I had to write a 200+ word sentence for English class, and I thought perhaps since I mention the Ironic Overpowers you guys might be interested in reading it (and admittedly I do have the ulterior motive of learning more about the I O because I'm not quite sure if I understand them). Here it is:
*In the trope-riddled multiverse of the PPC, the Ironic Overpowers are a real force; for example, quite often, some poor, bewildered agent lost in the labyrinthine halls of the Flowers’ bureaucracy will say, loudly and obviously: “I really hope I don’t stumble into my partner who has conveniently went out on a walk with an Ariadne-like string marking the way home to our Response Center, yes, I truly, desperately hope that doesn’t happen” and then will watch with satisfaction as their partner, a bit weary or perhaps irritated with them (as partners are nearly always irritated at something), rounds the nearest conveniently placed corner with a ball of string in their hand, wondering dourly why they decided to set out in the first place; however, we must not for a moment assume that because they can be manipulated to be useful that the Ironic Overpowers are indeed a benevolent force; on the contrary, they’re known to be quite annoyingly malicious, like a cousin who re-gifts one’s present to oneself knowingly or perhaps a sibling who tells you to fetch something which is closer to them than to you just because they can or the English teachers who insist that the I comes before the E when we can all see that the teachers (and the dictionary, and the other dictionary, and the thesaurus, and google search) are clearly wrong; no, indeed, the Ironic Overpowers can take any statement out of your mouth and twist it to their advantage (whatever that is) in the most horrifying ways—imagine, for instance, that you have just come back from a truly arduous mission in which you had to trek for several swampy miles in order to keep up with your supernatural target before you assassinated it; imagine that you are covered in muck from your toes to the roots of your hair; imagine that perhaps your target preyed on your partner’s favorite character and as a result he or she harps mercilessly on every typo in your charge list in the throes of deep depression; even in this harrowing case, the Ironic Overpowers are quite willing, nay, happy to take your groan of “Ye gods, I’m really looking forward to a shower” and viciously subvert it with their incomprehensible might to make your console go BEEEEEEEP and send you off on yet another mission to the Sahara without even a pause for breath or perhaps a soldier’s bath of a bucket of water dumped over the head; therefore, when walking in the PPC Headquarters, do be careful about everything you say and do, since not only do the Ironic Overpowers love to prey on your statements made in times of hope and joy but they are also willing to use the statements made in times of deep, dark, terrible despair, especially the ones that begin with such phrases as “Surely it can’t get any (insert adjective here) than this”, “At least he didn’t (insert verb here)”, and/or “This has to be the worst (insert noun here) of my life”, and as such, you must always respect the Ironic Overpowers even when not in the multiverse, as they reside in our universe of monotheists, atheists and polytheists with only partially decreased power and the fatally deceptively innocuous name of “Instant Karma”; consequently, do not scoff at my tales of woe, thinking that they have nothing to do with you, but rather, as a acolyte of great understanding and worth, take my warning to heart and do not abuse the existence of the Ironic Overpowers or speak lightly of them, as their power is far-reaching and their malevolence immense, and if you do so they may choose to do something bad to you, like override your automatic reluctance to ramble and loose your inner writer, which, of course, is rather like an untrained puppy that wants nothing more than to run around in circles, claw up your lovely new upholstery and perhaps widdle on the carpet, thus spoiling your merit as a writer in the eyes of your teachers, fellow students, and whatever additional poor blokes try to read your writing and understand it.
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Working the PPC into my English class by
on 2012-02-01 03:43:00 UTC
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Neat by
on 2012-02-01 23:25:00 UTC
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We never got to do those extremely long sentences in my English classes, but it would've been awesome if we did. That looks like great fun.
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Hey Everyone! by
on 2012-02-01 23:47:00 UTC
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There is no law that says you can't write 200+ word sentences outside of English class.
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Pretty amusing. by
on 2012-02-01 17:42:00 UTC
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I'd hate to read it out loud, though. That would take some serious lung capacity.
It also might be funny to send the agents to a fic in the middle of a heavy thunderstorm. "You want a shower? Here, have all the shower you can handle, and a little extra!" -
Well... by
on 2012-02-01 19:39:00 UTC
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I did consider sending them off to an underwater place without scuba equipment, but then decided that was a bit too much. Don't worry, the Sahara is perfectly horrible enough, as it will cause the mud to cake on everything and then turn into dusty stuff. I think.
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Re: Assignment by
on 2012-02-01 16:26:00 UTC
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This is reminding me of the narration in Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain. It's quite clever how you hinted at what the PPC does without coming out and hitting the reader over the head with it.
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Why by
on 2012-02-01 19:35:00 UTC
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My teacher is having us write a "multi-media" paper, which employs over 8 different types of writing. It appears that the odder the method of writing, the better.
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your english class by
on 2012-02-01 15:00:00 UTC
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I can not begin to describe how lucky you are if your English teacher assigns this sort of material. Today, our class read selections from the Elements of Style. AGAIN.
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Elements of Style? by
on 2012-02-01 19:38:00 UTC
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I actually like that book. By someone-or-other White, yes?
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Re: Elements of Style? by
on 2012-02-01 23:22:00 UTC
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our teacher sees the book as a religious text rather than a set of guidelines. I have had a stylistically solid sentence graded down because it violated a rule laid out in the book. There are exceptions to EVERYTHING in the Elements. To make it worse, some rules are contradictory, so you just have to guess which rule she likes rather than apply the rules situationally.
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Oh. by
on 2012-02-01 23:46:00 UTC
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Sounds ... difficult.
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yeah. by
on 2012-02-01 23:54:00 UTC
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I really like writing. SOMEHOW, this teacher managed the impossible: She took one of my favorite pastimes and sucked all the joy out of it. Writing is all about experimentation and variety, not following a rote formula. It's just... arg. You don't want to hear me rant.
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Writing by rote formula is a slow death. by
on 2012-02-04 15:41:00 UTC
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I think this was what I hated most about earlier English classes; everything, everything was by formula. Anyone remember Five Paragraph Essays?
Introduction:summarizeexplain the arguments/statements you wish to make in your paper (one sentence for each body paragraph, plus an Introductory Sentence (a question mark, or something to grab the reader's *interest!), and a transition sentence.
Three Body Paragraphs: make sure your strongest argument/point goes last, for best impression!
Conclusion: restate your introduction, but... stronger.
*Yeah, spoiler alert: unless your reader is also your English teacher, their interest is nil.
The first really good English teacher we had marked down if we had five paragraphs in a paper, just to get us out of the habit. Writing by formula is the best way to strangle someone's voice.
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Re: Writing by rote formula is a slow death. by
on 2012-02-04 16:56:00 UTC
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I would say that sometimes writing by formula can be a good thing, the problem is the degree to which it is required in most high school English classes.
Used well a formula gives shape and allows the writer to focus on other aspects of writing. Often a given formula exists for a reason, for example the inverted pyramid used for news article - in which the important points are stated first and each paragraph contains additional, but less necessary, details exists in part because during WWII (iirc) the reporters couldn't be certain the entire article would make it through, and wanted to be certain the most important parts did.
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Of course... by
on 2012-02-04 17:13:00 UTC
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There is something to be said for knowing how to follow the rules before you decide go about ignoring them. That way, it's an informed choice rather than just ignorance. Strunk and White may not be God, but I know plenty of authors who would benefit from omitting needless words, or understanding why splitting infinitives is a bad idea most of the time, or why ending sentences on prepositions is usually silly. Note, of course, my use of conditional modifiers: these rules don't always apply, but knowing what they mean and when they should be followed is important.
Bear in mind, plenty of badficcers would tell us that sticking to canon and/or using good SPaG stifles their natural voice. {= P
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our class... by
on 2012-02-04 21:01:00 UTC
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You have a point, and I'm all for improving my writing. However, Elements is only the latest in a series of these "learn to write" books we've been subjected to. What's irritating isn't that we're being educated on writing, but rather that we haven't actually written that much. Knowing the basic rules of writing is helpful, but in order to learn when and how to apply them you need lots of practice and criticism - neither of which our class is getting.
Moreover, the class is not "Creative Writing" or something. It's English, and high school English classes generally contain some literature. This entire year, we've only read two books-- A Separate Peace and Slaughterhouse Five. -
Re: Of course... by
on 2012-02-04 17:35:00 UTC
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This reminds me of something from one of the Discworld Books (I'm pretty sure it's The Thief of Time) in which one of the characters says that maybe "Rules exist so you think before breaking them."
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I enjoy a good rant, and catharsis is important. (nm) by
on 2012-02-02 14:33:00 UTC
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Oh no, rant if you so desire... (nm) by
on 2012-02-02 00:59:00 UTC
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Re: Working the PPC into my English class by
on 2012-02-01 11:53:00 UTC
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Well, I laughed. It's strange how such long, long sentences only seem to turn up either a) in bad writing or b) in high-school and college literature.
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Uh, no. by
on 2012-02-01 17:35:00 UTC
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There are some excellent, really fantastic authors who make great use of such long sentences, and I promise you this, they do not turn up only in bad writing or in high school and college literature.
It's really close minded for you to say that, since if you think that long sentences like that only pop up in those contexts, you need to read more, because while styles come and go, writing off works that have extremely long sentences in them as being only bad writing or the focus of high school and college classes is simply incorrect; even then, you see, there's a massively wide variation, especially once you hit university where thinking in terms of 'books I read in class that I would never read otherwise'- which is what you've implied there, with that statement of yours- is false because schools with a wide swath of writing classes or English classes have such a wide variety to them, to the point that in one semester alone I read (for three different classes, mind) Roberto Bolano's Amulet, John Milton's Paradise Lost, William Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale, and Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness; I could have, if I wanted, taken a course on modern fiction, or get into a YA literature class, but then I would've had to have read Stephanie Meyer's Twilight*- which would also be considered 'college literature' due to its use in an upper level setting as something to read and examine (which on its own sorts out the illusion that 'high school and college literature' are things no average person would ever be caught reading).**
Here's a brilliant long sentence (in its passage, for sake of some context) from Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian or The Evening Redness in the West***:
Already you could see through the dust on the ponies' hides the painted chevrons and the hands and rising suns and birds and fish of every device like the shade of old work through sizing on a canvas and now too you could hear above the pounding of the unshod hooves the piping of the quena, flutes made from human bones, and some among the company had begun to saw back on their mounts and some to mill in confusion when up from the offside of those ponies there rose a fabled horde of mounted lancers and archers bearing shields bedight with bits of broken mirrorglass that cast a thousand unpieced suns against the eyes of their enemies. A legion of horribles, hundreds in number, half naked or clad in costumes attic or biblical or wardrobed out of a fevered dream with the skins of animals and silk finery and pieces of uniform still tracked with the blood of prior owners, coats of slain dragoons, frogged and braided cavalry jackets, one in a stovepipe hat and one with an umbrella and one in white stockings and a bloodstained wedding-veil and some in headgear of cranefeathers or rawhide helmets that bore the horns of bull or buffalo and one in a pigeontailed coat worn backwards and otherwise naked and one in the armor of a spanish conquistador, the breastplate and pauldrons deeply dented with the old blows of mace or sabre done in another country by men whose very bones were dust and many with their braids spliced up with the hair of other beasts until they trailed upon the ground and their horses' ears and tails worked with bits of brightly colored cloth and one whose horse's whole head was painted crimson red and all the horsemen's faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hillarious, all howling in a barbarous tongue and riding down upon them like a horde from a hell more horrible yet that the brimstone land of christian reckoning, screeching and yammering and clothed in smoke like those vaporous beings in regions beyond right knowing where the eye wanders and the lip jerks and drools.
That main sentence, and what it's supposed to show, has been burned into my mind**** for over six years now.
*Yes, Twilight is now considered something acceptable to read and analyze in university in a class for credit and a grade and not for fun.
**253 words, ladies, gentlemen, and starfish.
***Please do not read if you are overly sensitive to violence. Or a lack of quotation marks for speech. Or a lack of apostrophes for contractions. Or hoping for nice things to happen. No, seriously.
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Eh, not really my thing. by
on 2012-02-03 09:39:00 UTC
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I just find it hard to parse, I guess. I'd rather have it broken up so I don't need to keep track of a hundred half-finished thoughts.
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Not close-minded - just not being serious by
on 2012-02-02 12:21:00 UTC
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I'm sorry. I'm perfectly aware that long sentences don't always pop up in those two contexts, and I understand that I was making a very, very broad generalization. At the time I was thinking both of the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest, and of some really good books I've read in class which happened to include long sentences. I was attempting a joke, which proves once again that my sense of humor doesn't translate well at all from my head to my keyboard. In the future, I'll try to clarify things a little more.
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I thought it was funny by
on 2012-02-02 18:04:00 UTC
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It also had the added benefit of showing us all what JulyFlame's berserk button is.
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One of them, at least. by
on 2012-02-03 04:49:00 UTC
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She has a lot of them, as you'll learn if you stick around long enough.
Ah-hem. I'm not entirely sure who posted this, but I'm rather certain that it wasn't Aster. The IP address, which is normally located right under the name listed above, doesn't even come close to Aster's usual ISP, and I have other reasons for doubting it as well. (The original IP was 81.2.197.33 - unfortunately, in adding this note, I've changed that record) I'm just appending this to keep subsequent conversation sensical - if it happens again, I will straight-up delete it.
I am watching.
-The Nameless Admin
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Yeah, this wasn't me. (nm) by
on 2012-02-03 16:38:00 UTC
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Ai. Sorry Aster. by
on 2012-02-03 16:33:00 UTC
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I really am. This was pretty obviously an attack on both you and July, and I'm really sorry for not checking before going after you for it.
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Re: Ai. Sorry Aster. by
on 2012-02-03 17:00:00 UTC
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You are right to be angry, VM. This was, from what I can tell, done intentionally by someone with a knowledge of the past tensions in the community. So, it was either a very patient troll or someone from the community (much as I hate to think about that). Why someone from the community (if it wasn't a troll) would want to start more fighting and drama, I have no clue.
Never thought I'd say this but, let's hope we have a troll.
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I didn't think July would call someone close-minded. *whew*
But a troll of that much... thoughtfulness? It scares me. -
*successfully baffled* (nm) by
on 2012-02-04 23:19:00 UTC
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...did I do it again? by
on 2012-02-04 23:27:00 UTC
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Yes, I did. Wow, I'm really out-doing myself today. Third foot-in-mouth today, and only one of them was on purpose.
Forgive me, I'm going to need another one of those explanations.
Why... are people saying there's a troll, again? I thought it... oh, bah humbuggery.
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I posted. by
on 2012-02-04 23:46:00 UTC
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Then mPoet posted a comment that was somewhat thoughtless.
Then someone posted as Aster a comment that was almost but not quite an outright attack.
Then someone went 'wait! That's not Aster, look at the IPs!'
Then Data added 'someone tried to join the chatroom while pretending to be me, except I was already in there'.
The last two items are why people are suspecting/hoping there is a troll rather than someone trying to purposefully be a saboteur in a community of which they are a member. -
Again, thanks. by
on 2012-02-04 23:54:00 UTC
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I'll try to pay better attention in the future.
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on 2012-02-04 21:47:00 UTC
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I'm sorry July, I spoke without thinking.
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That's not Aster. by
on 2012-02-03 08:48:00 UTC
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Not unless she changed her IP address within about four hours of her last post.
Also supporting the "It's not Aster" theory is that someone showed up on the IRC around the same time using my name, while i was already online. Possibly same person. -
This stopped being cool. by
on 2012-02-03 08:06:00 UTC
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Calling the reaction a berserk button was entirely uncalled for. If the term was in reference to July's lengthy sentence, she wrote that way deliberately as illustration, rather than any sense of uncontrolled or thoughtless rage, as the word implies. The description is thoroughly unwarranted.
If it was intended as being used flippantly, it is just as unwarranted, but you also need to remember to show some sensitivity. We can be silly here, but think carefully before claiming anything about someone else's personality.
Furthermore, I find it somewhat galling that someone could find humor in the idea of deliberately pushing anything that might upset another Boarder.
However:
Rule 1: Treat others with respect.
Rule 3: 'This sort of goes along with Number 2 . . . No Flames Allowed! (The definition of flame used here is "A verbal attack/insult on an individual.") It's one thing to say "I don’t agree with your opinion," to a person, but entirely inappropriate to say, "You're such a flipping idiot for thinking that, you flipping moron!"'
Rule 11: 'If you have a problem with a fellow PPC Boarder, please try to work it out in private emails. Don't turn the Board into a free-for-all Flamefest.'
These first two were, to some degree, already coming into play with mP's comment.
Aster? You openly, on the Board, drew attention to and supported a comment with seriously derogatory connotations, about another Boarder's expressing of her opinion. Not only that, her opinion was given thoughtfully, with clarity and precision, and with the kind of language that lively debate should have. Not only did you support the description of 'berserk,' however flippantly it was intended, your comment added to an entirely unnecessary attack on July's willingness to speak her mind. Your word choice strongly conveys a sense that it is a trial to live through those opinions which must be endured. You have no cause to treat another Boarder's opinions that way, especially not in public.
As if that weren't enough, I am going to do what just about everyone will consider that most heinous of crimes: mentioning the past. Given history, clearly you two have problems. You've aired that from an offensive position on the Board itself. That's rule 11; mP's post combined with your response creates a personal attack which breaks rules 1 and 3. Even if you hadn't managed to effectively breach multiple Board principles in a single sentence, there's a far more troubling aspect to your behavior.
Not six months ago the Board had an intense discussion about certain behavior in the IRC, behavior of which you were explicitly a part. The discussion was sparked specifically because of behavior which left July feeling marginalized, disrespected, and used as an acceptable target for degradation.
You're doing it again. Only this time? You've done it on the Board.
If you say, in your next post, that it was all done thoughtlessly and not intended as such, guess what? That kind of thoughtlessness actively hurts people. Moreover, this time it actively hurts a Boarder who has given so much love to this community, and who has been specifically targeted by actions you took part in.
If it was thoughtless, I'm not sure if I'm more disgusted than before or not.
I know I'm also airing my private problem with you in public--but you've bullied a Boarder before. You've bullied July before. And you just did, again, in public. There will never be a day that I have ethical problems calling you out for that. -
That was more than a mite uncalled for. (nm) by
on 2012-02-03 05:44:00 UTC
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on 2012-02-01 19:37:00 UTC
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That was a very...vivid description. Whew.
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^This is not me. by
on 2012-02-04 23:08:00 UTC
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I'm pretty sure.
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^turns out it was. by
on 2012-02-04 23:10:00 UTC
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Well, I hadn't had a open-foot-insert-mouth moment yet this month. So there, there's two of them now. *ah, yes, I love that boot-leather taste*
Sigh. At least the email notification system pointed that out before someone else did.
But why would I comment "that was a very...vivid description" on my own comment?
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Look at the tier it is on. by
on 2012-02-04 23:29:00 UTC
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It was in reply to my post there.
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Thank you. (nm) by
on 2012-02-04 23:30:00 UTC
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Sue Page Cleanup Results: The Summary by
on 2012-02-01 16:55:00 UTC
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Guvnor is busy with school, so I volunteered to pull together the votes from all the Sue and Stu pages.
The Sue/Stu pages were broken down into four categories: Delete, Keep, Keep with changes, and Unique Cases. I'm not including any discussion on Delete and Keep, but you can check the wiki page if you're curious. I think I have everyone sorted, let me know if I missed someone.
(I don't know how to do umlauts on this board, so those will be missing)
Delete:
Akaia
Alanna (Sue)
Alex (A-Team Sue)
Alexander Bewes
Amy MacGyver
Andelko T’Gonda
Andrantiel
Anna-Belle Dialer
Annie
Aster Griffith
Azelynn
Becky (A-Team)
Brooke Monica Gibbs DiNozzo
Bunny
Caden O’Connor
Calca Avis
Candice Speedle
Carina T’Gonda
Cassandra Thompson
Christina Duke
Cordelia Driscol
Dawn (Sue)
Destini Star
Dragona
Dyzl ro’Jinte
Elena Russo
Elizabeth Bennet (Narnia Sue)
Emily (Young Wizards Sue)
Emily Smith
Erik Servint
Evelyn Eliza
Felicity Brown
Forlay (Sue)
Fraya Montag
Heather Draconius
Ice (A-Team)
Jack the Wolf
Jackson Earl Simon
Jayson
Jessica Luke
Kana (Gary Stu)
Kanami Kimura
Katherine May Gibbs
Kay-Cee Carter
Kayla “Kay” Troy
Kelly (MacGyver)
Kirox, Lykas, and Lunavier
Kithra (Sue)
Ky-Wynn Ekiee Bethia Agosto Kai-Isteea-Calldwell-Bell-Renno-Angelo
Leah
Leslie Kendall
Lossenlindeiel
Mackenzie Skyler Harkness McPhee
Matt Krueger
Megan Dumbledore
Miley (Doctor Who)
Morgain
Morgan Jacobs
Mothiel
Nadia
Narnia “Nia” Evenshire
Penny Smith
Peony (Narnia Sue)
Poke-Mon
Rinj
Robyn Austin
Roma Lupin
Rosebay Willowherb
Ruby Summers
Sarah Janeway
Sean Brock
Shane Miller
Shitty-Ping
Sofia Pinedale
Special Agent Melanie Carlton (Sue)
Suichi Sanders
Sunlight Moonbeam Starsong Gale
Susan (A-Team)
Tala Wolcott (Sue)
Toulouse
Villa
Zain
Keep:
Aislinn
Akasha
Alex (Tolkienverse Sue)
Alexis
Andromielle Zinnia
Anirana
Archir the Emerald
Ariuella Shadowfox
Aveline Vagan
Bob (Stu)
Branwyn Luck
Candace Van Allen
Celebrian (badfic)
Charlie (Stu)
Damien
Deminica
Elessario
Elvira Flameheart Magiseer
Emma Silverblade
Gem Stoned
Gemini Stone
Gwendolyn Elizabeth Huntingdon
Hanae
Honesah Hoononee Keemo
Isabella Pierce (Sue)
Jaycacia Thornbyrd
Kana Horrendous the Third
Kayla Shepard (Sue)
Kivan Silverblade
Laura (Sue)
Laurel (Sue)
Link (Sue)
Lucy-Elissa
Maddie and Terrah
Marissa Amber Flores Picard
Matrix (Avatar)
Megan Shepard-Gibbs
Mithril Starlight
Norman Jaden
Pangaea
Phoenix (Sue)
Princess Rikai
Robecca
Sakhmet Black
Serenity (Sue)
Silavren
Solaris
Spidey3000
Sue!Arwen
T.C.
The Sisterhood
Thunder 2
Twila Topaz Cullen
Keep with work:
Aeryn: needs a rewrite
Alumia: needs a rewrite
Balrog Sue: suggested that the page be renamed to “Harrow” (the Sue’s actual name)
Deez: needs a rewrite
John Freeman: needs working links
OOP-937: needs a rewrite
Parker DiNozzo: needs a rewrite. It was suggested that Brooke Monica Gibbs DiNozzo (this Sue’s mother, and a secondary Sue) be added to the page.
Sairalinde: needs a rewrite
Springfield (Mary Sue): needs a rewrite
Terri Baltimore: should be merged with the Gemini Stone page
Unique cases:
Maeluiwen: should be moved. Suggestions from the last Sue cleanup thread were Civilians in HQ and/or Reformed Sues.
Rheim son of Sirrus: this is an unusual mission, see the Talk:Slain Mary Sues page
Sarah (CCS Sue): Sergio Turbo (page author) says he’s OK with deleting this one. If the board agrees, it’s going on the Delete list. -
Good work, you guys! by
on 2012-02-03 14:48:00 UTC
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I'm impressed with all of you for sticking with this and making it happen. {= )
I don't have anything to say about your decisions, because I think they're fine, but I do have some suggestions for the removal process. For starters, I believe some folks will be interested in saving some of the content to be deleted, so what I think makes sense is to put the {{Delete}} template on the pages in question, or even the {{Speedydelete}} one, and leave them up for a month or so. Meanwhile, we wiki-editing types can use the "What links here" tool and start cleaning up pages with links to the CFDs, and relocate information worth relocating—perhaps a link to X Sue page becomes a link to the mission in question in the References section, for instance. Also, I think we'll want to remove any associated images before deleting the actual page, so we don't end up with stray images hanging about (unless they become examples on some other page, perhaps).
So, that's my two cents. I may also take a hand in re-writing some of the ones that need it, but I don't know when.
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on 2012-02-03 18:52:00 UTC
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I already talked to Aster about the links thing. And yeah, leaving then up for a bit is probably a good idea.
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Darn. by
on 2012-02-02 21:22:00 UTC
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I was still hoping Heather Draconius would be kept. *goes off to save the page before it gets deleted*
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An especially hilarious part of that charge list: by
on 2012-02-21 20:55:00 UTC
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"For making up a love’s first kiss killing curse, and forcing Belle to kiss all the men in France when that equals to over twenty-one million men between fifteen and sixty-four."
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Related topic - Blending Sues by
on 2012-02-02 16:47:00 UTC
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Two of the Sues we reviewed were in the same mission, namely this one: http://ppc.timescale.nl/05NCIS.html
Basically, the Sues were so clichéd and unoriginal that the Word World couldn't tell them them apart and the agents were thrown from one fic to the other. The Sues themselves weren't very notable (well, duh) but I found the phenomenon of blending Sues interesting enough to warrant a page of its own. I might also have been careless enough to volunteer to do it ...
I would very much appreciate a little help to get the page of the ground.
Araeph pointed me to one of her missions, in which the lack of originality also caused a partial merger. http://uncommon-comma.livejournal.com/992.html
I would like to know if there have been any other missions like these two.
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Re: Related topic - Blending Sues by
on 2012-02-02 19:46:00 UTC
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Actually, I was planning on working this into a future mission. Two fics by the same person, where one Sue is the daughter of Iron Man and the other is the daughter of CSI's Mac Taylor.
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Related? by
on 2012-02-02 18:01:00 UTC
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We already have a page on the phenomenon of Ficverse Fusion: when two badfics are so similar that they begin to blend into each other. Maybe that can help you in your quest to document this phenomenon.
Tangentially related: I am fairly sure that the reason why the PPC doesn't spork many 'High School AU' badfics because (aside from just being boring) they all are so incredibly similar that they blur together and if you've sporked one you have sporked them all. Maybe that, too, is related to your idea? -
Definitely related by
on 2012-02-04 09:36:00 UTC
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But the NCIS mission wasn't a complete fusion; the agents simply got bounced from fic to fic. It might still count as a partial Ficverse Fusion or the FF might be one of several possible results of bland Sues or fics.
*scratches head* It's kind of hard to make generalizations when there are only two documented cases to go by. I predict a page full of 'possibly' and 'more data needed'. -
Merged Sues? (nm) by
on 2012-02-02 16:57:00 UTC
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Or Merged Marys? (nm) by
on 2012-02-04 00:34:00 UTC
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Are these Sues up for adoption? What is this? (nm) by
on 2012-02-01 19:41:00 UTC
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A cleanup on the Wiki. by
on 2012-02-01 19:55:00 UTC
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Without set standards of what should be on the wiki and what doesn't have to be, over time the amount of pages for slain Mary Sues has increased to the point where there are just too many of them. Sues that are less notable, are not part of the original series, or are better explained by reading the missions they belong to than reading a summary are subject to be removed from the wiki.
This has been a months-long project by Guvnor, Antigone, and others. I'm really surprised you didn't hear of it with the periodic threads on it. O_o; -
To address your confusion by
on 2012-02-01 20:30:00 UTC
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A) Thanks.
B) I've been gone for a bit. Just returned a few weeks ago.
C) I appear to be perpetually confused, but I have next to no qualms about asking dumb questions. I'd rather understand and feel silly than not understand at all. -
Proper order in things is often a mystery to me as well... (nm) by
on 2012-02-01 20:43:00 UTC
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An explanation by
on 2012-02-01 19:51:00 UTC
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These are Sues and Stus that have been dealt with in missions. It was decided that we didn't need all of these Sue pages on the Wiki, so a committee was formed to evaluate each Sue and make recommendations as to which pages should be kept, which re-written, and which deleted or combined with another page.
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Additional question. by
on 2012-02-01 20:28:00 UTC
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I see. So, if I wrote a mission and killed a Sue, where would I go to see if it was necessary to make a Wiki page for her/him? What's the criteria?
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Re: Additional question. by
on 2012-02-01 20:59:00 UTC
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The board voted to have pages for "notable Sues/Stus" only.
Original Series is notable by default, as are Sues from Legendary Badfics. For the rest, it boiled down to "does this Sue stand out for some reason?". A mission that's just another Legomance doesn't need a Sue page, but we voted to keep the Pegacorn who had a child by Legolas. -
Still working on that last one. by
on 2012-02-01 20:42:00 UTC
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We/they (As a wikiperson I'm not directly doing this project but I may be pressing the 'delete page' button a lot in the near future) haven't decided on the criteria yet. Safe to say, it's a question that they'd probably serve the whole community before pushing it on anybody.
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Okay, thanks for being the willing answer-person. :) (nm) by
on 2012-02-01 23:45:00 UTC
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Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 15:02:00 UTC
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- I will not get into a brawl within a hundred meters of Discord's statue.
- However strong the spell is now, I do not want to take the risk.
1379. I will not address Tisroc Rabadash as "Rabid Ass". This is for my own safety.
1380. I will not engineer a meeting between any G4 pony and any incarnation of theirs from a previous generation.
1381. I will not engineer a meeting between G1 Applejack and Derpy Hooves.
- Because the resulting disaster will probably lay waste to Dream Valley and Equestria both.
1382. I will not block Voldemort's path with a pile of rotten banana peels.
- No matter how amusing the ensuing pratfall would be.
1383. I am not allowed to portal anyone of Durin's line to D'ni.
- The Balrog is right out.
1384. I will not make Fluttershy cry.
1385. I will not use Calvin's Duplicator on myself.
1386. I will not mix up Mrs. Cake from Ankh-Morpork with Mrs. Cake from Ponyville.
1387. Under no circumstances am I to portal Discord to the Enterprise D, Voyager, or to Deep Space Nine.
1388. I will not maroon Captain Jack Harkness on H'nemthe.
- I will not get into a brawl within a hundred meters of Discord's statue.
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Re: TIANATDATPPC XXI by
on 2012-02-09 23:51:00 UTC
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- I will not open a worldgate inside a portal.
-- Or mix RA-produced portals with Portal-verse portals.
-- In fact, I will not mix ANY portaling technologies without permission from DoSAT.
-- If I do, I will be responsible for fixing the consequences.
- I will not open a worldgate inside a portal.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-08 08:53:00 UTC
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I will not ask Dean Winchester for a hug. I'll only get a smartass response.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-07 22:48:00 UTC
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-I am not allowed to persuade non-human agents to perform embarrassing actions by passing them off as "human rites of passage". This includes the Macarena, the Tuca Tuca, and the Electric Slide.
--It also includes drinking one's own body weight in anything alcoholic.
--Or reading The Eye of Argon, with or without helium.
-Since it's not confirmed in canon, I am not permitted to test whether nation-tans actually do have their fanon healing factors by hitting them. Particularly since they're likely to hit back, and even the ones who aren't America are probably much stronger than me.
-The Disturbing Acts of Violence Department is called such because they are meant to prevent disturbing acts of violence, not to perform them. -
I'll enumerate when uploading by
on 2012-02-06 18:46:00 UTC
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Number: I will not distract Daring Do when she's navigating a tomb.
Number: I will not claim the One Ring as my own.
- Last time an Agent tried that, Eru Himself had to intervene.
Number: If I come from Carida, I will not attempt revenge on Kyp Durron. -
Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-04 01:53:00 UTC
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I will not attempt to domesticate a Baneling.
--- Not even with a Hive Mind Emulator.
------ Nor shall I hug a Baneling either.
--------- No matter how squishy they look.
I will not use the Dead Ringer to fake my death in HQ.
--- Not even if it is meant to be a joke.
------ Even if it does make a good party trick.
I will not use my partner's Glaceon as an ice pack.
I will not let debeaked headcrabs loose in the hallways.
I will not ÜberCharge anybody who does not have the Über implant and a baboon-sized heart.
--- Except for 'Sues. -
Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-04 00:32:00 UTC
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I will not bring a newbie agent to the Discworld and try to feed them Dibbler's food.
I will not feed CMOT Dibbler's food to *anyone*, for that matter. -
Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC by
on 2012-02-04 00:26:00 UTC
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I will NOT give Alice a bouquet of Poison Joke.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-03 16:43:00 UTC
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- I will not start a sneaking match in HQ between Solid Snake, Sam Fisher and Gabe Logan.
--If I do, I will be held responsible for every instance of Otacon screaming "Snake? Snake? SNAKEEEEEE!" on HQ's speaker network.
-- Finding them to take them back to their own continua would be impossible.
-I will not start a fight between Nanoha Takamachi and Marisa Kirisame either. The ensuing beamspam would prove fatal to HQ, and the ensuing Maintenance rage would prove fatal to me.
-- Nanoha versus RX-78-02 Gundam is right out. Although it would be awesome.
-I am not allowed to hide in a box and startle fellow Agents.
-- Expecially if their home continua is Metal Gear.
- I will not start a sneaking match in HQ between Solid Snake, Sam Fisher and Gabe Logan.
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Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-03 14:38:00 UTC
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-I will not engineer a meeting between either Discord, HIM (from the Powerpuff Girls), The Joker, or Eris (from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy).
--If I do, I am to be held responsible for the chaos that ensues.
---Haruhi Suzumiya is not to be involved either.
-Sir Samuel Vimes is never to meet the Joker.
--Or Chuck.
-I will not paint Alice like a My Little Pony.
--Cutie Marks are right out.
-I will stop playing strip poker with other agents.
--Especially when Agent Luxury is around.
(Sorry about the lack of numbers, I guess you can just add them later... Also, sorry if one or more of these has been used already. It's really hard to keep track of these things... I guess you can remove those, then.) -
Addenum by
on 2012-02-03 14:39:00 UTC
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-Sir Samuel Vimes is never to meet the Joker.
--Or Chuck.
(I meant Dexter. >_
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-03 00:33:00 UTC
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- Just because an agent or canon is a 'My Little Pony' does not mean that they are my little pony.
- I will not smuggle cider to said pony agents for exorbitant profit.
-- I will not smuggle cider to anyone for exorbitant profit.
--- Not even for marginal profit
---- There is no such thing as free cider.
-Species with three fingers are not flipping me off when the point at things.
-I will not give an Alakazam a spork instead of a spoon.
-- I will not give Mewtwo a giant spork in lieu of his giant spoon.
-I am not allowed to jettison Templars from Thedas in the middle of Hogwarts School for Witchcraft and Wizardry.
- I will not attempt to put lipstick on a Turian.
-- I will not attempt to put lipstick on an elf.
--- I will not attempt to put lipstick on anyone who is not myself.
---- Unless they like that sort of thing.
-I am not allowed to give anybody from Farenheit 451 an iPhone.
--or show them Facebook.
-I am not allowed to bring BEN into PPC HQ.
- Just because an agent or canon is a 'My Little Pony' does not mean that they are my little pony.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 23:26:00 UTC
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- Use of a Meme Jukebox to distract canons is not a good idea unless you're good at catching Lolcats.
- I will not introduce any incarnation of any Sherlock Holmes characters to each other.
- I am not allowed to punch Mini McGuinness in the face.
-- No, 'just once' is not valid either.
- The PPC will not be greatly improved by the addition of several hundred strippers.
--No, not even if Luxury said so.
- I am not allowed to take any Talking Horse to Ponyville.
-- I will not introduce Bree to G1 Applejack.
- Balrogs do not make good birthday presents.
-- Minis might, but not actual Balrogs.
- I am not allowed to summon Eris.
-- *No.*
- Use of a Meme Jukebox to distract canons is not a good idea unless you're good at catching Lolcats.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 22:58:00 UTC
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I will not ask Lux if she wants a date, and then hand her the fruit. She'll figure out something kinky to do with it.
I am not allowed to borrow the Wolfram, Huckebein Ship, or any other Nanoha ships that have world-destroying weaponry on them.
--Anything with Arc-en-Ciel capabilities is Right Out.
I will not allow the Vord and the Zerg to meet.
--Luxury is not allowed to spend any time alone with the Marat women of the Horse Tribe
--In fact, let's never let Lux meet any female Marat in any situation.
The Skinwalker from the Dresden Files will not be used as an execution method, for the same reason we don't use Reavers.
I will not disorganize anything belonging to Twilight Sparkle, hide while she finds and fixes it, then repeat until Lesson Zero happens again.
I will not even try to keep Pinkie Pie and Deadpool from meeting--it's not even worth trying anymore. -
Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-08 23:17:00 UTC
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The Escape Tower from Phineas and Ferb, GLaDOS, and HAL 9000 are never to meet.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 18:54:00 UTC
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I will not challenge the Dragonborn to a shouting contest.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 18:50:00 UTC
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Jim Moriarty and Russia must never, ever, ever be allowed to meet.
-The Joker is right out.
I will not confuse the nations from Scandinavia and the World with those from Axis Powers Hetalia.
-If I do so, I will make sure that the two Americas never meet.
-If they do, I will take full responsibility for the resulting hamburger-related destruction.
I will not steal America's glasses while claiming to pick up the Texas Revolution where it left off.
-Seriously, he has super strength. That's just stupid.
Princess Celestia is not the nation-tan of Equestria.
I will refrain from singing "The Nations of the World" in the presence of the Hetalia characters.
-I will also refrain from teaching Italy the Pasta Song from Animaniacs.
-Because Germany will kill me.
I will not attempt to build a monorail in Ponyville, nor will I sing about it. -
Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 17:38:00 UTC
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I will not let Susan Sto Helit take her writing class to a modern state bureau of investigation. (Except for the part where I already did).
I will not ask why everyone is suddenly obsessed with ponies, which are kid-sized, rather than horses, which have a much longer, more interesting history. I will pretend to understand why this is for my own safety.
I will not give new PPC members plastique any more. (I used to, but nobody ever used it.)
I will not let a plot bunny escape. -
Addendum by
on 2012-02-04 23:04:00 UTC
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The reason I will no longer give any new PPC members plastique is because, sadly, it is a waste of money.
Also, I will not show Huck Finn's father to Gibbs. That would be a ... rather one-sided battle. -
Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 16:58:00 UTC
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1388.5 I will not maroon Captain Jack Harkness with Captain Jack Sparrow.
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Re: Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part XXI by
on 2012-02-02 19:05:00 UTC
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I shall not suggest that Agent Alice attend any HQ fancy dress parties as a pony.
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Something Mass Effect related by
on 2012-02-02 17:39:00 UTC
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I figuered that this might interest some people.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115588-Fans-Tear-New-Mass-Effect-Book-to-Shreds - And then there's this by on 2012-02-04 02:17:00 UTC Link to this
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Oh dear... by
on 2012-02-03 03:35:00 UTC
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I'm almost tempted to spork this. Of course, since it's copyrighted material, that would make it impossible to do. So yeah, that won't be happening, but dang it I wish I could. I haven't read it yet, but from looking at the Google Doc with the errors list...
Jesus Christ. Just, Jesus Christ.
Stuff be crazy. -
Re: Something Mass Effect related by
on 2012-02-02 19:00:00 UTC
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I guess it's just more proof that badfic can be found anywhere!
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Wow. by
on 2012-02-02 17:51:00 UTC
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They really did a job on that one. Check out the Google Doc.
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Tech File: Optic Implant by
on 2012-02-02 19:41:00 UTC
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Hey, sorry I haven't been doing much. This is my last semester, and I'm quite busy besides, so life has decided to take me by the throat and hold me for a ten-count.
It has no idea what it's got on its hands. But in the meantime, slowly working on my existing co-op missions and releasing little pieces will have to suffice for my stress-relief small writing.
Speaking of!
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1u59nGCegGycS8cfk0QoS1F_NzLjM__GWOyZef3ZZWHg -
Serious issue with the whole piece. by
on 2012-02-03 17:39:00 UTC
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Concussions do not work that way, nor does how you check for one work that way as well.
I am aware that the main subject of the piece was supposed to be in regards to Narc's optic implants, but the more immediate and serious issue should be checking in regards to if he got a concussion or not.
Checking for a dent in the skull in no way tells you if someone has a concussion or not. A concussion is internal damage directly to the brain. It is not external.
She should be checking for dizziness, confusion, nausea, headaches, weakness, and so on; signs his brain is doing little loop-de-loops like an old harddrive does.
Even then, given that he got a whack to the head hard enough to pop an eyeball out, he should be getting a head scan just to make sure everything is going as it ought.
Guys, do your research.
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Yay! More Narcolepsy! by
on 2012-02-03 03:28:00 UTC
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Narcolepsy has always been a very, very fun character for me, so it's great to see more stuff involving him. This was a fun little interlude...
...also, is it me, or is that a love interest for Narc I see there? ;) -
XD by
on 2012-02-03 17:32:00 UTC
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Not every male-female interaction hints at romance, y;know. :P
Narc seems too fond of science to be going after girls, and Heather's dedicated to her work. They just have similar senses of humour and got on well. -
Re: Tech File: Optic Implant by
on 2012-02-02 20:50:00 UTC
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Always nice to see the non field agents in action. Great suggested piece.
Also I can't help but smile every time Makes Things gets a mention as a reminder he's no longer dead. -
Yay, it's up! by
on 2012-02-02 19:45:00 UTC
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This was a lot of fun to help write. Narc is a favourite of mine, and I got to introduce a new person. :D
Enjoy, y'all!
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HI there by
on 2012-02-04 21:25:00 UTC
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Sorry I've been away. How has everyone been? Can I ask if anything verse shattering has occured?
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You're back! by
on 2012-02-05 21:29:00 UTC
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Have a Holy Grenade Launcher (Holy Grenades not included)
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Heh by
on 2012-02-05 22:12:00 UTC
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which gods conscerated to?
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His Noodleyness, of course! (nm) (nm) by
on 2012-02-05 22:24:00 UTC
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Welcome-back fudge! (nm) by
on 2012-02-05 18:19:00 UTC
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thanks by
on 2012-02-05 19:28:00 UTC
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fudge is always good
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Hi! by
on 2012-02-05 14:27:00 UTC
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Welcome back! Have some chocolate, won't you?
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Thanks by
on 2012-02-05 14:50:00 UTC
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This isn't chili pepper chocolate now is it?
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Have a welcome-back plover! by
on 2012-02-05 04:30:00 UTC
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Let's see: Makes-Things is back from the dead, My Little Pony came up with a continuity that's actually very much worth watching...
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Wow by
on 2012-02-05 14:50:00 UTC
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I knew the second.....
but first.. yay.. drake is very pleased.
wait.. zombie backness, or full revivial?
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Nope, looks like he's okay. by
on 2012-02-05 18:23:00 UTC
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I was quite irritable when asked about it. I quote: "You'd think I would know if I was dead!"
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Sorry, I meant HE was irritable. Not me. (nm) by
on 2012-02-05 18:23:00 UTC
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Re: HI there by
on 2012-02-04 21:59:00 UTC
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Welcome back, have a bright blue boomerang.
Pretty much same old same old around here. -
THanks by
on 2012-02-05 14:51:00 UTC
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Throws the boomerang.
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Re: THanks by
on 2012-02-05 21:13:00 UTC
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Only every third Thursday. They like to keep to pretty patterns.
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Oh, hello there! by
on 2012-02-04 21:43:00 UTC
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Have I already met you? Ah well, have some of my patented hydrophobic water. Now asbestos free!
As for verse shattering events, prepare yourself for the arrival of several... interesting new rooms in HQ. -
Room hint by
on 2012-02-04 23:02:00 UTC
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Read some of our latest threads... particularly the one that mentions ee cummings.
Also, welcome back! Have... *deep thought* *no more deep thought* Chocolate? -
New rooms by
on 2012-02-04 23:03:00 UTC
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Wow... how did they appear?
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Someone just randomly thought of it. by
on 2012-02-04 23:08:00 UTC
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I'm surprised there's not a rush to see who writes them in first.
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Contact info announcement by
on 2012-02-06 02:21:00 UTC
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New contact info: I will now be available, when I am online, for beta or general conversation on mibbit at #Mezzanine on DarkMyst.
This will be the best way to contact me, as I tend to not check my email or wiki talk pages regularly.
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More Shameless Pluggage! by
on 2012-02-06 16:46:00 UTC
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It's that time, again. Halcyon Theatre (the company I am in) is having their monthly variety show tonight, Feb 6th at 7:30 PM (GMT -6). It is Livestreamed, free of charge, so that you can all watch.
Those of you that were around last time seemed to enjoy it, and this month's set looks pretty fun. I am going to attempt to be in the livestream chat live from the event, so watch for that.
The Livestream Warning - I have no idea what the artists will perform. There may be some minor NSFW language.
The Line-up
Videos of past performances
I hope to see some of you there!
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The show is over. by
on 2012-02-07 04:20:00 UTC
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Thanks to those of you who stopped by to check it out. I hope you enjoyed yourselves.
I will plug it again next month. -
The show is going now! by
on 2012-02-07 01:52:00 UTC
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Come watch! http://www.livestream.com/halcyontheatre
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OT: Oh hey, conveniently placed coattails! by
on 2012-02-06 23:06:00 UTC
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...For grabbing hold of, I mean.
By which I mean: I also have pluggage! Unrelated to Phobos' topic otherwise, unfortunately-- though his links, there, are highly recommended. They put on an excellent show, last time. (I won't be able to watch the Livestream this time, have class. But good luck and have fun!)
Anyway, pluggage: Thulcandran, a little writing journal I've set up. I don't think there's any NSFW language, though in the case of a few prompts I may be wrong. The posts are, for the most part, a certain prompt-- an attempt to write five-hundred words in ten minutes. There's a few other things, a longer short story I wrote years ago, some bits of an attempted script, pieces of ongoing works, and other stuff. Just figured, it's writing, you guys like writing, or so I've heard-- therefore, this.
Most of the prompts, as I've said, are dashed off in ten minutes-- so it's quite rough in terms of polish and quality. But I am still looking for keeping things at a standard, and improving, so concrit is appreciated-- if you see something that looks like it's off, or needs work, comments are good! -
GAH! by
on 2012-02-06 22:39:00 UTC
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You picked the night that I had to write two essays! Darn it...
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Sorry. There's always next month. (nm) by
on 2012-02-06 23:02:00 UTC
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True! by
on 2012-02-07 06:33:00 UTC
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Hopefully I don't have something then, too. :P Darn essays getting in the way of fun stuff...
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Badfic by
on 2012-02-06 18:33:00 UTC
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First the badfic
1. The Diamond Dogs meet Angel by Sumofl reviews -- NSFW, NSFB!
Straight up gay sex in this one, folks. Written for a friend in real time over the span of 30 minutes, it's no masterpiece... but I believe it to be the first of it's kind. Diamond dogsXAngel, Yaoi, pwp
My Little Pony - Rated: M - English - Friendship/Angst - Chapters: 1 - Words: 658 - Reviews: 4 - Published: 9-8-11 - Angel
My comment: A rabbit screwing elil!?
2. Princess Molestia » by StreakTheFoxz reviews NSFW, NSFB!!!!!
When an April Foals Day prank goes wrong, it's up to Princess Luna and Twilight Sparkle to stop Princess Celestia from turning them and their friends into Celestia's personal toys!
My Little Pony - Rated: M - English - Suspense/Humor - Chapters: 12 - Words: 34,959 - Reviews: 66 - Updated: 10-18-11 - Published: 7-14-11 - Complete
My comment: Hey? Impostor Celestia? Could you check to make sure the Apollo 11 commemorative plaque hasn't been hit by a meteor?
3. Kentucky Fried Pony by Jeuxdevie reviews
Applejack invited her friends over for a feast at her house. Her grandmother cooked something really special. Little did they know, it was a meal to die for. Not for children!
Rated: T - English - Crime/Horror - Chapters: 1 - Words: 1,081 - Reviews: 16 - Published: 7-29-11 - Applejack & Granny Smith - Complete
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Re: Badfic by
on 2012-02-22 11:06:00 UTC
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Dear sweet Celestia. I read Molestia in its entirety, but not the other two. Yeah, rabbit and elil*? No. Not safe for brain. About as safe for the brain as a hammer to the head. I figure the Dogs might be a little too large for that anyhow. Who in the Nine Hells writes that for a friend?
Mmm, KFP. I wouldn't eat that, as hilarious as the idea would have sounded a couple of months ago. Now it just horrifies me. I see some massive OOC going on there just looking at the summary.
And last but not least, a few of my own comments on Molestia (which now has a sequel- Lunaughty, I kid you not). It was insanity. In a sick, twisted, inexplicable way, it actually had a viable plot- a monster locked away in an otherwise wonderful pony. And then the author took this in completely the wrong direction and tried to make it a clopfic. I died on the inside reading it. Parts of my brain I didn't even know I had started to hurt. My frontal lobe just shut down for a while to cope. At least it's not riddled with bad grammar and Sues like My Immortal. If you really want to think about it, Celestia is only half-replaced. During the moments when she is not her alternate self, she's fairly in character, as are most of the other ponies.
And I have to give them credit, the times they tried for "funny", they got it well, considering the situation. Now I'm finished playing Devil's Advocate though. More railing now.
Why, just why? What the Hellsgates gave them this idea? This should never have happened. It's no Cupcakes or SAM, but it's nasty.
* I'm about a quarter of the way through Watership Down. Brohoof, other reader! -
One to watch (non-MLP) by
on 2012-02-08 18:12:00 UTC
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Genevieve's Story, by BeckettFan03 (M*A*S*H - TV series)
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7810082/1/Genevieves_Story
"This is a sis fic in the early days of the 4077th! Including all of your Swampmen ans the whole gang plus a OC. Genevieve M. is the identical twin of our very own Trapper John and just like him. but what will the gang do when one of their own is hurt?"
Only one chapter so far, but two minis in the first three paragraphs isn't a good sign. -
Good Gravy! by
on 2012-02-08 03:46:00 UTC
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*groan* What's next? A Blueblood/Discord/Big Macintosh threesome chock full of squick, gore, etc.?
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Watch out for the Laws of Narrative Comedy. (nm) by
on 2012-02-08 04:08:00 UTC
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Tawaki, Please Stop Posting These by
on 2012-02-08 01:46:00 UTC
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It depresses me more than anything to see these, and it feels like some kind of oneupmanship contest to find the worst possible fics. I don't think anyone has actually taken any of these on as a Mission.
I know it's not against the rules to post them, but you've posted nothing but MLP badfic recently, so I'm asking that you find something different to post, please. -
How about some goodfic to wash it all down? by
on 2012-02-08 04:27:00 UTC
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- Origin Story: Fluttershy, by dreatos.
A comic in three parts on DeviantArt, where Fluttershy first discovers she can use The Stare,
2. Blueblood Returns, by geldon
Prince Blueblood has come to Ponyville, claiming he wants to apologize to Rarity. Is that so? And how will Spike take this?
- Origin Story: Fluttershy, by dreatos.
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what is this i don't even... by
on 2012-02-07 13:52:00 UTC
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...Sorry. I might have to put some of these on my hitlist...
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Oy vey. by
on 2012-02-07 05:27:00 UTC
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- nope.avi
2. Seriously, where does this Molestia thing come from? It seems to be a recurring theme in Celestia's portrayal in fanfic... Apparently the author is thinking of making a sequel: "Princess Lunaughty". Pass the Bleeprin, please.
3. Wait, ponies eat meat now?
Seriously, I'm starting to doubt the intentions of the MLP fandom. The stuff that crawls out of the Pit is bad enough but these take Not Wanting to astronomical heights and beyond.
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It's some kind of meme, if I recall properly (nm) by
on 2012-02-07 06:04:00 UTC
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Close enough. by
on 2012-02-10 21:37:00 UTC
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Molestia and Lunanaughty are both ask blogs on Tumblr. Princess Molestia, done by the artist JJ, is more comic-style, while Lunanaughty, by Skoon, is more of the typical "question with a picture and some text answering it" style of pony ask blogs.
Both have fairly decent artwork. I tend to find them humorous, but I dunno if anyone else would. -
Yes. by
on 2012-02-07 12:25:00 UTC
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Yes, it is some kind of meme.
I have a hard time dealing with ponybadfic because I can never tell which ones were written intentionally badly, like some kind of horrible-contest, and which ones are because of real, honest-to-Eru writing failure. -
Either way, they're still bad, by
on 2012-02-07 19:08:00 UTC
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For different reasons, yeah, but both are bad writing, and so sporkable.
(Sure, not being able to tell what's a troll and what's not causes headache to Intel. Do we sent it to Troll division, or the "regular" Departments?) -
Good question. by
on 2012-02-07 19:40:00 UTC
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Writing fics that are horrifically inappropriate for the show seems to be standard now. It might be a safe bet to assume something like "Molestia" is a trollfic, but there will always be that lingering doubt that maybe it's not.
Maybe checking the authors' other writings will give us some insight into this dilemma. -
Re: Badfic by
on 2012-02-07 00:04:00 UTC
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Oh man, /Princess Molestia/? I thought that one was already taken care of, but I guess I was mistaken. Not sure I really want to know more about the other two.
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Interludes - Danny, Laura, and Rachel by
on 2012-02-08 02:30:00 UTC
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What do agents do with the rare free time they're able to scrounge up? Here are two short stories about that topic presented for your reading pleasure.
Danny's story - http://vgdivision.livejournal.com/5399.html#cutid1
Laura and Rachel's story - http://vgdivision.livejournal.com/5399.html#cutid2
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Brb squeeing forever by
on 2012-02-12 02:18:00 UTC
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I love the dialogue you made for Frag and Norion, especially the part where Norion threatens Danny and no one takes her seriously.
I'll admit I'm biased towards Danny's story because of their cameos, but both of the interludes were quite enjoyable. Laura seems like a very fun character to write, albeit not a fun one to get in the way of. -
Re: Interludes - Danny, Laura, and Rachel by
on 2012-02-09 19:36:00 UTC
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Personally I really enjoyed the whole thing, although I think Danny's interlude interested me more than Laura/Rachel.
Really love the idea of the club, and hope you'll get the chance to explore it more in the future, as well as seeing it in some other stories too. -
I liked it! by
on 2012-02-09 16:01:00 UTC
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... Would cover the short version of my response, but for the sake of me trying to write some-what more in-depth opinions, I'll use a few more words.
I liked the description for the Pennacook Club. My mental image was of the exclusive hunting club in The Beast Within, A Gabriel Knight Mystery. That said, I do agree with Phobos, that a little more info on who else might be in it would have been nice. After all, in an asari, a krogan, and a troll can be in it, I'm sure ti has plenty of interesting and upscale (as the PPC can be) individuals.
I really liked that one of the Flowers showed up. Unexpected, fun, and gives them some more depth then just being the nasty bosses. The idea of her sitting in a blub with the others, sipping some fancy drink and rolling dice is a very fun mental image.
Laura. Laura, Laura, Laura. Very funny, and certainly TF2 Soldierish. She is the best kind of teacher, one who will be the hardass driving force, but also someone you can blow things up in glee with. Rachel is as excitable and fun as ever (and also showing some good knowledge).
All in all, it was well worth the time to read it. Good job!
(Also, in response to Phobos, I know a couple of pen and paper RPGs that have plenty of class(es)) :P -
Concrit, ahoy! by
on 2012-02-08 17:01:00 UTC
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First off, let me just say that I am very behind in my PPC related reading. As such, this is the first I've read of Danny, Laura, and Rachel. That being said, I think these two short stories were excellent introductions for the three of them.
Let's first look at Danny's story...since it is first.
I liked the thought that you put into the bars in HQ. While I am not convinced that we need that many bars, I still appreciate the way you gave each one a personality. I've been to a number of bars in my day, and each one is different. So, spot on with that.
I would have liked more information about this club they are a part of. Who runs it? What else was going on in the room? Was anyone else even there? You had some nice details, but the bigger picture would have been nice, as well.
You managed to give pencil-and-paper RPGs a bit of class, well done. I liked the in-game scenes with their Superhero characters. Was that a specific system, or just something you made up?
All of the interactions were well done. I got a real sense of the group dynamic.
The best part of Danny's section, for me, was the arrival of the Rose of Sharon. It had not even occurred to me at that point that a Flower would be involved in something like this. So, well done for surprising me.
Overall, I quite enjoyed Danny's section. It appealed to my inner nerd, as well as to my outer nerd.
On to Laura and Rachel's section.
The set up of this section was a lot of fun. Reminded me of Meet the Soldier from TF2. You did an excellent job of making Laura's seriousness funny.
Laura makes a good point about the brain being the most important weapon. If you have nothing else, at least you have your brain. Sometimes, that just has to be enough.
The Wii-mote bit was quite well done. You had a lot of tension and energy going and you were really clipping along, and the the whole thing kind of dissolves into silliness. It was an excellent use of tone shift.
I couldn't really find anything wrong with this one. It was a very strong piece. The interactions were solid, the characters were fun, and the tone was spot on.
Well done, all around.
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Re: Concrit, ahoy! by
on 2012-02-09 02:04:00 UTC
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Thank you very much for the detailed review! I find that the more specific reviewers are, the more I can refine my next piece.
I admit that I was a bit torn on how much to put in about the club. I didn't want to bog down the story with a few paragraphs of description and exposition. Upon reading the section again, I realize that I could've gone a little bit further with some details and backstory. Fortunately, I do plan on revisiting the Pennecook Club some time in the future, so I will have another chance to flesh the place out.
The RPG that they're playing is a real game. It's called Mutants and Masterminds, and it's one of my favorites. The version that Danny's using has a few alterations/home rules (M&M vanilla doesn't have critical failure results, for example.)
Laura is definitely channeling the TF2 Soldier. I thought about having her quote Sun Tzu (or some derivation thereof) when I started, but I changed my mind later on in the writing process.
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You? Asking for concrit? by
on 2012-02-08 03:59:00 UTC
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I can't imagine you ever asking for concrit, chiefly because I really don't think you need it. I mean, for cryin' out loud, you wrote the Sandwich!Stu mission! It doesn't get much funnier than that.
These are a good pair of interludes. I think I preferred the Laura and Rachel half of the story, since that had a lot more energy to it than the other one. For Danny's interlude, I thought they were planning on doing an Ocean's 11 kind of thing before I realized they were playing a weird sci-fi variation of D&D. That may not necessarily be a bad thing, though, because that lent itself to some nice energy.
And the rapport between the characters? Always nice.
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Re: You? Asking for concrit? by
on 2012-02-09 01:48:00 UTC
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Ah, flattery. Thank you for taking the time to stroke my ego. ; )
Firebird was kind enough to offer me detailed character write-ups. Just about all of the little details - Frag and Norion's clothing, behavioral tics, and so on - came from those biographies. The only major thing I provided was the specific dialogue. -
A note on concrit by
on 2012-02-08 16:05:00 UTC
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Everyone can always use concrit. No matter how good their writing is, it can always be better. Concrit lets us know what doesn't work, so we can fix it. It also lets us know what does work, and why, which allows us to use it more effectively in the future.
Concrit is never unnecessary.
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Acknowledgements by
on 2012-02-08 03:06:00 UTC
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I put these in the document disclaimer, but I might as well put them here too. Many thanks to doctorlit for betaing and to Firebird776 for allowing me to use the characters of Frag and Norion.
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IRC problems by
on 2012-02-09 00:04:00 UTC
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I tried getting into the PPC chatroom, but when I typed in my username and entered the chatroom, it was blank. There wasn't any loading process on the screen, making it look like as if there wasn't anyone in the chatroom at all.
Is anyone else experiencing this? Maybe it might have something to do with the coding in the IRC (or it was just my computer basically messing up). -
Curious by
on 2012-02-09 20:39:00 UTC
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Why did the chat move? I suppose it's generally not my business, but it just up and moved with no Board announcement or explanation. Just a note that it had moved. I can't even get onto Blitzed anymore to find out where it moved to, none of the links on the Board or wiki are working. Would it be possible to post the server and room info in this link thread?
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It's absolutely your business. by
on 2012-02-09 22:17:00 UTC
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Ain't nobody in this community, 'Board or IRC, that doesn't have a right to know what and when things are happening, and why. The reason that I heard was that doppleganger troll, the one who was signing in with Data's name (and on here, presumably the same person, Aster's). The new server (irc.sorcery.net) should fix that by way of being more strict with registered nicks.
The channel name, #PPC, is the same, and I think there's a note on the topic of the old channel on Blitzed; the new one is just on irc.sorcery.net instead of irc.blitzed.org.
Hope that helps, very sorry for confusion. -
Re: IRC problems by
on 2012-02-09 06:27:00 UTC
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There does seem to be something up with the link from the board, if that's what you were using. I just tried it out, and it took nearly twenty minutes trying to look up my hostname, with no luck.
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Yeah, the link. that's what I meant. Thanks. (nm) by
on 2012-02-09 14:38:00 UTC
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What VM said, might be the changes in the IRC. Still... (nm) by
on 2012-02-09 22:35:00 UTC
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Update by
on 2012-02-09 00:17:00 UTC
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I'm able to get into the IRC. I'm a bit skeptical about it, though; so I would have to make sure it doesn't happen again in the meantime.
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Same thing by
on 2012-02-09 03:29:00 UTC
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has been happening to me for the past two days or so. I wonder if there is something wrong with the server.
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Use the link on the 'Board. The server changed. (nm) by
on 2012-02-09 06:19:00 UTC
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This message brought to you by People Yelling At Me In The Channel.
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Actually by
on 2012-02-09 18:26:00 UTC
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that's what has been having issues. I don't know how to work with IRCs and I never bookmarked the channel so I've just been coming here to click the link when I wanted to get on.
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We shall have to try and get The Nameless Admin's attention. by
on 2012-02-09 22:13:00 UTC
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To my knowledge, there's nothing wrong with the channel, but we've been making a lot of changes lately, trying to bring everything up to where people agree it should be, giving the Bot its guidelines, etc. So perhaps that's why it's been rocky?
Other than that, I think the Board link is a job for our Nameless Admin, seeing as s/he is the only one who can fix such things.
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First Mission (concrit welcomed) by
on 2012-02-09 01:02:00 UTC
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I have finished my first mission, 'Overpowered and the Triggerhappy,' in which Agents Ari and Tera face off against two Overpowered!Sues.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZSWVVKRXDY0rrqKH2OzJKhzTC9Y4jsgqp59oZcm5f38/edit?hl=en_US
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BHisiZAyPVFIOZ8znSG4Y1oEal405TV_nJhL75abStQ/edit?hl=en_US -
Re: Mission by
on 2012-02-09 05:17:00 UTC
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I'm afraid I found this mission a bit hard to follow. It was structured well, but I am unfamiliar with Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha. I didn't understand what gems and cores are/do, or how the magic system in this universe works, or even the plot, really. There seems to be some kind of war going on, with cadets being trained, and occupied vs. unoccupied planets, but I don't know the causes of that war, or how this story fits into that context. It's good to explain less well-known canons to your audience (us) so we understand why the badfic is a danger to it. Details about canon characters are important, too; you said that Fate was a "White Devil", which had me picturing an egg-colored version of the Red Guy from Cow and Chicken. I didn't realize Fate was female until one of the badfic quotes referred to her with a female pronoun.
That said, you did well to include passages that anyone could recognize as bad writing, like the cute animal summons and Fury's inappropriate behavior in a military setting. These are things PPCers will be familiar with, and really showed off the general Suishness of the OCs. I also liked the setup for the assassination scene. You gave enough details to get across the feeling of impending disaster without bogging down the flow with extra info that wouldn't be needed that late in the story.
One weird thing I wanted to mention. It seems that "Nature" isn't a legitimate element in MGLN, so I assume Might of Oaks isn't a canon spell. In that case, it's probably a ripoff/homage of this Magic: the Gathering card:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=191316
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Re: Mission by
on 2012-02-09 12:06:00 UTC
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Oh, I'm sorry. Nanoha isn't very popular, so I suppose I should've expected this. The Time-Space Administration Bureau is rather like an interdimensional police force. However, they won't go conquering worlds, so there's Unadministrated Worlds, (like ours) where the TSAB doesn't (usually) go. The cadets are being trained to join the Bureau, and there's no war going on. The basic plot of the season the fic takes place in is: Evil Doctor and his 12 cyborg 'daughters' want to conquer the world with an ancient artifact, the main characters form a special section to deal with him.
Nanoha, not Fate, has been nicknamed the White Devil, because of her tendency to make new friends with mecha-class beam cannons, and for a line from the second season:
*Nanoha walks out of a fire*
Character: You...devil
Nanoha: Call me a devil... (pulls out weapon.) It just means I'll have to use my hellish tools to get you to listen!
(please pardon my fangirling, that's one of my favorite scenes)
The gem thing: Weapons in the nanoha-verse (Intelligent Devices) can take a standby mode--after all, walking around with a laser gun or an energy scythe in public is kinda terrorist-y. The standby mode can take many forms, and is often a gemstone-looking object. However, it's impossible to turn a normal jewel into a Device, since they will need a lot of hardware. The cores thing...is never mentioned in canon.
No, Nature is not an element. The Mana Conversion Affinity (almost never referred to by name)is the ability to turn magic into a certain other energy, but it's usually something chemical-reaction-y. The character Signum has a fire Affinity, and Fate has a lightning one. I didn't know that Might of Oaks was a card, I'll add it. -
Feedback. by
on 2012-02-09 02:47:00 UTC
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Okay, so I have a few items I need to get to first before I say anything else:
1) When you post a mission, it's usually customary to post that mission to the front page of the wiki, in addition to everywhere else you'd post it there. Just for future reference.
2) Also for future reference, it's generally a good idea to take out all the comments your betas left for you before posting the mission. If we see the development, it can get kinda distracting.
3) In the posting of the mission, it's also standard practice to post a list of the minis and the loot that you got from the mission.
Okay. Now that I have those small issues out of the way, let's get to your mission.
Your first mission isn't that bad. That said, though, there are a few issues. For one, I felt there was an exorbitant amount of ficbit thoughout this whole thing, such that it actually really slowed down the pacing after a certain point. I'd suggest using much less ficbit than you have here.
Also, I felt a little out of the loop. This is probably because I don't know Magical Girl Nanoha and thus don't know what's overpowered and what's not overpowered, and who all those factions are. I'm not asking for As You Know, but it would help to establish that kind of thing for those of us that don't know that continuum all that well.
That said, though, there were still plenty of good moments. I think Ari and Tera both have a good rapport going for them, and when you do describe the crazy thing the fic does to the World, it's actually quite witty.
But to be completely fair, I felt the mission read a bit too much like an MST to really work effectively. -
Wiki front page by
on 2012-02-09 13:41:00 UTC
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Actually, on the subject of the front page, I just tried posting my latest mission to the front page and for some reason the wiki wouldn't let me.
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Were you logged in? by
on 2012-02-09 15:25:00 UTC
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The Wiki has logged me out without my knowledge before.
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Wiki front page by
on 2012-02-09 14:40:00 UTC
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Were you signed in? If you are not signed in to the wiki, it will not let you edit the front page.
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Re: Wiki front page by
on 2012-02-09 22:03:00 UTC
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Well, the little bar on top of the page says I'm logged in, so it's not that.
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Re: Feedback. by
on 2012-02-09 12:11:00 UTC
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1) Sorry, I was actually having technical difficulties when I posted this here. I'll try to finish doing that today.
2) Sorry--I think that's taken care of now.
3) The minis were Hacken Form, rein, and Teana Lanstar. Only the last one is up for adoption. I got the four Portal cores, modified somehow to repress magic, and seven jewels that might or might not be magical.
I actually cut out a lot of stuff, but I'll try to include less fic next time. Also, do you think I should try to clear up some of the canon in the Author's Notes? -
Mini and loot lists by
on 2012-02-09 04:43:00 UTC
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Posting a list of minis and loot is not standard practice. In fact, it is a fairly recent trend, which not everyone follows, myself and Nesh included (as evidenced by our last mission post). Not saying you shouldn't or can't, if you feel like it. Just don't hold it against people for not doing it.
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Re: First Mission (concrit welcomed) by
on 2012-02-09 01:04:00 UTC
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Fanfic: Animist and the Anarchist by itanshi
Canon: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha
Rating: T
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Returning mission by
on 2012-02-09 13:11:00 UTC
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The new mission is finally complete. The Rookie agents take it upon themselves to visit the word world and face a dangerous Avengers Mary-Sue.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ccMVIUIGCKlwYMfiarc1McWyta-ZVFqgTbYOx1RGnbQ/edit
And following the mission, the Rookies return to face their punishment in an eventful interlude.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rqf_nVHq61_7qpfhL5g7ahd_2mWF8ytGcme6SpPI5w/edit
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Interlude by
on 2012-02-10 01:39:00 UTC
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Other than the comma and apostrophe problems, you also had a few other typos.
Do I make myself clear.
This should end in a question mark
Wait until we can rub this is Science Lad’s face!”
Is should be in
“My whereabouts however does not explain what you were doing on the ceiling of Sasha’s bedroom.
does should be do, I think.
As she finished the sentence she suddenly burst into the song, going through the opening bars of ‘Goldfinger’.
Goldfinger should be a better Bond song. I believe you meant 'Live and Let Die'
As for the Interlude itself...
I liked it. It wasn't terribly exciting or anything, or even funnier than an average interlude, let's say, but other than the grammar issues (big 'other than' there, you should really work on those) it seemed fine. The new trainees seem like an interesting bunch. Also...
Biggins nodded. “Thus speaks someone who has never been a field agent,” he replied. “It may be that putting them in the field is the worst punishment the Flowers could think of.”
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Re: Interlude by
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Thanks for the comments Guv, I've gone through and taken a look at the bits you mentioned. Out of interest is there a reason you would have used Live and Let Die rather than Goldfinger?
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Yes by
on 2012-02-10 19:03:00 UTC
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I don't like Goldfinger. That was a joke!
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Re: Yes by
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Ahhh. As I suspected. I agree it's a good song / movie, but Goldfinger is a classic.
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Actually... by
on 2012-02-10 21:18:00 UTC
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I've never seen the movie. I have seen Goldfinger, and I agree it's a classic, but damn it if that song doesn't make me cringe.
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Re: Mission by
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These pieces were both very enjoyable! I like the mixture of mission and PPC-goings on that you have happening here. You did some creative things in the mission that set it apart, and I also like the setup of strangeness happening in RC 4095. It has me intrigued! I wonder if the SO assigned them there so that any further incidents don't go unreported?
However, I also have to say that you need to work on your commas and apostrophes. As much as I enjoyed these stories, every time I hit a possessive with no apostrophe, it through right out of my train of thought. There were also quite a few misspelled words in the first one, such as "eventual looser" instead of "loser." I strongly suggest reading through them again with an eye for spelling and punctuation. -
Re: Mission by
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Thanks for the feedback. I am well aware that general SPaG is my main downfall, and obviously am trying to work on it.
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Eventful stuff indeed! by
on 2012-02-09 16:04:00 UTC
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It's crazy to see that the Avengers movie is getting incredibly bad canon-breakers like this before the movie is even out. What the heck is up with that?
Anyway, this was a really fun mission. It was great to see the theory they came up with for finding the Sue without an RA. I also really liked how it took a non-standard format for the mission, and especially seeing the stuff the fic did to the continuum.
The canon split was really weird, but I'd love to see more of that.
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Re: Eventful stuff indeed! by
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Thanks for the comments. To be fair there were just so much in there that seemed to break the canon. The Sue's existence, Pepper Potts dying years before the Iron Man films, despite it claiming to be set inside of canon, and so much more. I felt the canon needed to do a little fighting back.
Hopefully they won't need to worry about not having an RA now that they've made it to full agent status, but who knows there may be more creative results needed. -
Mission mini's by
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Forgot to mention in the first post, two mini's were pulled out of the mission.
SHIELD - A mini Samuel L Jackson style Nick Fury
SHEILD - A mini David Hasselhoff style Nick Fury
Both mini's will be appearing in future stories.