore.
Do not do not do not (slaps self) I refuse to regress!
I stand at the shore and knock. The ocean is not a window, but a door beyond which lies eternal. Eternal what?
Ack, no, stop it.
I'll be back.
(one null later)
There is a surprising amount of sanity that can be regained by listening to five musical genres at once through a thin sheen of chaos. My brain basically forgot about its error message to run around screaming "What is going on?" As it turns out, my brain had only gone into an error state from being assaulted on its less-defended sides by idiocy, and my mind can only freak out in in so many directions before deciding it was going out for the evening.
If it had been full-on insanity, I don't know what would have ended up happening. I probably would have gone berserk or something. Maybe I'm still crazy, and it'll show up when we least expect it. Maybe I was crazy all along. WHO KNOWS?
I stand by what I said, though. The Circle must be broken. I will help you find the worst of the Sues. They are all abominations and must be destroyed.
Oh, wow. I wrote all of that, like, half an hour ago. I'm going to keep all of that up there. The rambling nonsense at the beginning, the self-assured babble in the middle, and the bit at the end about the abominations. I guess there are some benefits to having dozens of tabs open at once after all. I may have just needed time away from the lemmings to readjust, or something. I'm even keeping the title, which I wrote at the very beginning, when I was obviously not better.
I'm agreeing with Crazy Past Me on one point, though: Sweet Eris, are those Sues fit to die.
I went back to one of those fics that drove me temporarily bonkers and started compiling a charge list for it. One of its most common charges: abuse of the exclamation mark. If Terry Pratchett said five exclamation marks was a sign of insanity, what would he say about sixteen? -
Sixteen is right out. by
on 2013-04-24 02:02:00 UTC
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Sixteen is just begging for the Goddess of Grammar to smite thee with her semicolon. Especially if the sentence is much shorter than the punctuation trail.
(Can I say I just really like your writing style based on that? You should have one of your Agents keep a journal in which all of this is recorded. It's glorious.) -
Yeah. by
on 2013-04-23 22:46:00 UTC
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I just searched up "Pokemon" and now I'm practically drowning in potential targets. This is like some kind of horrible fractal that never ends no matter how deep you go...
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At last you understand my pain. by
on 2013-04-24 00:11:00 UTC
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Welcome to the Circle. There is no escape.
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Exterminate! by
on 2013-04-23 21:45:00 UTC
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... which is what we should do to fic from the circle, really.
I figure a lot of this stuff is probably well covered by DMS and department of WTF, but I'd still love to see the trials and tribulations of some agents who kept getting Circle of Lemmings fic. I think they'd be even less sane than the usual PPC agent. -
Well now. by
on 2013-04-23 15:44:00 UTC
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I think I know who I'm going to subject to cave-in and accordion.
The sad part is that it looks like the author COULD write well, but then her character starts talking and it BUUUUURNS -
I was astonished that these are still being written. by
on 2013-04-23 15:28:00 UTC
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And then I saw the address. Whoop dee doo.
I still don't get the whole character introduction thingy. Where would you even get that from? No medium I know does that. So it's not just "never read a book," but more like "never seen any fiction." Wat. -
About the character introduction... by
on 2013-04-23 15:37:00 UTC
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I THINK it's supposed to be like those opening pages in manga tankobon, where it tells you the current cast.
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That explains it. by
on 2013-04-23 15:56:00 UTC
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Still, not every manga does that, and they also do that because they only come out once in a while... on the other hand, without that introduction part, we couldn't probably tell who's who.
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Buh-buh-wha-- by
on 2013-04-23 09:10:00 UTC
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Take a look at the link: http://www.polyvore.com/prom/set?id=68153573. Apparently, this is Sue's prom dress. Now, I was expecting just a picture of a girl in a fancy dress, but...this...this.
Just, just look at it.
...they've become more creative? I guess?
*goes off for some quality headdesking time*
~DF -
O. M. G. by
on 2013-04-23 09:08:00 UTC
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My computer just loaded the Circle of Lemmings for the very first time! Before this, it wouldn't work on either browser I use!
...wait, why am I happy again?
You have GOT to be kidding me. "I looked like this: [link]"? Oh dear. In fact, I'm going to see myself John Hart's 'oh dear', and raise me AVPM/S/SY Neville's 'oh d-d-d-dear'.
This...could be fun to take on...I mean, Charlie's LO is Pippin, and Boromir is among my favorite characters, and Sauron with a wife...well. Uh.
Yeah.
...also, what's with the title...?
(I don't wanna guess. Make it go away.)
~DF -
I envy your browserlessness by
on 2013-04-23 17:08:00 UTC
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Oh, by the way, my writing group has started using Circle of Lemmings for editing night so that we have to suffer through the worst possible editing experiences in order to form group editing solidarity and to keep us in perspective about editing each other's stuff.
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So the Circle is good for something after all! by
on 2013-04-23 18:56:00 UTC
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Who'd have thunk?
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It's also useful if you want to injure someone's brain by
on 2013-04-23 21:47:00 UTC
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I showed the circle to one of my real life friends: she nearly cried.
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The title? by
on 2013-04-23 15:49:00 UTC
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It's actually an interesting concept... the problem is that it reminds me altogether too much of Chivalry Reborn, a (in my opinion) Human-In-Equestira goodfic.
As in, "human turns out to be descended from superbeings, who'da thought." And CR does it well; and despite being an alicorn, the OC is NOT a sue. He doesn't have instant mastery of anything; I think I got about ten chapters in and he still hadn't done well in magic.
Telekinesis magic. Which I'm pretty sure is the most basic kind in MLP. -
So basically, this one has a lot of the old cliches by
on 2013-04-23 02:06:00 UTC
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Why this same exact formula? It almost sounds like a typical romance novel.
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The Circle of Lemmings is interesting like that. by
on 2013-04-23 02:11:00 UTC
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FFN has aged somewhat away from the classic Sue clichés, because everyone and their mini has read all the parodies and know what clichés to avoid. AO3 is largely full of invite-only, more experienced authors who are less likely to make a travesty of their OCs.
And then you've got the Circle, which seems almost like a terrifying little pocket universe that gives us all a glimpse into what it must've looked like on FFN before Jay and Acacia started writing the TOS, before Miss Cam created OFUM, etc. -
"Everyone and their mini." XD (nm) by
on 2013-04-23 09:04:00 UTC
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Newer fandoms on FFN are still terrifying by
on 2013-04-23 02:51:00 UTC
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Just look at Twilight. I still dug through the Pit of Voles in search of goodfic when the fandom exploded and the badfic gave me nightmares.
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Sometimes, I'm glad I like obscure fandoms by
on 2013-04-23 10:45:00 UTC
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Or at least, obscure to FFN. You know you're in a safe fandom when a character can be loved by almost every fan and not have any character/Sue fics at all.
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(BSODs) by
on 2013-04-23 01:53:00 UTC
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Uuuuuhhh.........
I don't even have Lord of the Rings as one of my fandoms, and that knocked out my disbelief regulators almost immediately. Sweet Eris. I don't even want to click the link, in case it makes me vomit in real life. -
A Ring of Sueness stronger than the One Ring, to boot by
on 2013-04-23 01:51:00 UTC
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Sauron didn't even make the Ring until what, halfway through the Second Age? He turned evil before the First Age even started but his forging the Ring was the last straw for his wife? By the time he forged the Ring, his kid's formative years were over!
Besides, if he had a family before he turned evil, then Sauron was shacking up with another Maiar. Barring Melian, have any of the Maiar ever had kids? Is it even possible for two Maiar to reproduce?
I get the feeling the author doesn't knowanythingmuch about the history of Middle-Earth. -
Since you mentioned Maiar, by
on 2013-04-23 02:27:00 UTC
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I suddenly had the terrifying mental image of Sauron/Gandalf.
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Focus on Sauron, not Gandalf. by
on 2013-04-23 02:48:00 UTC
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It could be funny. Imagine a giant eyeball trying to have sex. It just doesn't work.
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That reminds me of a fic... by
on 2013-04-24 22:00:00 UTC
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That sounds a lot like something that happened in "ITS MY LIFE!", also known as My ImPortal. SFW, oddly. (I don't think you have to ask if it's SFB.)
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...what fic? The fic with the power... by
on 2013-04-25 20:43:00 UTC
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Couldn't resist. Although I certainly hope this fic doesn't have the power of voodoo.
I'm guessing it's a Portal fic? *sigh* I don't think I want to know...I mean, I can probably guess, anyway, so...
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I remember that one. Yes, it is Portal. by
on 2013-04-25 21:20:00 UTC
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The Sue is a sister!Sue for Chell, and somehow manages to get pregnant with Wheatley's baby, despite Wheatley being a robot eyeball. It's a confirmed trollfic, though, so at least we know that the writer didn't make that scene thinking it was a good idea.
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Thoreau by
on 2013-04-23 21:49:00 UTC
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It's even better if you think about the Thoreau essay about observation, which is about being a floating transparent eyeball wandering about the world...
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What did he observe? by
on 2013-04-24 04:59:00 UTC
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I imagine a lot of the observations would be of people fleeing from the giant eyeball that was hovering toward them. Since it's transparent, they wouldn't see it from far away, but once it was close up, they could see how the shapes of objects beyond are distorted through its round form, and there would be a panic. Rumors would spread, tales would be concocted, a local news team would be called out. Local kooks would blame aliens, the FBI, and foreigners, and the people would try and find it to see what weapon could bring it down from its hovering perch, while all the while the eye would sit there, among the multiplying chaos. Watching. Learning.
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Unless... by
on 2013-04-23 02:49:00 UTC
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He was in his original form. But then he'd be inhumanly handsome (gee, remind you of anything) and thus he ate oranges and it was k.
Also, I'm a Disturbed1. Does anyone else think that Old Friend could be an anthem for the DMS? -
Well if Gandalf wasn't in the form of an old man ... by
on 2013-04-23 03:02:00 UTC
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Then they'd both be inhumanly handsome. I think.
Anyone know what forms they originally took? I know Sauron took on a "fair visage" when he called himself Annatar and I'm assuming he also had a fair visage when he was still a Maiar of Aulë. - I've a fandom interpretation of Maia!Gandalf here: by on 2013-04-23 03:48:00 UTC Link to this
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Sir Ian McKellan sure is handsome during the First Age. (nm) by
on 2013-04-24 03:07:00 UTC
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Huh. by
on 2013-04-23 09:12:00 UTC
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That...actually manages to remind me of Gandalf. Well done, artist (whoever you may be!)
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Drool alert! by
on 2013-04-23 04:10:00 UTC
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Maia!Gandalf has better hair than me. Jealous.
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Stupid lines wheee by
on 2013-04-23 01:40:00 UTC
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She.... humped and stormed away? Did she just pull a realdoll out of thin air? (why do I find this hilarious?)
"why da f*ck..." Censorship and slang. Bad author. No tienes razon.
ARGH WEIRD FONTS THEY BURN
RivenDELL, ya twit. Try again.
At least her reaction is reasonable. Points for that, I suppose.
Wait, WHY THE FRICK IS SHE AN ELF?
*facepalm* Noticed too late the language issues.... unless she's unconsciously speaking Westron. I've seen things like that before, they think they're speaking English, but they're actually speaking the language of their surroundings.
"What is Alicia?" Well, I'd say it's an incredibly blatant self-insert.
Arwen giggling. My accordion hates the OOCness. (I want my magic everything tool to be an accordion. I go for ridiculousness)
THE BAD GRAMMAR, IT ALSO BURNS
Instant weapon mastery. No tienes razon.
Bad Legolas-speech. NO. TIENES. RAZON.
ELVES WILL NEVER COUNTDOWN TO "GO," THAT'S TEEN TITANS YA NITBRAIN
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Well... by
on 2013-04-23 01:28:00 UTC
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At least she was like me, and nice enough to ADMIT that her work is bad.
..... wait..... INTEXT WEBLINKS? Charge it!
.... that reminds me, I need to figure out my agent. Should I ever start doing this, that is...
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Agent? Yes? No? by
on 2013-04-23 18:14:00 UTC
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Anyway... three things here.
First: The description of Agent Valon, in the style of the Wiki. Pastebin'd because I don't want to stretch this out.
http://pastebin.com/6ShW883n
Second, two pictures of the agent via Dream Avatar.
Off-duty/sane
On-duty/crazed
Opinions? Should I rewrite this guy?
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Much bio editing has ensued. by
on 2013-04-24 13:10:00 UTC
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouV0di1a__mTOV8jb7Nq0YiNQkoks96lt3oRsU4Wo7g/edit?usp=sharing
Behold Valon's updated bio. He's overall more level-headed now, his profile is more detailed, and he's kept his hat addiction.
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I suppose I should mention by
on 2013-04-24 14:28:00 UTC
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Comments can be added to the doc itself.
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I'm not sure you've been listening. by
on 2013-04-24 15:09:00 UTC
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Several people have mentioned that it's really too early for you to be having this discussion at all, one of them (hS) being a Permission Giver, who you ought to strive not to ignore in matters pertinent to eventual Permission. Well, this makes two of us saying please give it a rest. Willingness to improve is great, but there's no need to get a character nailed down right now, because we're not going to be ready to give you Permission for some time, regardless of what character(s) you use. More importantly, though, you're not doing yourself any favors by continuing to press an issue that you have been asked by multiple people to drop.
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Look: by
on 2013-04-23 22:20:00 UTC
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I'm sorry if this sounds discouraging or otherwise bad, but I'm not exactly the best at wording certain things...
There's a lot of ideas that could work here, but there's also a not of things that people generally do not want around here (torture and so on). You may want to polish things up and remove the things that go against how people see the setting. -
I am. by
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I already edited Valon's bio, and I'm heeding the advice of the other Boarders and reading more missions.
I have read almost all of Laburnum's Redwall missions, TOS, most of THAT series, and the entirety of OFUM. -
Good to know. by
on 2013-04-23 23:11:00 UTC
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As a final thing from me, don't be afraid to ask questions to the rest of the community. They're surprisingly helpful.
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Revisions by
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That second paragraph, and the first sentence of the first, are completely gone. He is now overall more cool-headed, but also slightly irritable. Not a hair-trigger temper, but he can lose his patience.
Not sure what else to do, though. -
In essence, I agree with hS below. by
on 2013-04-23 20:21:00 UTC
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You should probably wait a while before you decide to make a character, as I'm not sure you can save this character. However, don't let this put you off the whole idea.
There are still a few things I like about the character, even if the main basis isn't that good. For example, the hat collecting seems like the sort of thing a PPC agent would do, and the accordion playing could be used for the sort of humour we like, with your Agent driving his partner insane with his playing.
Anyway, while you might want to stop your ideas of making Agents until you get better versed in the world of the PPC, it's not to say that every idea of yours is bad. You just need to get a better feel of the universe you're writing for before you start thinking up the agents.Although, I'm not quite sure how much say I should have in this, seeing as I'm not exactly experienced in the Agent making. -
Remove the "Everyone is his LO" thing. by
on 2013-04-23 19:59:00 UTC
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Or at the very least tone it down, or give him a partner who has no truck with it to balance him out. There's a reason a character with that exact trait is on the Permission Self-Check in the "List what is wrong with this guy" category.
That trait would disrupt missions, usually, and when it doesn't, it would still be more problematic than it's worth to write about. I'm not sure if the following is "the whole point" of the LO system or not, but the Lust Object trait has always been to me more a reason to oppose a particular Sue or to make brief jokes in missions than a core component of a character's personality.
Oh, and changing the bio won't do a whole lot in terms of his individual personality. The bio reflects it, yes, but if you haven't changed how you think about him as a character, he's going to be the same. And again, I stress, work on a partner. Bouncing him off someone who shares similar goals, i.e., Sue-killing, but has a different way of looking at it can help round off the rough edges of both. -
I think it's too early for any of this. by
on 2013-04-23 20:03:00 UTC
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I'm going to repeat my recommendation to read around the PPC. The character doesn't just have minor flaws - the core of his characterisation does not mesh with the PPC. I say, stop thinking about making your own agents completely, and just enjoy reading other people's for now.
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The main things have probably been said, but... by
on 2013-04-23 19:27:00 UTC
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Just thought I'd give you this handy dandy link spammage.
First off, the Wiki page for Permission. It can be pretty helpful in working some things out with Agents, as someone who has been working on agents for at least 3 months, on and off.
Secondly, the Permission Self-Check. I know it's on the Permission page, but I had a hard time finding it anyway. It's good for checking whether you're ready to ask for permission. This is probably because that's what it was made for.
Now, here's the link to a collection of missions, the Original Series and other tidbits. Reading always helps, and seeing other agents in missions is good for brainstorming ideas that work. And if you've read them, eh, no harm in re-reading.
Finally, a picture of a rabbit with a top hat. Because why not? And I know that sometimes people get upset at criticism, good or bad, so I felt a cute picture would be a nice idea.
Good luck in working out ideas for agents, and remember - have fun while you're doing it! All stress and no fun makes the PPC a boring place. -
Ooh. Nice rabbit. (nm) by
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Clarifying a few points. by
on 2013-04-23 19:22:00 UTC
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Having read this description and looked at the pictures, I'm not entirely sure you understand what the PPC is all about.
Torture, and 'taking his frustration out on them personally', is most emphatically not what we do. PPC stories are, er, funny: that's kind of the point. Valon isn't funny: he's scary. Yes, you've added some quirks, but you've added them to a violent psychopath who 'turns off his sense of empathy' and, for bonus points, 'spends a lot of time ogling female Agents and canonicals' - including when he's an empathyless torture-fiend. That is not someone I can see fitting into the PPC.
So: I'd like to recommend you read around the subject more. I note on your intro thread you say you've read Laburnum's missions: I'm aware that they make up a large chunk of our Redwall stuff, but they're really not representative of the PPC as a whole. I see you are (or were) also reading the Original Series, which is good - we try to model our agents off Jay and Acacia, with different characters but the same basic outlook of 'Doing this job, have to have a sense of humour, get angry sometimes but try to stay professional'.
So: read some more missions! Unfortunately I don't appear to share any fandoms with you - well, a couple, but I don't recall any missions set in them - but I can point you at the Killed Badfic list. To get a good feel for what the PPC's like, try avoiding the high-rated/NSFW stuff and reading some of the K+/T material.
For one specific (non-mission, but PPC)recommendation, the Irish Samurai recently posted an interlude to do with Abhorsen: The Mini-Mogget Adoption Agency. I think it gets over the feel of the PPC very well.
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A few things. by
on 2013-04-23 18:50:00 UTC
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One, torture is not allowed. Even for Sues. It's a bad idea. Killing them slowly, maybe, but nobody is supposed to torture. It ticks off the Flowers, because it's Black Cat methodology and also seriously not cool.
Two, you are way too new to start up Permission ideas. I realize this wasn't an official request, but keep it private until you've got more parts of the Agent finalized and the Board gets to know you.
Three, his personality traits seem contradictory. Psychopathic rage and cool tolerance of others, for example. I realize you're still hammering him out, but read the bio beforehand and make sure it looks consistent.
Without that, it's not that bad. The hat obsession could potentially lead to a few fun scenes, and the physical description seems all right. You could really enhance him by bringing along a partner who opposes him in terms of knowledge type and reactions to situations, especially since doing so would help justify the "knows about everything" bit if you give him, say, a very ditzy partner. The partner dynamic is why you see so many passionate/stoic pairs or rageful/joyful pairs. Odd couples are fun and help with characterization. -
Woah, dear. by
on 2013-04-23 18:43:00 UTC
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You've created about three threads in a row. That's a little much especially since your introduction post is still on the front page. That's also an indicator that it is a bit too early for you to be discussing Agents with the Board.
If you really need advice, I suggest asking someone via email or the IRC.
That being said, is it necessary to have two different personalities for an Agent dependant on what he's doing? Suggesting that an Agent is only sane off duty is underestimating HQ's ability to turn someone insane. And last time I checked, Sues also had shoddy split personalities like that.
Take a step back, relax, and just participate in the topics already on the Board. We're in no rush. -
Alright.... by
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Main reason for the multiple threads: This place is actually pretty slow. I find things to post, but the rest of the place progresses so slowly that I almost have to make a new thread for the new idea, otherwise I'm just being a non sequitur.
Which isn't that unusual for me, but still.
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You get used to it. by
on 2013-04-23 18:57:00 UTC
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If you've got a new idea, it's usually better to attach it to a tangentially related but existing thread than to start your own. In case you haven't noticed, the threads get bumped after a while, and nobody looks past the first two pages or so.
And yes, the Board moves slowly, but that's because not everyone involved can answer things all the time. IRL concerns and the like. We also tend to get sidetracked at little notice, which can lead to either fun times or the complete abandonment of the topic. Just roll with it for the first week or so, respond to things, get the dynamic, and such.
If you prefer faster-paced discussion, there are usually at least a few people on the IRC at any given time.
Again, the way the "nuttiness" was phrased in the description was contradictory to itself and needs work. People who can just switch personalities on and off when confronted with certain subjects usually have legitimate mental problems, and while that could be interesting if it's what you were going for, your responses tell me that it wasn't. -
It's slow for a reason. by
on 2013-04-23 18:55:00 UTC
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We like hijacking threads of similar topics to continue new discussions, and we're trying not to nudge good threads off the page, especially since the message board doesn't bring back a thread if someone has posted new things on it.
Once again, most of these questions can be answered by people in the IRC and by the Wiki. -
Woah, we are talking about the same thing. by
on 2013-04-23 18:59:00 UTC
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I'll just give you the reigns for this topic, then. I don't want more repetition than is necessary.
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Re: Agent? Yes? No? by
on 2013-04-23 18:40:00 UTC
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First off, torturing Sues is a no-go. And the way it's described, like that happens constantly, he sounds like he's a psychopath on or off duty. The pictures don't help with that.
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Two things. by
on 2013-04-24 00:34:00 UTC
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First, I need beta readers for a series of missions that I'm writing, all set before the Blackout and meant to set up the events of the Blackout (when they're not being mission-y). One is for a Hobbit badfic, one for LotR, and one for Doctor Who/Harry Potter. SPaG and flow checkers are also welcome; please give me your email so I can add you to the respective Google doc.
Second, I notice that Deleterius, the LJ community for LotR and HP Sues, is closed. That's a pity, considering the giant piles of Sue Sludge being dredged up from the depths of the Circle of Lemmings every day (I just reported some in the fic reporting thread, under the title "The Law of Lemmings" and "The Law of Lemmings, Part Two). I'd like to start a Sue Report specifically for Circle Sues; are there people strong-willed/stomached enough to help? -
Sure! by
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I think you already have my email, and I know you have my tumblr for the Sue thing. So yeah.
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I could help with sporkings. by
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I don't have a tumblr, though - could I just email it to you?
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There is a submit function. by
on 2013-04-25 14:32:00 UTC
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Have fun.
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A Sporking of "Living Dead"! by
on 2013-04-25 04:44:00 UTC
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http://glaurungitcircleoflemmings.tumblr.com/post/48828710386/this-fic-makes-zombies-of-us-all
Just putting this here for anyone interested in submitting Circle sporkings to the blog. -
Oh. Oh my :-D by
on 2013-04-25 20:37:00 UTC
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"MAIRON, YOU'RE SLEEPING IN THE OTHER TOWER TONIGHT!" And that, boys and girls, was how Mairon the Admirable became evil.
Win. All the win. Ever.
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I'm up for reporting by
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My trusty sidekick (roommate) should probably be exposed to some of these as a suitable revenge for making me sit through the new episode of Charlie the Unicorn...
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I love it! by
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... And will probably be adding to it after Thesis defense next week, because I won't be in a fit state to do anything else by then.
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I'd beta, if you like? by
on 2013-04-24 23:05:00 UTC
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Up to you. I'm familiar with all the canons you mentioned.
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Sure, email? (nm) by
on 2013-04-25 01:57:00 UTC
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Karen.E.DuLay@gmail.com by
on 2013-04-25 04:15:00 UTC
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I made a fake-email for online purposes. If you'd like, I can give you my real-name one via the fake-name one?
...I was raised to be paranoid about online stuff and still haven't shaken it off, even with people I /know/ I can trust. -
Now your fake e-mail will be swamped next spambot invasion. by
on 2013-04-25 07:28:00 UTC
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There's a reason nobody puts the @ signs in their e-mail addresses on the Board, and it's one I only realized was a problem myself. Before, I just took out the @ because it seemed the thing to do, and I just thought it prevented it making a link or something. But no. It's to prevent spambot incursion. Prepare...
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Oooh dear by
on 2013-04-25 15:39:00 UTC
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I hope not.
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Actually I've never noticed that happening. by
on 2013-04-25 11:09:00 UTC
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The usual reason people don't put their emails in full on the internet in general is that spammers (not spambots) tend to trawl for email addresses to send their stuff to. That's entirely unrelated to our occasional spambot invasions.
Regardless, nowadays spam filters are usually smart enough to catch the incoming junk. I know mine is, and I've been spelling out all my email addresses for years.
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That changes things, though I'm not sure by how much. by
on 2013-04-25 15:41:00 UTC
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On the plus side, now I know that the spambot invasions aren't connected to the wild spamming I've seen mentioned, and on the minus side, an individual could just be preparing to use it without there being a warning nearly as conspicuous as rampant spamming of the Board.
You're right, though, a good spam filter should catch it, or at least most of it. I just think it would be better if one didn't have to go empty out their spam folder any more than they had to, but that's just me. I don't know if most people even go in there unless they think they missed an automated e-mail they should have gotten. - Oh, and also have some vampire Frodo. by on 2013-04-24 04:15:00 UTC Link to this
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Found one. by
on 2013-04-24 04:50:00 UTC
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It's not technically vampire!Frodo, but he does develop a hunger for Sam's blood because of a poorly described reaction to... something. Maybe the Ring, though it really never says. The writer appears to have a grudge against the poor spacebar, and during the story creates the mini-Balrogs "hoobit" and "Strangely Gollum", as well as a version of Sam that is only a bit disapproving when blood-drinker!Frodo goes ballistic and slices at him with Sting to get his blood.
It's no legolas by laura, but I had a pretty specific category to look in, and either way, it's definitely badfic. -
...Wut? by
on 2013-04-25 04:27:00 UTC
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That's just...really reeking of bad slash. And maybe Twific stumbling into LoTR...and speaking of that, some nice little scene between Edward and Bella...I really am overusing ellipses, aren't I?*sigh*...
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I think I rather preferred vampire!Olga Kurylenko to that. (nm) by
on 2013-04-24 04:53:00 UTC
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Sorry, Lily by
on 2013-04-24 02:55:00 UTC
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I would love to beta-read, but I actually have four projects on my table right now :) Sure it'll be great, though!
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Love to, but- by
on 2013-04-24 02:31:00 UTC
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Beta-reading for someone else right now, WAY late on that,a nd should prob. get on it... and, okay, fine, Sues scare me... *hides under desk* Ah, a shiny thing. Feeling better now.
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In regards to Beta Reading by
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I'd love to help you with that!
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Oh, not with the Sue Report? by
on 2013-04-24 00:46:00 UTC
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Ye lily-livered rascal, ye are.
Anyway, toss me your email and the mission you'd like to beta read (I will warn you two of the three aren't done yet at this point, but yeah). -
Sue Report Question by
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Umm... the Circle won't let me copy-paste. Does this mean that for every Sue I report, the people accepting the mission will need to retype it all by hand, or is it just my laptop acting up for some reason?
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Sue Reports are another form of sporking. by
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http://consultingsueslayer.tumblr.com/ is the Sue Report blog for BBC Sherlock that I run.
Permission isn't required to do Sue Reports; for this one I think the only requirement is that it's from the Circle of Lemmings.
Coincidentally, I know a way around the first point as well: http://221bagel.tumblr.com/post/36552413689/how-to-obtain-text-from-the-circle-of-lemmings-for
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It wants a password. by
on 2013-04-24 02:11:00 UTC
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What do I type in for that? Did you put in the wrong link by accident, or is it something I did?
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it's circleoflemmings (nm) by
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Hooray! It works! I don't have to retype it all! by
on 2013-04-24 02:26:00 UTC
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It lost some of the teal that the Suethor colors her author's note with, but all of the text is there! I may need to use Google Chrome to find the source code, though; Firefox had it all horizontal, which made copy-pasting the story awful.
Oh, and I beat the old exclamation point record. After calling for her mommy, the Adventure Time Marshall Lee-lusting Guardian Angel Sue(for reference, the only other "angel" in Adventure Time was only pretending to be an angel so that she could capture and cook people who went into a certain cave system) used over forty exclamation points in a row! How is that even possible?
This is a mess. Also, if the Circle is anything to go on, Marshall Lee is Adventure Time's Legolas in terms of lust percentage, despite the fact that he only showed up in two episodes, only one of which he had any lines in. Maybe it's his plaid shirt. I never would have thought Suethors liked plaid, but it's the only thing about him that's different from all of the other minor humanoid characters.
Wait, here I am being silly and trying to apply what makes sense to a pack of Suethors. I should never try to do that. - The Sue Report is here: by on 2013-04-24 05:32:00 UTC Link to this
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Any specific continua you'd prefer? by
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And who would narrate the report? I'm thinking I might use some of my agents-to-be, but I don't know whether there are restrictions for that sort of thing. I've only just started reading the Sue Reports, and I like their format, but I'd like a few details to make sure I don't bungle it up.
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Whatever continua you can find. by
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Just make sure to tell me what fandom so I can tag it accordingly.
CSS has Sherlock Holmes and John Watson narrating the report, although really anyone is fair game as long as they're delineated from the text (although Tumblr doesn't provide text colours, so you really can only do two people in bold and bold underline). Sometimes people just use their own voice. I know Tawaki did Sue sporkings with different birds/Agent Tawaki. -
You have Mary Sue species names listed. by
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How does that work? I know the individual species would just be improvised on a per-Sue basis, but what about the family and genus? What do those mean? Or do they mean anything?
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Erp. by
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Puella means girl, Mulier means woman, Diabola means demon.
Most of the Sues I've classified are in the BBC Sherlock fandom and are usually young immature brats, hence the genus Puella. Mulier is used for slightly more mature sorts of Sues. Diabola is used for those really annoying and pesky vampire/werewolf/demon sorts of Sues.
I haven't had the chance to use Nymphea as a genus yet, but that exists as well, and would be used for elves/faeries/nymphs. -
Would Nymphea be a good genus for a half immortal wizard? by
on 2013-04-24 07:09:00 UTC
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Because I think I've found my target. I was all set to use the one with the angel, then I realized that it would be much more fun to spork that one as a mission.
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Clarifying, hold on. by
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As in, she is one-half immortal wizard, despite the fact that the immortal wizard in question has one of the big motives behind his constant reappearances involving him never undergoing social relations in any way and being desperate to have some.
Not that she's a half-immortal wizard. Though she can fly. -
Magus may be the better term there? (nm) by
on 2013-04-24 07:12:00 UTC
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*the only requirement for the fics (nm) by
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I'm not the best admin... by
on 2013-04-24 00:48:00 UTC
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My e-mail's over on my beta reader page on the wiki, though I think you've already got it. I'd be up for reading over any of them, to be honest, so throw whichever one you like my way.
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Words you don't know the meaning of by
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I've been thinking about this a bit recently, because I've been re-reading a bunch of the Discworld books. While I was reading them, I noticed that there was about one word per book that I didn't actually know - it was easy enough to guess the meaning from the rest of the sentence, and previously that's what I would have done. Getting up, finding a dictionary, looking the word up, was too much of a disruption for me to bother with. But these days, with a smartphone in my pocket, I can look stuff up almost instantly.
The most recent unknown word that I came across is from Soul Music, and was used when referring to the Unseen University's organ: plangent.
Apparently it refers to a sound, and either means 'loud and reverberating' or 'plaintive; sad'.
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My vocabulary has been helped by Shadowjack Watches Sailor Moon - it's sort of like an abridged series, but in text, and it's great. For episodes 44 and 125, he ended up writing in Shakespearean-style, and it's AWESOME.
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?479656-IWIW-Sailor-Moon-Part-2!&p=11200147#post11200147
Well, there's 'pewling stirk' , which is really an insult, 'regolith' (a kind of rock). I had to look up the exact definitions but it's pretty easy to guess at general meaning.
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?662888-IWIW-Sailor-Moon-Sailor-Math-8-Sailors-Mistress-9-Thread-11!&p=16149341#post16149341
Some archaic terms - corse and murtherer for corpse and murderer,'caitiff' (a coward), 'recusance' (refusing to obey authority), 'cozen'd' (to trick), and 'armillary' (hoops or rings, but an armillary sphere is used as a model for stars) -
I like "recusance". I might use it somewhere. (nm) by
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I tend to infer as well. by
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Though I do look them up later to be sure I've got the meanings right. To my chagrin, I usually mispronounce long or unusual words, because I almost never have the chance to use them in conversation and just read or write them.
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I infer by
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I infer the meanings of words, and have always done so. When I was little, I would ask my mom, and she would tell me to look it up. Naturally, I did no such thing, and ended up increasing my power of inference. It proved useful when taking the SATs.
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With the kindle, things are even easier. by
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If I come across a word I don't know, I just hold my finger on it, and the dictionary it has loaded onto the device gives me a quick definition of the word. I use it with Discworld a lot too, actually. The good thing is that I know what Prattchet was truly trying to say. The bad thing is, I find I don't put it to memory well. After all, why memorize it when the definition is a second away? This summer, I have to sit down with a dictionary and just put to memory all those words I should know but don't. Wish me luck.
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I personally... by
on 2013-04-25 15:38:00 UTC
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Tend to infer a word's meaning from its context. If I find a word particularly interesting or can't figure it out from the context, I will look it up.
Sadly, I haven't had much time for recreational reading of late, thanks to class.
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Fic to put on Unclaimed Badfic by
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Found this MLP:FiM fanfiction a year or two ago.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3764/mental-colt
Mental Colt - T rated.
-As Twilight bumps into a colt in the street, they decide that they should meet eachother again. In that process, Twilight finds out that he's mad for something else.
If I understand correctly, there's OOCness, altered geography, making ponies evil (the petty, disgusting criminal kind of evil), and this Casanova-type Stu named Ornald. -
VOOOOLES by
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Behold a human-in-Matoran-Universe fic. Yes, this is Bionicle.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8058778/1/That-was-then-this-is-now
Surprisingly, aside from the whole "where the hell is the language barrier" thing, the main character doesn't seem to be much of a Sue.
No, if anyone's a Sue, it's the supporting character Rhya Nui, who claims to be the sister of Mata Nui (aka Bionicle-verse's version of Jesus, who contains the whole setting IN HIS BODY) and completely ignores the final arc with Bara Magna.
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Nooo Rhya Nui what are you doing to my first fandom!
It's actually decent in terms of description of actions and such, but the Shadowed One is so OOC it hurts. He seemed perfectly fine for a bit, but then the human shows up and he goes "Oh look, someone showed up on my island; I think I'll inject her with a villainous fetus. None of that questioning or trying to figure out what a fully organic being the like of which hasn't been seen since Tren Krom's exile is doing on Odina, nope, fetus-injection time." And the "Turaga of Colour" that has a name with too many vowels just makes it even dumber. We'll need to kill her, too, not just because of her non-canon and moronic power scope, but because she was apparently a human named Sherrie who turned into a Toa at some point. Plus, she's aiding and abetting Rhya Nui, as well as another Sue named Kokua who is apparently a "hybrid" of a Toa and some unknown winged Rahi. Ugh, now I'm getting Custom Bionicle Wiki flashbacks. (takes another bite of Bleepolate)
It looks like Gearn, Bladair, and Cuife might be recruitable. They seem to have the beginnings of real personality, despite the fact that the story constantly confuses them with each other. Since the author claims that their names are Gaelic translations of insults, at least one of them might want to be renamed, though. A few of the other Dark Hunters might be recruitable as well, but after a few chapters, there are so many Matoran and Toa OCs that most of those should probably just be assimilated into canon, and the ones with gratuitous diacritic-sporting names should be renamed before that.
Of course, there are those Spirit things to be dealt with, and since the author apparently doesn't know that Great Spirit is a title given to the mind in charge of upkeep of their universe and not a species or rank, they appear to be literal ghosts. How would one kill a biomechanical ghost? Having biomechanical ghosts doesn't even make sense! -
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Rionna didn't seem Sueish from what I read, aside from (as mentioned) the lack of a language barrier.
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Re: What about the human? by
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Well, since she's not terribly Sueish aside from the trans-dimensional hopping and a few other comparatively minor problems, most of those related to her ease of adaptation into the Matoran Universe, we might be able to recruit her if she agrees to take glitter reduction therapy.
Heck, I'm scanning through this now, and in the later chapters, she's practically the puppet of the principal Sues, Kokua and Anuenue. If we break their hold on her, she might want them dead as much as we do.
For added "fun", about half of the OC Toa have anime names. I had suspected it earlier, with the use of Japanese diacritics, but with names like Sheranu and Notegeku, I'm practically certain of it now. When the creation of so many OCs is combined with the fact that Anuenue displaced the Rahaga and the Voya Nui Resistance Team from their proper spots in space-time just to have more characters to toss around, it starts looking like this Suethor has no idea how character distribution is supposed to work.
Oh, and the Toa-Rahi("Torahka", according to the narration) Sue Kokua is silber. That's not a color I've seen often, but she's unmistakably silber, since she's described as "silver/blue hybrid" during one of the redundant description segments. I... just... it... no. Where's my laser cannon? -
The name of the color. by
on 2013-04-30 22:23:00 UTC
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Silber is German for silver, in case you didn't know.
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We actually don't seem to have a silver/blue Sue color. by
on 2013-04-30 23:32:00 UTC
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When I checked the mission I heard of "silber" from, it said that it was mixed with glose, not blue, for whatever reason, so it wouldn't apply here. Drat. It's especially strange, since normally Sue colors tend to stay apart rather than create new Sue colors, but I suppose the decision on its component colors may have just been decided without checking for precedent. Or, possibly, in-universe, since the agents only looked at it for a few seconds before averting their eyes, it could have only looked like it was part glose. Maybe.
As for the color itself, the color "silber" was derived from a misspelling of "silver", so I'm pretty sure that it relating to the German world for silver is only a coincidence. It's good to know, though. -
If the main character is not the Sue... by
on 2013-04-30 21:30:00 UTC
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Then I would guess the agents could recruit her. After all, from what I have seen, she does not seem that bad. It will be interesting to see how it works, as usually it is the main characters who are the Sues. Hmm... Perhaps you could have the main character be a sort of puppet for the Sue to work though. Perhaps the Sue thought that if the focus was on someone else instead of her, the PPC would not kill her, or just ignore her story entirely. Add on being on Quotev, which has the 'no cut and paste' thing that is really very annoying, and she feels like she is even more secure against the PPC.
Wow. I just made the Sue far more clever then she probably should be. Do with my little theory as you wish. -
It wasn't Quotev. by
on 2013-04-30 21:42:00 UTC
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But other than that, I actually like your idea. It remind me of something the higher-order Sue-wraiths would get up to.
Combined with the various canons that are plucked off of their proper locations and the human plucked from a human-inhabited canon to serve as a decoy, we might actually have a higher-order wraith on our hands. And all of the uncanon Spirits... are ASPECTS OF IT OH CRAP OH CRAP OH CRAP. -
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on 2013-04-30 22:22:00 UTC
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I can't read the story at the moment, and all the discussion about Quotev at the moment made me just assume it was hosted there.
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Do you know how Sue-wraiths are named? by
on 2013-04-30 23:41:00 UTC
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Herr Wozzeck's higher-order wraiths were given Latin-sounding scientific names, but Neshomeh's was called a "ficubus". I'd need to read Ring Child to find out the traits of Neshomeh's wraith species, but this one is definitely not a conflictus creatrix or impetus miserabilis, and if this is a new higher-order wraith, which it probably is, it'll need a name. I also found another new higher-order creature myself in a Pokémon fic that replaces the entire setting with itself (short, but painful story), and that one will need a name, too. Do you have any idea how this sort of thing is decided?
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I unfortunately know nothing about Bionicle... by
on 2013-04-30 14:34:00 UTC
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But this sounds awful. And somewhat interesting, since you said the supporting character is the Sue...not sure how many times I've seen that.
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Ah, the Circle of Lemmings, A Harry Potter Fic by
on 2013-04-28 10:22:00 UTC
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Eleven:
http://www.quotev.com/story/3091312/Eleven/
Summery: *Hermione Granger Sister Story* One night, the Granger family found a baby girl on their door step. Hermione had gotten a little sister (only by a year) and everything seemed perfect for the Granger family, all until their birthday.
First this starts out with the impression that the Sue is the daughter of Dumbledore, who is apparently evil and the heir of Slytherin. It takes a while to realise that the Sue is Voldemort's daughter and it took me about that long to realise that the Sue's mother was not Poppy Pomfrey, but instead an OC heir of Ravenclaw. -
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I did not want to make a separate post to answer a rather simple question, so I'll just ask it here. It's about my mission anyway, so it sort of is on the topic.
The antagonists of the badfic I'm killing (other then the Idiot Ball) are a new race of beings brilliantly named, "griffon/ changeling hybrids." Besides their blatant uncanon natures, these creatures are in the "griffon kingdom of Griffala," which is supposed to be the Griffin kingdom. Normally, I would say this is a mini, however, it turns out there is a breed of dog called griffons, as well as a species of vulture. My question is, is this a mini and they are still crossed with griffins, or do I have a Diamond Dog kingdom and hybrid race to deal with rather then a Griffin one? -
I'd say the first. by
on 2013-04-26 21:17:00 UTC
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Griffon is a legitimate spelling of the species name outside of MLP, and the diamond dogs aren't really connected to any dog breed in particular. Of course, spelling it "griffon" insideof MLP still makes a mini; that was never in question, but it's not a big enough shift for the Word World to start grasping at straws. Still, even with what I just said, if the story refers to a "griffon" individually and not in "hybrid" form, I think it would be funny to have that vulture show up.
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Ah, my kingdom for permission by
on 2013-04-26 13:02:00 UTC
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http://www.quotev.com/story/1832087/Sukai-Toppa-Gurren-Lagann/
It's a Suefic of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, AKA my absolute favorite anime series. Our Sue a) becomes leader of Team Gurren, b) hijacks Kamina's awesome speeches, c) has speshul hair and eyes that can only be found on Beastmen and Nia, d) romances Simon, when in canon Nia is his One True Love, and e) BUILDS a Ganmen in less than a week.
Besides that, there's all kinds of spelling and punctuation errors, and I found no fewer than six mini-spawning misspellings just in the first four chapters. Which makes me wonder what Gurren Lagann minis would be, but that's besides the point.
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//passes Bleepka by
on 2013-04-27 22:12:00 UTC
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I'm sure every person without permission has felt this way. Just trust in the PPC to
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Twilight/TMNT crossover. Not even joking. by
on 2013-04-26 12:33:00 UTC
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Seeing as it's higher up than the last thread, and the last one is pretty big as it is, I'll just leave this here.
United in brotherhood, by pingu1997.
What if everything Bella had told the Cullens about her past was a lie? What if she had grown up in New York with four Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and a mutant rat as a father? So if everything was a lie, then what does Bellas past and future hold?
I flicked through it, and while I can't say for certain how bad it is, I'm fairly certain it's pretty bad. Not to mention there's bad SPaG. And it's a freaking crossover of Twilight and TMNT. Now, I'm no huge fan of either, but I'm pretty certain they won't go together that well.
Don't question why I found it. I was dared to go through Twilight crossovers and it caught my eye.
'Means changing and tweaking a few facts, but isn't that what fanfiction is all about?'
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Wow. by
on 2013-05-02 15:59:00 UTC
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I originally read that as MLP/TMNT crossover.... and was astonished to see that it actually made LESS sense than that.
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Oh lord, not Twilight Sparkle! by
on 2013-05-02 18:13:00 UTC
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Poor pony, having any relation to that fic
and story. But yeah, it makes completely no sense, does it? Who would even decide that was a good idea for a crossover? And yet, it's still updating... -
What the Mordor? by
on 2013-04-26 21:32:00 UTC
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That's so horrible it's amazing.
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Just because people don't respond to a comment, by
on 2013-04-25 15:45:00 UTC
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That doesn't mean they didn't see it.
If you have a badfic to put up, show it to the current badfic topic, which you did, or place it in the Unclaimed list yourself, which you could have done without starting a new topic. -
Okay by
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That last point, I didn't know.
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I was planning out posting some Lemming badfics there today. by
on 2013-04-25 17:41:00 UTC
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I'll put this one up at the same time. Still, keep that bit about posting things yourself in mind for the future. Everyone reports badfics, so it's not something that should be brought up every time you find a new one. Maybe once you have a lot of them you want others to look at, or you have a really nasty one, or there's a current badfic topic up that you can put it as a response to, then you can bring out the badfic. If there wasn't a system, the Board would be swamped in "Look! I found another one!" topics.
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We already had that one shown to us. (nm) by
on 2013-04-25 15:05:00 UTC
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New Mission! by
on 2013-04-26 00:02:00 UTC
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An Unexpected Companion
Target: Kestrel
Agents: Christianne Shieh and Eledhwen Elerossiel
Fandom: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Suething
Things added to continuity: This is set before the Interlude, so it alludes (or rather, foreshadows) a lot of things that will happen in the Interlude. Fics set after the Battle of Five Armies yet have Thorin, Fili and Kili still alive are essentially reanimating them from the dead (unless a reason for their being alive is given - and in this case there isn't).
Things up for grabs: the "mythril" deus ex machina pendant (it whispers mythologies at you), Bilbo's bugle.
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And another new mission! by
on 2013-04-27 20:52:00 UTC
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Time Will Tell
Target: Araen and Alasse Tinuviel
Agents: Christianne Shieh and Eledhwen Elerossiel
Fandom: Thou shalt count to Nine...
Things added to continuity: Fixing up Eledhwen's backstory, explaining why her name is so nonsensical (Morwen's lore name, a father name that implies she's descended from Elros - these get explained somewhat, I hope), and setting the stage a bit more for Interlude shenanigans (once again, this is also set before that). Rosalie makes an appearance as well.
Things up for grabs: Well, the Berien should probably be up, but since that occured before my Agents arrived I don't think they collected it (and it might just assimilate back into the Canon; it's a giant hobbit-sized bunch of berries anyway). Also, the Sue's Simbelmyne juice and its purty phial are up for grabs. Not sure what its effects will be now that it's been exposed to canon.
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I really enjoy... by
on 2013-04-29 22:41:00 UTC
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...the Christianne-Eledhwen dynamic you've got going on: they compliment each other perfectly. I also like how you've managed to weave in some details on each of your agents's past history throughout the text without it going all exposition-y on us.
The Quotev format jokes are quite ingenious, if I do say so myself. I'll have to come up with something creative when I'll toss an Intel agent in there...
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This is so awesome. by
on 2013-04-29 21:07:00 UTC
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I'm going to start this off by saying I normally don't like Tolkienverse missions. They're all the same - crazy fans getting upset over things that I frankly don't care about. Sure, I like LOTR, but not enough to really get mad about canon breaks and empathize with the agents. I was disappointed in your last mission, because it was...well, I think you've heard enough from more articulate people, and I'd rather explain why I loved this mission.
I like the little bits that indicate the Lemming nature of the fic - the floating pictures, the link that smacks them in the face. Especially Eledhwen's reaction to the name "polyvore".
Also, it was personal, relating to agents' character development, rather than just being fans getting upset. There is the same sort of dialogue, but it makes sense, because Eledhwen is a canon character, technically speaking. That's pretty awesome, and I think it was handled nicely, what with another extra recognizing her and the SEP field not working. I want to rewatch Return of the King now.
And finally, the parts you quoted from the badfic made me want the Sue to die. Most particularly how she calls Boromir a "scaredy-cat" after he gives his "one does not simply walk into Mordor" speech, one of my favorite lines. And the gender stereotypes bit - ugh. I don't know if it's just those bits, or it's the way you've handled them (I'm leaning towards a combination of both), but this is the first time I have read a Tolkienverse mission and truly wanted the Sue to die. Even TOS didn't get that reaction. You are awesome, Lily. -
Mark me down as flattered! by
on 2013-04-30 00:17:00 UTC
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I suppose the slight disappointing quality of the previous mission turned out well in the end since it made this one more enjoyable by comparison. Hehe.
And thank you for that distinction! Quotev Sues are generally liable to give anyone a headache, so it wasn't hard to find kill-worthy quotes in there. :'D -
Good work! by
on 2013-04-28 19:38:00 UTC
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This mission improves greatly on the last. Araen absolutely got what was coming to her. "You need women to do all the cooking and washing and stuff"? Really? REALLY? I think we need a mention and link to this in the "Gender Card" section of the FAQ For Other People. Also, what was the deal with her making everyone (except Boromir) into cringing wusses who needed her to speak for them? And the vacillation between modern-speak and normal-speak? I think I got a little whiplash just from the quotes—which is good, because it means they demonstrate the problem effectively.{= )
I also liked the discussions about the agents' backstories. I feel like they arose naturally from the events of the story, and Eledhwen in particular is in a unique and interesting position due to her origin. I think her relationship with Rosalie shows this, though I'm having trouble articulating exactly why. I guess because most Elves in HQ (probably) wouldn't have a negative reaction to species from other worlds, but Eledhwen has all those past experiences with Sues making her dance on their strings, and that gives her a different outlook. I wonder, does she feel the same way about unicorns, "dark" elves, and other invasive species, or is it nymphs in particular?
I felt like the reference to Omicron and Cluedo might've been a bit much coming right after the one in the last mission, but the repetition might be necessary for future readers to pick up on it as more than a throwaway gag, so probably not that big a deal.
It's interesting to see how you're handling the extra features from the Circle of Lemmings in the mission. The idea of ghostly images floating around the world is just the right touch of creepy and unsettling for me. Personally, I'd replicate the font effects in badfic quotes, but I don't know how much flexibility you have with that sort of thing on Tumblr. It particularly would've helped illustrate the point with the author's note in the "faux-cryptic voice due to the font of the message in question," though.
I really loved the joke about the agents being able to hear Acacia scream all the way from ancient Rome. It's a great callback to TOS. ^_^ It played less well the second time, though, when you seem to say that Acacia literally knows/senses what's going on in this particular mission at this particular time and can scream loud enough to resonate through multiple universes. That stretches my suspension of disbelief juuust a bit too far.
All in all, though, my quibbles are just that, and I really enjoyed this. On behalf of Alice and the nine horses from "Ring Child," I'd like to welcome Astaldo/Belroch/Marley to the Courtyard herd. I'm sure he'll feel at home in no time. {= )
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Thank you! by
on 2013-04-28 19:42:00 UTC
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Yeah, Tumblr doesn't allow much textual difference in the formatting, so I did have to convey the terribleness in words (the faux-cryptic font was Papyrus, btw).
I think the second mention could've been a joke phrased really, really badly, but then again, many Agents do have that whole "oh crap, favourite character being messed with" sort of sense. Eh.
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Hooray! by
on 2013-04-28 07:12:00 UTC
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Oh yay! I quite enjoyed the first one, and if it weren't one in the morning here I'd read on to the second! I'll be reading it in the morning though :D
If I might claim the Simbelmyne juice? That is if it doesn't come in the purty phial which was already claimed by World-Jumper. -
The juice is yours! (nm) by
on 2013-04-28 07:13:00 UTC
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Wee! Thank you! by
on 2013-04-28 21:25:00 UTC
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I shall store it next to my hydrophobic water for now. :)
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Excellent! by
on 2013-04-28 02:42:00 UTC
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Only now have I noticed how much I have missed new missions. This one was as good as the other one.
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You can have it without the juice. by
on 2013-04-28 07:13:00 UTC
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Myrddin just took the juice.
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Ah, excellent. by
on 2013-04-28 23:43:00 UTC
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Now that I have the empty Sue item, I can test a little theory of mine. You see, I am not only a Sue item collector, but a bit of a researcher as well. Now, if I add just a little glitter allong the inside...
There! With the reintroduction of Suevian power to the crystal, the container is able to rejuvenate the missing contents. I suspected as much, as the healing liquid seems to be a 'homage' to The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe. Lucy used the magic liquid to heal an entire battlefield full of wounded, yet never seemed to run low. Now, logicly, this would be because one needs only a single drop to be healed, and thus can be extended for a long, long time. But, since when have Sues used logic? Therefore, if I reintroduce a lack of logic, the potion will never run dry, as the bottle will forever refill itself.
Thank you for the bottle. I will have to look more into the practical application of glitter at a later time. As it is, I'm just glad I was able to get my hands on this artifact to test with! Safe travels you two, and don't let the Sues get to your head. -
Perfect. Just perfect. by
on 2013-04-28 00:13:00 UTC
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And what a horrible Sue...
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They were both so very marvelous! (nm) by
on 2013-04-28 00:08:00 UTC
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Cool mission! (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 19:27:00 UTC
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Thanks. That was fun! (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 02:39:00 UTC
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Huzzah! by
on 2013-04-26 22:01:00 UTC
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The zombie attack on new york joke was my favorite, I think. Wraith Fili and Kili is pretty darn scary too...
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Sorry, mythril got taken. by
on 2013-04-26 23:50:00 UTC
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If I find another one, you and World-Jumper can fight to the death for it. ;)
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Sure. Can it be death by Scrabble? (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 00:07:00 UTC
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Or a game of chess? by
on 2013-04-27 18:29:00 UTC
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Though I'll have to remember how the little horse shaped ones move...
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If I didn't know better... by
on 2013-04-28 17:00:00 UTC
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I'd swear you were trying to get out of playing scrabble with me, Jumper. :D
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Argh, violation of the One Steve Limit! by
on 2013-04-26 13:11:00 UTC
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For a moment I was worried about AGENT Kestrel, the former Corpsemaker in the DMS.
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Terri Ryan reviews. by
on 2013-04-26 11:10:00 UTC
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Here
In which a wide-spanning debate is manufactured in HQ solely so I can discuss previous comments on the mission. ;)
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Yay, thank you! by
on 2013-04-26 14:04:00 UTC
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I shall have to keep that all in mind for next mission. More quoting, less evasion. Heh.
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That review took a fair amount of balance work. by
on 2013-04-26 15:35:00 UTC
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Because of course, Terri is talking about how her colleagues should do their job, and the discussions surrounding that, while also serving as a vehicle for me to make a point or three. I hope both of those came across.
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It got through. by
on 2013-04-26 15:53:00 UTC
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I may have to put in some reprimanding for my Agents next mission.
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By the way, I found the quote I was after. by
on 2013-04-27 13:06:00 UTC
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"It makes my head hurt." Jay's eyes narrowed under the traditionally pointy and broad brimmed hat (plaid, of course) that she'd taken as part of her disguise. "What's the first major break in canon? Besides them?"
"Causing Arwen to vanish from existence? Keeping Gandalf around? Upstaging Gollum by using worse grammar than he does?"
"Yes. But it's at a consistent level of unreality. Bother."
Acacia shrugged. "We could use a particularly bad Character Rupture.."
It's that 'consistent level of unreality' that Terri was going on about.
(Also, why is TOS still so funny? I mean really.)
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Ha, I literally just read that yesterday. by
on 2013-04-27 15:07:00 UTC
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And I think TOS is still funny because nostalgic humour. And also because Jay is just a barrel of laughs, especially alongside Acacia. Which, of course, makes her serious scenes even more serious.
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Review! by
on 2013-04-26 06:33:00 UTC
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It has to be a quick one, since I need to get to bed, but here it is nonetheless!
I agree with Herr that a few more quotes showing the OC being Sueish would have made this stronger; or else spend a bit more time describing things so that we can see what's going wrong without a direct quote. Having the characters gripe about it to each other, while certainly a vital component to any mission, isn't always the best method for telling us about the badfic, since it essentially puts the audience at an extra remove from the action. It especially bugged me that we didn't see Kestrel woo any undead dwarves, since that was the main problem set out at the beginning of the mission.
The descriptions you do have are good, though, like the floating eyeballs and the zombie dwarves. I noticed that Eledhwen and Christianne kept it together remarkably well aside from the distortions affecting them, and I do like the inclusion of Bleepolate milk to combat the effects. Yay MiB. I would have been extremely disappointed if no one had incorporated that into the PPC universe. ^^
Somewhat related, one final note: beware the evil "as"! If left unchecked, it will force your characters to do impossible things like speak and chug at the same time, like so:
“Mini-Balrog up ahead,” the elleth said weakly as she chugged the Bleepolate milk.
I'm pretty sure even the Eldar would have difficulty mastering such an art, having but one mouth, same as us mere mortals. ^~
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. by
on 2013-04-26 06:43:00 UTC
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(The second series of lead-in missions will be much longer, I promise.)
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Length isn't really the issue. by
on 2013-04-26 19:09:00 UTC
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I think hS/Terri explained it better than I did: the main thing is that the mission needs to show why the OC deserves to be executed as a Sue. If you can do it with seven quotes in five pages, that's great, but usually it takes a bit more. {= )
Including too many quotes or otherwise dragging it out too long can be just as much of a problem, though. I personally have a serious issue with writing 30-40 pages of story when 20 (I think) is right around the limit of what people want from most missions. My current one is giving me a particularly terrible time with wanting to quote everything, because 90% is over-the-top and side-splittingly funny without any help from me. Some of the cuts I've already chosen make me sad, but so it goes. I'll have to take the hedge clippers to it when I get to the end as it is.
Let me just thank you again for reporting "Blood Raining Night," while I'm on the subject. It's the badfic that keeps on giving. ^_^
Anyway, it's all a balancing act between character development and sporking, between quoting the fic and interpreting it, between showing and telling, between not enough and too much. PPCing is hard.
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If you or hS want to look over the next mission for me... by
on 2013-04-27 10:17:00 UTC
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...and see if it's more effective than this one, please let me know so I can add you to the google doc.
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I'm sorry, I don't think I can right now. by
on 2013-04-27 16:11:00 UTC
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I already have a couple too many projects on my plate. Adding another one would likely just result in more procrastination. {= (
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Your next mission is going to be fun. by
on 2013-04-26 21:11:00 UTC
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When I read that last comment, I immediately went to the Claimed Badfic page to see if there was still a link to Blood Raining Night. What I found was a monument to ridiculous description everywhere. I'm particularly fond of the bit where Inuyasha suffocates ice by staring at Denmark. Even when I adjusted for the poor spelling and awkward phrasing, I still wasn't sure what the Suethor was trying to say there. Combining that caliber of nonsensical description with the trademark PPC snark... I can't wait.
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I hope so! by
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What I found was a monument to ridiculous description everywhere.
I know, right? {X D I personally love all of chapter five, especially the second half. Sadly, though, that's one of the parts I don't think I can fit into the mission, since it's mostly a delusion and not terribly plot-relevant.
I recommend hosting dramatic readings of this fic with your geeky friends, especially if they love anime (but use good judgement about the squickier parts, like chapter nine, if you have young or otherwise sensitive friends). I have, and it's great entertainment. It actually kicked off a tradition for us. My niche in my circle of friends is now badfic readings with live MST. I'm so proud. ... Okay, maybe questioning my life choices just a little, but mostly proud. ^_^
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Thanks for the advice. by
on 2013-04-26 19:15:00 UTC
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In hindsight I should probably have extended the mission to at least until the bit where Bilbo makes it to Erebor, which would've been a second breach of Canon, but... Yeah. What's done is done, and Eledhwen and Christianne will get reprimanded for not staying long enough (they have a habit of not wanting to witness more charges than is strictly necessary).
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Yay, a mission! by
on 2013-04-26 04:49:00 UTC
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Really well done Lily, I enjoyed several aspects of the mission, and it was fun to read. The allusions to what was going to happen in the blackout amused me, and while it did not add as much to the blackout as I expected, it did make me laugh, which is good. I liked the reaction of the dwarves to seeing their leaders die again, though if they were not going to be nuralized quite as quickly, I would have liked to see that emotion extend a little. Perhaps I'm just a little desperate for some strong emotion, as the badfic I'm sporking has practically none.
Well darn, should have jumped on sooner. I was going to nab the mythril, but Dawn has it already. Jumper is a bit of a Dues Ex Machina collector you see, so to have a pendant that allows travel would be something he would have in the collection. Not to use, mind you, but to observe and look at. Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
I would adopt one of the minis, but I don't think any of my agents would be interested in a mini Balrog. Jumper would be the most likely, but I'm not sure enough to take one and then have the poor thing neglected. Ah well, feed them all some of this bacon for me, as compensation. *tosses bacon bag* -
Yay! by
on 2013-04-26 03:42:00 UTC
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And much rejoicing was had. It's been a while since we've had a mission here, hasn't it?
Well, fun times were had with this one. The word mishaps involved were quite something, I have to say, and the banter between Christianne and Eledhwen was pretty nice. I wish I had seen just a little more of the fic itself, but that's just a nitpick when everything else worked pretty well.
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It literally was kill and scram. by
on 2013-04-26 03:44:00 UTC
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When the very foundation of the story is a breach of Canon, there's only so much more it can take before something Very Bad happens.
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Huzzah~! by
on 2013-04-26 03:00:00 UTC
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Sorry I couldn't help much...
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Congratulations! by
on 2013-04-26 00:19:00 UTC
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Also, I'll take the mythril! It sounds like fun :)
Also tempted to adopt Golem, but...bad idea. I have so many minis already...
And now, I shall actually read past the first few lines of the mission :)
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The mythril is all yours! by
on 2013-04-26 03:45:00 UTC
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The pendant part likes glowing mysteriously and causing hallucinations of really cold ground and bright white ladies.
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Thanks! by
on 2013-04-27 18:51:00 UTC
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I don't know which agent will get it, but I know it won't be Dawn. Actually, odds are it'll be Edgar; it seems to fit.
And the mission was wonderful :) I mean...wraiths, and, and, serious scenes, and--well, I liked it, let's go with that :) I also read it several days ago, hence the lack of detail, but what can you do?
~DF
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Calling all past and present OFU writers... by
on 2013-04-26 13:58:00 UTC
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... for the launch of OFU2!
A Welcome Message
Okay, here's the deal: per discussion further down the Board, it has been decided that the Coordinators of the various OFUs need to come together to discuss, dissect, and potentially destroy the various Sueniversities which have sprung into existence. A Sueniversity (and I believe we have Outhra to thank for the term) is a Fanfiction University - with all the hallmarks of the OFU brand, such as lessons taught by canon characters, cruelty to students, etc etc - which... doesn't do its job. It's badly written, it lets the fangirls run riot, the canons are out of character - you get the gist.
OFU2 is here to deal with that problem, and staff positions are open to all current or former OFU creators/Course Coordinators/etc. Your Coordinator will join with as many others who care to take part in walking through the Sueniversity (just like a PPC mission - and no, since this is not affiliated directly with the PPC, you don't need PPC Permission to contribute), discussing and being offended by the events, until eventually they (probably) fling minis at the thing until it burns. As noted in the Welcome Message, it'd be good if you could contribute a few of your own minis to the university.
How will the writing work?
Obviously, this won't be your standard OFU. There's no Course Coordinator - no students - and the entire thing is a 'film' presented to an unseen audience (although no, present-tense will not be standard). My assumption is that we will basically open up a Google Doc and throw story at the screen to see what sticks. ;) As long as we're not afraid to edit later, we can probably just work through a summary of the events until someone finds something they want to comment on.
To do the Google Doc thing, it'd be helpful if you could throw your email address at me... I probably have several already, but if there's no problem, give them again so's I can keep track.
What's our first target?
Since we've got a thread and all...
The three suggested Sueniversities I've seen are, in no particular order:
The Official Unofficial Fanfiction Academy by ToriLee/gingerlee.
Fandoms: About half a dozen.
Chapters: Twelve. Words: Unknown.
Hetalia Academy for Obsessed Fan Fiction Writers by Lia Alcona
Fandom: Hetalia - Axis Powers
Chapters: 33. Words: 19,847
Star Trek Academy by Sanne-chan
Fandom: Star Trek - Voyager
Chapters: 16. Words: 20,150
To these, I'm going to add a fourth, very old Sueniversity. I don't think it exists in its original form - but that's okay, because AW MST'd the whole thing...
Traning Time Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 by Divana
Fandom: Lord of the Rings
Chapters: 6. Words: Unknown.
(If we decide to do this one at any point, I'll create a non-MST copy for reference)
If anyone knows of any others, please add them to the list. Any OFU creators who want to contribute: this is a good opportunity for a discussion/vote. At present I have no preference as to which to tackle first.
Final note: OFU2 is a collaborative creation. I'm certainly not in charge of it, so if you want make some 'videos' in a different style to the semi-PPCing, go for it! I'm sure there's more to this teaching lark than just counterexamples...
(As to what prospective OFU writers need to be taught... well, that's up to you)
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Mr. C. H. Bentley from OFUMREDURE by
on 2013-04-30 17:50:00 UTC
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He brings with him the mini-Camoudiles Trama and whark.
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Have you got an email? by
on 2013-04-30 18:42:00 UTC
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That way I can link you in to the Google Doc and Mr Bentley can join the questionable 'fun'.
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Re: Have you got an email? by
on 2013-04-30 19:12:00 UTC
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korora underscore penguin at yahoo dot com
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Starting this off. by
on 2013-04-27 19:10:00 UTC
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I'll be emailling a GDocs link round - I've written a couple of paragraphs to get us started. In light of hermione's Not Hetalia Yet request, and since the author is a flaming hypocrite, I've made the arbitrary decision to start with The Official Unofficial Fanfiction University - also since that's what suggested the whole idea.
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Love the welcome message. by
on 2013-04-27 18:46:00 UTC
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And I'm still in. Or rather, Miss Nariel, co-coordinator of SBEI (Avengers) is. She'll be bringing the mini-Balrogs Bag-End and witch-king with her, most likely, as well as contributing a number of mini-Nick Furys. As to email address...
dawnfire360@gmail.com
Looking forward to this!
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I cannot express my excitement! by
on 2013-04-27 00:21:00 UTC
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Yes. Yes. Yes. You are using my idea! And I love that! Sueniversities are going to be a bit harder to find than regular badfic, because most badfic writers tend not to read stories making fun of badfic writers, but the OFU² sporkings are going to be awesome, I can tell. Teaching teaching through pain... through pain!
While I was looking for another one to post, I found... dun dah dah DAH! An unofficial Fanfiction University about writing fanfiction for the International Institute of Hetalia Fanfiction. Apparently, badfic about IAHF has gotten so bad that someone thought that a recursive Fanfiction University was necessary. Lily Winterwood, I don't know if, if I was in your situation, I would be proud that I got so much fanfiction or repulsed that so much of it is apparently bad enough to warrant this. The story itself isn't terribly written compared to the Sueniversities, since it at least seems to have knowledge of the connection between OFUs and pain, but it doesn't have any minis, treats the prominent Mary Sue invaders like staff members, and apparently thinks it takes place in the Homestuck reality for whatever reason.
Oh, speaking of minis, would it be possible to use minis for OFU² from any or all of the unfinished or duplicate OFU's? I'm sure the former OFU-affiliated minis would love having new fanbrats to swarm after so long a lapse, and people who liked the old incomplete OFUs could say "Look, it's the mini-Deoxys/Deepcoilers/what have you back again!" -
Oh that one I okayed. by
on 2013-04-27 00:26:00 UTC
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It's in a doomed timeline, was scheduled to appear in IAHF2 before I went on hiatus, and... etc etc.
I'm treating it as a plot device; don't worry, I know full well what happens in there (and I'm amused by the author's portrayal of myself). -
In fact, if there's any IAHF badfic worth sporking, by
on 2013-04-27 00:29:00 UTC
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it would be this one, but even that one is already being infiltrated by the PPC according to IAHF2, sooooooooo.
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What did I just read? by
on 2013-04-27 01:24:00 UTC
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And like I said, the one I linked wasn't terribly written; I just wanted to bring it up because I thought the recursive Fanfiction University idea was something worth showing people. But you already knew about it, so that sort of ruined the chances of getting the reaction I was hoping for(expressions of bafflement).
That one you linked, though... flat whats all around. It's obviously a trollfic, but that doesn't make it any less grating to the eyes, and it doesn't make it any more readable. Half of those words I couldn't even pick out. I think the narration said that someone was kissed in half at one point. I don't even. -
That one needs looking to the last three chapters... by
on 2013-04-27 01:25:00 UTC
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...for any root of sanity to take hold. And it is a trollfic, I think. I might nab the three PPC Agents in it; they're rather fun (and they show up in IAHF2 as well anyway).
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This gave me the most situational lesson of all time. by
on 2013-04-27 01:48:00 UTC
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Huh. I've not seen trollfic that interrupts its mess of spelling errors to show full-on story, only to jump back into trolling again. Usually, they either never say at all, and the ones that do either state it after the fact or, if they have even less class than the rest of the trollfic writers, wait until the last chapter and say the equivalent of "Ha! You actually fell for it!" It was an interesting idea, PPC Agents infiltrating the whatever-it-is, but it didn't make it any less painful to look at the interim.
Wait, was this you, or maybe someone who wanted to back up IAHF, that wrote this? I remember a Sue called Imogene being mentioned as IAHF's late-game antagonist, and the FFN account that made the fic only has one fanfiction listed on it. Was this intended as Imogene's origin story? If so, I guess it doesn't count as trollfic, since trollfic is either trying to make people cry from the canon warping or make them laugh from the ridiculous spellings and actions. What would this be counted as if it was an origin story, but not marked as such? -
HAIL IMOGENE. (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 08:35:00 UTC
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There is something hilarious about a Sparkly Dictator. by
on 2013-04-27 10:14:00 UTC
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Evil little Suvian blighters they are.
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There really is. by
on 2013-04-27 12:33:00 UTC
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I have to admit, I recently read the entire IAHF backlog (both years) in two days, pretty much for two reasons:
1/ I needed to find out what you'd done with the League
and
2/ That poster.
So well done there.
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The author started out wanting it to be a trollfic. by
on 2013-04-27 06:41:00 UTC
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I contacted her and convinced her to turn it to better use. ;)
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International Acadamy, not International Institute by
on 2013-04-27 00:24:00 UTC
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It's funny: right after I wrote that, I typed the correct acronym for the International Academy of Hetalia Fanfiction, but I didn't type the right full version of the name. Autonym retention is weird.
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Ooh. by
on 2013-04-26 19:22:00 UTC
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I can say for sure that Karen from OFUA:TLA would like to help out (which, by the way, is finally getting an update soon). There was a bad OFU floating around the ATLA fandom a while back, but I don't recall how to access it...and you have my gmail, I do believe.
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I'm in. by
on 2013-04-26 17:03:00 UTC
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Miss Gloria will participate, while Miss Maria oversees duties at OFAS. Since Miss Gloria is going, her own personal mini Hanssen will come too.
My email is that username up there, at gmail.
As to our first target, I would prefer if we didn't do the Hetalia ones, because all I know about Hetalia is that it is an anime/manga about anthropormorphised countries. -
Count me in! by
on 2013-04-26 14:11:00 UTC
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Adding this one to the pile: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7146221/1/Hetalia-Writing-University
And I volunteer Mr Ben of MBSFA and Mr Allen of IAHF. Their partners can run their respective OFUs while they're doing this. (Well, we'll just say this happened some time earlier in the IAHF timeline, or much later.)
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Beta Request! by
on 2013-04-27 04:26:00 UTC
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Oh hai guys.
Well, if you know me, I've been out of PPC writing for a while. Well, I've written my first mission in some time, and I was looking for someone to look over the mission for me to read it (particularly since there are some things I want to flesh out a bit). So... yeah. -
Late as Usual by
on 2013-04-28 19:16:00 UTC
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But if you're Still Looking, we'd be happy to Beta. Our E-Mail is SeraphWeasel@gmail.com if you want us to read it over.
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Sure! by
on 2013-04-27 16:52:00 UTC
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I'm always up for beta reading!
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I could always use multiple betas... by
on 2013-04-27 23:40:00 UTC
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Can I send it to your e-mail?
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Sure! by
on 2013-04-28 06:41:00 UTC
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Do you want my gmail address too, so that I can look at a Google Doc if you have one, or is this just going to be a Word file or something similar for now?
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Haha, don't worry about the similar titles. by
on 2013-04-28 12:15:00 UTC
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And it's a GoogleDoc, so... I've set it to "anyone with link can comment", though, so...
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Two posts with the same title, by me, in the same thread? by
on 2013-04-28 07:16:00 UTC
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(facepalms) I should never write my responses at one in the morning. Sorry about that.
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*takes a bow* by
on 2013-04-27 14:06:00 UTC
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I would be delighted to be a beta reader.
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And me! by
on 2013-04-27 07:49:00 UTC
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Pick me! Pick me!
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Hm... by
on 2013-04-27 16:45:00 UTC
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Can I send it to thine e-mail?
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Toss it over! (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 06:42:00 UTC
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I'll help! by
on 2013-04-27 05:29:00 UTC
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I can help ya!
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Quick question by
on 2013-04-27 17:47:00 UTC
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I can't seem to find this on the wiki....
We were talking yesterday on the IRC about Power Rangers (it was a rather short conversation) and someone mentioned that there would be a new mini type for every season.
Since Power Rangers is a shared fictional universe, would the mini-types be universal (or two types, because of the whole Disney-Saben fiasco)? Or would it be per season? -
A question about trans-dimensional classification. by
on 2013-04-29 22:36:00 UTC
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So, according to the wiki, trans-dimensional snatching is when canon characters are brought to the Real World, and trans-dimensional hopping is when an OC (from World One/the Real World) ends up in a canon universe. However, what is it called when a Real World person--in this case, an actress--ends up in a canon universe? More specifically, what is this badfic where Jennifer Lawrence turns out to be Penny's cousin and moves in with Leonard, both of The Big Bang Theory? (Yup, that's from the Circle of Lemmings. Are you surprised?)
Is this RPF? Advanced trans-dimensional hopping? A different form of trans-dimensional snatching? Does it fall under the jurisdiction of the PPC at all?
Just trying to iron out some details. Because, really, Quotev is full of this sort of thing, and it's making me expand my knowledge and classification of badfic, and I'd like to know what is and what isn't off-limits to be PPC'd.
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It might end up being neither in that particular example. by
on 2013-04-29 23:36:00 UTC
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In the instances I've seen, trans-dimensional snatching is more along the lines of "random character that should by no means belong where it is is nonetheless forced there by unknown means". Usually, this results in or is a symptom of a full crossover, but sometimes it's only just random characters appearing where they don't belong, just to please the writer and with little to no mention of what will happen the rest of their world in the absence of its protagonist, which is trans-dimensional snatching at its core.
I remember one mission where the agents charged for trans-dimensional snatching by having a brief mention of the Left 4 Dead characters in a sci-fi universe(I think it might have been Star Wars). It was an unconnected continuum, in a different genre, and the snatched characters were never heard from again outside that scene. Textbook, really.
I think the distinction isn't so much whether World One is the starting point or the ending point, but rather the method. Trans-dimensional hopping is usually a "this is the only way it's going to work" story crutch, since otherwise the Mary Sue wouldn't be able to have knowledge of pizza-making and popular boy bands(not that it stops them), which would cripple the writing style of most Suethors. Trans-dimensional snatching is more a "Wouldn't it be cool if she was here, too?" scenario without the forethought or logical reactions and causes for the transit that would make the appearance of that character halfway plausible.
In that specific badfic, however, I don't know if it would be trans-dimensional anything. It would be stupid, undoubtedly, but since The Big Bang Theory exists in a world so close to World One that Will Wheaton and Steve Wozniak not only exist, but appear as themselves in episodes of the show, it's not out of the question to have Jennifer Lawrence exist.
It's not as though they were saying that her character Katniss Everdeen exists in the The Big Bang Theory continuum, and made her Penny's cousin, without any of the Hunger Games universe present in anything more than throwaway dialogue. That would definitely be snatching, assuming it doesn't expand from there and turn into a crossover.
Giving World One actresses implausible relationships to canon characters is a charge, though, and a major one at that, so I'm not saying drop the idea. Far from it; I'm actually interested to see how a sitcom universe would be PPCed. -
Well, originally... by
on 2013-04-30 04:31:00 UTC
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The job of a Despatcher in the Department of Trans-dimensional Snatching was "to return any canon characters who are brought to this world [i.e. the Real World] back to their original location," according to "Tales from Despatch." It's pretty explicitly about removing abducted fictional characters from World One. Here's another early example, with DTE Agents Mara and Isaiah.
The concept of trans-dimensional hopping was apparently added later, and by logical extension I'd say it would apply strictly to people from World One hopping themselves into a canon universe under their own power.
I think what really distinguishes a hop or snatch from a regular crossover is 1. World One is involved at one end, and 2. the will of the author-insert explicitly causes it to happen; a deus ex machina such as a Fairy Godfather/magical wish may be employed. Note that not all Sues are true author-inserts; most authors aren't elves living in Middle-earth, for instance. Note also that the author-inserts in the above examples are not harmed, since they're regarded as real people.
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Well, that would still be Despatch's job. by
on 2013-04-30 22:38:00 UTC
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It would be a lot more common to see a Sue snatch a canon to World One than it would be to see them snatch them to another world, but upon reading that DTE mission (Man, it's been a while since I read the early spin-offs. I really should reread Araeph's missions, and TOS, while I'm at it.), the same points are made. No consideration is given to how the characters got there, so it's basically deus ex machina, there is no mention of how their continuum manages without them, and the canons are taken out of their native world by the will of a group of fanbrats.
Still, I agree with you that it would be very difficult to distinguish a trans-dimensional affair from a crossover if World One wasn't involved, and I don't see Despatch getting pulled outside their forté of World One interaction to deal with minor snatchings in an unrelated badfic.
While we're on the subject of uncategorized World One affairs, what about the "A dimensional portal drops (canonical location) into OUR WORLD! How will this wacky cast of clichéd characters deal with this? Because I know I saw loads of that back when I primarily read Bionicle fanfiction, and I imagine there are plenty of people who can't resist pulling Equestria or Rivendell out of their proper place and into the lake a few blocks away from their neighborhood. Never mind where all the water goes, oh no, water isn't important here. Voya Nui just showed up behind the house!
Sorry. I was remembering a particularly bad Bionicle fic there. I'll get back on topic.
You said the author-inserts weren't harmed in the above examples, but Mara and Isaiah fed theirs to Old Man Willow. Is it just Despatch that has no-damage orders? True, the full-on author avatar in that mission was dealt with by taking away the captive Legolas and insulting her, but the inserts were still disposed of in-story by being digested by an enormous tree-creature.
Also, the Hydrangea appears to be speaking without her italics. Was Tales from Despatch written before that was decided upon? I know I remember reading the Marquis de Sod and Sunflower Official using the italics in the TOS stories, but those could have been added in after the fact. -
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I suspect that's simply a Fanfic.net formatting fail. If the Hydrangea's lines were in "quotes" or *something else* it could be a variation, but the complete lack of formatting said FFN just stripped it.
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It was a Star Trek mission. by
on 2013-04-30 00:25:00 UTC
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This one: http://cyba-zero.livejournal.com/2108.html
How dare you confuse Star Trek and Star Wars! Blasphemy! *chuckles*
Anyhow, I too would be interested in seeing how Big Bang Theory fic would be sporked. My sister had a couple agents and we were discussing this, but she's stopped having much to do with the PPC. I suppose the best way would be to send agents in who are not from World One and show the culture shock. Or have one from World One and another from something exotic. Big Bang Theory fic needs to be tackled, though: Sheldon is a Lust Object. Sheldon Cooper is a Lust Object. I just can't believe it. -
Gasp! I have committed a vile crime! by
on 2013-04-30 01:29:00 UTC
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I couldn't remember who wrote the mission, so I couldn't go back and check before I posted. Now I'm a bit embarrassed, not least because of my Star Trek fandom. At least I got the video game that the snatched characters were from right and didn't accidentally say Dead Space or something.
Hmm, neither of my agents-to-be are from World One, they don't really understand the culture, and they tend to be prone to shocked reactions. Perhaps they could get a Big Bang Theory mission in at some point. It would probably need to be crossed over with something, because otherwise they'd never get the assignment, and jokes about not understanding World One culture tend to fall flat when your characters are implied to have watched a show that makes as many pop-culture references as The Big Bang Theory does.
But, considering that I found an ungrammatical mess that for some reason decided to mix the aforementioned with Pokémon after looking for about thirty seconds, I don't think finding missionable crossovers for it is going to be that difficult.
I suppose Sheldon Cooper being a Lust Object runs on the same principle as Data being a Lust Object. "Oh he is so witout emotion BUT I CAN HAEL HIM weith love!" is an infamously common plot device amongst Suethors, but usually they use it to uncharacteristically defrost the aloof and disdainful anti-heroes. Characters like Sheldon and Data that give them so much more to subvert must seem like an extra layer of challenge on the Suethor's scale of Troo Wuv. -
Oh, that mission was one of mine. by
on 2013-04-30 10:22:00 UTC
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Also, that 'Stu not only trans-dimensionally snatched the Left 4 Dead characters, he was also responsible for bringing Alan Turing (the World One genius who invented computers) into Star Trek via a misspelling - and assimilating him.
For reference, Star Wars got mentioned as well in that mission, given the appearance of a lightsabre.
Actually, the person who wrote that badfic also wrote one where the same 'Stu was in the Left 4 Dead continuum, and presumably the mess my agents dealt with was a continuation. In fact, he's written a lot of fics in a lot of continuua, all with the same sort of main character (most with different names, but the behaviour is pretty much exactly the same). -
Holy schist. by
on 2013-04-29 23:33:00 UTC
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I am not surprised that something that completely off the wall crazy (insane? stupid?) came from the Circle. What. The. Actual. Fudge.
(Notice my creative substitutions.)
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That probably knocks out about half... by
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...of the Circle's badfic stock anyway, since most of it is "x girl finds love with One Direction/Justin Bieber/Cute Male Celebrity of your Choice".
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This makes me glad RPF isn't still under our jurisiction. by
on 2013-04-30 01:40:00 UTC
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The unlucky agent who would get assigned Justin Bieber in the Department of Character Protective Services would need to be put under constant flamethrower watch. I don't even want to know what sort of crime an agent would commit to be given that job.
The former DIO Agent Peter Piper killed two Department Heads, and all that the Board of Flowers gave him was exile to the Minecraft continuum. Getting chased around by fire-spitting flying squid would be a picnic compared to sifting through page after page of Justin Bieber seduction RPF written by drooling fangirls. Just the idea makes me miserable and desperate for mind-bleach. (takes a bite of Bleepolate) I'm going to need a bigger stock of Bleeproducts if this keeps up. -
I bet my agents would cry. by
on 2013-04-30 01:48:00 UTC
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Not just because they don't like his music (although "Baby" is just irrationally catchy), but because this is the same pop star who went to the Anne Frank House and wrote that he thought that if she lived today, she would be a Belieber. I mean, how self-centered is that? And then you get all the drooling little girls who write those fics flying onto Twitter and demanding "WHO'S ANNE FRANK WHY DID HE GO TO HER HOUSE I'M SO JEALOUS OF HER".
Have I also mentioned once when I was volunteering for a community New Year's Eve event, I had to supervise a resolution wall? And guess who turned up to write shallow resolutions - Beliebers and Directioners. I'm sure they're lovely people when you get to know them better, but if their resolutions for 2013 are "marry Justin Bieber", "marry One Direction" (How do you marry five blokes at the same time? Isn't that a bit frowned-upon?), and "hope Taylor Swift gets cancer", you really can't help but judge them anyway.
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My faith in humanity just died. by
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Both stories - so pathetic - I…no words.
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Yet another mini question. by
on 2013-04-28 04:56:00 UTC
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What do folks think: Do misspellings in the actual canon also become minis? As far as I know, the only example of one recognized anywhere is Enjorlas the mini-Brick, which is a typo in the printed Les Misérables, although it may have been made up by Bubonic Woodchuck for UDÉM coincidentally.
I like to keep track of typos I find when reading. The Halo novels are chock full of them (and clearly not edited for SPaG). I noticed Ocs and Iluvatar (with no accent) in my copy of The Silmarillion. I've caught Montage in Fahrenheit 451 and Kublia Khan in The Judas Strain.
So, a few questions. Firstly, and most funly, have folks encountered similar typos in canon as well? Any funny ones?
Secondly, do we want to recognize these misspellings as minis? If so, then thirdly, where do these minis live? In the corresponding OFU? In canon itself? New Caldeonia? The Twilight Zone? Yale?
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on 2013-05-01 22:08:00 UTC
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I think that misspellings in a canon have the potential to create minis. Actually recovering them might be a bit tricky, although I can see two ways of that happening:
1) If agents have noticed typos in the canon, and get sent on a mission into that continuum, then after they've dealt with the Sue (or whatever) and the canon has reasserted itself, they could use their RA to try and get to the right point in the source story to recover the mini.
2) It could just be that PPC HQ is unstable enough that simply reading the misspelled canon would cause a mini to spontaneously form next to the agent reading it (similar to how weird stuff always appears at the Unseen University in Discworld, because it's the least stable point of reality). I've actually got a half-written scene that I've had for a little while where that happens, ready to use as part of a future Mission/Interlude if I feel like it.
I too have found the occasional typo in canons before, and they seem to be more common in slightly obscure sci-fi - I guess the publishing houses that deal with kind of stuff are just smaller and less well equipped? It's not just limited to sci-fi though, I'm pretty sure that in some of the earlier books in the Wheel of Time series, I've seen saidin and saidar (the male and female halves of the main magic system) get mixed up. -
I've always seen "canon" minis as different in personality. by
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I've seen plenty of typos in books, though most of them are the non-mini-creating sort.
I've always seen a mini's intelligence being based on how many times its name would likely be used. For minis of rare or ridiculous misspellings like Caprtsin Jqck Sprow or Asrogron, they would be practically feral. For more easily understood misspellings like James Kurk, they would be intelligent and possibly fully sapient, but still not really reconcilable as intelligent beings to most people. For minis in published works, since their name has spread through the world regardless of the potency of the misspelling that created them, they would gain a large amount of intelligence, as well as a desire to lord their status over the other minis. An "alpha complex", if you will. Whether the other minis actually would submit to the publishing error depends on the species, of course.
I briefly toyed with the idea of having my agents meet the mini-Rayquaza "Pokemon", who is not only printed in a multitude of websites and official works, but has absorbed enough knowledge, largely through cultural osmosis, to be a genius by human standards, even gaining the power of full speech in three languages. All played for laughs, of course, especially since he'd be more eloquent than one of my agents would. I might still do it, since the Pokémon mission I planned is far enough in the future for me to regain the element of surprise.
Hmm, the "Kublai Khan" misspelling makes me wonder what a Coleridge mini would be. Mini-Honeydews, maybe. He did mention that a lot, and I don't think we have any minis that take the form of fruit. -
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Was what I was planning for Ryker, a mini I found in the Princess Diaries book. He thinks he's so much better because he was published.
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I like that. by
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I get the feeling Amercia would be a really arrogant Mochi Nation (moreso than most of the America Mochis) because Mitt Romney had him on his campaign website.
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Interesting question... by
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Well, if Suethors are able to create mini-Sues, then I don't see why canon authors shouldn't be able to create minis as well. And since minis' forms are dictated by their canon, then Iluvatar (no accent) is a mini-Balrog, whether created by Tolkien or a Suethor.
However, IMO, I think that that question is purely academic: since PPC agents find minis in the Word Worlds in which said minis are created, and PPC agents cannot go into the Canon World, I find it implausible that an agent would be able to spot such a mini in the first place. -
Not as implausible as it might seem at first. by
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If a mini exists in the canon world, and a canon world is the basis of fanfiction, any created within a canon world would be accessible through the Word World, would it not? Even the mistakes could be dredged back up.
A mini-Iluvatar that appeared in a Suethor's work, by the principle of mini singularity that was apparently decided upon a while back, would be the same mini created by the misspelling in the Silmarillion. To provide a tangential example, I remember a mission that accidentally brought in Garrus Vakarian from Mass Effect due to the misspelling of a canon character named Garruk. The summoning of a mini made in-canon would be no different from dragging a character from another canon into a Word World through accidental textual error. -
Probably per season, as son of heaven mentioned below. by
on 2013-04-28 00:32:00 UTC
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Especially since the themeing for every season is different every time. I mean, "Dino Thunder"? "Turbo"? "Lost Galaxy"? Yeah, those all imply really different things, especially since the thing that causes all the different ranger teams changes in each season. You know how it is.
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Another mini question. by
on 2013-04-27 20:21:00 UTC
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"I amar prestar sen," Galadriel whispered, and I frowned. "The world is changed..."
"But that's not right," I muttered to my partner as the prologue to The Fellowship of the Ring continued. "It's 'prestar aen' – 'is being troubled'. The movie got that right... hey, do mistakes in canon languages cause minis?"
Okay, in canon languages per se, I'm assuming not. But this is a direct (mis)quote from the movie... I see three possibilities here.
1/ 'I amar prestar sen' is a mini-Balrog.
2/ 'sen' is a mini-Word (probably manifesting as the Runes of Daeron spelling it, with mini-Balrog characteristics - compare Aaragog)
3/ No, it's just a charge.
I can't remember seeing particular situation before, so unless anyone has any pressing arguments against, I'm probably going with #2. But since I don't want to be beaten over the head with the Precedent Club, I thought I'd best ask if that's a problem.
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If it's a misspelling of a word, it shoudn't be any mini. by
on 2013-04-28 06:33:00 UTC
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It's not a lot different from running a phrase through Google Translate into Greek, and posting that into a story as a Greek phrase. It's probably going to be wrong, because it's Google Translate, but you aren't going to get a bunch of mini-Thetas running up at you for it. A misspelling of a canonical language is the same thing.
Like Neshomeh said, minis are more for proper nouns than anything. I may be misrecalling the chronology here, but I remember reading several of the first missions to "spawn" minis in-story, and they even had the minis act out the parts of the story assigned to their misspelling. Since the Word World couldn't actually use a character named "Asrogron", if a story had Legolas "talk to Asrogron", it would have Legolas talk to a mini-Balrog that spawned nearby, while Aragorn would stand in the background as the mini aped his lines until his properly spelled name was mentioned again. It was a fun idea, and I've occasionally wondered why people stopped doing it.
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Wow, typos in the title of my post. Ironic. by
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Okay, "shoud" should have been "should", as is obvious. Also, to clarify, "misspelling of a word" was to be interpreted as "misspelling of a word only in an invented language", but the title bar didn't have enough space, as always.
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I think it's just proper nouns. by
on 2013-04-27 23:26:00 UTC
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As far as I know, not all misspellings make minis, just ones of people and place names. As the Philosopher wrote, "For every name spelled wrong in Rings, a mini-Balrog gets its wings."
If it was any misspelling, we'd all be up to our eyeballs in minis before we knew it!
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The point is... by
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... it's not just a misspelled Sindarin word, which obviously wouldn't be a mini. It's a misspelling of a canonical line in another language - and the first one in the entire (movie) trilogy, at that.
But... "If this is indeed the will of the Council, then DOGA will see it done."
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On a related note, what about misspelled places? by
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I can't seem to find anything on the wiki (but I am bad at searching wikis), and if I've read a mission dealing with it, I've clearly forgotten it all, so...
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GenerallyÂ… by
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It works the same as a character mini. Rivendale, for example, is a min-Balrog.
The only exception is in my OFU, because I wrote it before I knew about the PPC precedents. Besides, there's an omnipotent trickster on the staff, who could have simply said "I'd like to have mini-starships". So yeah. -
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Speaking of OFUs... by
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I was thinking of offering to beta for you, if you wanted it.
I have been hesitant up until now, on the basis of 'Until I'm perfect, am I really good enough to beta for someone else?', but I suspect I'm probably being too much of a perfectionist with myself again.
So... I could give it a look-over for SpaG and such. I might not be perfect, but nobody is and we can all use the practice. It also may be good for if your usual beta gets busy. -
I think it depends on the word? by
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In the mission I just posted about a second ago (sorta) my Agents noted that the Sue misspelt "Perian" into "Berien", creating a hobbit-sized pile of berries.
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MMPR Minis by
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IMHO, every series (with the possible exception of the three in the Zordon era (MMPR, Zeo, Turbo)) is different (different Big Bads, different Mooks, different Rangers), so it would make sense that each series gets its own mini type.
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Thanks (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 19:14:00 UTC
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Now that I think about it... by
on 2013-04-27 17:52:00 UTC
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It might be a stupid question...
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It's not that bad of a question, really. by
on 2013-04-27 18:11:00 UTC
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At the very least, I've asked worse.
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Just out of curiousity (nm) by
on 2013-04-27 17:48:00 UTC
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Sample of writing by
on 2013-04-28 19:14:00 UTC
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I don't expect permission. After all, it's only been a week since I joined.
Nevertheless, I simply want opinions on this introductory scene to the Agent bouncing around in my head. Is it funny? Is it any good? Or is it just something I should scrap and toss in the "bad ideas, no tienes razon" bin?
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Ooookay, a few semi-related things. by
on 2013-04-28 21:23:00 UTC
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I know you've heard this multiple times, but I'm going to say it again. Constantly bringing up permission-related things in fresh topics is not going to help you. It is going to associate your name in people's minds with "is obsessed with getting permission," rather than "constructively adds to dialogue." Asking people for concrit once, on the IRC, or as a reply to one of your threads here, is cool. Asking people over and over again, and getting annoyed when they don't respond, is not cool. Please don't go hide in a hole now - I'm not trying to be a jerk, or hurt your feelings. It's just a thing - the PPC is really, really more about community than anything else. Yes, we're a community built on good-writing, and praising good writing - but the community part comes first. That's why we ask people to hang out a while before they get permission - not to give them lots of chances to ask questions about permission, but so that they can get to know people, and we can get to know them.
This is more of an aside, but I'd also note that as a permission giver, you don't actually have to submit an introduction to your agent as your writing sample. Yes, it can be done, yes it works, yes, it does serve the purpose of proving that you can write characters in-character and understand the PPC... but you can also submit a lot of other stories that prove you're a good writer - anything with dialogue and a bit of humor will work, really. Don't feel like you must write a whole new introduction just to get in.
And don't feel like this is an attack or trying to push you out, either, please. I know it's a little overwhelming, jumping into a whole new community - but take your time, we really don't bitemostlyI can't speak for the zombie squirrels or the animated plushies or the minis, so don't feel like you have to be pushing your stuff all the time to get accepted. It's okay to take your time, get to know people, hang out, and apply for permission when it feels right, rather than stressing and obsessing over it for months. In fact, it's an approach I'd recommend. -
Alright... by
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I'm not that great at the community thing. Hell, the one I'm currently part of (followers of Let's Player PinkKittyRose), I'm not entirely sure how I managed to stay a part of it. I chalk that, and basically anything else I succeed at, to complete and total dumb luck.
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I'm just going to say, it may seem like people get angry at you, but they honestly aren't really angry. I used to think a little like you when I first joined, which is admittedly why I left the community here for a while, but after a lot of thinking, I realised, they weren't really angry at me, I just sort of... took things the wrong way.
So anyway, what I'm trying to say is, don't make the same mistake I did and think everyone is angry at you for doing things wrong. They'reusuallyjust trying to help! And trust me, you'll know when they get angry.Usually. Everything is usually.
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Blast and bebother my communication skills. by
on 2013-04-28 23:05:00 UTC
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I'm not angry. Really! I'm telling you this so that you can avoid making people angry by altering your actions.
This was, for some years, my only regular community, internet or otherwise. It helps if you understand what is meant by community, I think - a lot of us, myself included, tend to automatically define it as "a group of people excluding myself and everyone I know," which is... not what I mean. When I say "we're a community," I mean "This is a place where generally geeky people hang out and talk about geeky things," with the added connotation of "a lot of us are friends, and usually people who show up wind up also being friends!"
So don't stress out! And don't chalk your successes down to dumb luck: that way lies madness, or at least sadness. I don't think you've seriously pissed anyone off. You ruffled a few feathers a few times, but quite frankly, show me someone in this community who has ruffled no feathers, especially in their newbie days, and I will show you someone who is either lying or very forgetful. Just hang out and talk about geeky stuff with us! That's basically why we're here. -
You aren't. by
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You're just kind of doing things a bit too quickly for most people here.
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Ever heard of Luminosity? by
on 2013-04-28 20:29:00 UTC
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DawnFire recently linked me to a fanfic of Twilight called Luminosity, and its sequel Radiance, both by Alicorn. They're basically rewrites of the Twilight saga where Bella has a brain and a personality and everything makes sense. I'm wondering how many other PPCers have read it.
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That was hilarious! :D (nm) by
on 2013-05-01 05:39:00 UTC
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Could it be... by
on 2013-04-30 23:16:00 UTC
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IT IS.
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What did I do? (nm) by
on 2013-05-01 02:57:00 UTC
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I read that! by
on 2013-04-28 21:43:00 UTC
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I quite liked it. Especially the bits of worldbuilding on mate bonds and powers. Did you read the short story bits?
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Loved the worldbuilding. by
on 2013-04-28 22:52:00 UTC
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ESPECIALLY the stuff with mates and powers. It makes so much more sense that way! Especially with Edward falling magically in love Bella despite barely knowing her. And words cannot describe how pleased I am that Alice's power was used realistically, with the example of note being Tyler's Insane Truck of Death.
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I enjoyed them by
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I found that through the wiki a few months back actually, and I really liked it. I did think the author went a little over-board on trying to re-make Bella's personality, she was just bad in a different way, and now it detrimentally effects just about everyone she runs into.
I really liked the second book, I loved seeing more personality-wise to the lesser members of the Volturi, and the wolf pack. You should read the twenty or so short stories at the end too, very well done at keeping the characters pretty in character and believable I think, well except Bella and that was the point. -
Read the Flashes. by
on 2013-04-28 22:49:00 UTC
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All I've got left are two fanfics, and one of them...isn't what it could be. XP Tempted to find the author and ask them if they've used to learn contractions in speech since writing the thing (people don't say "did not" when "didn't" would be faster/sound better!). Also the parents aren't my favorite characters. They're mostly asses interfering with the happiness of the female character and her brother.
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Fanfics of fanfic... by
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Interesting idea. XD I've not read the fanfics for it, and probably won't. I read Luminosity because I was curious how it would be different if Bella only had a brain. *watches scarecrow Bella dance about singing* Not because I really had a burning desire to read Twilight fanfiction. ^_^; Though I have pretty much decided that continuum is where my agents will be going on their first mission when I get around to it. *is evil, or maybe just trying to get the worst out of the way first*
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And it doesn't stop there! by
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Jay and Acacia's PPC stories were essentially fanfiction of bad fanfiction, and all of us writing missions based on that are writing fanfiction of their fanfiction of fanfiction.
Wow, we really are meta. I don't think I've ever actually seen the extent of how many layers this has until now. There might even be another one dealing with the PPC Histories, like Crashing Down and that. If we reference that in our fanficitons of fanfiction of fanfiction, are we dealing with an entirely new layer, or an extension of the third one?
I wonder how a Mary Sue is detected in the Twilight continuum. Since several central characters are gigantic Canon Suvians, does that mean that any Twilight Mary Sue has to be even more Sueish than, say, Bella? Because I'm not sure how much more Sueish than Bella you can get in a continuum that close to World One without venturing into unmitigated troll fiction. Do you know? You were planning on going on a mission there, after all. -
A Sue is a Sue is a Sue. by
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Is a Sue. Also, we are ridiculously meta, and extremely inspired by Discworld. It's kind of amazing when you uncover new evidence for it.
I think Twilight Sues are found the same way as Sues in any other continuum; Bella just happens to be a Canon Sue (*sigh*) and the main character. I don't think OC!Sues have to be measured against her, except possibly in a charge list--'Being more of a Sue than Bella Swan' is a charge, and if it isn't, then it should be.
Bella, by the way, has a name that means 'Beautiful Swan'. I don't know how that translates to clumsy, since swans are generally seen as graceful, but let's face it: her very name is Sue-ish.
...I have this awful curiosity now of what would happen if a Bella replacement was recruited. I don't even know what she'd do. I mean, she'd need to change her name so as to avoid prejudice, and she'd need to change her personality fast--although, if she was a replacement, she would have a different personality (or even less of one than she does in canon) anyway, so that might not be an issue. On the other hand, I'm not sure anyone would want to recruit a Bella replacement, unless a Twilight fan does the mission, so...
Nah. I'll content myself with sparklepire agents. It's more fun anyway.
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I never really thought about it by
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I suppose technically you're right, we (being in a collective sense) fan-fiction about fan-fiction. Though I never really thought about it that way since it's not really fan-fiction is it, as we are not fans of the fiction. We are instead fans of the source material who are trying to deal with bad-fic of it in a way that doesn't cause our heads to spontaneously combust. XD
That should so be a charge! And clearly Stephenie did not put as much thought in to the naming of her characters as the likes of J.K. Rowling, unless she was shooting for some sort of cliché irony in Bella's case. That would be an interesting recruitment prospect, I think I agree that any such agent would want to go by a pseudonym, though if she was recruited clearly such an agent would already have a different (or any!) personality since Bella is a Sue to begin with, and I doubt she qualifies as a salvageable Sue as her canon self. Although she's not really salvageable at this point either, if people were looking for recruitment Bella's, I did run across a werewolf!Bella in a fic I was considering for saving for my first mission. A real, if not true, werewolf, not a Twilight "werewolf" that is. As in was bitten, turns at the full moon (mostly, apparently extreme stresses can do it as well) and can hear the moon make audible howling sounds to warn of the change... -
The moon does what. by
on 2013-04-30 23:18:00 UTC
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It howls. Seriously? It howls? Link me to this fic. I must see it with mine own eyes.
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As I understand it by
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From this bit, and because she states she hears this howling at times there are no other werewolves around.
"We stayed like that all night, my hunger all but forgotten, so when I heard the howl that warned all werewolves they were going to shift back soon I was sad." to which she "I let out a howl that let the moon know I had heard its call." a paragraph later.
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Whuh. by
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That--that's pretty weird.
I mean, I can see what the author meant to do with that, but it didn't happen, and this is weird.
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My mental image is confusing. I'm just going to shake my head slowly.
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Good plan. (nm) by
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Maybe I should spork one of the Luminosity fics sometime. (nm) by
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Do iiiiit. by
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Wait, can we spork fanfic of fanfic?
I *think* so, but...complicated.
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If we can, there are SOOO many Fallout Equestria fics... by
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I don't know if they are bad, but... yeah, there is bound to be badfic there.
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Fanfics? by
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For Luminosity? I vaguely recall reading one about a Sue offspring of Elspeth and Jacob who was even more powerful than Bella and could rewrite how you thought about saying just by saying something and urgh.
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Hahaha, oh wow by
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That sounds incredible. Not in a good way, but still incredible
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Yes. Fanfics. by
on 2013-04-29 04:04:00 UTC
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The one with Elspeth's kid was kinda eyebrow-raising, but there's this one...ugggggh...the main female character had leukemia as a kid and her parents had her brother for the stem cells, then later he had to donate more cells when he was seven and apparently he was a match to another family's kid and they harassed the main female's family for a donation but got turned down and now everyone in that family is being utterly horrible to the mf's family, but we only learn that after the mf notes one kid in her class hates her for no reason and thinks that's perfectly normal for high schoolers (I'm thinking not, there's always a reason, however petty). And there's no tension or anything and hey I think I'm ranting. Ima stop now.
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I still don't quite get a few things. by
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I'm putting this in a new thread because I think it might fill up quickly with responses, as this question is about what seems to be a core element of PPC writing/characterization.
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I once saw... by
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... writing for the PPC described as 'Monty Python's Improv Workshop', which I still think is pretty apt.
What it means is that a PPC story means taking whatever comes your way, such as:
-Being absolutely furious at a Mary-Sue ruining the Council of Elrond.
-Your co-writer making a typo in a common phrase.
-Your partner ruined your deck of cards
And, rather than glossing over it, using it (the Improv Workshop part), and putting a distinctly Pythonesque twist on it:
-Making sock puppets to tell the Sue off
-"It's a bit of a maze, unless you haven't noticed"
-Steal some from Saruman!
To use your example, while it might be funny once for someone to paint the walls with ketchup, random nonsense does not a good character make - "I enjoy pasta, because my house is made of bricks" is not a good personality type. Instead, how about a character who paints the walls with ketchup because they've heard there's a vampire in HQ and want to confuse it? Or because the Response Centre is made of chocolate and they want to stop their partner eating it? Both of those actions make sense - they're logical, if weird, responses to the situation.
And yes, sometimes people just do random things - and, because Jay was in fact a flake, "Monkeys have feet!" - but that's to do with the specific character, not the overall method.
As to why it's important... um, because it's one of the two reasons the PPC is funny, the other being snarky commentary on badfic. To turn the question around, if you don't understand that - what do you find funny about The Original Series?
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I think that's why... by
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It might be better for someone to watch some Monty Python and other bits of British humour before writing for the PPC, because then they'd understand the sort of humour that goes into the PPC in the first place.
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Oddly enough, though, there are no indications that Jay and Acacia were themselves British. Go figure, eh?
But yeah, I'd describe the humor in TOS as subtle, sometimes a bit dry, situational, and based on shared references/experiences. Lots of the laughs arise out of a sense of recognition—"I see what you did there!"—or camaraderie: "Yes, this! Been there! Seen that! Thank you for sharing!"
That's just me, though. What's funny is so subjective, it's probably a bit different for everyone. Personally, I don't think TOS is laugh-out-loud funny most of the time; but it makes me grin a whole lot. {= D
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Jay adopted British mannerisms at least twice. by
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(But then again Jay also often adopted male personas whenever she could, which I find interesting in my latest reread mostly because I've been 'round the circuit at Tumblr and more or less come to the conclusion that Jay could've been genderfluid, or not identifying as female all the time - but that's a different matter altogether and I should probably not read too much into it.)
Since TOS is written in American English and the two of them usually use American slang and words I figure they just consume a lot of British media and it shows in their sense of humour.
After all, humour of the likes of Python usually require a wider range of knowledge about the world, which is probably the reason why it goes over the average person's head. It's easy to laugh at things like bad puns and pratfalls, but it takes more thinking to get one of those sly references.
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I've always thought they were Australian. I...don't quite know why.
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Well, now they are ancient Romans. by
on 2013-05-01 02:44:00 UTC
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Just remember that if you see an ancient Roman mural that looks suspiciously like Elrond in a museum.
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Well, Acacia is. by
on 2013-05-01 07:45:00 UTC
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Jay just... visits occasionally.
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Huh by
on 2013-05-01 14:19:00 UTC
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I wonder how Acacia's getting along in ancient Rome.
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Is it just me, or does 'Elrond in a museum!' sound like it belongs with 'Radagast on a Bunny Sled!' and all the rest?
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Re: Creative Curses by
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Most Creative Curses deal with something irritating or canon-shifting, prime examples being Jadis randomly materializing in ice during the Prince Caspian movie and Thranduil's inexplicable possession of a majestic elk in An Unexpected Journey.
Elrond being in a museum sounds more amazing than facepalm-inducing.
"And if you look to your left, you will see the records made by ancient civilizations of a legendary ruler figure. Note the leaf-shaped ears, denoting a potential non-human role in local mythology."
(tourists snap pictures)
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So it could be 'heck yeah' rather then 'heck no?' (nm) by
on 2013-05-02 03:21:00 UTC
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^ This. (or maybe, 'wow...') by
on 2013-05-02 14:13:00 UTC
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I mean, I can see that.
Agent sees Rivendell for the first time?
"Elrond in a museum..." whispers the stunned agent.
...well, it might work...Anyway, I do agree that we should have creative things other than curses.
Actually, at some point I may try to compile a list of PPC expressions, including the Creative Curses and "Everyone and their mini". Not sure what else, although I'm sure that's not all there is...
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Apparently quite well. by
on 2013-05-01 15:14:00 UTC
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After all, her jewellery spread all the way to Britannia... (about a third of the way down; you can search for her name).
She still gets occasional visits from her favourite flake, though. (Down at the bottom of the page - the italicised sections are canon, the rest is badfic)
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Whaddaya know. by
on 2013-05-01 15:30:00 UTC
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So now I'm being inspired to write badfic for FanFic Land, as well as hypothesizing that you're secretly an archaeologist who moved to Bath in order to find signs of Acacia's legacy. I do love conspiracy theories, don't you?
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Really? by
on 2013-04-30 15:50:00 UTC
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I know about the Corvid-the-Plaid incident, but I can't think of any others off the top of my head - and that one was pretty clearly to get in the joke (Istari being all male and all). What other examples are there?
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Dead men of Dunharrow. by
on 2013-04-30 15:58:00 UTC
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As I recall, Acacia was an androgynous Dead Man, whereas Jay was more masculine. And I think the British cheese elf persona may also have been male.
I'm not touting it as any form of canon, because it's not. It's just the feeling I got from Jay's characterisation when I read I this time. -
*it. Stupid nexus. (nm) by
on 2013-04-30 16:02:00 UTC
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That's really interesting. by
on 2013-04-30 15:30:00 UTC
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Because the first time I read TOS, I was convinced that Jay was a guy. Huh. Apparently I wasn't stupid after all.
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...that makes me want to write a genderbent AU of TOS. by
on 2013-04-30 17:32:00 UTC
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I'm serious; I kind of want to see how Jay and Acacia's partnership would change if Jay, Acacia, or both were male. I wonder how it would turn out...
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That's an idea for FanficWorld. by
on 2013-04-30 18:07:00 UTC
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Keep it up for the Badfic/AU fic Game. :'D
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I thought it might be... by
on 2013-04-30 18:14:00 UTC
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Will do :) When's the next one?
(Oh dear, this is going to end up so weird...)
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Ask hS. Usually it's in the summer, by
on 2013-04-30 18:15:00 UTC
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although the last one happened in the fall. Ish.
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Hm. ATTENTION, HS! When's the next Fanfic Land/World/thing? by
on 2013-04-30 18:19:00 UTC
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Did I yell loudly enough? /innocence
Hm. I hope it's not in July...I'm probably not going to have much internet access then. That's probably going to be very annoying...I suppose I could always hand in a late submission or something.
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HELLO. CAN IT HEAR US NOW, PRECIOUS? by
on 2013-04-30 18:33:00 UTC
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The Fanficland badfic contests were usually in July, yes. The first FanficWorld one was in September last year. Either way, it's not for a while (and I'm thinking September to space it out better with the Shipfest).
That doesn't mean you can't start working on stories in advance, though...
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OUR EARS! OUR EARS! WHAT HAS IT DONE TO OUR EARS, PRECIOUS? by
on 2013-04-30 18:46:00 UTC
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September would work out a lot better, at least for me (hinthint) It does work well for spacing, too.
As for working on stories in advance--I'm currently writing next year's April Fool's Day mission, because the plotbunny glomped me and I know I won't have so much time next year (exams start around then). And yeah, it was far too much fun to do just once. It's a different sort of joke, though. I'm having a lot of fun with it...
*goes off to brainstorm ideas for --ok, just nearly wrote 'Jay/Acacia genderbender fic'. I...may have to take that as a sign of what I should write. Wow. Should be...interesting...
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Genderbender? by
on 2013-04-30 23:36:00 UTC
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Hehe. Genderbending. The sixth form of 'Bending in ATLAverse.
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*chokes* by
on 2013-05-01 07:41:00 UTC
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Congratulations, you've just given me my plot device. I think.
And no, I know very little about ATLA. And I don't intend to learn, so that when I write this it can be suitably awful.
'Sixth form of 'Bending.' :D
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I tried to write that, once. by
on 2013-05-01 14:20:00 UTC
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Where Aang learned genderbending. I stopped partway through.
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Wasn't that metalbending? (misses the point) by
on 2013-05-01 00:33:00 UTC
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But seriously, though, a genderbender would be an excellent addition to any army. With a wave of xir arm, the enemy forces would suddenly have forcibly rearranged internal anatomies. They would stop, wondering about their sudden changes, possibly feeling a little bit more in tune to their fellow man, or as he is now, fellow woman. When one's identity can be changed so easily, is it not futile to see the world as requiring only one way of life? Are not their enemies people who, like themselves, are thrust into life not knowing where it will take them? They themselves woke up that very morning men, and were now women. Who is to say that the others were not suffering changes of their own, changes that might make their world turned far more askew than any battle ever would?
And then, while the invaders are being existentialist, BAM! Rain of arrows. Ironclad strategy. -
Alright, for the second time in by
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Existentialist invaders. Wow. I'd quote Holy Musical B@man at you, but I know you don't know it.
Can you write this? Somehow? I don't know where it would fit in, or to what, but it would be awesome :D
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Metalbending is technically a subset of Earthbending. by
on 2013-05-01 03:15:00 UTC
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Alternate scenario: the invading army, upon being turned into women, cannot properly cope with the new hormones flooding their system and turn into an enraged mass of estrogen-fueled destruction. They surge forward, weapons held high, intent on destruction. Every sexist comment they have ever heard or said suddenly comes to mind and furthers their anger, for as they are women now, they clearly don't want to be seen as inferior.
When the dust settles, only women remain alive on both sides. They form a pact - to create a sovereign state of women, by women, for women, where all men are met with death and despair. Their armies sweep across the globe, and in their wake is liberation for the oppressed females. Men are delegated to menial work, minding children and doing physical labor.
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And you are awesome too. by
on 2013-05-01 07:46:00 UTC
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That is all XD
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"And it is good"? by
on 2013-05-01 03:56:00 UTC
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Except for the violence, sexism, oppression, and enforced gender roles, you mean? *raises eyebrow*
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Well... by
on 2013-05-01 14:21:00 UTC
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Good for the women, obviously. Not so much for the men.
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Probably not for their kids, either. by
on 2013-05-02 00:22:00 UTC
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Or anyone who didn't identify as a traditional gender/sex/sexuality combination to begin with. Or anyone who thinks that oppression is bad for humanity in general, no matter who it's happening to this time. >.>
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Well, you say that... by
on 2013-05-02 08:28:00 UTC
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... but what about all the situations where oppression is good? Like in that one place at that one time where that thing... happened... and therefore oppression was good?
You know what? Forget this.
Argument from Untranslated Old French! Dispute that if you can.
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Okay, if you insist. *removes gloves* by
on 2013-05-02 14:57:00 UTC
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You didn't win. You used PURE WIN. by
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And that's even better.
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Yep, that's why I picked the one with the Doctor. There were many "your argument is invalid" macros to choose from, but I thought he was the most appropriate to this time and relative dimension in space. ^_^
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... well, you win. (nm) by
on 2013-05-02 16:31:00 UTC
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Well, you can't have everything. by
on 2013-05-01 07:48:00 UTC
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Although now I'm picturing a Hunger Games-esque revolution...in a world vaguely like the Twilight-verse...
I should let go of that plotbunny while I still can, shouldn't I?
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Keep the plotbunny. by
on 2013-05-01 14:21:00 UTC
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Let it grow.
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Now I want to put it in the Jay/Acacia genderbend badfic. by
on 2013-05-01 15:35:00 UTC
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That's a bad idea, isn't it? I mean, it's a bit too deeeeeep...never mind!
Ok, so: Jay and Acacia. Genderbend. AU. Sound bad so far?
Good.
Get ready, PPCers...FireDawn is going to make an appearance (ohmigosh my avatar-avatar has an evil fanbrat twin what is this), with her very first PPC fanfiction, which can't use Jaycacia as a shipname and...will therefore have to find another one.
(Yes, I know 'FireDawn' is obvious. Think Tristram/Tramtris. If it somehow worked for him...)
(Ok, fine, maybe I'll translate it into another language as well. But I like the Tristram reference, so maybe I won't.)
Seriously, what is with my brain these days? I keep on ending up with crazy plotbunnies.
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*has mental image of a person drowning in fluffy bunnies* by
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Thank you. That made me laugh.
See, I thought you could be something like DuskWater - Dusk being the opposite of Dawn, Water being the opposite of fire. I've been thinking about "Bellatrix of Romulus" myself.
I look forward to this genderbend AU. -
...waitaminute... by
on 2013-05-01 18:42:00 UTC
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Was that mental image influenced by Kirk+tribbles, by some chance? Because that's what it's reminding me of.
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Sounds fun--except for the drowning bit. by
on 2013-05-01 18:40:00 UTC
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What can I say, I like rabbits.
You're welcome :)
Oh, hey, that's pretty neat! I may use that, actually. Also, Bellatrix of Romulus sounds perfect XD
So do I. So far, I have a rather babble-y a/n, a disclaimer, and a ship name: Byrdtree. It also seems to be turning into two different badfics--one's the genderbent Twilight Games AU, and the other's a 'what if Jay was male all along (and this was written by a Suethor/badficcer)' sort of thing. (I forget--can we have multiple submissions? Or...)
No idea what the actual story's going to look like, though. I suppose I'll find out. I plan to reread some of TOS for inspiration...and then just throw in all the crazy ideas I can think of. Should be fun!
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Obligatory Badfic Game Clarification. by
on 2013-05-02 16:52:00 UTC
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The Badfic Game is basically a weekish-long 'Pretend To Be A Badfic Author' game. Some people use that to write one long story (or, in my case, one chapter of a long story); others churn out four or five of the things.
A few other things worth noting:
-Not everything you write for FfW has to be bad. Someone wrote a very long very-AU PPC story last time, and actually I think the very first game featured Starwind writing a 'good-but-too-high-rated-for-the-PPC' story.
-Given that we're playing at being PPC fanfic writers, anyone else's characters (with the usual exception of Stormsong and Skyfire) are fair game. After all, you're /writing fanfic of them/ - liek, how can tEhy complain??? Immitashun is the best form of thinggy!
--Leading off that, it can actually be a good place to explore things you wish had happened. If you think that Jay and Acacia's relationship was fraught with UST* - or that Dafydd Illian was secretly gay** - or that Lux is suffering from depression*** - well, you can't write it as a PPC story, but FanficWorld is the perfect place...
*It wasn't.
**He wasn't.
***She really isn't.
-As my FfW persona JayBird demonstrates, your name doesn't have to refer to your Board name - though if you find it funny, that's fine too.
-You can have multiple pennames. This is mostly for people who want a fanthing persona to write with, and a scathing/something else penname to review under. The reviews are half the fun.
-Probably-obvious fact, but the FfW website is a nonfunctional archive. All stories, profiles and reviews are done on this Board, and transferred by me (which is why I rarely write very much).
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Ooh, sounds fun! by
on 2013-05-03 00:39:00 UTC
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Scary, but fun!
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Sounds like fun! by
on 2013-05-02 20:20:00 UTC
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Looks like I will finally have a place to put "The Myserious Somebody makes a Very Bad Day".
The Bog Thorn will never be the same, and all of the SunflowerOfficial's chips will be eaten. It will be a very bad day for the whole of the everybody involved. [/badfic phrasing]
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Author's wishes, I think. by
on 2013-05-03 00:33:00 UTC
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I think it also has to do with the fact that Stormsong and Skyfire are used by Laburnum with permission from their original author, so it's about being able to control when they appear and not having them become an "open-source" character.
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That's the one. by
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Since Laburnum probably got tired of saying 'Please can no-one use these two because etc etc' every time the possibility arose, I've started putting it into the rules and clarifications where possible.
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And a generation later... by
on 2013-05-01 07:48:00 UTC
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... the exact same scenario takes place with the sexes flipped.
And a generation after that.
And a generation after that.
Etc etc etc...
(It's always good for the side that wins. ;))
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Gah, that sounds awful! by
on 2013-05-02 00:15:00 UTC
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Ride, please stop the operator, I wanna get off. @.@
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I...might be putting that in my badfic. Sorry. by
on 2013-05-02 14:15:00 UTC
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The bit about the flipped oppression, that is.
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This is terrible and hysterically funny at the same time. (nm) by
on 2013-05-01 02:52:00 UTC
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Dude, I'll be in China then. by
on 2013-04-30 18:21:00 UTC
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Not sure whether I'll have access to internet there. And even if I do, I wonder if they'll mess with Google Chrome. Hehe.
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Hey, cool. by
on 2013-04-30 18:28:00 UTC
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Have fun!
My grandparents were actually just there. They said they had a great time...
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What's funny is that by
on 2013-04-29 18:10:00 UTC
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The Marquis is described as being actually friendly to Jay and Acacia. Sort of. It's surreal.
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Well, there's the problem... by
on 2013-04-29 16:37:00 UTC
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I didn't find very much funny. Maybe the jokes flew straight over my head each and every time I tried to read it, I don't know...
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Then perhaps a different question. by
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Can you give me a link to a (safe for work) fanfic you did find funny? That way maybe we can figure out why TOS makes some (most?) of us burst out laughing, but leaves you unmoved.
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Yeah, about that. by
on 2013-04-29 20:23:00 UTC
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I haven't really laughed at any writing aside from my old, horrible stuff that because it makes me wonder what the heck I was thinking back then.
Then again, I haven't looked at much fanfiction or other writing in the first place because I'm usually doing music-related things or playing games or arrgh
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Hmm. by
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What about non-fanfic stuff? As the Constitution says, "Don’t worry about your interests being too eclectic for anyone else to be interested in — history has proven time and again that there probably is someone who shares your interests." Can you think of any piece of fiction that you've found funny recently, that someone here might have heard of?
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Nothing. by
on 2013-04-29 20:32:00 UTC
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I used to laugh a whole lot at immature, idiotic crap, but I actively despise that kind of thing now, so...
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Wait, no. by
on 2013-04-29 20:35:00 UTC
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Only very small things that literally are isolated incidents throughout multiple things, nothing really notable in all actuality...
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Er. by
on 2013-04-29 21:45:00 UTC
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So is this whole conversation basically "I'm blind; explain blue to me", or is there some nuance I'm missing?
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Uhh. by
on 2013-04-29 23:22:00 UTC
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I used to laugh a lot more, but not at things I should have... Then again, didn't we all when we were that age?
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Okay then... by
on 2013-04-30 06:00:00 UTC
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...what's your stance on Monty Python? They've got a couple of really good sketches that have the sort of random/nonsensical humour we're talking about.
Let's see if any of these will elicit a chuckle or something...
The Dirty Hungarian phrasebook sketch
The Spam sketch
Biggus Dickus
And a song to cap it off. -
Oops, that was me (nm) by
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Good questions. by
on 2013-04-29 00:08:00 UTC
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And deceptively simple to answer. I think "quirky/zany/silliness" is a good definition of PPC insanity, but it takes a lot of different forms, and not all agents have it to the same degree. Also, they're only "insane" relative to us here in the real world. In HQ, the quirkiness of agents is the norm; it's the saner ones who are weird.
Whatever it looks like, I think it's important because it's the thing that allows the agents to laugh and carry on in the face of surreal, illogical, and sometimes disgusting things that would otherwise wear them down, make them give up, or tip them over the edge into homicidal rage (a.k.a. "flamethrower-crazy"). If you or I saw someone with a literal "head of fire," to make up an example, we'd probably freak out and call emergency services. The average PPC agent would just break out the marshmallows.
In a more meta sense, it's important because it's a device that lets us make jokes about bad writing instead of just raging at it. Laughing is fun; being angry isn't. {= )
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I might need/want an example... by
on 2013-04-29 00:32:00 UTC
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As I still don't exactly understand what you're getting at.
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Wait, no. by
on 2013-04-29 00:33:00 UTC
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That makes no sense, I could just look at literally anyone else's writing here and see some examples.
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Hehe. by
on 2013-04-29 01:13:00 UTC
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That's true, there's no shortage of examples. Still, if you can explain what doesn't make sense, maybe I can think of one or two that specifically illustrate what I'm trying to say.
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Re: I still don't quite get a few things. by
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Well, the way I see it, PPC Insanity is sort of quirky zany crazyness. It's making castles out of bread, or making your entire RC a pillow fort "just because".
It's important, because that's one of the main points of the ppc. Sometimes, when The Words take something literally, it can be horrifying, but most of the time, it should be silly. Like, if a description lists everything except pants, the character won't be wearing any. -
So it's basically... by
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...Making them do funny things because they're funny?
Making a character do something "just because" is something I usually try to avoid as much as possible while writing, as it seems like a bit of an excuse to me when I think about it. I prefer things having a reason rather than them happening just because it would be funny if... I don't know, someone started painting the walls with ketchup, or something. -
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Yes. by
on 2013-04-28 22:12:00 UTC
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Quirky zany craziness nails it. Doesn't compare to clinical insanity.
Also...
"Like, if a description lists everything except pants, the character won't be wearing any."
Is it bad that I did that to one of my agents? -
Ellipsis, you rock. (nm) by
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Link seems to be broken... (nm) by
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Try refreshing the page. (nm) by
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Have I mentioned that you're awesome? Because you are. (nm) by
on 2013-04-29 12:38:00 UTC
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Pokémon Showdown by
on 2013-04-28 23:20:00 UTC
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Ever want to have a Pokémon battle, but there isn't anyone in your area you can play against?
Well, fret no more! From the dark corners of the Internet comes Pokémon Showdown, an online battle simulator that allows you to build a team, choose your Pokémon's moves and abilities, and have any kind of battle you want!
You can play it on the web or download it here:
http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/ -
Somehow Pokemon passed me by as a child by
on 2013-04-29 17:56:00 UTC
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So to the interwebs. I'm using the same name as here and am frankly awful.
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That....did not go well. by
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Thanks Voyd, though. Found a guy to battle and that was pretty awesome!
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Another battler, eh? by
on 2013-04-28 23:26:00 UTC
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I'm on Pokemon Showdown. There, I go by the alias genius11433. Feel free to challenge me if you find me.
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Hmm... by
on 2013-04-28 23:23:00 UTC
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I might look at this, but not right now.
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And now for the moment you've all been waiting for: by
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Witness the Multiverse Monitor rise once more from the depths of oblivion, regenerating once more from a tabloid into a shiny magazine!
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*Applauds* by
on 2013-05-08 12:03:00 UTC
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You did a much better job than I did, believe me. Well done!
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Just like what hS said... by
on 2013-05-08 18:13:00 UTC
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The New MM's going for a more journalistic approach, which means there's more truths and less speculation. It's kinda inspired by three years of a TIME Magazine subscription, but that's a different story.
I enjoyed the Tabloid MM a lot, for what it's worth. It was entertaining. I'm hoping to preserve a bit of that in the Gossip section of this one, so yeah. -
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Well, all right, I agree if we're talking about the graphic design and layout work (but then again, the latter is due to it being a PDF rather than HTML...).
But the content? I don't think you can even compare the two. Your Multiverse Monitor was a tabloid, and as a tabloid it worked brilliantly - it was filled with filthy lies from cover to cover. :P This version is a magazine, and again, as a magazine it works brilliantly - it's pretty and informative. But it doesn't have the off-the-wall gossip-rag vibe yours did - because it's not supposed to. Saying one is better is like comparing apples and submarines.
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You know what they say... by
on 2013-05-08 21:19:00 UTC
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A submarine a day keeps the doctor away.
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Unless you're Soviet. Then he shows up in it. (nm) by
on 2013-05-08 22:43:00 UTC
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Awesome (nm) by
on 2013-05-02 13:54:00 UTC
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Fantastic! (nm) by
on 2013-05-02 04:10:00 UTC
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By the way... by
on 2013-05-02 18:08:00 UTC
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...what program did you use to design that? Photoshop, or something else? I always have trouble finding the right application for that kind of thing.
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Well, sorta. by
on 2013-05-03 06:32:00 UTC
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For the pictures I used Photoshop, and then added text in InDesign.
Basically I have no clue how to properly manipulate InDesign's scanty photomanipulation tools, so I just do Photoshop and create a background image, place it into InDesign, and slap text all over it there. It's a bit tedious, but Photoshop won't give you spiffy lines to show where to line up your text, and InDesign is bad about actually editing images on there (imo, anyway. they need a new colour picker). -
That was brilliant by
on 2013-05-01 21:54:00 UTC
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So much respect and cookies for putting that together,
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*claps* Marvelous, marvelous! (nm) by
on 2013-05-01 05:50:00 UTC
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So shiny. by
on 2013-05-01 03:42:00 UTC
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I'm really impressed with the layout of it - it seemed like a real magazine. And, of course, the articles. So serious, yet, being PPC, so funny. This balance of magazine format and PPC craziness is so awesome. I kind of feel bad that I didn't help, but GDocs was being annoying (read: I knew nothing, and didn't want to touch it).
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Wow! Nice! (nm) by
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Dear Agent: by
on 2013-04-30 18:38:00 UTC
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If you think two colleagues having lunch together in a crowded little cafe is something to be construed as subtext, you need your head examined. Fortunately, I happen to know just the place. I'll see you in session.
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Simply wonderful! by
on 2013-04-30 16:48:00 UTC
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That was wonderful! Can't wait for the next issue, once I get my agents in line I might like to contribute at some point. The only thing was I had a horrible time figuring out how to read the "Simply Magical" article. It appears to read in Manga fashion (columns read right to left) on the first page, and switch to American fashion (columns read left to right) on the second page. And I'm not sure that the first column on the second page is next after the first column on the first page, but it could also come after the second column on the first page. I appear to be the only one that had this problem, so maybe it's just me, but I thought I would point it out... ^^; The article does make sense no matter what order the middle three columns (seeing as there are two that either have a definite beginning or end place for the article) are read in, so it's not a huge issue...
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It's actually top, left, right on first page. (nm) by
on 2013-04-30 21:20:00 UTC
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It's...beautiful... by
on 2013-04-30 16:11:00 UTC
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*sheds a single, graceful tear*
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*points and starts screaming hysterically* by
on 2013-04-30 17:29:00 UTC
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SUE! SUE! SUE! SUE! SUE! SU--
*several minutes later* Ok. I'm ok now. I think. Sorry. Too much badfic translation, you know how it is. I know you're not a Sue *pats* ...you aren't, right? *suspicious look*
(Hey, it's Dawn. Yeah, that Dawn. I've had to take over; DawnFire's not really up to writing right now. And I'm a bit bored, so here we are!)
(I'm a bit worried, really. She keeps on looking at the Blackout Interlude document and grinning. It's kind of unnerving, especially since I can't remember anything past realizing the Winchesters has formed their own group. I mean, I know it turned out alright, but I have no real idea what happe--)
Hey, it's DawnFire again! I've regained coherence :) With that said, I think that's pretty much all I have to say for now...
~DF (and Dawn. Why won't you let me see that docume--)
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*not a Sue* by
on 2013-04-30 21:16:00 UTC
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XD Can't wait for more Blackout. You should probably start a new thread so people will be able to find it...
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*is apologetic* by
on 2013-04-30 21:23:00 UTC
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Another new thread? I was thinking I'd just hijack other Blackout threads, but...that may end up being necessary. *sigh* No idea...
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Well, by
on 2013-04-30 23:22:00 UTC
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Your original thread has vanished from the front page, and is thus harder to find for casual readers. Or those too lazy to go back a page *coughwhatareyoutalkingaboutdon'tgivemethatlookcough*
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True... by
on 2013-05-01 07:40:00 UTC
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I suppose I might as well make a new thread, with links back to the previous parts in the old threads. That is, once I've finished part 4 and can actually post it.
Heh. *look?whatlook?I'mnotgivingyouanylooks.YouthinkIgiveoutlooksforfree?*
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^_^ by
on 2013-05-01 14:18:00 UTC
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Or you could hijack another thread...
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Come back later; we're confused now. by
on 2013-05-01 15:26:00 UTC
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*oh,yeah?wellitseemswe'vemadeamistakenowgivemebackthatlookifyouaren'tgoingtopayforit!andhandleitcarefully--youbreakit,i'llmakeyoubuyitwithcookiesandsomethingelsethat'scurrentlyundecided*
Great, now I don't know what to do anymore. I suppose I'll wait until I've finished part 4, and then see if there are even any Blackout threads still on the first page. If there are, I'll hijack one; if not, I'll post a new one. /logic
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Okay. by
on 2013-05-01 21:07:00 UTC
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Good luck with Part 4.
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This is fantastic (nm) by
on 2013-04-30 14:46:00 UTC
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Love it! by
on 2013-04-30 10:18:00 UTC
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Although, first of all, one thing: I found a mini! Say hello to Hercules Poirot! Lovely little fellow; no idea what his form is, but he seems quite nice, very smart. No doubt he follows in the footsteps of his canon character, the great detective, M. Hercule Poirot. Quite a lovely mini; I may keep him, if I can find out what he's supposed to look like (amorphous minis are a bit disconcerting to look at).
Second...ok, I brought this on myself. I'm retconning something about the Reader. Unfortunately, this is currently spoilers, so I can't actually clarify until I've reached the reveal in the Blackout Interlude, but suffice it to say that I'll probably contribute an article dealing with the subject to the next MM issue, if that's alright.
Other than that...so. Much. Fun. I love this XD
Also: Castiel wandered by the Cryptomusic Archives? I shall make a note of that.
All in all: amazing. Well done, everyone!
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... oops. Sorry, M. Poirot. (nm) by
on 2013-04-30 11:10:00 UTC
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I'm sure it's alright. by
on 2013-04-30 13:08:00 UTC
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Although, actually, there's so much goodfic that this little guy might be the first recorded Poirot mini! Seriously, I've been looking for badfic, and it keeps being goodfic. It's kind of annoying, in a wonderful sort of way.
(Hercules says--somehow--that it's quite all right, and he doesn't mind having gained sentience; he would like a form, though. To that end, he's encouraging me on my search for Hercule Poirot badfic.)
...you know, I'm really becoming rather fond of this mini. I do hope I can find a badfic so we can find out what he looks like...
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Wow. That's really good. by
on 2013-04-30 08:05:00 UTC
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(I noticed one typo, way down in the Editorial - "We hear the Flowers have turned a deaf ear - if they have ears - o stuff about the Blackout")
I like the fact that you've managed to separate it from the Tabloid version - the gossip is clearly defined as gossip, rather than just being, well, everything. Even your 'Flower Conspiracy' article managed to draw in all the viewpoints.
Of course, now we have to split the Wiki page...
(Any idea when the next edition's coming out? I don't recommend monthly, it turned into a full-time job for Starwind)
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Oh bluh, I would fix that... by
on 2013-04-30 08:09:00 UTC
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but then I'd have to reexport it, and reupload it, and it's not something I want to do at midnight with a debate tomorrow in class that I've been procrastinating on.
I did try to go for a more journalistic angle, although tidbits of gossip pop in and out of other articles as well. And um... I had this joke with my Christianne several years ago of a PPC Daily (Actually Monthly) magazine, so it would probably be more along the lines of Multiverse Monitor Monthly (actually bi-monthly) or something.
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Oh, and before I forget: by
on 2013-04-30 07:09:00 UTC
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Huge amounts of thanks to SeaTurtle, Sergio Turbo, and hS for contributing to the cause. If anyone wants a text-only version, we'll gladly oblige with a google doc or something.