I left a review for a story on my forum and then the author came along and asked if I wanted to beta read her story. I was "yay, this person appreciates tough love". I accepted her request, but did tell her I did not like to beta for grammar and punctuation.
It turned out she was pretty bad at punctuating dialogue. Rather than correcting all the errors, I thought I would explain her about the rules and let her fix the errors herself (and send the fic back to me for checking over any missed punctuation). The idea was that she would learn how to punctuate so that future chapters would have less errors in them.
This person turned out to be a bit of an idiot. That she didn't apply the rules is her choice, but she also did not remove my comments from the document. She uploaded a chapter that opens with my suggestions on how to improve her punctuation as a sort of author's note.
we've recently fallen out over a little addition I had made to my original review.
Now, would it be very petty of me to PPC one of her other fics?
Or should I just follow that rule of thumb I've followed so far: if I've beta read them (or they've shown in another way they are willing to consider advice someone has given them) I should not PPC them?
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I guess it's a question of morals by
on 2009-01-22 08:58:00 UTC
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*snorts* by
on 2009-01-23 10:51:00 UTC
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I've encountered this type of person before. You beta their Word doc or whatever, send it back with comments in or out of the fic and they immediately post the chapter without even checking them. At least people can now see what a fool she is that she hasn't even deleted your in-fic comments.
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The amazing thing is by
on 2009-01-23 16:48:00 UTC
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She has looked through the document before uploading it. None of my in-text comments made it into the posted chapter (except for a few instances of bold text which I had used to mark my changes). She had just left the notes on the top of the story. Perhaps she scroled past them thinking they were her own notes. They're gone now, after I reminded her of them a third time during our falling out.
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*rolls eyes* by
on 2009-01-23 17:01:00 UTC
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This is why I even check my own author notes for edits. Because I have no idea (of course, this is also why I make all of my comments outside of the fic now, so that someone doesn't miss one and publish it by mistake).
I don't suppose you know, but can anyone tell me what FF.net's reaction would be if I posted something which still had edits visible from Word's Track Changes feature. I'm predicting spontaneous combustion.
"She didn't delete the author's note at the end that I'm her new betareader. Hmm."
:P I got fired a while ago for being too good. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4763715/1/ She's improved a bit in the later chapters, but she wouldn't listen to any of my comments that 'this makes no sense at all' and 'the characters suck'. -
II'd err on the side of caution... by
on 2009-01-22 21:18:00 UTC
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Which means not PPCing the work yourself. It's too easy for her to find it, and that'll just make things worse; the last thing you want is her throwing a fit at you personally.
I'd say toss it out for another PPCer to pick up and wash your hands of her work. It'll keep her from being wounded - perhaps far more deeply than if you were a random stranger - and preserve your reputation. Someone around here will deal with it. :) -
Sounds like a good alternative. (nm) by
on 2009-01-23 10:34:00 UTC
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Yup. by
on 2009-01-22 13:14:00 UTC
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I probably would. But I'm not a very nice person. XD
If you've tried to help her and she hasn't accepted that help, then that just makes her worse. At least some of the others might be doing it because they're ignorant. Unless you're wanting to PPC one of her fics simply because she annoyed you, rather than because it genuinely needs dealing with.
It depends on whether you can handle the follow through as well. If it's going to make you feel guilty then perhaps it's not worth it.
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Your thoughts on the matter count as much... by
on 2009-01-22 17:04:00 UTC
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as the next boarder's.
Well, the fic genuinely needs dealing with. One of my first thoughts when she asked me to beta was "dang, now I can't PPC her stuff anymore". There's a Sue (and an imported friend), there's more people out of character than you can wave a stick at (because in this fandom they might shoot you if you do), there's historical inaccuracies and the plot has holes.
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Give us the link to the story by
on 2009-01-22 19:41:00 UTC
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Show us the link and if the rest of the PPC Hive Mind agrees, someone will probably PPC it. Alternatively, one of us might try to take over your role in supervising her fics, seeing as how you two have fallen out. She has shown some willingness to revise her stories, which is more than most Suethors, so I'd go easy on her for a little while longer--see if we can't bring her back to the straight and narrow.
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I'll give a link to the author's profile by
on 2009-01-23 16:41:00 UTC
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Doctor's Gal 1792.
The story I betead was the fifth chapter of "Before the Worst". Incidentally, in her request to me she mentioned that her other beta had abondoned her. There may be something of a patern there.
The story I would be interested in PPCing is "The Lost Daughter". It has an interesting premise, but in my opinion the author screws it up by having the lost daughter and her dad bonding from the moment they meet. Which I feel unlikely since (a) the dad thought she died 100 years previously, and (b) she is now working for an organisation he hates. Also, around chapter seven or eight, the author introduces a friend of hers as bit character.
Those two stories are both Torchwood. The author has also written a few others (that might be Sue worthy, I haven't checked) in that fandom. A few stories in Doctor Who (among others one where she retells the story of "Titanic" with 10 and Rose in the roles of Jack and Rose; that's got to be good).
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Interesting... by
on 2009-01-25 21:59:00 UTC
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"Before the Worst" is passable, and could possibly be shaped into something decent. I can't see it becoming a masterpiece, but hey, baby steps. I'll give her a review and see what happens.
I don't know much about Titantic, but from a Whovian perspective, the story is... I'm sorry, I just can't see the Doctor sitting around and moping about how lonely he is and how he needs a soulmate to share his life with while Jack is on board the TARDIS. Beyond the fact that the Doctor generally keeps his angst to himself, I feel a strong urge to point out that Jack would happily be his "best mate to the one person he really loved." Actually, I'm not sure what that means, but you get the idea.
I'd still recommend you placing up the stories on "Fics-to-be-killed," seeing how you've been involved in her affairs. Surely there are other Whovian Agents in the PPC? -
I guess so... by
on 2009-01-22 09:25:00 UTC
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It was a good thought -- besides, how's she going to learn if someone does it all for her? I never learned things that way. : |
Anyway, IMO, it would be at least somewhat petty to PPC any of her 'fics. You've a good rule of thumb there, methinks. PPCing something of hers seems to me almost like giving up on her ability to improve and change, and if we all did that, well, no one would get anywhere. >.>
Well, that's just my take on it. ^^;
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Departmental question by
on 2009-01-22 11:14:00 UTC
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Who deals with a fic where there are no non-bit part OCs, and it's not a crossover or bad slash, but all the canon characters are horrifically OOC?
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You know, I was just wondering about that. by
on 2009-01-23 17:16:00 UTC
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I'd say Floaters is your best bet. That's if you can't find some other small thing to place it under another department. Bad Het, et cetera. (The one I was thinking about would probably be Bad Het.)
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Perhaps there should be a minor department for these cases? by
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Something very general, perhaps to which everything else is sort of a sub-set?
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*head-desk* Silly me. by
on 2009-01-22 21:15:00 UTC
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Something can't be both "minor" and a general umbrella. But either/or...?
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There's Bad Parody, too, if it's one of those. (nm) by
on 2009-01-22 14:18:00 UTC
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I'm sure there's a department somewhere that can cover it. by
on 2009-01-22 13:36:00 UTC
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If there's any romance at all and it's not slash, it could still fall into the Department of Bad Het. Then there's the Department of Technical Errors if it's full of spelling mistakes. Do we have a Department of Characterisation, or something along those lines? When in doubt, call on the Floaters.
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Re: I'm sure there's a department somewhere that can cover it. by
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Isn't there a Department for Out Of Character Hobbits? Or something along those lines.
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No, that was the Character Protection Agency (nm) by
on 2009-01-23 15:18:00 UTC
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Technically there's both. :P by
on 2009-01-24 15:49:00 UTC
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The DCPS (Department of Character Protective Services) assigns agents to individual canon characters. The DOOCH (Department of Out-of-Character Hobbits) deals with cases involving hobbits in general. It's run by the Authoritative Elanor (I think), wears green uniforms, and is tacitly ignored by the rest of HQ. The staff include the infamous Yellow Roses, which explains a lot. :P
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I guess you mean there are also no OCs. by
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I think it depends on your interpretation. If the characters are so OOC that they may have been replaced by other people, and these other people seem Mary Sues (or at least one of them), then the DMS could still handle it. It's a case of character replacement. Look for plotholes where the canons may be hiding and then charge and kill the Sues.
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Re: I guess you mean there are also no OCs. by
on 2009-01-22 16:56:00 UTC
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I suppose that's possible. I hope not, though - how on earth would you handle a Naruto-verse Kyuubi Sue?
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That would be the OC by
on 2009-01-22 16:58:00 UTC
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OC stands for original character. If there's a Sue, there's an OC.
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Re: That would be the OC by
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I am aware. I'm asking that if Kyuubi was in fact replaced, how on earth would the Agents manage to take out the Sue replacement of a raw embodiment of chakra and malevolence?
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By cheating, of course. :P by
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And probably, if there isn't a method in-canon, by importing something useful from out of canon and throwing logic at it. For instance: imprison said replacement in a stasis field, which stops time from passing inside it. Throw into the nearest black hole. Return to HQ for cookies and whatever.
And that's just off the top of my head.
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Re: By cheating, of course. :P by
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I suppose the original could be found and let the two of them duke it out, as the replacement, if we decide it is a replacement, has been stated to be theoretically able to die whereas the original is canonically immortal. That might involve unacceptable amounts of collateral though.
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Collateral damage? by
on 2009-01-22 21:14:00 UTC
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Wouldn't it be restored when canon snaps back-canons are unable to die before their appointed time despite anything up to and beyond decapitation and boiling-? I ask because using an MDD device from the Enderverse might be interesting...
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To an extent. by
on 2009-01-24 15:52:00 UTC
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But remember Jay and Acacia had to move some things back to their right places -- usually in crossovers, to be sure. In various spinoffs it's been established that particularly massive damage to canon doesn't snap back as easily, so needs containing and repairing by the PPC.
Besides, blowing up a planet just to deal with a 'Sue is so uncivilised. Lacks style.
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Makes pretty fireworks, though. (nm) by
on 2009-01-25 11:22:00 UTC
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Ah, I see by
on 2009-01-22 18:49:00 UTC
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Well, I'm not familiar with the fandom, so ahve no idea how someone with those "powers" could be beaten.
- Earth->Wars Sue by on 2009-01-23 17:55:00 UTC Link to this
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Wha-aat? Kill it. by
on 2009-01-25 02:00:00 UTC
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Stupid Sues, Wicca does not work that way.
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Sue+ realism = matter + antimatter (nm) by
on 2009-01-25 02:51:00 UTC
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Or perhaps pasta+antipasta? (nm) by
on 2009-01-25 18:21:00 UTC
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Humbly requesting Permission by
on 2009-01-23 20:41:00 UTC
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After skulking about here for six and half months or so, occasionally talking with folks I have finally acquired enough nerve ask for Permission (I kidnapped someone and stole their nerve).
My agents:
Jane Shackleton
Age: early thirties
Appearance: impeccable, but not particularly attractive. Dark hair and eyes, pale skin. She has a normal sized body, but she wears a corset, so her waist is immpossibly small.
Jane is a product of an ill-defined story set, due to the author's scanty knowledge of history, somewhere between the Regency and Victorian Eras. She has an obsession with manners and propriety, a penchant for pretty looking guns and lethal fans (the kind used too cool oneself, not the rabid kind), as well as a horror of technology. She refuses to even touch the consul. Jane is also a somewhat competent witch and has a secret desire to be a Jane Austen heroine, though she is more inclined towards a woman like Miss Bingley.
Oliver Shackleton
Age: late twenties
Appearance: medium height, stocky with dark unruly hair. He has glasses and is blind as a bat without them.
Oliver entirely under the thumb of his elder sister. His argues with her constantly, but always acquiesces to her requests. He used to swear like a sailor, but, due to a spell of his sister's, can't swear any longer and has to use substitutes, which infuriates him greatly. Under the influence of fellow PPCers, Oliver has become more modern, in both language and behavior, much to his sister's distress. He is also hopeless with technology, but since his sister refuses to deal with it, he has to.
Moren Armstrong Crewe III
Age: eighteen
Appearance: pale, lanky and entirely nondescript, usefuly for blending into the background which he would do admirably if he weren't so clumsy.
Moren stumbled upon the PPC while being chased by bullies from his private school. He is timid and clumsy. Violence makes him sick and he is currently unaware of how the Department of Mary Sues disposes of said Sues. Apparently, Marquis de Sod did not think to inform him.
I presume sibling teams would be frowned upon at the PPC. Upstairs has enough insanity to deal with, without that. But Jane and Oliver come as a pair. You can't get one without the other.
My writing sample is here:
http://helenofpylos.livejournal.com/
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Re: Humbly requesting Permission by
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What sort of witch is Jane? And can we have more info on this spell? What 'verse is it?
Oliver's more modern, to his sister's distress, but he has to do the technology because she won't?
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Happy to answer questions by
on 2009-01-25 01:18:00 UTC
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The type of witch she is, has to do with her past, and I haven't really gone into that yet, but mostly her power extends to keeping her hair in place when combating a Sue. A clearer explanation of the spell itself will come out as Moren becomes comfortable enough to ask.
I'm not quite certain what you're asking with your second question, but if it's what I think, then Jane is being contradictory. But she'd say that as long as Oliver doesn't /enjoy/ working with technology, she's happy, well not happy per se, but somewhat satisfied, anyway.
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But questions are good. by
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Not everything has to be revealed straight off, right? It means the answers can be revealed or discovered later.
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Just a couple technical points... by
on 2009-01-23 22:32:00 UTC
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A "consul" is an overseas diplomatic position which is often part of an embassy. The term "console" (the part of a pipe organ where the organist sits) is old enough that Jane would be familiar with it. I'd believe that she could mis-hear "you'll get your assignment from the console" as "...from the consul" the first time at least, but it shouldn't be a totally new term.
..or maybe I'm overanalyzing a typo.
Also, I'm pretty sure the Marquis de Sod needs the "the" at the front of his name - Marquis is a title, after all, rather than a first name.
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Thank you by
on 2009-01-23 22:47:00 UTC
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That was much less painless than I expected.
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Not a PG, just a friendly comment... by
on 2009-01-23 20:58:00 UTC
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I like the sound of Jane. :) All of them, actually, but Jane in particular. Very creative.
I'd like to point out a spelling error: It's "console", not "consul".
Also, if you're going to be posting regularly on livejournal, I suggest you start using LJ-cuts - it makes it easier. You can find how on the FAQ (and feel free to ask me if it's confusing). That said, may I friend you? -
Re: Not a PG, just a friendly comment... by
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The consul thing got me, sorry. And here I was thinking I'd paid such close attention. Ah well, mistakes are meant to be learning experiences.
Of course, you may friend me on livejournal. Technical savy I do not possess, sadly, and any help you can give me would be much appreciated. I won't tell you how long it took me to figure out how to transfer the document from my computer to the computer with internet access, because it's way too embarrassing. -
Well, technical stuff I can help with... by
on 2009-01-24 05:56:00 UTC
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For the LJ-cut, if you're using Rich Text Editor, there'll be a little symbol with says "Lj-cut" when you hover over it; what you need to do is highlight the text that will be hidden and click it, and a pop-up box will appear asking you for cut text, which is what the link reads so people can click on it - in this case you'd put the title of the mission.
If you're using html (which I recommend, as LJ's rich text is EVIL), you need to put:
at the beginning of your hidden text, and end it with:
Remove the spaces in both cases, and change the caps text to the mission title.
Feel free to PM me on LJ if you still have trouble. :)
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Anyone else read Scott Lynch's "The Lies of Locke Lamora"? by
on 2009-01-23 22:21:00 UTC
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Because I just finished it today and DEAR GOD IT'S AWESOME. Naturally there's not much fic for it, as always with stuff I like, but maybe that's a good thing. Anyone want to chat about the book? Please warn for spoilers if you've read the second book "Red Seas Under Red Skies", though, because I haven't. Must buy it ASAP.
Anyone else have a habit of finding undeservedly obscure books? I seem to keep finding stuff nobody in the circles I run in online has heard of. First Spellsinger, then Simon R Green's work, now this. Maybe we could make a big list of books we think other people should read, and we can go pick stuff off the list if we're bored or our parents are nagging us about what we want for our birthdays ...
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And to avoid double-posting: New mission up! by
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Part One of the sporking of a fic called "Hand Maidens", in which Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, and Draco Malfoy are dragged into a weird alternate universe by a Princess Sue and turned into beautiful handmaidens. Yeah.
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Tee hee hee. by
on 2009-01-26 12:27:00 UTC
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Doesn't brass, when worn next to the skin, discolor it to green or black?
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Depends how much you sweat by
on 2009-01-26 20:09:00 UTC
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But yes, generally brass (and electroplate-over-brass, if the electroplate is worn) will discolour your skin green if it's snug against your skin and you a) sweat a bit or b) have what the jeweller I talked to referred to as 'weird skin pH' (I haven't investigated yet to see if it IS a pH issue, so take that with a grain of salt) and, like me, cause every metal except gold to tarnish and leave colourful residues on your skin. I *used* to wear about half a pound of assorted metals on my wrists, until I realised that the amount of black and green on my skin made it look like I was a victim of domestic abuse. I also got through gallons of silver polish every month, trying in vain to keep my bangles actually silver, instead of grimy black.
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Looks like Ron will have to be taken to Medical ... by
on 2009-01-26 22:30:00 UTC
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... both to get the foetus removed and to get the green stuff scrubbed off him.
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the poor boy by
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I find that ordinary soap isn't too effective for removing tarnish from skin, but Swarfega works quite nicely, if it helps ...
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D'you like what we have so far of the mission? by
on 2009-01-27 00:08:00 UTC
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Without being too spoilery, it's going to set the foundation for a little bit of a longer storyline later in the OFUR year, so I want to get it right.
Speaking of getting it right, I have a potential joke based on Asian folklore and I don't know if it would come across as odd to use it. See, this mission is set pre-Macrovirus, so Makes-Things would still be around, and according to the Wiki he was born in Korea. Agent Drake is a vulpine shapeshifter from an anime continuum, therefore he is to all intents and purposes a kitsune. The Korean relative of the kitsune is the kumiho, which is axe-crazy evil and eats people. Drake is not any more evil than most assassins and does not eat non-Sue people, but the railgun might make people wonder about the "axe-crazy" bit. I was thinking of Makes-Things asking Drake if he's sure he's not a kumiho after Drake expresses some inclination towards violent behaviour. Does this sound okay? -
Haven't read the mission yet by
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But will when I get home from work.
The joke as you explain it would work, but without the explanation I wouldn't have got it. Some of the more anime-etc inclined agents might, though :) -
I wouldn't have got it without the SCP Foundation series. by
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Was reading them today - Google 'em if you like really scary stories. See, the internet does teach you stuff.
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Not sure. I know copper does. by
on 2009-01-26 14:49:00 UTC
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Frankly that's the least of the agents' worries at this point, but I'll still go look it up.
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Meh, it made Zotz crack up. by
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Me: Brass bra? Doesn't brass turn skin green?
Him: HAHAHAHAHA! So she would have green- (gestures)
Me: Yes. (snickers)
I love my costume jewelry, so I tend to have green fingers, wrists, and ankles.
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I'll get a reference in. Good for a gag. (nm) by
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alas by
on 2009-01-24 02:55:00 UTC
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I haven't read it. Got an online link to it? Will read it if you can give me it.
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Here's the author's site and the Amazon entry. by
on 2009-01-24 10:51:00 UTC
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lies-Locke-Lamora-Gollancz-S-F/dp/0575079754/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232794094&sr=8-1
http://www.lockelamora.co.uk/
Nice complicated worldbuilding (though I admit I'd like to know why the Bondsmagi haven't seized more power than they have, what with being superpowerful and all ... ah well, suspension of disbelief), characters who are awesometastic without being too Stuish, lots of blood and gore and cussing. Fun all round. -
Ooh, it's been a while... by
on 2009-01-24 02:53:00 UTC
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...but yes, must agree. Pure win. And "Red Seas Under Red Skies" is fantastic as well.
Hm...let me think... "East" by Edith Pattou is good, as well as the David Valentine series by an author whose name I can't remember off of the top of my head.
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WTFF?!?!?!?! by
on 2009-01-24 18:04:00 UTC
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Found this over on scansdaily. You have to wonder about the intelligence of American bureaucrats sometimes. The entire thing is as posted, with no edits by myself. (I.e., I am not to blame for any spelling or grammar errors.)
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CPSIA sounds like a supervillian plot. Unfortunately this law is all too real... How can one US law result in censorship, banning kids from libraries, bankrupt schools, cultural genocide, and taking away vital items from the disabled?
Oh yeah, and may result in many comic series being canceled of significantly increasing the price. And absolutely crushing many small presses. Censorship under another name.
Read on beyond the cut... prepare to be angry and disbelieving.
The Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA H.R. 4040) had a good goal: protect kids from dangerous imports tainted with lead. Bravo! Unfortunately it goes about doing so in such a way that it’ll drive up costs across the board, drive many manufacturers and retailers out of business, and not really make kids any safer. And will mean many kids comics cease production.
Oh yeah, and throw in bankrupting schools, forcing libraries to ban children, and taking away products from the disabled.
So what does CPSIA do? It mandates lead testing for ALL items intended for children under 13 or PERCEIVED as being for those under age 13. So items commonly regarded as “kids stuff” even if it is intended for adults, such as many comics, plushes, animation, collectible action figures, etc, still falls under the statute even though they’re aimed at adult collectors.
It requires UNIT testing. The final product must be tested from each batch. It doesn’t matter if all the components going into it are certified and have been tested as having no lead, it still must be tested for lead. This includes even things made entirely out of certified organic products!
Here’s an example. You publish comics for kids. You're a small publisher and print two different comics with all the same materials, on the same day, on the same press, with the same crew manning it. You must test Captain Awesome and the Miss Amazing separately because they may contain lead!
This basically seems to imply that somehow alchemy works. Non-lead containing item + non-lead containing item= LEAD! It also implies that somehow a different arrangement of the words and pictures inside will generate lead.
And let's not forget that CPSIA also covers things PERCEIVED as being for those 12 and under. Which covers virtually all the comics except the porn. Comics are considered kids stuff. There's 0% lead risk from reading comics.
The manufacturer needs to provide a testing certificate to the retailer, which must be available for inspection, should a Consumer Product Safety Administration inspector come in. No certificate, the retailer can’t sell it. (watch many recent back issues vanish from your comic shop come February)
Objects without a certification have to be tested. So those copies of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows that were printed in 2007 that are still available new at Amazon may have to be destroyed as of February 10th 2009 because they haven’t been tested for lead. (Amazon is taking this seriously and sent a mail to all affiliates asking them to provide the lead testing certificates for all items)
How bad can the punishment be? For selling books and comics? Up to $100,000 PER ITEM and up to five years in jail. It’s also a felony. Get busted, you may lose your right to vote in some states. Even if you can fight it in court, you’ll likely go broke doing so and your local newspaper will carry the headline “Local business selling lead tainted goods”… even though you know they aren’t. Good luck getting them to print the retraction months or years later after that PR disaster.
This includes not just selling, but distribution. So you can’t donate the untested goods to your local library, Good Will, or literacy program. You also can’t sell them to overseas collectors either, as they’re illegal to export. (preventing dumping of truly toxic goods on third world markets is one of the few good portions of this law. Good job on that, bad job on the rest)
The American Library Association is FURIOUS because this basically means as of February 10th, they can't lend children's books... or they'll have to ban kids from libraries. the press release from the American Library Association
Is our children learning?
The law also has an inherent flaw: it assumes that laws weren't strict enough. It's not the laws weren't strict enough, it's that the existing ones weren't enforced!
The original problem was lead in Chinese imports. China's lead standard is stricter the US. It was at the time of the problem. (it's 90 PPM US standard is now 600PPM) The Chinese just aren't enforcing it. Or they're outright forging the documents. Or finding ways to game the test. The entire melamine fiasco was due to them gaming a different test. cheating to get around the test produced the problem!
CPSIA requires additional third party testing and documentation. Easily forged documentation. And self-reporting. Criminals do not report their crimes to the police! Assuming they will do so is absolute IDIOCY!
The original problem will still be there, it'll just now be even harder to find due to the mountain of unneccessary paperwork! Testing items that have never had any problem with lead for lead is like looking for terrorists in Antarctica. Sure, it looks like you're being thorough, but its just wasting time and money that could be used actually dealing with the problem.
What to do? Write your Congressman. You can look up the mailing info for your Congressman and Senators through House.gov and Senate.gov Call them on the phone too! Some of them may have a staffer dedicated to handling inquiries or willing to tell you which of the many addresses will get the mail in your representatives hands fastest.
You can find more info on CPSIA on:
Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act
CPSIA FAQ
Ning site with centralized info
Washington Post Article on CPSIA
latest updates via Twitter
Native American tribes call CPSIA a form of forced assimilation and cultural genocide
<a href="http://wikis.ala.org/professionaltips/index.php/ConsumerProductSafetyImprovementAct(CPSIA)">American Library Association wiki on CPSIA
You can call the hotline and leave a message at: 202-225-4434
Books are probably the most outrageous part of this law but here's some other things it affects:
* textbooks
* musical instruments
* bicycles
* sports equipment- including the safety equipment!
* publications for the blind
* materials for special needs children. Wheelchair? NONE FOR YOU.
* science equipment
* winter coats
The testing for some items ranges into the thousands of dollars. For items for very niche markets, particularly special needs children, this may mean some products simply become totally unavailable due to the cost. Even if you have no children, the cost to US school systems will be astronomical... and it'll be a direct hit to your property taxes. If your school district or state government is already teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, this may be the shove that sends it over the edge. (Californians, I'm looking at you)
Com members that aren't US residents, write your consulate. This affects all IMPORTS as well, including stuff that's already been tested to within an inch of its life in the EU and Canada. And BOOKS printed there. Doesn't matter that it meets even stricter standards than in the US, it has to go through another round of tests.
Original post by fenrislorsai can be found <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/scansdaily/7068924.html">here. -
And, suddenly by
on 2009-01-28 01:18:00 UTC
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I'm thanking the gods that I'm over thirteen, and therefore will still be able to get into libraries if they do have to ban kids. Seriously, what in all the hells were these people thinking?
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They just want to prove the truth behind the movie "Idocracy by
on 2009-01-25 04:40:00 UTC
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
If you haven:t seen this movie yet, highly recomended. Do you see any parallels?
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Pfft. Idiocy. That's why I'm glad to live in New Zealand. (nm) by
on 2009-01-24 21:04:00 UTC
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Not just here. by
on 2009-01-24 21:25:00 UTC
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If you get anything imported from the US, it'll effect you too~
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But not nearly as much. by
on 2009-01-25 01:26:00 UTC
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If I request a DVD through a local shop they deal with all the fuss, not me - I just have to wait a few weeks. No extra charge.
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Ah, America. by
on 2009-01-24 19:55:00 UTC
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Doesn't our logic just kick butt?
Sarcasm aside, I am despairing. I won't even go into what the governor of my lovely state is doing. Let us just say it involves cutting funding to universities by 48%. And nuclear waste. But no! I'm not going into it! *smacks self* -
And him trying to kill everybody who lives in his state. by
on 2009-01-27 01:25:00 UTC
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I swear, every time I try to convince myself not all Americans are evil, something comes along to prove me wrong. Why does Obama believe we can change?
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Bad fic's by
on 2009-01-24 22:21:00 UTC
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Hi I'm new. This is the first time I've visited the board but I've been reading the missions for awhile.
I found a few fics while I was surfing fanfiction that I think need to be looked at.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4415773/1/Twilight_Meets_Warriors
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4570186/1/Warriors_of_Starclan
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3719923/1/If_Tigerstar_Wrote_Warriors -
Fire, anyone? by
on 2009-01-27 10:46:00 UTC
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And acid, just in case fire isn't enough.
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*arrives late... again* by
on 2009-01-26 16:03:00 UTC
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Welcome, and have a Prinny suit. *re-vanishes from the Board*
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Hallo! by
on 2009-01-26 05:21:00 UTC
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Have a graduated cylinder! It's got a headscarf instead of the usual graduation cap because I've been watching BSG. What?
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Hail and Well-Met! by
on 2009-01-26 02:01:00 UTC
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Here's a bottle of bleepka, and 2K monies!
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Welcomes! by
on 2009-01-25 17:33:00 UTC
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I gift thee with a bag of pebbles and a Random Shiny Object.
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First plover! by
on 2009-01-25 16:48:00 UTC
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Will your Agents be based in a TARDIS or a Response Center?
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Re: First plover! by
on 2009-01-25 21:10:00 UTC
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I think that they will be placed in a response center
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See? We don't bite. by
on 2009-01-25 03:10:00 UTC
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Yes, I am still ridiculously gleeful I managed to drag you into the madness.
Hurrah, one more person for the Symphonian crusade~!
Welcome to the Board, Kailani. ^_^ -
Thanks by
on 2009-01-25 03:27:00 UTC
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Thank you all for the warm welcome. :)
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Welcome! First poke! (and Links) by
on 2009-01-25 01:29:00 UTC
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Nice to meet you. Welcome to madness :)
Have you had a chance to read the original series? I assume so, but if not, please do check it out. Also, feel free to look around the PPC Wiki and particularly the article on Permission.
Now that the beaurocracy is out of the way, have some Convenient Cake. :) -
Welcome! (nm) by
on 2009-01-25 02:12:00 UTC
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Salutations! by
on 2009-01-25 00:08:00 UTC
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*bows* Welcome to the Board! Please deposit your sanity in the provided receptacle. *holds out box marked "Warg fodder"* We don't tend to have much need for things like that here. Have some Suenicorn jerky! It's been put through detox, which negates the side effects. Usually.
And I agree with you- those are horrible fics.
-Mad Maudlin
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Urgent Discworld jobs by
on 2009-01-25 21:45:00 UTC
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4766647/1/Teatime_Punished Department of Bad Slash, NSFB
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4222800/1/HOSTAGE Department of Bad Het, later chapters NSFW
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4093052/1/What_neverr Department of Bad Slash, NSFW, luckily the author cuts it short as she realises she can't write smut.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3988389/1/When_Binky_Met_Squish Department of WTF -
Adding another one to avoid spamming the Board by
on 2009-01-28 16:44:00 UTC
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Harry Potter's great Discworld adventure
A crossover between Discworld, Harry Potter and Dr Who! Discworld's Wizardry is soon in trouble. Can the intervention of Harry Potter the unfortunate victim of a Stibbons magic experiment save it? And I'm sure this teacher called the Master is harmless -
you WHAT?! by
on 2009-01-29 01:41:00 UTC
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Claim. Haven't even looked yet, but three fandoms I know all in one? A chance to get Agent Trojie into the Whoniverse? Sounds good to me.
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Well, the connecttion to the Whoniverse is very shaky... by
on 2009-01-29 07:15:00 UTC
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For that matter, so is the connection to Discworld. Most of the characters Harry meets are Expies of Harry Potter characters.
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doesn't matter by
on 2009-01-30 03:53:00 UTC
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We're still killing it. I showed it to Trojie and she was horrified. Then we remembered we've still got the New Pie kicking around in a box somewhere...
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I suppose we could... by
on 2009-01-26 14:43:00 UTC
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That is, if no one else decides to be brave. Although Trojie and I aren't actually feeling all that masochistic at the moment, and we can't understand this whole Teatime/Carcer thing either. So we'll consider taking missions one and three if and only if no one else will take them.
The Bad Het one's rather more of a possibility, since it's actually got grammar and line breaks. We shall consult. -
*suspicious* by
on 2009-01-26 20:07:00 UTC
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I thought you two got banned from Discworld
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*innocent face* Now who told you a thing like that? by
on 2009-01-27 00:13:00 UTC
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Technically it's only Agent Trojie who's banned from the Disc. Pads is allowed in ...
Also, our malfunctioning attempt to steal missions we want could probably throw one of them up, at least. They'd probably get caught, though. It's about time Trojie actually got punished for her lackadaisical attitude to proper mission procedure and her bad habits in-fics. -
I might be able to help... by
on 2009-01-26 01:59:00 UTC
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I have a lot of background knowledge in Discworld. I've been reading the books since I was about 11 (I'm 16 now), and I am looking for something to do for a first mission, once I get my writing sample in...
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Re: I might be able to help... by
on 2009-01-26 09:17:00 UTC
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I'll probably take a couple of them if they still need doing by the time I get round to them. Until I'm a bit more eperienced, though, I'd like my missions to be places with something resembling a plot.
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Mission Plug! by
on 2009-01-26 00:22:00 UTC
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That's right, dudes and dudettes, the first day back from my sunny summer holiday and Pads and I have a shiny mission for the new year for you all to enjoy!
Bottled Feelings: http://agenttrojie.livejournal.com/62395.html
In which there is much randomness, much pronoun confusion, and quite a lot of mini-things. Warnings are for wtf, femmeslash, technical errors etc.
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Ngh! by
on 2009-01-27 17:23:00 UTC
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Yeah, I think what tore it for Trojie did the same for me. WTF indeed... well, a good mission from you guys, I think I need to give my brain a dousing.
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I recommend throwing yourself in the Fountain of Bleepka by
on 2009-01-27 20:49:00 UTC
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Works well, until those busybodies from Medical haul you out and try to resuscitate you ...
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Yay, shiny! by
on 2009-01-26 01:25:00 UTC
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You ladies always do good work. The "that doesn't go there!" moment in this was great. *g*
Sharing a bed... this clearly can only end one way. Or have I been reading too many bad slash missions?
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*blush* by
on 2009-01-26 01:27:00 UTC
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You're reading it the right way ... Trojie's resistance at this point in time is rapidly becoming only token ...
Glad you liked!
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Query regarding badfic status? by
on 2009-01-26 01:54:00 UTC
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I am unsure about whether a Warhammer 40K badfic called "Squad Broken!" has been PPCed already, and if it has not, where I can find a link to it. This is probably near suicidal, because it is badfic and I have read a synopsis of it, but I would like to see if it could be sporked...
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If it's PPCed by
on 2009-01-26 10:29:00 UTC
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there would hopefully be a mention of it on the PPCwiki in the article called "Killed Badfic".
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I found it! by
on 2009-01-26 20:00:00 UTC
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It apparently got deleted from the Pit of Voles. It's short and squicky. Kind of like a 40K version of C*l*br**n, but much shorter...
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Also contains mission plug by
on 2009-01-26 22:14:00 UTC
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Loose Ends Canon character is kidnapped by Sue that threatens to kill him; when she doesn't he falls in love with her and takes her to a remote cabin. PPC agents think that is an unlikely scenario and step in (and try to steal the snacks). [A-Team]
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Nicely done. by
on 2009-01-27 00:59:00 UTC
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One of these days I might actually manage to familiarize myself with that canon, but atrocities are atrocities no matter how you slice 'em.
The interaction between your Agents is usually fun to watch, and that trend continues; you had me laughing out loud at points. ^_^ -
thanks. (nm) by
on 2009-01-27 10:41:00 UTC
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Mission plug~ by
on 2009-01-27 00:50:00 UTC
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So yeah.
It's funny, there'll be none for weeks and all of a sudden three or four finished at once. People in general, not me by myself, 'cause wow, I'd have to have a lot more spare time on my hands.
Behold.
I do realize probably a grand total of two people that hang around will know the fandom. But that's okay. Really. -
Nice! by
on 2009-01-29 13:33:00 UTC
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Know nothing of the fandom but the name, but that's okay. Still much fun!
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Yay by
on 2009-01-27 23:28:00 UTC
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It was good, they always are : )
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Nice job. by
on 2009-01-27 21:49:00 UTC
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I wasn't even bothered by the centering. That was an interesting twist when Kat pointed it out. *g*
Also, I like the way you handled the first person part. Now I'm trying to imagine how my agents would react under similar circumstances. *snicker*
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A good read. by
on 2009-01-27 16:57:00 UTC
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I had no clue about a lot of the canonical elements but you made this fun to read nonetheless, so as far as I'm concered you've done a great job :).
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Thanks a bunch~ =) (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 05:45:00 UTC
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excellent! by
on 2009-01-27 15:46:00 UTC
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I haven't the foggiest what the continuum even is, let alone anything about it, but that was nonetheless very enjoyable, and all made sense.
Spotted one tiny punctuation mistake: "“Jade’s not ‘old-looking,’ if the official data ..." - that comma after old-looking should be after the quotation mark too.
The centre-justification was a nice touch, and excellent use of agent-stuck-in-first-person.
Oh, and if you want to finish three or four missions at once, the trick is to find really short, really horrible ones. The more horrible the better, because ideally you want "so bad you can only write a sentence at a time before running off to a different mission". Thus you get to write many at once, although admittedly the downside is severe brain breakage. -
I'm seeing a pattern. ^_^ by
on 2009-01-28 05:42:00 UTC
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I just like tucking punctuation inside quotes.
Seriously though, maybe I should just get you to beta for punctuation in your no doubt copious free time. =P
Brain breakage could be a problem.
And good thing it made sense. Heh, I'd be a lot more worried if it didn't. Thanks. =) -
Re: I'm seeing a pattern. ^_^ by
on 2009-01-28 16:05:00 UTC
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And I just like going through other people's stuff with a red pen. It's a dreadful habit, I know. But yes, I'll happily beta anything you've got. Don't count on the free time lasting though - I graduate in four and a half months.
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Ooh, fun. by
on 2009-01-27 13:59:00 UTC
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The thing about a good PPC mission is that you can enjoy it without knowing the canon. What's an Oracle Knight? Where's Malkuth? What do ligers have to do with this fandom? I haven't the faintest idea, but it's still fun to read. So good mission. Very enjoyable.
I need more synonyms.
hS -
Thesaurus? by
on 2009-01-28 05:44:00 UTC
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*shot*
Yeah.
Ligers are not the traditional earth ligers. >.>
Here's a picture. The beastie in the cage -- not the girl -- that's a ToA liger. Cute, no? =P -
Adorable. :P (nm) by
on 2009-01-29 23:11:00 UTC
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Yay! by
on 2009-01-27 06:19:00 UTC
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Shiny new mission :3
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Any BSG fans? by
on 2009-01-27 02:23:00 UTC
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Cos I've found two BSG fics with OCs in them, and I want to know if any of you think they're Mary Sues or just borderline. Or even not at all.
The first one is Lt. Kameron O'Neill, who has a spiffy viper.
The second one is Lauren, farm girl turned pilot.
And there was a definite Suefic I found on marysues, but the accompanying story's gone and the Suethor's being all defensive-bitchy ("No no no, my character is not a Mary Sue even if she married Lee and is Prez Roslin's niece! No no no!"). Go figure.
I'm mainly asking this because I'd like to do some missions in that fandom. Like some temporary transfers and such. :] -
I've been remiss. by
on 2009-01-27 02:45:00 UTC
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I used to like BSG, but I've sort of fallen off the wagon in the past... er... four, five years? ^^;
The first one is almost certainly a 'Sue, though. I mean, come on. Kameron = boyish-sounding ordinary name changed to make it look cooler -- when was the last time you encountered someone named Kameron? I'll grant I don't remember naming conventions for the canon, but it doesn't seem likely. O'Neill just makes me think of Jack O'Neill from SG1, but anyway...
The waterfall of soft wavy brown hair is about five marks against her, as far as I'm concerned.
I can't say as to the second one, though she definitely seems at least very borderline, just from the way it starts out.
I am suddenly reminded that I owe you a 'fic. (Aragorn/Arwen post-war fluff, wasn't it?)
I'm having issues with it, but I'm sure I'll put it together eventually. (Just seriously don't expect anything over a thousand words, I don't think I can manage that. ^^;) -
Well, I also owe you a pic. by
on 2009-01-27 02:59:00 UTC
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Samuel and Kat, right? I have it drawn, just not posted. >.
Well, I don't know much about naming conventions as well, but I'm sure Kameron is not much of a choice name for a kid. But then, this is the canon where people are named Leland, Doral, and Six. ;] -
Nice and equal then. ^^ by
on 2009-01-27 03:14:00 UTC
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Correct indeed~
I swear I'll get on my end before February.
Really.
Leland totally just made me think of Lelouch, Six could be put up to translation/strange parents -- I mean, I've been looking through Japanese names lately (long story) and there's far too many that seem to be made of number+son/daughter. o.O
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Ok. Now I'm certain this one is a Mary Sue. by
on 2009-01-28 03:46:00 UTC
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Laura's daughter. Sue is, of course, Prez Roslin's daughter. Her blood is spiffy. And she's apparently the most be-yoot-iful teenaged girl Laura's ever seen. *eyeroll*
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Oh yeah. by
on 2009-01-28 19:21:00 UTC
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No two ways about it.
I'd offer my assistance for the kill, but I'm still regrettably out of touch with BSG canon. Um... best of luck? ^^; -
I think I'm losing faith in fellow BSG fanwriters... by
on 2009-01-29 02:04:00 UTC
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Just came across another fic where Bill Adama's a vampire. And he has a vampire daughter. And he's the frakking prince of Caprica City. What the frak???
I think I'll have to transfer my agents into Freelance or something because now I have three BSG fics on my plate. >.
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That'll happen. by
on 2009-02-01 02:16:00 UTC
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Every fandom gets its vampire!fics. And other horrible ones.
But then again, sometimes you run into the ones who totally make all the others worth it. One goodfic is worth probably at least twenty badfics.
By the way, I actually do have something for you. Only I've no idea what to do with it now. >.> Help? -
You can email it to me. *points above* by
on 2009-02-01 02:17:00 UTC
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That's true. I've PPC'd the Vamp!fic and the Kameron O'Neill fic. :]
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So industrious~ by
on 2009-02-01 05:29:00 UTC
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Already PPC'd? o.O I feel positively sloth-like now. But good! Those needed it. Grr.
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I'll definetly need it. >. by
on 2009-01-28 23:08:00 UTC
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I guess my heart's still too soft in terms of BSG. Cos it's my new fandom and all...
*shrugs* Good hunting to me, good hunting to me...let's send her out (an) airlock, good hunting to me...
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PPC Movie - Rough Scene Edits! by
on 2009-01-27 08:17:00 UTC
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A teaser/preview for you lovely people - scenes from the PPC Movie. These are rough edits as of yet, and are made available on the intarwubs thanks to the spiffy Kgarrett
[Scene 01: Intro/Titles is music-only - listen to 'Dies Irae' to set the mood if you feel like it ^_^]
02: Exposition: http://www.upload-mp3.com/pfiles/54334/02%20Exposition.mp3 (featuring Platinumyo as the Narrator)
03: DoSAT Return to HQ: http://www.upload-mp3.com/pfiles/54335/03%20DoSAT%20Return%20to%20HQ.mp3 (Featuring Techno-Dann as, uh, Techno-Dann and Lily Winterwood as Tess)
[Scene 04: Mary Sue Factory: A Slight Delay is unavailable due to not having some of the voices yet]
05: Agent Morgan Awakes: http://www.upload-mp3.com/pfiles/54338/05%20Agent%20Morgan%20Awakes.mp3 (featuring Cassie as Morgan)
06: Sabbat and Archer Break Out: http://www.upload-mp3.com/pfiles/54336/06%20Sabbat%20and%20Archer%20Break%20Out.mp3 (featuring Fynn as Sabbat and Pigeonarmy as Archer)
and 39: July and Library Join the Massacre: http://www.upload-mp3.com/pfiles/54337/39%20July%20and%20Library%20Join%20the%20Massacre.mp3 (featuring JulyFlame as July and Sara as Library and included because I already had it up and running and thought 'why not?')
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Finally had a chance to listen! Good job! :D (nm) by
on 2009-01-30 07:34:00 UTC
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Can't get to 'em. by
on 2009-01-28 01:27:00 UTC
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It says that they've been viewed too many times or are using up too much bandwidth. Sadness. :-(
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Look a bit further down - I reposted them to Box.net (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 01:29:00 UTC
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Hah, ignore that last. (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 01:27:00 UTC
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Re: PPC Movie - Rough Scene Edits! by
on 2009-01-27 18:46:00 UTC
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I still haven't recorded my lines, due to college eating my time/brain. I will do it as soon as I a) find my headset/'borrow' my brother's and b) manage to get some quiet time where you won't hear either my brother's fake Scottish accent from the next room or my brother's music.
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You're not the only one, don't worry by
on 2009-01-27 20:50:00 UTC
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I have faith that it'll all get done :)
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Re: You're not the only one, don't worry by
on 2009-01-27 21:12:00 UTC
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Getting it done depends on biology not exploding my brain. You won't kill me if I say that it's the most boring class I have, will you?
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Not at all :) by
on 2009-01-27 21:14:00 UTC
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I'll offer to help explain anything that's tricky or try and make some of the most boring bits sound more interesting, though, if you like. It's aaaall in how it's explained.
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Re: Not at all :) by
on 2009-01-27 21:19:00 UTC
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You try learning anything from a tutor who likes the sound of his own voice enough to talk for practically two hours straight, even to the point of asking a question and then not waiting for an answer before he starts saying something that he's already said several times that lesson.
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aah. I've had a few of those. by
on 2009-01-27 21:23:00 UTC
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Srsly, if there's anything I can help with, you know where I am. And that there's nothing I like more than trying to explain and enthuse to people about subjects I adore :D
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Re: aah. I've had a few of those. by
on 2009-01-27 22:44:00 UTC
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Have you ever done staining of cell samples for microscopy?
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Yep. What stain are you using? by
on 2009-01-27 22:47:00 UTC
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And on what kind of cells? I only did basic stuff, but I did do some. And if you're identifying cell structures I can help with that :)
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Re: Yep. What stain are you using? by
on 2009-01-27 22:54:00 UTC
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The rant about the disaster that was today is on my LJ.
I just want to know if Fast (light) green stain comes out of human skin. Accidentally got some on me because someone couldn't be bothered to wipe down the outside of the bottle after using it and managing to spill it. -
Well, it'll eventually *wear* off by
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I'm not sure if it'll wash off, but try Swarfega and scrub.
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I've just noticed something. by
on 2009-01-27 14:17:00 UTC
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On reading over the collected roleplay, I noticed that Morgan's partner's name has been misspelled on the two occasions she's mentioned. She should be Traf, not Tarff, and I'm not sure how that happened, since I know I would've noticed if July's reply had had that incorrect version. Anyway, I don't know if that's carried over into your scripts. It's not a big problem (and to be honest no one other than me will notice :P) but, yeah.
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I don't recall seeing such a misspelling in the scripts ... by
on 2009-01-27 20:48:00 UTC
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but I'll go over them again to check. Can't have that sort of thing floating around!
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ou wouldn't have seen that, Troj. I fixed it. by
on 2009-02-20 17:29:00 UTC
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I spotted the mistake and put it right, being the helpful spelling freak and walking PPC encyclopaedia that I am.
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Files can't be viewed. by
on 2009-01-27 08:31:00 UTC
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Used up too much bandwidth or had too many views, apparently.
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So, uh, is that a problem our end or yours? by
on 2009-01-27 08:33:00 UTC
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*is a technology fail all by herself*
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No idea by
on 2009-01-27 08:39:00 UTC
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All I know is I get this message:
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Okay, NEW LINK by
on 2009-01-27 08:49:00 UTC
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Anticlimactic though this is, files can now be found HERE:
http://www.box.net/shared/2xbkhkp528
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I don't know if anyone else has had this problem... by
on 2009-02-01 20:36:00 UTC
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But for most of the audio I only get audio through one speaker (one-channel audio, or whatever). I... don't think that's a good thing.
And I have to say that I imagined most people's voices differently, that's my problem and I'm not very good at imagining voices, so...
And I'd make a commentary on some phrasing, but since the lines have been recorded it would be kinda stupid. So I'ma going to go away now. -
The speaker thing is odd ... by
on 2009-02-01 20:39:00 UTC
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... it's only one-channel, but said one-channel ought to come out of both of your speakers.
As to phrasing of lines - the dialogue in almost every case is exactly how it was written by various people during the RP :) We didn't want to fiddle with the original material at all if we could help it. -
It alternated. by
on 2009-02-01 20:44:00 UTC
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Which meant that I ended up having to turn up the volume to hear the Exposition and then had to quickly pull my headphones off when both channels started, randomly, blaring. *rubs ears* Yeow.
And it was just 'Multiverse' said perhaps one too many times in very close proximity to itself. I notice that kind of thing, but one supposes that there aren't many synonyms, so... *shrug* Just thinking about a rule I read once, that anything but pronouns and proper nouns shouldn't be repeated within fifteen words. So a repeat within three seemed like too much. However, if that's how it was written, I'll leave it alone.
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It might be worth remembering... by
on 2009-02-03 01:38:00 UTC
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... that there's movement going on in some of those scenes. I know Morgan wanders through a couple of rooms between some of her lines. So some of the proximity problems might be that. But I don't know, of course.
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Hmm, I'm afraid I haven't a clue why that is. by
on 2009-02-01 20:47:00 UTC
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But I am going to be working on standardising volume across the entire thing, so hopefully it'll be fixed.
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I hope so! I look forward to hearing the finished product :) (nm by
on 2009-02-01 21:48:00 UTC
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Indeed, tis good by
on 2009-01-27 08:58:00 UTC
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Unfortunately the average PPCer doesn't have studio-quality microphones, though, it seems :P
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Well, no, but neither will we have studio quality anything by
on 2009-01-27 09:00:00 UTC
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I'll do my best to polish them some more before the final cut, but best to remember that this is an amateur effort :)
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Mind if I leave a commentary here? by
on 2009-01-27 13:51:00 UTC
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I thought you wouldn't. :P
They're very quiet. For scene 2 I had to have my headphones on and volume to maximum, and that was about the volume I'd expect it to be at normal level. So you'll definitely need to up the volume when you finalise them. Other than that, the intro's good. Very ominous. :P
Scene 3, a bit louder (good). Obviously the tracks need fiddling a bit, as you say (might I recommend you pay particular attention to the slight click on and off on each clip? A very brief fade effect might help with that, or if you can find a static removing function that'd be even better). At the moment my ears are too busy adjusting to the sudden background hiss to understand much of what Tess is saying. And. Er. The third voice later is either Tess with a reverb on or a Flower. I can't tell which, and I can't actually make out anything it says. So. Yeah.
Scene 5 is great, and I don't just say that because I wrote it. :P Obviously some of that is the fact that it's a single microphone not having to change, but it's at a decent volume and I can understand it. It's rather spooky without context, but that comes later.
Scene 6: decent volume, I can understand most of it, but there's a lot of variation in how the voices sound. Not so much a problem when you've got visuals, but at the moment it sounds like there's about five people there. And, again, the differing background noises leave that slight delay in understanding.
As a note on that, you could try adding a single background noise to the entire scene (air conditioning or something :P), and then including a slight (quarter second, even) fade at the beginning and end of each line. That'd make the backgrounds less noticable, and might facilitate understanding.
Ah, if only audio editing was as easy as fiddling with pictures...
Scene 39 I've heard before, but somehow sounds better now. Not sure whether you've edited or not. It still has slight clicks at the end of lines, but a bit of background noise (which is basically required for the Tomb) will mask that perfectly. And I can understand the Flower, too. So I have only good things to say about that scene. And it makes the problems I noted with the previous ones look likely to go byebye. So good. ;)
I'd offer my help for editing the audio here, but I suspect you've got it pretty much in hand. If you do need me to help out, though, well, you know where I am.
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*looks somewhat embarrassed* by
on 2009-01-28 08:48:00 UTC
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Er...the variation in scene 6...that would be me, wouldn't it? *recorded those while still using a bad mic, and trying to get the accent + pitch of voice sorted*
I can redo those if you want, now I've got a better mic, and I've worked out the accent he needs a bit more. *hopeful* -
Re-records would be cool if you want to do them by
on 2009-01-28 20:08:00 UTC
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Otherwise I'm sure I can fiddle more with the ones I have ... But yes, if you would like to, rerecorded lines would be awesome :)
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Will do them this weekend, then. by
on 2009-01-28 20:25:00 UTC
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*is grateful for the chance, as wincing when you listen to your own voice is never good*
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Sweetbix *is grateful for her dedicated voice actors* (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 20:26:00 UTC
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Don't mention it.*is grateful for the chance for a redo* (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 20:33:00 UTC
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Commentary gratefully received! by
on 2009-01-27 20:48:00 UTC
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Audio effects are still being fiddled with, so comments like these are very helpful and will definitely be taken on board :)
You're right, I'm hoping that the addition of the visuals will help differentiate between everyone's voices, but as it is I'm going to need to recut Scene 5 anyway - the disparities between how the two actors recorded their lines and then how I had to pitch-alter one of them for some reason confuses Audacity mightily and meant a need for some serious fiddling around with rates ... so that one's in line for probably the most drastic alteration. -
I didn't have volume issues... by
on 2009-01-27 20:38:00 UTC
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Not using my headphones, anyway. Haven't tried listening with my speakers.
Anyway, Scene 2 is good. There are a few places where it sounds like Plat is stumbling over the words, but the point gets across.
Scene 3 - yeah, I agree that the reverb makes it difficult to understand the speaker, whether it's Tess or someone else.
Scene 5 - Good work.
Scene 6 - Agreed, lots of variation in the voices, and I can't always understand them.
Scene 39 - I still can't understand anything in the announcement aside from "All agents" and "get your butts down here, now." It goes too fast and there are too many Ss. Esses. Sibilants. {= P Maybe cutting down on the echo effect would help? Also, I did notice that this scene seems to be louder than the others.
As for lines... yeah... um... I haven't been able to find a quiet, roommate-free moment (when I didn't have homework) all year. I still want to do it, though. *sorrowful kitty face*
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yay, more comments! by
on 2009-01-27 20:53:00 UTC
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Okay, so it seems to me that the best plan will be to *standardise* the volume across scenes, at least, and to try and do even more noise removal.
The echo effect for the Flowers/psychics definitely needs work, agreed. I'll see what I can do about toning it down. -
Hmm. Let me confer with the boffins .... (nm) by
on 2009-01-27 08:40:00 UTC
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Present and reporting for duty! by
on 2009-01-27 08:30:00 UTC
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Consider this a formal request for Permission. You've met my Agents Mulhoon and Render,and they're itching to get on with the missions.
Well, no, they're really not, but sucks to be them, eh?
Claimed fic: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2004296/1/Middle_Earth_Chaos - Okay, I've edited the offending lines by on 2009-01-30 23:24:00 UTC Link to this
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... oh, all right, then. Permission granted. by
on 2009-01-31 00:15:00 UTC
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You show commendable skill at (and willingness about) editing when there's a problem. So you can have permission, on the condition that you find a beta who's familiar with PPC canon, in case you make any (minor, I'm sure) errors with respect to the Original Series. It's not uncommon, and I've had a great time sorting out some of mine. :P
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Why, thank you! by
on 2009-01-31 00:44:00 UTC
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I'm not sure what you mean by commendable skill though - all I did was make it a little less glowing in description of Mulhoon.
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Meanwhile, I could use some advice by
on 2009-01-29 22:02:00 UTC
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I've started work on my first mission (don't worry, I won't post it until I get Permission), and I could use a couple of pointers.
1) What would be the probable charge for making Legolas shout "Why is the rum gone?"
2) What's the Potterverse law of magic that prevents wizards from making food?
3) Am I right in thinking that under Potterverse magic rules, it's impossible to create something from nothing?
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Errr... by
on 2009-02-02 12:55:00 UTC
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1) Perhaps "utter idiocy" would apply? I think that counts as a crossover, although I could be wrong. "Stealing lines"?
2) Gamp's or something. Ask Hermione.
3) Probably you are.
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Re: Meanwhile, I could use some advice by
on 2009-01-30 00:21:00 UTC
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5) What's accepted procedure for a crossover with no Sues? How do you make the author wraith manifest to readthe charges at it?
*has a feeling this is in TOS, but is too tired now to go look. Will feel very silly if it is.* -
exorcism (nm) by
on 2009-01-30 02:37:00 UTC
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Re: Meanwhile, I could use some advice by
on 2009-01-29 22:40:00 UTC
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- "Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp’s Law of Elemental Transfiguration." -- Hermione.
3. You're wrong on that one. Some things, like food, can't be created, merely summoned or increased or whatever. Other things can be. It's Gamp's again. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Gamp%27s_Law_of_Elemental_Transfiguration
4. Legolas's height isn't specifically given. I believe they're meant to be tall, definitely over six foot. Beyond that, couldn't say.
- "Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp’s Law of Elemental Transfiguration." -- Hermione.
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Anyone? by
on 2009-01-29 21:01:00 UTC
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Do I have Permission, and if not, what do I need to do to get it?
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Hoom! Do not be hasty! (Need another PG) by
on 2009-01-29 21:14:00 UTC
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... yeah, couldn't resist that. Let's see now.
I'm rather worried by the description of Mulhoon as a "legend". In fact, this section:
Mulhoon was something of a legend in the PPC, as being near impossible to disturb. He was regularly sent on missions to the most graphic fics, and rarely if ever actually took Bleeprin.
... concerns me. It is possible to make a 'Sue or 'Stu in the PPC, and being undisturbable is one way to do so. So is claiming to be legendary -- I did that once, but later rewrote that passage to indicate that the agents in question thought /themselves/ legendary, while leaving the actual state of affairs open. The obvious question is, if he's a legend, why has no one ever talked about him before now?
So I don't know. On the flip side, I do like Render. He's well characterised, and looks like he could develop well. So... yeah, I don't know. Those are my comments, but I'm not going to make a decision. I'll leave it open for someone else to say yea or nay. Or yay! or neigh! depending on their preferences.
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You raise a valid point by
on 2009-01-29 21:54:00 UTC
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I was planning on being very careful that Mulhoon didn't become too good to be true. Certainly he's not immune to the effects of Mary Sues on the average agent, and he'll probably have a fairly strong aversion to abuse of the English language. What I meant to convey with that section is that he can go to a fic with graphic violence of particuary bad slash and not feel the need to throw up. Disturb is not actually precisely the word I want - "squick" would be more accurate there, but I have a slightly more formal writing style, and I'd prefer not to use colloquialisms in narrative text.
As for the question of why he's not turned up in previous stories if he's so legendary, I'd honestly not thought of that. I'll probably change that bit then. I might also have to change the bit about being sent to the most graphic fics reguarly, simply because I can't find any particularly graphic ones in the fandoms I'm most conversant with! -
Have some fire. by
on 2009-01-27 11:26:00 UTC
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Not a PG, but I think you need a writing sample.
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Did that a couple of weeks ago. (nm) by
on 2009-01-27 15:45:00 UTC
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Include a link, then. (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 03:49:00 UTC
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- For those that missed it the first time around by on 2009-01-28 04:12:00 UTC Link to this
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Star Wars badfic by
on 2009-01-27 18:55:00 UTC
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Backtrack to the past
a story in which Luke Leia and Han get thrown back in time by the force. warning this was written when i first woke up enjoy no bad reviews plz i know i'm not a talented writer so lets just leave it at that :P
Severely OOC. That's all I have to say about it. -
After just the first paragraph... by
on 2009-01-30 23:52:00 UTC
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...which, incidentally, is the first chapter all on its own, I have only one response:
*aneurysm* -
Oh no by
on 2009-01-30 01:21:00 UTC
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*just about dies*
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Wow... by
on 2009-01-27 19:29:00 UTC
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There are a lot of these, and this is one of the worst. Can I take it if no one else wants it?
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YEEEEEAAAAAARRRRGH. by
on 2009-01-27 19:22:00 UTC
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That word expresses my opinion on that fic in one anguished scream. Quite.
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OT: Trojans and/or weird page redirects? by
on 2009-01-27 21:13:00 UTC
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I don't want to freak anybody out if this is just happening to me, but I've noticed over the past few months that my malware protection software, Sophos, has been catching rather a lot of Trojans (especially seeing as I've never had any problems before), and it seems to happen most often when I'm here. I've also noticed it when I'm on deviantART, though. What happens is that I'll click on a link to go somewhere and a little box from Sophos will pop up telling me it's quarantined a Trojan. Meanwhile, I'll get a blue screen in my browser, Firefox 3.0.5, that tells me the action was illegal and blocked by something-or-other. I've gotten Adobe randomly opening and telling me it can't open a file because the file is damaged--Sophos doesn't like that, either.
I bring this up now because I just had the page I was looking at randomly turn to an X-Box ad twice. Clicking Back returned me to what I was looking at. I don't know what's up with that. Sophos didn't have anything to say about it.
So, clearly I need to take my laptop to campus' IT department and have them take a look at her, but I wanted to mention it just in case anyone else is noticing the same kinds of things, or in case they aren't noticing and they should be. I suspect it's related to the kinds of ads we get here, but I really have no idea. Any information would be really helpful.
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Tentative update. by
on 2009-01-30 23:42:00 UTC
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While waiting for attention from our IT department, which is notorious for taking forever to do anything, I downloaded the free version of Ad-Aware. I haven't had any more problems so far, but there have been long stretches with no problems before, so I hesitate to say that means anything. Just thought you folks should know.
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Huh, tell me about it. by
on 2009-01-30 12:59:00 UTC
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I just got redirected to something that the school computer wouldn't let me see, and then a bloody huge Victoria's Secret ad.
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It redirected me to... by
on 2009-01-29 22:04:00 UTC
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A dating site. What's up with that? Did it somehow know that I am single? If so, that's a bit creepy...
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I'm getting the problem with ads by
on 2009-01-28 09:13:00 UTC
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when I'm using Firefox...although not with IE, oddly enough. Also when I use Firefox, ater a few times viewing the page I'll ineviatably come across one ad in particular (I can't remember what for) which crashes my browser.
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I've been getting that too... by
on 2009-01-27 22:26:00 UTC
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Mostly page redirects - I'll click on an article and get bounced to a full-page ad of some sort.
So either it's the board, or we've both got some malware on our systems. -
Think it's the Board. by
on 2009-01-28 15:33:00 UTC
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I've been using Chrome lately as browser for whem I've come on here (on my laptop) and whenever I come on here, and then go to read a post, it'll pop up its little alert screen "THIS SITE HAS MALWARE ON IT" and such and end up crashing the browser.
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Ditto. by
on 2009-01-28 16:25:00 UTC
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Although it's less "whenever" than "occasionally", and it doesn't crash; I just click back and go on working.
But yeah, it's the Board. Again. Bah.
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Re: OT: Trojans and/or weird page redirects? by
on 2009-01-27 21:17:00 UTC
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From here there's one ad that always manages to crash my browser, but that's because for some reason it doesn't like opening PDF files, which is what the ad it. Otherwise I have no problems, even with popups.
Interestingly, I've had no ads here since I installed an adblocker. If you want the link to it I can probably relocate it.
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Is it okay for Doc Fitz to make something to slow ageing? by
on 2009-01-28 17:38:00 UTC
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The implications would be pretty difficult to handle and so if it is possible it would have to be strictly controlled, but it would solve the problems of rapidly-gestating babies a la Evelyn Eliza's sprogs, and it would mean the Mossflower-born agents don't age at four times the human rate. Besides, I'm sure there's something like it already in some continuum or other.
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On the other hand by
on 2009-01-29 10:30:00 UTC
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I've been writing PPC fic for almost three years now and my agents haven't gotten any older in that time. Or wiser.
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Might it not be better to let them age? by
on 2009-01-28 21:12:00 UTC
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Just saying. There's no reason we should assume all Agents are basically humans in different bodies. Although of course it's up to their writers (and I certainly haven't been fabulous about differentiating my non-human agents).
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The characters might be the type to request it. by
on 2009-01-28 22:25:00 UTC
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The Flowers might allow it on grounds that it'd reduce the turnover rate. And even if they didn't want it, the stuff would be useful for dealing with the "quickly-gestating babies" that keep showing up. Just a thought.
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Very true. (nm) by
on 2009-01-28 22:41:00 UTC
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Clones by
on 2009-01-28 20:29:00 UTC
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Looks like Star Wars clone recruits have another reason to join...
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I'd think so. by
on 2009-01-28 17:50:00 UTC
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It would be useful, as you said, for medical situations, and in any case I can think of at least one continuum that has age-slowing medication off the top of my head. Doesn't Larry Niven's Ringworld series have several variations?
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I can has Permission, lawl? by
on 2009-01-28 22:10:00 UTC
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I hereby request permission to make my own PPC missions. Here's the link to my writing sample...
http://azrael-shadowstryker.deviantart.com/art/Writing-Sample-for-PPC-111040753
And Agent Bios
Agent Zotz:
Age: Unknown
Species: Mostly human, standard Vindicare temple bio-enhancements.
Home Continuum: Warhammer 40K
Bio: Serious, hates daemons and xenos with a passion. Angry because he has to work with a Slaaneshi daemonette. Also hates Suvians, because his last mission before joining the PPC was to get rid of a Gary Stu who he thought was just an ordinary heretic leader. The Stu dodged the bullet, which killed the Mary Sue who was standing behind him. The return bullet from the Stu nearly killed him. He was brought back to the PPC, patched up, and paired with Agent Illixia.
Agent Illixia:
Age: 15
Species: Daemonette
Home Continuum: Warhammer 40K
Bio: Bubbly and bouncy. Loves Heavy Metal music. Spawned from the particularly depraved dream of a Mary Sue, who promptly forgot. Was picked up by the PPC and raised in the Nursery. Eventually paired up with Agent Zotz. Seems to actually like Zotz, who denies this. Knows almost nothing about her true origins. -
I have edited it... by
on 2009-01-29 22:01:00 UTC
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See what you think now.
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Needs work, I think. by
on 2009-01-29 02:54:00 UTC
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I don't know about the other PGs, but I'd prefer to see a lot less horrific rapefic-quoting and a lot more funny agent snark, of which there wasn't much. Also, the last time I checked, the consoles didn't force the agents through the portal. It just doesn't work that way.
And, "lawl"? On a permission request? Seriously?
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Think I got a bit premature, by
on 2009-01-29 12:12:00 UTC
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I can still edit it, so I probably will. My sense of humor has seemed to atrophy in recent months, which is probably the School's fault. I was also unsure about the consoles, and I needed a slapstick gag...
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That could be a problem. by
on 2009-01-29 18:12:00 UTC
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Remember that above all else, the PPC is meant to be funny. So you may want to work on getting your sense of humour back before trying again.
As for the quoting... Neshomeh's point was that it's a lot more interesting to read what you've written than to read a badfic -- which, of course, is bad, by definition.
So yeah. Practice your agent interaction and avoiding long quotes, say a little more on the Board (I've seen what you said to Sedri, but it's fun to ramble incessantly about things you know nothing about! Not that I'm a great example these days), check up on PPC proceedure as described in, at minimum, the Original Series, and try again in a little while.
On the positive side, not that that's particularly negative, your agents do look interesting, and their interaction (what I read before I started skimming to check how much bold there was) looks good.
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It's mostly back though, by
on 2009-01-29 20:08:00 UTC
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So I have been at work on rectifying the problems. Luckily DevArt has an "edit" tool. I probably shouldn't have posted the rough draft, it's just that others *coughSISTERcough* were pushing me to submit last night...
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Thank you... by
on 2009-01-29 20:57:00 UTC
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For being receptive to feedback. It always makes me happy when new people handle themselves so well. ^_^
This may seem like hypocrisy, but it's generally not a good idea to let anyone else tell you when you're ready to show your work. If you suspect there's something left to do, you're probably right. The reverse is true, too: if you think there isn't any more you can do, there probably isn't--except for edits. There's always room for cleaning up messy sentences and making stronger word choices and such.
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Hmpf. Wasn't forcing him. by
on 2009-02-03 20:12:00 UTC
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Zotz is much bigger than me. I would need siege weaponry and trolls to force him to do anything. He *did* keep asking me "Do you think I should post it yet? What about now? Now?".
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Rapefic quoting? by
on 2009-01-29 12:13:00 UTC
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I wasn't aware I was doing that... Ye gods.
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I think... by
on 2009-01-29 17:19:00 UTC
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..that the point Neshomeh was getting at is that you've put great chinks of the fic itself in the mission. When it's as NSFW as that (although I'm not suggesting this is gospel, I am after all but a newbie) I don't think it's really necessary to have all the explicit detail there. You can sort of skirt the issue by having either reactions or just by removing the excerpt and describing events less explicitly.
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Exactly right. by
on 2009-01-29 19:40:00 UTC
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There's actually little to no quoting of the original badfic in the Original Series, if I remember right. Mostly they just paraphrase what happens in the badfic in such a way as to highlight how ridiculous it is. The humorous paraphrase is a skill I'm working on in my own missions.
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Re: Exactly right. by
on 2009-01-29 22:33:00 UTC
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Ah, the paraphrases. Always a good thing. And we certainly need a lot of 'em in Bad Slash, else our readership would be limited to about three people. But occasionally one comes across a line that just needs to be quoted in its entirety, for the WTF points.
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Not a PG either, but... by
on 2009-01-28 22:58:00 UTC
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How long have you been here? I'm afraid I don't recognise you - this may, of course, be a fault of my memory, but you don't seem to have been very actively involved in the Board - I found your name on only about four posts on the front page. The idea of a month-long wait before asking Permission, you know, is so that the PGs can see you've taken active part in our community.
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I have been here for appx. 1 month. by
on 2009-01-28 23:08:00 UTC
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The reason you haven't seen much of me posting is because I only really post on things that I know about. No point in making myself look like an idiot by posting on things that I know nothing about...
Check the records. I'm pretty sure I posted more than 4 things.
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Not a PG but... by
on 2009-01-28 22:51:00 UTC
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Whoot more 40K agents!
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You will need to join... by
on 2009-01-28 23:10:00 UTC
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You can join for free, though. You will probably need to say you are over 18, though, since I had to label the mission as having Explicit Content. The badfic that I sporked was basically a Warhammer 40K rapefic. Hope I have answered any questions you have...
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Parts 2 and 3 of mission done! by
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Yay! It's over!
Part 1: http://chelonianmobile.livejournal.com/66420.html
Part 2: http://chelonianmobile.livejournal.com/66863.html
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I wonder... by
on 2009-01-29 19:46:00 UTC
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Do you think that fic was written by a guy? It seems a lot like male fantasy to me, but as I am not a guy, I can't be sure.
Anyway, excellent sporking. This may be the highest concentration of non-assassins I've ever seen in the field, which was amusing. And... Drake's tail... it made me laugh, even though I'm not sure it's physically possible. ^_^; That boy has no shame.
~Neshomeh, who would be tempted to try the genderbend out, too, just to know what it's like.
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The author's apparently a girl, but you're right. by
on 2009-01-29 23:04:00 UTC
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I thought it read kind of like a guy's fetish checklist, but the author's profile suggests she's a heterosexual female. It's linked to here, which is where I found it in the first place: http://pottersues.livejournal.com/65485.html
Not to get too detailed with the tail thing, but if he curled it round one thigh and back between his legs rather than just trying to curl it straight up it might work ...
Totally! Remind me to officially draw this lot at some point. In the meantime, here's Drakette (perhaps we should call her "Duck"?):
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SQUEEEEEEEE by
on 2009-01-29 23:13:00 UTC
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yuh about the tail, and LOVE THE PICTURE!!!!!!!!
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*regularly genderbends characters in RP* by
on 2009-01-29 22:19:00 UTC
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Well, not serious setting RPs.
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abotu drake by
on 2009-01-29 21:50:00 UTC
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you are right. he has no shame. but then, he was raised as a sue's pet caf, so his morals are a bit skewed as one can say.
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Oh, gosh. by
on 2009-01-29 21:39:00 UTC
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That's preeeeetty tempting.
So start a new thread already, and let's have some good old-fashioned PPC insanity!
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So who wants to start? by
on 2009-01-29 23:08:00 UTC
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I'll do it unless anyone else wants the honours.
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YAY!!! by
on 2009-01-29 21:49:00 UTC
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Drake woudl definitely be interested. very very interested.
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Oh, I just bet. :P by
on 2009-01-29 21:50:00 UTC
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I'm trying to imagine how my various agents would react to their friends and associates being genderbent... I think if Neshomeh does this I'll have to include those reactions.
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Naomi by
on 2009-01-29 21:51:00 UTC
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would sigh and then try to explain to drake why what he is doing is not allowed. most likely with back packs to the head.
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I hadn't... by
on 2009-01-29 20:42:00 UTC
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...Until you brought it up. So yeah, drawing genderbent agents sounds like a good idea to me.
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Mission thumbs up! by
on 2009-01-29 20:31:00 UTC
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A good read, the genderbending made me laugh, heh.
And Neshomeh, you are not alone!
Although I guess it'd help if I actually made my Agents wiki articles. And y'know, finished writing their first mission. -
YAY!!! (nm) by
on 2009-01-29 19:33:00 UTC
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I agrees with you on the genderbending thingy. by
on 2009-01-29 16:30:00 UTC
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And that needed much killing.
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I has a question... by
on 2009-01-29 02:11:00 UTC
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Is it necessary to obtain permission of any sort if you want to make an Agent change departments or divisions or such? Just wondering.
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Nesh already said it, but... no. by
on 2009-01-30 06:51:00 UTC
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Or else I'm in trouble several times over. Permission is just about the oldbies making sure PPC authors aren't going to spoil things. Once you're in, you're in, so to speak. :)
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I believe Trojie did something like this... by
on 2009-01-29 20:11:00 UTC
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One of the flowers made her take up a temporary post at another Department. Haven't read the fic where this happened for a while, so I am being deliberately vague.
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Well, kinda by
on 2009-02-01 20:14:00 UTC
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Trojie occasionally gets suborned into helping out with other departments - she's definitely either volunteered for, been pressganged into or simply refused to leave missions belonging to the Department of Angst, Department of Mary Sues and Department of Floaters. But she's never actually changed her Department.
Basically you can pretty much switch your agents round departments as much as you like within reason, although some of the smaller departments (WTF, FicPsych, and a few others) operate under the auspices of one particular Boarder and they might like you to ask before you throw your Agent into their sandpit, as it is. -
Not generally. by
on 2009-01-29 02:56:00 UTC
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Not if you already have permission and the agent in question belongs to you. If said agent does not belong to you, that's another matter.
~Neshomeh
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MOAR MISHUN PLUGGAGE! by
on 2009-01-29 02:57:00 UTC
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This time for Agents Veridian Green and Stevius of the Department of Character Protective Services - James McAvoy, of Mr Tumnus fame, is having some inappropriate flashbacks about one Skandar Keynes.
http://agenttrojie.livejournal.com/62596.html
Warning: not really for the fainthearted, even though, as usual, we did our best to get rid of the really ooh nasties. Skandar's fourteen, in this. So, yeah. Paedophilia/chan. Avoid if it's going to make you want to remove your own brain afterwards. -
Technically he should have hit puberty if he's fourteen ... by
on 2009-01-29 10:52:00 UTC
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... so it'd actually be ephebophilia or hebephilia, not sure which. Doesn't make the fic less gross by any appreciable degree, though.
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Fair point by
on 2009-01-29 18:56:00 UTC
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(will look up the definitions later and see which, out of curiosity)
No, it really doesn't. Whlst reading it all I could hear was my brain wailing 'these are real people! Why are you doing this to them?!' -
point by
on 2009-01-29 17:06:00 UTC
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I seem to recall his voice breaking during the filming of LWW and his sister having to do some of his lines. Whether our agents would know the difference between hebephilia, ephebophilia and paedophilia is another matter. Whether the author realised James McAvoy is in fact married to a 38 year old woman is also another matter.
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Good point, the agents may not know. by
on 2009-01-29 23:54:00 UTC
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I don't remember why I found out myself, but since my major canon includes a thirteen-year-old married couple who had a child within a year of the marriage (though admittedly I'm pretty sure one year is the equivalent of four years of their aging process) it may come in useful in discussion some time.
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Re: Good point, the agents may not know. by
on 2009-01-30 03:51:00 UTC
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So how old are Molly and Moses, as of January 2009 HST? I checked the wiki but it doesn't actually say when they were rescued.
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They were rescued around September 2007. by
on 2009-01-30 12:11:00 UTC
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So Molly would be seven and Moses would be one.
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Re: They were rescued around September 2007. by
on 2009-01-30 13:08:00 UTC
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So does the one year = four thing not apply to them?
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I asked if it was okay for Doc Fitz to develop something ... by
on 2009-01-30 13:19:00 UTC
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... which would slow down ageing because it would be useful for fixing "quickly-gestating babies" (a la Evelyn Eliza - see the Technical Errors missions), and the Flowers might have discussed its use with some of the agents who age faster than humans do, because they'd approve of anything to slow the turnover rate. The discussion's a bit further down the Board.
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mm, I spotted that by
on 2009-01-30 13:26:00 UTC
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But they're not gestating, are they? But fair enough.
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Presumably they have a form of the same stuff ... by
on 2009-01-30 14:39:00 UTC
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... which works on ready-born beings. I'm pretty sure some canon somewhere already has an age-slowing medication of some type, so it's not entirely out of the question that Doc Fitz could make some.
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Trojie dear, I KNOW you can spell properly. Please do so. by
on 2009-01-29 04:54:00 UTC
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You're better than the Sues, you know.
That fic was revolting, though. Paedobloodyphilia. -
My brain was scrambled by badfic by
on 2009-01-29 07:24:00 UTC
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so it apparently rebooted in lolcat ...
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'tis okay. But considering our job, I had to say it. ;p (nm) by
on 2009-01-29 23:13:00 UTC
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True (nm) by
on 2009-01-31 20:59:00 UTC
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I know the feeling. by
on 2009-01-29 20:14:00 UTC
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My brain has been scrambled at several times. Mine usually reboots, but starts to do something roughly approximating Hex's "Divide by Cucumber Error" routine...
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I honestly do find that I start responding to trauma ... by
on 2009-01-31 20:59:00 UTC
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... in lolcat. It seems to put a fluffy barrier between me and whatever is hurting so much ....
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*boots your brain* (nm) by
on 2009-01-30 12:29:00 UTC
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Question about an OFU by
on 2009-01-29 22:37:00 UTC
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Will the Velgrath (aka valdemar) OFU ever be revived? I am juts curious. I am a serious Mercedes lackey fan. and although i woudl try to revive it, already co-author to an OFU , OFUR, and not the best writer. just curious if anyone else might take it up, maybe.
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It might be best to contact the author directly on that one. (nm by
on 2009-01-30 09:46:00 UTC
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maybe by
on 2009-01-30 13:46:00 UTC
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but then, i don;t know how ot contact wildehorse, i think that was the name of the author. it has been 5 years since it was last posted.
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Hoo, this is old... by
on 2009-02-06 21:32:00 UTC
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http://www.geocities.com/PPCdirectory/
Wylde is still on there. Good luck digging her back up!
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Good old-fashioned PPC insanity! by
on 2009-01-30 02:10:00 UTC
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You can thank Laburnum for inspiring this thread and hS for its title. Let's do some genderbending. *eg* To start, here are my main three agents as the opposite sex, as done with the TekTek Dream Avatar thing.
Jenni:
Ilraen:
Nume:
I think Ilraen and Jenni are having the most fun. Jenni has been genderbent before, so she had a much easier time adjusting. {= ) Nume is just how Nume is.
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psst! by
on 2009-02-04 00:22:00 UTC
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In case anyone's wondering why Agents Trojie and Pads have been curiously absent from the genderbending fiasco, fear not. It's because we have Plans.
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Question... by
on 2009-02-02 00:34:00 UTC
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...if you don't have Permission yet, but do have Agent characters thought out, can you still do this? I like insanity.
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Go ahead. by
on 2009-02-02 02:39:00 UTC
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On-Board events like this are usually considered open to everyone, regardless of Permission status. {= )
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Yeah by
on 2009-02-02 02:57:00 UTC
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Although, we still don;t know the true cause of the incident.It could be an infected DORKS, or a true crisis........
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Ansela and Risa by
on 2009-01-31 22:22:00 UTC
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"What did you press?" Risa muttered, knowing that his partner wasn't exactly listening to him at that time. "I told you to stay away from the console after last time."
"Didn't press nothing," Ansela grinned and stretched, ignoring the ripping sound as his clothes finally gave up on conforming to his new, larger body shape.
"You must have pressed something. People do not just change gender on a whim."
"Sure they do. I know this guy back in my home continuum who can change your gender if you give him enough money. Hell, sometimes he changes his own gender for shits and giggles."
"I take it you have availed yourself of his services in the past," Risa sighed as Ansela nodded eagerly, rubbing at his forehead to try and stave off the impending migraine. "And this would be why you are so unperturbed by this turn of events."
"Yup. I'm going to the cafeteria, see if there's anyone who knows what's going on," Ansela opened the door and grinned at Risa. "Want me to get you anything?"
"I would appreciate it if you would find some clothing that does not look like it will fall off as soon as you do so much as breath deeply."
Ansela nodded. "Will do." - And a proper drawing of the "Hand Maidens" incident ... by on 2009-01-31 20:57:00 UTC Link to this
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Saw this coming. by
on 2009-01-31 12:20:00 UTC
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Fun times~
I know. I don't use TekTek. I'm so nonconformist. =P
Samuel, who is not too pleased and may or may not have raided the Armory;
and Kat, who seriously could care less, only the lack of cramps might be nice. -
What did you use, then? (nm) by
on 2009-02-03 12:49:00 UTC
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Subeta! *evil cackles* by
on 2009-02-04 05:55:00 UTC
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Because I really prefer the look of the human avatars from Subeta.net -- virtual pet site. Neo for 13+ with pretty arts. =)
http://subetahq.com/wardrobe/
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Ooh, is pwitty. I think I'll use that too. (nm) by
on 2009-02-05 13:00:00 UTC
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Bwahaha, another convert. (nm) by
on 2009-02-06 09:34:00 UTC
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But how do I paste the little pictures into this thread? by
on 2009-02-06 16:16:00 UTC
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The Subeta thing has no HTML code thing.
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Re: But how do I paste the little pictures into this thread? by
on 2009-02-06 19:15:00 UTC
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right click on the pic to get the image location.
[img src="paste image location"]
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Thanks! (nm) by
on 2009-02-10 00:50:00 UTC
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Also you can use tinypic. by
on 2009-02-06 21:45:00 UTC
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I've noticed SHQ has a bad habit of screwing up the bases when you use the code directly from the image, else that'd be perfect.
But if you click and drag to the desktop, upload to tinypic, and then delete the image when you're through... -
It had to happen eventually... by
on 2009-01-30 23:42:00 UTC
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Why is it, that in just about every fandom or such-like that I have looked into, gender-bending has cropped up?
Not that I mind, since, thanks to a certain trope associated with genderbending, the results are usually pleasing to the eye.
It doesn't hurt that I hold a passing interest in genderbending myself, but who's paying attention to that? -
I may have gotten slightly carried away... by
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Here's the nine main agents that have appeared in my missions:
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We have to start a genderbending epidemic through HQ! by
on 2009-01-30 23:19:00 UTC
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Not sure when it'd be set because the mission I've just done was around November 2007, so it'd be either then or present day. Without getting too spoilery, Laburnum and Drake are going to keep genderbending on occasion when off-duty for a while - she out of curiosity and because she wants to spend some time being someone else (because she has unresolved self-loathing issues left over from buggering up the Nighthunt fiasco), he because he has a creepy transformation fixation - so we could work on it somehow.
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Re: We have to start a genderbending epidemic through HQ! by
on 2009-02-02 14:28:00 UTC
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Alex Warren. -
For future reference? by
on 2009-02-02 13:18:00 UTC
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May I copy the whole thing and paste it to the_ppc or something? Just so it doesn't get eaten by the board....
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Hmm... by
on 2009-01-30 23:26:00 UTC
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Perhaps Makes-Things never got around to fixing the recovered portal from that mission. Perhaps someone tries integrating it into the current system, but it's still Sue-infected and it sends a signal to everyone's disguise generators. Or something like that.
Would that count as a PPC Crisis? It's not very crisis-like. It would really mess up the graph of PPC Crises if we did count it as one.
Anyway, I think it would be a good RP scenario. *g*
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Does it need to be an RP? by
on 2009-01-30 23:42:00 UTC
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Although PPC RPs are great fun, I don't think they need to be as common as they are. Wouldn't it be more interesting -- and easier to keep track of afterwards, since RP transcripts tend to be very difficult to write up -- to let people write their own stories about the events and link them all from a central page? Then anyone who wanted to collaborate, either by writing a story together or by writing two that interacted with one another, could do so, and anyone who just wanted to write their own story could do that, too.
Just a suggestion, obviously, but...
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So will you make a central page for us? by
on 2009-02-03 20:07:00 UTC
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Or will it be on the Wiki? Or what?
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That depends... by
on 2009-02-03 20:43:00 UTC
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... on whether anyone actually posts anything except in posts on the Board. :P But I will if any stories appear, yes.
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i like the story idea by
on 2009-01-31 01:19:00 UTC
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that makes much sense. and could do it. although, which agent shoudl be the one who triggers the mass thing? It can be drake, if you wish.
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True. by
on 2009-01-30 23:44:00 UTC
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... I totally didn't just respond in-character to your first post on this thread. >.>
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Don't worry... by
on 2009-01-30 23:46:00 UTC
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... I've already come up with an excuse that will allow me to reply, and it is this:
A /two person/ roleplay is just a collaborative story done in real-time. The problem is when dozens of people try to work together, it gets messy.
Ergo, I'm fully consistant if I allow myself to respond. :P
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sorry by
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abotu teh lux thing. couldn;t help myself. i apologize.
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Not a problem. :P by
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I was looking for an excuse to get them out of there anyway.
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oh okay by
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was just curious. this is not PPC canon, right?
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Heck if I know. by
on 2009-02-01 21:34:00 UTC
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There's no reason it can't be canon... I'll be saving the story up until my two wandered off, but whether it ever sees the light of day again depends on how everyone feels about it. At the least I wouldn't post it without you, Neshomeh and Laburnum agreeing it was canon, since you participated in making it.
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As for that... by
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I'd be interested in expanding the event, actually, and making the solution a little more difficult to achieve. Maybe the DORKS isn't the cause of the problem after all, or something. I don't know. For me, it's an excuse to develop Nume's character and possibly reveal some things I might not be able to otherwise simply because I can't think of a normal situation in which he'd ever let them come up. For that reason, it's better to have him (her) interacting with people other than Ilraen. That's my motivation.
'Course, I also think it would be fun to learn Dafydd and Constance's reason(s) for being back in HQ just in time for this. And to see some genderbent fire lizards. *g*
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They weren't. :P by
on 2009-02-02 00:33:00 UTC
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They left their home and came to HQ with swords because /somehow/ the effect reached them way out in [location deleted].
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Ooooh. by
on 2009-02-02 04:21:00 UTC
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That explains the very high level of homicidal-ness, then.
So... would you be interested in some kind of off-Board collaboration, then? At least to determine the cause and solution of the incident? Four-way collab... could be interesting.
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I remember how long our last collab took. :P by
on 2009-02-02 13:42:00 UTC
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Of course, in this case we have a ready-built location to discuss things without clogging up the board: Emergency Board for teh win!. But if it were to continue I would be forced, forced I say, to drag some more of my hapless Agents into it (muahaha). Dafydd and Constance aren't coming back.
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Yes, well. >.> by
on 2009-02-02 17:24:00 UTC
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All in the past, extenuating circumstances, third parties, and, and... I'm better now? And if all else fails we can quite possibly arrange to do something about it when I'm actually in the same country as you this spring? ^_^;
Anyway, I have a plan this time. The plan is to go make a plan so we know where we're going before anyone starts writing anything.
Aww... no genderbent fire lizards, then? Shame.
I may also have to bring in my as-yet-unrevealed DMS team for a cameo. And we can probably work in other agents.
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Very good. :P by
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And I don't know... when the thing's getting sorted they might send Ilwi and Hera to see what's going on...
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We have a discussion thread. by
on 2009-02-03 20:18:00 UTC
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http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=241484;article=1579;title=PPC%20Message%20Board
Let us discuss. {= )
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Well by
on 2009-02-02 00:56:00 UTC
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The sue is carrying sue cooties. the orignal genderbending portal was caused by a prototype console that was corrupted by a sue in a fic. so it is sue technology, and thus odd. and old PPC technology, so it might have locked onto the flash badges of the agents, and modifiyed the SEPF gendertors somehow. so while the DORKS was the original cause, the returning everyone ot normal might take longer.
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true by
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stormsong has the DORKS now. drake was a tricky little fox. looks like the dorks was given back. he has put two and two together and realized that people don't like Lux. although, for him, two adn two come out to many. (yes, discworld troll joke)
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people don't like Lux now? by
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Speak for yourself. The Assassins may be wary of someone so tactile, but the Bad Slashers get on fine with her, so long as she keeps her hands to herself.
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well by
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drake gets along with sky, but for some reason his partners don;t want him too.....
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Yeah... by
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As I'm working with time constraints, I was effectively out as soon as people stopped taking turns. We can just assume my two gave up and slammed the door on the whole mess. ... Except not really slam, because it's a Star Trek sliding door. {= P
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Excellent. {= ) (nm) by
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Just a few, then. by
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Nyx and Dassie
"How do they expect us to work like this?" Nyx demanded. She -- or rather, he -- waved his sword vaguely. "My muscles are all wrong!"
Dassie sipped her cup of coffee. "Well, the Plot Continuum still needs protecting," she said vaguely. "And Agents still need patching up. They can't really afford to give us a break, especially with so many of our colleagues transformed too."
Nyx wasn't listening. "Didn't we save their hides during the Invasion?" he ranted. "And the Reorganisation. The least they could do, the absolute least..."
Dassie leant back in her chair. This sounded like it would take a while.
Louise and Narto
"... Lou," Narto said in a strangely high voice.
"Yes, Nar?"
"Why am I a girl?"
Louise looked round at her. "For giggles," he said, grinning. "I was bored."
"You were bored," Narto repeated flatly. "And when you're bored, you..."
"Hop across to a comic I know and steal some cool tech, yes," Lou finished for her. "Isn't it fun?"
"I have curves in all the wrong places," Narto muttered. "And what if someone comes over?"
"We'll just have to be busy," Lou said dismissively, and held out a hand. "Ms. Telyan, will you join me in the hot tub?"
Narto stared at him for a moment, and then laughed. "Certainly I will, sir," she said, and off they went.
Constance and Dafydd
"Dafydd, please put the sword down."
Dafydd swung around to look at Constance. "They can't get away with this!" she exclaimed. "Elves may be girly, but I'm not female!"
"You are now," Constance said, eying her amusedly. "Come on, it's not that bad. I'm not having any trouble."
Dafydd scowled at him. "Says you," she muttered darkly. "But come on, Connie, they can't get away with this."
"Probably not," Constance agreed cheerfully. Reaching into a closet, he pulled out a sword. Dafydd blinked.
"Um."
"Yeeeees?"
"Your... er, your sword is on fire?"
Constance looked at it startledly. "Why, so it is! How clever of you to notice." He beamed.
"... right, then." Dafydd looked around. "Tanfin's asleep?"
"He is," Constance agreed. "Unless it's she by now." He swung his sword experimentally. "So shall we go and knock on the doors of HQ?"
Dafydd grinned. "Let's get knocking," she said, and headed for the door.
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*can't resist* by
on 2009-01-30 23:37:00 UTC
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At the knock on the door, two things happened. A female voice shouted "No, don't--!", and the door was opened. The opener was a purplish-furred female Andalite.
<Hello,> said she.
"Dammit, Ilraen," grumbled the first voice, which belonged to a tall, thin, angry-looking woman who stood with her arms crossed awkwardly over her breasts. "Well, who is it? What do they want?"
<Please excuse my partner,> said Ilraen. <We are not usually... um... like this. He--she--Agent Supernumerary is not very happy about it.> Beat. <Er, do you know that your sword is on fire?>
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[Can never resist] by
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"Um. Er." Dafydd looked distinctly nonplussed. Beside her, Constance grinned.
"Yes, it is," he said. "Full marks for observation, fuzzy horse thing." He looked at his... er... husband? Wife? His spouse and muttered, "Come on, elf, say your thing."
"... oh, right." Dafydd brandished her own sword. "Blah blah blah dramatic and threatening speech," she said, "but seriously, either you two tell us who's responsible for genderbending us, or we start breaking things."
"We're very good at that," Constance said, although his sword hardly needed any further comment.
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Oh dear. by
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Ilraen suddenly felt very naked without her larger male tail-blade, but she instinctively raised the one she had at the moment. <Um... I do not think that would be productive.>
"We didn't do it," Nume said. "We don't know who did, either."
<Perhaps we could assist you in locating the responsible party as an alternative to pointless violence?>
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They haven't realised it's happened to everyone yet. by
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"Oh, it wouldn't be pointless violence," Constance said with a lethal-looking grin, lifting his sword, but Dafydd nudged him with an elbow.
"Connie," she muttered, "you're acting look... I don't know, like a human male or something."
Constance poked his tongue out at her. "Probably all the testosterone," he admitted. "But come on, they're asking for it."
Dafydd rubbed her temples wearily. "Seriously, guys," she said, "you don't know what this is like. It's insane."
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Nope. by
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"Tch," scoffed Nume, pushing her way forward to stand by Ilraen's flank. "'Guys,' she says. Look, whatever this is, it got us, too. You think I want to be like this? It's all..." She gestured hopelessly at her modified body. "Things are internal where they should be external and, and protruding where they shouldn't be. I know how insane it is."
Ilraen nodded. <This is my first experience of a female of my species. It is very strange.>
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Can;t resist by
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Drake goes rushing by the door, in full harem girl outfit, giggling as she dashes by.
She is holding a rubber chicken, which changes to a teddy bear in a tutu as she runs be, followed by a male agent, wielding a backpack. “Come back here DRAKE!!! You’ve gone too far.” -
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"DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"
A large male stoat, bristling with anger and carrying a rapier with clear intent to use it, stalked around the corner, followed by a small slender weasel jill with a lute strapped to her back.
"I did NOT need this to happen again!" the stoat snarled. "I don't know how you did this, and I don't care! Just turn us back!"
A small fuzzy whirlwind appeared around the other corner and screeched to a halt, revealing itself to be a small ferret. "Hi, New Mama! Hi, Uncle Stormy! The nursery lady started screaming about summink and dropped me ..." He sniffed. "You look funny. Should I call you Daddy now, Mama?"
The mustelids looked at each other. "Well, at least one of us doth seem to be coping," the weasel said wryly.
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funny by
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Naomi gasped and ran back, then stared.
"Wait, you too?"
She asked, totally confused, then looked in through the open door, looking at the four agents inside, then gulping.
"Errrrrr, I take it that you got gender bent too? I swear, I have no clue what my partner did, but I remember that DORKS. Drake had it on a mission where he came back wearing very funny cloths. Makes Things said something about sue cooties or something, I don;t think he managed OT fix it before he died. We got it back, but apparently it still has problems." -
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Dafydd looked at Constance. "Hmm."
Constance nodded. "Hmm indeed," he said.
Looking at the new arrival, Dafydd raised an eyebrow. "So... it's your partner's doing, then?" she asked. At her side, Constance raised his (still-on-fire) sword and grinned.
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*gulp* by
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She gulped, looking at the sword, and clearly guessing the intent.
"Errrr, i think so. I have no clue what happened to that DORKS!!!"
she spoots Storm and SKy, or what she assumes are them, and Molly too.
"Say, Storm, Sky? what happened on that mission? What woudl cause a DORKS to genderbend agents? "
she asks, then looks back.
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Wabbit season! I mean... by
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Nume's wrath had now carried her all the way out into the hallway. "I have a better idea. Let's figure out if this can un-happen. If that requires a fox-hunt, I'm all for it."
Ilraen, who was by this time Earth-savvy enough to understand the reference, eyed her partner suspiciously. Coming from three of four eyes, this was nothing to sneeze at. <You are not riding me again,> she said. <That was a very singular occasion, and in any case, I cannot be certain this new body is quite strong enough. It feels more... dainty.>
Nume stared in utter horror. "Ilraen, if you ever use that word again, I'm going to have to hurt you."
Ilraen was the absolute picture of wounded innocence. <You would injure a female?>
Her partner turned in desperation to Dafydd and Constance. "Can we kill the fox now?"
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Muaha. Think fast, Drake. by
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Constance's eyes lit up, possibly because he was holding a burning sword in front of them. "Oh, let's," he said, gleefully.
Dafydd rolled her eyes. "All right, so it's tempting," she admitted. "But murder is rarely the answer, Connie. Unless the question is a 'Sue."
"She's kind of Sueish," Constance said reasonably. "I mean, talking animals are pretty unusual, right?"
"They were," Dafydd corrected. "We've been gone long enough that they might be common now." She glanced at the Agents referred to as Storm and Sky meaningfully.
"Nevertheless," Constance said, frowning, "I propose we kill her. Has it crossed your mind that this might have affected Hera and Ilwion?"
His spouse winced at the thought of genderbent fire lizards. "All right, I'm convinced," she said. "Murder it is."
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"Wait!" by
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Stormsong ducked forwards and stood in front of Drake. "'Twould not be a good idea to slay the one who caused this. After all, if he caused it, he must know how to change it back."
Drake grinned. "Aww, I knew there was a reason I like you."
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(( I thought Drake was long-gone down the hallway. O.o )) (nm) by
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((This is Drake. She probably wandered back...)) by
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((... when she realised no one was chasing her any more.
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(yuh) by
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she most likely did. although, she is pretty smart at times.
"A huntm, right? Lux tuaght me this game, or tried ot explain bu meany naomi interrupted."
that said, DRake giggled, than ran off again, giggling fleeing down the corridor.
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Aw, no fun. by
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Dafydd drummed her fingers on her sword handle. "If we just injure her -- or him, or whatever..." She shook her head. "I'll be so glad to go back to normal. If we just injure her -- sorry, what was your name? -- can you make sure she doesn't do this again?"
"Nooooo," Constance protested, waving his sword around. "Come on, friend of horsey-thing-person, you're with me on this, aren't you? She totally needs killing!"
((... Constance is starting to disturb me))
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Well by
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Naomi sighed. "Look, i'm just worried that if you kill him, my next partner will be LUX!!!!!"
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"I don't know, I'm not a technician," Skyfire said, shrugging. "He must have done something pretty impressive to it to make it transform everyone in HQ, and that suggests that he must have enlisted expert help ... Do any of Lux's flings work in the tech department? Strikes me as something she would approve of, and so would anyone demented enough to like her."
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"Does anyone own this psycho fox?" by
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Ansela yelled as he came round the corner, dragging Drake behind him. "Crazy bitch ran into me, giggling like a sugar-high Sue and waving a DORKS around like a mad thing. Almost put an arrow through her chest before she yelled that she was an Agent."
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Naomi goraned, "He's my partner. And..." she gasped as she noticed something... "WHERES THE DORKS!!!!!!"
she quickly snapped at the others, "Please, no killing him until we can sort this out, okay?"
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OOC: Dunno if I should post this here or in a different subthread, but I'll just post my Agents' responses. This is set after my Agents' latest, in-progress mission(#3 OOC, #6 IC).
There was a low pitched humming noise as a glowing portal appeared in the middle of RC-1138B. A dull thump quickly followed as an exhausted, soot-covered Alex Warren fell through it and landed heavily on the sofa. Hugging a cushion with one arm, he massaged his temple with the other. "Never, never again..." he groaned into the cushion. He looked up from the sofa as an equally battered but still standing Drental stepped through, holding a backpack that was bulging slightly at the seams. Alex's eyes narrowed as he saw glitter stains seeping through his bag.
"Drental, you didn't put the Sue's scalp in my bag, did you?"
The Mandalorian Agent shrugged, causing Alex to start spluttering.
"Drental, all my stuff's in there!"
Drental shrugged again.
"It's not like a little glitter will damage it."
Right on cue, the Overpower caused the Suvian blood to start burning a hole in Alex's prized ROTS novelization. It then waited for Alex to give it its next cue.
Alex opened and closed his mouth several times, then closed it when he couldn't think of a good counterargument. A moment of silence later, he sat up and looked at his partner.
"Seriously though, that thing was a nightmare. Grievous, droids, and a regenerating Sue at the same time. Why the hell didn't they list that on the report?"
"The writer went mad and thinks he's a rubber duck now, remember?" Drental replied dryly.
"And the first person and body change...Honestly, I hope that never happens to us again."
Pop.
Alex sighed, looking down at herself for a moment before going back to her previous position on the sofa. Drental, meanwhile, simply shrugged and continued taking off his now somewhat uncomfortable armour.
"You'd think I would have learned to keep my mouth shut by now," Alex mused. There were shouts from outside, and Alex blinked.
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"Oh no." by
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Skyfire shook his head. "Oh no. Please, Drake, tell me you did not potentially give that thing to Lux."
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(wrong qwuestion to ask) by
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"Okay, I did not give it to Lux, potentially."
Naomi looked at drake.
"Aer you telling the truth?"
"Not really, but she did ask me to tell her tha...."
Naomi had snapped and smacked drake with teh backpack.
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"So Lux has got it? by
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All we have to do is ask her, him, for it back, right? It's not that..." Ansela trailed off as the others looked at him incredulously. "What? Lux can be reasonable."
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Bowing out. by
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"..." Constance lowered his sword at last and looked across at Dafydd. "Lux is in control of our bodies," he said flatly.
Dafydd looked around at the assembled Agents. "You think they can handle it?" she asked dubiously.
"I certainly hope so," Constance replied, "because I'm not going to. Not against Lux."
"Me either," Dafydd said grimly. "She's -- he's -- too much."
"Time to go, then?" her spouse asked. Dafydd nodded, and looked at the group again.
"Well, it's been fun," she said, "but we'll be going home now. If you decide to burn the place down, do let us know."
"Not that you know where we live, thank goodness," Constance added. He shot a look at Drake. "And if this doesn't get sorted out, we'll be back. With two irate fire lizards in tow."
Dafydd grinned wryly. "Who needs fear of God?" she asked the air above her. "Come on, Connie, let's go home." And with that, the pair walked away. Again.
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DRakes foolery by
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DRake gigle d and squiremed free, adn dropped a ocutpuis jar in Stormsons's arms, kissed him, then dashed off.
Naomi was about to chase when teh jar phrapped and morphed into a doll.
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Stormsong fumbled the object and narrowly avoided dropping it. "So, ah, should we take this back to the technicians? I have no idea what to do with the cursed object ..."
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Hmmm by
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"Sure. let's head to the way. Although, Storm, did you want to just mess with it instead, see if we can fix this withotu the techinicans?"
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"Drake, I shall be cruel to be kind," explained the weasel, grinning ominously. "On a scale of bad ideas, the idea of 'messing' with this thing would be somewhere between walking around an OFU with one's sex changed without telling anyone and trying to store a poisonous snake in one's pocket. Thou hast already done the former. Please do not move further along the scale."
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(naomi asked that) by
on 2009-02-02 00:23:00 UTC
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naomi looed oddly at Stormsong, and smacked herself.
"DRake's long gone. I asked that. I think that was due to this body. Being male seems to make me want ot take odd risks, no offense to your gender Stormie." -
(My mistake.) by
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"Still. Bad move." Stormsong handed over the device. "We should take this to the technical department."
In the DoSAT, they waited as the machine was examined.
"Bad news," said the tech, looking up from the workbench. "I don't know what you've done to this thing, but basically it's completely screwed up. I can fix it, but it'll take me a while."
"How long?" asked Skyfire.
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so by
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"Any idea why it went bloody haywire?" naomi asked, looked at the tech, idly swinging ehr backpack.
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Response Centre #9001 by
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Mulhoon looked down at her black dress. Her hair was tied up in a severe bun, and she appeared rather impassive about the whole business.
Appearances, however, can be deceptive. In a voice as calm as the eye of a hurricane, she said, "Someone is going to die."
Render grinned at her. "Lighten up," the younger woman said. "This is kinda fun."
Mulhoon ignored her, pausing only to strap on her revolver before stalking out of the response centre to find the being responsible and make them suffer. -
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(( *is being horribly tempted by this thread* ))
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1138 B continued. by
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Alex poked her head out of the RC's doorway, looking from side to side. As she watched, a scantily clad fox holding a box of ramen noodles ran past followed by a group of very angry Agents yelling at the top of their lungs. Shaking her head, Alex stepped back inside. A moment later, a flaming frisbee whistled past the doorway where her head had been a moment earlier and she hastily closed the door. Drental watched all this with some amusement from the console chair.
"Going somewhere?"
Alex shook her head.
"Chances are Medical's clogged up, and it'll get cleared up eventually. Besides," Alex said, a smile spreading across her face. "it's not like we'll get a mission until this is over."
"True."
Walking over to a table standing next to the bathroom door, Alex picked up one of several stacks of books piled up on it. Glancing at his partner, Drental noted titles such as "Your Mind Makes It Real: How To Use Generic Substance", "Dalek: A Complete History" and "100 Ways To Kill a Warrior! Sue". Falling heavily onto the sofa, Alex opened up the first book and began reading, dead to the world. -
a knock at the door by
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As soon as he opens the book, there is a knock at the door. If he opens it, there is noone ot be scene at normal height. A small vixen does streak into the room once the door is opened though.
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"Curves in all the wrong places." Heehee. (nm) by
on 2009-01-30 23:20:00 UTC
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Okies, I'll have a go with the TekTeks ... by
on 2009-01-30 12:52:00 UTC
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And L&F's OFUR forms, just for fun:
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And at Kit's request, here's Drake and Naomi ... by
on 2009-01-30 14:01:00 UTC
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Oh gosh. by
on 2009-01-30 23:52:00 UTC
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It's Drake's expression of utter glee that really makes them, I think. :P
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Oh yeah. by
on 2009-01-31 00:34:00 UTC
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Drake likes transforming juuuuuust a little more than most agents do.
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I LOVE THEM!!! by
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especailly drake. Love the large railgun. and i do think that it is as large as she is. makes thigns was right to be nervous.
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Sorry, HERE's OFUR Boy!Foxglove. by
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*spews profanity* Sorry, I keep pasting the wrong code! by
on 2009-01-30 12:58:00 UTC
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THIS should be the right one:
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*shakes head* Genderbending. I've just never understood it. by
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Why?
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It's fun torturing our characters. By which I mean it's an interesting mental exercise, thinking about just how different they might be if they were the opposite sex. How would they be treated differently? How would a different brain organization/different hormones affect them? How would they feel about it?
That's my take, anyway. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Why do we have our board here? by
on 2009-01-30 23:55:00 UTC
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Why don't we move to Invision or Proboards or PHPbb or something? That way, old topics wouldn't fall into the abyss, and discussions would be somewhat easier to follow. Plus, it would be prettier!
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In summary, suck it up and stop whining. by
on 2009-02-02 01:13:00 UTC
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Seriously, you're really annoying, you know that? Every time I click on a thread you make I know you'll be complaining about SOMETHING. Just...stop.
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Seconding Neshomeh. Be nice. by
on 2009-02-02 21:39:00 UTC
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If Helio's threads annoy you, don't click on them.
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by
on 2009-02-02 12:02:00 UTC
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Let's see, quick rundown of the threads I've made, from memory:
- My intro thread
- Posting a writing sample
- A thread or two asking about operating procedure in certain cases
- Several badfics for sporking
- My Permission request
- A request for a beta reader
- And this one
How can any of those except maybe this one possibly be construed as complaining? I don't quite understand how this one is complaining either - it was an honest question, to which I got an answer, and I am content with the answer. The screen stretchy eye bleedy comment was largely tongue in cheek, though I recognise the difficulty of inferring tone of voice over the Internet. -
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Bad form. by
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You're not required to like everyone on the Board. You are required to be polite to everyone on the Board. If what you have to say can't be phrased in a respectful way, then keep it private.
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We seriously need a FAQ for this. :P by
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To give a rundown of the usual responses, because:
a) This is where everything links to, including the Oddlots homepage which we can't edit.
b) When we have our occasional heated debates, it's actually better that they drop into said abyss.
c) For the PPC, it's better to have a Board that's constantly moving than one where topics get pushed back to the top when commented on, since it means new topics don't get lost, old ones don't get dragged out by a couple of people, and any particularly interesting ones can be restarted after it falls off the front page.
d) The simple layout is i) traditional, and ii) easy on the eye.
e) People keep coming back after years of absence, and they wouldn't be able to find us.
And f) We're just too stubborn to give up on this place, especially given the weight of tradition behind it now.
And yes, I'm sure I've missed some reasons out. :P
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*waves* Hi, I'm a part (e)'er (nm) by
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And welcome back. :) by
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Thank you for showing up in time to prove my point.
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Easy on the eye? by
on 2009-01-31 21:49:00 UTC
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Not when you get threads as long as the RP below :P
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Re: Easy on the eye? by
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That's nothing. There have been far longer and more involved RP threads than that one in the past.
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Re: Easy on the eye? by
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But it is screen-stretchy and eye-bleedy and results in an entire screen of whitespace!
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We've been here a long time ... by
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... when all's said and done, we're comfy here :)
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Mission plug! by
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Took me forever to crank this out--I'm pretty rusty at this writing thing. Blerg. Anyways, here's the first part of my first mission. There isn't much action yet, but I hope to improve on that in the second part. Hopefully, I'll have the second bit out by next Friday.
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Not bad. by
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Look forward to more, and I hope Izel settles in well enough.
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Dimension check by
on 2009-01-31 00:33:00 UTC
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Just how big are the halls of the PPC?
Are they big enough to fit, say...
A Space Marine in full power armour?
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Now you've got me curious. by
on 2009-02-02 05:22:00 UTC
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Planning on having a Space Marine agent? I'm not sure how compatible they'd be with most other agent types, but it'd be interesting.
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Probably. by
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I would assume the designers would have allowed for all normal species types. Your average Space Marine is about 8 feet tall with power armor. 9 feet tall with Tactical Dreadnought (Terminator) armor. Probably would have to stoop, though.
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...Depends on the reason. by
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It seems to me that the halls ought to be as wide as is best for the situation. If it would be funny for the Marine (and, by the way, I know of at least three canons offhand that use that same terminology, all of which have different sizes of armor. Just saying.) to get stuck, he/she would. If it would just slow down the plot/action, he/she wouldn't.
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FOR THE EMPEROR! by
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That should give you a clue as to which canon.
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Oh, that space marine. I know. by
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which chapter? and aren;t they about 7 foot all? although not sure how much. and assume next you will ask about terminator and dreadnaughts, right?
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Eight, actually, and that's without the armour. by
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Maybe an Imperial Fist or a Dark/Blood Angel, since they strike me as the most stoic of a VERY stoic lot.
And no, no terminators or dreadnaughts, barring severe injury.
I'm actually considering one as one of my PPC agents, teamed with a Genki Girl.
If I ever get permission, anyway...
It's a long way off...
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*is sad*
A space wolf woudl be useful in sniffing out sues. although, interesting. Any idea why a space marine would be recuited, over say, a gaurdsman? Space marines are mroe monks than true agents, and well, are usually not insane. -
Well, you could say they ARE insane. by
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They're just insane more in the "Religious fanatic"/"Knight templar"/"Crusader" way than in the "gibbering lunatic" way.
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I know by
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I am a space wolf fan. for some reason, just like them.
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For the lulz? by
on 2009-01-31 01:36:00 UTC
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There is something inherently amusing about an 8 foot tall butch soldier with fanatical dedication being teamed up with a hyperactive anime 13 year old with a permanent sugar rush.
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TRue by
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there is that. i wonder what hte emperor says about sues. most likely they are considered as bad or worse than demons....
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IN HIS NAME: by
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BURN THE BADFIC
SMITE THE AUTHOR-WRAITH
KILL THE MARY SUE
By the Emperor's will, I shall see it done!
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All right, I've revised my first mission. by
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Less squick, more funny (hopefully...) Here's the link again... Hope I get permission...
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Isn't that a bit fast? I thought the idea was to wait. (nm) by
on 2009-01-31 02:14:00 UTC
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Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 01:54:00 UTC
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They're taking apostrophies out of street signs.
In Birmingham, "King's Cross" is being written on signs as "Kings Cross". The council made it official, after having apparently been quietly taking them out for years.
Quote: "Apostrophes denote possessions that are no longer accurate, and are not needed,"
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On a bus that was clearly on its way to the depot:
ITS WAY PAST THIS BUSES BEDTIME
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on 2009-02-01 21:28:00 UTC
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Apostrophes are often misused or left out. It's really irritating when it happens.
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Kings Cross? by
on 2009-02-01 18:52:00 UTC
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- Kd8?? Ke1++
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*blinks* by
on 2009-02-01 06:20:00 UTC
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Oookay, then. That makes sense, in the same way that my bed is actually a tiger. *rolls eyes*
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Run! Before it eats you! (nm) by
on 2009-02-01 06:31:00 UTC
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Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 21:28:00 UTC
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How does taking the apostrophes out make it more accurate?
See Kings!
See Kings Cross!
Cross, Kings! Cross!
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If they want to get rid of the apostrophy, then... by
on 2009-01-31 11:37:00 UTC
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They sould get rid of the `s` as well. It would only make sence. That would keep the meaning straight and not have the grammatically correct up in arms.
Just my two yen.
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Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue easily, though. by
on 2009-02-02 02:39:00 UTC
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'Course, people'd adapt, but it'd take a bit of getting used to.
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Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 10:43:00 UTC
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I saw that on the news last night and was not too pleased. It was the closest I've come to throwing something at my TV in a while. No one who pays attention in English should be confused by apostrophes.
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You're assuming, of course... by
on 2009-01-31 21:13:00 UTC
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...that people DO pay attention.
"What? All those fiddly grammatical rules? Bollocks to that, there's footy on!"
Never mind that even an IDIOT could understand said rules, but then, since when have the British (or American, for that matter) public at large ever been intelligent enough to be called 'idiots'? -
Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 11:09:00 UTC
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Yeah, but who does? I mean, some years ago I was as much as told that I was not, in fact, expected to get anything out of ninth grade English class save social experience.
Admittedly, this was the American school system, and this was near five years ago now, but...
It's going down the tubes, really.
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Wait, what? by
on 2009-01-31 10:35:00 UTC
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Excuse me whilst I go headbutt a wall. Repeatedly.
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Ack! The stupid! by
on 2009-01-31 06:52:00 UTC
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"Apostrophes denote possessions that are no longer accurate, and are not needed"?!
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Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 04:42:00 UTC
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I admit it is outrageous. It is, however, all I ever expected from the Midlands.
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Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 10:40:00 UTC
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It's not just the Midlands, Pads. ITV news had one of their reporters showing the street sign at one end of a street in London with an apostrophe placed correctly, but missing at the other end. The same reporter asked three pedestrians outside King's Cross the meaning of the apostrophe in the sign for that station, and only one got it correct.
I'm not sure where the first guy wanted to put the apostrophe, and the woman wanted to modify it to 'Kings' Cross'. -
Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 12:33:00 UTC
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*sigh*
Alright, the entire country's doomed, I suppose. Let's just break out the nukes and have done. -
Re: Something to anger all grammar lovers... by
on 2009-01-31 13:30:00 UTC
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No, bad Pads, no nukes. Some of us still have to live here, at least until they've graduated from Uni anyway. Let's not let the illiterate minority (who are unfortunately growing to a majority, but they're still a minority if we don't count all the immigrants who can't be bothered to learn English well enough to understand it) win.
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Petition, anyone? by
on 2009-01-31 17:17:00 UTC
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I have very little experience with social rabble-rousing, but I do know that if enough rabble gets roused, it can make a difference.
So... anyone with more experience know how to set up a good petition? "Save the Apostrophe" sort of thing?
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"Save The Apostrophe!" Sure, why not? by
on 2009-01-31 23:00:00 UTC
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Not that I live in England, or anywhere close, but I'll be glad to help out. ...No idea how, but I will.
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we could start with my street by
on 2009-02-01 12:38:00 UTC
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It always drives me mad when my post is addressed to "St Augustines". There should be a full stop and an apostrophe in there.
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Sounds good to me. by
on 2009-02-01 18:51:00 UTC
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I always wondered about the lack of full stops in abbreviations like that. St., Mr., all those sorts of things. I figured it was just one of those British usage things.
I say go out there with some bright red paint and mark in the appropriate punctuation. And make some angry phone calls to whoever sends letters addressed like that.
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seems that's an old one by
on 2009-02-03 17:15:00 UTC
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Been reading Origin of Species and Darwin always says Mr or Dr or whatever. Never puts a full stop after.
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Re: Sounds good to me. by
on 2009-02-01 18:58:00 UTC
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Dropping the . after Mr and Mrs is one of those examples of language evolving, similar to how we're currently in the process of doing away with the hyphen. Saint, however, is only ever shortened in street names (well, and actual saints' names, but who ever writes about those?), so one can't really make quite the same argument for dropping the punctuation.
I'd have to go round all the local pubs too. Within three minutes' walk from here are "Queens", "Nags Head", and "St Johns". And buggered if I'm defacing the latter, because it's my local. -
Poor little hyphen. by
on 2009-02-01 20:15:00 UTC
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It's such a useful critter. Clears up so much potential ambiguity, and yet is so unappreciated. And who even knows about the en-dash? Is it weird that I suddenly want plush punctuation marks just so I can cuddle the poor unloved things?
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Re: Poor little hyphen. by
on 2009-02-02 01:29:00 UTC
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Funny thing, that, the clearing of ambiguity. English is already unusual in that word order is of paramount importance, thanks to our dislike of declensions. You lose the hyphen, and word order becomes even more important. So I like it, in a way. Losing the hyphen further distinguishes English from other, declining languages. (And by Glod I hate declining things. Old Norse this semester is going to be murder.)
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Seconded. All of it. by
on 2009-02-01 20:33:00 UTC
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There's a furniture warehouse in my city called "My Mate Johns". It makes me want to tear my hair out.
On the other hand, I like dropping the full stop after "Mr" and "Mrs" - otherwise it's far too easy to misread it as the end of a sentence. As for saints... bleh. Same story, I guess.
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I don't have a problem with thous. by
on 2009-01-31 02:41:00 UTC
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This, however, is the height of stupidity. Are they saying that the plural is more accurate than the possessive? 'Cause that's what it is now. And, maybe this is just me, being raised American and all, but when I see Queens English, I think the accent and dialect associated with an area in New York City. {= P
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... by
on 2009-01-31 12:04:00 UTC
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That actually makes more sense than this decision, actually. *Miles Edgeworth head shake* Some people are just too ignorant. Appalling, to be quite honest. At least your comment was worth a laugh, which is more than I can say for this ruling.
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*blush* I was angry. I typed too fast. by
on 2009-01-31 03:39:00 UTC
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Was meant to be "this".
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PLUG! by
on 2009-01-31 02:39:00 UTC
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I wrote a pretty good poem (or at least that's what everyone says it is, I still think it's a super short story) a few days ago that I'm pretty proud of. Take a look!
http://zoe9.livejournal.com/2124.html#cutid1
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Re: PLUG! by
on 2009-01-31 04:35:00 UTC
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I confess, it didn't get me. The second stanza's exclamation mark looked like a plea for comedy. The rest looked... fairly designed to provoke a specific reaction, to be honest.
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ack, that didn't come out right by
on 2009-01-31 12:54:00 UTC
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Many apologies. Was extremely drunk when I posted last night, and Pan Galactics turn me into a very unpleasant person. Forgive me being needlessly harsh?
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No problem! I appreciate your comment. by
on 2009-01-31 18:54:00 UTC
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I like to hear the honest truth on my writing. How else can I improve?
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That IS pretty damn amazing. by
on 2009-01-31 03:33:00 UTC
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I'm reminded of Shylock's speech from the Merchant Of Venice, which would be appropriate, actually. [/random Shakespeare reference]
This is haunting, eloquent. You grow up listening to stories of the Holocaust every year... the names of the camps are fixed in your memory, and the number 'six million,' but it's different like that, less tangible.
There's just something eerie about this. Definitely submit it to something.
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Thanks. by
on 2009-01-31 19:00:00 UTC
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I'm glad you liked it. I always feel the need to share my work with at least a billion people before I do anything with it. *shrugs* What can I say? I'm a perfectionist when it comes to my writing. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
~Zoe~
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Star Wars/LotR crossover badfic by
on 2009-01-31 11:05:00 UTC
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What Fate Can Overcome
Haunted by dreams of her missing family, Mara and Luke search the galaxy for clues. Their quest leads them to a technology-barren planet called Arda, where they quickly learn that the Skywalker name is hated. LotR crossover. Mention of slash & mpreg.
'Tis apparently a sequel to another fic by the same author, which focuses on Obi-Wan.
Cruel Trick of Fate
During the Clone Wars, ObiWan Kenobi crashes his fighter and is stranded on an unknown Outer Rim planet called Arda. There he finds the one thing Jedi are forbidden to have: love. LotR crossover, ObiWanAragorn, SLASH, MPREG. 1st in my Arda trilogy. -
One word: by
on 2009-01-31 11:33:00 UTC
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What.
That's just...
Um.
I'm not sure there are sufficient words in this language to accurately describe that.
It has so much potential to be good despite the immediate turn-offs and then falls flat on its face. Arg. I hate it when that happens. -
Bleh. Seconded. The first few chapters seem so good, then... by
on 2009-01-31 22:34:00 UTC
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*wince*
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What is official policy on charges? by
on 2009-01-31 12:00:00 UTC
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They must always be read in the event of a Mary Sue, but what about other cases? When Jay and Acacia got shifted to the DoIC, they didn't read out chargelists. When should and shouldn't charges be read out?
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In the DBS by
on 2009-01-31 21:22:00 UTC
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we generally record the charges, and they determine what we exorcise the Authorwraith in the name of; for example, you would banish things like PWP or paedophilia or illogic or inaccurate anatomy ...
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I suppose that by
on 2009-01-31 13:39:00 UTC
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whenever there's someone to hear the charges, the charges should be read out. Be it a Mary Sue, or Author Wraith or what have you. I could be wrong though.
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Beta requested by
on 2009-01-31 22:42:00 UTC
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hS told me I had to get a beta to make sure I kept within PPC canon. I'm coming to the end of the first chapter of my first mission, and I'd like to run it past someone so I can upload it. The fic is a three-way crossover between Harry Potter, Young Wizards and LotR.
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Double-Posting by
on 2009-02-02 18:02:00 UTC
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Hey, just so you know, usually on the Board we try to discourage posting topics directly one after another. That's just because, like you noticed on asking about changing sites, old topics get pushed off of the bottom, and eventually disappear completely. It's no big deal now and then, but just so you know, to save space, we try to not post too many original topics on top of each other.
Also, congratulations on writing your first mission! (I don't know Young Wizards, and it looks like you've got a beta already) but good job! -
Still need a beta? by
on 2009-02-02 03:00:00 UTC
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willing to do look over it if needed.
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Addendum by
on 2009-02-01 15:58:00 UTC
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Knowledge of the LoTR canon would be highly appreciated, as I know far less about that than about the other two.
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Send it my way. by
on 2009-02-01 19:02:00 UTC
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exswyzie14 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
That's a crossover I can't resist. I'm almost afraid to know how the Young Wizards canon got dragged into it. {= P All I ask is that you have patience with me. I like to be thorough and I don't always have the kind of time I need.
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Will do. by
on 2009-02-01 20:20:00 UTC
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I've only sporked the first chapter so far. Do you have any kind of IM I can get hold of you over?
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I'm on AIM more often than not. by
on 2009-02-01 20:39:00 UTC
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Username = ElJenn
I have to have you as my buddy for you to be able to see me, though.
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Re: I'm on AIM more often than not. by
on 2009-02-03 16:27:00 UTC
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*makes an aol account just so she can harrass Neshomeh*
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If you're really determined... by
on 2009-02-03 20:00:00 UTC
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You'll have to give me your account name so I can add you to my buddy list, or you won't see me. {; p
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don't you get the request? by
on 2009-02-04 00:15:00 UTC
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I tried to make the account name Paddlebrains, but it's taken. That's... mildly worrying. So it's AgentPads.
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Nope. by
on 2009-02-04 01:00:00 UTC
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I wasn't aware that AIM sent requests, actually. I know Windows Live/MSN does, though.
I know that feeling. "Neshomeh" was taken on Gaia. First time that's happened to me with this screen name.
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It doesn't? Huh. by
on 2009-02-05 12:21:00 UTC
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I've never had my user taken. To the point where if you Google Heliomance, every single result is me. :D
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really? by
on 2009-02-03 16:33:00 UTC
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if so, feel free to harass me too. xcom102a . can always use someone to talk to.
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Added you by
on 2009-02-01 21:06:00 UTC
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Username = Heliomance, funnily enough!
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interesting by
on 2009-02-02 15:44:00 UTC
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mind if i add you too to mine? i'm xcom102a on aim. long story.
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Go for it (nm) by
on 2009-02-03 12:24:00 UTC
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okay by
on 2009-02-04 11:53:00 UTC
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have you there, but for some reason, you don;t respond.
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Heh by
on 2009-02-05 12:18:00 UTC
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I have a habit of leaving my laptop in my room connected to the Internet. Just because it says I'm online doesn't mean I'm there.
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oh by
on 2009-02-06 13:25:00 UTC
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that explains it. thanks for the info.