- Bard I of Dale would be most unwelcome in Amara.
-Or Pern.
-Or Alagaesia.
-Túrin Turambar is not to go to any above either.
687. I will not build a planet around an alien horde.
688. I will not relentlessly goad an Agent who suffers from the Bloodwrath.
689. Sonic screwdrivers may only be used for worksafe purposes.
690. I will not permit Madoc "El Rabioso" Branzillo and Madoc "El Zarco" Branzillo to cross paths.
691. I will not give Agent Madison a Doctor Who badfic if there are flammables in the area.
692. I will not try to ride the Corkscrew Cattail.
693. I will not call Jenny "Jenny Who."
694. I will not tell any K-9 to "forget it."
695. I will not let Sir Devin anywhere near the personnel files.
-Or the medical database.
696. I will not tell anyone to get their food from Ahnonay.
697. Jewel the Unicorn is not Charlie.
698. I will not try to recruit Davros for DoSAT.
699. I will not send anyone Legendary Badfic disguised as their favorite book.
700. I will not claim a Ring of Power as my own.
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Things I am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC Part IX by
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-I will not kidnap Rikku (FFX/X-2) and drop her in FFVII, especially right next to Yuffie. Nor is the reverse acceptable.
--Nor will I point the two at someone extremely rich and hint that he/she might have treasure/materia.
--Nor will I bring the two to HQ and hint that someone I particularly dislike might have treasure/materia.
--If they have already met via crossover, I will attempt to mitigate the damage, not add fuel to the fire by dragging in any of the following: Norma Beatty(Tales of Legendia), Anise Tatlin(Tales of the Abyss)... or any other canons who are even vaguely obsessed with unclaimed properties of a valuable nature. Captain Jack Sparrow is right out.
-I will not steal a necromancer's bells and attempt to use one of them for an exorcism.
--Especially not Astarael. Killing everyone in hearing range is not funny.
--Also not Kibeth. The Walker has a sense of humour.
--No. Just no.
-I will refrain from making bad puns regarding Jewels within earshot of anyone from the Black Jewels Trilogy and related works. They are not likely to be appreciated, by the canons or my partner.
-Captain Jack Sparrow does not need to know about the Legacy(ToL), no matter how funny I think the resulting bit of attempted piracy might be.
-I will not steal the weapons of any video game hero; they are likely to need them. Soon.
--Even if I am a raging kleptomaniac. -
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- I will not introduce Sylar to the Master.
--Or the Joker
--Or Stewie Griffin
--Or any other homicidal psychotic bent on world domination
814. I will not claim Ianto Jones is Alfred Pennyworth's long lost son.
--Even if it makes sense.
- I will not introduce Sylar to the Master.
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- I will not mention cross-pollination around any of the Flowers.
810. I will not allow King Leonidas and Davy Crockett to meet.
811. I will not allow Zorro and Robin Hood to meet.
-Even though that would be so many degrees of awesomeness.
812. I will not tell anyone that they are the Banana King.
-Nor will I tell them to put a banana in their ear.
-Nor will I force them to go on a journey to "Candy Mountain".
-In fact, Charlie the Unicorn reenactments of any sort are strictly forbidden.
- I will not mention cross-pollination around any of the Flowers.
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several more by
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On encountering any vampire, banshee, werewolf or undead agent I will not scream, "Back un-holy beast of the night!" at them.
-Nor will I atempt to ward them off with garlic, crucifixes, mirrors, pigs etc. -
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- I will not tell the Doctor to "get over it, you've killed lots of women."
--Or Angel.
--Or any semi-imortal canon with a penchant for killing people.
--Seriously, they have a reason to angst.
807. I will not introduce Ned from Pushing Daisies to George from Dead Like Me.
--Or Rube.
--Or Mason.
--Or any Grim Reaper.
--Even if I want to find out what happens when he touches them.
- I will not tell the Doctor to "get over it, you've killed lots of women."
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805. I will not portal Hitsugaya Toshiro to Mustafar by
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- Or to Tattoine
- Or Mount Doom
- Or to any other desert/volcano canon location
- Even if I am doing research on how to melt his bankai
- Or to Tattoine
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That last one sounds so incredibly wrong (nm) by
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- I will not introduce Dr. Horrible to Lex Luthor.
-Or any other supervillain.
-Or any other superhero, for that matter.
797. Bad Horse is not a Cute Animal Friend.
798. The Freeze Ray song is not to be sung in DoSAT.
-Or the laundry room.
[Do we have a laundry room? There must be one somewhere, right?]
799. I will not introduce Rorshach to the Question.
- I will not introduce Dr. Horrible to Lex Luthor.
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(Think we have laundry rooms.) (nm) by
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meet Lessa and Ramoth
- Or F'lar and Mnementh
- Or any other Pernese dragonrider pair.
795. I will not feed Sues to Pernese dragons.
- Listen, we don't need Suvian dragons
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794 con't: I am also not allowed to let E&S meet by
on 2008-08-12 12:06:00 UTC
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- any Tolkien dragon.
- any Narnian dragon
- any dragon from A Song Of Ice And Fire
- Temeraire (toooooooo late!)
- Trogdor
as the outcome will most likely be incineration of the former and extreme annoyance on the part of the latter.
- any Tolkien dragon.
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772. The Master and the Joker must never be allowed to meet. by
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- The same goes for Lord Denethor and Lord Vetinari.
773a. They probably keep in touch anyway.
773b. Addendum: none of the following are to meet either:
- Iron Man and/or Iron Monger and any Transformer.
- General Grievous and the Daleks.
- Cthulhu and the Ood.
- The cast of Avatar The Last Airbender and the Planeteers.
774. Galadriel is not Cersei Lannister.
774a. Nor is she comparable to River Tam.
774b. Although she can kill you with her brain.
775. I am not allowed to lock Finrod Felagund and Remus Lupin in a room on the night of the full moon to see what happens.
776. I am not allowed to portal Buffy the Vampire Slayer into the Twilight series.
777. The same goes for the Winchester brothers.
778. Just because I've seen the abridged series of a show doesn't mean that I know the canon and am able to go out on missions for that fandom.
778a. No, reading the TvTropes page for it isn't enough either.
779. I am not allowed to set up statues around HQ and broadcast a warning about a group of Stone Angels infiltrating the PPC.
- The same goes for Lord Denethor and Lord Vetinari.
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774c. Nor is she Jacqueline Hyde.
780. Ledger's Joker and Carcer Dun must never be allowed to meet.
781. I will not tamper with a TARDIS' chameleon circuit to make it look like the Big Bad in every continuum it lands in.
782. I will not call Agent Dustin "Dusty SEP-Field."
-He only activates it to keep canonical contamination to a minimum.
783. I will not venture into the Dornsef Mountains without a Disguise Outfitting Ryticular Kostume System AND a Remote Activator or a TARDIS.
-If I do, I understand that whatever happens is my fault.
784. I will never assume a fandom to be devoid of Badfic.
-If I do, the Narrative Laws of Comedy demand that there be legendary-grade squickfic for it.
785. I will not pit Jaws against a wahrk to "see what happens."
786. I will not arrange a meeting between the Borg and the Cybermen to "see what happens."
787. I will not arrange a meeting between the Mondasian and Cybus Cybermen.
788. I will not glomp a Flower.
789. I will not portal any Redwall character into a furry convention.
-Nor will I convey them there by means of a TARDIS.
-In fact, I will not take them to one at all.
790. I will not squee if there is any chance "squee" might be a noun in the continuum.
791. I will not write badfic about an Agent I am mad at.
792. I will not clown around on Spire.
-Even if I can panic-link. -
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- I will not portal Lux into the Hub.
- Not even if Lux asks me to
- Not even if I think Jack would appreciate her
- Not even if it's the only way to get her away from me
766. I will not insinuate that Inuzuka Kiba and Akamaru are partners in that manner
- Especially not within their hearing range
- If I do I will not complain about my injuries later
768. I will not allow Kurotsuchi Mayuri to meet Michael from Stargate Atlantis
- Nor will I allow Szayel Apollo Grantz to meet Michael
- Introducing them to each other outside of battle is right out
769. The Shinigami from Bleach are not the same as the Shinigami from Death Note, and I should stop insinuating this
- If I do so in hearing range of any Shinigami Agents (of either sort) then I shouldn't be surprised at the resulting injuries
770. I will not refer to Kuchiki Byakuya's kenseikan as 'hair noodles' to his face ever again.
- Senbonzakura hurts. Senbonzakura Kageyoshi hurts even more.
- Agent Cerrin will also show her displeasure, in the form of her pyromaniacal boyfriend.
771. I will not refer to Edward Elric as short (or any variation thereof) within his hearing range
- Even if the resulting temper tantrum is funny
- The same goes for Agent Trip; his fireballs hurt and rarely miss
- I will not portal Lux into the Hub.
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A few? by
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- I will not recruit more than one replica of a canonical character.
-And preferably not replicas of canonicals who look extraordinarily alike.
-Especially not until canon sorts that mess out.
757. I may not clone characters myself.
-Not even for stress relief. There will always be Sues to take it out on.
758. I may not injure canonicals I find particularly aggravating.
-Even if the injuries wouldn't show or be noticed.
-Even if the injuries can be healed after.
-Even if I neuralyse them afterwards.
-I may, however, dress up a Sue like that character and punch her in the face.
- I will not recruit more than one replica of a canonical character.
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731) Yelling 'Thunderbirds Are Go' every time you launch a space ship was funny the first 15,325 times.
732) I will not ask Professors Oak, Elm, Birch or Rowan how their Pokeballs are.
-Or Ash Ketchum.
-Or Gary Oak.
-Or anyone from the Pokemon World.
733) I will not allow Agent Arti to access a TF-Gun, even if the photos would be great for blackmail.
-Particularly if they would be good for blackmail.
734) I also will not allow Agent Arti anywhere near the choir. This is for the safety of everyone.
735) I will not portal to Paragon City if I believe I look good in superhero tights.
-Or the Marvel Universe.
-Or the DC Universe.
736)I will not portal to the Universe of 'Celebrity Deathmatch' just to arrange the deaths of my most hated celebrities or characters, even if it would be canon.
737) I will not go anywhere near DoGA if I use a lot of hair gel and / or come from a Final Fantasy Universe.
-Nor will I direct anyone wearing hear gel to DoGA.
738) I will not mention the name 'Robecca' in earshot of Aslan. If I do, I will only blame myself for the consequences.
739) I will never call a 'Digimon' a 'daemon'.
-Or vice-versa.
740) I will not portal another Agent into the middle of a Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Link's Triforce Slash [i]hurts[/i].
741) I will not tell Tidus from Final Fantasy X that he is such a dream.
-Just because it's true doesn't mean he'll take it well.
742) Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin must never meet.
-Even if the ensuing hilarity would be unlike anything the world has ever seen.
743) Just because I dreamt of fighting the Battle of Helm's Deep with a machine gun, does not make it canon.
744) I will not answer any Sue's insult with 'Yo momma' or 'Yo face'. This will often enrage them.
-Particularly Abused!Sues.
745) Wearing Airgears will not allow me to get places faster in HQ.
746) The 'Power of Three' won't set me free of the Sues, no matter how many times I repeat it.
747) I will never pit an army of Mary-Sues against the hordes of Heartless in Hollow Bastion. Though the results would be amusing, we do not need Sueified Heartless taking the hearts of PPC AGents just by thinking about them.
748) I will never put another Agent's name on the Death Note.
-Even if we can resurrect them.
-Even if the way they die would be hilarious.
749) I can not steal the Keyblade from Sora. My heart is not pure enough, nor am is it powerful enough to do so.
750) I will not burst into singing 'Stick to the Status Quo' when in the HQ Cafeteria.
751) Nor will I sing 'I Don't Dance' in response to 'Stick to the Status Quo'.
752) Actually, there will be no random songs inside of HQ other than in specially designated areas.
-Abusing the Specially Designated Areas may result in a conductor's baton being shoved up your nose.
753) I will not require a dance-off to settle disputes with other Agents. This may give the minis ideas, and we do not need holes burnt through the floors from the mini-Balrogs break-dancing.
754) Happy thoughts alone will not make me fly.
-I will also stop telling the New Recruits this.
755) Tinkerbell has enough issues already. I will not add more by kidnapping her so that I can fly. -
Lost count of the numbers, but oh,well... by
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(apologies if something similar has already been done; I've read the List before, but I can't remember all the details)
#. I will not portal into a Potter fic set in book six or early book seven to rescue Remus and Tonks
- No, not even for sake of little Teddy
#. I will not debate the qualifications for being a "star" within earshot of Yvaine.
- If I do, the resulting incineration is entirely my own fault
- even if I WAS innocently referring to celebrities
#. I will not kill Eragon
- or Sapphira
- or Arya
- or Paolini
#. I will not call Worf "Mr Woof" and expect to live
- only Lwaxana gets away with that
- same applies for "Will Scarlet"
#. I will not pretend to have missed rule #_[Trojie's] and give Edmund Peter's crown
- no, not even if the gold-versus-silver thing is blatently unfair
- we all know silver's better anyway
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- I will not go on missions 'skyclad'
- Or 'naked, like the celts'.
-No, not even if the console beeped while I was in the shower
-Walking around HQ like that is similarly discouraged
-I only have myself to blame if Lux misinterprets it
729. I will not take Napalm into Mirkwood
-Or Mossflower
-Or Lothlorien
-Or any canonical wood or forest.
730. I will not switch a Pernese dragon with a Hungarian Hornback
-Not even if I think Lessa can handle it
-Not even if I think Harry deserves something a bit easier during the first task
-I can, however, switch a Sue's dragon for a Hornback
- I will not go on missions 'skyclad'
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Too late! by
on 2008-08-11 02:26:00 UTC
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My Agent went on his first mission clad in only a towel after being interruptd in the shower. Does that count?
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Didn't he wind up without the towel a few times?
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Why yes, yes he did... Poor Lunac *Snickers* (nm) by
on 2008-08-11 08:44:00 UTC
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He was covered up, wasn't he? (nm) by
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If anything I think that is incentive to put it on the list.
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Here...we...go! by
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- I cannot, and will not try to, simply rock into Mordor.
715. I will not teleport an army of zerglings into Middle-Earth and zerg rush the Black Gate.
- I will also not zerg rush the Citadel in City 17.
- Or any of the Horcruxes.
- Or Klatch.
- Or any prominent building, land or object in any
continuum outside of the Starcraft universe.
716. I will not introduce Wall.E to Johnny 5.
717. I will not teleport Goku into the Heroesverse, or Peter Petrelli into the Dragonballverse.
718. I will not teleport Star Wolf into the PPC.
- Not even at the request of a Flower.
- The PPC can't let you do that, Agents.
719. I will not make reference to Sharpteeth around the PPC Nursery.
720. I will not attempt to kill off Mutt Williams if I enter an Indiana Jones 4 fic.
- Nor will I try to kill Anakin Skywalker if I enter
a Star Wars prequels fic.
- No matter how much I want to send a message to
George Lucas that his meddling kids are not
appreciated.
- I cannot, and will not try to, simply rock into Mordor.
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Aww, no Star Wolf? (nm) by
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Re: Here...we...go! by
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Your zerglings. My zealots. Bring it.
Um, it's probably not a good idea to let 'Toss outside their native continuum either, is it? Oops. Well, any world can be improved by a Dark Archon or two running around. -
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I am a PPC Agent, not River Tam. My combat skills therefore DO have limits, and I DO need to practice to acquire skill with an unfamiliar weapon.
- However, just because she has incredible innate combat skills does not mean River Tam is a Sue.
- If she finds out you've been insinuating that she's a Sue, she'll take you to the forking cleaners, mate.
I may not kill Peter Pevensie and install Edmund as High King instead.
- No, not even if Edmund is the more sensible of the two and would therefore be a more suitable king.
- Peter isn't a Stu, honestly.
- I know he's irritating, but still.
On that note, I am not allowed to rip movieverse!Susan away from movieverse!Caspian at the end of 'Prince Caspian'
- Movieverse technically is a legitimate canon, okay?
- And the fact that her name is Susan does not make her a Sue.
-Ripping Susan away from Caspian and substituting Peter or Edmund, while tempting, is not allowed either.
- While we're at it, ripping Susan away from Caspian and substituting yourself is RIGHT OUT.
I am not allowed to take an MP3 player into fics in order to play 'Smack My Bitch Up' when I assassinate Sues
- Ditto 'Battle Without Honour or Humanity'
- Ditto 'Back in Black'
- I am not allowed to play any song when assassinating Sues. That's only one teeny step from having a theme-tune.
I am not allowed to hit Agent July in the head
- She gets concussed enough as it is by herself, she doesn't need help.
- If I have reason to need to stop her from doing something, I should hit her somewhere else instead.
I am not allowed to mention the Kraken from POTC in the hearing of Agent Trojie if I value my own ignorance of invertebrate anatomy.
I am not allowed to pit Jadis the White Witch against the Witch-King of Angmar.
- Not even if I think it would be a bitchin' fight scene.
Building Maintenance do not go armed and are not generally proficient with weaponry in any case. This does not mean I can irritate them at will, as they are EXTREMELY proficient with electricty and explosives and can collapse my RC on me if I piss them off. -
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I am not to throw anti-lustin grenades into RCs belonging to agents who are partners in that way.
- Especially if said agents are in bed
- Or in the shower. Together.
Conversely, I am not to throw lustin grenades into RCs belonging to agents who are 'just partners, thank you very much'
- Even if they'd make a really good couple
- Even if one of them asks me to.
-- I am to understand that should performing either of the above actions result in my being painfully dismembered/shot/stabbed/decapitated/bitten/strangled/poisoned/blown up/having my throat cut, it is entirely my own fault.
The PPC is not Torchwood, and I am not to refer to it as such.
- Neither am I to compare my fellow agents to Torchwood characters.
- Or force them to dress up as said characters.
- Roleplaying as said characters is right out.
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I will not drop Agents face to face with their Lust Objects.
-Not even if their method of fighting for self-control and finding the Anti-Lustin at the same time is funny.
-Especially if it is funny.
I will not portal Legendary Badfic writers into HQ wearing signs proclaiming the fics they wrote.
-If I do, then the carnage that ensues will be entirely my fault and I will have to fix it myself.
-Especially if I put LBTwriter in RC #45. -
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- I will not take advantage of Agent Drake's naivety.
-- Especially not by attempting to use him as a Luxury-distracting method.
- I will not tell Tiria Wildlough that most of the fandom hates her. She's already developing quite a bad case of self-loathing.
- I will not portal into the Nelvana cartoon version of Redwall and attempt to perform gender-reassignment surgery on Pallum.
-- Even if everyone I know does hate said cartoon, it's still a legitimate canon.
--- Particularly if I do not work in Medical and therefore do not know how to perform said surgery. Not that many people in Medical know how to perform it on a hedgehog.
- I may not drop the Pevensies into the Spellsinger continuum while muttering "Let's see how you handle it without a god on your side" in an ominous manner.
- Speaking of Spellsinger, I should not introduce Mudge the otter to Luxury.
-- Nor should I make comments in front of him about "cousin Skipper". Their continua are not in fact compatible, whatever certain badficcers may think.
- An addendum to the earlier "death matches are a bad idea" rules: DC Simpson and Ralph E Hayes should not be portalled into HQ and made to battle to the death.
-- Real World people should not be portalled into HQ without warning in general, unless they require medical treatment after an RPF fic.
- I will not take advantage of Agent Drake's naivety.
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I will not mention 'mating heat' and 'dinosaurs' in the same sentence within hearing range of Agent Trojie.
- If I do, the resulting lectures are my own fault. -
Is There a Master List Somewhere? (nm) by
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Yup by
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Here, all eight parts.
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Funny by
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*grins* Those are hilarious.
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Gracias by
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'Tis bookmarked
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It's this time again? Yay! by
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- I will not lock Agent Stormsong in a small room with Agent Ansela and her bagpipes.
702. I will not lock Agent Risa in a room filled with reptiles.
-If I do I will take full responsibility for the resultant injuries
703. Kira Izura from Bleach is not Kira from Death Note. Therefore I will refrain from tying him up and dumping him in L's room with a note saying 'I am Kira'.
- Tying Kira up and kidnapping him for other reasons is also out.
704. Setsuna F. Seiei is not Yagami Light, therefore I should stop asking him to use his Death Note to kill Sues with.
705. Sentient Gundams do not belong in HQ. Especially not if they are Stus.
- I will not lock Agent Stormsong in a small room with Agent Ansela and her bagpipes.
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- I will not try to set up a battle between Bashar Miles Teg and Grand Admiral Thrawn.
-They'd figure out your plan in seconds.
-Then they'll create complicated plans to avoid being neutralized.
-Then they'll combine forces.
-And that's bad.
- I will not try to set up a battle between Bashar Miles Teg and Grand Admiral Thrawn.
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- The pyro from Team Fortress 2 and the agents from DOGA must never, Ever meet.
-They'd start swapping notes and methods
-Then they'd go on a flaming rampage as a team
-This would be a really bad idea.
- The pyro from Team Fortress 2 and the agents from DOGA must never, Ever meet.
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A Few New Departments by
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The Chronological Restoration Department, which handles historical fiction, decided to come into existence in a For Better or For Worse fic I'm writing. Agent Laurel is working Early American and English history. Anyone else care to sign on? Doesn't have to be full-time.
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Query. by
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Is there any way this differs from the Historical Innacuracies Division of the Department of the Department of Technical Offences?
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My bad. Didn't realize there was already one in existence. Carry on, then.
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I have to point out, though, that there aren't a lot of people /in/ the HId, so you could still flesh that out significantly...
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Ah, this sounds like a very good idea... by
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My agent is in what often seems like the ultimate history-muck-up fandom around, so I'll stick her in. Eni'll work Ancient Chinese history (and anything else I know something about) if needed.
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Sounds excellent by
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Now to find people to cover the rest of the world
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historical fiction in what sense by
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I've handled a few fanfics that mucked up history. But is this department specifically for fandoms that have a historical setting or does it go everywhere?
Agent Allison might be interested. Her knowledge of history is anekdotal and mainly covers 19th and early 20th century West-European and (some) American history. -
In a historical setting by
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If someone had Henry VIII, for example, regretting divorcing Catherine of Aragon, the CRD would get involved.
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Would that include by
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characters being transported to the time of the Newsboy strike and then treat the events as depicted in the film Newsies as the way things really happened?
That one might be tricky enough: it's for a fandom that essentially has the function of the CRD: if history goes wrong they set it right (which explains my gripe with treating a work of fiction as the right set of events).
Other question: where would minor chronogical hickups fall under? Hickups as someone mentioning being run over by a car (with combustion engine) in 1775, or a historical figure mentioned as being (yet not shown) to be in location A, while in reality he was in location B. Is that CRD worthy, or are those case this handled by the regular DMS of Floater agents? -
The CRD is redundant, so it's closing by
on 2008-08-16 23:52:00 UTC
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hS pointed that out to me so...yeah.
A motor car in 1775? That's not minor. Depending on where Characters being one place instead of another...depends on how it'll affect history. If they're writing a 'what if' or acknowledge it's an alternate version, then they're covered.
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OT: Plug of a short-storied nature. by
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"So there I was, trapped, and no way out. I was gettin' desperate, ya know? Tryin' like crazy ta find some kinda way around the barrier, but no luck anyway I tried." He paused for dramatic effect, slicked back the fuzz on his head, and continued. "Every time I thought I saw somethin', I'd go fer it and hit a wall again, ya know?"
His audience nodded, almost in unison, and Gud licked his lips and took another sip of his drink.
"And then, jest when I was thinkin' it couldna gotten worse, the whole damn place starts thunderin'! It was somethin', I'll tell you what. And then, all the sudden, the whole barrier freakin' grates down a couple feet! It was incredible! I didn't wait fer no signal, I'll tell ya. I went straight for that gap next to the thing, and none too soon!" He paused again, looking with a wide grin around the small crowd.
"And none too soon-- jest as I was haulin' ass outta there, this huge mass comes lumberin' in, like some kinda monster or somethin'! I tell you, that thing took one look at me and I was gone, no need ta wait around fer somethin' like that! When I made it out to the other place, there was a breeze blowin', an' it took me 'bout a split second to follow it the hell outta there! Another one o' the damn things took a swipe at me as I was slidin' through, around the screen-- bloodthirsty monsters, the lot of 'em. But I made it, and ya know why? 'Cause Gud's a survivor, that's why."
He looked with satisfaction around the crowd, smirking. It was a tale, that's for sure. Got 'em every time. The youngsters loved to hear it, and it even impressed some of the older ones-- the ones who hadn't done the same themselves too often, that is. And even then, they liked to match up tall tales, sometimes. Now, though-- what was that character up to?
Pike smiled and took a sip, watching the old fellow bask. He couldn't resist, though, and, carefully folding his wings, pointed out, "It all comes of your foolhardy following the scent of the food, wherever it happens to lead. No one with a brain would go into one of those deathtraps if they gave it half a thought."
He was met by the expected cold sneer. "Well, excuuuse me, we can't all sit around and sip the drink o' the gods, now can we? Some of us have to work to find our food. An' what's a character like yerself doin' in here anyway, if yer so much better than us common flies, eh?"
In answer, the monarch simply raised his glass. "Makes great drinks, and the conversation's entertaining."
"Yeah, well you can jest as well take your overlong probo somewhere else, yeah? We don't need no stinkin' flutterbugs 'round here."
Pike smiled again, and unfolded his wings. He was easily twice the size of the small green bug, but, sense of mischievous wit aside, would rather not get into fights, especially with houseflies-- they tended to get nasty, quickly. "As you wish-- Gud, was it?" He drained the last of his drink and, flexing once, rose quickly into the air on his graceful, orange wings.
Houseflies. They were an odd bunch, and no mistake. He'd known some pretty smart ones, and some pretty stupid ones, but the craftiest ones even had a problem when it came to food. It was like they couldn't help themselves! Like he'd pointed out, no one with half a brain would go into a house if they thought about it for two seconds, but if a fly smelled food, a fly would... well, fly. Pike laughed to himself as he landed on the top of the holly bush. Food of the gods, was it? Alright then, he'd take it.
Pike was the exception for most monarchs, he knew. There was a reason why old Gud had been giving him funny looks even before he'd opened his mouth. An average butterfly simply did not hang around under bushes-- especially not with houseflies. Butterflies were sunlight bugs, sunlight and flowers and breezes and dewy mornings. But Pike was not an average butterfly. He'd been a strange one, even as a caterpillar, or so his friends had told him. The days of crawling were only a very hazy memory, at best, to most butterflies. Infancy, really, and then the cocoon, and then-- then rebirth.
There was a reason, he mused, why so many other flying insects looked at them so strangely, and why most butterflies kept their own company. They were not like other bugs. Butterflies had their own problems, their own risks-- quite different from the lives of other bugs, even aside from the rebirth halfway through their lives. They were practically like a magnet for predators, sometimes, and finding food was completely different from any other bug's life. No other bug had hummingbirds to contend with, he thought wryly.
"Oi! Flutterbug!"
Startled, Pike broke out of his reverie to see a young mosquito on the leaf opposite glaring at him. "...Yes?"
"You're in my spot, flutterbug."
Pike curled one antenna, the butterfly equivalent of raising an eyebrow. "Your spot?" Mosquitoes were quite posibly the cheekiest bugs he'd ever come across. Maybe one tenth his size, shouting at him as though he was an aphid, the thing! They were crazy, the lot of them, too-- constantly dodging in and out of angry mammals' reaches can do that to you. They didn't usually live long, but the ones who did were the best storytellers in the world, houseflies be damned.
"My spot! I'm there every morning, it's the only place on this bush where you can catch any sunlight!" The little bug twitched its sharp mouth angrily. Pike was amused.
"Alright, alright, don't get your wings twisted. I'm going." Grinning to himself, he rose up into the air again, and, after a short pause to get his bearings, headed for the nearest vine of flowers. It was past lunch anyway, and there was nothing quite like morning glories at this time of day-- right before they folded. Some butterflies he knew liked the stuff fresh, but he tended to go for the older nectar-- it collected miniscule particles of dust, giving it an odd... "tested" sort of flavor.
Food of the gods, indeed. He unrolled his long proboscis-- it was one of the longest around, and he was rather vain, in that aspect. As he flitted from flower to flower, slowly working up to a full stomach, clouds gathered on the horizon, and the air began to get heavy. Pike grimaced as he realized that the growing storm could well be a bit dangerous, if things got heavy. It looked like cutting his lunch short was the only option.
Worth it, though, he acknowledged, settling in behind the trellis of the vines. Shifting his wings into a more comfortable position, Pike slowly fell asleep as the rain pounded outside, safe and... well, relatively warm.
So... thoughts? I will probably expand on it and add it to the growing book of short stories to lie gathering dust on my computer forever. Heh. -
Cool story by
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Would definitely say expand it. And then post it.
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Re: Cool story by
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Thanks, and will do!
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Great Story! (nm) by
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Thank you! (nm) by
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Very good. Can I see more when you write it, please? (nm) by
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Yep. by
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Thanks! I'll hopefully be able to expand the thing into a longer story, at least a few pages, and then hopefully show it off. ^^
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*applause* by
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Very well written.
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Thanks very much. (nm) by
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Problem accessing PPCwiki by
on 2008-08-11 07:36:00 UTC
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If I try going to the PPCwiki all I get is a list of sponsored links. And a list of related topics that go to more sponsored links.
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*points down* by
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Wikilot's kinda... uh... dead. Apparently they only gave one day's notice, so... um... no one was really happy with them about it.
Most of the stuff was saved, though, and there's a new wiki... I believe it's here. The front page looks kinda barren at the moment, but it looks like most everything is there.
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I see by
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I scrolled down to see if I had any unread links. Stopped scrolling down when I spotted the read links. For some reason the wiki-message had slipped under my radar on Sunday.
Well, there's already two features in the new wiki I like, so the move is not all bad.
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Should I... by
on 2008-08-11 13:10:00 UTC
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Ask permission to add new(Non-Mission) elements into the Official PPC Canon?
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It all depends on what you want to do. by
on 2008-08-11 13:38:00 UTC
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If it's adding club, like the PPC orchestra for example, then I shouldn't think so. If, however, you want to alter the history of the whole organisation, then yes. You'd need to give more details on what you want to do before you get a proper answer, I think. I could be wrong; I'm just a humble midbie, but I don't think you've given enough information.
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Actually, all I want is to add... by
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A new atagonist organization for the town in New Caledonia, which would explain some things(like the occasional bouts of unemployment, and provide some backstory for one of my future Agents. Said atagonist organization has already been mentioned in my Fanfic Land entries and one of Agent Tawaki's missions(this onehttp://community.livejournal.com/tawaki_ppc/7565.html). The organization's name is the Cult of the Smut Carver.
PS: If this is a bad idea, I'll gladly stop, especially if someone tells me that I'm beginning to resemble Fichunter. -
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Sounds interesting. I look forward to seeing what you do with it.
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I find this idea quite intriguing. by
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Though I have to feel sorry for the PPC Agents, having so many enemies... the DIS/Black Cats, the LMSF, the Mirror Multiverse, the CSC...
Okay, so not many enemies, but big mean nasty ones.
Go ahead with the cult. I'd like to see how the PPC cope with this new threat. -
That doesn't sound too bad. by
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If people have already used it, then I shouldn't think you need Permission. As long as you have a good explanation for why they're opposing the PPC, what they want to acheive etc. then it should be okay. It would probably be a good idea to wait and see what some of the more senior board members say, though.
Don't worry about sounding too outspoken. It's good to contribute positively, and you're doing so fine. -
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I'd send a copy of the essay I'm forming about them to you, but it's still a text document, ready to be deleted when the first sign of disapproval comes.
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You're writing an essay? by
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That's pretty dedicated, to me at least. I normally just type down whatever I can think of and then edit the result so it's vaguely readable. :P
You don't need to delete it, even if people don't agree. Being able to write essays is a pretty useful skill, and if you're proud of it, there's no need to banish it from your computer. If this is met with disapproval, which it hasn't so far, I'd keep the essay privately. I've got a load of WIPs which I could never show to the public, but that I often work on anyway. -
Actually, It's more like a historical account... (nm) by
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*Scratches head* by
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You really don't have to do that. For the most part, most of the ideas in the PPC are just thrown out there with small details, which means everyone can elaborate on them at a later point or change this or that. Though I suppose it'd be useful for a Wiki page.
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Well, I'm not very good, and like I said, it's still an MS.. by
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...Word document.
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*Squints, turns head to the side* Wellll, from this angle... by
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Nah, it's cool. I think for something like that, you'd have to see what everyone else on the site thinks. Exactly how would the CSC be antagonistic to the PPC?
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Here's how... by
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The CSC usually sends cultists into the city to ambush people and force them to read bad squickfic, putting them into a coma. However, they're not above a bit of vandalism at times, especially when it comes to buisnesses like the Tour Prend Pion. They also dress in lavander, the better to traumatize agents.
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OT: Looking for beta for non-PPC writing by
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Specifically, for a 1sentence drabble series.
I'm confident on characterisation, so only technical betaing is required.
I'm not sure of the rating either. There's some smutty references, but I can't get too explicit in just one sentence.
I can send it as a googledoc or an attached file. -
I'm always up to beta by
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I can do technicalities, and I have no problems with smut. Send away!
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if not; trojanhorseshadowfax AT gmail DOT com
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Re: wait, you know my gmail, right? by
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I've sent it. Or shared it.
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it did, I've got it now. Just reading. (nm) by
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Still alive by
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I was on vacation, but I'm still alive. I'm doing science, and I'm still alive. While you're dying I'll be still alive... Oops, sorry about that.
So yeah, summer vacation does murder on my forum attendance. I just wanted to say that since the vacation is coming to an end, I'll be back here to spread witty sarcasm and odd opinions. -
'Lo! by
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*gives a Ypur calf* It's like a tiny yak, except it's blue, eats sausages and has really spiky horns. It's really cute, though.
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'Ello again! by
on 2008-08-12 12:18:00 UTC
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Welcome back to the board! :D
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*smites enter key* by
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Sorry for double post. >
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'Ello again! by
on 2008-08-12 11:55:00 UTC
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Welcome back to the board! :D
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*snitches cake* Welcome back! (nm) by
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*waves happily* by
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Lurkage is all well and good, but welcome back to the active life. Witty sarcasm and odd opinions rarely hurt anyone. And then only if they're written on a stone and thrown at them.
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Will there be cake? by
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Glad to see you're not yet dead.
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Original Fiction by
on 2008-08-12 12:25:00 UTC
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I've got an original fiction in the works and I'm a bit confused.
Would elves (though they're not Tolkien rip-offs like usual) be Supernatural or Fantasy genre. Because they do have roots in the supernatural.
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Thanks for the help, but I've since decided that it was fantasy. Supernatural is probably only ghosts etc, isn’t it?
Sorry that I couldn’t give a better explanation before, but my time at the library was almost up and I was about to get booted off the computer because of it. Anyway, here's the plot outline. It's still only a draft and could potentially change at any time. It's met with mixed comments from the few I've shown it to so far. I've also just recently changed a few things, so if something doesn't make any sense, call me out on it.
The year on Earth is 22?? (unsure of exact year. Probably the latter part of the century). Kyle Redfield, Europe’s stealthiest burglar, has been a thorn in the side of the police for over fifteen years. When a strange woman arrives at his door, bloodied and beaten, he feels a strange urge to take her in rather than send her to a hospital. As he nurses her back to health, he hacks into police files and finds no mention of the woman ever existing.
Demanding answers, Mala tells him that the worlds of magic and science used to be one, but split apart centuries before because of an unknown cataclysm/someone who wanted to separate them (haven’t decided). So far, so cliché. But don’t worry. I try to put an original spin on all clichés.
During the time they were separated, the magical world, Orlornu, faced a deadly danger and so the Circle was created, a ruling council with absolute power composed of a male and a female of every race: elf, nymph, troll, pixie, ogre, vampire and more. The Circle managed to save Orlornu from destruction, but the power they wielded began to corrupt them. Within a century, they had almost total control of Orlornu, but they wanted more.
Some of the rebels who refused the Circle’s rule attempted to fight back, but most fled through discovered rifts in reality and arrived on Earth in the early 20th century. Since then, the rebels have slowly tried to convince humans of the coming fight while the Circle’s minions hunted each of them down. While the rebel’s numbers were slowly whittled down to less than a hundred, the Circle’s power somehow continued to grow. Now, as their invasion force numbers into the millions, they have almost enough power to start to directly affect Earth and cause chaos throughout the planet: alter human minds on an immense scale to tie them up in massive, senseless wars; alter Earth’s geography to cause volcanic eruptions under major cities or even, if they so chose, burn away the atmosphere entirely.
Kyle refuses to believe her at first, thinking her to be a crazy woman who somehow escaped the government’s records. But when Mala is attacked by the ogre who caused her so much damage before, he starts to realise the truth of what she said. But will he be able to fight against the magic slowly polluting the world?
The answer is obviously yes as he’s the main character. I just nicked part of this off of a blurb I once wrote for it. It was riddled with clichés like that. Try this one: “If he wants to survive, he must fight for everything he believes in before it is destroyed by everything he doesn’t believe in.” Clichéd or what? Sounds like a B-movie.
But anyway, the magic is sort of undefined. If you want to do something, you can do it, as long as you have the power and the will to do it. It seems like a deux ex machine, but the Circle are the ones with the real power, not the good guys. All of the races have magic with the possible exception of vampires and the like. They might have something else. Cloaking and disguising spells are the easiest, which is how everyone moves around Earth without detection. Fire magic is the most commonly used as it’s one of the easiest things to summon and control.
This leads to the only way to detect a cloaked/disguised person: infrared (also the title of the series). Under an infrared detector, the person shows up as pure white because of the energy of the fire magic inside them. They can contain it inside them so that they don’t burn anyone they touch (though their skin always feels hot), but they can’t control it enough to appear as anything other than white on infrared. On a related note, exactly what temperature is white on an infrared scanner? Because I may need to change this slightly if it’s stupidly hot.
Yes, I know this sounds so dreadful that I should probably just give up now, but a) it sounds far, far better in my head and b) I just want to give it a try anyway. But any other helpful hints? -
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If they're the only magical element in an otherwise realistic setting, I'd say Supernatural. If there are other magical elements, it's more fantasy.
Myself, I'd use LiveJournal. There are numerous fiction communities there. You might not get as many reviews as you would on FictionPress, but the overall quality of your fellow posters is much higher. -
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"If there are other magical elements, it's more fantasy."
There are other magical creatures and random magic, so yes. It's also got some sci-fi in.
"There are numerous fiction communities there."
You mean like Deletrius, but for actual fics rather than sporks? I thought Deletrius only had the last twenty or so things posted, though. So isn't that a bad idea if you're looking for readers? -
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"creative writing," "fantasy," or other similar things for Interests, you will find numerous comms where people post their work for others to read. These can be much better than FictionPress if you're looking for honest concrit rather than illiterate praise.
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Yep... by
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FF.net sure does like it's mindless praise, doesn't it? I came close to grovelling to the computer when I once got a good review.
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Fantasy, I think. by
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If they were, in fact, supernatural, or other elements in the story pushed it into the supernatural, that might be different. As in, if you actually were using the Norse roots. But if you're not, then I'd say probably fantasy.
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"As in, if you actually were using the Norse roots."
Elves are Norse? I thought they were German? I'm now picturing Elrond on a Viking ship. It's an odd image.
"I'm kind of afraid of that website because of the ties which link them to the Pit."
*shudders* The only reason that I go to FF.net is really because it's got the simplest interface that I've encountered. Is FP created by the same people, because the one time I went there, it seemed almost identical except for a red logo. -
Feanorians on a Viking ship a better image? (nm) by
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Huh? by
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I've never truly read LotR. I once got to Frodo's section of The Two Towers and then gave up. That was three years ago. I'm trying again and they've just left Caradhras. Feanor was the guy after the Silmarils that Morgoth/Melkor/89 other names stole, wasn't he?
And is it just me, or is LotR a songfic in disguise? I'm not talking about the songs themselves, but how they speak. "Better the orc you fear than the wolf you hear," for instance. It's like 'Once More, With Feeling', only without a tapdancing demon in it. -
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It's cool if LotR isn't your bag, but comparing the classic foundation of an entire genre of literature to common songfic is not going to sit well with many people here. Just so you know.
The following isn't personal, it's just me tangentially explaining what I think.
Language and thought are connected. There was a time when speech took as long as it needed to say what was meant, before TV and the Internet came and thoughts were reduced to sound bytes and then became as stunted as the contents of the average text message. Maybe there's no room for lyricism in modern language, but I, for one, think that's an unfortunate loss. How do you learn to think in beautiful language if you never experience it? What can we say about the contents of our thoughts if we can't express them with some finesse?
I'm not saying that all language should be flowery and poetic, because that gets annoying, but there's a big difference between a songficcer inserting lines of pop songs into their writing because they thought it would be cool, and Tolkien inventing a little rhyme because, for that moment in the story, it said exactly what he meant it to say. That's part of what makes a great writer, after all: The ability to impart great meaning with a few carefully chosen words.
I'm going to get off the soapbox, but I close with a quote from Charles de Lint's "The Conjure Man," which sums up what good writing is all about:
"The stories are just stories--they entertain, they make one laugh or cry--but if they have any worth, they carry within them a deeper resonance that remains long after the final page is turned, or the storyteller has come to the end of his or her tale. Both aspects of the story are necessary for it to have any worth."
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I think I love you. by
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(platonically, of course.)
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Yep by
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Yes, it is.
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Um... Hi by
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Hello all,
Back in the dawn of time- seriously, back when Jay and Acacia were still updating- I was part of these boards as "jedipati". I doubt any old timers would remember me, since I never really post anything of importance. Due to real life, I left in 2003 or early 2004 and only recently found out that the PPC was still active.
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Have a pair of ice-skates!
I'm desperate to ask what Jay and Acacia were like, if one can know someone over the internet, but I'm trying my hardest to be a good little fangirl and not pester the oldbie. :P
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this was several years ago, and I'm afraid I don't really remember
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Hallo! by
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I think I recall you too. *pokes cautiously* Box of biscuits? *offers said item*
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I think I've heard of you before. by
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Wow, you really make me feel like a newbie. Or maybe LVJ from HFA. Seriously. I'm not really babbling nonsense like an actual baby, but I still feel like one...
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I remember you! by
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Don't know if you remember me, but I definitely remember you being on the Board. High-five, old-timer!
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Have a ypur! by
on 2008-08-14 02:15:00 UTC
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Oh my God, a dinosaur. Why aren't you fossilized yet? *pokes suspiciously* At the very least you should've been stuck in a tar pit. Or frozen in a glacier.
...what I mean is, um, hi. And a Ypur is a furry blue yak thing with spiky horns and a taste for sausages, born from a spambot's typo. You can make scarves out of its hair if you want. -
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sometimes I feel pretty ancient. *grin*
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Spambot said "ypur pictures" instead of "your pictures"... by
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or something on those lines.
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I know I' already said hi on LJ but by
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welcome back to the Board! Have welcome-back lembas!
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Hello! by
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I gift you with a welcome back egg whisk, because everyone needs one. It's shiny, gold-plated, and whisks not only eggs, but spambots and author wraiths! Use it for good and not much evil.
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Welcome-back ketchup! by
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I already said hello on LJ, but I'm saying it again: Welcome back!
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Welcome back! by
on 2008-08-13 08:58:00 UTC
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Wow... compared to you I am among the newest of newbies. That aside, I gift you with your very own bag of pebbles for throwing at Sues and a Random Shiny Object for gazing at.
It's always nice to have new faces around, and I think you qualify as one :)
Refamiliarise away. The PC's been through some major upheavals since you left. -
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on 2008-08-13 15:45:00 UTC
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thank you!
Yes, just looking at things, I can tell they've changed. It's kind of like going back to a house you lived in when you were younger to find that the new owners remodeled. -
Welcome back! by
on 2008-08-13 08:37:00 UTC
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Have an iguana, since I wasn't around to give them out the first time.
Your name sounds familiar, perhaps we share livejournal friends. *is Elvenpiratelady over there* -
Re: Welcome back! by
on 2008-08-13 16:03:00 UTC
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And now that I think about it... your name is familiar too
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LJ by
on 2008-08-13 15:44:00 UTC
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it's possible. I'm also fairly active in the POTC fandom right now and somewhat less active in the Star Wars area.
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I already said it on LJ, but - WELCOME BACK! by
on 2008-08-13 07:51:00 UTC
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You won't know me, I'm sure, but that's okay. Nice to meet you!
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Have a welcome-back plover! by
on 2008-08-13 05:30:00 UTC
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I was still a Suethor then, but welcome back.
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Re: Have a welcome-back plover! by
on 2008-08-13 15:45:00 UTC
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I don't think I have agents. I'm civilian support, let's say.
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I remember you... I think... by
on 2008-08-13 03:56:00 UTC
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Anyways, though, welcome back!
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Hello again! by
on 2008-08-13 03:11:00 UTC
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I already gave you the wiki link, but once more won't hurt, right? XD
So once again, welcome back. ^^ -
Certainly not by
on 2008-08-13 03:12:00 UTC
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Thank you
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Crowning Moments of Awesome for the PPC (spoilers) by
on 2008-08-13 05:38:00 UTC
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I mean to collect a bunch for the appropriate page on the TVTropes wiki.
Off the (cluttered) top of my head, I recall Agent Blue Photon's fights with Twp'atwt and Agent Mara and Isaiah pitting FatPheonix and Helen!Sue against each other. I know there are others. -
Once again...I find myself utterly lost. Eru help me. (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 04:14:00 UTC
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Perhaps I can help, instead? by
on 2008-08-16 06:33:00 UTC
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I hope you are familiar with the concept of a wiki, because if you aren't, this explanation will make less sense to you.
There exists a wiki called "TV Tropes", which is devoted to collecting and, to a degree, analyzing "tropes" (basically, commonly-used concepts and methods of execution, such as shoulder angels/devils and genre savvy); despite its name, it accepts examples from anything, up to and including real life and fanfic. Since there is no such thing as notability on TV Tropes, examples don't even have to be from something widely known.
One of the tropes is the"Crowning Moment of Awesome", in which a character does something considerably more awesome than the norm; Vimes' rampage at the end of the Discworld book Thud is listed, if I remember correctly.
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I see... by
on 2008-08-16 18:12:00 UTC
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So did anyone create a list of the CMoAs for the PPC?
(CMoA= Crowning Moment of Awesome)
If you didn't, I'd suggest the time when Jay threatened to rewire her console into a programmable toaster. This CMoA is found in the TOS. -
Just be careful... by
on 2008-08-16 17:55:00 UTC
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TV Tropes is the sort of site that you visit with the intention of reading one or two pages and before you know it several hours have passed and you've got twenty+ tabs open. Plus it's rife with spoilers, but Tropers tend to be good at hiding them behind spoiler tags on the whole, so you don't have to see them if you don't want to.
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Thus the warning that was linked from the main page. by
on 2008-08-17 00:56:00 UTC
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Specifically, this one. (Well, last time I looked it was right up front. Someone appears to have taken it out. Ah, well, such is wiki.)
As for the second part, I am enough of a troper to know that the only proper response is "Two Words: Spoiler Hound".
Not that I am actually a spoiler hound in the typical sense of the term, but that's mostly for the same reason that I generally don't investigate fanfic for canons with which I'm unfamiliar; I find summaries unhelpful. Plus when I do investigate canons by such roundabout ways they tend to be ones that I can't get access to in their canonical forms. -
Pick a moment from the 2008 Mary Sue Invasion. by
on 2008-08-13 14:42:00 UTC
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Seriously, the whole thing was just one Crowning Moment of Awesome after another.
Relentless. -
I'm going with... by
on 2008-08-13 20:09:00 UTC
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...the destruction of the indestructible Centaur!Sue and the can-can line.
But then there are so many others... -
Definitely the can-can line. (nm) by
on 2008-08-13 21:44:00 UTC
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What about Dafydd's last stand? by
on 2008-08-13 13:56:00 UTC
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That was pretty awesome.
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Ooh, thirded. (nm) by
on 2008-08-13 20:09:00 UTC
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I second that. (nm) by
on 2008-08-13 14:14:00 UTC
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Help by
on 2008-08-13 06:53:00 UTC
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Right, in about twelve days I'm probably going to ask for permission and this is one of the pieces I may well use. Could someone BETA read this please.
http://midge-moha.livejournal.com/1844.html
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sure thing by
on 2008-08-13 17:10:00 UTC
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But betaing's easier with your email address...
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Thanks by
on 2008-08-13 20:22:00 UTC
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anonymous_wintershadow@hotmail.com
or
04mclellan.af@bloxhamschool.com
take your pick.
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Lookin' for volunteers... by
on 2008-08-13 07:43:00 UTC
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Two Agents with free time + sugar + the snaperrifle = insanity! Of course, this is the PPC.
So. I'm looking for volunteers to be shot by the snaperrifle. Any volunteers? XD -
Agent Sedri asks: ''What exactly does it DO?'' (nm) by
on 2008-08-14 00:12:00 UTC
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Agent Sara says: "You'll have to find out! *evil laughter*" (nm) by
on 2008-08-14 04:09:00 UTC
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*thinks* ... You can test it on Iza! by
on 2008-08-14 05:00:00 UTC
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Iza: HEY!
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you can use Trojie, Gypsy, Lasa or Mombi if you want (nm) by
on 2008-08-13 22:55:00 UTC
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Tawaki. by
on 2008-08-13 16:25:00 UTC
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One word: Bloodwrath.
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I volunteer Michel! by
on 2008-08-13 12:43:00 UTC
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He hasn't yet gotten used to some of the weirder aspects of the PPC...the snaperrifle will utterly freak him out. He may start hitting things, and he may become convinced that this is somehow Maria's fault.
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*sigh* I'm gonna regret this, but... by
on 2008-08-13 09:06:00 UTC
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you can have Cassie, Nat or Tyler.
Cassie might not realise straight away, but when she does she'll panic and ask everyone in range what to do. Nat will realise that instant, and she'll go methodically berserk. As in, hunt down whoever did it and threaten them (maybe even get a little violent) till they change her back. Tyler would just be bewildered, and probably try to take the snaperrifle to DoSAT for examination. -
Forgot to mention... by
on 2008-08-13 11:53:00 UTC
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The reason I said I'd regret it is because they'd come after me with volent intentions in revenge for my volunteering them. I'd love to see what happens.
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I volunteer Agents Arti or Lunac! by
on 2008-08-13 08:01:00 UTC
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It's really up to you. Lunac is more straightlaced, so if he got shot with sugar, he'd really let loose for once. But if it were Arti, considering he's many-times over insane, having just turned much of the PPC temporarily into females, then you're asking for insanity in epic proportions. Anyways, either is free for you to use.
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Paging the DBS! by
on 2008-08-13 21:17:00 UTC
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BeddingSirrus and Achenar wake up and wonder just what happened before they went to sleep and how they got that makeup on them. One-poster/short story. Written: 02/13/07
Complete - Myst/Riven - Fiction Rated: T - English - Family/General - Chapters: 1 - Words: 1,692 - Reviews: 0 - Updated: 7-15-08 - Published: 7-15-08
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Re: Paging the DBS! by
on 2008-08-14 16:31:00 UTC
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admittedly, I'm a little fuzzy on the details of Myst, but aren't Sirrus (is that even the right spelling?) and Achenar brothers? the author shouldn't put this one under "family/general" if I'm right.
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Indeed they are. (nm) by
on 2008-08-14 19:54:00 UTC
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I second that WTF by
on 2008-08-13 22:40:00 UTC
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"Family/General" is not quite the genre I'd have put that thing in.
Unfortunately, the canon is wholly unknown to me, and, I think, to Trojie too. -
me too ... unfortunately (nm) by
on 2008-08-13 22:54:00 UTC
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Calling voice actors for PPC Movie "There Will Be Glitter" by
on 2008-08-13 23:40:00 UTC
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These people still have to send their recorded lines in for cutting together. A note to everyone: plase make sure your files are sent as MP3s, NOT any other kind of files- especially .aups. Trojie's computer does not like .aups, and as she is the sound technician, please make things easier for her.
Send the lines to her at trojanhorseshadowfax at gmail dot com.
Adagio
Anjilly
Ansela
Artic Blade
BattleHamster
BeetleFire
Chatvert
Crystal
Elcalion
Fichunter
Fynn
insanegrrl
Jai
just_theDoctor
Laburnum
Leto Haven (hasn't sent Lucien lines yet, and has only sent .aups)
lynxihez
Neshomeh
Oozaru Angel
Paddlebrains
Pigeonarmy
Platinumyo
Rohirric Monkey
Sedri
Trojanhorse
wingnut
If you have not yet received your scripts, or have other enquiries, contact either Trojie or myself. My contact details are cassie.dramateacher at either gmail.com or yahoo.co.uk. -
Sorry by
on 2008-08-17 03:07:00 UTC
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Sorry
All My files are .wav-s.
And The Mp3 player I use to record is hard to work with.
Could someone post a converter? It would go a long way toward getting these lines in. -
send em to me anyway and I'll do it by
on 2008-08-17 04:00:00 UTC
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I can manage .wav and .wma I think, it's just .aup that I can't use because Audacity requires the entire project data file to go with it.
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THANKS (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 15:53:00 UTC
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Ahh, sorry. by
on 2008-08-16 12:39:00 UTC
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Should be recording mine today.
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Also...*is about to sound really stupid* by
on 2008-08-16 12:46:00 UTC
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The Pipe-weed. Is it 'male' or 'female'?
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Good question. The answer is, we don't know. by
on 2008-08-16 12:59:00 UTC
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However, unless Tawaki declares otherwise, we will assume that it never revealed its "gender". Thereby sidestepping the problem of male/female vocal actors. The Flowers have not really been assigned on basis of genders, as we have so few male vocalists. For example, Captain Dandy, whom we know is male, is being voiced by Oozaru Angel.
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OK, thanks. by
on 2008-08-16 13:19:00 UTC
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Off to record now! :D
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Waiiiiit? You guys have a movie? by
on 2008-08-16 04:02:00 UTC
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I never knew that...*sulks* I always miss out on the good stuff.
I play piano and sing...maybe I could do soundtracks or something? (But then I'd have to do something regarding recording...)
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If you want to be involved ... by
on 2008-08-16 06:48:00 UTC
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... we could probably use another voice actor (which would require recording capabilities, yes) or an artist, or especially an animator!
The movie 'There Will Be Glitter' describes the happenings of the 2008 Mary Sue Invasion of PPC HQ (look it up on the wiki, it gives a summary of events) and the script is adapted from the roleplay of that event that took place on the Board last April. -
Okay...another question. by
on 2008-08-16 18:40:00 UTC
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How do you guys record your stuff? Is there a specific recording thingy that'll put it into an mp3 file? Where can you get it?
And since I'm also considering doing art, what kind of file does it have to be in? And ditto goes for animating.
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We're mostly using Audacity to record by
on 2008-08-16 22:33:00 UTC
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It can be downloaded for free here: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
Art we haven't started work on yet, so I'm not sure what file format we will be after, and the animation will probably be 2D Flash animation. But as I say, work hasn't started on the art/animation side, so any suggestions, pointers or people with Da Knowledge plz come forward! -
I'd love to sign up. I'm no animator but I can draw, too. by
on 2008-08-16 18:18:00 UTC
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Is there a 'fic based off of the MS invasion? I need to get a proper "feel" of things.
And I'm more comfortable with the anime style, so that might pop up once in a while...that is, if I'm contributing art. My art teacher is a animator at Dreamworks, and I'll ask him for help. -
there's no fic but ... by
on 2008-08-16 22:34:00 UTC
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the RP we did has been adapted into a script which I could send you the current working copy of if you'd like. Email me at trojanhorseshadowfax AT gmail DOT com
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Heeeeey...you beat me to it! (Oh, and Lily...) by
on 2008-08-16 10:14:00 UTC
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*to Trojie* Not that I mind in the slightest. I just love the chance to ramble about it.
*to Lily* We (or rather I, as I seem to do most of the liaising with the Board) have been posting about the Movie since June 3rd and have posted several times about it since then. I'm sure I've seen your name around those posts before, but my memory isn't always the best.
As Trojie said, you are very welcome to join in. Artistic and animatory talents would be especially appreciated, as we have a very small number of either. -
Thanks! I haven't noticed much about a movie... by
on 2008-08-16 18:20:00 UTC
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Or else I'd wouldn't be asking this late into the season.
Yayyyy! -
Sent. by
on 2008-08-14 22:10:00 UTC
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Trojie should have my lines in her inbox.
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No need for all these apologies, everyone... by
on 2008-08-14 08:27:00 UTC
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I was just posting as a reminder to mke sure everyone wouldn't forget. We don't have any rush. There is NO deadline.
I'll just be posting a reminder, maybe once every two to three weeks, with an updated list of who's handed in their lines. It's a memory jog for the people whose memories aren't too good, not an accusation or a request to hurry up or anything. -
*reminds self to poke Dad when necessary* by
on 2008-08-14 02:12:00 UTC
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Sorry, my memory is sort of shot to hell...
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Sorry, sorry! by
on 2008-08-14 01:15:00 UTC
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Got them recorded, only to realize that they're in .wma. Which is unhelpful. Just need to figure out how to either convert or how to record in mp3.
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I think I can manage .wma by
on 2008-08-14 02:20:00 UTC
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send them to me and I'll see what I can do. It's just .aup that I have a problem with because without the entire data folder that Audacity makes with each .aup I can't open it.
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Eh, managed to get 'em converted. by
on 2008-08-14 03:22:00 UTC
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Which is good and probably more convenient. I'll be mailing them soon!
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awesome! by
on 2008-08-14 03:25:00 UTC
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I'm looking forward to hearing them!
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Re: Calling voice actors for PPC Movie "There Will Be Glitter" by
on 2008-08-14 00:21:00 UTC
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I just finished the final exam for this half of the trimester last night, so I should be able to do at least two characters in the next two nights. At the very latest, you'll have them by the end of next week.
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Noted. "Regular pokeage for Pigeon" is now in diary. :) by
on 2008-08-14 00:36:00 UTC
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Only kidding. I'll post on the Board every now and then. And if I get any notes from Trojie I'll add them. Plus, anyone who is on my MSN or other messengers will receive innocent, completely unpressuring enquiries into how they're doing with their lines.
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Sorry I've been held up. by
on 2008-08-14 00:20:00 UTC
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Job searching, working on OFUR alone since Kit was busy with his exams, and lack of a functioning mike kind of got in the way. I will get it done ASAP.
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sorry cass by
on 2008-08-14 00:09:00 UTC
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i'll get mine to you as soon as possible. it'll have to wait until i have complete use of my hand though, since i need to move things to plug my headset in.
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Nobody's rushing anyone. by
on 2008-08-14 00:33:00 UTC
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I just posted a reminder to nudge people a bit. I'll be doing that periodically, hopefully with a smaller list each time.
But no rush. We have no deadlines to make, seeing as this is a community effort and we have to fit around everyone else's lives.
You take as long as you need to. -
a busted hand means you is forgiven :) (nm) by
on 2008-08-14 00:13:00 UTC
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*is confused* I sent mine weeks ago by
on 2008-08-13 23:47:00 UTC
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And to Trojie's gmail address, too. Odd. I'll send them again, I suppose - it'll have to wait a few hours until I get home from class, though.
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Update: recheck with Trojie. by
on 2008-08-13 23:51:00 UTC
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Anjilly and Sedri, yours are in. Don't panic, she has them.
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*stops panicking* Good to hear. (nm) by
on 2008-08-14 00:20:00 UTC
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Vancouver Gathering - 15th August by
on 2008-08-15 01:17:00 UTC
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Can anyone remember the exact details for this - i.e what time we're supposed to be meeting?
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Inquiring Minds Want To Know by
on 2008-08-15 01:19:00 UTC
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Also - should Le Jai bring a cardboard sign? Y/N?
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Yes. by
on 2008-08-15 04:48:00 UTC
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Just for the sake of those of us who will be looking at the pictures that you WILL take. XD
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Question About Claiming a Certain Fic by
on 2008-08-15 05:35:00 UTC
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I'm sure a number of people have read the Harry Potter fic 'My Immortal.' It got hacked by someone, as it was quite obviously a troll. I'm interested in taking this nd working on it with a soon-to-be PPCer, but I'm not sure if I should, or just leave it there with the glory of being hacked untouched.
Anyone got any ideas? It's a pretty bad fic, with droves of minis, but the hacking is just...just. See the conundrum?
(Link for anyone who wants to see: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/1/My_Immortal . Hacking is in chapter 39.) -
I think it's already been PPC'd. by
on 2008-08-17 03:36:00 UTC
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I checked it out about a onth or so ago, wanting to know if it had been sporked. I'm pretty sure it was killed by Agent Daffyd. I might be wrong, but you should probably check that out.
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My Immortal is a troll fic. by
on 2008-08-16 04:44:00 UTC
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Wasn't hacked, it's just part of an epic trolling.
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I would love to see that "goffik gurl" brought to justice. by
on 2008-08-16 04:12:00 UTC
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Because, after all, My Immortal doesn't get a Legendary Badfic label for nothing. I'd love to see Ebony Whats-her-face murdered. But I'd also fear for your Agent's(or is it s'?) sanity, so...good luck with that. Maybe Upstairs will grant you a vacation after the mission.
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It's settled then. by
on 2008-08-16 04:21:00 UTC
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Yes, well, it'll be the second of two very....long fics that I will be taking on. I'll have Agents in Bad Slash and DTE in the near future as well, so they'll be around to help out.
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Funny, I can't remember the definition myself. by
on 2008-08-16 05:33:00 UTC
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I think it sounds nice, doesn't it? And compassionate, and wonderful. Hah.
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*headdesk* by
on 2008-08-15 16:34:00 UTC
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Every time I see it, I click it. And every time, I wind up hitting my head on something. Ugh. It's hard to believe someone might be writing it seriously.
The hacking is... okay, I guess; kinda interesting. But I'd also be very, very interested to see the trauma inflicted upon the poor Agents who have to kill it.
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Eh heh. by
on 2008-08-15 19:22:00 UTC
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That lucky person would be me. Actually, it was my idea in the first place. I read the fic and... a part of me died.
Also, the hacking was for one chapter, and the original of said chapter is still there, below the hack. -
* nod * by
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It would be rather traumatic, wouldn't it, troll or not? There would be much Bleeprin required.
Actually, she just introduced herself. * points up * The Mad Hattie. I figure she's got a great sense of humor, so she can get a feel for mission writing before diving into the deep end. She'd be giving input, and maybe get an Agent cameo to get a feel for it all.
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Duuuude, I had a mission! by
on 2008-08-15 09:19:00 UTC
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http://www.freewebs.com/ppc23/prequelmissionlog1.htm
Actually, I've decided to work on the "Prequels," the adventures of Agent Glass in the English Classics continuum, when she had no partner and little contact with HQ. First one of those is up, the disposal of Morgain, who wants to relieve Don Pedro of "Much Ado About Nothing" of his bachelorhood. Suggestions for improvement are welcome, as I don't think it turned out very funny... But it's done! Huzzah! -
You knowÂ… by
on 2008-08-15 16:28:00 UTC
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…Shakespeare badfic makes the Bard spin in his grave, right? And when anyone makes Shakespeare spin in his grave that's moving his bones, right?
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Oooh... by
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Nice stanza... I should try to come up with a poetic death (or at least a poetic epigram) for the next one(s), but I just needed that one to go away quickly.
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Very nice. : ) by
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And I think it was plenty funny. Poor Agent Glass... at least the mission went off mostly hitch-less.
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Yup. by
on 2008-08-16 09:10:00 UTC
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Shakespeare 'Sues appear to show up most frequently in Romeo and Juliet 'fic, but the Goddess Diana may need to be dissuaded from redeeming/saving MacBeth at some point.
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*claps* by
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I thought it was very funny. It can be really hard to write solo missions, but you pulled it off very well.
I can't believe there's Sues for "Much Ado About Nothing." That's just...gyah. Well slain. -
Thanks very much. by
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I may need to pull in a friend as an outside consultant on the next one as he has a longbow and there are three of them, but we'll see how things go with the rest of the solos. I don't get to make up nearly as much silly dialog, I found.
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There's a great film version? by
on 2008-08-16 15:59:00 UTC
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I did not know this. Who's in it?
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Er...let me check. by
on 2008-08-17 06:57:00 UTC
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Oh, yeah. It's the Kenneth Branagh one--I thought it was really cool. Branagh, Kate Beckinsale, Emma Thompson, Denzel Washington as Don Pedro, Keanu Reeves as a surprisingly well done Don John. Michael Keaton is Dogberry. It's amusing, veeeery pretty, in line with the script, and has great music. I can't say much about the costuming, as it's been a while since I watched it and I don't really remember.
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I'll have to check it out. (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 17:25:00 UTC
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I like it! by
on 2008-08-15 11:16:00 UTC
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How dare a Sue mess with Shakespeare like that? And her backstory was so ... dumb ...
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Thanks by
on 2008-08-16 09:07:00 UTC
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The author was old enough to do proper research too, which annoys me. Messing with Shakespeare and Ireland in one go, what else could I do.
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Mission Plug! by
on 2008-08-15 18:35:00 UTC
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The first mission of Agent Rouge and Michel Javert, Department of Bad Slash, set before Michel meets Maria. Betaed by Chatvert.
http://agent-tomato.livejournal.com/14496.html
http://agent-tomato.livejournal.com/14836.html
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Jumping in with both feet! by
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I figured, after being introduced to a member, "why the crap not?" and posted. I'm mainly into old stuff; Nuku Nuku, the old Slayers stuff (haven't seen Revolution yet), Heinlein's writings (good luck finding 'fic in THAT 'verse), and so on, but I can fake it with pretty much anything. To get things started off right, I also offer the assembled a collection of Blatant Gary Stu that is only made worse for how well-written it is.
http://zeus.cwes.net/~yar/fanfic/ornstead.html
I do rather hope that this goes over well, but if it doesn't I suppose I lose nothing that I already had.
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Anti-Lustin roses, you'll need them. (nm) by
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"Lustin"? (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 18:29:00 UTC
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Re: "Lustin"? by
on 2008-08-16 19:36:00 UTC
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Anti-Lustin is a PPC medication that stops the production of a hormone, Lustin, which is responsible for the stampeding/glomping/drooling over of Lust Objects.
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Hi! Have a pair of ice-skates! by
on 2008-08-16 12:54:00 UTC
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I'm stoopidly late, but hey!
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You can has iguana! by
on 2008-08-16 08:08:00 UTC
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Argh, no more lolcat for me, I think. Welcome to the PPC!
On a completely unrelated note, you have possibly the best name for Scrabble I've ever seen. 13 points! -
Re: You can has iguana! by
on 2008-08-16 18:29:00 UTC
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Thanks; it's actually part of a plot to subvert peoples' expectations. I get them to associate "Valgaav" with the notably female me, then tell them to watch Slayers, where the guy I grabbed the name from is very noticeably male.
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Welcome! Have a.... SOUP CAN! by
on 2008-08-16 07:21:00 UTC
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...because I can't think of anything better. *is sheepish*
Ah, well. Welcome! Good to meet you!
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Hey there! Have some lembas! by
on 2008-08-16 06:46:00 UTC
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It's a tasty baked treat, unless you've been warped by carrying an artefact of Ultimate Evil ... which I'm sure you haven't.
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Re: Hey there! Have some lembas! by
on 2008-08-16 07:09:00 UTC
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aah, yes, Lembas. Trail Mix from Tolkien's 'verse, and about as dry as his writing.
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er. dry? I was going for nutritious and delicious by
on 2008-08-16 22:22:00 UTC
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in which case it IS like his writing.
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Well, it's also witty in some areas! by
on 2008-08-16 18:32:00 UTC
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Some of the canonicals say such stupid lines that it's hilarious! I mean, an good-turned evil wizard claims he's Many-Colored when he used to be white, and all his former colleague can say is, "I like white better." ! And Legolas has this really stupid line where he thinks the hobbits grew wings. And--ok, I'll stop rambling now.
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Not sure if Plat or Cassie mentioned.. by
on 2008-08-16 07:29:00 UTC
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But most people on the Board like Tolkien's work.
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I did poke her to read the Constitution... by
on 2008-08-16 10:20:00 UTC
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However, our definition of Assassin seemed to make her twitch, and I'm not sure if she finished reading it.
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Hallo, and welcome! by
on 2008-08-16 05:41:00 UTC
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What 'verse did Heinlein write?
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Re: Hallo, and welcome! by
on 2008-08-16 07:08:00 UTC
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Future History's his most famous, though he'll admit in his own books to writing a number of them for the money.
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I bestow unto thee Ray-dee-oh-ack-tive Pow-dah. by
on 2008-08-16 04:08:00 UTC
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Use it to melt 'Sues. Literally.
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Welcome! by
on 2008-08-16 03:21:00 UTC
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Slayers AND Heinlein? I think I'm in love... Platonically, of course.
Here, have a spatula, since people have already given you the spork and the whisk. -
Re: Welcome! by
on 2008-08-16 03:44:00 UTC
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Spatulas and Sporks have always made me twitch as the epitome of "OMG SO RANDUUUUM XD" style random, but thank you. Any word on when Xellos will be showing up in the new series?
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*shrug* by
on 2008-08-16 03:49:00 UTC
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Well, we're a little odd here. It's like SpecOps in the Thursday Next books.
Not a clue. He ought to show up eventually...
Looks from the opening sequence like they're going to be working with the storyline from volume five at least... How they're going to do it without Mazenda, I'm not sure. Not to mention that the "Lina can't use magic" twist has been done to death by now. -
Re: *shrug* by
on 2008-08-16 04:27:00 UTC
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Sure, the "Lina can't use magic" twist has been done, but it HAS to be done, or she fires off a giant ball of "I win".
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Good point. by
on 2008-08-16 04:30:00 UTC
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I still wonder how we'd manage it since we killed off Mazenda in NEXT, though. Though I suppose if we're just using the "Zanafar reborn" part (please pardon my lack of double letters, I always have trouble figuring out where those things go in proper names in Slayers)...
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So do the authors. (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 06:00:00 UTC
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HEINLEIN! by
on 2008-08-16 02:28:00 UTC
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*platonic glompage*
So which ones d'you like? I became mildly (okay, extremely) obsessed with Tunnel in the Sky around third or fourth grade. (I think I even created some fic in my head but abandoned it within a few hours. Such was the workings of my mind in those days. :P)
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Oh, crap... by
on 2008-08-16 02:30:00 UTC
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I totally forgot to give you a ypur. Here. It's a yak, except blue and spiky-horned and sausage-eating. To save time and energy shearing them, you get a scarf as well. Nice and fluffy, but tends to smother if you wear it over your face.
It was born from a spambot's typo, and as such relishes the taste of their flesh.
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on 2008-08-16 03:43:00 UTC
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> that sounded kinda completely wrong
JUST A LITTLE.
That said, pretty much most of his Lazarus Long stuff. Sure, he's blatant SI before SI was a problem, but cursed be if he isn't fun to read. -
First plover! (nm) by
on 2008-08-15 21:04:00 UTC
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Hi by
on 2008-08-15 19:56:00 UTC
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Have a P-90. It's very good for killing Sues with. I see July has already given you a link to the Wiki.
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Hiya! by
on 2008-08-15 19:55:00 UTC
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I gift you with an egg whisk! It's shiny, gold-plated, and it whisks spambots, author wraiths, and eggs! Use it for good and not
muchevil.
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It's a very small world after all. by
on 2008-08-15 19:34:00 UTC
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*slightly boggling*
How'd you end up here, outta curiosity? Plat?
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Re: It's a very small world after all. by
on 2008-08-15 19:46:00 UTC
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Plat introduced me to Cass, who I strongarmed into telling me about this place.
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Yeah, right. by
on 2008-08-15 19:58:00 UTC
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One hint she was interested and I was off. Hardly strongarming.
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Re: Yeah, right. by
on 2008-08-15 19:59:00 UTC
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I'm good at subtly strongarming people!
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Which, I promise you, is true. (nm) by
on 2008-08-15 20:14:00 UTC
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First ketchup! by
on 2008-08-15 19:28:00 UTC
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Welcome! I give you...a shrubbery!
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Re: First ketchup! by
on 2008-08-15 19:31:00 UTC
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Given the matter in the original material? Yes, actually.
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Aloha! by
on 2008-08-15 19:19:00 UTC
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Hi there! Welcome welcome. Have a spork and some duct tape, and good wishes and luck for the future.
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Welcomes, Val! by
on 2008-08-15 18:50:00 UTC
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Of course, I know you already, but welcome to the Board!
I present you with your very own bag of pebbles for throwing at Sues and a Random Shiny Object for gazing at.
I shall refrain from going on too much, as I can get over-enthusiastic in my greetings, but I am sure that people will be along shortly to give you the usual links and newbie-presents. -
Re: Welcomes, Val! by
on 2008-08-15 18:57:00 UTC
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But...wouldn't the Sues just be too OMG PERFECT for the pebbles to touch them?
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Nope. PPC pebbles. (nm) by
on 2008-08-15 19:54:00 UTC
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Kingdom Hearts crap by
on 2008-08-15 18:43:00 UTC
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I recently deleted some entries from the Unclaimed Badfic section of the Wiki because it wasn't brought up here. They're actually my particular stories, which can be found at:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4300069/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4390189/1/
I'd like to think that I carefully constructed the stories. I wrote all ~25,000 and ~30,000 respective words before publishing anything and did several proofreading passes by both myself and other people. I also paid careful attention to detail to avoid a lot of pitfalls and pretty specifically synthesized one key character as a parody of Mary Sue (as in... an anvil to the head blatant parody) while betraying the whole underlying mechanic that makes the character type offensive. I certainly didn't just type it all out after earing a scoop of sugar and post it as is.
However, I'm a good sport and I won't deny that the stories are, by and large, dull and uninteresting (if carefully written). Being brought up at the PPC Wiki gave me an idea for a particular story, though. What if instead of just another perfunctory assassination, the PPC as a whole has to deal with a particularly intelligent, self-aware, genre savvy, and very dangerous individual bent on destroying them? It would obviously end with the PPC's victory (status quo is god, after all), but for the story, I'll need some C-list fodder. Agents to be killed/injured/stranded in the middle of nowhere/brainwashed/turned into sharks/etc. It would be a several story deal and overlap with other fanfiction assignments. Anyone have any interest in this? -
I thinkÂ… by
on 2008-08-18 09:17:00 UTC
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The PPC might have enough opponents.
The idea has come up before, too, though it doesn't appear to have been continued past the second chapter- Ashes to Glory, archived about half-way down here. I don't know… maybe it's not a project for one person. Might have potential as an RP, but I'm not much of a fan of the fodder idea. I understand you mean characters who aren't much liked any more by their creators, but… it seems off, to me. *shrugs* I'm not sure about this. -
Long reply is long. by
on 2008-08-17 00:21:00 UTC
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Before I say anything, I'm just going to point this out. This is my opinion. No one else's, this isn't Official, hell, let's say this really isn't even PPC related, yeah?
Let's just pretend this is me and you.
I'd like to know what made you think that you could delete some entries off of the wiki's badfic list since they weren't "brought up here". See, there's thing about a wiki. Anyone can add anything. And anyone can delete it, too. But the thing is, no one needs damn permission or needs to give notification to add something to it. So I don't see why you saw the need to give that reason. By and large, your reason for taking those off? Excuse. Bad excuse. To me, all that first sentence of yours says is "BAWWWW. SOMEONE HURT MY FEELINGS.". I'd have to say that it's probably bad manners for the author of whatever was posted up there to remove it his or herself, that should be something a third party does.
People can take a fic off that list if they think it doesn't belong there if they have a look. Some of those fics? They probably don't deserve to be up there. After all, a lot of those were probably added after a look at the summary and a cursory look at the the first chapter or so. Maybe even less.
If someone added it there because they have a grudge with you, well, that's between them and you. Leave the PPC out of it. Getting other parties involved in a two way arguement just leads to more problems. So stop that garbage NOW.
And okay, so you think your fic is okay. You think it's written well technically, but you're thinking it's boring. You wrote it, you completed it. FANTASTIC. Unfortunately, it's not really your opinion that matters if you put it online for others to read, is it? It's the readers that decide if a story is good or not, if they think the writing is good or not, and so forth. All the proofreading in the world is not going to change that. And putting down the word you think it's boring too? That's not how it works. You do your best to make a good story, and good stories are not 'dull and uninteresting'. And as the Trojanhorse said, parody Mary Sues are difficult. It's hard to carry a parody off properly no matter what. Parody and satire are dangerous beasts, and people can and will read them improperly and your 'parody' Sue is going to be just a Sue. They're going to take it at FACE VALUE.
And hip hip hurrah, you want to write a PPC emergency where the PPC has to deal with destruction coming from within or without by a person or persons that know how stories work and are intelligent. Shall I point you to Huinesoron's Reorganisation? Or the as of yet uncompleted Crashing Down? How about Tawaki's subplot that involves Big Brother? And on the subject of normal characters being turned into Mary Sues, there's Suedom. And this is the stuff that's on the top of my head, there's probably quite a bit more out there.
Also, C-List? There are no 'C-List' Agents. There are Agents still used by their creators. There are Agents that have officialy retired. There are Agents that are in that limbo of being unwritten since their creators left and might return, or not. Thinking of any character as being C-List isn't right, because you know something? This is a shared verse. What I might think of a C-List Agent is right at the top of someone else's A-List.
And what would happen if someone came back, wanting to write a mission with their old Agents, and got told, 'Oh, sorry, you weren't around anymore, so we figured it'd be okay to use your old Agent as a dramatic sacrifice basically since we didn't think you'd ever come back'.
Killing off someone's character is not cool unless you have permission from them and you're totally sure they'd be okay with it. Plenty of us have made characters purely for being 'Red Shirts'.
And you don't think any of us have thought about the 'oh, wait, won't my character be a Mary Sue' issue? I promise you, quite a few of us have. And the thing is, most of us succeeed at preventing our characters from being Mary Sues.
Want to know how?
Because the PPC is, first and foremost, just a humor thing. It's a shared universe, and it has its serious moments, but for the most part, the PPC is comedy. While the characters might not get into serious trouble or mess totally up, it's because there's only so far you can go before it is no longer Funny. Everyone asks themselves, how much humor can we get out of this happening to this character? How bad can my character screw up without getting hurt or waist deep in serious trouble?
And as to Mary Sues in the PPC? Some of them are ex-Mary Sues. And others, well, you saw the DIO page, didn't you? -
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on 2008-08-17 02:14:00 UTC
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I took it off because it was just a pathetic attempt at trolling by somebody that didn't bother to read them (hell, the person doesn't even participate in anything related to fanfiction at all and had to ask around to find places like this) and just wanted to get a rise out of me. I know all this because the person directly told me what they did, not out of guesswork. I mean, honestly... if every petty grudge that somebody holds involves doing everything they can to discredit them (including posting stuff they've written on this website)... this website would just be little more than a mirror for every single fanfiction website in existence. This website has better standards than that and I don't want to subject it to this irrelevant crap.
Also, if I were some asshole, I'd have just deleted the entries without saying a word (I wouldn't have bothered to post here, since I'm smarter than to call attention to what is most likely just a minor, unnoticed blip in the edit history). However, rather than acting like some thin-skinned egotist, I instead decided to take it in good humor and offer suggestions and material to maximize extracting the parody out of the stories. I'm being constructive in my whole intrusion, not destructive. I like the concept of the PPC and even though the circumstances behind this proposed idea is a bit... I don't know, crappy, I don't want to unjustly rob potential material because some troll involved this website.
Anyway, I wasn't asking for people's characters without their permission. I would not only want the full permission of the owners, but also for them to write their own actions and dialogue (even if they're ultimately railroaded into a certain conclusion... but they would know what that is going into it, regardless). I don't like the whole concept of making red shirts because honestly... they hold no impact (dramatic, comedic, or otherwise) and are just too easy to spot. "Agent Williams, fresh from training, gets sent to investigate a disappearance within a recently scorched continuity." Yeah, good luck getting any emotional involvement out of that. Audience tunes out and just waits for the inevitable to happen so they can absorb whatever forced plot detail comes out of it, all the while wishing for somebody more interesting to come to the forefront.
Anyway, I'll admit that I haven't fully read the works in question. I did, however, read the timeline, all the Emergencies, and most of the links within them. I saw a bit of a gap I offered to fill. Maybe it's just an issue with the way the website is written, but honestly... there doesn't seem to be any real chessmaster style character with a penchant for manipulating everybody and leaving a trail of irony behind. There are corrupt bureaucrats, enemy commanders, card carrying villains, and such, but nothing that really seemed like a subversive threat that worked based on manipulating all circumstances around them while setting up a whole lot of messages and imagery meant to dismay, discredit, and otherwise just destroy the morale of the organization (all the while leaving behind run-on sentences). Still, it's up to everybody if they would like to see this and I certainly don't want to go forward without at least about four other people contributing to it.
I apologize if anything I've posted seemed prudish (I certainly don't want to give off that sort of vibe). I'm certainly not saying I'm immune to this website and if somebody wants to use my stories for material, I'm all for it. Hell, here's a link to my profile:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1579216/EtherealMutation
Feel free to add whatever you want from it to the unclaimed badfic (provided that it's actually, well, usable... as mentioned, parodying parody generally negates the whole purpose and I certainly didn't just mash anything out in short order). I suggest the aptly named "Destroyers of Continuity" as a prime resource (although it, also, is a parody, it has such incredible corniness that could be extracted). Hell, feel free to add me as a target or whatever. I'd prefer that I be consulted with so that a certain amount of "realism" can be acheived, but so long as it isn't libelous (and my standards for "libel" are really, really, really high, so I doubt a comedic website would ever get anywhere close), I'm all for anything. In the end, it's all publicity anyway (I guess I shouldn't have said that... damnit, there goes my diabolical plan to draw in readers). -
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Yes by
on 2008-08-17 06:15:00 UTC
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Yes, I read it... I made plenty of references to the post and don't know how much more clear I could have been. I don't know. I guess since even just responding to this two and a half sentence post in any measure is sort of making me look like a jackass, I may as well address parts of the earlier post that particularly bugged me:
"Excuse. Bad excuse. To me, all that first sentence of yours says is "BAWWWW. SOMEONE HURT MY FEELINGS.""
Except, as I mentioned, that isn't the reason I took it off in the first place (and the reason I took it off is neither an excuse by any measure nor about me, personally). If it was, why would I then willfully describe my work as crap (which, by the way, is still subjective just as how somebody calling themselves the greatest writer ever is obviously subjective, but I honestly do think that my concepts for the two stories just turned out to be crap in execution and ultimately not very funny), then go to great length offering to rip apart all of my own work (and, indeed, my own damn -persona-) if all this was about my "feelings being hurt"? Shouldn't I just edit it out and hope nobody notices if that's the case? Or, failing that intelligence check, write some scathing post decrying the website for its "unfair" treatment of me by proxy? Well, one interpretation (which I jokingly alluded to) is that I'm doing this for publicity (honestly... I'd rather be obscure than hated), but the real reason is because I am not Anne Rice, Tim Buckley, or David Gonterman and I have an actual sense of humor about myself and my creations. I don't treat anything I write as serious.
"If someone added it there because they have a grudge with you, well, that's between them and you. Leave the PPC out of it. Getting other parties involved in a two way arguement just leads to more problems. So stop that garbage NOW."
There is no addition to the argument. As I mentioned, I brought this up simply because I wanted to contribute. The other asshole of this "feud" (I can't adequately explain how retarded this person's motives were if I tried) just used the PPC website as little more than a tool to make a "point". Is that really a justifiable use of the website? I certainly hope not, lest it undermine the whole concept.
"Unfortunately, it's not really your opinion that matters if you put it online for others to read, is it?"
Of course it's not my opinion that ultimately matters. Two things, though. First, the person that person added the stories did it for all the wrong reasons (as mentioned in earlier posts and this one) and I'd rather not let other people get involved in this petty crap (you know, the thing that I'm being accused of here). Second:
"It's hard to carry a parody off properly no matter what. Parody and satire are dangerous beasts, and people can and will read them improperly and your 'parody' Sue is going to be just a Sue. They're going to take it at FACE VALUE."
I won't deny that parody is hard to pull off properly. While obviously, any character whatsoever can be interpreted as a Mary Sue (the term is pretty much just a dead horse that translates into "character I don't like" at this point, but I like to pretend it still means something specific). However, as I mentioned, using pretty much any real objective standard of Mary Sue (you know... a character that the author is obviously playing favorites with and bends the universe around) would not have the character come back as such. The PPC website, itself, would vindicate the character. I can argue that point forever. I'm not saying it's a good character (oh, no, not at all. I hate the C unmentionable). It's just not a Mary Sue by any real definition.
"Also, C-List? There are no 'C-List' Agents. There are Agents still used by their creators. There are Agents that have officialy retired. There are Agents that are in that limbo of being unwritten since their creators left and might return, or not. Thinking of any character as being C-List isn't right, because you know something? This is a shared verse. What I might think of a C-List Agent is right at the top of someone else's A-List."
I guess using the term "C-list" might seem offensive, but did I specifically call any character in particular C-list? No. Did I imply that there might exist C-list characters that people might be willing to part with? Yes, and that is because I seriously doubt any major project like this has managed to avoid having a casual writer grow distant from it. I already mentioned wanting full permission and full cooperation, not having asked for abandoned characters without the permission of their authors, etc. etc. in the other post.
Anyway, since I haven't yet read all the stories, I guess I'll just put the idea I had for a story on the backburner (unless enough people decide they do want to actually go through with it). I guess I'm thinking more in terms of a particular style of execution, actually, and am not properly communicating it. Also, the more I think about it, the less casualties I think I'd actually write due to the fact that death itself is just friggin' boring. Odds are, there would probably be all of two irreversible events (and one of them would be an accident). Regardless, I guess I shouldn't offer suggestions until I'm familiar with everything first.
I don't even see the negative of any of this. Technically competent, self-aware (if self-deprecating at times, easily prone to mediocre ideas, and sometimes retarded) writer that could have just killed off the entries without much of a fuss instead decides to offer entirely free content for the entire PPC 'verse? Without any conditions whatsoever? Hell, I'd even offer my really, really, REALLY crappy unpublished City of Heroes "fanfiction" for the chopping block if people wanted it. I'd rather not because I think that having not published it gives me the right to disavow it (it's not like I'm taking it away from anybody), but I offer it, nonetheless.
Anyway, if there's something you want specifically answered, feel free to mention it. Also, while I do my best to avoid letting any personally negative tones seep into my stuff, I might accidentally word something in a way that could be misinterpreted as such and for that, I apologize. Let me assure you that I have nothing against you (and why should I?). You might have completely missed a lot of the point and are using bad debate form, but you're otherwise rational and intelligent (even if it sort of feels like my posts were just casually skimmed over). If you weren't, I wouldn't have posted a big response and a second, largely redundant one with more clarification just because of a two and a half sentence wonder accusing me of missing the point. And please don't assume that I'm being negative in pointing this out personally. I'm just letting you know where I come from. Again, if you have any lingering questions, concerns, etc., I'm more than happy to address them and I hope I do not come across as some asshole for any of this. I would like to contribute in some measure to the website (provided I'm still welcome, anyway). -
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We don't really have 'C-list' or 'cannon fodder' Agents in the PPC ... kinda goes against the whole idea, y'know, since we Don't Leave A Man Behind, and the latest thing with the Mary Sue Factories ... mass produced is for the enemy, dude. And since people only create a few Agents, usually, and get attached to them, I sincerely doubt anyone will volunteer their characters. I certainly won't be.
I can't vouch for the quality of your stories as they aren't my fandom, but if they were on the page then someone at least thought them worthy of sporkage. It's my experience that parodying badfic only ends with worse badfic; perhaps try and steer clear of it? I don't doubt that you tried very hard, but a Mary Sue, even one developed carefully, is a Mary Sue, and you can probably understand why it's hard to differentiate between one done as an 'anvil to the head blatant parody' and one written by someone with too much sugar in their bellies.
Just saying, is all.
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Clarifications by
on 2008-08-16 08:33:00 UTC
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Parody can be of any quality (the term Mary Sue, itself, comes from a parody) and personally, I'd like to think that I made a (failed) parody of the generic Mary Sue type as opposed to something that really is a genuine character of the mold. She only -appears- to be a Mary Sue through virtue of being a (physically) attractive character with extensive sorcery powers that latches onto the main cast, but the universe and its characters already hate her, she's portrayed as being incredibly abrasive and irritating (to the point where she's actually the unaware villain), and she -loses- at every single major thing she attempts. I mean... come on. What can really be done here? "We're here to give you a mercy killing. Your crimes include attempted canon rape that failed due to the story already starting out that way, being a villain, and for just simply existing." It wouldn't make for a good PPC story in the standard mold. But what if one instead comes to the conclusion that a "wrongfully accused" character, carefully constructed by a self-aware author out of mix-and-match pieces (with a little something extra made of pure evil... or something equally cliche) would instead produce a self-aware, genre savvy character that gives the organization a run for its money due to all the standard operating procedure being largely useless on it? That has a lot more potential.
Anyway, when I say "C-list fodder", I'm really referring to characters that aren't cared about (any more). I guess the term is a bit obtuse (it actually refers to how in comics, "C-list" characters that publishers create and then largely abandon have a tendency to be brought back for dramatic deaths without seriously impacting the canon as a whole). I wouldn't say nobody would volunteer their characters for something like this (somebody had to volunteer the 19 characters in the Deceased Agents section). People often change over time and grow distant from their old characters (or, perhaps, the website itself). They might just want to give their character a fairly dramatic exit (or they just decide that they hate the character after all). Also, the deaths (and other twisted things) wouldn't violate the PPC standard operating procedure (if anything, the deaths would inspire the full wrath and fury of the organization, something that would be the whole driving point of the story). Certainly, the agents aren't all invincible, unerring, and completely in the right at all times. That would just by hypocritical of the whole premise ("We send Mary Sue to kill Mary Sue!"), although that would actually make pretty good material ("You strive to kill every Mary Sue there is, but fail to look within your own numbers?"). I ask for characters because I'd really like to be part of the community and for the story to actually feel like a part of it instead of just creating six or so Red Shirts.
Also, I really view the character as being somebody who would get more pleasure out of ironic punishments than just maniacally killing everybody, so it's not even like everybody that volunteers for the project would end up dead, either. For example, perhaps a character that is really, really, REALLY outspoken about their hatred of Mary Sues would end up getting brain-jacked, given a whole makeover, and forced to retain their consciousness as their bodies make them act like classical Mary Sues as the PPC unwittingly sends one of their own to kill them off (which could lead to whoever gets sent either rescuing them after they sense something wrong or finding out later that they killed one of their own agents and having to live with the consequences).
Regardless, as mentioned, I'd like this to be a joint effort if possible. After browsing the PPC Emergencies, there seems to be a gap this type of story could fill (not to mention that it would fit perfectly into the Catastrophe Theory). They've dealt with straightforward base invasions, fighting off the Borg, and major world infections... but somebody destroying them from the inside out? It would require quite a bit more in terms of planning, resources, and all-around adaptability that would test the organization and offer quite a bit of "character development", if you will.
By the way, I know specifically who added the stories in the first place and it certainly wasn't for anything involving the content (let's just say that the Final Fantasy XI endgame community as a whole is not very friendly and leave it at that). If somebody else (as in... somebody not doing it out of petty spite) deems them actually worthy of being on the list, I won't oppose it (although I'll most likely claim them myself just because I like the idea I've come up with). -
I have quite a jaundiced view of parodies by
on 2008-08-16 22:30:00 UTC
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which I stand by, because I've read so many poor fics (NOT including yours, cos I haven't read yours) that then claimed to be parodic that I have become suspicious of the whole idea. Which isn't to say that there aren't good ones out there.
As the the Emergency idea ... it sounds like it has potential. None of my Agents work in Mary Sues, but I'd certainly be interested to see how something like this would work. It could turn out quite interesting.
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It kind of pains me to say this, but... by
on 2008-08-16 10:44:00 UTC
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I think I have a character I can offer.
My Agents' second mission led them to rescue two uncanonical daughters of Aragorn and Arwen called Galae and Rana, who were crowbarred in to make the 'Sue look good and were barely mentioned again. On being brought back to HQ, the girls were renamed Galeya and Rina. Galeya is five and Rina is twelve.
They were placed in the HQ daycare centre to be rehabilitated into HQ life. Rina is nearly old enough to be an Agent in training, and probably will have already begun lessons on being an Agent. She's quite a gentle girl, though, so she'd probably be training for Infrastructure rather than Action Departments- possibly Finance or Personnel. Galeya is very close to her older sister, but also idolises the other Agents and will probably end up in an Action Department.
I offer that Rina be the Agent who is killed. It would probably upset a lot of people, as she isn't even old enough to be able to fight back and would evidently have been picked as an easy target. Not only that, but she'll have made a lot of friends in the daycare who will all be wanting her avenged... Marsha, for one, and you don't upset a hormonal teenaged Triceratops unless you really want to see a rampage. Rina's not a full-blown Agent or even much of a character at all, so her death wouldn't damage canon, but it'd hopefully rile people. At least three or four I can think of.
However...there are very few characters that aren't cared about, and many of those on the Deceased List were. Makes-Things, for example, was a beloved part of the PPC and the first ever non-Flower Agent. And as for someone destroying them from the inside out... have you read the Reorganisation? The Mysterious Somebody and the DIS were trying to bring down the PPC. Not physically, but certainly morally. I'm curious to see how this would work, but perhaps holding off till a few more of the older Boarders have had their say.
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Hi PPC. This is a hopeful speaking. by
on 2008-08-15 19:07:00 UTC
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...it's very strange to be posting a message that isn't in characte- OH HAI.
As might be surmised by my ridiculous subject, I'm a new person who is hoping to join and assist the PPC. I was drawn in after reading Chatvert's work, which happened a while after she said I should join. At least, I think she said that.
Well, about me. Or, more importantly, my views on fanfiction. I'm a real stick in the mud when it comes to canon. Simply put, if it's not canon or in character, I generally dislike it. Exceptions of course are when something is really well written, with evidence and a strong basis for any non-canon material or OoCness that might exist.
Which is why I can rant on all day about why AxB is wrong because A would not have anything romantic to do with B in canon, yada yada yada doesn't work blah blah no support for it yackity yack let's get cookies.
I have a really odd view upon slash. In my head slash implies a non-canonical pairing, and as stated above, I heavily dislike that. But I can tolerate it, so long as it's not in one of my favorite canons. I don't LIKE it, but it won't scar me.
Mary-Sues. Not going to say much besides that they annoy me to no end and that I'm really paranoid about any of my OC's being Sues, to the point where I actually slammed them through the Litmus Test just to make sure.
...I look this over and think great, it's tl;dr and I'm not even DONE.
Fast-Forward through all the rest to... My Fandoms!
I've... got quite a few fandoms. And there's a priority thing for them in my brain, that really dictates just how much OoC I can handle without raging. I've actually developed a much higher tolerance level than I used to, up to the point that the only fandom that I will fiercely defend with the smallest provocation is Kingdom Hearts. Yes, THAT Kingdom Hearts. It's half Disney, for crying out loud! Other fandoms I like are Get Backers, Death Note, Invader Zim, Okami (Giant funball of doooooom), D. Gray-man, Fullmetal Alchemist, Pirates of the Caribbean, and pretty much every Disney movie that came out in the 90's.
I'm hoping that I'll be reading fics around those fandoms, and I'm aware that Kingdom Hearts is a victim particularly of Sues and really bad OoCness (Organization XIII smut? ...it just doesn't work. There is NOTHING in canon that could allow it to work. No emotions = no love, no pleasure, why would they waste their time?). I also seek to find the really bad ones, and I want to kill them. I want to kill them with FIRE. I want to cleanse the world of badfic! I shall FIND the worst, and I shall DESTROY it for the sake of SOCIETY!! I shall-- *dragged away*
*coughs* So yeah. That's me in a nutshell. -
*inexcusably late to the party* by
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Here.
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Anti-Lustin roses! You'll need them. by
on 2008-08-16 13:35:00 UTC
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Trust me.
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Here, have a ... by
on 2008-08-16 18:01:00 UTC
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I've been trying to decide what to give new recruits.
A proctoscope, maybe? Handy for finding suethors' heads. Or maybe a pirate's peg leg? Great for cracking PotC Sues over the head. A panther? Naw, it would probably eat your plover. A pencil sharpener? Useful for those Agents who always seem to have dull pencils when they're writing up their charge sheets.
Ah, I know! A petard!
Yes, that's what I shall give out: a petard, so that if Sues (or their authors) can't be hoist by their own petard, at least they can be hoist by yours. Take all usual precautions for handling explosive devices, of course. -
'Ello! Have a pair of ice-skates! by
on 2008-08-16 12:51:00 UTC
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I'm also pretty paranoid of any of my OCs being 'Sues. I've put some of them through the litmus test about three times, just to make sure. Stupid thing was, they WERE 'Sues, but I totally didn't lie on the test! >
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Welcome! Have an iguana! by
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Not going to say much besides that they annoy me to no end and that I'm really paranoid about any of my OC's being Sues, to the point where I actually slammed them through the Litmus Test just to make sure.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one. Better safe than sorry, I suppose... -
Oooh, another anime fan I see? by
on 2008-08-16 07:46:00 UTC
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We differ in that I'm actually terribly fond of slash (to the extent that Bad Slash fills me with uncontrolable rage)but other than that we seem to be okay. *shakes your hand* Nice to meet you. I know you didn't list any of their titles in your list of fandoms but have you ever heard of the group CLAMP?
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Re: Oooh, another anime fan I see? by
on 2008-08-16 07:50:00 UTC
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*handshake*
Yes, I'm familiar with CLAMP, though I can't say I'm a fan of their work. It's alright, just not my thing. I just prefer things that have action or really complex plots and characters. -
...How is that not CLAMP? by
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Oh, well. You listed some other great titles (even if they're pretty mainstream) so I'll assume you have good taste. If you're into action and complex characters, I'd recomend X/1999 but you've already said you're not a fan.
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Re: ...How is that not CLAMP? by
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...I guess my CLAMP experience is pretty limited, then. Might have to check that one out. Also, forgot to mention Murder Princess as one I enjoy.
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I've heard of it. by
on 2008-08-16 22:58:00 UTC
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I keep seeing the manga for it in the shop and thinking 'Is it worth buying?'. Is it?
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Re: I've heard of it. by
on 2008-08-17 02:59:00 UTC
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It's good, albeit fairly unrealistic. Starts off slowly, and the script may seem pretty bad, but it appears that the translator got changed sometime in the first two novels, since it greatly improves by volume three. There's cursing, violence, and it's got some nakedness in it, though not an absurd amount and it's mostly action and comedy.
The cast is pretty large, two main characters and a host of recurring supporting characters (one of whom is more popular than one of the two mains, as it were). First volume is not a really good example of the series, since it's more introductory. It really picks up in volume two and the first really big arc starts in volume five.
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Welcome! Have a hat! by
on 2008-08-16 07:17:00 UTC
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Because it suits your name so well. Do note the bunny ears and bloody dagger attatched to its brim. ;p
Great to meet you!
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*third hat get*
Thanks! *loves hats* *is now wearing THREE hats*
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Twenty-two? Impressive! (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 03:01:00 UTC
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Welcome! Have some lembas! by
on 2008-08-16 06:44:00 UTC
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Speaking as someone who also seeks to find the worst she can and kill it from a sense of Duty, welcome!
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Re: Welcome! Have some lembas! by
on 2008-08-16 07:36:00 UTC
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Yes, killing the worst in the name of Duty IS fun, isn't it?
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Very much so by
on 2008-08-16 22:23:00 UTC
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although the dinosaur pr0n and some of the other things I've done were vaguely disturbing at the same time...
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Re: Very much so by
on 2008-08-16 22:57:00 UTC
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Ah yes, I READ your work. Jesus, that must have been NIGHTMARISH. Also, I read your review... Are you really a student of Paleontology? Because that would seriously rock, since that's what I intend to study once I get out of the hell of high school (one more year... just one more!).
The inevitable question: What's your favorite dinosaur? I'm fond of Velociraptor and Utahraptor myself. -
Yes, I am... by
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I'm hoping to start my PhD before the end of the year. I will be studying molluscs rather than dinosaurs, but dinosaurs are a lifelong obsession of mine.
Favourites? I have to pick one? While I do like dromaeosaurids like the raptors, I have to say that Stegosaurus is my favourite. But Triceratops should probably be in there too given I have one as a daughter in the PPC :P
*btw; you know about Utahraptor and how it isn't Velociraptor? You get SPECIAL BONUS POINTS! *grumbles about Jurassic Park and inaccuracies* -
Re: Yes, I am... by
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I DO know the difference. Utahraptor is something around four times as large as Velociraptor, and the skulls are built differently (Velociraptor has a much narrower snout.)
Triceratops used to be my favorite, but I find I really like the dromaeosaurids simply because they were probably about as smart as modern wolves. -
*GLOMPS* by
on 2008-08-17 03:57:00 UTC
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YES! YESSS! *punches the air* SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNOWS!
I know, the intelligence thing is totally an intellectual turn on :P Deinonychus too is pretty damn awesome what with the GINORMOUS HUGE DISEMBOWLLING CLAWS OF DOOM. And the whole pack-hunting theory, srsly ...
*does Dance of Awesomeness Dance*
I should stop there or a) Pads will *whap* me for inducing her Jurassic Park traumas or b) I will get very carried away and overenthusiastic and when that happens there's nothing for it but to smack me with a large stick. With nails in. -
Re: *GLOMPS* by
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Deinonychus is really awesome. Heck, ALL dromaeosaurids are awesome with their murder claws.
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probably not. by
on 2008-08-17 04:36:00 UTC
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And dromaeosaurids are way too cool for words :)
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... by
on 2008-08-16 06:32:00 UTC
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I officially heart you. You are on my list of awesome people. Invader Zim and Kingdom Hearts?
Have a pointe shoe. Nice and hard, good for smacking things with.
And welcome. I'm kinda new myself, but... well, you know. ^_^ -
Re: ... by
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Pointe shoe! Wow, I'm just gathering all SORTS of stuff to kill Sues with. When can I start? *wants to kill Sues. Badly*
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Well met, and all that! by
on 2008-08-16 05:36:00 UTC
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Under starlight, under something-that-might've-been-a-moon-somewhere-else light, under- well, whatever light happens to be going your way currently, I guess. *grabs hat so's she can tip it at you*
*headtilt* …'ve I seen you elsewhere?
Which fandoms were you around first in? Might not be relevant, I just wonder, since- as I understand it- slash's meaning has kind of changed over time.
*glees at fandoms* Fun!
…there could be physical pleasure. Maybe. Me, I, uh- snakes. *twitch* Though more the other one.
…that one might've been a troll though, given the last line.
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*bows and offers you a top hat* by
on 2008-08-16 05:08:00 UTC
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Welcome to the PPC!
*grins at a dark-skinned man who is glaring in The Mad Hattie's general direction*
Ignore him - he's one of my agents (and one of my OCs generally. come to think of it). His nickname's actually Mad Hatter, which is why he's glaring...I think. Although he could just be glaring at you for the hell of it. He does that occasionally.
So, anyways, have a top hat. They are most cool and awesome. And this one has sporks sewn into the lining.
Oh, and yayness for more FMA fans XDD -
Re: *bows and offers you a top hat* by
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Wow... my nickname's actually Mad Hattie, so... *offers truce*
Another hat! *puts spork-top hat on top of ypur fur hat*
They need to release FMA translated manga faster >.
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Much agreement on the FMA point by
on 2008-08-16 16:11:00 UTC
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And a random FMA question, becuae I am random: favourite character?
the agent: *looks over at Mad Hattie and grudgingly tips his hat* Truce. -
Re: Much agreement on the FMA point by
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Aah, favorite character... I've always particularly liked Riza Hawkeye, and I practically cried when Hughes died (which led to a hatred of Envy). Ed too, probably because of his self-denial.
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Re: Much agreement on the FMA point by
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I've got a bit of a soft spot for Ed, I have to admit, (Hey, us short folk have got to stick together, you know!) but my favourites are probably Roy, Miles and Scar.
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Hello! *glomp* by
on 2008-08-16 03:58:00 UTC
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Here, have some cookies. I baked them myself and I hope they're not too badly burnt. Bon Appetit!
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Yay, cookies!
*nom nom*
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Good! Glad you liked it! (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 18:21:00 UTC
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You can has a hat... by
on 2008-08-16 02:25:00 UTC
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made of blue ypur fur. It's nice and fuzzy, although it tends to look a bit ridiculous.
A ypur, actually, is a blue yak in appearance, with extremely spiky horns and a taste for sausages. Spambot sausages they like the best, since they were born from a troll's misspelling of "your". How that happens I really have no idea. o.o
Anywhoo. *waves madly* *cackles* -
Re: You can has a hat... by
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*puts on hat*
I wear any hat, whether it's paper, pimp, or a person. -
*chews on* by
on 2008-08-16 02:14:00 UTC
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Wiki link has been given out already, so I have nothing to give you.
Aside from chewmarks.
I probably don't have rabies though, so aren't you lucky? -
Re: *chews on* by
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*nom'd*
Yay, no rabies! (I hope) -
First plover! (nm) by
on 2008-08-15 20:50:00 UTC
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OH HEYA MORE NEWBIES! by
on 2008-08-15 20:12:00 UTC
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Apologies, I am a little hyper. Greetings, hail and well met, and other such welcoming phrases.
*hands over a bag of pebbles for throwing at Sues and a Random Shiny Object to gaze at*
July and Ansela seem to hand out the links now, which I used to do till July yelled at me for it. :)
Anywhoo. Lovely to have you. As others have said, the place for sanity is at the door. You may as well leave it there till you head back out. Everyone else does. -
Re: OH HEYA MORE NEWBIES! by
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*gleefully takes Random Shiny Object and pebbles*
At the door? Pfft, I left my sanity back in 4th grade. It seemed to like it there. -
Yay! Another nutjob! by
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*hugs*
Ahem. Um.
Have an egg whisk! It's shiny, gold-plated, and whisks spambots, author wraiths, and eggs! Use it for good and notmuchevil.
Welcome to the insanity! -
Re: Yay! Another nutjob! by
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I can already tell I'm going to enjoy working here. This is like... my ideal home!
I mean, I've never gotten a free egg whisk before! -
Hi *waves* by
on 2008-08-15 19:53:00 UTC
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Welcome. Have a P-90. It's useful for killing Sues.
Have you checked out the PPC Wiki yet? It has quite a lot of useful information for anyone involved with the PPC. Also, read The Original Series (not to be confused with Star Trek) if you have time.
You say you don't like slash? What about canonical homosexuality? Or fics set several years after the canon ends, when the characters could plausibly have entered into a relationship with someone?
Welcome to the PPC and leave your sanity at the door. You won't need it here. *laughs madly* -
Re: Hi *waves* by
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Canonical homosexuality I like. Also, fics after the canon with plausibility is fine too. I guess I really didn't think about mentioning that, since you don't see those two very often.
And, uh, I was obsessively stalking the wiki before deciding to join. I tend to do things like that *grins* -
First ketchup! by
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Welcome, Hattie! I give you a quartrain.
Welcome, new person, to the PPC
Where things are weird but very fun
When faced with Badfic Legendary
Don't read a word, just start to run.
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on 2008-08-15 20:21:00 UTC
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...I liked it!
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Comment Virginity Take! by
on 2008-08-15 19:13:00 UTC
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Hiiiiiiii. It's about bloody time you joined. Have a spork and some duct tape. Nice to have you on the crew. And I can't *believe* you included Okami :P (FUNBALLLLL!)
I'll leave the more informational and business-like stuff to those who usully do it (Cassie, etc.). Yay for joining!
SealRat
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Why can't I reply? by
on 2008-08-15 21:03:00 UTC
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I tried replying to a thread (Lady Valgaav the Strange's), but all of a sudden, the server refused to let me post!
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Forget I said anything; there must have been a server glitch (nm by
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Calling all untanglers! by
on 2008-08-15 23:38:00 UTC
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Don't look for trouble it will come to you reviews
Angel and Willow are pulled into another dimension where they meet Aragorn, Legolas and the rest of The Fellowship Of The Ring. There are dark times ahead as Legolas has to face his past and a new twist lands him in turmoil once again. It is up to Aragorn
Lord of the Rings - Fiction Rated: M - English - Adventure/Horror - Chapters: 1 - Words: 14,635 - Reviews: 1 - Updated: 2-23-03 - Published: 2-23-03
It's set during the quest, I think. I say 'I think' because the ring seemingly doesn't matter because they all abandon Frodo and the quest to save Legolas who gets raped by his father only to be told Thranduil wasn't his father at all and Elrond is his true father. Also Legolas and Aragorn leave with Angel and Willow for earth to help their world. The beta should be taken out and shot for all the errors in this monstrosity. There are just not enough words to describe how awful it is!
~Zoe~
p.s. remember the fic Boz4pm MSTed? Guess what: same author. -
Doubleyou Tee Eff. (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 09:12:00 UTC
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Oops! by
on 2008-08-15 23:39:00 UTC
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Forgot to post the link.
Linky: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1247682/1/Dont_look_for_trouble_it_will_come_to_you
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Warning to all PPCers by
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I'm posting to warn everyone about an incoming flux of badfic that is bound to come. I just saw the new Star Wars: The Clone Wars...and...well, it kind of sucks but it has its moments. However, there are some...rather badly written lines on the part of the writers. The kind of lines combined with dangerously romantic music and sunsetty silhouettes that aren't too hard to read into.
There are a number of other moents and lines etc etc that are potentially dangerous to the canon. The movie itself is a little shifty in terms of the original non-animated ones.
So. Just as a warning. Keep your eyes out, try to hold on to your sanity. -
Oh NO. *sighs* Had to happen. Stupid Lucas... (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 07:00:00 UTC
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Interesting thing... by
on 2008-08-16 17:02:00 UTC
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Lucas neither directed nor produced this movie, which probably explains why it fails so much. He basically just gave it the go ahead and probably gave some input on it. At least it didn't turn out nearly as bad as the Star Wars Christmas Special complete with a cracked-out Carrie Fisher.
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Still, it seems like such a money-mongerer *sigh* (nm) by
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Really? by
on 2008-08-16 20:02:00 UTC
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I would've thought that an almost Lucas-free movie would suck less...
I've heard about the horror of the SW Christmas Special, but I've never actually seen it. Is it really that bad? -
I've seen it by
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Two words:
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I saw a YouTube clip of Leia singing. It's BAD. by
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Not because Carrie Fisher can't sing, but because the song was the sort that you'd expect to hear from Barney The Saccrine Purple Thing.
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So, did what's-her-name turn out to be a horrible Canon Sue? by
on 2008-08-16 05:59:00 UTC
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Anakin's mysteriously disappearing apprentice, I mean. The writers seemed hopelessly in love with her.
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Re: So, did what's-her-name turn out to be a horrible Canon Sue? by
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She's not actually all that bad. I mean, she is a Padawan, and all Jedi-related things are slightly Sueish, but Anakin was the one jumping from small flying thing to small flying thing. Ahsoka avoided any form of jumping that involved small targets.
Yeah, she DID take on three MagnaGuards and wound up victorious, though there was a lot of creativity involved in the process (hiding and surprise attacks to get one, etc.) She also managed to trigger every trap set up at one point.
Worst thing about her was the MagnaGuards issue, although looking back on it now they weren't as good as the ones seen later on in the third movie. I'm guessing that a) The models were improved throughout the war, or b) General Grievous was NOT letting Dooku take the best of HIS elite guard to go suck up to the Hutts. Anakin was more of a canon-Sue.
The droids rocked. They made the movie epic even while it failed miserably.
"Concentrate all your fire in sector 1s3j225lk12452!"
"Sector 1s3..j...?"
"Just fire there!"
Droids
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She could have been worse. by
on 2008-08-16 16:59:00 UTC
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She was a little bit disrespectful, which bothered me, but Anakin was kind of like that too, so they made a deccent pair. She Ahsoka seemed a little bit beyond the ability of a young padawan, but again, Anakin was like that too. She wasn't a total Sue, but it's easy to see how someone could write her as one.
Oh, and you forgot the best one, Hattie: "...What happened to the shields? * BOOM EXPLOSION *"
And also: "AAAAAAAAAAAH * droid falls down cliff * " "Get back here, Seargent!"
And: Droid: "So, they got away. What should I do, call Count Dooku, or something?" " * glare * * Jedi forced off cliff * " "AAAAAAAAAH!"
The droids were very sentient in this movie, which I thought was great.
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Regarding Fanfic Land and the Badfic Game by
on 2008-08-16 04:05:00 UTC
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I was just messing around at Fanfic Land...and I notice there's only stories for Wiki and the PPC. When is the next Badfic Game coming up? (If it is at all) And can someone open up submissions to the OFU section if it does? I've got a few evil little OFUM Nuzguls gnawing at my sanity...
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I'll add... by
on 2008-08-17 20:24:00 UTC
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... that until this year, the only section to exist at all was the PPC one. This year I said that stories could be written for any of them, but as it turned out I was still the only person who did anything in the Wiki (and that took effort). But yes, they'll all be open next time, too. No pages until someone writes something, though.
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Woot! I'll get started on some OFUM badfic for next time. by
on 2008-08-17 20:37:00 UTC
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Or may I just email it to you and you stick it in anyways? Just wondering.
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I technically shouldn't. by
on 2008-08-17 23:11:00 UTC
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But I might anyway. Bear in mind it won't get any reviews that way, though.
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Ahh, I see. I think I'll wait then. (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 04:59:00 UTC
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I believe... by
on 2008-08-16 04:36:00 UTC
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That you missed it. Last month or so. And I believe
hSthe Fanfic Land Admin does that once a year or so. Lurking a bit more often helps you keep an eye on the cool stuff like that. -
Funny... by
on 2008-08-16 05:35:00 UTC
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I think the Powers That Be hate me. *sniffle*
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Could always write them and save them for next year. (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 10:49:00 UTC
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Now I've got another Nuzgul...great... by
on 2008-08-16 18:25:00 UTC
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I've read a great deal of the badfic on fanfic land...and now, I'm absolutely thankful that these are written as parodies, or I'd be begging Miss Cam for an Official Spin-off University of the Protectors of the Plot Continuum. OSUPPC. Hahaha.
And that OSUPPC Nuzgul is attacking me, too. Can someone relieve me of it? -
I think something similar to that was discussed by
on 2008-08-16 19:34:00 UTC
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and subsequently discarded around the same time as the badfic game. It just wouldn't work, for reasons that other people on this board could probably explain better than I.
I'm glad someone is enjoying(?) the badfic. Many brains were broken during their creation, some completely beyond repair. -
I can tell. by
on 2008-08-16 23:00:00 UTC
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I was laughing so hard as I read the tripe. It was often so undecipherable, though. I suppose that's a point in parody badfics.
I especially enjoyed (?) the Jaycacia fics. That Mary Sue needs to get her DNA tested to see who her parents are. The debate (loosely put) over her parentage was...odd.
And hahahahaha...Jaycasa! Someone misspelled the 'Sue's name and now Jay's a house! (Get it? Jay Casa? Jay House?) -
I managed one story in that game, by
on 2008-08-17 08:04:00 UTC
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Then I collapsed in horror. It was the most deliberately awful thing I've ever written, and quite probably the most wful full stop. I still have memories of the first story I ever wrote, and it doesn't compare to PPC badfic.
*snicker* I got the Jaycasa joke.
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Another idea r.e. Six Disentanglers by
on 2008-08-16 04:54:00 UTC
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What if the past regenerations of the Disentangler and one partner/intern for each are pulled out for sinister reasons and the first story/multiple-parter involves the discovery of vegetal shenanigans. Then, they are dealt the crossover?
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....Ew. (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 07:52:00 UTC
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*Raises hand* by
on 2008-08-17 06:20:00 UTC
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I can volunteer Agent Arti for this. He needs a bit more of a background to him. My expertise is mostly in the Keys to the Kingdom, so I can help out there.
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If you can contrive for ArtiÂ… by
on 2008-08-17 06:24:00 UTC
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…to work with the Sixth Disentangler for a time. I already have partners for Four and Five, and her third regeneration occurred in 2000.
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I have some older agents... by
on 2008-08-17 21:14:00 UTC
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Some of their backstories go back to 1995. Do you want me on one of the earlier regenerations?
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Yes. by
on 2008-08-17 22:17:00 UTC
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The Second Disentangler (a cheerful sort) or the Third (who was rather unstable owing to the circumstances of her second regeneration).
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Which would you prefer I work on? by
on 2008-08-17 23:27:00 UTC
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Or do you want me to do both?
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You can do both. by
on 2008-08-17 23:49:00 UTC
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May 1993: The Disentangler recruited, a semi-fic blip from an abandoned Doctor Who fic. Sent to the DoIC.
November 1995: Zapped by the Emperor while facing a Star Wars-Myst Sue. First regeneration.
February 1999: Arrested by the DIS (Held three cells from Blue Photon).
June 1999: Mangled and left for dead by Twp'atwt in his massacre of the prisoners. Second regeneration.
April 2000: Contracted Krytos. Third regeneration.
March 2008: Roasted by Visser Three's new Balrog morph. Fourth regeneration.
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All right. by
on 2008-08-18 01:14:00 UTC
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I'm thinking of Anastasia Spade (DoIC, from Real World) for the Second and Dmitri Petrovich Ivanov (DoF, from Nochnoy Dozor continuum) for the Third. I haven't gotten to play with those two very much.
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Arti's backstory strteches back for a while as well. by
on 2008-08-18 21:27:00 UTC
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To about 1998, I'm guessing. But it's ok if you want him with one of the more recent incarnations.
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And which Fandoms are involved? by
on 2008-08-16 05:42:00 UTC
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Intriguing idea, by the way.
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A bunch of small ones. by
on 2008-08-16 06:09:00 UTC
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I myself am familiar with only one, but there ought to be enough technical charges (plus too many fandoms crossed over).
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I was aware of that...but the names of the fandoms are...? (nm) by
on 2008-08-16 06:27:00 UTC
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The summary saysÂ… by
on 2008-08-16 06:35:00 UTC
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… "So...a bunch of different people based off of random series get together and try to save to world...it's interesting to say the least. Leven Thumps, Percy Jackson, Keys to the Kingdom, and Dragons in our Midst are featured. Another RPG-turned-fanfic."
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I'd be willing to help. by
on 2008-08-16 20:26:00 UTC
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I have decent knowledge of Leven Thumps and Keys to the Kingdom. What can I do to assist?
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Your e-mail addresses could help, that we could plan.. by
on 2008-08-16 20:59:00 UTC
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Mine is korora_penNOSPAMguin@yahoo.com (remove the NOSPAM).
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Mine by
on 2008-08-17 17:22:00 UTC
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agent_tomato5 (at) yahoo (dot) com.
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Ohhhhh. by
on 2008-08-16 18:14:00 UTC
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I have a friend obsessed with Percy Jackson. But I don't know any of these fandoms...I need to read more than LotR.
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Paging the DBS! by
on 2008-08-17 02:23:00 UTC
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There is no excuse for this atrocity! (It's AFF, in case you're accessing it from work/a public place.) 15 reviews, and an average vote of 5 stars from 18 votes.
A Shattered Mind by German Kitsune Witch Jimaine.
Abarai Renji worked as hard as he could to leave Inuzuri. He wanted to escape from the pain and the hunger but most of all from being raped as a small child. Now as a man he is forced into that situation again by his Captain Kuchiki Byakuya N/C, Lemon
Do I even need to mention the fact that they've forgotten the OOC tag that is definitely necessary for this 'fic'? -
Re: Paging the DBS! by
on 2008-08-17 07:46:00 UTC
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hi guys i am young boy like you i have free candy and yummies at my house pls come and get free candy like haloooweenie and you wil be very happy go to red van by house with scratching FREE CANDY and eat candy and have yummy yummy feeling then sleep at my house and lets HAVE FUNNY FUN and CANDY pls come i am young boy lonely 11 male lonely
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I thought we got rid of you. by
on 2008-08-17 21:37:00 UTC
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Weren't all these supposed to be deleted?
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Just... eep. by
on 2008-08-17 05:58:00 UTC
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I'm usually one of the people going, "Ooh, badfic, let's see just how painful it is."
...this is so way over my head. I agree with Skid; I am actually frightened of reading this story. After all, it appears that the person writing it not only has good grammar and spelling, but is doing it in all seriousness.
...and wait, average of 5 stars? Out of... 5? *shudder*
I'm going to hide under the table now, 'kay? To those agents who might be brave enough to read through and attack this fic... good luck. -
Why? by
on 2008-08-17 04:46:00 UTC
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I'm actually afraid to read this. I just got into Bleach and I don't want it to be ruined forever.
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What is to be done with Cho Chang's eleven sisters? by
on 2008-08-17 06:09:00 UTC
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I'm thinking to have Tawaki and Dustin recruit them, as they are far from being major characters. On the other hand, I think they are the only OCs.
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Making them Agents could be good.. by
on 2008-08-17 06:14:00 UTC
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I'm envisioning someone making the comment
'One went to the Department of Mary-Sues, to destroy the immortal, wisest, and fairest of all creatures.
Three went to the Department of Bad Slash, to kill the Angsters and masters of the male hoardes.'
And Five. Five went to the Department of Geographical Aberrations, who above all else, desire fire.
And one... One actually became a Mary-Sue and was killed after glomping Agent Suicide! Squeee!' -
Six, perhaps? 1+3+5+1=10, not 11 (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 06:52:00 UTC
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Turn your head to the side and squint.. It COULD be 11 by
on 2008-08-18 21:24:00 UTC
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Um, maybe two went to the DoMS?
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Oh, that's good! We should inscribe it somewhere... by
on 2008-08-17 06:23:00 UTC
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The cafeteria wall, maybe?
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Huzzah for spam... by
on 2008-08-17 08:10:00 UTC
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I'm trying to get a gauge on how fast the spamalanche is moving with this post - feel free to comment or ignore. In the meanwhile, we have a shiny livejournal community.
-Dann
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*smacks spammer* READ THIS BEFORE CONTINUING! by
on 2008-08-17 09:43:00 UTC
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So, below this post is somewhere in the territory of 40 or 50 pages full of junk posts, all with one E-mail address, binservices@gmail.
There's just one problem with this - the posts themselves most likely did not come from binservices@gmail, whoever he happens to be. An IP trace goes back to a web hosting company, cirtexhosting.com. I've already sent them an E-mail documenting the incident.
Please, please, please, do not E-mail binservices@gmail, and especially not angrily. He's probably not responsible, and getting tons of nasty E-mail will not help anything. The responsible people violated their web host's TOS and will most likely get their website deleted.
Thank you kindly, we now return to your regularly scheduled posting. -
Aaand... an update! by
on 2008-08-17 21:34:00 UTC
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For those of you who missed it, there was a bot spamming the board with the same post at a rate of several posts per minute for several hours last night. I posted the above post at about 2 in the morning, when it looked like the bot had stopped for a while. I've been exchanging E-mails with both the server.com folks and the hosts of the server doing the spamming, we'll see what happens with that. The posts around here will be more than a bit weird as all the (hundreds of) spam posts were deleted, leaving our inserted comments without context.
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This went past "ridiculous" around three hours ago. by
on 2008-08-17 11:31:00 UTC
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I have no reason to reply to this post at all. I'm just doing it for kicks.
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Is this a Ypur Stampede? by
on 2008-08-17 13:44:00 UTC
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Plainly our dropping a 5,000 pound rhino on the first one made them angry... Maybe a 10,000 pound rhino this time?
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Indeed it seems so, Artic my friend. by
on 2008-08-17 14:33:00 UTC
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Fetch the rhino, possibly more than one. The Ypur's shall rue the day the dared desecrate the PPC! They shall run in fear of our 10,000 pound rhinos and rather disturbing kites!
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You know, this is what I love most about the PPC... by
on 2008-08-18 01:23:00 UTC
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We can take almost anything and make something fun out of it. I'll enjoy seeing the mission or wiki entry that describes the thousand-ton rhinos, kites, and ypurs roaming HQ.
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Wait, it's not our snazzy black uniforms? (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 01:31:00 UTC
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*Wriggles hand* It's a toss up by
on 2008-08-18 01:43:00 UTC
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But anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, I also present the page that details the 2008 Ypur invasion.
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/The_2008_Ypur_Invasion
If you wish to add to it, go ahead. But, in total, I believe we currently have 845 Ypurs in circulation. Reckon it's possible to use them as beasts of burden around the HQ? Most importantly, are they intelligent?
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Paging the DBS! (Again! Let's hope this one stays.) by
on 2008-08-17 12:01:00 UTC
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Sorry if someone replied to the last one, but I can't find it again due to all the spam. It's on AFF, in case you're accessing it from work/a public place.
A Shattered Mind by German Kitsune Witch Jimaine
Abarai Renji worked as hard as he could to leave Inuzuri. He wanted to escape from the pain and the hunger but most of all from being raped as a small child. Now as a man he is forced into that situation again by his Captain Kuchiki Byakuya N/C, Lemon
Bwuh? What? asdfghjkl? Do I need to describe how OOC these two characters are? -
I'd love to help but .. by
on 2008-08-17 23:03:00 UTC
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...again, dunno the continuum ...
Maybe we need some DBS agents for the anime/manga continuua. Any volunteers?
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Regarding recent events... by
on 2008-08-17 13:45:00 UTC
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...namely, the spambot attack earlier today, it was suggested by several people that we temporarily switch to the PPC LJ community until the invasion is over.
Link is here: http://community.livejournal.com/the_ppc/
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All we can do is wait for our emails to the owner... by
on 2008-08-17 15:49:00 UTC
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to have an effect.
Several people have contacted the owner of the server, or whatever it's called.
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This is so boring by
on 2008-08-17 16:00:00 UTC
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At least /b/tard trolling is entertaining to read.
No this is just the work of a flooder. And I think Anon had nothing to do with this.
Why do I think that? No memes are mentioned in the entire 900 pages of troll spam, although the disgusting pedo advert made me angry. Fichunter out. -
I hate 4chan. by
on 2008-08-17 22:25:00 UTC
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Though I do find the memes amusing, and some of the Holders are fun.
Would it count as Sueism if my agents tried to give a Sue or a /b/tard troll to a Holder, then realised that they were within its line of sight and the only way to actually get out was to pass the test to get the Object?
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Welcome to PPC Message Board by
on 2008-08-17 16:07:00 UTC
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Please let us know of any questions or problems. You can respond to this message or visit the DiscussionApp Forum.
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This is a test post. by
on 2008-08-17 16:08:00 UTC
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Lookit the lovely, er, test-ness of it.
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And this is a test reply. by
on 2008-08-17 16:29:00 UTC
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Wheeee!
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Dealing With Spambots (emergency measures) by
on 2008-08-17 16:41:00 UTC
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Option One: Wait Them Out
It'd be really nice if it went away and left us alone, wouldn't it? But it's had a couple of breaks so far without actually stopping.
Option Two: Run Away
To which end I present this:
The PPC Message Board
As opposed to the PPC Posting Board currently under invasion. I've done my best to get a match for the design of the real one, but if this goes on, I'll need to ask someone with some actual ability with this sort of thing to fix the last few problems. Still, it beats not being able to talk, right? And it has the advantage that password-holders can block IPs on request, and are still present.
[Cross-posting to the LJ community]
hS
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All right, here we are, then. by
on 2008-08-17 16:47:00 UTC
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Feels almost like home, doesn't it? Only with less spam all over the floor. And slightly wonky margins. Does anyone here know anything about style sheets?
Anyway. Currently this is just intended to be used for the duration and then retired gracefully, but the alternative is considering this a permanent switch. The Board looks the same and works the same: the sole difference is the address (we'd need a new page to store the Constitution on) and the fact that anyone with the password would be able to block IP adresses. That's halfway between being a good and a bad thing -- it'd be good when trolls come by, but the Board has always gotten by without moderators before, and we may not want to start now. Still, we'll see. For now... Business As Usual?
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CSS by
on 2008-08-19 11:05:00 UTC
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I'm pretty good with stylesheets. Let me know what you need tinkered with.
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I have by
on 2008-08-18 21:39:00 UTC
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awful timing. I blew in in the middle of your spam crisis, looking around at places I used to lurk such a long time ago.
But hooray! All is not lost, and you have a delicious new refuge! -
Right now, anything non-trolled is awesome news. by
on 2008-08-18 09:06:00 UTC
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The links... they're blue. I feel like I've wandered into an AU by accident.
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It ain't blue for me. by
on 2008-08-18 17:17:00 UTC
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:P Weird.
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What color are you seeing? (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 18:30:00 UTC
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Red, just like the old one. Shame; I'd like blue. (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 02:08:00 UTC
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Blue would be nice. by
on 2008-08-23 01:18:00 UTC
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I'm seeing links as blue and everything else red. Bit disorienting. Using FF3.
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Blue would be nice. by
on 2008-08-23 01:18:00 UTC
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I'm seeing links as blue and everything else red. Bit disorienting. Using FF3.
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I'm seeing by
on 2008-08-18 20:25:00 UTC
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grey background, khaki unvisited links, dark red visited links and green text.
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I think, by
on 2008-08-18 20:29:00 UTC
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after checking my options, that everyone is seeing their default/chosen browser colours. There's an option on Firefox to choose page background, link and text colours and a tick box to 'allow pages to choose colours, instead of my selection above'. I have the box checked yet I am still seeing the colours I chose.
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well, I've noticed ... by
on 2008-08-19 00:48:00 UTC
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... that at work it's all red and at home it's all blue. Only difference I know is that work uses IE and I use Firefox at home.
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I use Firefox... by
on 2008-08-19 18:48:00 UTC
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And I see blue. So perhaps that's it.
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I use IE. by
on 2008-08-19 16:01:00 UTC
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That might be it.
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That's what it is, though. by
on 2008-08-18 10:53:00 UTC
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A strange bizarre alternate reality where the PPC Board is blue! And not swamped by spam!
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Shiny! I like. (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 08:11:00 UTC
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I like this place by
on 2008-08-18 01:33:00 UTC
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... okay, it doesn't look very different. But the ability for security guards (cheers on that title, by the way) to block bad IPs is, I think, the best combination we could ask for in terms of keeping things the same and not being so open to attack.
I'm quite happy for a permanent switch - just so long as we don't end up using both interchangeably, because that will just drive us all mad. One or the other. I'd favour this one simply for the password guards. -
*waves* by
on 2008-08-17 19:50:00 UTC
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I was wondering whether you were still around, hS. Good to see you're alive.
Is anybody else wondering "Why now, after all these years with no serious spam problems?" Or am I just paranoid?
Style sheets... I know a little bit, but I'd have to see the thing. It's been a while since I took that HTML class. There would probably be trial and error involved.
As for moderators, we've never had official mods, but there have always been people who stepped in when stepping in was needed. If we were to have official mods, we'd just have to appoint those people.
Perhaps it is time to stop being so very resistant to change.
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About the spam thing... by
on 2008-08-19 21:14:00 UTC
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Yes, I am wondering about that, although I've only been here for five to six months. It's very strange indeed.
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There's always trial and error involved in HTML by
on 2008-08-17 20:03:00 UTC
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Anyway, I guess that by style sheets cascading style sheets are meant. I think that the problem here is that a margin needs to be defined for the main frame (where the main content is). If you know what that is called on the style sheet just add something like this:
#main_content { margin: 40px 12.5em 20px 20px;
padding: 20px;
}
Margin and padding both have the effect of placing text further from the border of the screen. There's probably more specifics to it, but I'd have to look that up. Thing about style sheets is that you make them once and don't have to bother about them until you want to change them. Knowledge about them doesn't seem to stick much for lack of use. -
Excellent. by
on 2008-08-17 19:28:00 UTC
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Wiki front page has been updated with this news.
I'll be sure to keep that updated on the situation.
And if this is a permanent switch, I can offer the wiki page for the Constitution to be linked to, or if not that, we could always whip up a freewebs or something for it. -
Dunno about moderators. by
on 2008-08-17 19:17:00 UTC
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Seems to me they'd be less like authority-wielding mods, and more like kind of security guards. I think that kind of a system would mostly be used just when we needed to get rid of a troll or something, like you said. It doesn't necessarily mean they'd have to act as moderators. (We could give them Dandelion uniforms or something.)
Nonetheless, I'm in favor of keeping the old board, if only because we don't need to update the web address or anythingand it makes it easier for those of us who have the old URL memorized.
Also, far from being silly, you pretty much become Board Hero for the moment. I think. Do we have hats or something for this kind of occasion? (on pressure from outside sources, I also requisition a hat for July and Dann, for also saving the day.)
And welcome back! Unless you've been just lurking all this time. In which case, welcome back to... Posting. -
I don't want a hat! D: (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 19:23:00 UTC
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Shush, you. *quietly rolls in duct tape* (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 19:23:00 UTC
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It's nice. by
on 2008-08-17 19:00:00 UTC
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Different, though. And blue. But at least we have a Board again!
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Yo. by
on 2008-08-17 18:57:00 UTC
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Seems okay here. Nice to have a backup, at least.
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Re: All right, here we are, then. by
on 2008-08-17 18:36:00 UTC
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Much better without all the spam.
PS Did anyone else see that spam message that was different? The one about little boys and candy or something? -
Yeah, I saw it too. by
on 2008-08-17 19:18:00 UTC
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It said: "hi guys i am young boy like you i have free candy and yummies at my house pls come and get free candy like haloooweenie and you wil be very happy go to red van by house with scratching FREE CANDY and eat candy and have yummy yummy feeling then sleep at my house and lets HAVE FUNNY FUN and CANDY pls come i am young boy lonely 11 male lonely "
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Urgh, yes. *shudders* Nasty. (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 22:21:00 UTC
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I find it hilarious. *shrug* by
on 2008-08-18 14:33:00 UTC
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Oh, come on! How can a spambot pretending to be an eleven year-old boy with a candy fetish NOT be funny? ;)
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Oh, wow. by
on 2008-08-17 19:29:00 UTC
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I never clicked the link, I only glanced at the summary. But, yeesh, that's really disturbing.
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Is good. by
on 2008-08-17 18:06:00 UTC
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Should I (or someone else) post every few weeks or so on the old board? Just to stop it going down?
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It's BLUE! by
on 2008-08-17 17:24:00 UTC
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That's weird.
Thank you very much, hS. This is very nice. -
Blue, Blue! by
on 2008-08-18 18:40:00 UTC
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After JUST having played Earthbound where there's a cult painting everything blue, the blue text is kinda funny.
I like the new board, though. Maybe now I'll get around to posting more. -
Yo. by
on 2008-08-17 16:58:00 UTC
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Aww, a new place. Which is nice, but...not as good as being able to post at one board without fear of evil spamminess.
Evil evil spambots.
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Well, it certainly beats not being able to talk. by
on 2008-08-17 16:51:00 UTC
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Temporary sounds like an excellent idea, unless we really do have to leave the old place for good. Which hopefully we won't.
Cassie, who is always encouraging.
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So, what should we do with all the ypurs? by
on 2008-08-17 17:26:00 UTC
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The spambot has left us with a whole lot of them. Where shall we put them all?
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*feels slightly dim* Um, what are they? (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 22:22:00 UTC
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Well... by
on 2008-08-19 16:00:00 UTC
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If you read any one of the spam messages, you'll notice something along the lines of "hey i luv it send me ypur pics." When the first spam appeared, I promptly decided that a ypur sounded like a sort of yakkish blue furry animal that liked to eat sausages and had uberspiky horns. Lycaenion even drew a picture. http://manxandshadow.deviantart.com/art/The-Mighty-Ypur-94127672
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*happy noises* by
on 2008-08-19 17:42:00 UTC
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I would like to ride on its back into the wild blue yonder.
We would blend in, see.
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I was going to adopt one anyway... by
on 2008-08-18 09:04:00 UTC
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Didn't someone volunteer to make a list of them like the Mini-Balrogs at OFUM?
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Manx and Shadow... by
on 2008-08-17 20:13:00 UTC
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are about to get their RC flooded with ypurs. You can adopt from there, if you like.
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I'll adopt one. by
on 2008-08-18 16:27:00 UTC
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She shall be called Wilma, because that name attached itself to her. *huggles*
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I'll take one! by
on 2008-08-18 15:09:00 UTC
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It shall be called Alto and will think it can fly.
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I just kinda snagged one... by
on 2008-08-18 08:27:00 UTC
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...his name is Frederick, and there is plenty of spambot sausage for him to nom on. XD
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Put them in the CAF adoption agency? by
on 2008-08-17 18:05:00 UTC
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I dunno, first thing I could think of.
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*waves* Potential good news? by
on 2008-08-17 19:26:00 UTC
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So due to my tendency to stalk sites I enjoy, I've noticed the board has not been spammed since 10 in the morning, EST. It might be a lull, or maybe it's over?
Just letting you all know. -
It looks good... by
on 2008-08-17 19:57:00 UTC
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All the spam messages seem to be gone. Yay!
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Possibly. by
on 2008-08-17 19:41:00 UTC
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Although this was the same spambot who'd made a brief appearance weeks ago (and was the creator of the ypur). So it might come back.
Or Techno-Dann was successful. One of the two. -
Could be. by
on 2008-08-17 19:29:00 UTC
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But it had done that several times over when it had been spamming.
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Alternately... by
on 2008-08-17 19:33:00 UTC
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It might have already been stopped, from what I've learned from Techno-Dann.
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Huzzah! The spammer is gone! by
on 2008-08-17 19:55:00 UTC
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Of course, we shouldn't get too excited. We are vulnerable to more, after all. But for now, let us celebrate!
*hauls out a limitless supply of Bleeproducts, drinks and nibbles*
Celebrate, for the Board is ours once again! -
Anyone mind if I make up more of a background to the Ypurs? by
on 2008-08-18 01:49:00 UTC
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With help form those who know more about mammalian biology than me *Coughs*Trojie*Coughs*. You know, just for the fun. I did Pokemon fanfics a while ago, and I wouldn't mind creating a fictional background to the Ypur. It would take me back *Reminsces until he gets buried under a pile of Ypurs*
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from what I can see.. by
on 2008-08-18 03:05:00 UTC
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... the Ypur appears to be a bovine, probably related to either the musk ox or the yak (going on what I recall of the picture linked to a while back). Any actual specific biological details you need, just ask, rather than me making this tl;dr by filling it with stuff about four chambered stomachs and cloven hooves :P
As to tasks, most bovines can be domesticated to provide meat, milk and leather products, or as draught animals to pull heavy things or to carry riders.
I am NOT volunteering to castrate any male Ypurs to make them more docile. Yes, I do know the theory and several techniques. But no, I am not doing it.
However I am working on re-opening the PPC Cute Animal Friends Adoption Agency and I'm sure room can be found for any spare Ypurs there. -
Room? by
on 2008-08-18 07:59:00 UTC
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You want to fill the adoption centre with eight hundred bovine-size ypur? Are you MAD, friend? Those things are HUGE. I thought ypurs would be monkey-like, about the size of a big cat. That there would be room for...
Well, it's up to you, but I'm not adopting anything bigger than I am. -
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on 2008-08-18 08:02:00 UTC
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... of using a handy plothole to make a paddock for them ...
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Ah. That makes sense, then. (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 23:34:00 UTC
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845 ypurs? by
on 2008-08-18 02:32:00 UTC
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I've already got one, really don't need more... but maybe they could form some type of elite squad (or army) that go after people who misspell "your" as "ypur"... or anyone who transposes two letters right next to each other...
And any severely under-mini-ed OFU could borrow a few of those to ride herd on the students, maybe.
Personally, I picture Ypurs as being very, very affectionate as long as you feed them and don't transpose the letters 'o' and 'p'. Then they turn into ravaging machines of DEATH. :P -
Ding, Dong, the Spammer's Dead! Which spammer? The wicked- by
on 2008-08-18 01:28:00 UTC
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Ding Dong! The Spammer's dead. Which Spammer? The Wicked Spam!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Spammer's dead.
Wake up, sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Spammer's dead!
She's gone where the goblins go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
THE WICKED SPAMMER'S DEAD!
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Freakin' finally! by
on 2008-08-17 21:25:00 UTC
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*indulges in nibbles, but keeps her egg whisk at the ready*
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Yaaaaaay! by
on 2008-08-17 20:20:00 UTC
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Admittedly, I missed most of it because I was at the cinema, but yay for vanished!spambot! :D
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Also by
on 2008-08-17 20:25:00 UTC
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I think what happened was that the owners of YourWebApps.com deleted the spam messages and blocked the IP address. Anyway, huzzah that it's gone! *Ypur falls on head*
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*snags a Ypur* by
on 2008-08-17 21:31:00 UTC
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I shall name him Frederick! *huggles the Ypur*
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Not quite, by
on 2008-08-17 20:29:00 UTC
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The YourWebApps.com guys deleted the spam, but not sure about the IP address. The bot attack was stopped by the sysadmin of the webhost it was using.
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Yaaay! by
on 2008-08-17 20:18:00 UTC
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*gets a noise maker*
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Wow. It's gone and a half, isn't it? (nm) by
on 2008-08-17 20:13:00 UTC
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Good news! After keeping tabs on the Board all day... by
on 2008-08-17 20:02:00 UTC
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...for the last thirteen hours, in fact, I think we can safely say that Techno-Dann was successful. The spam has stopped and has been deleted. The Board is once again ours.
All praise goes to JulyFlame who first alerted Techno-Dann, to Techno-Dann for leaping in to stop the deluge, and to hS for creating this temporary refuge during the crisis. Thanks to them all. -
*hugs all three* (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 01:34:00 UTC
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Ack! D: (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 03:33:00 UTC
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Argh. [Gives up and asks for help] by
on 2008-08-18 02:08:00 UTC
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Rather a peculiar request... does anyone know (or, rather, can anyone find out) how to say "Welcome to Ukraine" in Ukrainian? Preferably in the Roman rather than Cyrillic alphabet.
Actually what I want to know how to say is "Welcome to Wales" in Ukrainian, but I doubt that combination appears anywhere on the internets, so I plan to play the Substitution Game (what fun, what fun). So what I really need is the Ukrainian for "Welcome to", well, anywhere.
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I can't offer any help, but... by
on 2008-08-18 07:35:00 UTC
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after seeing the new addition to Nyx Nightingale's wiki page, this request suddenly seems to make a lot more sense.
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An Answer! *feels helpful* by
on 2008-08-18 02:32:00 UTC
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Vitaemo v Ukrainu
Pronounced something like vuh-TIE-eh-mo v(just a v sound) oo-krai-EE-no
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Thanks much! (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 13:10:00 UTC
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Ukrainian, eh? by
on 2008-08-18 02:29:00 UTC
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Try this site: translator
It appears to be completely Ukrainian, and provides a number of different translations, first in the Cyrillic alphabet (at least, I presume that's what it was), then, under that, Roman for pronunciation.
The only thing is, when I typed in the phrase, it spat the words out individually with no regard to grammar...
Another option might be to find a list of Cyrillic-to-Roman characters ~ there's all sorts of things like that for Japanese characters, so it shouldn't be too hard to find... This looks vaguely like the sort of thing you'd need, though I'm not sure it's quite right. Then, if you have a translator that spits out only Cyrillic, you can go through and transliterate...
Eh, well, I hope I've managed to be at least slightly helpful. Dare I ask why you need to know how to say "Welcome to Wales" in Ukrainian?
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It's BACK. The spambot's BACK! (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 08:00:00 UTC
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It's BACK. The spambot's BACK! (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 08:01:00 UTC
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GAHFLAVINIOH:SDVUO:HSDVNJ:ADOHN! by
on 2008-08-19 08:34:00 UTC
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My anger at this thing knows no bounds.
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On the bright sideÂ… by
on 2008-08-18 23:12:00 UTC
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…DoSAT can cannibalize all the spambots for spare parts.
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*brightens up* That'll work! by
on 2008-08-19 02:10:00 UTC
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Then maybe we can get enough CADs to go around again... of course, they might be somewhat prone to spamming us while on missions...
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*swears repeatedly and kicks spambot* by
on 2008-08-18 10:06:00 UTC
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Just **** off, will you?!
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Maybe we're being deliberatly targeted? by
on 2008-08-18 08:43:00 UTC
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It's a theory. If we are, I wish a frostbite for their evil little fingers, Legendary Badfic for their mind and a plague of fangirls.
I vote we also send a copy of Beethoven's Third Concerto, PPC edition. -
Wait... by
on 2008-08-18 18:45:00 UTC
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...fangirls is a plague?
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Ayup. by
on 2008-08-19 00:27:00 UTC
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But it was just too cruel to unleash upon the people of Egypt, no matter how stupid their pharoah was being.
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It is now! (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 21:21:00 UTC
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I'm a bad Beethoven fan... by
on 2008-08-18 12:08:00 UTC
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Why is the Third Concerto so very bad?
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I think it's more the involvement of by
on 2008-08-18 12:59:00 UTC
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the PPC orchestra that makes it bad, rather than the actual music.
(Ansela volunteers her bagpipes, if they would add to the effect.) -
Better be... by
on 2008-08-18 13:59:00 UTC
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the C minor piano concerto be awesome... Better than the G major, IMHO, but not up to the standard of either the violin or Emperor concerti.
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Well, I WAS implying what Ansela said... by
on 2008-08-18 14:17:00 UTC
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But.. Nah, that's about it. I'm not overly knowledgable with music, so I don't really have anything against that piece.
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It's definitely suspicious. by
on 2008-08-18 08:51:00 UTC
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And there's something up with the names it's giving, too… *suspicious stare*
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Who would want to spam us? by
on 2008-08-18 09:04:00 UTC
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I mean, what's the point? If someone's upset at being PPCd, you'd think their first reaction would be an angry rant, and THEN spamming when they realise we aren't going to be hurt by it. But there hasn't been anyone.
It's not as though we're going to be urged into an apology; the only result is that we might move elsewhere (ie, here). So what?
Unless they're doing it just for kicks, of course. Can't understand that sort of person... *sigh*
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The Forget-Me-Not or the Venomous Tentacula, perhaps? (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 17:00:00 UTC
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*grin* by
on 2008-08-18 08:53:00 UTC
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I still can't get over the first message...
"hi guys i am young boy like you i have free candy and yummies at my house pls come and get free candy like haloooweenie and you wil be very happy go to red van by house with scratching FREE CANDY and eat candy and have yummy yummy feeling then sleep at my house and lets HAVE FUNNY FUN and CANDY pls come i am young boy lonely 11 male lonely"
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The machines have developed a sense of humor! Hide! (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 21:44:00 UTC
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Recorded by the PPC Chamber Orchestra, no less! by
on 2008-08-18 08:44:00 UTC
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I think you may be right, though. *sigh*
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*is pissed off to the nth degree* by
on 2008-08-18 08:10:00 UTC
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Seriously...too many spambots and not enough egg whisks. I wish they'd just leave us alone, as pathetic as that sounds.
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I know. by
on 2008-08-19 21:02:00 UTC
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Stupid spambots...they could at least wait until we get more eggwhisks, huh?
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I noticed by
on 2008-08-18 08:06:00 UTC
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Voting for a permanent move here, if it can't be stopped.
...ing spamwraiths. Srsly.
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Yeah. by
on 2008-08-19 04:40:00 UTC
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Mainly because it'll probably stop for half a day or a day or two, then come again. I vote we just go here. *le sigh*
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But what if they are watching the wiki's list of changes by
on 2008-08-18 11:01:00 UTC
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And They come here to spam?
What do we do then?
Fichunter, resident expert on trolls and 4chan memes. -
You watch 4chan? by
on 2008-08-18 19:53:00 UTC
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Dude, how do you survive? When I went there for the first and only time, I was nearly blinded. Your eyes must be a helluva lot stronger than mine. :P
Then again, I may be jumping to conclusions. Just 'cuz you're an expert on 4chan memes, doesn't mean you watch it. I appear to be an expert on a load of stuff because I memorise Wikipedia periodically. :D -
Re: You watch 4chan? by
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Hey, we're not that bad. /b/ isn't the whole of 4chan.
I like the cooking, animals, and paranormal boards, though, so I may be biased. There's only so many horrible things you can do to lentils. -
I loathe the people there, but the Holders rocked. by
on 2008-08-20 01:42:00 UTC
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Speaking of which, would it count as Sueism if my agents were to accidentally pick up an Object in the course of an execution, when they realise the only way to safely get away from the Holder is to pass its test? The entire series is in second-person, so technically there is no canon Seeker whose canon life-story could be damaged, but they damn sure wouldn't be looking for the rest of the things - they'd have to portal back into the Holders canon and find an actual Seeker to pawn it off onto. But the things can't just be handed over, they have to be "won", so they'd also have fun thinking up some ridiculously humiliating and hysterically funny thing the Seeker would have to do to get it ...
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Not a fan of the Holders, but by
on 2008-08-20 15:50:00 UTC
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I rather like that idea. A new story to break up the Holders series would be nice, too-- my main issue with the Holders is that there are way too many and they ended up being much of the same, so I am in favor of an actual story for one of them.
Be ruthless in figuring out what troubles the Seeker should overcome/tape the outcome and hold a screening for other agents?
P.S. if you liked the Holders, check out the SCP series? Paranormal objects and government coverup, hooray! -
Would be another chance for Skyfire to lecture them. by
on 2008-08-20 19:58:00 UTC
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"What's in that box?"
"What box?"
"The one you're hiding behind your back." *sniff* "Why can I smell ultimate evil?"
"You can smell that?"
"I did work for a Lead Villain, you know."
Wonder what a couple of bored teenage girls would make someone do to win an object of ultimate evil power which they didn't want anymore ... maybe they could just sell it on Ebay? Going through the stupid bidding war is enough of a trial.
Which Object do you think they should use? Holder of the End is well-known because it's the first one, fairly simple to defeat and still kills you in an unpleasant manner if you screw it up, which a /b/tard troll undoubtedly would because they only pay attention to the Yiff In Hell thing. -
"Instead of ultimate evil, box contained crayon drawing." by
on 2008-08-20 20:43:00 UTC
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Would not buy again.
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Oh, and if Nevada-tan wasn't a real person ... by
on 2008-08-20 20:07:00 UTC
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... and it therefore wasn't sick and weird to glorify a seriously disturbed kid, we could mention her. The intarnetz seem to have fictionalised her to a reasonable degree, though ...
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^ Was me, incognito! Or I forgot to put a name. Whatever. (nm) by
on 2008-08-20 15:54:00 UTC
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Sorry about that. by
on 2008-08-19 11:31:00 UTC
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I assumed the 4chan livejournal page (i.e. 4chan(dot)livejournal(dot)com) was the extent of it all. I didn't realise there was more to it. *is an intarnetz noob*
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Re: Sorry about that. by
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No worries; I didn't know about the livejournal account. Hooray team Internet Ignorant Bliss!
Clearly you are my put through the looking-glass and we need to go on an adventure to solve this problem. ;) -
Adventures are fun. by
on 2008-08-19 21:00:00 UTC
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So I look at your 4chan boards and you try to avoid the LJ? ;)
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Whee, exploring! by
on 2008-08-20 15:53:00 UTC
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Psh, and let you have all the fun?
I'll just grab my bucket-on-a-stick, then it's off to explore a new medium for horrible people to fight on. -
They can be banned here, by
on 2008-08-18 11:06:00 UTC
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Repeatedly, if need be.
Also, so far the bot seems to have only been set at attacking the main Board. -
*throws in her vote with Trojie* (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 10:46:00 UTC
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Seconded. I haven't checked the IPs, but by
on 2008-08-18 08:12:00 UTC
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it could be the same source - don't know.
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Coming from GoDaddy this time. by
on 2008-08-18 08:21:00 UTC
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So it's decidedly malicious.
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Updated the Wiki about it, by the way. by
on 2008-08-18 08:26:00 UTC
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Hope you don't mind. DX
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No way, it's all brill when others update it. (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 08:29:00 UTC
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*stabs spambot repeatedly and screams in frustration* (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 08:03:00 UTC
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Umm... You guys by
on 2008-08-18 11:54:00 UTC
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This is the sort of thing trolls thrive on. Troll spamms, people freak out in hilarious ways, lulz ensues and troll is empowered to spam again.
What we should do is have someone like hS or Pidgeon write a mission where an agent pair feed a Fail!troll to the Anon hordes.
Why anon? There have been no memes mentioned. Nor have there have been any previous warnings to the board.
But the Old Anonymous are the only ones off the top of my head who would set a spelling-short spambot on a board that cherishes spellcheck for the sake of lulz.
We are known to them.
We are mentioned in the Entry on Mary sues in the sarcastic enclyclopedia dramatica: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Mary_sue
I say we mention them. -
Meh - if that's the case, we'll bore them (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 03:57:00 UTC
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LEAVE THE BOARD ALONE! (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 08:04:00 UTC
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*hugs* I did that about four minutes ago... by
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It's already two pages away.
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*hugs* Got link to other board? I've gone and lost it. (nm) by
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Time to get rid of some stress... by
on 2008-08-18 10:43:00 UTC
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We've been stressing from our little Stampede, so how's about a game?
Imagine you're an author of J.K Rowling / J.R.R Tolkein calibre. You've written a series that's rocked the world, and for all purproses, it's your baby.
THen, shock horror, you look online one day, and find fanfic. And not just any badfic, LEGENDARY Badfic, with your stories as the setting.
And, through some odd twist of fate, you also find a PPC'd version of the story.
Now, compose a letter, or a paragraph, of what you would say to the author of the Badfic, or the author of the PPC fic. -
Cease and Desist as of Last Week by
on 2008-08-23 06:56:00 UTC
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To Every Single Ficcer of My Work,
Stop. Immediately. That means 'now', in case I'm using a word too big for your tiny little brains. Any other words you don't understand, go get a dictionary. If you don't know what one is, ask an adult and then beat your head against the wall for being such a moron.
I started as a ficcer myself so I'm not at all opposed to the writing of fanfiction. I am, however, totally and completely opposed to fanfic as profoundly horrible as all of you have produced. I am disgusted and infuriated you would so totally abuse what I have spent over ten years crafting and refining and it will be over my cold, dead body such filth and trash is allowed to remain online. I will be contacting whoever runs this archive or hosts this website and making it clear that unless all fanfic for my novels is removed they will be served with a lawsuit. So will every single person--or their parents/guardians, if they're under eighteen--whose work remains posted online and, yes, I do have ways of finding out. Thirty may sound ancient to some of you and you might assume you're sooooooooo much smarter than me with computers and the internet. Keep thinking that. I'll see you in court.
Two things:
1) What kind of crack were you snorting when you got the idea for Kyle/Brian? Kyle and Brian are both straight as a ruler. Maybe it's just me and the dozens of people over the years who've beta'd my stories, but all of us agree there are plenty of reasons why neither of them will ever get their rocks off with another guy. The most they ever are is friends. Period, end of story. It's OOC for both of them and there are gay, lesbian, and bisexual characters in my novels so use them for your slash.
2) Anyone who wrote Laurel/Brian taking place within the timeline of my novels has earned my especial loathing and contempt. Not only is it incredibly poorly written and executed, not a single one of you has given them any plausible reason for him to betray Felicity--his wife and her good friend--in that way. Neither of them a nymphos with hair trigger libidos that explode into mindless passion the moment they're alone together. Brian sees her as a sister, people. A sister. Speaking of sisters, the person who wrote Brian/Shelley has twenty-four hours to remove that fic before I sic the lawyers on you. It's illegal and disgusting. Anyway, like I was saying, Brian sees her in a totally platonic manner and Laurel clearly has more than enough self-control to keep her hands off of him.
Everyone who wrote a rapefic has twenty-four hours as well before the lawyers start getting involved. Kyle wouldn't rape any woman, especially Laurel. You all disgust me, using rape as a plot device.
With complete and total sincerity,
Jill O'Brian
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To the Agents who PPC'd some of the mess made of my novels,
Good deeds should be rewarded, so how about this: autographed copies of my novels for the both of you and a cameo in my next novel. Fair enough? ;) -
Hehehe by
on 2008-08-22 17:17:00 UTC
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Dear so called 'fanwriter',
This was supposed to be fanfiction. With emphasis upon FAN. I find it difficult to believe that anyone fond enough of my work to term themselves a fan could churn out the drivel I have witnessed from you. Reread the books, please, until you remember that as my characters, they are and remain as I imagined them, not as what passes for your imagination would mutate them into.
Kindly desist from horrifying me with your illiterate nonsense. My patience is not endless. I may find myself forced to forbid fanfiction based upon my work...and rest assured that I will have you blamed for it. I look forward to either your silence or your improvement.
Cheers,
The author whose books you mangled.
Dear PPCer,
Thankyou for recognising the foul excresence that was that so-called 'story'. Thankyou for your defense of the works I have writer. You, I consider to be a very genuine fan. Would you like a cameo in my next book, or would you prefer a signed copy of the one you defended so masterfully?
Yours,
A very grateful author. -
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on 2008-08-22 17:18:00 UTC
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Ohhhhh, this is toooo good! by
on 2008-08-21 21:06:00 UTC
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Let's see...
Dear Suethor,
I am most DISPLEASED at seeing your fanfiction about my story posted online for the world to see. It is absolutely atrocious. Character X would have never fallen for your "Princess Sparklypoo of MuffinLand". Indeed, MuffinLand does not even exist in GenericFantasyLand Y!
I used to be a fanfic author, just like you. But what makes us different is that I have an editor, or a beta reader. And I actually listen to them. I place my trust in my spellcheck and I constantly revise my stories to catch errors. From what I can see, you have not.
Do review what I have said. And for ReligiousDeity Z's sake, stop misspelling the characters' names! I have heard of Official Fanfiction Universities, and I seriously am considering opening one for you and everyone else of your writing level.
To the PPC,
I once have read your fanfiction about other worlds in a similar state of disrepair, and I must say THANK YOU for bringing justice to mine as well. I am truly in your debt. -
My turn? by
on 2008-08-20 02:18:00 UTC
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To the badficcer,
This is a joke, right? No one could possibly think that that is a valid piece of writing based on the world I created.
It is creatures like you that make me consider revoking the right to write fanfiction based on my worlds. Rest assured that your name will be listed as one of the reasons if I ever do such a thing.
To the PPC,
Good work. Have an autographed copy of my books for your troubles. -
To the dear, dear...creature...who wrote that fic (yes, YOU) by
on 2008-08-19 15:57:00 UTC
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She's a lesbian.
LIVE WITH IT.
Read the flipping books.
Yours,
The Author.
To the PPCers:
Rock on.
Would you mind killing these, as well? *shoves links*
Love,
The Author.
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*cracks knuckles* Alright then... by
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To my dear, beloved, honoured fans,
If one more of you dares to write my boy Sam-chan in a romantic relationship with your little Mary Sue, I will hunt you down. I can put up with it when you make Tamaji-kun or Kami-kun in love with each other, despite their het love interests, as long as you do it well but Sam has said many times that the thought of being in that kind of relationship with a woman disgusts him. Do you know how many of the other fandoms long for a canon homosexual that they can pair with whichever male they want? Stop complaining and send your little female OC after one of the het/bi characters. Unless, of course, she's a Mary Sue. In which case, send her to take a long walk off a short pier. Your meddling kids are not wanted here.
While we're on the subject, leave Ka-chan alone. She gets barely any screentime as it is, because she's busy working behind the scenes, don't start bitching about what a 'Sue she is when she finally gets a few chapters. She's integral to the plot, I promise. Besides, with Kaya we get Tohru and I know you all love him. Maybe that's the problem.
To the PPC:
Thanks, I guess. It's flattering to know that my work can install so much passion in a person that they will really drown someone to make sure it isn't harmed in anyway. Kinda scary as well, but mostly flattering. Keep up the good work.
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Ooo, FUN! Good idea, Artic! by
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Badfic Author,
How would you feel if I went on the news tomorrow and announced a blanket ban on all fanfiction based on my stories, loudly citing yours as the last straw? I will, of course, make sure to inform every other fanfic writer of your penname, real name, email, and home address.
My dear PPCers,
Would you like a cameo in my next book? -
Ooh, you are EVIL! by
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How would you feel if I went on the news tomorrow and announced a blanket ban on all fanfiction based on my stories, loudly citing yours as the last straw? I will, of course, make sure to inform every other fanfic writer of your penname, real name, email, and home address.
You're merciless! I don't know if you could get away with giving out identifying information, other than pen name, but citing them as the reason for the ban? I like! -
Hmm, in all seriousness... by
on 2008-08-19 00:45:00 UTC
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...if any of us were to get published, what would you think of fanfiction (of any calibre) of your universe? Would you go McCaffreyish and reject the very idea, or would you welcome it, frequent forums, talk to fans?
I have no words for how flattered I'd be if I found out that people were writing fic (preferably goodfic) of one of my fictional creations. Finding out that people liked it enough to PPC for it would make me *faint*, srsly. -
Being serious by
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I'd welcome it. As I said in my letter, I started as a ficcer and I'm not opposed to the idea of fanfic. I do have issues with crapfic, though. Mary Sues will forever and always be a reality in fanfic and very few writers start out producing something that's not full of errors and weaknesses, so I'd tolerate the 'Sues and try to help the n00bs better themselves. I love to hear what people think of what I write so unless the fans gave me a reason not to, I'd definitely go to forums and talk to fans.
I'd limit slash and have zero tollerance for rape!fic and incest!fic.
Slash, unless it involves one of my GLBT characters, is off-limits for two reasons: 1) I don't like slash and 2) it would be totally OOC for the het characters of significance, on par with my posting I'd converted to Buddhism and was moving to Tibet to live a life of solitude and prayer. Like I said, I do have GLBT characters so as long as that slash isn't getting into anything like furries, scatplay, or serious BDSM and the writer isn't twisting them OOC it would be stupid to the nth degree to say something, now wouldn't it?
Rape and incest, I'd drop a note to the author telling them the story is being pulled and then to the site admin instructing them to have it gone w/in twenty-four hours or they'll talk to my lawyers*. That does not, I hope, need any explanation. If anyone does wonder why I'd have a problem, you need help.
*-There are fics out there that involve rape that are well written, in character, and treat the subject with the sensitivity it deserves. Those, I'd likely leave alone, or if it was a particularly dark fic I'd ask them to move it to an archive for more mature/adult fics. -
Unfortunately, by
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slash, rape and incest fics are a part of most fandoms. Sometimes they are well written, a lot of the time they aren't.
I write slash, I'm not ashamed to admit that, and I don't see anything wrong with it. As long as the characters are IC, then it isn't a problem. Very few people in life are completely, 100% straight or gay. Experimentation, especially amongst teens, happens. As long as these facts are acknowledged, there is nothing wrong with writing a slash fic.
If you have to break up a canonical pairing, heterosexual or otherwise, for your slash, with little reason other than 'all women are evil/his wife was abusing him/he didn't love her really', then that's not right. There should be a reason for ignoring canon pairings. You can make it a past fic if you have to. Just provide justification for the breaking up of canonical happiness.
If you, as the author, don't want fans to slash two characters then you should strive to put in as little subtext between them as possible. The pairings I write are ones that have canonical subtext in them, and in some cases are actually the most popular pairings in the fandom.
Rape!fic is trickier. It's not something I'd write, mostly because I don't think I could do it justice, but there are some characters in my fandoms that I think would carry out that act. That's not to say that all characters would rape someone, or that all people think that way, but rather that it's my personal interpretation. Unfortunately rape, non-con and dub-con fics are very rarely written well and so are an off-putting factor for many people.
Incest is not something I read or write, except on rare occasions, i.e. the relationship between the characters wasn't revealed until late in the canon and there weren't even hints of it before that. However, some people find incest interesting and some people just like to write about two 'hawt' characters having sex. Those are the people who are unlikely to be stopped by banning fanfiction of a series. Even authorial statements of 'that would never happen' are often ignored by fanfiction writers.
As for stopping kink fics, that's very difficult. You can't state 'I will allow fanfiction but only as long as everyone writes about canon relationships and doesn't deviate from what I have written at all and I don't want people writing anything kinky'. You either allow it, the good and the bad, kink fic and gen fic, or you ban it altogether. -
AU and 'What If' fics by
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If you can give good reason for going right instead of left when the road splits and keep the characters IC, go for it. If you can believably have them become a different person, have a blast.
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You make good points by
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I know you're never going to stop everyone from writing fic you don't like, or fic in general. Case in point: there are sites full of NC-17 HP fics and Jo's made it clear she doesn't want NC-17 fics written with her characters. I just don't want it showing up on ff.net and other sites that get a lot of traffic.
At this point in my writing, all the characters have settled any questions they might've had about their sexuality. Bri's a moderately conservative Christian so he'd never act on any homosexual urges and Kyle wouldn't because...he just wouldn't. There's a reason but it's complicated and involves issues and baggage from his childhood that he refuses to deal with. He still wouldn't even if he got therapy but at least he'd be able to explain why in twenty words or less. ;) The only subtext I've tried to lay for them is one of friendship and mutual respect, both personally and professionally. -
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I agree that NC-17 should not be on ff.net, mostly because of how many children frequent that site. Unfortunately there is plenty of evidence that underaged users are all over adult alternatives such as aff.net. There is no reliable way to block them out either. I know I used to lie my way into aff on a regular basis.
If there's a reason why a character would never experiment then I would respect that when writing fanfiction. Friendship fics are just as interesting to write as romance fics, sometimes even more so. -
Re: You make good points by
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The NC-17 thing was just an example of people ignoring what the author's said. I should've separated that from the next sentence, which was referring to my own theoretical very popular novels. I know people are going to write slash and rape and incest. I'd just want to keep a lid on the stuff people wrote about my characters, so I'd put the kibosh on rapefic and whatnot being posted publicly and aff.net would be one of the first sites I informed of my wishes.
aff.net does the best they can to keep minors off the site but of course it's not 100%. No matter how good of a mousetrap they build, the mice will eventually figure out a way to steal the cheese without tripping the trap.
Friendship fics are a total blast to write. That's what the majority of what I'm turning into a novel is, and there's a lot of guy/girl friendship. Two people giving each other hell and jerking each other's chains and showing up with guns and ammo when the other needs reinforcements--or stays on the phone for three hours at 2 a.m. when they need to get up for work at 6 a.m. because the friend is having a really hard time of it and needs someone. I have a guy friend like that and I love him to death. Platonically, of course. ;) -
I'd be gleeful by
on 2008-08-22 16:55:00 UTC
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And also rather smug. I'd correct people on how OOC the characters were under sockpuppet names, then drop an "I am the author, THAT's how I know they're OOC" bomb.
...Besides, I'd throw in subtext liek whoa just to see what the results were. :p -
Yeah, it does sound awesome. by
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I was reading Narnia Suspian fic the other day, and read this amazing story...
Walk This World
The author of this fic evidently is a published author. Isn't that neat? If I was C.S Lewis (Which I'm not, obviously), I'd be flattered at the thought of a PUBLISHED AUTHOR playing in my sandbox.
And there's Cassie Claire of Draco Trilogy fame. Have you guys read her published work City of Bones? -
Yes, I've read her original fic by
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She plagerized not a small amount of the Draco Trilogy, if you hadn't already heard, and the first two books of her trilogy have been sporked over at . I sporked City of Ash, or whatever the title of the second book is. People familiar with HP and Buffy have found numerous instances where it's like all CC did was change the name (i.e., Auror to Shadowstalker). Also, an assortment of characters, items, abilities, and other such things from Laurel Hamilton's Anita Blake Series, the Wheel of Time series, the comic book series Fables, the Deathgate Cycle, and the Deathstalker series have been identified. Valentine, for example, and Clary being able to do magic with runes she doesn't know? Apparently, taken straight from Weis and Hickman's Deathgate Cycle.
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Cassie Claire? by
on 2008-08-21 21:37:00 UTC
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Yeah, I've read part of City of Bones. I have to say, I wasn't really impressed. Some of the turns of phrases she used were really unusual, and not in a particularly clever or correct way, either. Cos yeah. Some of the descriptions were just meh, as well. And I've read work a lot better than hers that does deserve to be published on merit.
Rather than on popularity gained from internet drama.
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Me? No I really haven't read it. by
on 2008-08-21 21:58:00 UTC
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But she was a brilliant fanwriter. I suppose after writing about other people's creations, you tend not to have much inside yourself for writing original fiction.
I only really pointed her out because she's famous here for her fanfic, and now she's published and all. That's rather odd, you know, to see the name of someone you know online on the cover of a book. -
Hmm... by
on 2008-08-19 18:13:00 UTC
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If I ever got popular I fear that my characters would be 'shipped incessantly and without regard to their actual preferences (or lack thereof). A couple of them wouldn't mind, but that's beside the point. The worst things is that "daughter of" Sues would be plausible for those same characters, because they live in a setting without birth control as we know it and they don't really care, either.
I guess I'd be more amused than annoyed most of the time. Legendary Badfic WOULD make me upset at the stupidity--I'd like to think I would attract intelligent readers, and I would be disappointed to find otherwise. As other people have pointed out, though, actually reading fanfic of my books is probably a no-no. I might do moderated chats and interviews to try and keep a handle on things, though. If the PPC wanted to interview me, well, that would be sweet. I'd trust them to ask all the right questions. {= )
Honestly, though, I don't even know if I want to be that popular. Published, yes, but I'd be very happy with a small body of dedicated readers. Much less BS that way.
... My work can get hugely popular after I die. That would be cool.
~Neshomeh, who thinks the "real world" is big and scary and doesn't want much to do with it most days. -
Well... by
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I'd be a hypocrite if I denounced it, seeing how much fanfic I read and write. Although I don't think legally I'd be allowed to read it, because then there's the risk that some fanbrat would accuse me of plagiarism, but I'd read it secretly. And clandestinely nudge my PPC friends to please take care of any badfic.
I would be thrilled that enough people read my stuff that there was fic for it. -
About the legality... by
on 2008-08-20 00:59:00 UTC
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Isn't that only a risk if you're going to produce more books in the same series? Though clandestine readings are probably wise anyway...
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But pretty much all my stories are in the same connected universe (sort of like Stephen King's), so chances are any character I publish could show up again.
So, to be on the safe side, I would not want it being known that I read fanfiction. -
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I'd be flattered beyond belief, and twice as much if the PPC went after the badfic.
As for reading the fanfic, it's hard not to remember what happened to MZB. I'd love to read what they wrote -- but I wouldn't dare. People like OTW would make me twice as paranoid as they already do, since it would be my work they'd be trying to stake a legal claim on. -
When I write, I usually have alternate options in mind. by
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Meaning that I can see a particular story or situation going several different ways. I also sometimes have the characters in one place at one time, and then somewhere else a week later, and I don't write what happened between.
So I'd be really pleased if people read my books, liked the stories, and then tried to write stories explaining what might have happened in the interim. Or if they wrote AUs of the books. Or if they wrote stories that could fit in alongside mine. It shows that they like the books and want to read/think more about the characters.
I'd hate badfic, though, because I'd be heartbroken to see the lack of understanding. -
I'm the kind of author by
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who would love that and probably end up putting little hints in the canon to encourage odd yaoi pairings. I wouldn't like badfic of course but anything would be worth any goodfic that my work generated. As for talking to fans... I might actually create my own account on ff.net or somewhere, pretend to be just a fan, and write my own fanfic. See if anyone figures out who I am. I'd try my best to encourage the fandom, the very idea sends me into euphoria.
~Oozaru Angel, who dreams of one day becoming a world famous mangaka. -
I'd be insanely flattered by
on 2008-08-19 03:41:00 UTC
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But if I found more than five Legendary Badfics without Legendary Goodfics to balance it out, I would cry. Potentially, if I found a story I really like, I would include a cameo from the lead character, or make a reference to the character's home-town, but nothing too in-depth.
But yes, overall, I'd be very flattered. And if the PPC thought it were good enough to patrol, I'd probably make a pseudo-alias and create Agents to patrol my Universe. Funfunfun. -
I don't think I could ever be certain, but... by
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Well, it makes a huge difference that I've been in the fanfic world for long enough that I know how good and bad it can be. That makes a huge difference.
I'd certainly be flattered by goodfic; I think I'd enjoy be surprised by the creativity and detail that people create and expand on. Alternate universes would be interesting, and if there's a lot of angstfic or "fix-it" AUs, I'd be pleased because that means I've pulled their emotional strings the way I wanted.
As for badfic... knowing what I know, I like to think I'd accept it as a necessary evil - after all, twelve year old fanbrats will be thinking it, even if they don't write it down. Seeing X-rated bad slash with two of my most beloved het characters would probably make me shudder, close the window, and contact the PPC for some bleepka.
Seriously? I don't know. I'd make as many flat ("No, he IS straight") statements as possible to dissuade the "but there's no PROOF!" types, and make it clear what types I don't apperciate, but beyond that...
I doubt I'd make a Rice or McCaffery-style flat rejection; it just forces them underground. At least if they're writing something, they're still interested enough to buy more books and send me more money. ;p
I really don't know. I'm very protective of Agents Sedri and Iza, and I find myself getting prickly when offering them for a cameo because I want to make sure they stay in character. Thankfully I can trust everyone here to look at my missions and do their best.
Finding that PPCers were patrolling badfic for my continumn would make me feel very, very honoured. -
I'd be happy to know it was there ... by
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... but either do my best to avoid looking at it in terror of running across a Spear Incident equivalent, or comb the entire fandom under a fake name to make sure nobody *had* made a Spear Incident equivalent.
Then I'd give up, write the SI equivalent myself under a sock puppet account, and watch the fun. -
And then the f_w reaction! :D (nm) by
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*drools* by
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It would make me unbelievably happy. <3 'Cause it would mean that other people liked my characters as much as I did. I'd probably dance around and *squee* for a while. Not a fangirl squee, though; the happy-beyond-belief squee. There's a distinct difference. *nods*
Goodfic would be even more awesome, though I might have to point the PPC at the badfic. <3 Or spork it myself. Which would be funny. -
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It would make me unbelievably happy.
Goodfic would be even more awesome, though I might have to point the PPC at the badfic.
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I'd totally PPC it. I'd find doing so hilarious.
I'd also probably create a sockpuppet account and post AUs on what was going to happen if it was a series and then put in the disclaimer [X Universe] DOES belong to me! Ahahahaha! Just because I get bored of reading [X Universe] doesn't belong to me. BAWWW. -
It'd be terribly amusing if no one believed you... by
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You'd probably get a lot of hate mail from fans OF you who are trying to DEFEND you TO you... very, very funny. *grin*
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I'd love it. by
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And then I'd announce it on my website, or something... *happy sigh*
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*grin* Indeed! (nm) by
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Ow, my brain. Funny though. (nm) by
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would be hilarious.
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Nooooo! Trojie, save me from the plotbunny!
And Princess Sparklymuffinpoo kissed Legols and tehy flew into the sundset 2 live happilty evah aftah!!1
J.R.R Tolkien: *faints* Glad that's over...
C.S Lewis: *pats back* Don't worry, ol' buddy.
J.K Rowling: *sickingly sweet smile* Clive, your turn.
C.S Lewis: *blink* Come again, Joanne?
J.K Rowling: We've read "Princess of SilverFairyWood" for John's world and "My Immortal" for mine. Now...it's time for "kaspyun and petar luv storie". *sniggers, then looks sympathetic* It's not in our power to stop these people from coming around and mucking in our worlds.
C.S Lewis: *sigh* You are correct, madam. *braces for self*
kaspyun and petar luv storie
C.S Lewis: This is going to be bad, isn't it?
J.R.R Tolkien: *has recovered* Indeed, my friend, it will be.
Hahaha...just a little drabble...not so bad after all... -
Not that hard to imagine. by
on 2008-08-19 01:32:00 UTC
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Since the Inklings basically held their own sporkings of awful writing from around their time.
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*cracks up* (nm) (nm) by
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OOOH! BLEEPOLATE! by
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That's exactly what I wanted!
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I want the wilver ones! by
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Most of us have made NM & NMs at some point, Makari. It's a rite of passage.
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Aww, no octarine? :P (nm) by
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I claim the blello! (nm) by
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Urples are mine! (nm) by
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Ooooh, NM&NMs! Haven't seen them for a while. (nm) by
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*headdesk* Still figuring the board out. (nm) by
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No worries - we've all done it. Besides, they're chewy. (nm) by
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Ooh, entertaining. by
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Let's think... This could be quite interesting. Wonderful idea.
Dear fanfiction author,
Really. If you honestly think this situation is plausible, I recommend re-reading my book(s). Several times if necessary.
I ask you to then remind yourself that this is my world, and I am gracious enough to let you play in it. Continue as you are, and that permission may soon be revoked - reading this "story", and I use the term loosely, was almost physically painful.
Also, spelling and grammar are not an optional part of writing. Your English teachers must have despaired of you, and your math and history teachers probably weren't far behind.
Enclosed are the largest dictionary and thesaurus I could find. MAKE USE OF THEM.
Regards,
Me. <3
And as for the PPC...
Greetings, PPC-ers; I commend the brave agents who took on [story name], and thank you for your dedication to your Duty.
I think certain of my Canons are about to acquire an instinctive trust for people with DMS and DBS flash-patches.
Keep it up; you're slowly making the internet a better place.
Regards,
Me.
[Enclosed, an autographed, collector's-edition box set.] -
Ooh, entertaining. by
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Let's think... This could be quite interesting. Wonderful idea.
Dear fanfiction author,
Really. If you honestly think this situation is plausible, I recommend re-reading my book(s). Several times if necessary.
I ask you to then remind yourself that this is my world, and I am gracious enough to let you play in it. Continue as you are, and that permission may soon be revoked - reading this "story", and I use the term loosely, was almost physically painful.
Also, spelling and grammar are not an optional part of writing. Your English teachers must have despaired of you, and your math and history teachers probably weren't far behind.
Enclosed are the largest dictionary and thesaurus I could find. MAKE USE OF THEM.
Regards,
Me.
And as for the PPC...
Greetings, PPC-ers; I commend the brave agents who took on [story name], and thank you for your dedication to your Duty.
I think certain of my Canons are about to acquire an instinctive trust for people with DMS and DBS flash-patches.
Keep it up; you're slowly making the internet a better place.
Regards,
Me.
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Hrmmm ... tricky. by
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What I'd say to a badficcer depends on what the main "bad" part of the fic was. Bad SPAG a la "legolas"? Anatomy fail a la the Spear Incident? Unintentional creepiness a la "soulless shell"'s seventeen-year-old who behaves like a seven-year-old?
What I'd say to the PPC is easy, though:
"Hi, guys. It's me. Just called to tell you that ... well, that badfic you recently sporked? Actually, I wrote that and posted it anonymously as an experiment. I wanted to see how bad I could make it before people stopped telling me it was great. They love it. I'm scared. Hug me now." -
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To the badficcer:
The book they're screwing up from. And the words "Read it again" printed and underlined in neat handwriting on the first page.
To the PPCer:
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My turn. by
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Dear Badficcer,
Congratulations. Due to your efforts, my carefully planned timeline is now so thoroughly off-track that all your favorite characters are going to die and the world is doomed to fall into the gaping plothole you left behind, implode, and cease to have ever existed. Yes, you read that right.
I hope you're happy.
~Neshomeh
Dear PPCer(s),
Thank the Powers! You have no idea how grateful I am--the lawyers would never have got there in time to fix that mess! Thank you a thousand times over for saving my world. You rock.
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Hee. by
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Dear 'fan'
Although I admire your creativity, I would prefer it if you could act out your twisted fetishes with your own characters. There is a reason the book does not correspond to your ideas.
Thanks,
[author's name]
PPCer
Dear [PPCer's name]
I applaud your efforts. Carry on; I have no mind to stop you.
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Ooooh, fun... by
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To the badficcers:
Dear fanbrats,
Flattered though I am that you wished to explore and expand on the world I created, I would prefer that you do it somewhere where neither I not anyone else has to be exposed to it.
Remove it, please, before my books curl up and cry.
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Please would you kill this as soon as possible? Preferably yesterday?
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Dear Badficcers: While I'm glad you know about my books, I have to wonder if you've read them -and, if so, how recently. I suggest that you set aside all current conceptions of the characters and read the books again with an open mind. This may help you to write something that bears a resemblance to the original, as opposed to something that is similar to it only in the names of the characters.
Dear PPCers: Glad to have you aboard. Sally forth with my blessing. If you want the Canons to help, drop me a line. -
Hmm.... by
on 2008-08-18 18:45:00 UTC
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To the badfic writers:
I will find you. No, seriously, I will find you. I can do that. Take it down.
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My turn... by
on 2008-08-18 17:48:00 UTC
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Dearest fangirls and fanboys,
I owe you a debt of gratitude. While I'm surprised you have the cranial wherewithal to read my books, let alone write fanfiction about them, I am very happy that you have. Regardless of what you pounded out on your keyboard while you were watching TV, you have made me a very wealthy woman. I will spend the money you used on my books to promote better literacy and reading comprehension in the public schools, so your like does not surface again.
In addition, your fanfiction is so miserably inept that my writing looks infinitely better the more you try to mangle it. Anyone who didn't like my books the first time around will now think I'm Voltaire in comparison to your literary excretions.
However, I cannot allow my canon to go unprotected. Please be patient while your fic is exterminated. Thanks you.
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How could I not? by
on 2008-08-18 13:07:00 UTC
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To the badficcer
Dear sir, madam, or more likely, genderless beast from the depths of some swamp or other,
I am very glad people think my books are good enough that they wish to write more. However, I am not glad to find that you are the one who chose to write more. Have you considered taking up a career in chopping off your own hands to prevent yourself butchering any more books with your presumably drug-inspired drivel? You should really try it out.
To the PPCer
Aha! So now I know who all those people in black running around Malij were.
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A request... by
on 2008-08-19 05:26:00 UTC
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Could I get an up-to-date E-mail address from you?
Thanks!
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Sure. by
on 2008-08-19 21:42:00 UTC
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Generally I use either huinesoron(at)hotmail(dot)com, or noldo(dot)nargothrond(at)gmail(dot)com. Either of them is fine.
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To some who call themselves 'authors'... by
on 2008-08-18 12:15:00 UTC
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Quit mangling my canon already. I feel like I'm on a goddamn spit-roast on high speed. Any more of this and I'll send a posthumous message to my lawyers to sue your asses off.
To the canon-purists: yes, I did put that character in the timeline awry to mess with you. I like seeing your theories for it, especially the one about the amnesiac schizophrenic.
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on 2008-08-18 11:07:00 UTC
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To the Badficcer
Back off bitch. Mine.
To the PPC:
Duuuuuude! Thanks a bundle! Have a free copy of my books.
- Trojie, not very imaginative tonight
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Is it gone yet? (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 15:09:00 UTC
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*covers Ansela's mouth* Ssh! It can hear you! (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 06:58:00 UTC
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It could very possibly be. by
on 2008-08-19 04:36:00 UTC
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Now that I've posted that, of course, it's going to come back on a spampage and the Narrative Laws of Comedy will laugh evilly. *sigh*
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Why won't it leave us alone? by
on 2008-08-19 01:52:00 UTC
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I probably missed something very important but where are all these links coming from, and who is responsable for this?
Also does this have something to do with the fact that my MSN acount (which I trust) has branded e-mails from this board as spam? -
I don't think we're sure by
on 2008-08-19 02:38:00 UTC
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TechnoDann is the one to ask, I think, as he's been emailing the source to get them to stop. It's definitely spam, but I don't think your msn account has much to do with it.
New (probably NOT temporary) board is here:
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Thanks (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 05:49:00 UTC
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Until tomorrow morning, at least by
on 2008-08-18 17:51:00 UTC
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It only comes at night, attacking in the deepest darkness. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Depending on the time zone. by
on 2008-08-19 15:07:00 UTC
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In some places, it's attacking at high noon.
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*snicker* (nm) by
on 2008-08-18 21:55:00 UTC
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I hope so. by
on 2008-08-18 16:06:00 UTC
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Wow, my first time looking at this board in years and that... thing... shows up.
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Yes. Scary. by
on 2008-08-18 18:40:00 UTC
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We are operating fromhere for the time being, since this board is being attacked.
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Re: Yes. Scary. by
on 2008-08-18 21:34:00 UTC
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Thanks for the heads-up. I thought this place looked a little empty.
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An update on the board... by
on 2008-08-19 05:22:00 UTC
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So, the flooder switched servers for last night's bombardment. The new server seems to be coming through GoDaddy, although I'm really not sure - the IP is a good bit harder to trace, to the point where I don't want to start bothering admins.
The MO is still entirely the same - most likely a script that posts the same thing over and over, as often as it can get away with it.
Now, I've E-mailed back and forth a few times with the original host, and they really can't do anything about it without logs, which will tell them a whole ton more than the IP address can - that IP address is the address of a server running more than three hundred website accounts, so finding a single script running what's really a commonplace request is nearly impossible to track down.
So, I E-mailed the server.com people, and while they removed the first set of spamming, they didn't even E-mail me back to say that they really can't give me (or the first host) the logs needed to axe the spammer's account.
And then the flood came back from a different IP address last night...
That's all I know for a fact. What comes after this is just speculation.
The flooder seems to be out to get us. The first server he used was not a free (or even terribly inexpensive - $100 per year) service, and I suspect the second was the same. Furthermore, he didn't stop after the first banning and go after easier targets.
Also, try googling for phrases that he used - the only hits you'll get are from our board. This wasn't a mass spamming of server.com forums, this was a rather precisely targeted attack.
As a correlary to that last point, note that the PPC board is rather hard to find if you don't know what you're looking for. All the Google searches I could think of to find an active server.com forum don't bring us up for ten pages or more, after tons of other forums, including some rather controversial political ones. If our flooder was just looking for a good target, we really aren't it.
So, where does this leave us?
We can't get the logs we need to get the flooder's server space killed. Thus, at least for now, we can't get the attack to stop.
On the plus side, the server.com people responded very promptly to my E-mail by removing the flood and quite probably banning the IP address as well. Reporting to them seems to be, at least temporarily, the best option.
I'm sorry I haven't had more time to spend on this - work is absolutely crazy, I'm working nine hour days, and expecting closer to twelve on Wednesday.
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This may or may not be important... by
on 2008-08-19 16:28:00 UTC
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...but I found something very strange while Googling for answers. I'm not techno savvy enough to really help out, so I went about looking in my own way. Namely, I Googled the phrases binservices spambot, and got one hit. A site called Sign Up 4 Spam. I don't know if this is relevant or not, since I could not load the page, but to me it seemed extremely suspicious.
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That does look suspicious. by
on 2008-08-19 16:59:00 UTC
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In the text of the search result, it even lists the exact address we've been spammed with.
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signupforspam.com by
on 2008-08-19 18:15:00 UTC
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That site seems to be one where people post the email addresses of people they want to get spammed (it's been down for a couple of days, btw). I noticed yesterday that binservices was there. Someone's clearly pissed at them. Whether that somebody is our board flooder, someone else who got targeted in some way by the flooder, or someone else who has an unrelated grudge against binservices, though, is impossible to determine. There have been some spam-bait posts on Usenet using the binservices email as well.
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Is it possible... by
on 2008-08-19 20:51:00 UTC
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that binservices is a sockpuppet email account? I'm a complete noob with all of this, but I just thought that maybe someone created the binservices account just to spam.
I'm probably adding 2+2 and getting 60 or something, but I just thought I'd add what I think. Of course, it doesn't explain binservices being on signupforspam.com.
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on 2008-08-20 01:57:00 UTC
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We all started as noobs. Let me see if I can explain somewhat less geekly than I usually do.
The yourwebapps.com forums are vulnerable to spam because no login, or authentication of any type, is required. If you look down the board a bit, you'll see a post entitled "If this posts, the proxy IP isn't blocked (nm)". You'll also see that it was posted from 72.167.203.129, the IP that the spammer has been using. He didn't post that, though; I did.
72.167.203.129 is a proxy server. It acts as an intermediary between a user (me, the spammer, someone whose company's firewall blocks Fark, whoever) and the actual site. Let's say I want to post "If this posts..." here via that proxy. I tell the proxy what web page I want, it sends the request to the webserver, then passes it back to me. The webserver only ever sees the proxy's IP, not mine; only the proxy server knows who I am. When I enter my post, it goes to the proxy server, not yourwebapps.com; the proxy server then submits it to yourwebapps, and it gets posted as normal. In fact, I'm using a proxy server right now, though not that one.
So, anyone who has net access can post on our board. They don't need an email address, an account anywhere (a library or other public computer will work fine), or much of anything else. It's like the old days of the Net, before the great spam plague. If they go through a proxy server, they can post without giving anyone but the owner of the proxy server any clue who they are, and for obvious reasons, the proxy owner won't talk without (or even with, if they're offshore) a court order.
The binservices email address is listed on the home (and only) page, a placeholder, of binservices.com, which was registered for a while before this happened. So it has at least some solidity to it, unlike the other phantoms I've been chasing.
It wasn't created to spam because the type of spam that has been done -- namely, of this board -- doesn't need a valid email account. Or a valid anything, actually. It just needs someone knowing where the board is. The Usenet posts connected to it, which also (like signupforspam.com, and our flood) seem to be attempts at getting the real binservices spammed, likewise don't require any type of verification.
So, there's no need for the actual binservices gmail account, website, or anything else, to be involved at all. It's apparently someone else our spammer has a beef with, and he's trying to kill two birds with one spam by flooding our board, and getting us mad at the other guy, who had nothing to do with the spam.
I could post here as binservices, the Queen, Techno-Dann, or you, and the board would be equally happy to accept my posts. No sock puppet accounts required. You know I'm not you, and you could figure out that I'm not Dann because I'm not using the same IP he does, but for all you know, I am binservices or the Queen.
Does that make any sense?
There's a great webiste — How Stuff Works — that explains about how all sorts of things work, including a lot of Internet things. It's a good place to go to get de-noobified, and a lot more fun than reading RFC's.
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Okay, I think I get it. by
on 2008-08-20 14:53:00 UTC
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Thanks for explaining - back there, I just did what I usually do and jumped in with both feet before remembering I couldn't swim. Your explanation made a lot of sense.
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It makes a lot of sense by
on 2008-08-20 07:02:00 UTC
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This from a I-don't-care-HOW-it-works-I'm-much-more-interested-in-what-I-can-DO-with-it type. Cheers, WC.
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That makes a frightening amount of sense. by
on 2008-08-20 03:28:00 UTC
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I'm scared.
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I sincerely fear this might be my fault... by
on 2008-08-19 10:28:00 UTC
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Because of my interviews of various authors for my university essay - I included a bunch of obvious badficcers (some of whom never responded), including a Legendary Badfic author (who did respond).
It wouldn't have been hard for any one of them to google my penname and find both my livejournal (which does link to the PPC, as I archive my missions there), my FFN account, and the Board, all three of which appear in the first two pages of a google search.
I don't think I said anything offensive to anyone, but the very fact that I went out and interviewed some *cough* 'Highly Sensitive' authors about their work, while being part of a community that so blatently mocks it, could have offended them. (I'm not inclined to suspect the Legendary Badfic author, though, as his tone in the emails was quite satisfied, but then again, I could be wrong.)
If this is the case... guys, I am SO sorry. I considered using a second (little used) penname to send my interviews to the badficcers and other random writers (as opposed to the people who know me by this name), but figured that it would be all too easy for them to be connected (how many people do the same project at the same time?), so I didn't bother.
Until now, I didn't really think it was connected, but from what you've said above, Dann... well, the timing is just too close.
I really, really hope I'm wrong. I'm even hoping that the offended spammer (if that is indeed the case) found this through another link just so I can stop feeling guilty. It wasn't even a foolish choice on my part, but if this is the result... damm, I'm sorry. -
don't worry about it.. *hug* by
on 2008-08-19 17:14:00 UTC
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If someone is out looking for trouble, they'll find it - this time they found us. It happens to every internet community, the only difference is we aren't quite as prepared as most.
We'll deal with this thing, we've done it before. -
*hugs back* Thanks, friend. (nm) by
on 2008-08-20 00:50:00 UTC
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Don't worry, you weren't to know. by
on 2008-08-19 11:42:00 UTC
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Besides which, I doubt it is your fault. If someone approached me for an internet interview (hey, alliteration! :D) I wouldn't think to google their penname. I'd just sit down and do the questions, and tell them if teir was something I found offensive.
Besides which, you're not getting spam on your LJ account, so I doubt it's them. I might be demonstrating my complete naivety on the minds of badficcers here, but I don't think that it's your fault. Partly because I doubt they'd be this dedicated. -
I hope you're right by
on 2008-08-20 00:51:00 UTC
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On all counts, really. Thanks, lynx.
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Regarding the IP by
on 2008-08-19 09:28:00 UTC
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You're not going to get the logs. 72.167.203.129 traces back to a proxy server. Several, actually, including unblockedspace.com. I don't have the IP from the previous attack, but I wouldn't doubt that it was another one. Kind of by definition, they don't have or won't hand over logs, and getting their host's logs will generally require a court order.
What's intersting is the binservices connection. That's the email address listed on binservices.com ... are they the targets of a joe job? Why are we getting flooded with something that is apparently trying to get them spammed or abused? If it's someone who has it in for us, which is certainly possible, why not flood us with some suitable PPC-targeted insults?
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I think I may have been misunderstood... by
on 2008-08-19 09:33:00 UTC
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The first attack came from an IP belonging to a web hosting website, cyrtexhosting.com. I E-mailed their abuse line, and they agreed that flooding our forum was most definitely abuse worth terminating the account that was responsible, but they needed the logs from yourwebapps.com to work out who it was. I E-mailed yourwebapps.com's abuse line, and while they deleted the spam posts, they didn't send the logs to either myself or Cyrtex.
You are entirely correct, though, there is something about this that definitely does not add up. I'm still trying to work out exactly what it is... -
Logs by
on 2008-08-19 09:42:00 UTC
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Ah, yes, I misunderstood which logs you meant. I really should be doing my sleeping somewhat more horizontally.
If you want to discuss this out of view of the perpetrator, contact me via the Pit or GAFF and I'll give you my email. For obvious reasons I don't want to post it here; I'd rather not find it being used to solicit ypur pics in some other forum. -
If this posts, the proxy IP isn't blocked (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 09:33:00 UTC
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Like I asked earlier... by
on 2008-08-19 06:56:00 UTC
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Who the hell did we piss of this time?
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God knows. Who links the PPC on their LiveJournals? by
on 2008-08-19 08:54:00 UTC
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May be that someone who got their fic sporked is taking it a little too hard...
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If I was a Suethor...(Eru forbid...) by
on 2008-08-21 20:45:00 UTC
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...And the PPC sporked me, I would probably look for revenge, too...
But at least I haven't really linked the PPC on my LJ, though it's on my Friends page. I don't think that they targeted you guys through MY LJ...my name doesn't strike fear into the hearts of badficcers just yet...
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Let's hope not. by
on 2008-08-19 23:45:00 UTC
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I think the author of C*l*br**n got troll superpowers from the sheer horrificness of their 'fic. If they come after us, computers will probably start spitting flames at anyone who tries to enter the Board.
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Ouch by
on 2008-08-23 19:30:00 UTC
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Ye gods, I hope not. That would *hurt*.
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I linked to it once... by
on 2008-08-19 21:16:00 UTC
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but that was only when the PPC movie was first announced, and it was long before anyone knew my LJ existed. So that doesn't really help.
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*checks LJ* by
on 2008-08-19 23:34:00 UTC
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I link to the Board. I also link to the Wiki. However, I don't recall pissing anyone off recently.
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I've linked a couple Suethors to the Wiki FAQ. by
on 2008-08-19 15:03:00 UTC
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From the Wiki, they would be able to find the address of the Board.
But these were Suethors who had responded nicely to my concrit and asked for help improving their work--not the sort I'd expect to be behind a vicious spam attack.
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I wish I knew... (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 06:58:00 UTC
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Yeah. by
on 2008-08-19 05:36:00 UTC
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The logic of that does look about right.
It's also possible they're using friends for server access as well, whoever is doing this, instead of shelling out the cash to do it themselves. -
we really appreciate you doing all this, Dann by
on 2008-08-19 05:24:00 UTC
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and for keeping us all up to date. Without you, hS and July we wouldn't even have a temporary Board going.
-Trojie, appreciatively -
Sixthed! You guys rock! (nm) by
on 2008-08-19 21:09:00 UTC
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Fifthed! :D (nm) by
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Fourthed (nm) by
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Thirded. by
on 2008-08-19 15:06:00 UTC
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Thank you, people!
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*flail* by
on 2008-08-19 05:32:00 UTC
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I didn't do anything though!
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As I said after the first lot stopped... by
on 2008-08-19 08:56:00 UTC
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We have you to thank for alerting Techno-Dann in the first place, July. We also have you to thank for helping spread the word so people could find this new haven.
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you ran around shouting 'CONSTANT VIGILANCE POTTER!' by
on 2008-08-19 07:22:00 UTC
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at people until someone knew how to fix it.
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*Snickers* by
on 2008-08-21 13:13:00 UTC
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Can't go by this on the main page without chuckling to myself.
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Seconded. (nm) by
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The Thin-Skinned Annoy Me by
on 2008-08-19 08:46:00 UTC
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In an RPG I joined, one of the players started a post with this:
They're somewhere in the middle of Oxford and by the middle he means middle-of-nowhere, because there's nothing but countryside for miles. All lush green rolling hills and the occasional spectacle of grazing livestock.
I was confused at first because I've been to Oxford and it doesn't look much like that, and then it dawned on me the person likely meant Oxfordshire, so in the OOC post I said "Just a note: it's Oxfordshire, not Oxford". Tonight I check my email and I have two people jumping on me. One says "I think she knows what she was talking about when she made the post", to which I replied "Unless there's a part of Oxford I haven't seen before, then based on the description in that post, it sounds like she's talking about Oxfordshire, not the city of Oxford."
The other was downright hostile: "Just a note (and unlike the first gentleman, I mean this to completely be a bastard): Obviously your perception is skewed. This is not your journal and certainly not the place for you to come criticizing anyone. So, uh, kindly redraw that line and step behind it. Better yet, let me help you out.
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There you go, go on and step right on behind that. Thanks for visiting. Come see us again soon. :D
I'm out of line correcting a detail? MY perception is skewed? *twitchtwitchboom*
I tried to be polite when I replied with "No offense was meant and I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was pointing up a detail I noticed and I wasn't aware pointing something out in the OOC area was out of line. I didn't criticize anything she wrote or how she was portraying the character, I pointed out an error in a place name. Big difference. So sorry if people here mistake that for criticizing them."
I checked a map of England and when I looked up Oxford, it came up as Oxford, Oxfordshire, UK. Have I missed something and saying 'Oxford' goes for the city and the surrounding shire? -
As a native... by
on 2008-08-19 10:16:00 UTC
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...Or near enough (Buckinghamshire/Oxfordshire border) Oxford is the name of the city, Oxfordshire is outside the city limits. There IS a very nice botanic garden in Oxford, but it isn't THAT big, and the only livestock are waterfowl who will come and mug you for food!
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Thank you. I do so enjoy being correct by
on 2008-08-19 10:37:00 UTC
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I didn't make it to the botanical gardens when I was there, unfortunately. Next time!
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*pats shoulder* At least you can come and rant to us... by
on 2008-08-19 10:13:00 UTC
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We're on your side. Comfort yourself with this thought: that thin skin of theirs won't hold out long. Eventually they'll be sorry. (Of course, acid may help speed the process...(
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That's what I was counting on by
on 2008-08-19 10:38:00 UTC
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If nothing else, I knew I'd get a sane, intelligent, reasonable response from y'all.
Put the acid away, Sedri. I see you holding it there behind your back, trying to pretend like you aren't! ;p -
Damn - caught by
on 2008-08-19 11:06:00 UTC
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*hands over acid beaker* Would've been fun... *pouts*
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No stealing my fun! by
on 2008-08-19 11:11:00 UTC
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Find your own thin skinned person to acid etch!
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*Steals acid* by
on 2008-08-19 14:40:00 UTC
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*And goes off stalking the person behind the spam-bot*.
Might I enquire, what kind of acid is this? Because I only use Grade A Basilisk Poison as mine. It burns, AND it kills if you don't get burnt. -
Hydrocholoric by
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I used it in my first mission. *evil cackle* Thin skin won't last long...
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But... but... Sulphuric acid is love. by
on 2008-08-20 05:30:00 UTC
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Because it does nifty stuff when poured on sugar.
...I wonder. What would it do when poured on a sugary-sweet 'Sue? Food for thought. ^_^
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Sulphuric? by
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I go with Prussic acid all the way! It is rather toxic!
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Na! Flouric! by
on 2008-08-21 00:18:00 UTC
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Hydrogen flouride, all the way, baby!
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Flouric acid my be fun... by
on 2008-08-30 04:17:00 UTC
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But I am a fan of getting `Sues to "accidentally" add together glicerine and nitric acid. The fun is never ending.
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prussic acid makes things go boom when it contacts them...
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Ooo, what a thought. DO Sues = sugar? by
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I believe this requires some empirical testing. *wicked grin*
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I'm sure... by
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that it will be enlightening *Evil grin*.
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Experiment #1: by
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Find a sugary-sweet 'Sue
Find her glass or bottle of water
Replace the contents of said glass/bottle with sulphuric acid, which just happens to be clear. Please do this without the 'Sue noticing.
Wait for the 'Sue to take a drink.
Take detailed notes and share.
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Well, write it! This is PERFECT for a... by
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well, not a mission, exactly, but an interlude in HQ. *grin*
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Well... by
on 2008-08-21 06:30:00 UTC
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...not quite as the procedure directed, but close enough.
I have no idea if I've actually managed to be humorous. I try, but... yeah. It's not something you can really judge for yourself.
The Agents mentioned are the ones I plan to write on a fairly regular basis once I get Permission. I'm fairly certain that, since this is technically not a mission, it's fine. I hope.
Here.
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That is BRILLIANT. We need to have an Acid-testing Division in the PPC.
How do different types of Sues respond to different types of acid?
A lot could be done with that...
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that it would fall under the purview of the DMSE&R
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Man, I really need to explore the wiki... by
on 2008-08-22 21:31:00 UTC
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much more thoroughly than I have. *bookmarks it for future use*
I feel a thorough laggard for not having even touched it before this moment. Thanks, Ansela!
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No problem (nm) by
on 2008-08-23 00:06:00 UTC
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Two thumbs up! by
on 2008-08-21 11:56:00 UTC
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And a Bleepolate Cake...
I snickered when I saw my name, or at least, my Agent's name. And c'mon, the Basilisk venom killed TWO Horcruxes in Harry Potter, they've gotta be at least slightly corrosive. -
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on 2008-08-21 18:22:00 UTC
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Heheh, that's true. Don't tell Kat, though; she'll still assert that it doesn't count. :P Perhaps she just hasn't read HP in a long while.
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That's awesome! by
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It's almost enough to make me do chemistry... almost... anyway, good job, and nice writing style.
We should try dousing Sues with different types of acid for, er, scientific research. -
Scientific research is the way forwards! by
on 2008-08-21 11:00:00 UTC
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The fact that it will be cathartic amusement as well is merely an added bonus and not the reason we're doing it, really...
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Of course not; pure scientific dedication! by
on 2008-08-21 23:33:00 UTC
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No self-satisfaction here! M-mh! *looks innocent*
Agents Sedri and Iza would like to volunteer the results of their previous experiment: ingestion of hydrochloric acid. The results were... interesting. *grin*
(erp; I'm running late. No time to write up details or find the link for you - it's on my livejournal, first mission, part two. I'll come back later today.) -
That was BRILLIANT! by
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Forget concrit - I have none. None, nothing, nada.
*drags Makari out from under the table* EXCELLENT! Excellent, excellent, excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT!
*dances around like a crazy monkey- then realises this*
Ahem. I am calm, sane, and dignified. I'm also holding hydrochloric acid, so watch what you say.
Don't be shy, Maraki; go ahead and dance around and be as elated as I was when my first mission got positive replies. Don't go NEAR that table. ;p
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Discovery: by
on 2008-08-21 10:34:00 UTC
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I can blush. I never used to do that.
*pokes mini-Boarder* Do you want her, or shall I? :P
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*turns very red* I'm sorry! by
on 2008-08-21 23:29:00 UTC
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I was typing rather fast... you can have her, if you want. She'll probably hate me, and she's your namesake...
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Pfft, no worries. (nm) by
on 2008-08-22 00:28:00 UTC
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Permission Given by
on 2008-08-21 08:54:00 UTC
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Unless I've had my Permission Giver status revoked and no one told me.
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Eep? by
on 2008-08-21 09:34:00 UTC
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*double take*
...I've only been hanging around about two weeks... granted, I'm familiar with the original series, the wiki, and a good number of the spin-offs, but... *flails* ...not that I'm gonna say no or anything, but...
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Congrats! (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 23:45:00 UTC
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Heh, congratulations! by
on 2008-08-21 13:42:00 UTC
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That was funny - definitely Permisson material. No surprise that TZA gave you Permission with that quality of writing. Well done! :D
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Eh, so what? You've been active enough by
on 2008-08-21 10:24:00 UTC
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The time thing is, as far as I know, just there because it's helpful to set a date, rather than just say "whenever we think you've been around enough".
Glomp away, as long as you think TZA isn't holding a weapon - or hydrogen flouride. -
*bursts out laughing* by
on 2008-08-21 07:55:00 UTC
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"4. Katrina is not allowed sulphuric acid."
I think that goes for just about any other agent who is wildly spontaneous and even slightly Sue-icidal.
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An old fic that's just begging to be MST'd. by
on 2008-08-19 14:07:00 UTC
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3238401/1/
It's an old Pokemon/Digimon crossover badfic.
PS: I've just discovered that the Urban myth about Digimon being older than Pokemon is just that-an Urban myth. See here for details:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Digimon.
Since the Urban myth has been gospel truth to me for about five years, I feel...shattered. Yes, I know it's immature, but I just can't help it. Can someone please tell me that all i'm seeing is just vandalism or false assumption? I'm just not ready to go past the denail stage yet.
Another PS: I've left fandoms for less. I hope I won't have to leave this one. It's been so important to me!
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Well... by
on 2008-08-19 21:10:00 UTC
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AS to the Pokemon/Digimon thing, I knew about Digimon before Pokemon, so I always assumed Digimon came first. Does that help? :P
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No, it dosen't. Sorry about that. by
on 2008-08-20 11:44:00 UTC
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What I really wanted was to be told that Wikipedia has just made one of it's habitual mistakes, that deeper analysis would prove the talk page and the article wrong. Yes, that's selfish; but I have a tendency to grsp at straws, even when it's futile. Sorry for being immature!
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*Dives for it* by
on 2008-08-19 14:43:00 UTC
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MINE! *Misses and falls into the stampede of Ypurs*
I've been looking for a Pokemon fic to PPC / MST. It's one of my favourite fandoms, and so is Digimon. *Sighs*.
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When will it be finished? by
on 2008-08-20 11:48:00 UTC
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It's only two chapters of OOCness and pain, so it won't take very long, right? Please reply! I'd hate to be left out cold tommorow.
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Unfortunately, not for a month or so. by
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I've got exams at school. BIG exams, as in, the Semi-final ones... *Sighs*
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Darn it! Can you at least notify me? by
on 2008-08-21 13:23:00 UTC
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Oh, and this thread is still active, so please, reply. Whenever I make a post, people always assume it died quite quickly, or don't notice it at all. That bothers me. Oh, and can we talk about the... other concerns I raised on my main post? If you're willing, of course.
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Oh, and thanks! by
on 2008-08-21 13:30:00 UTC
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I'm having a crateful of Anti-Lustin flowers(non-sentient)
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Ooh, pretty, by
on 2008-08-21 17:01:00 UTC
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Thanks for the flowers. THey work ever so well when stuffed up of the Canon Character's noses...
And what's so bad about Pokemon being older than Digimon? Oddly, I was one of the people who knew that, only because I actually watched both shows when they first came out. In fact, I have a handy-dandy little crossover of my own that deals with these two continuums, as well as others.
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No,not yet. by
on 2008-08-22 11:52:00 UTC
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Immature mode coming!
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Yes, that is what it sounds like. by
on 2008-08-22 12:02:00 UTC
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Gospel truth smashed... Beloved(but not good) plotbunnies killed... Defenses against fanbrats who can't comprehened the finer points of the Pokemon/Digimon debate iredeemably damaged... EVACUATE THE FANDOMS! EVACUATE! EVACUATE! EVACUATE! FLEE TO WARCRAFT! FLEE TO WARCRAFT!
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Yes, I do think Warcraft is better than... by
on 2008-08-22 12:07:00 UTC
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...those two fandoms. At least the Retcons and the Revalations actually work.
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Oh, and I didn't mean the shows, I meant the franchise... by
on 2008-08-22 12:14:00 UTC
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...as a whole. Sorry! Do you know any flowers or gemstones, that symbolize guilt and apology? I need to send Anti-Lustin versions to you right away. Of course, you might not want those, considering how I acterd...
Immature mode: Temporarily off.
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Oops! italics mistake! by
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*Blinks* Now that's a one-perosn convo and a half by
on 2008-08-24 03:09:00 UTC
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You really should read the Legendary Pokemon Goodfics. They aren't listed on the PPC Wiki, since we'd need a group acknowledgement, but they're Legendary by my standards. If you want, just ask. What's even more interesting is that the Authors mostly know each other, and have their stories set in the same AU world.
Haven't really taken a gander at Warcraft. I'm more Legend of Zelda, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, you know, RP Games. THey're fun. I do play one online video game called City of Heroes. Now THAT'S really fun. -
I've heard of it. (nm) by
on 2008-08-24 11:18:00 UTC
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It's okay, we all make them sometimes. (nm) by
on 2008-08-22 15:38:00 UTC
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(nm) by
on 2008-08-22 12:37:00 UTC
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*dances* Yay! More OFUR! by
on 2008-08-19 19:57:00 UTC
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I do love the problems certain female students are having.
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Wait till springtime (in several years, stupid fic-time). by
on 2008-08-20 14:29:00 UTC
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Around early March the foxes are just coming out of their breeding season, and the hares and ferrets are just coming in. That will be fun to live with.
It gets worse. We have to get in something subtle enough to be funny about the unfortunate induced instincts of the rabbit and hare students. Let's say they spend a LOT of time brushing their teeth. -
Yay! by
on 2008-08-19 18:16:00 UTC
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I was looking for an excuse to avoid important things for a while longer. Thanks. ^_~
~Neshomeh
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OT: RPG etiquette by
on 2008-08-19 19:00:00 UTC
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In regards to my last post about getting chewed for my RPG comment, the Oxford/Oxfordshire mistake was made in an RPG post my character had no involvement in. Again, I made my comment in an OOC area, not in response to the actual RPG post itself, and I can't understand why people are acting like I stepped way over some line. Was I out of line or are they being uptight? I'm new to RPG, at least the way these people are going about it.
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Re: OT: RPG etiquette by
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You're better off without them. Honestly, I've dealt with their type before, and they're just a needless source of stress. They take their little forum fiefdoms far too seriously. They have all the charm (and the cranio-rectal inversion) of a particularly uptight homeowner's association. Life is too short to deal with that kind of asshats.
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Fear not by
on 2008-08-20 07:39:00 UTC
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None of this involves the person running the RPG and she hasn't said anything so the uptight twits can go twist the sticks they have up their rear ends a little bit deeper for all I care. Besides, it might serve the RPG well that they don't like me much. It'll help them get into character. Well, most of them. ;p It's a Doctor Who RPG and I'm doing River Song. One of the twits is doing the Master and another is doing an incarnation of Rose (I forget which version). The person I 'insulted' is, IIRC, the Tenth Doctor. *shrugs* Whatever. He's not supposed to much trust River in the beginning, anyway, and she's certainly not one to care what anyone else thinks, though I'll have to pretend to care in this case. *makes gagging motions*
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Sounds pretty dumb to me. by
on 2008-08-20 00:36:00 UTC
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RP is like writing, as far as I'm concerned. People fall into the same traps as fanfic writers--it's just a role-play, it's not important, it's just for fun, so I can do whatever I want. My guess is that they took your comment as an infringement on fun and/or a personal insult and ran with it.
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It just gets better! by
on 2008-08-20 02:51:00 UTC
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I tried to go and reply to the uptight person shrieking "You mean the RP post that's not in this thread? The one she had already posted? The one that she's doing with somebody else? The one that you have nothing to do with?" and I can't get to it. At all. I'm not allowed to access it. I go to the RP player's page where I made the comment and the entry has myseriously vanished. It's been locked off to me, it seems. *rolls eyes* S'okay. They want to kick me out of their uptight little shit, whatever.
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That's wrong. by
on 2008-08-20 21:39:00 UTC
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Wow, that's not a nice RP site. This is why I like RPing on Landel's Damned. You wouldn't get chewed out for correcting that mistake there. You'd get thanked very kindly for your concern, no sarcasm at all.
Anyways, I personally would have only been polite the first time. Then I'd would have gotten all, Okay, be wrong for your entire life and look like an idiot. Not my place to help you prevent that fate. Then again that's because the only two RP sites I've been proficient on are either A) full of Mary-Sues that need smiting or B) would never have that issue.
...actually, I just can't help provoking the uptight like that. Look at me, I'm rambling. Anyways, that's an immature reaction to the situation, ESPECIALLY if you have been making a point of being nice about it. -
I didn't have the chance to take gloves off by
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I wasn't rude at all about it. The closest I came to being rude and snarky was my response to one person that I'd been to Oxford and unless there was a part of the city I'd missed, her description of nothing in sight but hills and green didn't fit Oxford, it was Oxfordshire, which Oxford is in.
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As you were entitiled to. by
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It's good that your first response was civil. That gives them a chance to be civil as well, or, as it seems, to chew you out for 'criticizing' another player. Then, by all means, chew them out. Unfortunately, it looks like they're not going to let you. Seems cowardly to me, accusing you of something then preventing you from defending yourself.
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Thanks by
on 2008-08-20 00:38:00 UTC
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I'll politely tell everyone going down my throat to sod off, then. I wanted to make sure I hadn't unknowingly broken some rule of RPG before I did.
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A bit of humour to brighten the day by
on 2008-08-20 00:26:00 UTC
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How to Successfully and Repeatedly Get Yourself into Dire Situations, a Doctor Who/Discworld one-shot crossover.
Not written by me, but something I thought should be shared with everyone here. I know that there are a few Discworld fans that hang around the Board who might appreciate it.
And if it's crap I'll just go and sit quietly in my corner with my Ouran DVDs and not pimp fics again. -
Hehe, funny. by
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I liked that, it's a bit of a change from the crud that fills most of The Pit's Harry Potter section. *is happy*
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That was really funny! *giggles* by
on 2008-08-20 10:03:00 UTC
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I can just see the Doctor in UU classes.
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Ooh, I saw that! by
on 2008-08-20 02:09:00 UTC
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I loved it. Crossovers with Donna are always awesome.
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*hugs* by
on 2008-08-20 00:32:00 UTC
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Doctor Who and Discworld. And it's good. Thank you for pointing it out. <3 I don't believe I've seen these two (successfully) crossed before.
...or maybe at all. *shrug*
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*hugs* by
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Doctor Who and Discworld. And it's good. Thank you for pointing it out.
...or maybe at all. *shrug*
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There's another one, I think by
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*checks FFN*
Ah yes, A Little Problem.
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Re: There's another one, I think by
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I quite liked that.
Discworld has some real good writers, it seems. I hadn't checked out any fanfic of the series.
P.S. I have seen all of ONE Doctor Who episode in my life, and it was 'Blink' (i.e., the one where the honorable Doctor is hardly a part of the proceedings), yet I could picture all the characters clearly and tell that they were in-character. Thanks, Livejournal. -
That episode terrified me. by
on 2008-08-20 23:29:00 UTC
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I couldn't go anywhere in my flat without my back to the wall for days.
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Me, too. by
on 2008-08-20 23:51:00 UTC
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And now the writer is in charge of Doctor Who. What horrors now await us?
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oh, but... by
on 2008-08-21 14:48:00 UTC
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Whatever horrors they are, you just know they'll be worth it. Especially since with Moffat we won't have to be putting up with any more canon!Sues.
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Excellent. by
on 2008-08-20 15:09:00 UTC
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That was possibly even better than the other one. Ah, the joys of goodfic...
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That... by
on 2008-08-20 01:24:00 UTC
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...was quite entertaining. : ) Actually made me laugh out loud, which is quite a feat.
...*surreptitious glances from side to side* I won't tell if you don't.
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My Immortal page on PPC Wiki by
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I wrote a page for the (sadly) legendary My Immortal for the Wiki. I'm not sure if it fits all the guidelines, though, so I'm pointing it out for people to edit it.
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That's real? by
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Someone actually wrote that story? I was sort of hoping it was just a myth PPCers tell one another in lieu of ghost stories.
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Thank you! by
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Now I don't have to go read the fic that so many people have been talking about recently. Although I might end up reading it anyway out of sheer
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Good God! by
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It has twelve thousand reviews? That's gone up by six thousand since the last time I saw it. What the hell happened? Did it eat the fans of another fandom or something?
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Question/Potential Claim by
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Has any of David Gonterman's work been done by the PPC before? Nothing shows up on the Wiki search for the name "Gonterman". Anyway, if his stories haven't been done before (would really, really surprise me... the man is "legendary"), I'd like to claim the "Davey Crockett" trilogy of Power Rangers/Sonic the Hedgehog/Sailor Moon/everything under the sun crossover for a story. I tried to find something about the due process of writing for this website, but there didn't seem to be any easily accessible page. Any input would be appreciated.
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for clarification by
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1) David Gonterman is a badfic author? 'cause the way your question was frased I first thought he was a canon author and I've never heard the name. Which probably means that he is not that legendary. But as a badficcer he could be legendary in his fandom. or fandoms as seems to be the case.
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More by
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He's more infamous for his original comics (which borrow so heavily from everything else that they may as well just be fanfiction), but he started out by writing fanfiction. Since this was circa 1995-1997 or so and he has since abandoned fanfiction, it's not too hard to see why he'd become a bit obscure (in fact, it's more likely that everybody who reads these stories today do so because they found him through one of his great many webcomics). Anyway, his stories have a certain... je-ne-sais-quoi to them. They're highly disjointed, poorly structured, have no respect whatsoever for any canon they draw from, tenuous continuity, and everything pretty much revolves around his blatant self-insert author avatar of David "Davey Crockett" Kintobor. Grim sights, to be sure. Anyway, "The Piasa Bird" can be found at the first link (which has oh-so-subtle folder directories), with "Blood and Metal" and "Sailor Moon: American Kitsune" at the second link:
http://www.tuxedojack.com/godawful/nauseating/gonterman/gonterman-Piasa.txt
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I feel a disturbance in the hyperlink... by
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Like a million souls just cried out in agony, and were suddenly silence.
From what you've said, I'm afraid to click the links. We warn people about Legendary Badfic, is this its comic book equivelant? -
Details by
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It's regular text. Anyway, it is legendary, but not really as offensive as most entries on that sordid list. It's more offensive for its hateful themes than for openly disgusting content. I'll write out the fair warnings for the really offensive parts in PG-rated descriptions:
1) There's a racist undertone throughout all three of them against African Americans. The basis for the plot is that David "Davey Crockett" Kintobor lost his arm in a racial riot. It generally portrays African Americans as mindless monsters compared to the Mighty Whitey of Davey. At least it's mercifully limited to backstory after The Piasa Bird.
2) More offensive are the homophobic overtones in the last few chapters of Sailor Moon: American Kitsune. Every single offensive slur directed against homosexuals that one can think of gets used as Davey kills an openly homosexual Sailor Moon villain in graphic detail. Afterwards, Davey gives a speech on the evils of homosexuality and how it ruined his live to be unfairly associated with it in high school. The Sailor Senshi than weep after it, completely agreeing with the incredibly hateful viewpoints. This chapter pretty much banished Gonterman from the online Sailor Moon community forever. Mentioning him on a Sailor Moon forum is -still- guaranteed to send the community up in arms even after 12 years. That's how offensive it was.
3) As if racism and homophobia wasn't bad enough, there's also a certain amount of sexism. His portrayal of the Sailor Senshi is as a completely incompetent pack of fawning fangirls that fight each other for a chance to claim Davey as their own (yeah, certainly no wish fulfillment going on here...).
4) And as a hat trick to all this, Gonterman also rewrote Usagi/Serena's backstory just to make her Davey's sister. By itself, it wouldn't be that bad (it's not like there's any shortage of noncanon siblings to canon characters out there), but Gonterman gave her the most truly demeaning origin possible (I won't describe it because the simple description of it probably count as NC-17 rated for making one want to bash their head against a concrete wall). As if just trying to go further, it both turns their earlier relationship into incest (actually... the implied sex scene is also really disturbing as well) but they still decide to tentatively go forward with the relationship anyway. And it's not even like Gonterman just forgot about the plot detail like he's prone to doing. No, he calls attention to it each time they indulge in flirting with each other (at least there isn't any more implied sex) and gives Usagi the attitude that Davey is just too good a catch to give up even if it turns out that they're siblings. I can't make stuff like this up even if I tried.
Actually... scratch my earlier statement about it not being so offensive. It's not safe for sanity whatsoever. What makes it extra creepy is that this is blatant wish fulfillment for Gonterman (he didn't even bother to come up with a terribly creative cipher for his self-insert), but his wishes include the gory death of homosexuals, the banishment of African Americans, and for every woman to be a fawning doormat to him. And he uses a bunch of TV shows intended for young children to facilitate this (imagine the surprise of an 11 year old girl browsing for Sailor Moon stories and happening upon this... abomination). Yeah... this stuff is definitely a shoe-in for the Legendary Badfic list. -
Yeeees, it does look quite horrific... by
on 2008-08-21 21:47:00 UTC
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...although I don't know any of the continuua he's mucked with.
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That's horrible. by
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Yeah, from your description it sounds Legendary Badfic material. That's just...ugh. I hate it when people are so narrow-minded.
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*Looks at his faces imprint in the desk* Yeah, no comment... (nm by
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Minis! by
on 2008-08-20 20:46:00 UTC
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mini-Reapers:
K-89, Jaime McCrimmon
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Lumia, An Solo
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Oh yeah? I found some, too! (mostly my own!) by
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Mini-Aragogs:
Heromoine
Mini-Balrogs:
Ewoyn, Ithillien
Mini-Dragons:
Locy, Telemarine, Telamrine, Car Parvel
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Discovered a few more minis... by
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I see...Ewoyn with a tilde over the E! (don't know how to do this on the Board...)
And Bilibo and Mc Gongall!
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Those mini-Balrogs sound familiar... by
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Aha! Ewoyn is on the list of adopted minis! She was kidnapped from her owner, Andy. If you send her to me I can send her home.
Ithillien appears to be a new one... I can't find any records of him. I'm sure he'd get on well here at the Adoption Centre, unless you'd like to to adopt him. If not, send him over with Ewoyn. -
Found another mini-Balrog: Frogo! (nm) by
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Am now on the hunt for Ewoyn. by
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Ahhhh...found Ewoyn lurking around my ancient LotR and HP fics. I'm glad I've never posted those. I might have ended up getting put on the Legendary Badfic list. Or PPC'd at least.
I don't mind taking care of Ithillien and Mara. I found him with Ewoyn, by the way, snuggling up in the corner and earning dirty looks from an old OC who is undoubtedly a Mary Sue. Like the whole magic staff with a blue crystal doesn't give it away...
*looks at minis* Ewoyn! Don't DO that! Now I'll need Bleeprin to get rid of the images! Come on Ewoyn, we're going to Aunty Cassie, she'll send you home...what's that? Oh...that way, huh?
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Ok, thank you. You're more than welcome to adopt Ithillien. by
on 2008-08-22 08:56:00 UTC
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It's not like we're going to run out of mini-Balrogs to adopt.
*hears a knock at the door*
Ah, hello Ewoyn. Now, let's get you fed and on your way home...
*aside to Lily* I think I'll handle it from here, in case she gets it into her head to sneak back after you. Thanks for looking after her. -
No prob. I've always wanted a pet. (nm) by
on 2008-08-22 17:42:00 UTC
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Agents don't get minis last I checked. (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 20:32:00 UTC
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I know that. I was just pointing it out. by
on 2008-08-21 21:53:00 UTC
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It would be funny to have mini-Agents running all over the place, though.
Oh and...is Acacia's last name Byrd or Bird? I've seen it spelled both ways in the TOS. -
Can I take Tim Riddle? by
on 2008-08-20 21:19:00 UTC
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Michel and Rouge need a Mini.
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You could adopt a mini-Balrog. by
on 2008-08-20 23:34:00 UTC
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I run the mini-Balrog Adoptions List, and I have 346 of them to keep fed and entertained. Taking one or two off my hands would be appreciated.
The list can be found here: http://www.freewebs.com/cassie5squared/anunofficiallist.htm
Email me at cassie.dramateacher at yahoo dot co dot uk if you want to adopt one. -
Oh, have you taken over from Miss Cam? (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 10:01:00 UTC
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She wasn't doing adoptions any more... by
on 2008-08-21 10:21:00 UTC
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...so I contacted her and offered to take over. The thought of all those homeless mini-Balrogs with nobody to take care of them just tugged at my heartstrings. :)
So now I take care of the whole gang. Fortunately, I get donations from kind PPCers to keep them fed, particularly Sue-meat, which is good because the price of bacon is skyrocketing.
On that note, if anyone has some Sue carcasses they need to get rid of, chuck them my way. -
Ahhhhh, question by
on 2008-08-21 20:15:00 UTC
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Would Stu meat do as well?
Since well, DRake migth have a left over, well, Kitten boy thingie left over. Let's jstu say very high in cuteness. -
When I said Sue... by
on 2008-08-21 23:04:00 UTC
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I meant badfic characters in general. I'm not sure if the minis have tried Stu, but I'm certainly willing to offer it to them and see what they think.
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Woudl they eat angsty kitten person pet thingie stu> I think after one sugary induced thing, naomi will cut drake off any future food.
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Like I said, I can always offer and see what they think. (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 23:15:00 UTC
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yuh by
on 2008-08-21 23:44:00 UTC
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Offers up some honeyed catboy remains
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Thank you very much! (nm) by
on 2008-08-22 08:50:00 UTC
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*Raises hand* Got some here by
on 2008-08-21 11:59:00 UTC
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*Opens a plothole to a large, Quidditch-pitch sized room full of PokeMorph!Sues.
You said they loved these almost as much as bacon, so I've been stocking up. -
Oh, wow, thanks! by
on 2008-08-21 12:06:00 UTC
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They do love these. *lets the minis into the room* No arguing, you lot, there're more than enough!
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Oo! I want one... logging into email... (nm) by
on 2008-08-20 23:48:00 UTC
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I sent an email, but just in case... by
on 2008-08-21 10:25:00 UTC
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I'd like "Rosa".
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Email received. by
on 2008-08-21 10:41:00 UTC
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Rosa set off a while back. She seemed quite happy. I think she was getting a little fed up with some of the Saruman-minis teasing her about how little screen time her namesake got.
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Aw, poor thing! *huggles* (nm) by
on 2008-08-21 23:41:00 UTC
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Go ahead, help yourself. by
on 2008-08-20 21:28:00 UTC
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I find them here and there.