For those of you who remember, Mystia and I took on a mission a while back and promptly proceeded to procrastinate like the wind. Approximately a year later we got back to it, and lo and behold the first part (split in two, because livejournal is like that) is already written up and ready for your viewing.
http://mysticcreep.livejournal.com/907.html
The first half of the first part
http://mysticcreep.livejournal.com/1264.html
The second half of the first part
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2761420/1/Expect_the_Unexpected
The target
Enjoy the fireworks, kids =D
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A mission by
on 2008-10-11 05:54:00 UTC
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Yay! by
on 2008-10-11 20:06:00 UTC
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This looks good so far. You guys make a good team. Also, I know just enough about Yu Yu Hakusho to be really annoyed by Kurama's characterization, so I'm glad to see this dealt with.
I have one nitpick, and that is that Bleepka is not alcoholic. It is explicitly "pseudo-alcoholic," because Bleep-products and alcohol tend to explode on contact. Mind you, some intrepid folks have actually managed alcoholic Bleep-products (e.g. the Pan-Galactic Gargle Bleeprin Blaster), but Bleepka is not one of them. The Wiki isn't very specific about these things, but if you check out the Substance Menu, you'll get more details.
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Yay yay! The first part! by
on 2008-10-11 05:58:00 UTC
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I'm so happy we got this much done. Boogey and I collaborated on this part but the majority of the writing is his. The next part will be mostly my doing and will be up NOT a year from now, but much sooner. Boogey will come up with deadlines for me and will punish me if I don't meet them. And not in the sexy hunkydory punishment way because that's not the way Boogeyman and I do things.
We love you all like crazy, and we ought to post on the boards more often instead of lurking like we do and we know that. And therefore, we welcome concrit in all its forms.
Much love and hugs,
Mystia
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It's my 16th birthday today! by
on 2008-10-11 12:02:00 UTC
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However, it dosen't mean that my Temp. Dishwasher/Future Agent is going to age a bit. Oh, and I don't want a party, feast, banquet, or any gathering of more than two people with food, party hats, and gifts. What I want is for people to actally remember that I have a LiveJournal, and comment on it once in a while. Can't the Wik have some (platonic) love?
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Happy Birthday! by
on 2008-10-12 16:52:00 UTC
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Sorry for being late, but I haven't been able to get on the computer. So I hope you enjoyed youself!
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It's okay. Just remember that I have a... by
on 2008-10-13 13:21:00 UTC
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LiveJournal, and it has writings in it.
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Happy birthday by
on 2008-10-12 13:41:00 UTC
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Sorry for being later. here, have sue meat and bone combat sporks, collectors edition
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Thanks! (nm) by
on 2008-10-13 13:23:00 UTC
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY! by
on 2008-10-11 23:06:00 UTC
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Sorry about not using LJ much - it's so much easier here.
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Eee! Happy birthday! by
on 2008-10-11 22:50:00 UTC
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*glomphuggle*
Anyway, have some chocolate chip cookies and a scarf! Because winter's coming, y'know... -
I'm currently living in the tropics...but thanks! by
on 2008-10-12 12:41:00 UTC
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I love chocolate chip cookies.
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2008-10-11 22:01:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday by
on 2008-10-11 21:24:00 UTC
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If you don't want a party, feel free to borrow my hiding-under rock :)
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2008-10-11 20:54:00 UTC
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Haha...happy birthday! by
on 2008-10-11 20:33:00 UTC
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Have a nice (platonic) hug.
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Happy Birthday! by
on 2008-10-11 19:40:00 UTC
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And as a birthday gift, the Division of More Dakka has approved a request to requisition you one dark lance, suitable for infantry use.
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Cool! by
on 2008-10-12 12:43:00 UTC
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I perfer Gauss Flayers or Warscythes (not just the necron ones, but the original polish weapons) myself.
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*gives rabies* Happy Birthday by
on 2008-10-11 17:27:00 UTC
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Have a Mark IV K-9! (nm) by
on 2008-10-11 16:56:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2008-10-11 16:00:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
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Thanks! (nm) by
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'Costume' Party? by
on 2008-10-12 03:32:00 UTC
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Would anyone be interested in a 'Costume' Party, what with Halloween coming up?
Idea would be instead of using our usual usernames, we'd use a costume thing for username, or go by a character's name - thus being in costume/disguise.
And then do this on either the secondary board or the Bravo chat, or maybe even both?
Using the second board has the advantage of what's going on being recorded where everyone can see it, but disadvantage in that your disguise can be undermined by people just checking your IP address. Chat has advantage of immediacy and anonymity (fairly sure, at least) but disadvantage of not able to record it unless someone constantly copies while they're in there.
And be either from the 17th to 19th or 24th to 26th. Since I figure Halloween weekend anyone doing Halloween stuff would be doing that.
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on 2008-10-13 00:50:00 UTC
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So I'm not present there. But I'd be fine just doing it here on the secondary board.
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Sounds fun... by
on 2008-10-12 23:18:00 UTC
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... and I have access to multiple IP's, so that just spells all sorts of incognito fun on this rarest of boards where proper grammar isn't a dead giveaway as to my identity.
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Oooh, fun. by
on 2008-10-12 21:01:00 UTC
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I'd say the secondary Board and trust that cheaters won't check IPs.
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Sounds fun! by
on 2008-10-12 15:01:00 UTC
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I kind of find the board harder to keep track of, sometimes, but… it should be okay. Either'd be fine.
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on 2008-10-12 09:15:00 UTC
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I would say we should do both - as long as people use the same name on them both, it should be fine.
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I'd say use the Board - chat tends to fall apart by
on 2008-10-12 08:42:00 UTC
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as in, disconnect, crash, be out of sync, and a whole lot of other problems. Besides, you'd have to make a deliberate effort to tell people apart by IPs
Question - what if two people pick the same character?
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Oooh, sounds like fun! by
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I'd rather use the board, I'm sure we can trust people (who aren't July) to not spoil the game by paying attention to IP addresses. Or maybe we could turn off the feature that registers IP addresses just for the two days?
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I'm with OA by
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Surely people can keep a lid on their curiosity enough to keep the game alive?
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on 2008-10-12 06:20:00 UTC
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I like. Chat. 24th-26th'd probably be best for me. XD
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Awesome! by
on 2008-10-12 06:15:00 UTC
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my vote is for the chat. Masquerades ain't no fun if everyone can see under your mask.
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Good idea by
on 2008-10-12 05:06:00 UTC
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We could have a lot of fun with this. Or just end up knowing more then we'd like about people.
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on 2008-10-12 04:03:00 UTC
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I vote for the secondary board, since I've never used the chat. Either time works for me.
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Sounds fun. by
on 2008-10-12 03:55:00 UTC
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I don't know if I'll be able to do it, what with school being how it is, but do know that I'm not available at all the 17th-19th.
I tend to prefer live chat RP, but the recording aspect of the message board also appeals. Er, both?
~Neshomeh
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The ESSAY! by
on 2008-10-12 09:41:00 UTC
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*nurses bruised arms* As I have been so pointedly reminded - ;p - I promised you all a copy of my university project, the informative essay on fanfiction. So... here it is.
Let me say, though, that I sincerely hope you won't be disappointed - this was not, after all, written for those of us who already know the fanfic world, but rather as an introduction for those who don't. So there won't be anything here that you lot don't already know.
I was going to do this on LJ or googledocs, but my nice formatting with the pictures would have been lost, so instead I've turned it into a PDF file - two of them, actually. A long version, which includes the appendix, citations and bibliography, and a short version, which does not, and should be nicer to slow connections.
In case you wonder about the thin black box under the subtitle - that was my name, but as I'd like to keep my internet and real life identites separate, I blacked it out. Not that I don't trust you, of course - :) - but I do want to publish a longer version of this as a proper book someday - soon - and so I'm a little protective. Hence, also, why I made it a PDF. Please don't share it around too much; show people, sure (particularly parents and teachers - who complain about us "wasting our time" on the net - hint, hint, Ciri), but don't give other people copies of the file, or link them to the download. Please.
If any of you don't have the reader program for PDF files, email me and I'll send you a Word copy. fanwriter_sedri@hotmail.com
Feel free to tell me if you find anything you disagree with, that is factually wrong, or that you think I misinterpreted. Spelling/punctuation errors too, if you want, but as it's already been handed in, there's not much point there.
And... yeah. Hope you like it - particularly those of you I interviewed. *crosses fingers*
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Simply amazing. by
on 2008-10-16 08:22:00 UTC
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Really, I'm beginning to think that simple words won't do it justice. Let's put it this way: I am highly considering showing my parents this essay.
My parents, who have always been at least slightly dubious about fanfiction and the various other shenanigans I get up to on the internet. :P
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Please do! by
on 2008-10-16 22:14:00 UTC
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Show your parents, I mean. That's what it exists for, after all.
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Hurrah! by
on 2008-10-14 02:46:00 UTC
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I wish I'd had this to show around when I was in high school. I had to prove fanfic and role-play weren't ruining my life through sheer persistence, which often wasn't pretty. ^^;
Anyway, it's a very well-written essay. The way you keep coming back to The Wizard of Oz and Wicked really helps tie it together.
And, a little self-indulgent moment: Yay, I got quoted! ^^ I'm glad I said something useful to you.
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You were particularly quote-able by
on 2008-10-14 22:28:00 UTC
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You're in there twice, I think. Once in separately and once in the middle of a paragraph.
*hugs* Thanks! I was having trouble trying to use examples that everyone would know, sticking with things like Harry Potter, LotR and so on, but my teacher gave me the idea of describing one story early on to frame it, so I took that idea and ran with it. I'm very pleased with how it turned (not to mention the fact that I'm completely in love with Wicked just now.
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Gah. I got a bit lost on the boards earlier this morning. by
on 2008-10-13 17:04:00 UTC
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Ehem. Sedri you are awesome. I think you are brilliant and I loved the essay. Major love goes out to you and those you interviewed and all that goodfic you collected in one place. Wunderbar!
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*hugs* Thanks! (nm) by
on 2008-10-14 00:42:00 UTC
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In case anyone's having trouble downloading it... by
on 2008-10-13 03:26:00 UTC
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Megaupload does a lot of advertising - sorry 'bout that - and makes things rather complex.
The links I gave you will go to a very busy page with no direct download link - you need to find an orange "download" button next to a box and a three-letter picture code. Enter the code, hit the button, and it will take you to another busy page with a table showing how their premium downloads are so much better. Ignore that and look at the little button saying "please wait _ seconds" - it has a countdown from thirty, then turns into a "free download" button. Click that.
Sorry again.
In better news, I just made an account at FictionPress to host the whole thing there, permanenetly, but they have a two-day waiting period for new members, so I can't put it up just yet. My account is
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Yes! Something to shove in the face of... by
on 2008-10-13 01:01:00 UTC
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...all my teachers and friends who don't believe in fanfic! Next time they say something about my obsession with fanfic, I can go, "Oh, but even college students are obsessed! See? This one fanwriter wrote this awesome essay for an university project! See? See?"
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Really good, Sedri. Clear, concise, and very informative. Let us know what you get for a grade.
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Will do. Should be a few weeks, though. Thanks! (nm) by
on 2008-10-13 03:13:00 UTC
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Beautiful. by
on 2008-10-12 21:11:00 UTC
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Very, very, very well done. I giggled through most of it.
Thank you so much for posting. I love it, and next time I get complained at, shall be shoving it in a few faces. XD
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Shove away! by
on 2008-10-12 22:56:00 UTC
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That's what it's for, after all. *hugs* Glad you like it!
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Well... by
on 2008-10-13 03:31:00 UTC
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...some of the quotes...not to mention the fact that I giggle whenever someone writes about fanfic for school. Maybe giggles of triumph? *snicker*
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Ah. Fair enough. Giggles Of Triumph it is! (nm) by
on 2008-10-13 05:14:00 UTC
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Woohoo! by
on 2008-10-12 16:51:00 UTC
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I've just downloaded the long version, so I'll read it and then leave something slightly more constructive. >
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Just the citations for the in-text quotes and a list of stories, which is aimed more at my professor than those of us who can find good 'fics for ourselves.
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Ah! Something to prove to my parental units that I ain't... by
on 2008-10-12 14:34:00 UTC
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...wastin' my time online *grins*
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I hope it convinces them by
on 2008-10-12 22:53:00 UTC
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Thank you!
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It's a good one. by
on 2008-10-12 13:34:00 UTC
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Now, can you show me how to delete it? I forgot that my mom forbade me from downloading anything from the internet while we still haven't updated our AntiVirus program.
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er... the file? Hit "delete"? by
on 2008-10-12 22:46:00 UTC
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And then go to your recycle bin and delete it from there, too. I promise it's not contaminated, though.
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I can't find the file! (nm) by
on 2008-10-13 11:30:00 UTC
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Re: I can't find the file! by
on 2008-10-13 14:50:00 UTC
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Did you choose 'Open With...' or 'Save To..' when you downloaded it? If you chose the first one then it'll have gone into a temporary folder. If you choose the latter then you'll have to find where you saved it to delete it.
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*laughs and laughs* (nm) by
on 2008-10-13 13:14:00 UTC
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Heaven spare us.... by
on 2008-10-13 01:43:00 UTC
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The nightmarish fanfiction, My Immortal, has a sequel.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4555834/1/My_Immortal_2_Wake_Me_Up_Inside
Yes. Someone who may or may not be Tara (though the writing is almost exactly like hers from the later chapters of My Immortal) has taken it upon themselves to write more of "Enoby's" plotless self-insert.
It's a horrid nightmare. SealRat and I are currently sporking My Immortal (as in, we've talked about what we plan to do), so we might as well take the sequel on once we've finished the original. -
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on 2008-12-01 00:29:00 UTC
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I happen to LIKE Evanescence. This is an insult. Spork it with much mighty.
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Honestly? I'm amused by
on 2008-10-14 13:56:00 UTC
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I think I've been exposed to Tara, and several of her proteges, enough to develop nothing more than scathing amusement for it. And also a special built cattle prod capable of dealing voltage in the million volts area.
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*brain shuts down* by
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SYSTEM FAILURE. MUST REBOOT.
RUNNING DIAGNOSIS....
DIAGNOISIS COMPLETE. TARA GISELBE IS TO BLAME. MY IMMORTAL 2 IS TO BLAME.
KILL TARA. SPORK MY IMMORTAL 2. BURN PIT OF VOLES.
BRAIN REBOOTED.
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Alright, I find myself incredulous. by
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Not that there's a sequel, you KNEW that was going to happen. I find myself wondering if this writer is doing this on purpose. At this point I think Tara may not be one of the internet's worst writers, but one of its greatest trolls. An alpha troll, as it were, the template from which all lesser trolls would be cast.
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GLORDS! by
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How could it be?
Mad Hattie, you are a brave brave person.
*joins JulyFlame's efforts in using bleepka as rocket fuel*
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She is Tara... by
on 2008-10-13 10:16:00 UTC
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Or at least claims to be. Check the Satanic Hymns rubbish (which I just laughed at). She signed it. Wait... hold on... could Tara spell her own name?
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*scream of terror* by
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b-but...how?? Why?? After all she's already done...How could she do this?... *has flashback to original My Immortal* OH LORD, WHERE'S THE BLEEPKA??? *cries*
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It gets worse... by
on 2008-10-13 03:55:00 UTC
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Apparently she's done the same to Twilight, too.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3879551/1/Twila_The_Girl_Who_Waz_In_Luv_With_A_Vampyre/
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She can't be both? by
on 2008-10-14 14:12:00 UTC
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Anyways, if you need them, I offer up my Agents to help with your mish. Liadan is pretty good at rounding up those loose vowels which seemed to have vanished from her writing.
Though, does that really count as being in the Harry Potter Universe anymore? By this point I think it's a story that coincidentally has a few characters and locations in common.
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I feel dizzy...*faints*
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I'm seeing if it can also function as rocket fuel! :D (nm) by
on 2008-10-13 05:47:00 UTC
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+++ Melon Melon Melon +++ by
on 2008-10-13 03:04:00 UTC
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+++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot. +++
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I'm declaring Tara my mortal enemy. She must be stopped. (nm) by
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Book signing in Liverpool, Nov 3rd. by
on 2008-10-13 16:01:00 UTC
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Brian Jacques' next book signing is November 3, 12:30pm, at St George's Hall in Liverpool. Would any other Brian Jacques fans here like to go? I figured we could meet there, if anyone else is free that day.
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Alas, I'm on the wrong side of the ocean. by
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Have fun.
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He's touring in the US ... by
on 2008-10-13 16:46:00 UTC
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http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Brian_Jacques_on_Tour
... so if you're near any of those places you could go. Of course it wouldn't be as much fun because I wouldn't be there *grin*
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This is random, but... by
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I know Bleeprin can't be mixed with alcohol, but what about uranium? Or any other radioactive substance? Does anyone know what would happen if this were tested?
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Injesting radioactive material tends to be bad. by
on 2008-10-14 00:01:00 UTC
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Very bad. And it would probably be volatile enough to blow up half of HQ.
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Yes, well... by
on 2008-10-14 00:14:00 UTC
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What about the rest of the periodic table?
http://www.webelements.com/
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... well, what would the reason be for mixing bleepproducts with other elements? It's easy enough to make explosives/poisons etc without involving bleepproducts.
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Things I Learned Today by
on 2008-10-14 01:20:00 UTC
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Chem class and the PPC don't mix.
If I want to set stuff on fire I can throw firecrackers in the backyard.
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Since you are interested in the subject, I present you with the `Ye Olde Colourfull Poisons` Kit. It contains every known element with recipes on some of my more favourite poisons (University Chemistry is so much fun). Careful though, some of those elements do not mix with the atmosphere or anything for that matter!
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Well.. by
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You don't have to be insane at all for fire and explosions to be cool, after all, pyrotechnicians presumably do the job cos it's fun, and you'd have to be pretty damn sane to be given the license... Giggling though ... I think you just need to have too much sugar in your system.
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Since when do any of us have any purpose other than that? (nm) by
on 2008-10-14 02:55:00 UTC
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Point. by
on 2008-10-14 02:59:00 UTC
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But we usually try to at least spuriously justify our actions so as not to be labelled complete Sues :P
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*steals fire from Gods* Erm... A Goddess!Sue was after it? (nm) by
on 2008-10-14 05:02:00 UTC
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*Steals fire from OA.* She's secretly a Suethor? (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 07:24:00 UTC
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*handcuffs* You're under arrest. *grin* (nm) by
on 2008-10-17 00:08:00 UTC
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While I'm not normally opposed to handcuffs... by
on 2008-10-17 15:21:00 UTC
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In this case I really must protest! I'm innocent, your firey honour!
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You're both under arrest. by
on 2008-10-17 21:12:00 UTC
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Now, who's gonna be the judge, and where's our jury?
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I call Jury Duty! (nm) by
on 2008-10-18 02:52:00 UTC
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Don't I get a lawyer? (nm) by
on 2008-10-18 06:08:00 UTC
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Do you have the money for a lawyer? (nm) by
on 2008-10-18 15:04:00 UTC
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Well, no... by
on 2008-10-19 04:16:00 UTC
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But that just means I have to find a lawyer willing to accept cake as payment!
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No money here either. by
on 2008-10-20 02:14:00 UTC
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But I officially kidnap that giant chicken from Family Guy to be OA's lawyer, and Trojie to be mine... Sedri can be judge!
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You'll blow up HQ. That said... by
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... disguise it as a bottle of fertilizer and give it to the Flowers.
Bleepka + any chemically active substance = Very Bad Idea.
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OT: Plug: original fantasy. by
on 2008-10-14 00:06:00 UTC
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I'm plugging my FictionPress account, because I just put some stories on there and they look sad and lonely without any reviews. Here's my account: http://www.fictionpress.com/u/155056/
And, y'know, feel free to look at my other stuff while you're there. ^_~
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Related question: What makes a good summary? by
on 2008-10-14 05:36:00 UTC
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How do you hook people without giving away all the important elements of a short story? How do you answer "why should I read this?" about your own work? How do you think my summaries are, and what could I do better?
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That's a good question. by
on 2008-10-14 22:21:00 UTC
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I really don't know. When summarising a fanfic, I always have a general idea of what fanfic readers are attracted by (particularly the types of readers I want - ie, not dragging a book purist into a Susan/Caspian story), but with original fiction... bah.
It probably says something that I read your summaries and didn't start reading the stories. (Something besides the fact that I have almsot no spare time.) I skimmed one of them, but not already knowing the characters, I couldn't fall in easily.
I suppose the most important thing for an original fic summary is to make it sound familiar; give potential readers a grounding with something they already know (say, an apparently stock character - the Innocent Princess, for example) and then give an enticing twist (one of my favourite childrens' books was called "The Tough Princess").
In general... I'd say it needs to be enticing without seeming to beg. Quotes from the text would be good, if you can find something concise and illustrative enough.
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on 2008-10-15 01:07:00 UTC
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I'll pick your brain about other things. Which story did you skim, and what could I do to make it more fall-into-able, given that you're not expected to know the characters?
I've noticed that I've garnered a lot of hits on my stories, but only three actual comments, and two of those on older works that I'm not really concerned about at the moment. I understand time constraints, but I was really hoping for good critical reading whenever people were/are able to do it. "Opportunity" is really short. So is "Natural Consequences." Pick a single element of a story to critique, even. Title, summary, intro, ending, description(s)... I know I need a better title for "Fugitive," for example. It doesn't really say anything useful about the story.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as pushy or anything like that. I'm just sick of not getting anything beyond "that's cool" and "I liked it" from my RL friends and family. I mean, compliments are good, too, but tell my why it was cool, or what made you like it if that's the case. If something doesn't work, why not? {= P
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I can do that... by
on 2008-10-15 07:02:00 UTC
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But you'll forgive me for not doing it instantly. I'll save all this and read it this evening, and get back to you - by email, maybe?
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That would be awesome. by
on 2008-10-15 08:04:00 UTC
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And, yeah, absolutely in your own time.
I'm not sure whether or not you have my e-mail, so just in case, it is exswyzie14 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com, with the obvious replacements.
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In my experience... by
on 2008-10-16 06:36:00 UTC
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You just need to make the summary memorable. Stock characters are a good way to go, they're easy to remember and identify with, but word it wrong and you can make it sound cliche. For me, to make a good summary, you need to give away a small detail that the readers will find out quickly, and make it interesting. One of the best summaries I've seen came from one of my friends for her Sailor Moon fanfic:
'Dane's not fussed she's suddenly the stormheeled warrior, Sailor Aello. she's got more important stuff to be concerned about then wangsting over a past life. That chainsaw inspired youma rushing at her head for example...'
From that, we know it's set in the Sailor Senshi Universe, the character, unlike most, isn't thrilled to be one of the Sailor Scouts, and makes it funny. That instantly caught my attention (Even though I don't follow Sailor Moon) and made me have a look-see.
Now, let's take a look at 'Opportunity'.
'A young king, having just taken back his family's crown, seeks advice from a loyal duke. How the heck do you rule a whole kingdom, anyway? Same world as "Turn, Turn, Turn" and "Fugitive;" different time and place. Completed May, 2008.'
Ok, we can tell it's slightly unusual, because the King doesn't know what to do. However, what throws people off is the latter part of it. Most, if they follow your stories, would assume it's set in the same Universe, and usually they don't really care when it's completed. I know that does sound harsh, but if you saw that on a story, you'd probably pass over it.
Now, let's see if we can pump some life into it!
'Oliver, having just come to the throne of his Kingdom has come to an epic conclusion; he has no idea how to be king! Deciding to better himself, he seeks out the advice of one of his most trusted subjects to find what it truly means to be King.'
Though it might be me being biased, that one seems a little more energetic. It seems a little lighter than what you might be going for though, so I'll try again.
'With his enemies defeated and his family restored to the throne, King Oliver must try to understand what it is to be a King. Realising he can't take this journey alone, he seeks the help of one of his family's most trusted Advisors.'
It's more stoic than the last, but it gets the information across. The word 'Journey' also peaks the responder's interest, and may make them more likely to click.
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Thanks, guys. by
on 2008-10-17 19:16:00 UTC
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I really appreciate the feedback. With my college years coming to an end, I'm trying to get serious about this, because it's what I really want to do aside from my "real" job.
I've updated most of the summaries now, so I hope they're better. I did keep the "originally completed" dates on the ones that were written more than a year before I actually posted them. I agree that it was clutter in the case of the newer ones, but I think it's important to give an accurate sense of how I've changed (ideally "improved") over time.
Thanks again.
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Just checking - you did get my email, then? (nm) by
on 2008-10-17 23:24:00 UTC
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Yep, I did. by
on 2008-10-18 03:00:00 UTC
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I have limited internet access at the moment, but I'll reply more fully later. {= )
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No worries - just checking. Take your time. (nm) by
on 2008-10-19 00:01:00 UTC
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Flashpatch for the Dept. of Character Protective Services? by
on 2008-10-14 02:43:00 UTC
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I suggest that a golden shield be the image on the flashpatch of this department. Anyone have any objections?
(I'm in the middle of a DCPS mission, and I was about to mention the flashpatch when I realised I didn't know what it was, and so I went to the wiki, and behold! There is no designated flashpatch for this department!) -
*nods* In addition, you could... by
on 2008-10-14 22:11:00 UTC
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Have the initials of particular characters or names of continua 'engraved' (read: written / crudely stitched) on the shield. But that's detail. Shield sounds good - why gold, though? (I don't particularly like gold, you see. Prefer silver.)
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Gold because.... by
on 2008-10-14 22:16:00 UTC
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...it usually gets used to symbolise the premium, best service offered. And we want to reassure our characters :)
(I prefer silver as well, for myself, but gold tends to be used for 'yay, we're the best')
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I could start a whole rant on gold/silver discrimination... by
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But I won't. Unless my non-existant boyfriend decides to buy a gold engagement ring, because I want silver. But that aside...
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OT, but on the theoretical occasion that I get engaged ... by
on 2008-10-16 14:49:00 UTC
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... I don't want engagement or wedding rings at all. I hate wearing rings, they're fiddly and uncomfortable and easy to lose. There, it's ever so much simpler and cheaper that way. *grin*
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I wouldn't mind one, but it'd be hard to get one that fits by
on 2008-10-16 22:13:00 UTC
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As I have a ring size something like Q-and-a-half, which is bigger than they usually stock, at least for womens' rings. I suppose I'd find actually wearing one to be annoying, too, but I love the symbolism of attatchment (but not the idea that only women wear rings until the wedding itself. Men should, too).
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Good idea. Should I get married, I do hope to ... by
on 2008-10-17 03:21:00 UTC
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... adjust the more sexist traditions. If I have an engagement ring (or other token), so does he. If my dad walks me down the aisle, his mum has to walk him down. If I'm wearing white, so is he.
Though I'm sorely tempted to deliberately attempt to get my theoretical wedding on SomethingAwful.com and hold something a la the wedding in the final arc of Home On The Strange: http://www.homeonthestrange.com/archive.php
Speaking of webcomic weddings, you may like this: http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp09042006.shtml -
I am officially Never Going To Get Married. by
on 2008-10-19 00:09:00 UTC
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Not only is it a lot of fuss, it's also mostly illegal in most parts of my home country the way my sexuality is going. xD Also I can't stand formality, and any jewelry I wear gets lost or broken within a day except for ear studs which are basically stuck in my ear. So yeah...
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*chuckles* 'tis funny. by
on 2008-10-17 23:23:00 UTC
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And I certainly agree with kicking the sexist traditions. I don't want to wear white - not all white. If he's wearing a tux, I'll have a black-and-white dress... though I'd rather something with colour, like green or blue. Light blue. Like the Earth. And I don't want my father walking me down the aisle - I want to walk alone.
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Light blue is quite popular for wedding dresses, actually. by
on 2008-10-18 01:19:00 UTC
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It's only pretty recently that the "white dress" tradition came in, and it seems to be going out of style now. Blue is supposed to be a lucky wedding colour, according to Snopes.
White makes me look jaundiced, anyway. Or maybe it's only the combination of navy and white (my school uniform - I looked like a zombie even before I started pulling all-nighters for exams), I don't know because I don't wear white clothes often.
My favourite weddings are some I saw on etiquettehell.com. Apparently there was a couple who were married in the family-owned grocery store, in full traditional wedding regalia, with the bride's mother sitting at the counter and continuing to conduct business throughout the whole ceremony. And another; "It was at the local courthouse, they stopped on the way there to buy milk and bread, and they wore regular clothes, the groom in jeans." Well, it's a lot less fuss than the usual way ... I think, if I get married, I'll deliberately try to make my wedding so horrifying someone sends it to etiquettehell.com. -
We're so terribly OT, but oh, well... by
on 2008-10-19 09:53:00 UTC
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When I was seven, I declared for the world to hear that I was going to walk down the aisle in jeans.
Still, pure light blue wouldn't suit me either; a mix of white, mid-blue and a forest green... that appeals to me.
And I'm off to check out etiquettehell.com! -
Holy cow (very OT) by
on 2008-10-16 23:15:00 UTC
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Snap! I wear a Q and a half ring; my engagement ring had to be resized cos I couldn't even get it over my knuckle :)
And it's white gold ... because while I prefer silver, I also have the mystical power to turn it black within a day. I am constantly cleaning my silver jewellery, and The Boy, bless him, figured I'd rather a white gold ring. Clever boy. The wedding ring will probably be white gold too. Looks like silver, but I can't tarnish it.
Srsly, if I were a Marvelverse mutant, my power would be the ability to corrode metal. I also manage to turn copper and bronze green within hours, and to erode electroplate so that the nickel comes off and then whatever it was underneath starts going green too. Apparently it's the pH of my skin. Go figure. -
I have something similar, but not as intense. by
on 2008-10-17 23:21:00 UTC
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Most of my jewelery (and I don't have much) is sterling silver or steel, and I tend to turn it all red - oxidisation, I guess. It takes a few weeks, months if I'm lucky, but the inside of my watch is all red, and all the chains of my necklaces wear away to red eventually, too.
*ponders* So what would we call the Marvelverse Trojie? You need to have a superhero name, you know. ;p
Freaky about the ring size, but then again, from that picture of yourself you posted a while ago, I'd say we have pretty similar builds anyway, so it's not too surprising. Still amusing, though. Someday I'll send my non-existant fiance-to-be uo north to trade ring tips with Your Boy. Should be delightful. ;p
White gold... I don't think I've ever actually handled the stuff, so I can't say if I like it. Frankly, I'd be happy with steel, or anything else that will last, but that's not too romantic sounding. -
Just call me ... by
on 2008-10-18 07:04:00 UTC
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Rusty!
Either that or Oxide :P
I look forward to seeing boys trading jewellery tips.
White gold looks pretty close to silver; there's not a lot to choose between them other than it's a bit more expensive and it doesn't tarnish. So it suits me riiiiight down to the ground! -
Trojie or Oxie...hmm... nah; I like 'Trojie' better (nm) by
on 2008-10-19 09:52:00 UTC
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I remember seeing a site which sold wooden wedding rings. by
on 2008-10-18 01:22:00 UTC
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They're actually very pretty and apparently more hardwearing than you'd think: http://simplywoodrings.com/
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Sounds good to me. (nm) by
on 2008-10-14 14:47:00 UTC
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No objections here. by
on 2008-10-14 14:01:00 UTC
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But maybe with a sword on it, or 'CP', to show that the department means more business than most other Departments. Sldo good because many of the characters being protected tend to have had swords at one point or another.
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A new initiative from the Department of Intelligence. by
on 2008-10-14 14:46:00 UTC
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Greetings, Agents and Authors, from the Department of Intelligence. I am the Sub Rosa, and I would like to take a minute or two of your time.
As you know, my Department is tasked with investigating bad fanfiction and determining whether it requires the PPC's attention. You Agents may think you are overworked, but believe me, without us you wouldn't even have time to breathe between missions.
You may remember that Agent Architeuthis was kind enough to post some of her intelligence reports on the HQ network for all to read, and that they made their way from there onto the internet. Now that we have time to breathe again, we are interested in taking this idea and running with it. To that end, we have co-opted a section of your "PPC Wiki" to use as a portal for our reports.
Department of Intelligence Reports
We hope that these reports will, in combination with the List of Unclaimed Badfic, make it easier and simpler for you Authors to choose missions for your Agents, and for you Agents to understand what you're getting into.
I wish you all the best of luck in not getting killed.
~The Sub Rosa, Head, Department of Intelligence
(What the Sub Rosa didn't say is that this isn't a closed area. If you're feeling bored, and don't feel up to a full mission, why not write up a quick report? You can create an Agent specifically for the DoI, or let one of your Agents do a bit of transfer work, or if you have an Agent who wants to retire, you could transfer them into Intelligence. Hopefully these reports will be useful, as well as entertaining. They don't need to be announced on the Board, or cleared with anyone [although I think I'll have to say that you need Permission to write them, since they are actual PPC stories], and as I've tried to get across on the page in question, they don't preclude a mission being written for that story -- in fact, they're meant to help the mission-writer, or at least the mission-selecter.
And, of course, they're meant to be fun! So write them if you want to, don't if you don't... it's up to you.
hS)
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Mission Plug! by
on 2008-10-14 20:24:00 UTC
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Introducing the fourth mission of Agents Tirsaer and Ryni! Featuring the disposal of a Silmarillion!Sue. Who tries to marry Maglor.
Yeah.
On livejournal:
http://dracorn-adagio.livejournal.com/10465.html
http://dracorn-adagio.livejournal.com/10723.html
On the website:
http://www.freewebs.com/dracornadagio/missionfour.htm
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utterly OT, but... by
on 2008-10-15 21:00:00 UTC
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http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20081015
IT'S A SPORK GUN.
WANT.
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Hee! by
on 2008-10-16 03:24:00 UTC
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I saw that this morning. Pretty awesome.
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Squeeeee!!!! SPORKS!! :D (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 01:21:00 UTC
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I call dibs. (nm) by
on 2008-10-15 22:42:00 UTC
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*shifty eyes* Anyone got a RA handy? *whistles innocently* (nm) by
on 2008-10-15 22:24:00 UTC
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I'm not dead yet (plus a badfic) by
on 2008-10-16 04:43:00 UTC
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Contrary to appearances, I am not in fact dead, in jail, or on the run from giant vampire gerbils. It's just that the chaos level in my life has reached new heights of stress and strangeness, and I've been entirely too busy, so some things (like most of my active forum participation in various places) has had to slide.
My apologies if Princess of Shadowfire and the ring of doom has been linked already -- I know it's making the rounds of all the usual sporking sites, but a quick scan didn't show it here. This is the most over-the-top Mary Sue I've seen in a long time. It's just ... remarkable. There are no words. You have to see it. This Sue might need more than two Agents to take her down. A lot more.
I'm thinking of doing a major dissection of that fic over on Wandering Criticism. If there was ever a textbook example of how not to write LotR fanfic (or how not to write, period), that is it right there. -
Well, nice to hear that! by
on 2008-10-17 23:35:00 UTC
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And I saw that fic on Deleterius. Someone's already sporked it there, I think.
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Wow... by
on 2008-10-16 05:31:00 UTC
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(note: Repost from the LJ group. It's more or less an introduction)
It has been many a year since I last heard of the PPC. I don't even remember how long ago it was, honestly, but a long time indeed. Last time I checked it was really just Jay and Acacia, along with a few other brave souls. I made cause with them, but honestly I couldn't get through enough bad fanfics to actually write anything. As time went by I became distracted, and wandered away from this corner of the internet. I figured this little adventure would have eventually played it self out, leaving behind, at best, a decaying, obsolete website.
So, imagine my surprise while wandering the awesomness that is TVTropes in finding that the PCC was still around. You guys have done damn well for yourselves, and have carved out your own niche in cyberspace. In fact, from what I've seen, you're better organized and growing faster then most of the online communities I'm part of, not to mention the Real World ones. You guys should be proud of yourselves.
Anyway, enough ramblings from an old-timer (well, relatively speaking). In more relevent news, have you guys had a chance to take a stab at the new contender for the title of "World's Worst Fanfic" AKA "My Immortal?" (No, really. Google "worst fanfic" and it's the first hit). If not, it definitely needs it. Worst Sue I've ever seen, and quite possible one of the more disturbing things on the internet, and believe me, I've seen a lot.
Happy hunting!
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Hullo! by
on 2008-10-17 23:33:00 UTC
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Yeah, some people are sporking "My Immortal" right now. SealRat was one them, I believe, and whatsherface...Mad Hattie. Yeah.
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Howdy! by
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Yes, we live and thrive! And we (at least I) have an over-abundance of egg whisks, so please take one! They're shiny, gold-plated, and whisk not only eggs but spambots and author wraiths! So yes. *grin*
Welcome back to the insanity! Enjoy your stay, and watch out for stray ypurs... -
Welcome, oldbie!! by
on 2008-10-16 20:32:00 UTC
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Here is your first return handshake. *shakes hand with extreme energy*
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Oh, yeah, we're still going. by
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Welcome back. :P I've just checked, and the links I might have thrown at you have already been done (and it would be entirely egocentric to link you directly to the continuing PPC History saga, so of course I won't do that [Is shameless]), so all I can do is say hello! Welcome back! We've had our ups and downs (I've been here since autumn 2003, not long after Jay finally left, so I'd know), but this dear old Board keeps swinging back up. We're not going away for a loooong time.
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First ketchup! by
on 2008-10-16 15:07:00 UTC
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Welcome back to the insanity!
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Anti-Lustin! You'll need it. (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 12:37:00 UTC
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welcome-back lembas! by
on 2008-10-16 09:53:00 UTC
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*shoves baked goods at returning person*
It's nice to see people return. Do join in the hilarity, insanity, and indeed, sporkage! -
Have a welcome-back plover and a Mark I K-9. (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 06:45:00 UTC
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Welcome back! by
on 2008-10-16 06:15:00 UTC
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And for 'My Immortal' I point to Mad Hattie. She's taken a personal grudge it seems against that story. So, hopefully she'll be dealing with it soon enough. We were actually talking about it's 'Sequal' earlier, 'Bring Me Back to Life', with many of us gibbering and breaking out the various Bleep products.
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Sedri did my thing with the links on the LJ comm. by
on 2008-10-16 06:02:00 UTC
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So all I can do is say hi.
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Sorry to steal your fire, dear. by
on 2008-10-16 22:10:00 UTC
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At least be consoled by the fact that I didn't do it nearly so eloquantly as you would have.
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...Please tell me the pun was unintentional, at least? (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 22:39:00 UTC
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As I didn't realise it until now, yes. Very sorry. Meep. (nm) by
on 2008-10-17 23:13:00 UTC
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I totally have to steal that pun now. (nm) by
on 2008-10-19 12:07:00 UTC
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She may kill you. Just thought you'd like to know :p (nm) by
on 2008-10-20 01:27:00 UTC
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Sedri's right. You use that, a firey death is your future. (nm) by
on 2008-10-20 06:54:00 UTC
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Totally worth it. (nm) by
on 2008-10-21 04:00:00 UTC
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*cringes in apology* I honestly didn't click on the pun (nm) by
on 2008-10-21 01:49:00 UTC
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Nice to see you again! by
on 2008-10-16 05:35:00 UTC
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I already said hello on LJ, so I won't bother repeating all that. Nice to see you!
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Ello... ya new person post by
on 2008-10-16 06:54:00 UTC
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Yup. New. Came into knowledge of the PPC when a friend kept talking about conversations between a Sith and a Cardassian. Needless to say I was curious and have been hovering around the PPC wiki for a while now reading up when possible. Still at it too.
But what drove me to make this post and make myself known and support the PPC? I read a certain Stufic known as Halo: Halos in Space and after my eyes stoped bleeding I swore to myself I that I couldn't just stand by while people butcher my favorite subjects and the English language I love so much.
So here I am, casting my die in to kill the Badfic and send those who write them scampering back to their 6th grade English classes. -
First Fox by
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welcome ot the ppc. sorry i can;t say more, but brain tired.
So, what fandoms?
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*from other post* Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate SG-1/Atlantis, Halo, Fable (beat that game 300 times i should know it), Marvel (to an extent), DC (To the same Extent), LotR (but not as much as most people o.O), DB/Z/GT (yes... is sad... but its been along time i've forgotten things!) Bleach, Code Geass, Gundam (Seed, Wing, Mobile Fighter G, and Mobile Suit mostly). lets see others i can think of. Red Faction, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, some final fantasy, but I'm certainly not a fanboy. Quake and Doom, Tribes (a tad), thats about it i think.
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Glad to have you onboard! by
on 2008-10-17 23:45:00 UTC
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Here, have a Shadow Spork. They're really sharp and they appear when places get underdefined. Really underdefined.
Soooooo...nice to have you onboard for the ride. It's going to be an insane, bumpy one. Hold on to yer Bleeprin. -
Re: Glad to have you onboard! by
on 2008-10-17 23:56:00 UTC
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Insanity is quite normal for me. I live by the saying "No one is sane lest they know when to be insane at proper times."
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Yo! by
on 2008-10-17 22:24:00 UTC
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Have a ypur. 'S a yak, but it's slightly smaller and has huge spiky horns. Oh, and it's blue. :D
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Uhh... by
on 2008-10-17 22:26:00 UTC
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Sounds like having the thing run up to you would be a tad painful...
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Heya! by
on 2008-10-17 03:31:00 UTC
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I gift you with...an egg whisk! It's shiny, gold-plated, and whisks not only eggs, but spambots and author wraiths! Use it for good and not evil. Oh, and I'll throw in a bar of good Belgian chocolate. Just because. *grin*
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I think i'm gonna need a TARDIS to keep all these things O.O
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*grin* Luckily, this is the PPC! by
on 2008-10-17 03:39:00 UTC
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TARDISes have become pretty standard equipment, so you're in luck! That is, of course, if you knock down the Fourth Wall and do a tribal war dance on it while painted blue. *nodnod*
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Re: *grin* Luckily, this is the PPC! by
on 2008-10-17 03:42:00 UTC
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*amusedly sees a 'realistic adaptation' of that* Heh... Bolians in loincloths with sledgehammers demolishing a house... Good thing i know what the fourth wall is though.
Do i really have to do it I'm out of war paint and my Fourth Wall breaking skill came up a 2 when i rolled the D20. -
That's why we have the warning sign: by
on 2008-10-17 08:54:00 UTC
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'In case of rolling a 2, please find the PPC Orchestra.' They've broken enough walls, and that's even before they've touched their instruments.
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Sigh... by
on 2008-10-17 08:57:00 UTC
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Do i have too? Can't I just pay someone exuberant amounts of money?
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Again, I point to the PPC Orchestra! (nm) by
on 2008-10-17 15:10:00 UTC
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*blinks* by
on 2008-10-18 02:47:00 UTC
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We have an orchestra? *looks interested*
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Apparently, though I've seen few performances by
on 2008-10-20 01:22:00 UTC
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Probably because the agents are too worn out or on missions too often to practice together.
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I may in fact be partially responsible... by
on 2008-10-17 02:09:00 UTC
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...if this friend of yours is known about the internets as Rilwen Shadowflame.
Her Agent is Sith.
Mine's Cardassian.
We were roleplaying over MSN Messenger. It became quite deranged at times.
This may or may not be the cause. If it is, well... *tips her Hat* Hello there. ;)
But ah, you have initiative. Well and good. I give you chocolate, a Tribble, and a large amount of assorted Bleep-products. -
Re: I may in fact be partially responsible... by
on 2008-10-17 02:18:00 UTC
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- Yes, i recongnize the name, infact i was bored and made her a "Nobody Expects the Zeltron Inquisition" avatar since your comment suggested it on her Live Journal. So yes your responsible for me, I expect Dependent Payments starting next month :p
2. Yay Chocolate!
3. YAAAAAAY! Tribble!
- Yes, i recongnize the name, infact i was bored and made her a "Nobody Expects the Zeltron Inquisition" avatar since your comment suggested it on her Live Journal. So yes your responsible for me, I expect Dependent Payments starting next month :p
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Bugger. *digs out wallet* by
on 2008-10-17 02:59:00 UTC
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I want to see this avatar. xD
I'm tous-les-mondes-possibles@hotmail.com if you ever want to talk on MSN, by the by.
Don't feed the tribble too much, now. That's the last thing HQ needs at the moment.
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on 2008-10-17 03:05:00 UTC
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Yupper does. Trek fan... my listing of how i like my series/movies is somewhere in a reply but as for characters... varies from series to series.
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Welcome! Have a purple orange! by
on 2008-10-16 22:09:00 UTC
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Don't eat it, though; might be sentient. Like tribbles.
Welcome! I see the others have already given you most of what you need to know, so I'll just wave my little "Join the DMS!" flag, offer a purely-plaontic-but-nonetheless-freaky hug, direct you to the Fountain of Bleepka and scuttle off.
Also, 'tis great to see another Star Trek fan! Which of the series do you like? Personally, I can't stand the original Kirk series or the newest Enterprise one, but I love TNG, DS9 and Voyager. You? -
In order... by
on 2008-10-16 22:25:00 UTC
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DS9, Voyager, TNG, The TNG Movies, TOS Movies, Enterprise, TOS. Yes, i know its odd, but the movies about the original crew seem better than the show. Maybe because they weren't using crappy props anymore? Enterprise is higher than TOS cause its pretty... messes with the Canon I think though. I 'like' it about as much as I 'like' The Force Unleashed being Canon -_- but hey, its Lucas' world he wants to muck that up he can. The Original Series though was just... well... at the time i can assume it was cool but now it just seems silly... [sing] Bounce the forward particle beam of the main deflector dish. Thats the way We do things men, we make up things as we wish...[/sing]
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*barging in again* by
on 2008-10-17 02:11:00 UTC
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SWEET ZOMBIFIED Q ONNA WAFFLE CONE, someone else who knows "The USS Make Shit Up!"
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*wants to earn chocolate* I don't know what that is... by
on 2008-10-17 23:12:00 UTC
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But I want to! *looks pitiful with Big Puss-In-Boots Eyes*
I could never watch TOS; there were two episodes in the special features of the Voyager DVDs, and I watched them once, in part laughing hysterically, in part shaking my head in pain. Never saw the movies, and don't plan to.
The TNG movies... are okay. I like the series better. I HATED Nemesis. And I hate that TOS and TNG have multiple movies while DS9 and Voygaer haven't had ANY. But that's an old complaint and I'll shut up now... -
'Tis... by
on 2008-10-18 21:17:00 UTC
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...an extremely hilarious (though mildly inappropriate) song by a most wonderful artist by the name of Voltaire.
Though not to be confused with the witty dead Frenchman of similar title, he is equally awesome. I've seen him perform live twice to date. ^_^
Anyway, I can probably send you the song if you've got MSN Messenger or AIM- file transfers and all that, if you can take mp3 or mp4 files. Or you could look it up on YouTube.
Suffice to say it's based on Trek's tendency to get out of certain doom with large amounts of technical jargon that somehow explain everything. (Geordi's quite good at it.) With added pokes to all the series, but it's quite funny.
TNG is probably my favorite series, though DS9 and Voyager are cool. I could go on and on, but shall cease taking up space.
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Oo, I want to hear that! by
on 2008-10-19 00:01:00 UTC
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I've added you on MSN - I'm fanwriter_sedri@hotmail.com. mp3 is fine, though you might just want to do it by emiail, as I'm not sure we'll ever be online at the same time - time zones and all that.
Do you know there are a few books out that try to rationalise the science of Star Trek? They're not bad; it's fun to try and make logic out of fantasy. For instance, Vulcans and Romulans have green blood, right? Well, the book rationalises that since ou blood is red due to the iron oxidising, then Vulcans must have copper-based blood, since copper turns green when in contact with oxygen.
Of course, that completely kills the logic of an early TNG episode (can't remember the name) in which a Romulan's life can only be saved if Worf agrees to donate some bit of biology, because a body that depends on copper-based blood would probably have a hell of a lot more problems trying to work with something used to iron-based blood, but that's just babble.
I like Geordi's tech babble, though. And B'Elanna's. The song sounds like fun - I look forward to it!
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^_^ by
on 2008-10-19 18:00:00 UTC
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I've read one of those books- the title was "Life Signs: The Biology Of Star Trek." I found it on my school library shelf and my inner nerd started turning somersaults of sheer glee.
Writers do have a tendency to slip up. For instance, they implied that Voyager's EMH could reproduce. The lines weren't integral to the plot in any way, but:
The Doctor has learned to experience emotion and is technically solid, thus enabling him to pursue the... attendant pursuits of some emotions, but how on earth could a hologram have gametes or other forms of viable genetic information? And even if they could, why? (On second thought... I don't particularly want the "why" bit answered.)
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Got the email - cheers! by
on 2008-10-20 01:25:00 UTC
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I read the biology one once, but before that I bought and devoured "The Physics of Star Trek", which was somewhat more interesting.
The Doc... as a father. No. We saw what happened when he created a holographic family - that was enough. Then again, he's grown up since then.
If you want to be technical, though, he could use Lewis Zimmerman's DNA - provided Lewis lets him - as they are identical in appearance, at least. Going into the differences would start long discussions on consciousness, experience and souls, which is too much for me at the moment - I'm hungry. ;) -
Re: *barging in again* by
on 2008-10-17 02:19:00 UTC
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Why yes, yes you can offer me more chocolate. Chocolate is like fire, one can never have enough of it.
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Holy Macakaral... by
on 2008-10-16 20:39:00 UTC
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I'm no longer the newest newbie!! Welcome to the Nuthouse; be mindful of all the pyromania, magic, and just plain madness. It wouldn't be good to have an agent fall into a wormhole on their first day. :D
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Well, we don't have many wormholes plotting around... by
on 2008-10-16 21:20:00 UTC
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We do have a fair few plotholes though. They're fun. Mostly used for transportation and pulling random things, or Agents, from.
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Re: Holy Macakaral... by
on 2008-10-16 20:50:00 UTC
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There are wormholes in the PPC O.o Know anywhere where i can find something that monitors subspace? I wanna be prepared...
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Welcome! by
on 2008-10-16 20:10:00 UTC
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Welcome to the place where reality and sanity hold no sway. Welcome to the place where "laws of nature" are a funny joke you tell your friends. Welcome to where badfic dies. Welcome... to the PPC. The Division of More Dakka issues you a refractor field, suitable defense against any attacks your chosen fandoms may unleash against you.
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Re: Welcome! by
on 2008-10-16 20:25:00 UTC
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Sweet! How strong is it exactly? :3
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In theory... by
on 2008-10-17 00:45:00 UTC
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It can deflect any attack-depends on how good your die roll is. :D Failing that, the Division of More Dakka will issue you ordnance, if you are a more proactive problem solver.
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Re: In theory... by
on 2008-10-17 00:51:00 UTC
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Got anything that fires 12.7x40mm Semi-Armor-Piercing High-Explosive rounds? Like the M6D? If so I'll take one, gift wrapped with spare ammo please. Oh, and Can I use Incendiary Grenades? Fire solves everything. *bats eyes*
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Oh, hell yes... by
on 2008-10-17 00:58:00 UTC
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Young man/lady/unidentified being, you have come to the right place, as you definitely appear to appreciate more dakka. The Division hereby issues you a bolter, optimized for use by unaugmented humans. The bolter is similar in concept to the weapon you specified with two main differences-its rounds are about twice the size you requested, and the bolter is capable of single shot, burst, and fully automatic firing modes.
In place of your request for incendiary grenades, the Division of More Dakka also issues you sufficient magazines of Inferno-pattern incendiary bolter shells. -
Re: Oh, hell yes... by
on 2008-10-17 01:13:00 UTC
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Wow, and my Birthday isn't even for 6 more days! Though admittedly I prefer semi auto weapons. If I can't kill it without turning it into swish cheese, I shouldn't be shooting at it... or its a wall. *tries to imagine something twice the size of a 50 caliber round*
... *drools*
anyway... tell me more of this Division of More Dakka. I don't recall seeing anything about it on the wiki, I know what 'More Dakka' is *amusingly remembers that image of the Orc with several machine guns and ammo belts* But it either doesn't have a page on the wiki or my eyes were still bleeding from that Halo fic... or it 'doesn't exist' ;) -
Doesn't exist yet by
on 2008-10-17 02:15:00 UTC
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But it will at some point, with the veterans' blessing-it is the tentative name for the Warhammer 40,000 badfic department. The picture at Tvtropes with the Ork machine guns is from WH40k.
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Re: Doesn't exist yet by
on 2008-10-17 02:22:00 UTC
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Ah 40K. I personally know little about it but the Imperial and Chaos ships look exceedingly pimptastic. There's just something about the concept of a Giant Flying Space Cathedral that I find alluring... Especially with guns.
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A few hints.... by
on 2008-10-17 04:48:00 UTC
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From Tvtropes, which you're obviously familiar with:
Power Fist: trope namer.
Death World: trope namer.
More Dakka: trope namer.
Drop the Hammer: partial trope namer.
Almost every other trope: taken up to an eleven, painted black, covered in skulls, and armed with a chainsword.
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Re: A few hints.... by
on 2008-10-17 04:59:00 UTC
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*blinks at the More Dakka Trope* well... damn...
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First plover! by
on 2008-10-16 16:36:00 UTC
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Will your Agents be based in a TARDIS or a Response Center?
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Re: First plover! by
on 2008-10-16 18:42:00 UTC
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While the idea of a TARDIS sounds utterly awesome. I wouldn't mind at all having just a Response Center *ponders* RC or a a TARDIS... TARDIS has more room and I foresee souvenirs... lots of them.
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First ketchup! by
on 2008-10-16 15:08:00 UTC
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Welcome! I give you...a coxcomb. It's a funny sort of hat.
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Hat? by
on 2008-10-16 18:46:00 UTC
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Like the one Jayne wore in Firefly? If so Awesome, if not, I'll put it somewhere >.>
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Not the exact same sort... by
on 2008-10-16 21:27:00 UTC
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But just as silly-looking.
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Re: Not the exact same sort... by
on 2008-10-16 21:29:00 UTC
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Aww i always wanted Jayne's hat of pimposcity... or was it Jayne's hat of Awesome? I forget.
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Ah-ha *grins* Another new person to terrorize... by
on 2008-10-16 13:35:00 UTC
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..I mean welcome! I said welcome!
*gives you a radioactive iguana, a ferret cosy, and a box of eye-shaped chocolates*
Have fun~
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on 2008-10-16 22:03:00 UTC
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on 2008-10-16 19:20:00 UTC
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Re: Ah-ha *grins* Another new person to terrorize... by
on 2008-10-16 18:50:00 UTC
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What am i gonna do with a Radioactive Iguana? Feed Sues to it?
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Pfft, no! by
on 2008-10-16 21:18:00 UTC
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You feed Suethors to it! And the occasional dose of plutonium, uranium and kryptonite!
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Damn it *catches stray italic tag* (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 13:36:00 UTC
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on 2008-10-16 13:37:00 UTC
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Anti-Lustin! You'll need it! (nm) by
on 2008-10-16 12:19:00 UTC
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Re: Anti-Lustin! You'll need it! by
on 2008-10-16 18:52:00 UTC
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I will? :p
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Of couse you will! (nm) by
on 2008-10-18 12:15:00 UTC
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Re: Of couse you will! by
on 2008-10-18 18:17:00 UTC
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I'll be sure to carry some with me at all times then.
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*gives compulsory plate of lembas* by
on 2008-10-16 09:51:00 UTC
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Hello new person, have some lembas :)
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Re: *gives compulsory plate of lembas* by
on 2008-10-16 18:54:00 UTC
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Sweet I've always wanted to try some ^^ one thing off me list of things to do.
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New faces are good. by
on 2008-10-16 08:27:00 UTC
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...'cept for the fact it's, y'know, the Internet. Therefore, no faces unless you're doing something fancy like Skype. :P
Eyes bleeding, really? That's a new reaction. I don't think I've ever had that one in response to badfic. Sure, I've had the urge to gouge my eyes out with a spork, but...
So, and forgive me if someone else asked this question, what fandoms are you most familiar with?
(Be warned: if you like some of the more obscure ones that I like, you will earn yourself a slightly deranged/hyperactive stalker. =3)
Oh yeah, and have a pointe shoe. : ) Good for causing minor concussions. Maybe moderate. :O
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hmm by
on 2008-10-16 09:16:00 UTC
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Fandoms... Fandoms... Less see here.
Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate SG-1/Atlantis, Halo, Fable (beat that game 300 times i should know it), Marvel (to an extent), DC (To the same Extent), LotR (but not as much as most people o.O), DB/Z/GT (yes... is sad... but its been along time i've forgoten things!) Bleach, Code Geass, Gundam (Seed, Wing, Mobile Fighter G, and Mobile Suit mostly). There are others I'm possitive but its 4:15 and I want to sleep *snores* -
Welcome! by
on 2008-10-16 07:16:00 UTC
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I gift you with your first load of Bleepolate! And also this bag of marbles that may or may not belong to someone here!
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Thankye! by
on 2008-10-16 07:24:00 UTC
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Thanks ^^ I could have used that Bleepolate when i stumbled into that Halo Badfic but better late than never. As for the Marbles. Sweet, I had lost my marbles... and I can use some of those big enough for new eyes since mine are now permanently damaged!
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*rabies present* by
on 2008-10-16 07:05:00 UTC
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You don't get shiny links since I know you're Rilwen's and have already got the shiny links.
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Indeed by
on 2008-10-16 07:27:00 UTC
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Yup. Rilwen's the one who helped me come into knowledge of this place.
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OT: Need help with Weapons. by
on 2008-10-16 07:23:00 UTC
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Yes, I'm questioning the sanity of asking the PPC about shiny weapons, but hey, it's all good fun!
The dilemma is this: In one of my stories, certain, signature characters are represented by each having a weapon that's unique from the other. I have 17 different 'Weapons' so far, I just need one more, and I'm tapped out. Each of these people also represent a personality trait, and the person left WITHOUT a weapon has the trait of 'Charity'. Now, what kind if weapon could she have?
The ones I've used so far:
Sword (Courage)
Staff (Friendship)
Gloves (Love)
Symbols and Gestures (Power)
Book (Knowledge)
Martial Arts (Determination)
Bow and Arrows (Sincerity)
Guns (Kindness)
Shields (Hope)
Spiked Knuckle Dusters (Trust)
Wand (Faith)
Medallion (Justice)
Dagger (Independence)
Chains (Integrity)
Axe (Responsibility)
Boomerang (Virtue)
That's my list of weapons. I was thinking Nun-Chuks, but they really don't fit in with the above list, or the trait of Charity. I'm just out of ideas when it comes to weapons... I'm also staying away from weapons that are similar to one another, like Spears to Staffs, or Broadswords to Longswords.
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How about a flail? by
on 2008-10-16 12:23:00 UTC
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Heavy object on a short chain attached to a handle. You can use as many chains and whatever manner of heavy objects you like (mace heads, thick sticks, hooks, whatever).
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Oh, I second the flail! by
on 2008-10-16 22:02:00 UTC
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'fraid I can't help with the rest, though it's delightful (and a little creepy) to see how enthusastic everyone here is about deadly weapons. Oh, how I love the PPC...
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Some options by
on 2008-10-16 11:55:00 UTC
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Warhammer (one-handed or two-handed)
Chainsaw
Chainsword
Flamethrower
Power Fist
Knives
Cat 'O Nine Tails
Lightning Claws
Spear
Halberd
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Yay weapons. by
on 2008-10-16 08:44:00 UTC
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Well, it really depends on how serious you are about classifying it as a weapon. I mean, Genis Sage (Tales of Symphonia) smacks things with a kendama for cryin' out loud.
This may help you, if you haven't found it already.
Might some sort of whip work? I'm partial to the nagyka, myself, though apparently it's been perceived as a symbol of oppression. ^^;; The tough part is finding something you've not already used that vaguely suits charity.
Dynamite? ^^;; I've been on a bit of a Katekyo Hitman Reborn! kick recently, which might explain that addition. Is a trident too close to a spear/staff, I wonder?
Here's a thought - maybe the Charity person could convince the animals in the nearby area to fight for her?
!! Oh hey! Ahaha! What about a war fan of some sort? Here's the wikipedia article.
What else... Chakram(s), club...
'nother brilliant idea: a sickle or a scythe, since those are traditionally associated with the harvest. Harvest = plenty = more than enough to share?
The last thought I have to offer you is that the staff (Friendship) is most often (at least in RPGs :P) given to the white mage, the one who heals the party even at the cost of his or her own life. Personally, I call that extreme charity. :D And Friendship could easily be symbolized by a twinned weapon - i.e. dual chakrams, maybe? See Axel (KH2) and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) for further reference - I didn't realize it before, but both of them did this whole self-sacrifice thing for their friends.
Well, that's that - I'm sorry if I've overloaded your brain, but you happened to ask about one of the topics I'm quite passionate about.
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Now this is cool! by
on 2008-10-16 09:32:00 UTC
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When it comes to the whips, the Chains will be very similar in use. I'm wanting a weapon, as opposed to calling nearby animals, because there's no always animals in the story, unfortunately. The War Fan is a good option though. I could use that.
Now, as for the Staff. The person using it takes the role of the Summoner, just think Final Fantasy. The role of the Healer falls to a mixture of whoever has the Gloves or the Book, and which is nearer.
And you might have fun with this story. The person actually recieving this weapon is Aerith, from Final Fantasy VII. The weapon also gives her power over metal, so this should be fun.
I did also consider Chakrams. They're on my list of potentials.
And thanks so much for this list. Makes it a lot easier to decide.
Oh, and I'm always willing to give out the URL to my stories. Keep in mind that it's an epic crossover, which has tons of Universes in it. Hopefully you can keep track though!
Worlds Apart
When Sora sealed Kingdom Hearts, he didn't realise that was the first assault of the Heartless... Now, a year later, the Heartless have prepared their ultimate assault, and this time only the power of the Crests can stand a chance of beating them forever.
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Hmm... by
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The white mage I was thinking of at the time was Yuna, actually. :P Summoner, yes; but 'white' spells practically coming out her ears and a ginormous magic stat.
And thanks for the link - I'll be sure to read through it. After sleep, though. =D Glad I could be of help. -
How odd... by
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She's in this story too. Using the Guns, I might add. She was always good for the White spells. I'd have died several times over if not for her.
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Some ideas... by
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Some sort of pole arm, say, a naginata? They're similar to staffs, but used differently enough that there's difference there.
Flamethrowers? (that warm fuzzy feeling...)
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I was contemplating a naginata.. by
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But I eventually came to the conclusion that they were too similar for me. Flamethrowers won't really fit in with the concept of Charity, unless it's for DoGA.
A Warhammer though, that's a potential. *Hurries off to write it down* Thanks Techno-Dann!
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Susan what? by
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Susan's Secret » reviews
When Susan discovers Peter is adopted she is rather upset but when she gets a "fishy" secret of her own, she starts to understand why even people who love each other have secrets. Cross over with tv show H2o just add water. Peter/Susan
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My eyebrows have officially disappeared into my hairline. by
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*tries to claw them back down*
Actually, I think they're hiding due to the WTF-ness of this 'fic. Burn with extreme prejudice, please, so that I can have my eyebrows back. -
Honestly by
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Sue-Authors know so many ways to break the laws of physics, one is probably going to win the Nobel Prize someday...
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Mmmph. How true. Perhaps we should make an awards system. by
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You know, for the most ridiculous break in the laws of physics. We could hand out an 'Lebon' prize... actually, that's not a good name (despite being 'Nobel' in reverse), but you get my drift.
... Of course, we'll probably have a catfight between agents who are sure that the sue THEY had to suffer through was the worse. Ah, well. -
Wait, what? by
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That...
Just doesn't work.
H20 is modern day, mermaids, AND SET IN AUSTRALIA, which is kinda far away from wartime England.
Yeah.
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Crashing Down PLUG. by
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Crashing Down: Chapter 15 -- He Asked You To Believe
In which opponents clash, reunions take place, and it is conclusively proven that ancient mythology >> Star Wars.
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Whoo! by
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Aw, the SO's so vulnerable...you characterize him very well. I always enjoy your scenes with the Flowers.
Yet another amazing installment. I remain utterly in awe of you, hS.
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Two questions by
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- How long does morning sickness last?
2. Should Tawaki and Dustin catch the Stu when he lands or should Dustin intercept him in the air?
- How long does morning sickness last?
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Punji sticks! (nm) by
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Re: Two questions by
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So far as I know, morning sickness generally ends after the second trimester or earlier, and can be cured with the moderate application of Guinness. Or so my sister found, anyway. I shall be enquiring over the course of the next few months to see if Guinness has a similar curative power in pregnancy number two.
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As to the first by
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In extreme cases it can last throughout the pregnancy, but generally it ceases sometime during the second trimester. Some women don't suffer from it at all.
What I'm getting at, I think, is that 'it can last as long as you need it to last for the sake of the story'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_sickness has useful info :)
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What else can be expected? by
on 2008-10-17 06:47:00 UTC
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This is in the second month; the mission follows right off of Skopos.
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In the second month of a pregnancy by
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You're not likely to really even be showing a bump, and the prospect of a spontaneous miscarriage is still high-ish, so don't let your pregnant Agent fall over or run around too much. She needs to watch her food intake and all her meat needs to be very well cooked. She should be taking folate supplements.
Other than that, she can do almost everything a not-up-the-duff woman can; pregnancy only really seems to slow you down in the third trimester, unless morning sickness is really bad or there are other complications, but that sort of thing isn't too common.
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Almost everything a not-up-the-duff woman can, yes. But no hot baths, and no pate or anything else with liver in. I've a suspicion soft cheese is meant to be off the menu too. Any sort of forgetfulness, clumsiness, grumpiness, insanity etc can all be attributed to the baby. Whether they're anything to do with the pregnancy or not.
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I hope that my future wife... by
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will never pull the get out of jail free card on me. But, being the sucker that I am, she will, and she will get whatever she wants. Sometimes it isn:t great being a guy. We get blamed for things that we didn:t do (ok, didn:t MEAN to do), for talking to loud (even if we are only whispering) and just being there sometimes (or not, depening on her mood, you never know!!!!)
Ah, the joys of pregnancy! This just reminded me of a line in the last episode of "Firefly," and sertainly not something that I follow (cause I know that the female is the stronger of the speacies, I couldn:t imagine carring a baby.) "The male is the stronger of the species, but only woman can bring in a life, is that right?" -- bounty hunter.
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Aww... by
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*hugs Leto* I envy your future wife. And I agree with you - I feel bad for all you guys who get blamed for things that you are in no way responsible for just because we're all hormonal and need to throw things. Poor you. Feel free to save this comment to post to my future husband for when I'm pregnant, because I'll deserve to have these words shoved down my throat.
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...re-reading that... by
on 2008-10-23 09:40:00 UTC
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I sounded very mushy. Erp. I suppose it's a side-effect of being sick.
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No hot baths? Never heard that one. by
on 2008-10-18 23:53:00 UTC
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Why not?
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I think the theory is by
on 2008-10-19 01:21:00 UTC
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that any hot water that makes it, er, back up the plumbing, as it were, might boil the sprog, or at least flush it out from the uterine lining.
I suppose also the act of sitting in a hot bath might raise your internal temperature enough to boil the sprog that way too... -
The theory sounded like urban legend... by
on 2008-10-21 14:18:00 UTC
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... so I checked some reliable source.
I mean, seriously, boil the sprog or flush it out? Water don't reach up that far and if it did cold water baths would be a problem too.
According to babycentre.co.uk (which looked professional enough to not declare urban legend as fact) hot baths can lower your blood presure. Which can lead to less blood going through the placenta. Which means the sprog gets less oxygen and nutrition and that is bad for sprog's development.Sprog's boiling temperature is likely the same as mother's internal organs. If she never before ended up with cooked insides, why would sprog get cooked from a hot bath? -
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on 2008-10-21 20:57:00 UTC
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... that'll teach me to hypothesise wildly.
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Well, it's not completely wild by
on 2008-10-22 05:26:00 UTC
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After all, it's plausible that embryos would be much more sensitive to overheating than a fully-grown mother - still, this makes more sense.
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That was what jumped to mind, but... really by
on 2008-10-19 09:50:00 UTC
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If I had back pains all the time I'd want hot water treatments just to soothe it - scratch that; I DO want hot water all the time when I have back pains.
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I think the back pain... by
on 2008-10-19 21:26:00 UTC
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... probably waits until you've got a baby-bump, by which time hot water bottles are probably okay :)
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Re: That was what jumped to mind, but... really by
on 2008-10-19 12:42:00 UTC
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You can have warm ones, and they might soothe your back pains. But really hot ones are out. My sister was complaining about such when I was visiting her a few weeks ago, and was having the hottest baths possible while she still could. The fact that she was unknowingly up the duff then and still is now suggests the hot baths won't automatically do away with the sprog.
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Fair enough by
on 2008-10-20 01:21:00 UTC
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I'll file that away under "Things I Hope To Someday Need To Know" ;) Cheers.
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Pads is right, actually by
on 2008-10-18 23:04:00 UTC
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anything with fungal or microbial leanings is probably a bad idea, so yoghurt, soft cheeses, pate ...
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on 2008-10-19 12:44:00 UTC
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With pate it's the fact it's made from liver that marks it as off-limits. Too much vitamin A is bad for baby.
Was in the pub with a friend the other day, asked for a couple of vodkas complete with mixers and ice. The pregnant barmaid managed to totally forget whether she'd put vodka in mine, and chucked a couple of extra shots in just to make sure. She blamed it on the being pregnant. I didn't care because it was free vodka. -
Now, how long does an individual spell of it usually last? (nm) by
on 2008-10-19 01:14:00 UTC
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of morning sickness? by
on 2008-10-19 01:16:00 UTC
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Can be only a few hours (generally in the morning), but can last pretty much all day. It's highly individual.
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Mostly the morning sickness... by
on 2008-10-17 09:09:00 UTC
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This doesn't stop at actual nausea though. We're also speaking headaches, cravings, and the ever popular hormonal shifts. I'd listen to Trojan Horse over me though. I'm speaking from experiences with my mother.
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My fellowmen's stupidity never ceases to annoy me... by
on 2008-10-19 11:47:00 UTC
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SciFiGhetto
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyThink?from=Main.OlderThanYouThink
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Damn you, TVTropes! by
on 2008-10-20 01:40:00 UTC
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I can waste hours on that site without noticing!
(Though I was recently led to two very good bands by it; I looked up Nick Cave and Creature Feature, which I saw when I was entering Molly Rath's name on the "Enfante Terrible" page's WebOriginal subheading.) -
Really? That's good. by
on 2008-10-20 11:58:00 UTC
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I mean, there are many good articles on the website, but don't you think they make their accounts of other people's stupidity too detailed?
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to be honest, I find it entertaining (nm) by
on 2008-10-21 00:03:00 UTC
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I agree with Trojanhorse (nm) by
on 2008-10-22 04:20:00 UTC
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If you can't beat em, join em! (nm) by
on 2008-10-26 11:05:00 UTC
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Does anyone know how to contact Neopets mods directly? by
on 2008-10-19 14:08:00 UTC
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Some idiot has signed me up for two hundred unwanted Neopets accounts and is using obscene language on them. Something's wrong with the login so I can't log into them and delete them, the Help FAQs won't let you read them unless you're logged in, and the email forms with which you're supposed to ask for help don't cover this situation.
This has happened before so I want to actually get the police involved now. Does anyone know where I can report it? -
Stop being such a lulzcow. (nm) by
on 2008-10-24 11:09:00 UTC
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*Slaps down with the fly swatter* by
on 2008-10-25 02:26:00 UTC
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Did I get 'him? Did I get 'im? No? Drat. Someone fetch my trollspray!
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Re: *Slaps down with the fly swatter* by
on 2008-10-25 23:04:00 UTC
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A lulzcow is someone considered excellent entertainment by the nameless hordes of the internet.
The best thing when being attacked like this is to hide and cut your losses. Doing anything otherwise might lead to this happening:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Poeticirony(NSFW just for the pictures)
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Goddessmine (also NSFW)
Learn from their failings. Because if you don't, this little internet feud might become lulzy enough to spillover into real life. Look up the Subeta raids, and what happens when people take trolls like goatse boy and sovietbarney too seriously. They get trolled harder, and worse.
Don't be another entry on ED, let the wave wash over you and stand up when it passes. See ya,
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Your behaviour is also dubiously legal. by
on 2008-10-25 23:29:00 UTC
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If you do not cease and desist this behaviour, I will report it to your service provider. If any "trolling" attempts occur, I will go to the police immediately.
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Oi, cut it out. Please. by
on 2008-10-26 06:07:00 UTC
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Laburnum, I'm glad you're feeling confident in the whole 'oh look I can get actual help from the authorities for this!' but we really don't need to let this get out of control.
And Fichunter, maybe the PPC isn't the best environment for you on the net. There's obviously a large personality clash here going on which ain't being helped by your total disregard for the Rules of the Board and your total lack of respect for others here. This isn't 4han, so stop treating it like every rule of the internet applies here. Like I said, if you can't go along with the rules of the game here, GTFO.
Stick to /b/ and /v/ maybe, since anon definitely goes better with your personality type.
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You're right. I really am sorry for being bitchy. by
on 2008-10-26 11:16:00 UTC
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Will try to make sure I don't do that again. Sometimes my mouth (or keyboard) runs away with me.
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Just stop replying, everyone. We're all having a hard time. (nm) by
on 2008-10-26 22:17:00 UTC
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According to the Urban Dictionary... by
on 2008-10-25 03:09:00 UTC
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(the reliability of which I know nothing about - I googled)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lulzcow
lulzcow
An ass clown. Someone who provides many lulz from their own ridiculousness.
Bill: Did you go to that link I sent you the other day?
Ted: Yeah, that guy was a lulzcow.
To follow the linked references...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lulz
lulz
Beginning as a plural variant of lol, Lulz was originally an exclamation but is now often used as a noun meaning interesting or funny internet content.
Lol -> lul; lols -> luls; lolz -> lulz.
Lulz is the one good reason to do anything, from trolling to rape. After every action taken, you must make the epilogic dubious disclaimer: "I did it for the lulz".
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass%20clown
Ass clown
(ás kloun) n.:
one, who, through the fault of his parents conception, is a skid mark in society's collective underwear.
And from Encylopedia Dramatica...
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Lol-cow
A lol-cow is a victim of a Flame War who can't help but be milked for lulz time and time again. They have a compulsive need to give up as many laughs as possible at their own expense despite themselves.
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The last description essentially just described Fichunter (nm) by
on 2008-10-25 09:12:00 UTC
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All of them would describe him if not ... by
on 2008-10-25 11:38:00 UTC
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... for the fact that they suggest the subject has to be funny. I used to think he was basically a decent guy who was just having difficulty getting used to the way we interact here. I guess now we know better, don't we?
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Cool it, please, folks. by
on 2008-10-25 16:11:00 UTC
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The fact that I'm on your side doesn't mean I won't remind you that Da Rules go both ways. He's been roundly censured. Let it go before it escalates into something really nasty.
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*cringe* Sorry. Got carried away. (nm) by
on 2008-10-25 16:32:00 UTC
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I think we all ought to back off and let tempers cool. by
on 2008-10-25 22:30:00 UTC
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That said, I hold no grudge - against either you or Fichunter.
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Agreed. by
on 2008-10-26 01:26:00 UTC
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Really, the best thing to do at this point is to stop talking about it and let this thread drop off the board.
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Yeah, bad form. by
on 2008-10-24 17:49:00 UTC
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I happen to be with July here. I'm pretty sure it's in the constitution that interpersonal tiffs will not be tolerated on this Board. Grow up or go away.
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I have to agree. This is supposed to be a pleasant place. by
on 2008-10-24 22:30:00 UTC
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We don't all have to agree, but there's no call to be rude about it, much less nasty. And that's not just a courtesy; it's in the Board Constitution - first rule, in fact.
If you have good reason for what you say, then say it, in full, without insulting anyone. Copious use of the phrases "I think" and "my opinion" would help. I cannot imagine why you don't sympathise with Laburnum on this matter, but I want to understand people, so if there's a reason, I'm willing to listen. If it's sensible.
If not, don't say anything at all. In case you haven't noticed, people around here tend to stick together; if you insist on setting yourself apart, you're not unlikely to end up with most of the Board against you, and no one wants that to happen.
Please. No one's demanding an apology or banning your opinions, but a potentially rude one-line post on a fairly sensitive subject is just a bad idea. -
I see you are still as obnoxious as ever, Fichunter (nm) by
on 2008-10-24 17:42:00 UTC
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Tell me, is it possible to ban people from the Board? by
on 2008-10-24 17:44:00 UTC
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I think he's walking a thinner and thinner line now.
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Why you looking at me? *looks vaguely panicked* by
on 2008-10-24 18:14:00 UTC
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I think Techno-Dann's the one to ask that question to.
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Just asking. Sorry to freak you out *grin* by
on 2008-10-24 18:30:00 UTC
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Will ask him when I next see him.
And BTW, Fichunter; tell your buddies that "anonymous" isn't necessarily as anonymous as you think, and that should something like the incident I was talking about happen again (or if my name shows up on Encyclopedia Dramatica or similar sites - I do not care if it's "satire", I could still make a harassment and/or libel case out of it) I will not hesitate to press charges on every person involved. "It's just for the lulz" has the same meaning as Randal Milholland's translation of "the end justifies the means": that is, I quote, "the cowards' way of saying 'I know it's wrong but I did it anyway and I don't want to face the consequences.'" -
Wait, what? by
on 2008-10-24 16:49:00 UTC
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Did you just write what I thought you did?
Why, yes, it seems you did.
What charming words!
And such acerbic wit!
Once again, speaking only for myself and no one else, and certainly in no official capacity, I highly suggest you stay off this board until you learn to respect others.
Because honestly?
Posting that was dick. Really, it was.
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Uh, hello? What he was doing is ILLEGAL. by
on 2008-10-24 11:38:00 UTC
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I have every right to be angry if someone was performing ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. Did you actually see what he was doing? Sending obscene death and rape threats to twelve-year-old children on ffnet? I think that goes a little beyond a joke.
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UPDATE: We think it's fixed! by
on 2008-10-22 21:43:00 UTC
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We alerted his service provider and they've shut down his access. Apparently they caught him doing other illegal things as well. Disappointingly, they aren't legally allowed to tell us who he is or whether they've contacted the cops, but apparently sending this kind of stuff is a federal offence so we're talking FBI here. Yay! (I shouldn't be so happy that I potentially sent someone to jail, but he was sending obscene death threats to twelve-year-old kids on ffnet, so I sincerely hope he suffers in every way that is possible within the extent of the law.) If he shows up again we can report him again, but I doubt he will.
Now that appears to be sorted, could I get in trouble if I wrote a PPC fic where my girls did something insanely unpleasant to someone very similar to this idiot? -
*cheers*I don't check this board nearly as much as I should. by
on 2008-10-26 07:28:00 UTC
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Remember to be cooperate with the authorities in any possible way you can (the more you help, the more incriminating evidence the prosecutors will have, the higher likelihood of Sir Trollalot getting thrown in the clink) and to be sure to alert the proper authorities if this ever happens again.
As for the second thing, I personally don't see a problem with it, but it might be stooping a bit to his level, mightn't it? -
Yay! *throws confetti* by
on 2008-10-23 06:31:00 UTC
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Don't feel bad about feeling happy; this guy clearly deserved it. And I agree with hS about not writing about this idiot, but that doesn't mean you can't take out your anger in some *cough* creatively violent ways on whatever Sue your agents deal with next. *big smile*
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Perhaps I'll do it as a dream sequence ... by
on 2008-10-23 12:27:00 UTC
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Then have them wake up to discover he's been arrested in the Real World? After all, Trojie did her "personal real-person grudge" thing as an AU.
Besides, can we say we wouldn't want to see this snotrag fed to the Holder of the End, even if it was only a dream? (http://theholders.org - enjoy. Appropriate for Halloween.) Trouble is the only way to get past the Holders is to give them the password and accept the Object, and I think having an agent pair stuck with an object of ultimate evil in their response centre which slowly drives them into the non-useful kind of insanity would be difficult to write around ... Maybe they could sell it on Ebay. -
I don't think so by
on 2008-10-23 22:34:00 UTC
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I mean, not that it wouldn't be fun, but no matter how you frame it, that's still about a real person, and whether a PPC mission or not, you don't want to sink that low.
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Okay. *mutters* Spoilsport. by
on 2008-10-23 23:08:00 UTC
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But yes, I see the point. Still may write one and keep it to myself, or possibly write a smug letter to him. He probably wouldn't see it even if I posted it because his net access has been cut and it's not impossible that he's going to be incarcerated fairly soon, but this guy made my life a misery in several tiny ways for years before he did this (he was the idiot who sent the Yiff In Hell spam around the Pit years ago) and I'd like to blow off steam.
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Hey, blow off steam all you like by
on 2008-10-24 01:11:00 UTC
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Just don't make it literally about him. Find a Stu with resemblances or invent an annoying agent/OFU student/something that bears a striking resemblance, but don't sink so low as to use him directly. You're better than that... and it's safer, just in case he has some really good lawyers.
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Might make a mention that he's been stopped in the OFUR ... by
on 2008-10-24 01:24:00 UTC
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But I won't have the characters actually hurt him. I just want to get the news out to the guys on the ffnet section that he's gone because he bothered them for years. And I wouldn't mind writing a particularly smug message to him on my LJ, if I can get away with that ...
Might use the Holders for a Sue, but the only way to get past them is to pass the tests to acquire the Object and I don't think objects of ultimate evil are okay to bring into HQ ... ah well. -
I still think it's a bad idea by
on 2008-10-24 02:57:00 UTC
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Any reference to him more direct than "some idiot who's been annoying me" is... well, it jsut doesn't sit well with me. Is your choice, of course.
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I'm not going to mention any of his pseudonyms, and ... by
on 2008-10-24 11:57:00 UTC
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... I don't know his real name. If I just refer to "that spammer" everyone on ffnet will know which one I mean. He's been bothering the lot of us for a couple of years.
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I wouldn't get too excited. by
on 2008-10-24 17:57:00 UTC
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You've closed him down on one front, but if he's really determined, he can come back another way. It's kinda the nature of the internet. On that note, I agree with Sedri that it's probably unwise to do anything that would give him any excuse to go after you again. Note that he's been stopped for now, let everyone feel good about that, but don't stop being cautious.
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'Kay, I guess. by
on 2008-10-24 18:51:00 UTC
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Shame.
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*hugs* Go slay some Stus to comfort yourself. (nm) by
on 2008-10-24 22:13:00 UTC
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It would be rather against the ethos of the PPC. by
on 2008-10-22 22:16:00 UTC
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Which is that we're against the creations, not the authors. I'm not saying that this person wouldn't deserve it, but the PPC is not the place to do that sort of thing.
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Okay, chief. *salute* (nm) by
on 2008-10-22 22:19:00 UTC
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UPDATE: Somehow he just flamed me again ... by
on 2008-10-22 02:31:00 UTC
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... using "abuse@neopets.com". I hope he's not a Neopets team member. Can someone with a Neopets account report this to them for me?
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He's not. by
on 2008-10-22 03:35:00 UTC
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I can't think of any exact sites off the top of my head, but there are sites you can use that will enable you to disguise your email as coming from somewhere else.
Friend of mine tells me that if you've got decent spam protection it'll filter those from popular places out, but it's obviously not the case here.
Quite frankly, it's obvious they're reading the board, which makes soliciting advice out in the open difficult, obviously. -
'Sokay. by
on 2008-10-22 11:18:00 UTC
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We're working on it elsewhere, so I'll just be quiet about it on here for now.
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UPDATE: And he's doing it AGAIN on another email address! by
on 2008-10-21 10:35:00 UTC
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I'm starting to get seriously worried that there might be more than one person involved. What do I do in that case?
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And one other thing: I insulted the spammer in OFUR. by
on 2008-10-21 16:26:00 UTC
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Kit and Minty were discussing whether they could get away with putting him in Jackverse Hell. They decided against it, they didn't intend to cause him actual physical harm even within the fictional context, and it was meant solely in a fictional context as a letting-off-steam joke. Would I still get in trouble for that if this did end up in court or something, even if his reaction of death threats is clearly overblown?
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If what I've heard about 4chan is correct... by
on 2008-10-21 18:58:00 UTC
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These people do this sort of thing because they think the internet is full of idiots and that there is entertainment to be had by jerking the idiots around. I don't know if that is true in your case, but chances are the spammer(s) didn't need much of an excuse to be asshats to begin with. I don't think you're likely to get in trouble for making a joke, but that's because it's so ridiculously hard to prove emotional distress and stuff like that. That's why it's hard to pin down people who perpetrate this kind of harassment. Their argument is, "It's text on a screen. Stop taking the internet so seriously."
My advice is to keep doing what you're doing to stop the harassment, but whatever you do, don't give them the satisfaction of seeing you freak out.
And maybe leave 4chan forever. I mean, why make it easier for people like them to mark you as a target by hanging around?
Again, this all may or may not hold true for your situation. Ultimately, you'll have to use your own judgment. It just comes from stuff I've picked up by reading.
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on 2008-10-21 23:02:00 UTC
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... we can just catch them one at a time, so no big deal.
I've never been on 4chan anyway except very briefly to read the Creepypasta and Holders Series, which I found elsewhere as well, so no problem there.
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on 2008-10-21 22:57:00 UTC
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4chan isn't that bad, as long as you avoid certain sections of it. Sure arguments can get heated and people get insulted, but it's no worse than some other areas of the internet.
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UPDATE: The ****'s now emailing me directly! by
on 2008-10-20 17:10:00 UTC
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I came home to find two hundred identical threatening emails in my inbox. I blocked them, but I'd like to actually take some kind of action against them. My father refuses to believe that we can do anything law-wise. Can I actually report this to the police, and if so should I report it to UK or US police? I don't know which side of the Atlantic the spammer is on. I now have an email address for the spammer, but it's probably just a disposable one.
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Right, I've been doing some research... by
on 2008-10-22 02:18:00 UTC
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The section of the act that you should be pursuing in the US, if you charge over there, is section 223 of title 47 in the Communications Decency Act (amended). In particular, you're looking to charge the bastard/bitch under this subparagraph -
"(a) Prohibited general purposes
Whoever-- (1) in interstate or foreign communications--
(C) makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or communication ensues, without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communications;"
(NB: subsection (h)(1)(C) of this act states(C) "in the case of subparagraph (C) of subsection (a)(1), [telecommunications device] includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note)).")
In the UK, you're looking at the Malicious Communications Act 1988 (amended 2001), which states the following -
"(1) Any person who sends to another person
(a) a letter, electronic communication or article of any description which conveys
(i) a message which is indecent or grossly offensive
(ii) a threat or
(iii) information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender or
(b) any article or electronic communication which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,
is guilty of an offence if his purpose, or one of his purposes, in sending it is that it should, so far as falling within paragraph (a) or (b) above, cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated."
(The relevant section is section 1, subsection a, paragraph ii.)
So there you go. If you need any other legal advice from a first year Law student who's not been admitted to the bar in his country yet and thus is in no way an expert on foreign legislation, don't hesitate to ask (on the plus side, it's free advice, heh). -
Thankee ^_^ (nm) by
on 2008-10-22 02:45:00 UTC
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What a bastard. Good luck, love. *growls at cyberstalker* (nm) by
on 2008-10-21 01:49:00 UTC
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Bloody bastard... by
on 2008-10-20 18:38:00 UTC
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There are two different ways to attack this - cut his E-mail account, and cut his web access. The first is more likely, all you should need to do is forward one of the E-mails with an appropriate note added to abuse@ his E-mail provider. They should deal with it quickly.
The second is a bit trickier - you'll need to open up the MIME headers of his E-mail address. Included in the header is a server-by-server list of how the E-mail got from him to you, including all IP addresses involved. The first one on the list should be his. If it's something at yahoo.com or whatever, he's using a webmail client - go back to technique one.
Once you have his IP, it's relatively easy to reverse-DNS it (or whois) and work out at least generally where he is. Unfortunately, laws on cyberstalking vary wildly by state - some have very strict laws, some have no laws at all. You'll have to play that one by ear. -
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on 2008-10-20 18:38:00 UTC
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You'll have to open up the MIME headers of his E-mails, not his address. Sorry.
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Okay, we're working on that ... by
on 2008-10-20 22:11:00 UTC
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Will update as necessary.
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Er, more importantly; where can I report cyberstalking? by
on 2008-10-19 14:41:00 UTC
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I can't find a suitable place to report it, because what they're sending me isn't technically illegal, just annoying and creepy.
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If you need some help... by
on 2008-10-19 22:29:00 UTC
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You, or I, if there's an issue, cna use my Neopets account. It's been years since I actually used the thing, but it should be enough to let you report to the Admin of the place.
And if it's making you uncomfortable, and you've asked them to stop, it is illegal. It's mental and emotional abuse, and even if it occurs over a cyber setting, it's still illegal.
http://www.neopets.com/autoform_abuse.phtml?abuse=report
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I can't ask them to stop, I don't know who they are. by
on 2008-10-19 22:56:00 UTC
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It's the 4chan moron(s) again. I'm also pretty sure that whoever it is is on the other side of the Atlantic from me, so I don't know what I can do.
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So ideas... by
on 2008-10-20 02:12:00 UTC
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Cyberstalking and that is covered under local law. If they're in America, they'll be punished under American law. If you have their IP Address, notifying their Internet Provider can help, and if you're serious, they can easily press charges against the person doing so.
And when it comes to the Neopets, inform them of the hijacking of your accounts and what's going on with your email. If you provide the neccesary details, then the Neopets team could probably track the person's IP address the next time they log on to your accounts and ban that IP address from Neopets. -
I don't have or want a Neopets account at all. by
on 2008-10-20 12:00:00 UTC
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They're just using my email address to make hundreds of the things and flood my inbox with confirmation emails. And I don't have an IP address for the idiot, nor do I know how to get it.
Found a much simpler solution, though; I blocked all Neopets email from even arriving in my inbox. I saved all the ones I received beforehand in case I need them as evidence and my dad complained to the mods. I'd appreciate it if you could complain on my behalf, since I want nothing to do with the site. -
I was going to suggest... by
on 2008-10-20 17:42:00 UTC
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... contacting Neopets (possibly from that email address, for verification) and telling them that you will not sign up to their site using that address, and that any requests they get to do so are fraudulent. See if they can do anything about it.
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I can't, because of the way they're set up. by
on 2008-10-20 18:15:00 UTC
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The only direct-contact email addresses provided are to ask for employment at Neopets. Otherwise you have to click a button reading "account frozen" or "page not working", and none of them cover this situation, and to use half of them you have to be logged in to an account, which I don't have.
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There are a few generic addresses.... by
on 2008-10-20 18:40:00 UTC
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abuse@neopets, webmaster@neopets, and/or admin@neopets should get you a (very serious) bite.