Nov 2010 Archive, part c

Fair winds!

Now you can throw BBQ parties!

Welcome to the Board! Please deposit your sanity in the provided receptacle. *indicates bucket marked "Warg Fodder"* You shan't need it here.

Always nice to meet newbies, especially one who likes Naruto. Have a generic book of your choice.

Don't feed it Mary Sues.

Welcome to the board, I have a bunch of gifts for you! First, have this complementary Sunflower Official bobblehead. Keep it away from open flames unless you really hate the Flowers That Be.

Second, I have a whole bunch of useful links every new PPC'er needs. First off, we have the Wiki's editing tutorial and Permission FaQ:
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Editing#Neshomeh.27s_Editing_Tutorial
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Permission

Next on the list is the newbie FaQ, Slash-Sporking Guide, Mission Writing Guide, the Guide to the PPC, the List of killed Badfic, and the list of everything PPC. Use them well!
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:_For_Newbies
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Slash-Sporking_Guide
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_Writing_Guide
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Guide_To_The_PPC
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Killed_Badfic
http://community.livejournal.com/the_ppc/20306.html

Finally, there's something I've just got to ask; What are your Fandoms? If I'm lucky, we've got a few in common, and I'm just inclined to ask.

Welcome to the Board! Here, have some chocolate and enjoy your stay here!

Welcome, new friend!

Have a gopher! I would keep him out of your lawn, though, you'll never get rid of him...And for some reason, there's this one Kenny Loggins song he really likes to dance to...

♪I'm alright! Nobody worry 'bout me!♪

Hello! Have a pet cat and a Pie of Rassilon. The pie is tasty. The cat may be tasty, but I hope you don't eat it. That, my dear, is animal cruelty.

Looks like you had a long journey trough the internet in order to find us. Have a cookie made of awesome.

Welcome to the PPC! Have a bag of pebbles and a Random Shiny Object!

Have a folding car. It becomes a rather heavy cas when not in use. Be careful, it has a tendency to accidentally unfold itself. Do not put it near fragile objects.

Just as a warning, there is a high probability that someone will offer you a bengal tiger (whatever that is). Take this tazer and electrocute them.

Hi Caddy-shack! I'm so glad someone is finally newer than me! And I was advised when I came here:
- Please, leave your sanity at the door *points at a bucket labelled 'Biohazard Trash'*
- As it's a rule to give newbies a gift, here you have a six-pack of scented candles. Try not to light them because they like to explode.

Here, have a platypus. It's a female, so you don't have to worry about poison spurs.

(There are a couple spelling/grammar errors in your post. I'd recommend being careful about those, especially on this board.)

Fair winds!

Now you can throw BBQ parties!

Im a recent returneee too. I don't think I've met you yet, so have a generic book of your choice.

And I think my greeting is rather late. But nevertheless, here, have a chocolate bar!

~X.B.

Have a perfectly-preserved snowball. Keep it and treasure it, for it...is...a snowball. *nods wisely*

have some Mackintosh bar toffee... treasure it... it will be extinct in the next year.

There's really nothing you can do about number 3, I think. Just treat 'em all the same and the people that like it, stay. Sometimes life happens and suddenly spending 5 minutes a day on a posting board isn't an interest or an option. So... well, I suppose that's all. I quit the Board for a while because of Real Life, and I'm here again, insanity intact. :)

Just so I got my facts right, you can only exorcise/eliminate a Sue after they have completely screwed up the canon?


How badly screwed up would the canon have to be? (like in LOTR?) say, if they save Gandalf from falling, would that count?

So, if a character in a real-world-based fandom set in a time period that's not 21st-century Western Earth sings a song that is from 21st-century Western Earth, it's a charge, particularly if they take credit for the song. What about if it's in a fandom which is loosely based on the real world but already contains some anachronisms and/or far more surreal things than anachronistic songs? What about if the song in question doesn't contain any material that shows it couldn't possibly have been around at that time?

Asking for guidelines because I found a Who Framed Roger Rabbit fic board which is filled with utter garbage. (No, the Toon Patrol do not need a spunky girl joining, sapping their personalities and evilness entirely, and turning them into interchangeable puppets to make her look better. Is it so hard for me to find a decent weasel fix without added Sue? And incidentally none of them seem to remember that the movie is set in 1947 ...) However, was thinking of writing some better fic for it, and am entertained by the thought of the weasel in the straitjacket singing Emilie Autumn's "Miss Lucy Had Some Leeches". Which is a far better song than most of the ones these ficcers pick.

I'm putting my potential agents through the litmust test right now. Does the ability to remember everything you read count as a disibility in the PPC? She can't go anywhere without emergency Bleeprin stocks and a Bleepipen (like an epipen). Also, is a semi-formal prescription from medical for Bleeprin allowed? It's basically just a note saying "Give her Bleeprin" signed by one of the nurses.

Thanks!

1) The crash dummy has nothing to do with the description of the Sue. It has everything to do with the point of view of the story (first person, for example). However, I would count the AN in your example as part of the story because it does give information that is important to the story.

2)Sues do not have souls, per se. They have been observed to have wraiths that sometimes need to be dealt with after the Sue has been. Using the term "soul-mate" does not indicate that there is a soul. It is a way for a Suethor to try to legitimize their pairing.

3) All you can do is tell people about the PPC. Even people who have every intention of joining in the long-term sometimes disappear. Not much we can do about it. That is one reason we have the one month waiting period before you can get permission.

I'm not a FULL part of the PPC yet, but I can tell it is definitely bad, in chap 22, the author introduces Sasori and Kimimaru, way OOC. There might be some possession sues (characters who act COMPLETELY different) I didn’t read the whole thing. It'll definitely need an exorcism. However, that's just my opinion.

I don't like it at all and I've just read two chapters. And if you find no Sue (I don't dare to keep on reading) it may be handed to bad slash or character protective services, whatever works for it, but please someone kill it!

AHahahahah... heh... mm...
"what every girl dressed in rags and forced to work as a servant does... she sings..." Oh, but let's not forget talking to the uniformly coloured animals, shall we? Talking to the animals and making them do chores! Disney! Answer!

I know it's not the right thread but... who are your agents, Sergio? I want to read your missions

I *knew* there was some reason I was missing you guys in particular.

"Dumbeldore looked at the letter he was writing on his magic typewriter. It said some stuff about really complicated magics and they were too hard for any muggle to understand even like Einstine or Obama or the dude with the wheelecahir."

Hah! Einstein and Obama and the wheelchair...

"CAN YOU SING FOR OLD TIMES SAKE!" yelped Arthur who was keeping it reel on the dancefloor.

keeping it... reel... hahahAHAhah...

thankee :)

"'NOOOOOOOOOOO~~~~~~~~~O!' he shouted as he blew up and bits of berd splattered all over his car which became vernons now because he had left the keys behind and Vernon could steel them and use them to go driving wherever he wanted. Even the sea. Because it was magic."
Best story ever.

Holy elephant dung. That is hilarious.

This is my favourite line by far:
He pulled his wand and pointed it at vernon and a long shooty of white magic strings flew out of the end and landed on some stuff.

So much effort! So much description!

My voldemort? O rly?
My bile fascination forces me to click this link...

Okay... this hurts. No, it HURTS.

This fic is hilariously bad. I kill.

While I was playing aroud with the files of an old RC cars racing game (Re-Volt), I found out that the three cars going around in the Options menu (cars normally not avaible for use in the races, and even when hacked in they are very slow and with horrible handling), while the directories of the files are called wincar1, wincar2 and wincar3, the name that appears in the selection menu when hacked in are Wincar and Wincar Three for the first and the last, but the second one is called Wincar Too. Yes. And the game was developed in the UK, too! (Pun non intended.)

I can understand if the posts are writen ent13rly l1ek th1s, or if the missions have errors, but isn't making a big deal out of a few missing caapitals and punctuation marks in posts just a little stuffy and high-school-English-teacher-like? It seems to miss the point of the PPC.

I hsd nevar thaught thaat nebody hear o he baord wuld evr spel badlee! I meen, taht's whu wee r hear, rite?

And, to, think; that here is people... Who. are FLAGRANTLY ignoring the rules of grammar while posting!!! I don't believe this??? After all; that's saying like people are having here no sense of humor!!!

Bad spelling/grammar is a charge, so shouldn't we try to avoid it?

I generally try to check my spelling on everything, but I'll start to make a special effort for PPC related writing. If we're sporking people who make these mistakes, we can't very well make them ourselves.

Yes, ma'am! No more typos or errors in our posts, ma'am!

(Incidentally, that expression literally means "Hear, listen! This person has something important to say, so pay attention!")

Anyhow, Firefox users, take especial note: you can get an add-on that spellchecks anything you type into a text field, like the one you use to post on the Board. Here's American English, and here's British English. If you prefer another variety, check the list.

And, of course, if you DON'T have Firefox, you can always download it. It's free, it's easy to use, and it's much safer than (for example) Internet Explorer. {= )

~Neshomeh

It's not generally done in missions, because for a large number of Agents having to go through and pay close attention to every bit of a fic would drive them round the bend (unless it's a very short fic). If you want to snark at everything, you'd probably be better off writing an MST. Which is great fun, especially if you partner up with someone else to do it. :D

When you snark every line of dialogue, you've written an MST. Personally, I don't consider those missions, because there usually doesn't happen anything else than the snark. There's usually not much of a story. I guess it would be possible to have mission things happen, such as writing down charges, admiring the scenery (or commenting the lack thereof), getting on each other's nerve, i.e. have a story and still snark every line of dialogue.

For a mission you need permission, for an MST you don't. There are no rules concerning how you write a mission, other than the rules that apply to writing fanfic. That means you are allowed to write a mission where you snark every line of dialogue. Though I don't really see why you would want to.

Bleepong is a great game! There have been all kind of cool things coming up lately, and this definitely counts as one of them.

Also, awwwwwwwww! I can't wait to see that little demon grow up! It kind of gives a whole new meaning to the muttered curse "That kid of mine is demon spawn!" that parents of two year olds are familiar with.

And I can't forget to mention that I liked the fight between Cthulthu and Lucifer--especially the part where Caleb comes in and mentions their continuing battles in the halls of HQ.

Anyway, nice Interlude.

What a cute little demon!

Because of you, for the very first time in my life, I am going to SQUEEEEE!!! That baby is so cuuute! :D No, seriously, all the time while I was reading about it, I had this ridiculously wide grin on my face. Hell, it's still here, even as I type this. Here's hoping *raises a glass of bleepka* that the kid grows into a fine agent and never gets sent into a Good Omens badfic. *downs the drink* I dread to think what the consequences of that would be. Good thing badfics in that universe are so rare, eh? Oh, and when I get permission, I will make my agents play BleePong at some point. Big fun.

I'm glad you reposted the link to your mission, since I was too late last time. Now I get the chance to say I love it, I really do. It was funny enough to almost make that vomit-inducing fic bearable. Bleh. Thinking of it too much makes me queasy, so I'll just say this. Needing a matchmaker, Sue or not, is a bad sign. It's just a quick-fix, and therefore unsatisfying, solution. We want delicious character and situation build-up, dammit! Especially in our sacred/unholy fandoms! *fumes a little* Your picture is cute too, by the by.

A toast to you *tosses the glass and goes for the bottle*, and if they ever do make a Good Omens movie (and I really hope they don't), may it be without Depp, Bloom or any such teen steam machine. *tips back the bottle and drains it* 'M not kiddin'. Jush' look at thish picshure by quantum-witch. 'Sh freakin' terrifyin' in all itsh accree... Arcee... Preshision. Here, shee? *drops off her chair*

Attack of the Mad Fangirls

I know this has already been said before, butI'll say it anyway: AWWWWW! ^_^

Nice work! I really enjoy reading your stories.

I love it. You really do have a great sense of humour for these things as well as dumping in sheer adorability, PPC style. XD

Awesome. And you used the Hellpuppies :)

seriously cool. She ATE an Uruk Hai? Sweet! I loved the Two Bits thing. That was a good movie. I loved the line about it only being rabbit blood.

Very nice, I like the interactions between the characters, especially Murdoc, including him knowing a bit about the PPC, since the Gorillazverse doesn't have much of a Fourth Wall, does it?

And that "Shave and a Haircut" bit at the end had me in a giggling fit. Nice touch.

It's in, of all fandoms, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" - which actually has a surprising number of Sues inflicted on the weasels, for reasons I can't fathom. This isn't one of them, however, it's a standard-ish "human Marty Stu gets sucked into cartoon world and does unspeakable things with Jessica while Roger conveniently vanishes into thin air.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6205312/1/Im_Not_Bad_You_Just_Drawn_Me_That_Way
Supremely un-worksafe. Contains the wonderful line "Cartoons don't have virginity."

You had me giggling like an idiot through the whole thing. Both Molly and 2D were completely adorable and darn it you just unleashed an entire warren of artbunnies into my brain.

Hm... Murdoc seems to be developing a thing for mustelids, doesn't he?

But I don't think in the pit yet. I don't think it has its own section yet-- try looking in Misc. Comics. Of course, then you get Dr. McNinja badfic so...

I can't really call this a win/win situation. Kind of a bleepka/bleepka situation.

I do know for a fact there is a MSPA-related 4chan though. 413chan.

http://www.413chan.net/

If there is badfic, you will find it there. I don't frequent it myself. Mostly due to people drawing pronz of what I see as 13 year old children. *shakes bottle of bleeprin meaningfully.*

Well, a troll agent would be kinda fun. Especially if (s)he has a speaking quirk which annoys the hell out of his/her partner. OR HE IS JUST ANGRY ALL THE TIME!

Also, I didn't find anything too horrible about HS... seems like Lord English killed Sturgeon's law.

Well, you may try the kink meme... they have some really cracky pairings, maybe there's some badfic in there. I remember Equius raping Nepeta with an automatic dildo...

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas or whatnot, please tell me.

My initial concept: Originally a bit from a badfic, [name undecided yet] had no physical description and only as much designated personality as a single Trollian conversation would expose. I'm thinking she'll be somewhat messed-up due to a bad transition from troll culture to PPC life. May be dependent on bleepka, I dunno for sure. I'd probably give her Generic Grey blood resulting from the poor description in her home fic.

Homestuck doesn't actually have any badfic yet! Yay!

Oh, and a Troll Agent? As in, Alternian troll?

I dunno how that'd work. Try it, though, should be cool!

I think Agent Barid is a troll, isn't he?

There's about a zillion different kinds.

Are there any? I haven't seen any missions into that fandom yet.

I just checked...there's two sequels to it! NO! *resists urge to use many many Os and exclamation points, because using many many Os and exclamation points in a no is the Mary Sue way* I'm not even going to READ the M-rated one...I looked at the other one a bit *shudders* I'm scarred for LIFE... http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4623360/1/The_New_Generation http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5309210/1/College_Life

I've been having some stuff happen too, I won't be able to write for a while but I could still beta

I'm about 75% done with a mission right now, and if I get my act together in the coming weeks and finish it, I'll ask you to beta. Have you seen "How to Train Your Dragon"? (You should. It's great.)

~Neshomeh

Although I don't have anything for you to edit currently.
...
Unfortunately, I am also having an attack of Real Life looming ahead (instead of falling behind, like yourself) and I don't really have anything of much importance for you to edit that is at that particular stage. But I'll keep it in mind.

Emergency Advice:
If in a direly bored condition, take yourself to the nearest Terry Pratchett volume available.

But here are some Anti-Lustin baloons!

Here is a handwritten manuscript of A Study in Scarlet and a bag of Victorian money--both pilfered from a badfic.

Also a six pack of Bleepbeer and a seventeen foot long, multicolored, wool, knit scarf.

Have a generic book of your choice.

Fair winds!

Now you can throw BBQ parties!

Have a folding car. It folds into a rather heavy case when not needed. However, it has a tendency to unfold itself when it shouldn't. Be careful.

*I /failed/ NaNoWriMo...*

Have some matches and candles. (You seem to have gotten several cakes already.)

Have some Convenient Cake, and a bar of chocolate :)

Have a chocolate cupcake with a candle in it (But don't forget to blow it out first)!

Yay for birthdays! ^_^

*gives you a sack of pebbles, your own customised sling, and a basket of delicious Bleeprin-berries*

And a manly pat on the back for everyone who worked on NaNoWriMo this year!

Happy Birthday to you, have a cake with a rubber duck on the top.
Well done to all NaNoWriMo people, as well. I didn't do it this year, but well done to all of you who won! And those who didn't, as well.

It's my birthday too! I turn 23 today!

*puts on a silly party hat of his own*

Happy birthdays all around!

Happy birthday!

And congrats to those who have finished NaNo! /was too busy to attempt it this year... or the past three years. >.>

I finished two days ago, with about 50,763 words (okay, so I checked). At long last, I finished something worthwhile, and no one (except me) will ever write horrible fan fiction of it. Yay!
Happy birthday to you as well. Have a random heavy object--great for hitting sues, their pets, or your annoying partner.
-H_W

(I have no account, and do not plan on starting one.)

I'm someone who whole-heartedly detests any and all forms of discrimination, so I think that it's only natural that this man is going to get a new diploma. It's his right, after all.

Now about the question you asked. Here in Belgium, when a person enters university and has a sex change during the course of their studies, they will initially receive a diploma with their old name on it. However, as soon as that person's new gender has been legally recognized (following a medical examination and such), a new diploma will be given to that person.

Incidentally, my society is extremely tolerant of LGBT people. We're one of the very few countries to permit civil marriage between same-sex couples, with all the same rights as heterosexual marriage. Just look at this map. Adoption by same-sex couples, too, is legal since 2006. Hate crimes and discrimination are practically unheard of here. Case in point. In 1997, a dockworker named Ronny Van Sandt, then aged forty-seven and married since 1974, underwent a sex change operation and took on the name Priscilla. Afterwards, she went right back to working at the docks, and none of her male colleagues had any problems with that. No harassment or anything. I might add that Priscilla's wife Jeannine, while at first a bit doubtful about the whole arrangement, still supported her throughout the whole thing, and that the couple did not stop having sex after the operation.

I know this is a lot more information than you asked for, but it gives me a little glow of pride to be able to say it.

I don't know if someone would be able to do this in Canada, but I hope so. We're pretty left wing about most things- compared to the U.S. anyway. I don't know how we'd measure up to the Netherlands.

I salute you sir.

Good for him, and right on board with the faith in humanity.

As to how such things are handled-- in America, I think it depends very much on the region, because Federal law is a good fifty years behind the rest of humanity. In California, for example, a school would probably not mind issuing another diploma-- New England it would vary wildly from town to town, depending on who was on the school board/university board/what have you. It might be prejudiced of me, but I wouldn't expect much from the majority of the Deep South and midwest.

The thing about this country is, it moves less like a single entity and more like a spooked herd of mustangs-- a few false starts, some charging off in the wrong direction, and nobody runs exactly the same way, but eventually we get all fifty states on the same path, mostly.

Because I am totally left-wing. As for my country, I know California's still working out its Prop 8 issue, but I'm not sure about America's stance on transsexuals or the LGBT community as a whole. I'm glad that things like this are happening, though; at the very least, it's proof that the world is moving forward.

I spend a lot of time worrying about these issues, though. I'm lucky enough to live in a very diverse area, so most of the people in my community are very open and accepting about race and orientation and such. Still, though, I hear about violence and hate crimes happening every now and then, and it scares me. Like I said, I live in a very diverse area, so a lot of my friends are gay or bisexual. It really hits close to home.

I may not be big on gay marriage and all, but it's pretty obvious that if a person changed their name in the duration, that's the one you print.

I don't know how it is in America--maybe others do--but I would hope that since a legal name-change is something that is done, it would make sense to change it on all important documents, including a diploma. I wouldn't expect it to be an issue legally, but then, I'm a bit of an idealist. What makes sense to me isn't always the way things work. I'll be interested to find out if anyone else knows.

~Neshomeh